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"*jumps into the shark pool* My 50 Favorite Albums Of 2000-2009"


  

          

1. Radiohead - Kid A (2000)
It's been over nine years. Frankly, I'm all talked out and have been for some time. I didn't even put up a fight when my cousin dismissed it out of hand recently, having only heard it once, years ago. However, anyone reading this has probably heard Kid A already and formed their own opinion long ago, so what more could I add that hasn't been said too many times before?



2. Bj鰎k - Vespertine (2001)
It's her IDM album, but it's also her songwriting album. Vespertine showed me how glitchy electronics could be warm, but harps, strings, and one of the most gifted and talented singers of all time help make this an immaculate listen. I think this is one of the most underrated albums of the decade and in her vast, impressive discography.



3. Aphex Twin - Drukqs (2001)
Although not a cohesive listen in the traditional sense, to take in Drukqs is to go on a wild ride through the mad genius of Richard D. James. Here, he revisits his classic techno of the early to mid '90s (setting the stage for his return to acid in the mid to late '00s) but aided by every production skill and compositional strength he's developed since then. As if that were not enough, the modern day ambient master let's us hear his beautiful, Erik Satie-inspired piano pieces and a series of avant-garde acoustic workouts and freakouts. Never has one album offered so much and received so little appreciation and understanding in return. No wonder Aphex Twin stopped making albums.



4. Hood - Cold House (2001)
This album will always be dear to me because it helped get me through a difficult time. It also serves as an awesome example of the promotional power of the mp3, as I'd never heard Hood until browsing Audiogalaxy (R.I.P.) when they were a featured artist with three legal downloads from this album. I was quickly taken by Hood's fragile, gorgeous, melancholic sound, and today I own 12 of their discs. In an ideal world, this naturally flowing, genre-blending album would get at least half of the acclaim heaped on Kid A.



5. dead prez - lets get free (2000)
This is quite simply one of if not the most inspiring album I've ever heard. Listening to this gets me charged every time. I may not agree with every unabashed, radical political stance espoused by M-1 and Stic.Man, but how can anyone disagree with messages like "Be Healthy" and "Discipline makes things easier"? Besides the raw, jaw-droppingly brilliant, poetically expressed lyrical content, the album is musically amazing. Few emcees have ever sounded this consistently sharp, focused, and hungry, and every beat knocks and sounds beautiful at the same time. The fact that dead prez had an active role in producing the album makes it all the more special.



6. Deltron 3030 - Deltron 3030 (2000)
This album is just a lot of fun, even if Dan The Automator's production makes an album set far into the future sound dated. Del Tha Funkee Homosapien was seriously in the zone writing and recording this album.



7. A Perfect Circle - Mer De Noms (2000)
I don't think it's fair or accurate to call anything above a rock album, so that makes this debut release by Maynard James Keenan's side-project the best rock album of the decade and them the best new rock group, at least for my tastes. I love how their songs completely rock but are full of nuances and subtleties. The arrangements are great, and the production is perfect. Rock needs more of this.



8. Deftones - White Pony (2000)
The production may be a little cold on this album, but it works. The songs rock hard but sound delicate, too. There isn't a bad song on the initial release, which is what I have and is the intended tracklisting.



9. Justin Timberlake - FutureSex/LoveSounds (2006)
If you'd told me any time before 2006 that I'd be putting a singer from *NSYNC and former Mickey Mouse Club member ahead of most of my favorite artists in my top albums of the decade list, I'd have never believed you. Have you listened to this album though? It's incredible. Very rarely do I listen to an album and just envy the music the whole time as if I wish I'd made it, but this is one of those. No longer an industry puppet, Justin grew up (perhaps trying a little too hard in the process) and, with the able assistance of Timbaland and Danja at the height of their pop prowess, created a masterpiece.



10. Madvillain - Madvillainy (2004)
Rarely do dream combos work out as well in reality as they do in theory, but MF Doom and Madlib even managed to exceed expectations. It may not be Doom at his deepest or 'Lib at his most experimental, but it's a hell of an album. Here's to the next.



11. Autechre - Confield (2001)
The musical equivalent to every frenetic, weird, crazy thought I've had, this is still the most mindblowing album I've ever heard. I've learned this is also the worst place for newcomers to Autechre to start.



12. Prefuse 73 - One Word Extinguisher (2003)
This was one of two discs that served as the road soundtrack to the worst summer of my life (so far!). I loved how catchy, visceral, and busy this album sounded, which was just what I needed. I thought Prefuse was cool from his first album, but a couple tracks aside it was just another glitch-hop album to me, so I didn't have high expectations for this album. I was blown away by the tremendous growth in production, from the sinewy synths to the ambient textures (including vocals) to the assortment of other instruments and growing supporting cast. This album introduced me to the music of Diverse, Dabrye, Daedelus, and Tommy Guerrero, but Prefuse is the star of the show here. At the time it seemed like the perfect melding of hip-hop and IDM, my two favorite genres then (and perhaps still). To this day, I still consider One Word Extinguisher Prefuse's magnum opus.



13. Radiohead - In Rainbows (2007/2008)
I had a long history with this album before I ever played it, but it's really not that interesting to recap, especially now. Suffice it to say that I'd heard nearly every song on here in its live incarnation long before the album was released and didn't expect much based on what I found to be second rate material compared to the songs they toured before the release of their three previous albums. I think it speaks to the power of an even, cohesive-sounding album that In Rainbows is as good as it is. In the right order, these songs complement each other flawlessly, and although I find the high points to be higher on Amnesiac and Hail To The Thief and the production of those albums to be more "interesting," this is truly a great, often addictive listen.



14. Saul Williams - Saul Williams (2004)
It was really difficult to rank Saul's three albums from this decade. Even his Rick Rubin-produced debut that sat on the shelf for two or three years before seeing a poorly promoted release is great. The margin between Saul Williams and the next album is paper thin, but I give self-titled the edge because the music, nearly all of it self-produced, seems to fit Saul a little better, which makes sense as some of NiggyTardust! is built on scraps from unreleased Nine Inch Nails material. Regardless, listening to him grow as a musical artist from Amethyst Rock Star to Saul Williams is remarkable. Here are fully fleshed-out, seriously heavy compositions sung more often than spoken or rapped, so it feels more organic than the spoken word over rap-rock and drum & bass debut.



15. Saul Williams - The Inevitable Rise And Liberation Of NiggyTardust! (2007/2008)
Saul's rap Ziggy Stardust concept album produced by Trent Reznor hits all the right notes. Even more so than Saul Williams, NiggyTardust! signaled the arrival of a fully matured artist within the realm of music (as opposed to all those other creative arts Saul has mastered or at least dabbled in). Some of it does sound like NIN with another vocalist, but it also sounds global yet completely personal. Obviously the industrial elements from the previous album are pushed even further to the forefront here, but the punk and hip-hop remain intact, and the sonic palate is greatly expanded, including everything from screw to gorgeous, credible ballads. I was down in front for three shows supporting this album, all spectacular.



16. Cannibal Ox - The Cold Vein (2001)
Dark, scary, depressing, and brilliant, I was a little late to Can Ox's unique brand of cerebral street rap, coming to it after falling in love with the production on El-P's Fantastic Damage. The music on The Cold Vein is just as tense if not more so, but the more accessible and adept yet creative and experimental flows and lyrics anchor the album. One of the other biggest disappointments of the decade in music is the revelation of just how unlikely it is that Vast Aire, Vordul Mega, and El-P will ever regroup for a sequel.



17. Outkast - Stankonia (2000)
Even for me, it's easy to take this album for granted because its singles are so deeply ingrained into popular culture and the disc itself is full of so many songs and interludes, but it's important to remember that this is Outkast still at their creative zenith, making it look so easy trading smooth, rapid-paced rhymes and taking influence from all over, something we haven't truly gotten again from them in the decade since. The title for their planned full reunion album, The Hard 10, has taken on a new meaning.



18. Nine Inch Nails - Year Zero (2007)
Trent Reznor's allegorical, politically dystopian, cyberpunk concept album consists of really catchy songs that formulaically devolve into glorious noise. It loses points for some generic hard rock-isms, but Trent delivers the goods for the most part, making this an exciting listen complete with some career highlights like "Vessel" and "In This Twilight." The remix album is great, too, and you can remix every song on Year Zero with the multitracks posted online and in a DVD-ROM accompanying Y34RZ3R0R3M1X3D, further defining the concept of a DIY laptop musician future come reality.



19. N*E*R*D - In Search Of... (2001/2002)
The Neptunes at their peak stretched out and created a fun, catchy album with a couple really beautiful heartfelt, serious songs. I had the European and promo release as a download in 2001, but the album didn't really hit me until later in the year when they posted a stream on their official site of what would be released to the U.S. in 2002. I much prefer this live instrumentation version, but that's a debate that has been ongoing among fans ever since.


20. Outkast - Speakerboxxx/The Love Below (2003)
Listening now I remember why I recommended this double album to everybody back then. While Andre 3000 experimented (and I say succeeded admirably) on his disc with singing, Big Boi delivered on what he does best, zany, funky, but street-credible dirty south rap. Between the two discs there are so many winners, yet this appears to be a Diamond-certified album that is actually underrated, at least among hip-hop heads.



21. Common - Like Water For Chocolate (2000)
This is another close call. I don't love this album as much as I did at the beginning of the decade, but I still find it one of the best rap albums I know, and I really do know every song on here very well. This is the album where Common joined up with The Roots Crew and Jay Dee, officially the Soulquarians, and it sounds like the best of all three worlds. It's also the last album where Com wasn't P.C. Note the homophobia on album highlight "Dooinit" and references to "bitches" peppered throughout the album. Nonetheless, Like Water For Chocolate probably has Common's most tolerable musical love letters to women, especially the breakout single, and still classic, "The Light."



22. Common - Electric Circus (2002)
For my tastes, I prefer Electric Circus these days. I give LWFC the edge lyrically, but the weird, beautiful, seriously bumpin' (when's the last time you heard that? ha) electronic/hip-hop/soul music of EC appeals to me more. Despite what some say, I think Com spits hard on this album, too. I feel one of the most regrettable things in this decade in music was Com's audience convincing him that he was too different on this album, that it sucked, that he dressed weird. They got their wish because he's never been the same since, unfortunately.



23. Mogwai - Rock Action (2001)
A lush, beautiful album, and their last where I can remember the music just by the track titles. It is a tad short, but maybe it's just right. It's a bit of a departure not only in length, but also in content, as "You Don't Know Jesus" is the only song that rocks long and hard (pause?) like so many highlights on their first two studio albums, but I wouldn't trade "Sine Wave" or "2 Rights Make 1 Wrong."



24. Boards Of Canada - Geogaddi (2002)
I love the paranoid effect derived from the obscure vocal samples, sinewy synths, and ambient textures married with insistent drums. The track titles and album artwork only add to the mythos. This freaky, psychedelic album has been imitated but never duplicated.



25. El-P - I'll Sleep When You're Dead (2007)
The hip-hop auteur grew in the many years between proper solo albums into a better emcee and even more formidable producer in the traditional sense, here drafting The Mars Volta, Cat Power, and Trent Reznor in addition to the usual help from his Definitive Jux roster. Every song here hits hard on some level emotionally and musically.



26. Nine Inch Nails - With Teeth (2005)
Although this wasn't another masterpiece that announced the triumphant return of Trent Reznor, I think this album is underrated. A lot of the quirks on past albums and Year Zero are replaced here by sludgy or jagged guitar riffs and pummeling drums, but it's a great performance.



27. Slum Village - Fantastic, Vol. 2 (2000)
This is a very fun hip-hop album with dope beats and catchy raps. The End.



28. Portishead - Third (2008)
This was my favorite album of 2008. I consider it nearly as good as the first two albums but in a completely different way. With Portishead having spent so much time away from music, no reasonable person could expect them to sound the same as they did before, back when trip-hop was still alive, and I'm glad they didn't try to act like nothing happened, either to their band or the Bristol scene. What they give us instead on Third is their rock album (some may feel more comfortable seeing "kraut" or "psychedelic" prefixed to that, but it's rock nonetheless). The feel is thus different but familiar. Beth Gibbons still sounds fragile, lost, and distraught but resolute, and the music is still heavy and serious, except for the delightful breather on the album, "Deep Water," which always reminds me of Steve Martin's The Jerk. The band is in top form, and I am so pleased that more new material is on the way this year.



29. J-Live - All Of The Above (2002)
Perhaps too sincere for some, All Of The Above is nevertheless a tutorial on great hip-hop. J-Live has a sporty flow and clearly has fun kicking nonstop substance and creative concepts over serviceable beats. It's refreshing to hear someone put so much time and effort into his craft.



30. El-P - Fantastic Damage (2002)
This is the second, darker half of the soundtrack to the worst summer of my life and is a natural accompaniment to Prefuse 73's One Word Extinguisher as it, too, is a hybrid of hip-hop boom bap and electronics. This album is harder and uglier, however, in the most beautiful possible way, from the harsh sound of the beats to the subject matter of the songs. Very few albums are this well produced either.



31. Massive Attack - 100th Window (2003)
Nowhere near as good as Mezzanine, nowhere near as bad as many say. The intensity and paranoia here are aided by glitchy, icy electronics. This album is a heavy listen, not meant for dinner parties. My favorites are the songs where 3D sings lead.



32. J Dilla - Donuts (2006)
Despite how easy it plays, this album can be difficult to get a handle on intellectually if you love hip-hop and other music because of the length and treatment of the samples used. Is this technically a megamix? Are these even beats? These were among my first questions when I got into the album. As I listened, new questions arose. Is this Dilla's best album? Is this going to be a new trend in hip-hop? That last question was quickly answered in a resounding yes!, but the rest isn't so clear. I know this reads like the introductory paragraph of the pamphlet handed out at gatherings of the Cult of J Dilla, but just listen to the album. Closely. It has a message it speaks to you, if you listen.



33. Quasimoto - The Further Adventures Of Lord Quas (2005)
This album is mad. It's musically all over the place and full of so many ideas it can be hard to keep up. A lot of people don't like the funny voice affected by Madlib as the character Quasimoto, but I love it both musically and conceptually. I think the voice and the Melvin Van Peebles samples fit the music perfectly, too, so much so that I've never wanted to hear the instrumental versions of either album.



34. Jay-Z - The Blueprint (2001)
This is big budget, blockbuster rap in every sense. Jay-Z became a superstar here, but so did Kanye West and Just Blaze. This album has long reached Kid A levels of overdiscussion and overpraise, however.



35. Kanye West - Late Registration (2005)
I've always found this album to be complete and musically masterful. Time has shown this to be the last time Kanye rapped for a whole album with substance and conviction, and although he's grown as a producer and composer since, nothing has sounded this fleshed out (thank Jon Brion).



36. Radiohead - Amnesiac (2001)
With this following so quickly behind Kid A and consisting of songs recorded at the same time, it's a little too easy to dismiss Amnesiac. I don't advise it, as the highlights on this album are just as good as those on Kid A. I do find the "electronica" to be a little overcooked here, to the point of ruining what was their best new song in their live set in years, "I Might Be Wrong," a kink they finally worked out on In Rainbows. The piano, strings, and horns that fill many of the songs here help make them some of Radiohead's finest moments.



37. The Roots - Game Theory (2006)
On their Def Jam debut, The Roots trade their feel-good vibes for sad times and tension, crafting a claustrophobic, dark, gritty masterpiece that stands among their best work.



38. The Roots - Phrenology (2002)
This is the third or fourth Roots album I heard and owned, but it's the first one I learned front to back and still some of their most creative work. I'd love to hear the Black Thought solo album, Masterpiece Theatre, that half of this album was versioned from. As diverse and well-produced as the music is, BT's solid command of the mic and songwriting development arguably make him the high point of the album, the group's first without Malik B sharing mic time (although he is the subject of the experimental album highlight "Water").



39. D'Angelo - Voodoo (2000)
If Burial isn't ambient r&b, this is. I've always been attracted to the creeping tones of this album and how pretty melodies, simple but often profound lyrics, and even the funk would cut through the murk. This album is so good I can almost forgive D'Angelo for not releasing another one after.



40. Blackalicious - Blazing Arrow (2002)
This may have had too many hands in it, but I still find it a highly accomplished work and a rewarding listen. Gab has the same fun but substantive and conceptual lyrical content and dexterous delivery as J-Live but doesn't come across quite as naturally. Still, if you can tolerate a little geekiness and playful corniness in your rap music, this album was the best of its kind in the decade.



41. Hood - Outside Closer (2005)
There really isn't a noticeable dropoff in the quality of the music and lyrics between Cold House and this album. I think that, other than the two singles, the songs here are a little less catchy. If Cold House hinted at any hope for the future, it isn't really found here, as this is a sobering listen, with "Closure" being perhaps the most emotionally devastating song I've ever heard. This album isn't for everyone, but I find it a very rewarding listen. It's also another album that shows the similarities between jazz and post-rock.



42. Herbert - Bodily Functions (2001)
This album is highly accomplished musically and contains some of the most sophisticated and fully formed songwriting in the electronic music genre. That, in addition to live instrumentation, so much of this album consists of samples actually sourced from the human body is remarkable. Matthew Herbert and his jazz singer wife Dani Siciliano make a wonderful team.



43. Reflection Eternal (Talib Kweli & Hi-Tek) - Train Of Thought (2000)
I think this is Talib Kweli and Hi-Tek at their individual best, and joining forces they created a classic with serious bars and serious bass. The mournful tone found in many of the songs adds even greater depth and resonance.



44. The Notwist - Neon Golden (2002/2003)
I guess I like this album in the same way other people like The Postal Service, but I find The Notwist's beautiful and quirky brand of "indie electronic" music to have a lot more depth and lasting appeal.



45. The Dandy Warhols - Thirteen Tales From Urban Bohemia (2000)
This is the shoegaze album of the decade as far as I'm concerned. Every song on here is good if not excellent.



46. Talib Kweli - Quality (2002)
Talib Kweli shocked the underground by releasing his first solo album without any assistance from Hi-Tek and with actually measurable swag. I've always loved this album. The songs are fun and meaningful. It's no mystery why Kwe broke through with this album and "Get By" in particular.



47. Burial - Untrue (2007)
Judging by my list so far, you'd never know dubstep ever happened, and Burial is probably the least dubstep-sounding artist associated with that movement, which is perhaps why I love him and this album so. Every song here is basically a stolen r&b a cappella over top of ambient music with a percussion set consisting of samples of a wood block, an aerosol can, a gun cock, and bullet shells hitting the floor. Burial's music also sounds like there's a room playing drum & bass and another playing r&b and you're in a room in-between. Or maybe it's just really good ambient UK garage. That's the thing with Burial, he's intriguing and hard to classify.



48. Air - Talkie Walkie (2004)
It's an album full of really pretty, catchy songs, some light, some serious. There's probably more variety in mood and instrumentation on this than any other Air album.



49. Squarepusher - Go Plastic (2001)
It's really good Squarepusher, easily some of his best work, a solid album, and fun to listen to. It hurt to exclude Ultravisitor, as that is a more interesting album, but consistency and cohesiveness made the difference.



50. Daft Punk - Discovery (2001)
I listened to this album a lot, and you probably did, too.



Personally, I have a hard time taking seriously album recommendations from people who don't put their money where their mouth is (or their key-tappin' fingers, as the case may be). If you're like me, you should know that I bought every single one of these albums.

  

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nice list, not too many surprises
Jan 01st 2010
1
RE: nice list, not too many surprises
Jan 02nd 2010
2
      bodily functions is the shit.
Jan 02nd 2010
4
           pun?
Jan 02nd 2010
5
sucks to be your ipod/sony walkman/zune for 2000-2009
Jan 02nd 2010
3
i saw that coming
Jan 02nd 2010
6
don't mind that hate fam
Jan 02nd 2010
20
      i don't mind
Jan 02nd 2010
22
      No hate, I just don't listen to the same shit he does
Jan 02nd 2010
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           RE: No hate, I just don't listen to the same shit he does
Jan 02nd 2010
24
           Like a good, robust cabernet
Apr 20th 2011
126
you can't be serious
Jan 02nd 2010
7
You just put me on to Hood's "Cold House"...
Jan 03rd 2010
49
RE: You just put me on to Hood's "Cold House"...
Jan 03rd 2010
51
      RE: You just put me on to Hood's "Cold House"...
Jan 03rd 2010
53
           Grand_Styles assuming i'm dan_ackryte and that hood was my band
Jan 03rd 2010
55
you must be allergic to good music.
Feb 17th 2010
85
great list and rationale
Jan 02nd 2010
8
wow
Jan 02nd 2010
9
      i'm the opposite
Jan 02nd 2010
10
           RE: i'm the opposite
Jan 02nd 2010
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RE: Thanks for posting.
Jan 02nd 2010
12
it's a fantastic post.
Jan 02nd 2010
13
RE: Dude.
Jan 02nd 2010
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RE: Thanks for posting.
Jan 02nd 2010
15
50. Daft Punk - Discovery (2001)
Jan 02nd 2010
16
cool
Jan 02nd 2010
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RE: cool
Jan 02nd 2010
19
I'm actually appaled by how many people leave Rising Down off lists.
Jan 02nd 2010
18
noted
Jan 02nd 2010
21
      Yeah, I hear you on it not being as focused and fluid as GT.
Jan 02nd 2010
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           RE: Yeah, I hear you on it not being as focused and fluid as GT.
Jan 03rd 2010
35
very genuine, ableit slightly lacking list
Jan 02nd 2010
25
jesus.
Jan 02nd 2010
26
Okay, I'm now convinced this little migraine isn't real...alias?
Jan 02nd 2010
30
RE: Yeah, that was some asshole shit, Andy.
Jan 02nd 2010
31
I'm not saying it wasn't a good read, I'm just saying that
Jan 03rd 2010
33
      if you have no beef w/ it, i'll let it go
Jan 03rd 2010
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      RE: I'm not saying it wasn't a good read, I'm just saying that
Jan 03rd 2010
38
      it's HIS list tho.
Jan 03rd 2010
45
i have no qualms with this criticism.
Jan 03rd 2010
37
      exactly man!!
Jan 03rd 2010
48
what did you think about the nina sample in 'get by?'
Jan 02nd 2010
27
RE: what did you think about the nina sample in 'get by?'
Jan 03rd 2010
39
      oh, that was you.
Jan 03rd 2010
42
Oh HELL no, fam!
Jan 02nd 2010
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RE: Oh HELL no, fam!
Jan 03rd 2010
40
I'm thinking about doing a Top 5 albums for every year this decade.
Jan 02nd 2010
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RE: I'm thinking about doing a Top 5 albums for every year this decade.
Jan 03rd 2010
41
great read/voodoo should have been higher on your list
Jan 03rd 2010
34
RE: great read/voodoo should have been higher on your list
Jan 03rd 2010
43
      hey, bit of a post jack, but i got some Thrice you'll like
Jan 03rd 2010
44
           RE: hey, bit of a post jack, but i got some Thrice you'll like
Jan 03rd 2010
50
two thumbs up!
Jan 03rd 2010
46
great list. im gonna beef with discovery though
Jan 03rd 2010
47
the main factor in its placement was longevity, which is personal.
Jan 03rd 2010
52
RE: *jumps into the shark pool* My 50 Favorite Albums Of 2000-2009
Jan 03rd 2010
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RE: *jumps into the shark pool* My 50 Favorite Albums Of 2000-2009
Jan 03rd 2010
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RE: Hood
Mar 06th 2010
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RE: shoegaze
Feb 17th 2010
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RE: *jumps into the shark pool* My 50 Favorite Albums Of 2000-2009
Jan 05th 2010
57
Considering the list consists of albums from early in the decade
Jan 05th 2010
58
or... in howisya's eye's they've already proven their longevity n/m
Jan 05th 2010
59
      Well in that case, shouldn't the list be compiled in a few years?
Jan 05th 2010
60
      RE: Well in that case, shouldn't the list be compiled in a few years?
Jan 05th 2010
63
           Naw, I'm not knocking the effort
Jan 05th 2010
64
                this is the kind of critique i appreciate.
Jan 05th 2010
66
      it's mostly ^this^
Jan 05th 2010
62
           dyou think its also cos there were more 'consensus' albums back then
Jan 06th 2010
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                it may have played a part
Jan 06th 2010
77
How did you go about making this list? (others can answer, btw)
Jan 05th 2010
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see reply 63
Jan 05th 2010
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      i thought about doing a list.
Jan 05th 2010
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      RE: see reply 63
Jan 05th 2010
69
definately a good list
Jan 05th 2010
67
It's about 5 albums short of being a 00-05 list
Jan 05th 2010
70
here's my list...
Jan 06th 2010
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RE: here's my list...
Jan 06th 2010
74
Great great greaaaat post
Jan 06th 2010
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RE: Great great greaaaat post
Jan 06th 2010
73
i couldnt even begin one of these lists but good choices
Jan 06th 2010
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My 50
Jan 06th 2010
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alphabetical?
Jan 06th 2010
79
solid list
Feb 17th 2010
81
Amazin phase your days your hazy ways my Blazing Arrow
Feb 17th 2010
82
you got about half of the LPs on my non-existant list
Feb 17th 2010
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RE: you got about half of the LPs on my non-existant list
Feb 17th 2010
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      RE: you got about half of the LPs on my non-existant list
Feb 17th 2010
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           RE: you got about half of the LPs on my non-existant list
Feb 17th 2010
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i heart this list.
Feb 18th 2010
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someone one-upped my burial description
Mar 06th 2010
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upon second look
Mar 06th 2010
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RE: upon second look
Mar 06th 2010
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      hmmm, i think you kind of proved what i was thinking.
Mar 06th 2010
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           RE: hmmm, i think you kind of proved what i was thinking.
Mar 06th 2010
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good list, how great was the beginning of that decade
Mar 06th 2010
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it was an incredible time
Mar 06th 2010
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NOW it's obvious
Mar 06th 2010
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Elliott Smith - Figure 8 should be in there somewhere
Jun 22nd 2010
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Not enough Kanye on this list
Jun 22nd 2010
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RE: Not enough Kanye on this list
Sep 12th 2010
100
if i made my list, these might make it
Sep 12th 2010
101
Deadringer
Sep 12th 2010
102
i dig it...
Sep 13th 2010
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RE: i dig it...
Sep 13th 2010
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      Why's that? Which one are you talking about?
Sep 13th 2010
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      'i am shelby lynne'
Sep 13th 2010
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           Well, that album barely makes the 2000 mark.
Sep 13th 2010
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                RE: Well, that album barely makes the 2000 mark.
Sep 13th 2010
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                     I Am Shelby Lynne
Apr 12th 2011
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                          RE: I Am Shelby Lynne
Apr 20th 2011
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                               RE: I Am Shelby Lynne
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      lol i completely forgot this was old and i had already replied...
Sep 13th 2010
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only 2 of yours would make my 50
Sep 13th 2010
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odd... i didn't expect those 2
Sep 13th 2010
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pardon my dust, but i don't want to see this archived*
Jan 25th 2011
112
Enjoyed the list and the thread
Jan 25th 2011
113
one of the better posts of the past year
Jan 25th 2011
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i'm pleased to hear that
Jan 25th 2011
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      hell yeah!
Jan 25th 2011
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           it's a demo:
Jan 25th 2011
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                gracias my dude
Jan 25th 2011
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RE: pardon my dust, but i don't want to see this archived*
Apr 20th 2011
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Thats a very well written piece there, magazine worthy writing.
Jan 25th 2011
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thanks
Jan 25th 2011
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We could argue all day but this is a very respectable list
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inpulse
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1. "nice list, not too many surprises"
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i think i know your tastes, so i understand most of your choices

surprised 'third' and 'untrue' were "low," but i guess they get in where they fit in, eh?

i will say i thought you didn't like daft punk, so i'm surprised they made it at all

edit: oh i didn't know you like 'one word extinguisher' and 'bodily functions' that much either

  

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2. "RE: nice list, not too many surprises"
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>i think i know your tastes, so i understand most of your
>choices

i thought about talking about it but figured it was all pretty self-explanatory and implicit. some of those albums i'm so sick of talking about, and it shows, but i still had to put something down.


>surprised 'third' and 'untrue' were "low," but i guess they
>get in where they fit in, eh?

honestly i was surprised 'untrue' made it in at all over dj shadow's 'the private press' and live album, plaid's 'double figure,' air's '10,000 hz legend,' squarepusher's 'ultravisitor,' venetian snares' 'doll doll doll,' etc., but being as objective as i could i feel like 'untrue' is a better album and more enjoyable listen at this point for me.

'third' is pretty high considering how recent it is and how heavily the list and my favorite albums (in general, not just these 50) favor the beginning of the decade.


>i will say i thought you didn't like daft punk, so i'm
>surprised they made it at all

remember how i always mention how much i regret not being able to stay and experience their legendary set at coachella? i'm just not as into daft punk as i used to be and thought 'human after all' basically sucked. i listened to 'discovery' a lot for the first year or two it came out.


>edit: oh i didn't know you like 'one word extinguisher' and
>'bodily functions' that much either

OWE is one of my favorite albums ever (and i'll always have specific memories of driving to it), but 'bodily functions' is one of the more recent discoveries for me on that list, as i knew some of the individual songs on it for years but didn't hear and own the whole album until i believe last year. it's so good though. i was missing out.

  

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4. "bodily functions is the shit."
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5. "pun?"
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:)

i realized later that i was posting new year's day, so by "last year" i really meant 2008.

  

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3. "sucks to be your ipod/sony walkman/zune for 2000-2009"
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>1. Radiohead - Kid A (2000)
>It's been over nine years. Frankly, I'm all talked out and
>have been for some time. I didn't even put up a fight when my
>cousin dismissed it out of hand recently, having only heard it
>once, years ago. However, anyone reading this has probably
>heard Kid A already and formed their own opinion long ago, so
>what more could I add that hasn't been said too many times
>before?
>
>
>
>2. Bj鰎k - Vespertine (2001)
>It's her IDM album, but it's also her songwriting album.
>Vespertine showed me how glitchy electronics could be warm,
>but harps, strings, and one of the most gifted and talented
>singers of all time help make this an immaculate listen. I
>think this is one of the most underrated albums of the decade
>and in her vast, impressive discography.
>
>
>
>3. Aphex Twin - Drukqs (2001)
>Although not a cohesive listen in the traditional sense, to
>take in Drukqs is to go on a wild ride through the mad genius
>of Richard D. James. Here, he revisits his classic techno of
>the early to mid '90s (setting the stage for his return to
>acid in the mid to late '00s) but aided by every production
>skill and compositional strength he's developed since then. As
>if that were not enough, the modern day ambient master let's
>us hear his beautiful, Erik Satie-inspired piano pieces and a
>series of avant-garde acoustic workouts and freakouts. Never
>has one album offered so much and received so little
>appreciation and understanding in return. No wonder Aphex Twin
>stopped making albums.
>
>
>
>4. Hood - Cold House (2001)
>This album will always be dear to me because it helped get me
>through a difficult time. It also serves as an awesome example
>of the promotional power of the mp3, as I'd never heard Hood
>until browsing Audiogalaxy (R.I.P.) when they were a featured
>artist with three legal downloads from this album. I was
>quickly taken by Hood's fragile, gorgeous, melancholic sound,
>and today I own 12 of their discs. In an ideal world, this
>naturally flowing, genre-blending album would get at least
>half of the acclaim heaped on Kid A.
>
>
>
>5. dead prez - lets get free (2000)
>This is quite simply one of if not the most inspiring album
>I've ever heard. Listening to this gets me charged every time.
>I may not agree with every unabashed, radical political stance
>espoused by M-1 and Stic.Man, but how can anyone disagree with
>messages like "Be Healthy" and "Discipline makes things
>easier"? Besides the raw, jaw-droppingly brilliant, poetically
>expressed lyrical content, the album is musically amazing. Few
>emcees have ever sounded this consistently sharp, focused, and
>hungry, and every beat knocks and sounds beautiful at the same
>time. The fact that dead prez had an active role in producing
>the album makes it all the more special.
>
>
>
>6. Deltron 3030 - Deltron 3030 (2000)
>This album is just a lot of fun, even if Dan The Automator's
>production makes an album set far into the future sound dated.
>Del Tha Funkee Homosapien was seriously in the zone writing
>and recording this album.
>
>
>
>7. A Perfect Circle - Mer De Noms (2000)
>I don't think it's fair or accurate to call anything above a
>rock album, so that makes this debut release by Maynard James
>Keenan's side-project the best rock album of the decade and
>them the best new rock group, at least for my tastes. I love
>how their songs completely rock but are full of nuances and
>subtleties. The arrangements are great, and the production is
>perfect. Rock needs more of this.
>
>
>
>8. Deftones - White Pony (2000)
>The production may be a little cold on this album, but it
>works. The songs rock hard but sound delicate, too. There
>isn't a bad song on the initial release, which is what I have
>and is the intended tracklisting.
>
>
>
>9. Justin Timberlake - FutureSex/LoveSounds (2006)
>If you'd told me any time before 2006 that I'd be putting a
>singer from *NSYNC and former Mickey Mouse Club member ahead
>of most of my favorite artists in my top albums of the decade
>list, I'd have never believed you. Have you listened to this
>album though? It's incredible. Very rarely do I listen to an
>album and just envy the music the whole time as if I wish I'd
>made it, but this is one of those. No longer an industry
>puppet, Justin grew up (perhaps trying a little too hard in
>the process) and, with the able assistance of Timbaland and
>Danja at the height of their pop prowess, created a
>masterpiece.
>
>
>
>10. Madvillain - Madvillainy (2004)
>Rarely do dream combos work out as well in reality as they do
>in theory, but MF Doom and Madlib even managed to exceed
>expectations. It may not be Doom at his deepest or 'Lib at his
>most experimental, but it's a hell of an album. Here's to the
>next.
>
>
>
>11. Autechre - Confield (2001)
>The musical equivalent to every frenetic, weird, crazy thought
>I've had, this is still the most mindblowing album I've ever
>heard. I've learned this is also the worst place for newcomers
>to Autechre to start.
>
>
>
>12. Prefuse 73 - One Word Extinguisher (2003)
>This was one of two discs that served as the road soundtrack
>to the worst summer of my life (so far!). I loved how catchy,
>visceral, and busy this album sounded, which was just what I
>needed. I thought Prefuse was cool from his first album, but a
>couple tracks aside it was just another glitch-hop album to
>me, so I didn't have high expectations for this album. I was
>blown away by the tremendous growth in production, from the
>sinewy synths to the ambient textures (including vocals) to
>the assortment of other instruments and growing supporting
>cast. This album introduced me to the music of Diverse,
>Dabrye, Daedelus, and Tommy Guerrero, but Prefuse is the star
>of the show here. At the time it seemed like the perfect
>melding of hip-hop and IDM, my two favorite genres then (and
>perhaps still). To this day, I still consider One Word
>Extinguisher Prefuse's magnum opus.
>
>
>
>13. Radiohead - In Rainbows (2007/2008)
>I had a long history with this album before I ever played it,
>but it's really not that interesting to recap, especially now.
>Suffice it to say that I'd heard nearly every song on here in
>its live incarnation long before the album was released and
>didn't expect much based on what I found to be second rate
>material compared to the songs they toured before the release
>of their three previous albums. I think it speaks to the power
>of an even, cohesive-sounding album that In Rainbows is as
>good as it is. In the right order, these songs complement each
>other flawlessly, and although I find the high points to be
>higher on Amnesiac and Hail To The Thief and the production of
>those albums to be more "interesting," this is truly a great,
>often addictive listen.
>
>
>
>14. Saul Williams - Saul Williams (2004)
>It was really difficult to rank Saul's three albums from this
>decade. Even his Rick Rubin-produced debut that sat on the
>shelf for two or three years before seeing a poorly promoted
>release is great. The margin between Saul Williams and the
>next album is paper thin, but I give self-titled the edge
>because the music, nearly all of it self-produced, seems to
>fit Saul a little better, which makes sense as some of
>NiggyTardust! is built on scraps from unreleased Nine Inch
>Nails material. Regardless, listening to him grow as a musical
>artist from Amethyst Rock Star to Saul Williams is remarkable.
>Here are fully fleshed-out, seriously heavy compositions sung
>more often than spoken or rapped, so it feels more organic
>than the spoken word over rap-rock and drum & bass debut.
>
>
>
>15. Saul Williams - The Inevitable Rise And Liberation Of
>NiggyTardust! (2007/2008)
>Saul's rap Ziggy Stardust concept album produced by Trent
>Reznor hits all the right notes. Even more so than Saul
>Williams, NiggyTardust! signaled the arrival of a fully
>matured artist within the realm of music (as opposed to all
>those other creative arts Saul has mastered or at least
>dabbled in). Some of it does sound like NIN with another
>vocalist, but it also sounds global yet completely personal.
>Obviously the industrial elements from the previous album are
>pushed even further to the forefront here, but the punk and
>hip-hop remain intact, and the sonic palate is greatly
>expanded, including everything from screw to gorgeous,
>credible ballads. I was down in front for three shows
>supporting this album, all spectacular.
>
>
>
>16. Cannibal Ox - The Cold Vein (2001)
>Dark, scary, depressing, and brilliant, I was a little late to
>Can Ox's unique brand of cerebral street rap, coming to it
>after falling in love with the production on El-P's Fantastic
>Damage. The music on The Cold Vein is just as tense if not
>more so, but the more accessible and adept yet creative and
>experimental flows and lyrics anchor the album. One of the
>other biggest disappointments of the decade in music is the
>revelation of just how unlikely it is that Vast Aire, Vordul
>Mega, and El-P will ever regroup for a sequel.
>
>
>
>17. Outkast - Stankonia (2000)
>Even for me, it's easy to take this album for granted because
>its singles are so deeply ingrained into popular culture and
>the disc itself is full of so many songs and interludes, but
>it's important to remember that this is Outkast still at their
>creative zenith, making it look so easy trading smooth,
>rapid-paced rhymes and taking influence from all over,
>something we haven't truly gotten again from them in the
>decade since. The title for their planned full reunion album,
>The Hard 10, has taken on a new meaning.
>
>
>
>18. Nine Inch Nails - Year Zero (2007)
>Trent Reznor's allegorical, politically dystopian, cyberpunk
>concept album consists of really catchy songs that
>formulaically devolve into glorious noise. It loses points for
>some generic hard rock-isms, but Trent delivers the goods for
>the most part, making this an exciting listen complete with
>some career highlights like "Vessel" and "In This Twilight."
>The remix album is great, too, and you can remix every song on
>Year Zero with the multitracks posted online and in a DVD-ROM
>accompanying Y34RZ3R0R3M1X3D, further defining the concept of
>a DIY laptop musician future come reality.
>
>
>
>19. N*E*R*D - In Search Of... (2001/2002)
>The Neptunes at their peak stretched out and created a fun,
>catchy album with a couple really beautiful heartfelt, serious
>songs. I had the European and promo release as a download in
>2001, but the album didn't really hit me until later in the
>year when they posted a stream on their official site of what
>would be released to the U.S. in 2002. I much prefer this live
>instrumentation version, but that's a debate that has been
>ongoing among fans ever since.
>
>
>20. Outkast - Speakerboxxx/The Love Below (2003)
>Listening now I remember why I recommended this double album
>to everybody back then. While Andre 3000 experimented (and I
>say succeeded admirably) on his disc with singing, Big Boi
>delivered on what he does best, zany, funky, but
>street-credible dirty south rap. Between the two discs there
>are so many winners, yet this appears to be a
>Diamond-certified album that is actually underrated, at least
>among hip-hop heads.
>
>
>
>21. Common - Like Water For Chocolate (2000)
>This is another close call. I don't love this album as much as
>I did at the beginning of the decade, but I still find it one
>of the best rap albums I know, and I really do know every song
>on here very well. This is the album where Common joined up
>with The Roots Crew and Jay Dee, officially the Soulquarians,
>and it sounds like the best of all three worlds. It's also the
>last album where Com wasn't P.C. Note the homophobia on album
>highlight "Dooinit" and references to "bitches" peppered
>throughout the album. Nonetheless, Like Water For Chocolate
>probably has Common's most tolerable musical love letters to
>women, especially the breakout single, and still classic, "The
>Light."
>
>
>
>22. Common - Electric Circus (2002)
>For my tastes, I prefer Electric Circus these days. I give
>LWFC the edge lyrically, but the weird, beautiful, seriously
>bumpin' (when's the last time you heard that? ha)
>electronic/hip-hop/soul music of EC appeals to me more.
>Despite what some say, I think Com spits hard on this album,
>too. I feel one of the most regrettable things in this decade
>in music was Com's audience convincing him that he was too
>different on this album, that it sucked, that he dressed
>weird. They got their wish because he's never been the same
>since, unfortunately.
>
>
>
>23. Mogwai - Rock Action (2001)
>A lush, beautiful album, and their last where I can remember
>the music just by the track titles. It is a tad short, but
>maybe it's just right. It's a bit of a departure not only in
>length, but also in content, as "You Don't Know Jesus" is the
>only song that rocks long and hard (pause?) like so many
>highlights on their first two studio albums, but I wouldn't
>trade "Sine Wave" or "2 Rights Make 1 Wrong."
>
>
>
>24. Boards Of Canada - Geogaddi (2002)
>I love the paranoid effect derived from the obscure vocal
>samples, sinewy synths, and ambient textures married with
>insistent drums. The track titles and album artwork only add
>to the mythos. This freaky, psychedelic album has been
>imitated but never duplicated.
>
>
>
>25. El-P - I'll Sleep When You're Dead (2007)
>The hip-hop auteur grew in the many years between proper solo
>albums into a better emcee and even more formidable producer
>in the traditional sense, here drafting The Mars Volta, Cat
>Power, and Trent Reznor in addition to the usual help from his
>Definitive Jux roster. Every song here hits hard on some level
>emotionally and musically.
>
>
>
>26. Nine Inch Nails - With Teeth (2005)
>Although this wasn't another masterpiece that announced the
>triumphant return of Trent Reznor, I think this album is
>underrated. A lot of the quirks on past albums and Year Zero
>are replaced here by sludgy or jagged guitar riffs and
>pummeling drums, but it's a great performance.
>
>
>
>27. Slum Village - Fantastic, Vol. 2 (2000)
>This is a very fun hip-hop album with dope beats and catchy
>raps. The End.
>
>
>
>28. Portishead - Third (2008)
>This was my favorite album of 2008. I consider it nearly as
>good as the first two albums but in a completely different
>way. With Portishead having spent so much time away from
>music, no reasonable person could expect them to sound the
>same as they did before, back when trip-hop was still alive,
>and I'm glad they didn't try to act like nothing happened,
>either to their band or the Bristol scene. What they give us
>instead on Third is their rock album (some may feel more
>comfortable seeing "kraut" or "psychedelic" prefixed to that,
>but it's rock nonetheless). The feel is thus different but
>familiar. Beth Gibbons still sounds fragile, lost, and
>distraught but resolute, and the music is still heavy and
>serious, except for the delightful breather on the album,
>"Deep Water," which always reminds me of Steve Martin's The
>Jerk. The band is in top form, and I am so pleased that more
>new material is on the way this year.
>
>
>
>29. J-Live - All Of The Above (2002)
>Perhaps too sincere for some, All Of The Above is nevertheless
>a tutorial on great hip-hop. J-Live has a sporty flow and
>clearly has fun kicking nonstop substance and creative
>concepts over serviceable beats. It's refreshing to hear
>someone put so much time and effort into his craft.
>
>
>
>30. El-P - Fantastic Damage (2002)
>This is the second, darker half of the soundtrack to the worst
>summer of my life and is a natural accompaniment to Prefuse
>73's One Word Extinguisher as it, too, is a hybrid of hip-hop
>boom bap and electronics. This album is harder and uglier,
>however, in the most beautiful possible way, from the harsh
>sound of the beats to the subject matter of the songs. Very
>few albums are this well produced either.
>
>
>
>31. Massive Attack - 100th Window (2003)
>Nowhere near as good as Mezzanine, nowhere near as bad as many
>say. The intensity and paranoia here are aided by glitchy, icy
>electronics. This album is a heavy listen, not meant for
>dinner parties. My favorites are the songs where 3D sings
>lead.
>
>
>
>32. J Dilla - Donuts (2006)
>Despite how easy it plays, this album can be difficult to get
>a handle on intellectually if you love hip-hop and other music
>because of the length and treatment of the samples used. Is
>this technically a megamix? Are these even beats? These were
>among my first questions when I got into the album. As I
>listened, new questions arose. Is this Dilla's best album? Is
>this going to be a new trend in hip-hop? That last question
>was quickly answered in a resounding yes!, but the rest isn't
>so clear. I know this reads like the introductory paragraph of
>the pamphlet handed out at gatherings of the Cult of J Dilla,
>but just listen to the album. Closely. It has a message it
>speaks to you, if you listen.
>
>
>
>33. Quasimoto - The Further Adventures Of Lord Quas (2005)
>This album is mad. It's musically all over the place and full
>of so many ideas it can be hard to keep up. A lot of people
>don't like the funny voice affected by Madlib as the character
>Quasimoto, but I love it both musically and conceptually. I
>think the voice and the Melvin Van Peebles samples fit the
>music perfectly, too, so much so that I've never wanted to
>hear the instrumental versions of either album.
>
>
>
>34. Jay-Z - The Blueprint (2001)
>This is big budget, blockbuster rap in every sense. Jay-Z
>became a superstar here, but so did Kanye West and Just Blaze.
>This album has long reached Kid A levels of overdiscussion and
>overpraise, however.
>
>
>
>35. Kanye West - Late Registration (2005)
>I've always found this album to be complete and musically
>masterful. Time has shown this to be the last time Kanye
>rapped for a whole album with substance and conviction, and
>although he's grown as a producer and composer since, nothing
>has sounded this fleshed out (thank Jon Brion).
>
>
>
>36. Radiohead - Amnesiac (2001)
>With this following so quickly behind Kid A and consisting of
>songs recorded at the same time, it's a little too easy to
>dismiss Amnesiac. I don't advise it, as the highlights on this
>album are just as good as those on Kid A. I do find the
>"electronica" to be a little overcooked here, to the point of
>ruining what was their best new song in their live set in
>years, "I Might Be Wrong," a kink they finally worked out on
>In Rainbows. The piano, strings, and horns that fill many of
>the songs here help make them some of Radiohead's finest
>moments.
>
>
>
>37. The Roots - Game Theory (2006)
>On their Def Jam debut, The Roots trade their feel-good vibes
>for sad times and tension, crafting a claustrophobic, dark,
>gritty masterpiece that stands among their best work.
>
>
>
>38. The Roots - Phrenology (2002)
>This is the third or fourth Roots album I heard and owned, but
>it's the first one I learned front to back and still some of
>their most creative work. I'd love to hear the Black Thought
>solo album, Masterpiece Theatre, that half of this album was
>versioned from. As diverse and well-produced as the music is,
>BT's solid command of the mic and songwriting development
>arguably make him the high point of the album, the group's
>first without Malik B sharing mic time (although he is the
>subject of the experimental album highlight "Water").
>
>
>
>39. D'Angelo - Voodoo (2000)
>If Burial isn't ambient r&b, this is. I've always been
>attracted to the creeping tones of this album and how pretty
>melodies, simple but often profound lyrics, and even the funk
>would cut through the murk. This album is so good I can almost
>forgive D'Angelo for not releasing another one after.
>
>
>
>40. Blackalicious - Blazing Arrow (2002)
>This may have had too many hands in it, but I still find it a
>highly accomplished work and a rewarding listen. Gab has the
>same fun but substantive and conceptual lyrical content and
>dexterous delivery as J-Live but doesn't come across quite as
>naturally. Still, if you can tolerate a little geekiness and
>playful corniness in your rap music, this album was the best
>of its kind in the decade.
>
>
>
>41. Hood - Outside Closer (2005)
>There really isn't a noticeable dropoff in the quality of the
>music and lyrics between Cold House and this album. I think
>that, other than the two singles, the songs here are a little
>less catchy. If Cold House hinted at any hope for the future,
>it isn't really found here, as this is a sobering listen, with
>"Closure" being perhaps the most emotionally devastating song
>I've ever heard. This album isn't for everyone, but I find it
>a very rewarding listen. It's also another album that shows
>the similarities between jazz and post-rock.
>
>
>
>42. Herbert - Bodily Functions (2001)
>This album is highly accomplished musically and contains some
>of the most sophisticated and fully formed songwriting in the
>electronic music genre. That, in addition to live
>instrumentation, so much of this album consists of samples
>actually sourced from the human body is remarkable. Matthew
>Herbert and his jazz singer wife Dani Siciliano make a
>wonderful team.
>
>
>
>43. Reflection Eternal (Talib Kweli & Hi-Tek) - Train Of
>Thought (2000)
>I think this is Talib Kweli and Hi-Tek at their individual
>best, and joining forces they created a classic with serious
>bars and serious bass. The mournful tone found in many of the
>songs adds even greater depth and resonance.
>
>
>
>44. The Notwist - Neon Golden (2002/2003)
>I guess I like this album in the same way other people like
>The Postal Service, but I find The Notwist's beautiful and
>quirky brand of "indie electronic" music to have a lot more
>depth and lasting appeal.
>
>
>
>45. The Dandy Warhols - Thirteen Tales From Urban Bohemia
>(2000)
>This is the shoegaze album of the decade as far as I'm
>concerned. Every song on here is good if not excellent.
>
>
>
>46. Talib Kweli - Quality (2002)
>Talib Kweli shocked the underground by releasing his first
>solo album without any assistance from Hi-Tek and with
>actually measurable swag. I've always loved this album. The
>songs are fun and meaningful. It's no mystery why Kwe broke
>through with this album and "Get By" in particular.
>
>
>
>47. Burial - Untrue (2007)
>Judging by my list so far, you'd never know dubstep ever
>happened, and Burial is probably the least dubstep-sounding
>artist associated with that movement, which is perhaps why I
>love him and this album so. Every song here is basically a
>stolen r&b a cappella over top of ambient music with a
>percussion set consisting of samples of a wood block, an
>aerosol can, a gun cock, and bullet shells hitting the floor.
>Burial's music also sounds like there's a room playing drum &
>bass and another playing r&b and you're in a room in-between.
>Or maybe it's just really good ambient UK garage. That's the
>thing with Burial, he's intriguing and hard to classify.
>
>
>
>48. Air - Talkie Walkie (2004)
>It's an album full of really pretty, catchy songs, some light,
>some serious. There's probably more variety in mood and
>instrumentation on this than any other Air album.
>
>
>
>49. Squarepusher - Go Plastic (2001)
>It's really good Squarepusher, easily some of his best work, a
>solid album, and fun to listen to. It hurt to exclude
>Ultravisitor, as that is a more interesting album, but
>consistency and cohesiveness made the difference.
>
>
>
>50. Daft Punk - Discovery (2001)
>I listened to this album a lot, and you probably did, too.
>
>
>
>Personally, I have a hard time taking seriously album
>recommendations from people who don't put their money where
>their mouth is (or their key-tappin' fingers, as the case may
>be). If you're like me, you should know that I bought every
>single one of these albums.

  

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6. "i saw that coming"
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joke's on you though

  

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20. "don't mind that hate fam"
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few on here really take the time to compile, describe and reason within themselves and broader culture to attempt a list such as yours.

even though I don't listen to half of the artist/albums on your list, its the best I've read so far: pitch4k, complex, uncut, fact magazine, rolling stone, LA weekly.

the reason being their is a rhyme reason and flow to your picks. nothing really sticks out as a what the fuck pick.

I got my top 25 on my facebook notes section. if you'd like to check em out let me know

  

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22. "i don't mind"
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i know his M.O. anyway. i'm more interested in an intelligent person's "hate" (or really just criticism). i wrote this half for myself, half to create a dialog.


>even though I don't listen to half of the artist/albums on
>your list, its the best I've read so far: pitch4k, complex,
>uncut, fact magazine, rolling stone, LA weekly.
>
>the reason being their is a rhyme reason and flow to your
>picks. nothing really sticks out as a what the fuck pick.

thanks. i wonder how some of these stick out to others, but i mainly just wanted to be as objective and honest as possible. i didn't consult anyone else's view points, just wrote down what i thought. i've seen some other lists in major online publications, and they seem too politically motivated or insincere (and i've commented on a couple OKP threads saying as much), so i wanted to do it right.


>I got my top 25 on my facebook notes section. if you'd like to
>check em out let me know

definitely; you can inbox or email a copy & paste of it to me. i actually don't have facebook so links to that site usually just ask me to log in.

  

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23. "No hate, I just don't listen to the same shit he does"
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It's a preference, just cause you think you have a smart list of mostly no groove noise music
doesn't make you intelligence



>few on here really take the time to compile, describe and
>reason within themselves and broader culture to attempt a list
>such as yours.
>
>even though I don't listen to half of the artist/albums on
>your list, its the best I've read so far: pitch4k, complex,
>uncut, fact magazine, rolling stone, LA weekly.
>
>the reason being their is a rhyme reason and flow to your
>picks. nothing really sticks out as a what the fuck pick.
>
>I got my top 25 on my facebook notes section. if you'd like to
>check em out let me know

  

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24. "RE: No hate, I just don't listen to the same shit he does"
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>It's a preference, just cause you think you have a smart list
>of mostly no groove noise music
>doesn't make you intelligence

you do realize like half of those are rap albums, right? i've seen your lame potshots at the roots and am unimpressed, but you are here, so what does that say about you? as for the other half that is "no groove noise music" i'd love to hear more of your detailed impressions of the music since i'm sure you heard enough of those albums and artists to form that opinion you were so quick to run in here and express.

  

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126. "Like a good, robust cabernet"
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>doesn't make you intelligence

delicious

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7. "you can't be serious"
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49. "You just put me on to Hood's "Cold House"..."
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...it's SICK, based off my one listen yesterday. I thought I hated Anticon, but even their guest spots are tolerable. Respekt.

I'm tempted to make my own list, but I don't even know where to begin -- I bet it's super hard trying to arrange them after the first 10-20.

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51. "RE: You just put me on to Hood's "Cold House"..."
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>...it's SICK, based off my one listen yesterday. I thought I
>hated Anticon, but even their guest spots are tolerable.
>Respekt.

it's a combination that doesn't seem like it would work, but dose one and why? blend right in with the music and make it even better.

since the release of hood's last album, the singer released an album and some EPs on anticon records under the name bracken.

i used to have links to hood's music in my sig back in the mid '00s here but stopped when 1) i saw there was very little if any interest, and 2) it became a point of actual parody by Grand_Styles' inept don_ackryte alias (which was bizarre), as he assumed it was my band. anyway, i'm glad you like it. it's great winter and fall music especially.


>I'm tempted to make my own list, but I don't even know where
>to begin -- I bet it's super hard trying to arrange them after
>the first 10-20.

it took a long time. the first 4 were easy because i did a list of my 25 favorite albums in january last year, but i went back and forth on the rest.

  

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53. "RE: You just put me on to Hood's "Cold House"..."
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>i used to have links to hood's music in my sig back in the mid
>'00s here but stopped when 1) i saw there was very little if
>any interest, and 2) it became a point of actual parody by
>Grand_Styles' inept don_ackryte alias (which was bizarre), as
>he assumed it was my band. anyway, i'm glad you like it. it's
>great winter and fall music especially.

Ha! I remember that shit.

I think you tried to hip to some Hood because they covered a Robert Wyatt tune or something. And I remember thinking: "why the fuck is he trying to act like Hood isn't his band?"

Good list overall though. "Vespertine" is definitely the last Bjork album that really stuck with me, though I don't listen to it as much because it's so tied to some specific bad memories.

  

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55. "Grand_Styles assuming i'm dan_ackryte and that hood was my band"
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...cracked me up, considering hood's been around since i was 8 and are british.


>I think you tried to hip to some Hood because they covered a
>Robert Wyatt tune or something. And I remember thinking: "why
>the fuck is he trying to act like Hood isn't his band?"

yeah, eventually i just gave up, just like i'll probably never make another topic about coil, just like i took orange dust's mp3 link out of my sig when i saw he stopped making music and didn't even care enough to keep his mp3's online.

hood sampled robert wyatt, most notably on their single "the lost you."


>Good list overall though. "Vespertine" is definitely the last
>Bjork album that really stuck with me, though I don't listen
>to it as much because it's so tied to some specific bad
>memories.

i understand.

i really like 'medulla,' but because of its production (not so much the songwriting) it doesn't have as much replay value, so i couldn't include it in the top 50. i've mentioned that i still haven't come around to 'volta' but haven't played it in a long time either. i don't count her out though and still think she's making great music.

  

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85. "you must be allergic to good music."
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*******

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8. "great list and rationale"
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the only records i don't own are "Thirteen Tales From Urban Bohemia" "White Pony" and "Mer De Noms"

  

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9. "wow"
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not at not owning the below but that you own all the others.


>the only records i don't own are "Thirteen Tales From Urban
>Bohemia" "White Pony" and "Mer De Noms"

originally i had a list of over 100 candidates for this list, but very few of those extras were in the rock genre. i didn't purposely exclude them, i just wasn't that into this decade of rock music. i'm hoping that changes in this decade to come, but i suspect i'll only listen to and care about it less.

  

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10. "i'm the opposite"
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this is the decade that i got into rock music

from 1999-03 i was what you would call a backpacker lol.

once i got to college in 04 i linked up with some people who introduced me to some of my favorite acts now (mbv, sonic youth, radiohead, etc...)

i have an affinity for the more dark, melodic and brooding style than anything else, but i'm open to just about anything now.

including "some" indie shit

but i've noticed an extreme difference in quality when revisiting seminal indie records from the 80s and 90s as oppose to new shit. the label now denotes a particular sound more so than being released on an indie label. the alternative to that shit is lame genre revivals and power pop...

i blame pitchfork lol



  

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11. "RE: i'm the opposite"
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>once i got to college in 04 i linked up with some people who
>introduced me to some of my favorite acts now (mbv, sonic
>youth, radiohead, etc...)

yeah, i had the opposite experience, i got into those bands in middle and high school but didn't get into "backpack" rap until the last year of high school and then college. there's still so much i don't know about/in hip-hop since i spent so much of the '90s listening to the radio artists.


>i have an affinity for the more dark, melodic and brooding
>style than anything else, but i'm open to just about anything
>now.

i don't know if you've heard the 3 albums you said you didn't own, but much of each of those albums i'd describe as dark, melodic, and brooding rock, it's just accessible, too...


>the label now denotes a particular sound
>more so than being released on an indie label.

that's exactly how i feel. up until the early 2000s if someone talked about/recommended something "indie" i'd be intrigued because all it really meant was that it was released on an independent label and probably sounds different from what's popular/on the radio, and i'm always up for something new. now when people say "indie" it's a particular type of music or, worse, image, and i'm just turned off immediately. i always have to make sure it's something interesting and worth my time. sometimes it is, but usually it isn't anything special to me.


>the alternative
>to that shit is lame genre revivals and power pop...

i'm not into that either... i'd sooner just listen to the original music that's being revived.

  

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12. "RE: Thanks for posting."
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Always enjoy reading a more personal-leaning list.

Am slowly going to be posting my year by year thoughts on my blog.

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13. "it's a fantastic post."
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it deserves more than a shit pun.

  

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14. "RE: Dude."
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You have no idea how hard I just laughed at that.

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15. "RE: Thanks for posting."
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>Always enjoy reading a more personal-leaning list.

thanks, i tried to make it personal without including too much information no one else would care about (like an anecdote about how i looked at the censored album cover to dead prez's 'let's get free' in the store so many times before finally owning it and getting to see the full cover).


>Am slowly going to be posting my year by year thoughts on my
>blog.

cool, i'll look for those then.

  

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16. "50. Daft Punk - Discovery (2001)"
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Great album. Good list by the way.

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17. "cool"
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looking through, the things that stood out to me were

-j-live is underrated, both best part and all of the above were without doubt some of the best hip hop albums of the decade. i don't know why but I didn't check for anything by him after that

-how under the blueprint are you going to say kid a is overpraised and have it as your #1 album of the entire last 10 years? lol

-the albums i havent heard that i'd be interested in listened to off that list are dandy warhols, mogwai, and hood. and maybe NIN and burial

-its good to see fantastic damage on anyones list..on a hip hop list both el-p albums would definitely be on mine

  

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19. "RE: cool"
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>-j-live is underrated

very


>both best part and all of the above
>were without doubt some of the best hip hop albums of the
>decade.

i agree but only didn't count 'the best part' because it was recorded, meant to be released, and bootlegged in the '90s, but it's as good and in some ways (the music) better than AOTA.


>i don't know why but I didn't check for anything by
>him after that

i was on the j-live bandwagon after AOTA. when he released his EP of new material, 'always will be,' i was really into it because the rhymes were so good even though the self-produced beats were just passable. in the time since i grew a little less excited for new music from him, and when his next album leaked i saw all the bad feedback and decided to check out a few songs from it and had to agree they really weren't good. i didn't give up though; his last album was much better received, and i actually own it but haven't played it (i've talked about my first listen rituals before so i'll spare the rehash), and i was fairly confident it wouldn't make this list so i didn't feel the need to play it before publishing this.


>-how under the blueprint are you going to say kid a is
>overpraised and have it as your #1 album of the entire last 10
>years? lol

i also got at 'kid a' in my description for hood's 'cold house.' 'kid a' is an album i'm tired of talking and hearing about. it may not be as good as some say, but IMO it's still the best album of the decade. i wasn't going to exclude or change the status of it and 'the blueprint' just because i think they're overrated. i tried to be fair in my comments on all 50 of those albums without boring myself by repeating things i've said better before but couldn't remember the wording.


>-the albums i havent heard that i'd be interested in listened
>to off that list are dandy warhols, mogwai, and hood. and
>maybe NIN and burial

i could see you liking the dandy's the most out of those, although it may sound dated to someone hearing it for the first time, i don't know. you may recognize the song "bohemian like you" as it was licensed to a few things, but it's not the best song on there nor completely representative of the album.

that would be a good mogwai album for you to try, too, because it's short (30-somthing minutes and mostly normal length tracks), not too abrasive, and really beautiful. i found myself using that word a lot in my writeup, "beautiful," but that's how i feel about most of those albums, even if it's not conventional beauty (like el-p).


>-its good to see fantastic damage on anyones list..on a hip
>hop list both el-p albums would definitely be on mine

i was told it was really impractical to do an all-genre list, but i thought it was important to do not only for myself, but also for friends who don't listen to hip-hop and vice versa, just to show that those hip-hop albums are just as good and worthy of praise as the heralded albums in other genres. i thought it was important because hip-hop can be perceived as a "disposable" genre, which it isn't necessarily.

  

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18. "I'm actually appaled by how many people leave Rising Down off lists."
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This is seriously one of the best rap albums to ever bless my ears. The beats were some of the most experimental (yet so soulful) beats I've ever heard. The raps were insane.

Hell, Truck North is a fuckin' newcomer and dropped one of the most poetic verses of all time, even though Mos Def dropped one of the best verses of the year and album on the first song, and PORN was seriously vicious every time I heard him. I don't even need to go into how fucking dope Thought was.

75 Bars....sheet, it's a wrap for all you wack niggas. Thought, Truck, & PORN are like what Slum Village would sound like if everyone always rapped with ferocity and yet stayed smooth and dexterous. (No diss against SV though; the reason I love them is because they have fun, but can come hard when they want.)

They even forced Common to do a nice verse in 2008.

It was 5x as dark, menacing, claustrophobic, and grimy as Game Theory, even though I look at Game Theory more as a concept album about a man trying to get by in these harsh times, while Rising Down is more of a captured moment in history.

And, when they lightened up at the end of the record, they made the funkiest, jamminest banger of a hip-hop record that I heard all '08 and '09. Just an incredible well thought-out, well-structured album.

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21. "noted"
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i love 'rising down' and consider it a great continuation, with some key differences, from 'game theory,' and it would easily make a hypothetical top 50 hip-hop albums of the decade list. so many of my "favorite" albums didn't make the list i made though, so RD is in good company, and it's no slight. i didn't know the roots would make my list twice until i was actually narrowing down the choices, and i think ?uest has production on at least 6 of those 50 albums.


>This is seriously one of the best rap albums to ever bless my
>ears. The beats were some of the most experimental (yet so
>soulful) beats I've ever heard. The raps were insane.

i agree...


>Hell, Truck North is a fuckin' newcomer and dropped one of the
>most poetic verses of all time, even though Mos Def dropped
>one of the best verses of the year and album on the first
>song, and PORN was seriously vicious every time I heard him. I
>don't even need to go into how fucking dope Thought was.

i agree again


>It was 5x as dark, menacing, claustrophobic, and grimy as Game
>Theory

i'm willing to concede that they're equally so or that maybe RD is even a little more so, but not 5x more



>And, when they lightened up at the end of the record, they
>made the funkiest, jamminest banger of a hip-hop record that I
>heard all '08 and '09.

i agree that it's one of the best feeling hip-hop songs in a long time. that was one of the album highlights for me, too.


>Just an incredible well thought-out,
>well-structured album.

for some reason it just doesn't seem and sound as well thought-out and -structured to me, which is why i prefer GT, as it flows incredibly well and sounds tighter. maybe it's all the guests on RD, because even though they deliver, it gets a little crowded.

  

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28. "Yeah, I hear you on it not being as focused and fluid as GT."
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It definitely is their Kid A, so I can kind of see how you might like it more, especially when you have Kid A at the top of your list too (which I totally agree with).

For some reason, Thought holding down (and I mean HOLDIN' DOWN) the majority of a Roots record that's taking the group in a new direction, sonically and lyrically, is slightly less impressive than Thought spitting red hot verses and bringing out what might be the best of a bunch of other dope rappers, vets and young guns, while The Roots seriously push the envelope on how ambient and (I guess) "wonky" they can take hard-hitting rap, while still being soulful and funky.

It's like choosing between Fear Of A Black Planet and 36 Chambers for me though.

But, as a story-telling vehicle, mos def Game Theory trumps Rising Down.

"Jesus died at age 33. But what he didn't do is forget his niggas." (c) Sir Bumpy of Knuckles

  

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35. "RE: Yeah, I hear you on it not being as focused and fluid as GT."
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>while The Roots seriously push the
>envelope on how ambient and (I guess) "wonky" they can take
>hard-hitting rap, while still being soulful and funky.

haha. those terms never came to mind listening to the album, but i know what you mean. it's a really creative, experimental, but still street hip-hop album.


>But, as a story-telling vehicle, mos def Game Theory trumps
>Rising Down.

one of my motivations for doing this writeup was to salute the dieing album format as opposed to a collection of songs. with a few exceptions, most of the 50 are very easy to play front to back (provided that you like the type of music), and a lot of those albums have some kind of musical or lyrical theme if not an explicit concept. so it's by this sort of logic that GT made it and RD (and a lot of other albums i love) didn't. RD is definitely among the roots' best music, i just prefer GT as an album.

  

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25. "very genuine, ableit slightly lacking list"
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though lacking to me. very nice list overall just felt like a lot of stuff was 'missing', then again if its a personal list its all based around personal preference in the first place

  

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26. "jesus."
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30. "Okay, I'm now convinced this little migraine isn't real...alias?"
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...

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31. "RE: Yeah, that was some asshole shit, Andy."
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Not completely out of character for you, but such a blatant stab of rudeness from you is still disheartening nonetheless.

I seriously don't see how anyone could critique a list as honest and genuine as howisya's list. He could've listed the fifty most bullshit albums of the decade with the same reasoning and it still would have been a fun list to read.

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33. "I'm not saying it wasn't a good read, I'm just saying that"
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I felt it could've had more albums from other styles but that's my opinion. He posted his list on an open forum for discussion, and I gave my input. It wasn't meant to be offensive in any way at all, more just another post to the discussion. I apologize if it came off in a pompous way, which I can see now in retrospect.

  

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36. "if you have no beef w/ it, i'll let it go"
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edited, of course

  

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38. "RE: I'm not saying it wasn't a good read, I'm just saying that"
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>I felt it could've had more albums from other styles but
>that's my opinion.

i felt that way, too, actually. i would've liked to have included erykah's last album, but it didn't make the cut. same with 'back to black,' 'tha carter III,' etc. i didn't have a genre quota as that would've been missing the point, and i'd sooner have not done it at all.


>He posted his list on an open forum for
>discussion, and I gave my input.

that's why i did it, so people can discuss the music in there and help me be a better writer. i'm not going to change my taste in music based on the reaction to the list, but if i can get people discussing the albums and critiquing the process, that's worthwhile for me.


>I apologize if it came off in a pompous way,
>which I can see now in retrospect.

i wasn't offended and don't need an apology; i do see it as a slight but feel it was deserved based on a few of our conversations and general opinions i express, since we really do see music very differently despite how much of it we have in common as listeners.

  

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45. "it's HIS list tho."
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everybody's list isn't going to be as diverse as yours.

jesus.

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37. "i have no qualms with this criticism."
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i appreciate that he can sense the genuineness of it but can understand why andrew thinks the list is "lacking." some of you may remember andrew's first post here, which was dynamite: http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=17&topic_id=120973&mesg_id=120973&page=2 - despite his posts focusing heavily on electronic music for his first year or so here, i don't think he's referring to that in saying my list is "lacking," as i think he's referring to "indie," which i've freely admitted to him personally and to others is not something that excites me anymore, but anyone reading his posts in the last year or so knows how much it means to him. i respect his opinion. if i had extended my list to 100--which i didn't do because it starts to mean less after 50, besides being double the work (in addition to the ordering and writing, i also coded the entire thing for last.fm: http://www.last.fm/user/howisya/journal/2010/01/02/3axpr9_my_top_50_favorite_albums_of_the_decade_2000-2009)--then i'd have had room maybe for lcd soundsystem and tv on the radio, for example, but it'd still be what i enjoyed listening to for the last 10 years, not him, so it'd probably still be lacking compared with what he'd choose.

  

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48. "exactly man!!"
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i knew you wouldn't find that offensive

  

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27. "what did you think about the nina sample in 'get by?'"
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39. "RE: what did you think about the nina sample in 'get by?'"
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i loved it; i think we've talked about the appropriation of "sinnerman" over the years, and i think it's been overdone by now, but "get by" is one of my favorite beats, a very creative, early, textbook hip-hop chop 'n' loop by kanye, and i was happy that kwe got a mainstream hit with the song and put a lot of people onto nina in the process. i knew who she was by then, but my exposure to her music was limited, so i'm sure that song helped me along the way.

  

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42. "oh, that was you."
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i knew i went back and forth about that sample w/ someone here, but i didn't realize it was you. so, yeah, i hated that sample.

that song is one of my 5 favorites ever, and i felt like it was not a very creative sample from too well-known of a song.

but we'll move on since it's been discussed before.... LOL.

  

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29. "Oh HELL no, fam!"
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j/k!

But for real, I am suprised that "Los Angeles" didn't make your top 50 in light of what I thought was enthusiastic praise and enjoyment on your part since its release.....................

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40. "RE: Oh HELL no, fam!"
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>But for real, I am suprised that "Los Angeles" didn't make
>your top 50 in light of what I thought was enthusiastic praise
>and enjoyment on your part since its
>release.....................

i was, too. it was in the top 100 though (not precisely ranked). i would've loved to have included it, and i put it over autechre's 'quaristice,' which was released by the same label in the same year and at the time i liked about as much. 'LA' is a very special album, and i look forward to the next.

  

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32. "I'm thinking about doing a Top 5 albums for every year this decade."
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I'll probably do it when I get bored as shit.

Which could be real soon.

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41. "RE: I'm thinking about doing a Top 5 albums for every year this decade."
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i'll read it.

one of the fun things for me doing this list was seeing how much my taste has changed over the decade. doing this list, i consulted a few lists i'd made before, mostly toward the beginning of the decade, and while i still liked most of the same albums, i grew to love some much more and some much less than originally. maybe in 2020 i'll look back at this list and be like, huh?

  

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34. "great read/voodoo should have been higher on your list"
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i love the rounded nature of it, all these walks of musical life represented so well. this spectrum is a beautiful one.

far as the post title, look at me telling you how your ears should work, lol.

on the real though... for an album to have that kind of mainstream, commercial appeal and be that sonically, musically maverick is such an impressive feat.

  

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43. "RE: great read/voodoo should have been higher on your list"
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'voodoo' was originally in the late 40s because it'd been a while since i listened to it, but when i put it on, as i did with several of those albums, i remembered how much i love it and moved it closer to the top.


>i love the rounded nature of it, all these walks of musical
>life represented so well. this spectrum is a beautiful one.

thank you.


>far as the post title, look at me telling you how your ears
>should work, lol.

i wanted people to say "_____ should've been higher/lower/on there/not on there." the list is basically framing multiple potential discussions.


>on the real though... for an album to have that kind of
>mainstream, commercial appeal and be that sonically, musically
>maverick is such an impressive feat.

i know, right? it's amazing. that was exactly what i was thinking when i replayed it a few days ago, that i couldn't believe how popular this album was considering it's so different and in many ways odd, but it being so good shines through all of that.

  

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44. "hey, bit of a post jack, but i got some Thrice you'll like"
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yeah yeah i know, i'm a bit of a crusader for these guys. but after 4 albums of being a fan, i can honestly say they have shown more artistic growth then most artists from one album to the next.

this one is quite the departure, and they took more from the earth disc of the last one that i showed you. they still retain some of their basic hallmarks but it's a major aesthetic 180 IMO.

here is the highlight:

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=8C16C624B18FF97A&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&v=oD2VlkN0O30

should have been on the Watchmen soundtrack if you ask me. very cinematic, with a haunting sound scape, broadway style vocals with vivid lyricism. an odd but intoxicating mix. i know you aren't a huge fan of his voice but this is an excellent performance.

The Weight
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=8C16C624B18FF97A&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&v=VccjmoDkjFg

In Exile-probably my favorite from the beggars album.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKK5Gg2Vk6w&feature=PlayList&p=8C16C624B18FF97A&index=4

i'm real curious about your take here.

  

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50. "RE: hey, bit of a post jack, but i got some Thrice you'll like"
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>this one is quite the departure, and they took more from the
>earth disc of the last one that i showed you.

yep, i liked 'earth' but haven't played it again since then, although i've been meaning to.

i listened to these songs you linked, and they don't remind me of 'earth' as i remember it. i found these songs likable, but they didn't stand out for me. they seemed more generic without actually sounding like what's popular on rock radio now, which, for some reason, i've been listening to again for the last 9-12 months and enjoying for the most part (except for foo fighters, RHCP, incubus, and green day every single hour). to me, these thrice songs don't compete with some of the better new bands and songs i've been hearing on the radio, but i presume these 3 aren't all singles, so they're not meant to be as catchy.


>In Exile-probably my favorite from the beggars album.

i liked this one best; it's hard to go wrong with nonlyrical singing (i'm referring to the outro).

  

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46. "two thumbs up!"
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a lot of my favorites are on that list as well

Now Playing:
A Tribe Called Quest - The Low End Theory
De La Soul - De La Soul Is Dead
The Pharcyde - Bizarre Ride II The Pharcyde
Ice Cube - Death Certificate
Dr. Dre - The Chronic
Kanye West - My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy

  

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47. "great list. im gonna beef with discovery though"
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i know its your list, but i feel like the fact that you recognized discovery enough (you said you listen to it a lot) should automatically make it a lot higher on your list than #50.

anyone who is aware of discovery knows what it has done for electronic music in principle as well as helping it reach the mainstream. every song on the album is so tight (and if you've seen interstella 5555, you'll understand how complete this album is). once again, i think you have a great list, and as you note it is ballsy to post one on here of all places. but i just feel like throwing discovery in last place is disingenuous.

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52. "the main factor in its placement was longevity, which is personal."
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>i know its your list, but i feel like the fact that you
>recognized discovery enough (you said you listen to it a lot)
>should automatically make it a lot higher on your list than
>#50.
>
>anyone who is aware of discovery knows what it has done for
>electronic music in principle as well as helping it reach the
>mainstream. every song on the album is so tight (and if you've
>seen interstella 5555, you'll understand how complete this
>album is). once again, i think you have a great list, and as
>you note it is ballsy to post one on here of all places. but i
>just feel like throwing discovery in last place is
>disingenuous.

i agree with you for the most part. i thought it'd be worse to exclude it completely and throw in dj shadow, another RDJ or squarepusher album, or whatever else i wished was in there. i've barely listened to 'discovery' in the last 7 years, and if i could exclude godspeed you black emperor!, who i loved from when they released their first cd until their last but haven't listened to much since they went on hiatus, then by the same rationale i could put 'discovery' at 50. unlike 'kid a,' i never thought 'discovery' was the best album of the decade or even that year. ideally, i'd have had time to relisten to all 50 of those albums and more, but no one paid me to do this list, i did it as a labor of love, and i had to restrict myself from spending any more time on it. i never claimed perfection; i'm sure i'll start disagreeing with some of my choices by the end of the year. so, yeah, maybe that album would be ranked higher if i relistened to it, but it felt right to me at 50, more right than off the list or artificially closer to the top just based on how much i liked it for the first year or two. it's an important album, one of the most in that entire list, for the reasons you describe, but that wasn't what my list was about.

i actually haven't seen interstella 5555. by the time that came out i was burned out on 'discovery.' i've always been curious about it though.

if daft punk came out with a great studio album to follow up 'discovery' maybe i'd have remained a fan of theirs throughout the decade and kept listening to this album and everything else, but instead they're more a group i like but don't love.

  

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54. "RE: *jumps into the shark pool* My 50 Favorite Albums Of 2000-2009"
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>1. Radiohead - Kid A (2000)

I still like Amnesiac better. Though I have a better 'story' around Kid A.

>2. Bj鰎k - Vespertine (2001)

My daughter pretty much confirms the greatness of this album, having not even been born when it dropped but asking for songs from it constantly.

>3. Aphex Twin - Drukqs (2001)

I need to listen to more of this

>
>4. Hood - Cold House (2001)

and just listen to this

>5. dead prez - lets get free (2000)

This never lived up to my expectations. Or put another way they never lived up to my expectations. Or put another way, my personal thoughts get in the way of appreciating this at that level. It is good though. But how can you not skip Mind Sex?

>6. Deltron 3030 - Deltron 3030 (2000)
>This album is just a lot of fun, even if Dan The Automator's
>production makes an album set far into the future sound dated.

Nail on head. I think you already know my thoughts on the production for this.

>7. A Perfect Circle - Mer De Noms (2000)

This surprised me. Not sure why, I mean it is absolutely the awesomest. But I don't think I've ever seen it talked about here like that.

>8. Deftones - White Pony (2000)

Never a big fan.

>9. Justin Timberlake - FutureSex/LoveSounds (2006)

I still gotta make that track.

>10. Madvillain - Madvillainy (2004)

SC Better

>11. Autechre - Confield (2001)
>I've learned this is also the worst place for newcomers
>to Autechre to start.

Since I'm no longer a newcomer....
>
>12. Prefuse 73 - One Word Extinguisher (2003)
> I still consider One Word
>Extinguisher Prefuse's magnum opus.

Agreed.

>13. Radiohead - In Rainbows (2007/2008)
>In the right order, these songs complement each
>other flawlessly, and although I find the high points to be
>higher on Amnesiac and Hail To The Thief and the production of
>those albums to be more "interesting," this is truly a great,
>often addictive listen.

LOL!!! Sequencing ftw. Ehhhh.. kinda. I still think Amnesiac better. HTTT close.

>14. Saul Williams - Saul Williams (2004)
>15. Saul Williams - The Inevitable Rise And Liberation Of
>NiggyTardust! (2007/2008)

It's hard to argue against this order. Great pair.

>16. Cannibal Ox - The Cold Vein (2001)

I think I completely missed the boat on this one. I mean I can hear it, but it's just not that stellar to me. It's like Funcrusher Lite (oooohhhh I'mma catch heat for that one). Neither of them really measures up to Jus or El P on the mic IMO, though they are good compliments.

>17. Outkast - Stankonia (2000)

Yeah I lost all hope with this album. Mighty O was the last hint of former greatness, but I'm doubtful it'll ever come back.

>18. Nine Inch Nails - Year Zero (2007)

LOL @ Rock genericisms. I consider Trent a master of those.
>
>
>19. N*E*R*D - In Search Of... (2001/2002)

Never Ever Really Dug

>20. Outkast - Speakerboxxx/The Love Below (2003)

Much better than Stankonia IMO but still ehhh.

>21. Common - Like Water For Chocolate (2000)

While it has some lyrical moments, there are a lot of low points and too often the music stands out above the artist. Still waiting for the instrumental version of this to happen.

>22. Common - Electric Circus (2002)

I stopped taking Com serious with this one. It's very fetishy, and the aftermath of it in terms of the career only solidifies that.

>23. Mogwai - Rock Action (2001)

Haven't heard this in forever. Had a friend that was deep into it. I dug, but not that deep.

>24. Boards Of Canada - Geogaddi (2002)

Confession I don't think I've heard a BoC album front to back intentionally. I know I've heard a lot, but never really sat down with them. May start with this one.

>25. El-P - I'll Sleep When You're Dead (2007)

Great album

>26. Nine Inch Nails - With Teeth (2005)

I'm surprised by this inclusion. I think I remember reading you liked it but never realized that much.

>27. Slum Village - Fantastic, Vol. 2 (2000)
>This is a very fun hip-hop album with dope beats and catchy
>raps. The End.

It's wild, but that's really about all there is to say. I never talk about it. LOL!

>28. Portishead - Third (2008)

Nice inclusion.

>29. J-Live - All Of The Above (2002)

Always expected more out of J-Live. But he did well in his lane.

>30. El-P - Fantastic Damage (2002)

I never got into this one.

>31. Massive Attack - 100th Window (2003)
>Nowhere near as good as Mezzanine, nowhere near as bad as many
>say.

Exactly

>32. J Dilla - Donuts (2006)

The enigma.

>33. Quasimoto - The Further Adventures Of Lord Quas (2005)

*helium voice* not a fan

>34. Jay-Z - The Blueprint (2001)
>This is big budget, blockbuster rap in every sense. Jay-Z
>became a superstar here, but so did Kanye West and Just Blaze.
>This album has long reached Kid A levels of overdiscussion and
>overpraise, however.

LOL!!

>35. Kanye West - Late Registration (2005)

Definitely Jon Brion's best hip-hop album.

>36. Radiohead - Amnesiac (2001)

I always saw Kid A as the draft and Amnesiac as the final product.


>37. The Roots - Game Theory (2006)

Great album, but Rising Down trumps it on my list.

>38. The Roots - Phrenology (2002)

As a big Malik B fan this was a serious let down. I still contend Malik kept the group down to earth. The follow ups kinda support this.
>
>39. D'Angelo - Voodoo (2000)
>If Burial isn't ambient r&b, this is. I've always been
>attracted to the creeping tones of this album and how pretty
>melodies, simple but often profound lyrics, and even the funk
>would cut through the murk. This album is so good I can almost
>forgive D'Angelo for not releasing another one after.

LOL @ simple lyrics. I mean simple maybe, intelligible...uhhhh

>40. Blackalicious - Blazing Arrow (2002)

This was the first hip-hop album I referred to as overproduced I think. It's their opus IMO.

>41. Hood - Outside Closer (2005)

Really need to get into hood.

>42. Herbert - Bodily Functions (2001)

Need to check this.


>43. Reflection Eternal (Talib Kweli & Hi-Tek) - Train Of
>Thought (2000)

I was always disappointed with this. Not bad, but just ok imo.
>
>
>44. The Notwist - Neon Golden (2002/2003)

Hmmmm...

>
>
>45. The Dandy Warhols - Thirteen Tales From Urban Bohemia
>(2000)

That's shoegaze!!! I never knew.

>46. Talib Kweli - Quality (2002)

Decent but.... ehhhh
>
>47. Burial - Untrue (2007)

I don't see this getting to much burn from me in the 10's
>
>
>48. Air - Talkie Walkie (2004)

I love this album.
>
>49. Squarepusher - Go Plastic (2001)

Glad he made the cut.

>50. Daft Punk - Discovery (2001)
>I listened to this album a lot, and you probably did, too.

Maybe... if I'd heard it.
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56. "RE: *jumps into the shark pool* My 50 Favorite Albums Of 2000-2009"
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>>1. Radiohead - Kid A (2000)
>
>I still like Amnesiac better. Though I have a better 'story'
>around Kid A.

the highs on 'amnesiac' are arguably higher. "how to disappear completely" (which has been one of my top 5 favorite radiohead songs since they debuted it live 2 years before 'kid a') and maybe "idioteque" are better than anything on 'amnesiac,' but "pyramid song," "dollars & cents," "like spinning plates," and "life in a glasshouse" are some of their best songs and make 'amnesiac' seem better than it really is (due to sequencing and questionable arrangement and production in some songs i almost didn't even consider this album for the list until i remembered my favorite songs on it).


>>2. Bj鰎k - Vespertine (2001)
>
>My daughter pretty much confirms the greatness of this album,
>having not even been born when it dropped but asking for songs
>from it constantly.

it's a classic; other people will realize it one day.


>>5. dead prez - lets get free (2000)
>
>This never lived up to my expectations. Or put another way
>they never lived up to my expectations. Or put another way,
>my personal thoughts get in the way of appreciating this at
>that level. It is good though. But how can you not skip Mind
>Sex?

i never skip "mind sex" and didn't know until maybe yesterday that people consider it out of place on the album. i can see why some may find it corny (if that's the criticism), but i think it has a good message, and i love the music. i've only skimmed the ongoing discussion on this album here, but it seems like people's expectations and unreachable standards for political/conscious hip-hop do seem to prevent them from getting into this album. i'd never heard of dead prez until seeing their cd in sam goody and hearing "hip-hop" and "selling D.O.P.E." so dpz has always just been dpz to me. my expectations are based on this album mostly, so that's why i wasn't able to get into 'RBG' as much and have lost interest in their music for the most part (truthfully it's more a matter of not making time for it since i actually own m1's first solo album and downloaded stic.man's and haven't played either, but if they'd dropped before 'RBG' i'd have been all over those albums).


>>7. A Perfect Circle - Mer De Noms (2000)
>
>This surprised me. Not sure why, I mean it is absolutely the
>awesomest. But I don't think I've ever seen it talked about
>here like that.

the only thing that surprised me was that i couldn't honestly pick either tool album released in the last decade because they never stayed in rotation or were returned to year after year like the first APC album.



>>9. Justin Timberlake - FutureSex/LoveSounds (2006)
>
>I still gotta make that track.

you do. you've had nearly 4 years to remake that beat in 10 minutes. "sexyback" may be my least favorite on there, but i'll defend it to a degree.


>>10. Madvillain - Madvillainy (2004)
>
>SC Better

it hurt to exclude SC. i didn't realize which one i preferred until i made the list. each has its own strengths. ghost outspits doom in an album-to-album comparison, easily.

i also wish i could've included 'the w.'


>>11. Autechre - Confield (2001)
>>I've learned this is also the worst place for newcomers
>>to Autechre to start.
>
>Since I'm no longer a newcomer....

i started dating my current girlfriend right around when this album came out, and i ruined autechre for her for many years because i let her hear some of this new album i was really into and playing a lot. i just figured it was a chick thing, but i've learned my lesson since then.

i will say that i think it was this album in particular that opened my mind for good. so maybe i'm the one who should have that "autechre changed my life" banner. ha.


>>13. Radiohead - In Rainbows (2007/2008)
>>In the right order, these songs complement each
>>other flawlessly, and although I find the high points to be
>>higher on Amnesiac and Hail To The Thief and the production
>of
>>those albums to be more "interesting," this is truly a
>great,
>>often addictive listen.
>
>LOL!!! Sequencing ftw. Ehhhh.. kinda. I still think
>Amnesiac better. HTTT close.

'in rainbows' reminds me of 'white pony' now that i think about it.


>>14. Saul Williams - Saul Williams (2004)
>>15. Saul Williams - The Inevitable Rise And Liberation Of
>>NiggyTardust! (2007/2008)
>
>It's hard to argue against this order. Great pair.

when i first thought about making this list months ago and was also listening to self-titled i had the idea to put all 3 together, but in hindsight the production on 'amethyst' brings it down, and a lot of the songs really are spoken word over music more than they're real songs. lyrically they're all on par, and i love most of the music on 'amethyst,' it just hasn't aged as well, or maybe my tastes have just changed a lot since then.


>>16. Cannibal Ox - The Cold Vein (2001)

>IMO, though they are good compliments.

el-p's music and vast and vordul's vocals and lyrics are a perfect fit, but i'm really a fan of the rap performance on and content of this album, not just the beats or general sound.


>>17. Outkast - Stankonia (2000)
>
>Yeah I lost all hope with this album. Mighty O was the last
>hint of former greatness, but I'm doubtful it'll ever come
>back.

i love "mighty o" but might actually prefer "hollywood divorce" ('idlewild' didn't make my top 100, but probably would've been in the next tier). i know you're not a big fan of last decade's outkast (i keep writing "this decade" so if you see that i mean last decade).


>>18. Nine Inch Nails - Year Zero (2007)
>
>LOL @ Rock genericisms. I consider Trent a master of those.

he overdid it on 'the slip.' it's all the generic hard rock elements i take points off YZ and WT for even though i can usually find my way into enjoying them. with WT it took me a few years before it just hit me how massive it all was.


>>21. Common - Like Water For Chocolate (2000)
>
>While it has some lyrical moments, there are a lot of low
>points

there are.


>and too often the music stands out above the artist.

i don't know if that's my criticism of it as i think some of the music (too varied to call just beats) isn't as appealing to me these days. i'm thinking of songs like "the questions," "a song for assata" (which used to be one of my favorites), and some others.


>Still waiting for the instrumental version of this to happen.

i have it. i can link it up sometime.


>>22. Common - Electric Circus (2002)
>
>I stopped taking Com serious with this one. It's very fetishy,
>and the aftermath of it in terms of the career only solidifies
>that.

fetishy?


>>23. Mogwai - Rock Action (2001)
>
>Haven't heard this in forever. Had a friend that was deep
>into it. I dug, but not that deep.

i prefer their live show to their albums these days, but i keep buying them because they always sound good.


>>24. Boards Of Canada - Geogaddi (2002)
>
>Confession I don't think I've heard a BoC album front to back
>intentionally. I know I've heard a lot, but never really sat
>down with them. May start with this one.

you might prefer the previous one, 'music has the right to children' (their 1998 debut on warp). it's easier to get into; i'm not sure how much you'll like the synth tones/patches on 'geogaddi' and the production in general. MHTRTC is the sure winner in their catalog, unless you like new indie rock (or fennesz), then it's 'the campfire headphase.'


>>27. Slum Village - Fantastic, Vol. 2 (2000)
>>This is a very fun hip-hop album with dope beats and catchy
>>raps. The End.
>
>It's wild, but that's really about all there is to say. I
>never talk about it. LOL!

i think the beats on it are often brilliant and find them underrated as emcees, but saying that seemed preemptively defensive, so i stuck to the basics. it's a great rap album if you like rap music, and that's all that has to be said.


>>29. J-Live - All Of The Above (2002)
>
>Always expected more out of J-Live. But he did well in his
>lane.

you should try to produce him! philly isn't that far away. i think he'd sound good over your beats honestly.


>>30. El-P - Fantastic Damage (2002)
>
>I never got into this one.

i didn't either until a year after its release, during tough times. then it all made sense.


>>33. Quasimoto - The Further Adventures Of Lord Quas (2005)
>
>*helium voice* not a fan

have you listened to the instrumental versions?


>>36. Radiohead - Amnesiac (2001)
>
>I always saw Kid A as the draft and Amnesiac as the final
>product.

with all of 'kid a,' most of 'amnesiac,' a re-recording of "i might be wrong," and some of the 'amnesiac' b-sides, they could've also made the best double album ever.


>>37. The Roots - Game Theory (2006)
>
>Great album, but Rising Down trumps it on my list.

discussed above... i respect that.


>>38. The Roots - Phrenology (2002)
>
>As a big Malik B fan this was a serious let down. I still
>contend Malik kept the group down to earth. The follow ups
>kinda support this.

i was never a big malik b fan. i do like him, but i've always preferred BT by a lot. the music on 'phrenology' is a great expansion of the roots sound though if you look at their progress from album to album.


>>40. Blackalicious - Blazing Arrow (2002)
>
>This was the first hip-hop album I referred to as overproduced
>I think. It's their opus IMO.

overproduced, opus... yeah, i agree. i really like 'nia,' too, but i've always had a weakness for grand statements, so even with all the guests and coproduction i give BA the nod, although i was much more into it in 2002 and 2003. in 2002 this and 'quality' were my 2 favorite albums of the year, to give you an idea of how my tastes have changed.


>>41. Hood - Outside Closer (2005)
>
>Really need to get into hood.

i'd recommend 'cold house' first. they started off in the early '90s making lo-fi like sebadoh, then their sound was more post-rock like talk talk's 'laughing stock' album, then what seems to be their last era (the 2000s) was a mix of lo-fi, post-rock, electronic, and dub with some abstract hip-hop production influence/elements.


>>42. Herbert - Bodily Functions (2001)
>
>Need to check this.

i'm fairly confident you'd enjoy it. you'd definitely "get" it.


>>43. Reflection Eternal (Talib Kweli & Hi-Tek) - Train Of
>>Thought (2000)
>
>I was always disappointed with this. Not bad, but just ok
>imo.

it could be better.


>>44. The Notwist - Neon Golden (2002/2003)
>
>Hmmmm...

hmm you disagree, or hmm you should check it out?

a lot of people don't like to hear english lyrics sung in a non-native english speaking european accent, but i think it makes it more interesting, and i like the lyrics.


>>45. The Dandy Warhols - Thirteen Tales From Urban Bohemia
>>(2000)
>
>That's shoegaze!!! I never knew.

some of it, enough that the album overall has the feel.


>>47. Burial - Untrue (2007)
>
>I don't see this getting to much burn from me in the 10's

let me know. i was surprised how much i listened to it, but a lot could change in the next 10 years.


>>48. Air - Talkie Walkie (2004)
>
>I love this album.

i had no idea.


>>49. Squarepusher - Go Plastic (2001)
>
>Glad he made the cut.

i wish it was higher, but i was listening to some of it recently and it wasn't as good as i remembered. my favorite is still his debut, 'feed me weird things.'


>>50. Daft Punk - Discovery (2001)
>>I listened to this album a lot, and you probably did, too.
>
>Maybe... if I'd heard it.

it's just that most people have heard it if they like electronic music (and even if they don't). it's one of those crowd pleaser albums, which apparently aren't my preference.


EDIT: did you see/read this? one of the reasons i wrote it was because i knew it wouldn't make this list.
http://www.last.fm/user/howisya/journal/2009/12/31/3aswds_album_of_the_year_2009

  

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92. "RE: Hood"
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>>>41. Hood - Outside Closer (2005)
>>
>>Really need to get into hood.
>
>i'd recommend 'cold house' first. they started off in the
>early '90s making lo-fi like sebadoh, then their sound was
>more post-rock like talk talk's 'laughing stock' album, then
>what seems to be their last era (the 2000s) was a mix of
>lo-fi, post-rock, electronic, and dub with some abstract
>hip-hop production influence/elements.


this is a great, and official, guide on getting started:
http://www.hoodmusic.net/about/
choose your own adventure indeed.

  

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80. "RE: shoegaze"
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another way to think about shoegaze is phil spector's wall of sound but made using electric guitars and pedals/FX, which is also where the term "shoegaze" comes from, gazing at those pedals (not their shoes).

  

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57. "RE: *jumps into the shark pool* My 50 Favorite Albums Of 2000-2009"
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Nice list. Al least I recognize most if the kats on here LOL. I'll post mine soon.

  

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58. "Considering the list consists of albums from early in the decade"
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I suspect it's suffering from nostalgia, you're looking at it through rose-colored glasses.

  

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59. "or... in howisya's eye's they've already proven their longevity n/m"
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60. "Well in that case, shouldn't the list be compiled in a few years?"
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63. "RE: Well in that case, shouldn't the list be compiled in a few years?"
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it was compiled over the course of the last several months. i literally had a piece of paper i wrote the names on when they came to me. i came up with the order and wrote the descriptions last week. one of my reasons for doing this list now as opposed to years from now is that i wanted to reflect on a decade of music (doing this, i found it a little better than i thought it was) and put people onto any music they haven't heard or get them to revisit albums.

  

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64. "Naw, I'm not knocking the effort"
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I guess I was just pointing out that considering you're putting importance into longevity, then the early decade has an advantage and that the list will change in the coming years.

  

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66. "this is the kind of critique i appreciate."
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>I guess I was just pointing out that considering you're
>putting importance into longevity, then the early decade has
>an advantage and that the list will change in the coming
>years.

if it were your list and i the reader i may be writing the same replies to you. i know what you're saying. all i can say is that there are albums from the last part of the decade i included because i listened to them a lot and not just when they were new. my experience with albums released in 2009 specifically is that very few had much replay value for me even just in the course of the year, which doesn't bode well for years down the line, but maybe that will change and they'll be new favorites and there will be cause for a revised list. for now i feel comfortable enough with these 50 and how heavily they favor the beginning of the decade as most of my favorite artists released music then and many of those albums are among or simply are my favorite work by them.

  

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62. "it's mostly ^this^"
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it was nostalgia/rose-colored glasses, 'discovery' and several other albums would be higher, both gorillaz albums, 2 dj shadow albums, at least 1 godspeed album, both telefon tel aviv albums, NIN's 'still,' eminem's 'the marshall mathers LP,' jay-z's 'the black album,' kanye's debut, bjork's 'medulla,' squarepusher's 'ultravisitor,' SC, 'the w,' etc., etc., would all be in there.

on the other hand, it's weird for me seeing best of the decade lists full of 2008 and 2009 albums because most of them are unproven. the only 2 from this year i was tempted to include were tim exile and mos def's albums. from 2008 i wanted to include badu and flylohan, although i also thought of santogold, invincible, lil wayne, and the verve. the albums from closer to the beginning of the decade have an advantage of being listened to more over the years, but if i didn't find them to be great albums i wouldn't have kept listening because i certainly have plenty of albums from the last decade that i've barely played after owning them for a few months.

  

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76. "dyou think its also cos there were more 'consensus' albums back then"
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that everyone agreed on? or that its just too early for later 00s albums to really make the cut?

  

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77. "it may have played a part"
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i think music is very, very splintered right now, which isn't a strictly bad or good thing.


>or that its just too early for later 00s albums to really make the cut?

i think the late '00s are at a disadvantage to an extent, but there are albums i feel are so good that i recognized. i think mos def released his strongest album of the decade last year and easily would've made a top 100 all albums or (any # above 25) top hip-hop albums of the decade list. he's a great example of someone whose album may make a list i do again later in the new decade. tim exile's album, which i rank just above it in terms of favorite of last year, could go either way, because it really reminds me a lot of 2001-2003 warp, but there are great albums on that label during those years that either didn't make the list or were ranked farther away from #1 than i thought ('go plastic').

there were a lot of big albums from the last 2 or 3 years that i think are somewhat universal though: 'back to black,' 'graduation,' 'the carter III,' etc. (not including the albums containing big pop singles, like beyonce's latest, that i never see anyone touting as "great albums"), so the days of the shared album experience aren't gone, just not as common.

  

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61. "How did you go about making this list? (others can answer, btw)"
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I've wanted to do something similar if for nothing else but my own amusement, but it seems overwhelming. Do you already have some running database with "year released" info and all of that, or did you just sit in your room, look at everything you owned and went from there?
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65. "see reply 63"
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>I've wanted to do something similar if for nothing else but
>my own amusement, but it seems overwhelming.

it's all in how much time and effort you decide to put in. as i mentioned, i did a top 25 favorite albums overall list a year ago, and i put a lot less time into it because compared with this last list my overall favorites seemed more obvious and i didn't write any descriptions, i just included the years and picked some songs and a few videos to play.

on the other hand, i am halfway through reading astralblak's top 25 albums of the decade list. i didn't realize it from his reply above, but he actually wrote extensively about each album, way more than i wrote. i'm going to encourage him to post his list as its own new topic because it deserves to be read (astral, if you're reading this now, now you know).


>Do you already
>have some running database with "year released" info and all
>of that

i have a knack for remembering useless info as it pertains to music, so i knew most of them, but i verified some using discogs.com and wikipedia.

i also consulted a few "best of 200X" lists i had written from those years, but in most cases my taste had changed so it was more just to remind me of them instead of having to actually look at my inventory of cd's.

anyway, i encourage all music fans to do and share lists, because the media will just whitewash all the quirks out of the last decade in favor of current hot trends and already canonized, "obvious" albums.

  

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68. "i thought about doing a list."
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>anyway, i encourage all music fans to do and share lists,
>because the media will just whitewash all the quirks out of
>the last decade in favor of current hot trends and already
>canonized, "obvious" albums.


but if i'm honest, i'd say i can't b/c i steadily lost interest in new music over the past 2-3 years. last year, i think i listened to maybe 5 new releases. so my list would definitely lean towards material from the start of the decade.

but many of my favorite albums of the 00s are ones that are likely not going to be recognized by the likes of pitchfork, rolling stone, spin, urb, or whomever, so that has me thinking twice. i don't know. maybe i'll do it one day when i should be doing something else more productive.

  

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69. "RE: see reply 63"
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>>I've wanted to do something similar if for nothing else but
>>my own amusement, but it seems overwhelming.
>
>it's all in how much time and effort you decide to put in. as
>i mentioned, i did a top 25 favorite albums overall list a
>year ago, and i put a lot less time into it because compared
>with this last list my overall favorites seemed more obvious
>and i didn't write any descriptions, i just included the years
>and picked some songs and a few videos to play.

>on the other hand, i am halfway through reading astralblak's
>top 25 albums of the decade list. i didn't realize it from his
>reply above, but he actually wrote extensively about each
>album, way more than i wrote. i'm going to encourage him to
>post his list as its own new topic because it deserves to be
>read (astral, if you're reading this now, now you know).

>>Do you already
>>have some running database with "year released" info and all
>>of that
>
>i have a knack for remembering useless info as it pertains to
>music, so i knew most of them, but i verified some using
>discogs.com and wikipedia.
>
>i also consulted a few "best of 200X" lists i had written from
>those years, but in most cases my taste had changed so it was
>more just to remind me of them instead of having to actually
>look at my inventory of cd's.

>anyway, i encourage all music fans to do and share lists,
>because the media will just whitewash all the quirks out of
>the last decade in favor of current hot trends and already
>canonized, "obvious" albums.

I'll most likely give it a shot, but it might be a few weeks....maybe months out. The only thing I know for sure is I'm just going to roll with what I personally enjoyed and loved the past decade. Sometimes it's tempting to slide something up a little higher or include certain albums because you're "supposed" to (i.e. It was on everybody's Top 5 List!!), but naw, some of the decade defining albums did nothing for me when they first came out and that didn't change as the years went by.

I loved this past decade musically, too. Some folks seem to struggle to find 2 or 3 albums a year that they really enjoy, but even with a top 50 there's going to be some crucial omissions for me.
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67. "definately a good list"
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cant hate it. its not MY list, but there isnt anything bad on it. probably wouldve slipped in mm..food? idk i just really like that album

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70. "It's about 5 albums short of being a 00-05 list"
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71. "here's my list..."
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...I would make a post of my own, but I honestly can't be bothered to do descriptions for each, no disrespect, but sometimes I find writing little blurbs about albums takes the fun out of them.

If you have any questions about the albums or their placement, I'd be glad to answer.

(in order, first to last)

Bon Iver - For Emma, Forever Ago
Murs & 9th Wonder - Murs 3:16
D'Angelo - Voodoo
Madvillain - Madvillainy
CunninLynguists - A Piece Of Strange
The Roots - Game Theory
Radiohead - In Rainbows
Jay Dee - Donuts
OutKast - Speakerboxxx / The Love Below
Clipse - Hell Hath No Fury
The-Dream - Love vs. Money
Broken Social Scene - You Forgot It In People
50 Cent - Get Rich Or Die Trying
Ryan Adams & The Cardinals - Cold Roses
Count Bass D - Dwight Spitz
Kanye West - Late Registration
Slum Village - Fantastic: Vol. 2
Common - Be
Charles Hamilton - This Perfect Life
Dizzee Rascal - Boy In Da Corner
Burial - Untrue
Daft Punk - Discovery
The Avett Brothers - Emotionalism
Eminem - Relapse
Masta Ace - A Long Hot Summer
K-Os - Atlantis
Jon Brion - Eternal Sunshine Of The Spotless Mind
Lil' Wayne - Tha Carter III
Thom Yorke - The Eraser
Common - Like Water For Chocolate
Prodigy - Return Of The Mac
Robert Glasper - Double Booked
Erykah Badu - Nu Amerykah (Part One)
Vampire Weekend - Vampire Weekend
De La Soul - The Grind Date
The Diplomats - Diplomatic Immunity: Vol. 1
The Thrills - So Much For The City
Benny Sings - Champagne People
N*E*R*D - In Search Of...
Jay-Z - The Blueprint
Phoenix - United
Kanye West - The College Dropout
Little Brother - The Listening
Nas - Gods Son
The Field - From Here We Go Sublime
Cody Chestnutt - The Headphone Masterpiece
The Streets - A Grand Don't Come For Free
Blu & Exile - Below The Heavens
Sizzla - Da Real Thing
Bloc Party - A Weekend In The City

P.S. - sorry for jacking your thread, broski!

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74. "RE: here's my list..."
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>...I would make a post of my own, but I honestly can't be
>bothered to do descriptions for each, no disrespect, but
>sometimes I find writing little blurbs about albums takes the
>fun out of them.

i wasn't sure if i wanted to write a blurb for each, but when i realized i had something to say about most of them i just decided to write something for all of them. writing also helped me with ordering them since i debated with myself what to include and where.


>(in order, first to last)

i appreciate that. i'm not sure why Madvillain didn't order his past the first 10 as i think a "random" order defeats the purpose and creates confusion.


>Bon Iver - For Emma, Forever Ago

i really need to hear this album. i like the bon iver song(s) i've heard.


>Murs & 9th Wonder - Murs 3:16

i like murs and 9th but have had no real interest in their collab albums even though most of the songs i've heard from them have been good. i think marketing and image selling effects me because i just have a hard time getting excited about a murs or 9th wonder song (solo or together), but i'll listen to every jay-z album no matter how bad they get.


>OutKast - Speakerboxxx / The Love Below

i've been surprised these last few days to see people rank this above 'stankonia.'


>The-Dream - Love vs. Money

do you see yourself listening to this for many years to come, maybe for life? i enjoyed the album the time i listened all the way through, but i mainly come back to about 4 songs on it, especially "fancy."


>Charles Hamilton - This Perfect Life

people can say what they want about chuck, but i think it's sad this album didn't come out. i haven't heard it and don't plan to, but it seems like he put work into it.


>Eminem - Relapse

this was one of the albums i bought last year and wanted to make myself listen to before picking my album of the year (last.fm journal linked above to imcvspl) and doing this favorites of the decade list, but i just couldn't bring myself to do it.


>Nas - Gods Son

i wanted to include a nas album. i considered this one, 'streets disciple,' HHID, and 'untitled,' but i couldn't honestly put them at the same level as those 50.


>The Field - From Here We Go Sublime

good album... i'd have sooner included gas' 'pop' though for that style of music and label.


>P.S. - sorry for jacking your thread, broski!

it's cool with me.

  

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72. "Great great greaaaat post"
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I loved reading it, haven't listened to a lot but I will probably xhecksome out because of ur enthusiasm

  

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73. "RE: Great great greaaaat post"
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>I loved reading it

thank you


>haven't listened to a lot but I will
>probably xhecksome out because of ur enthusiasm

if you go to http://www.last.fm/user/howisya/journal/2010/01/02/3axpr9_my_top_50_favorite_albums_of_the_decade_2000-2009 the albums are all linked, and i think a lot of them you can stream directly from the web site.

  

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75. "i couldnt even begin one of these lists but good choices"
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nothing i can really argue with there.

  

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78. "My 50"
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In Alphabetical Order:

1. About A Boy by Badly Drawn Boy (2002)
2. Bachelor No. 2 or, the Last Remains of the Dodo by Aimee Mann (2000)
3. Back to Black by Amy Winehouse (2006)
4. The Black Album by Jay-Z (2003)
5. The Blueprint by Jay-Z (2001)
6. Colour the Small One by Sia (2004)
7. The Con by Tegan and Sara (2007)
8. The Crane Wife by The Decemberists (2006)
9. The Documentary by The Game (2005)
10. Donuts by J Dilla (2006)
11. Fantastic, Vol. 2 by Slum Village (2000)
12. Fever to Tell by Yeah Yeah Yeahs (2003)
13. The Fix by Scarface (2002)
14. FutureSex/LoveSounds by Justin Timberlake (2006)
15. Gang of Losers by The Dears (2006)
16. Heavier Things by John Mayer (2003)
17. Hedwig and the Angry Inch soundtrack by Hedwig and the Angry Inch (2001)
18. Hold on Now, Youngster by Los Campesinos! (2008)
19. In Between by Jazzanova (2002)
20. In Rainbows by Radiohead (2007)
21. In Search Of by N*E*R*D (2002)
22. Instant Vintage by Raphael Saddiq (2002)
23. Kid A by Radiohead (2000)
24. Late Registration by Kanye West (2005)
25. Lewis II by Lewis Taylor (2000)
26. Like Water for Chocolate by Common (2000)
27. The Listening by Little Brother (2003)
28. Lord Willin by Clipse (2002)
29. Mama抯 Gun by Erykah Badu (2002)
30. Marry Me by St. Vincent (2007)
31. More Adventurous by Rilo Kiley (2004)
32. O by Damien Rice (2002)
33. Once soundtrack by Glen Hansard and Mark閠a Irglov/Interference (2007)
34. Philadelphia Freeway by Freeway (2003)
35. Plans by Death Cab For Cutie (2005)
36. Rabbit Fur Coat by Jenny Lewis with The Watson Twins (2006)
37. The Reminder by Feist (2007)
38. Restless Times by Clara Hill (2004)
39. Rock Me by Platnum (2005)
40. A Rush of Blood to the Head by Coldplay (2002)
41. Silent Alarm by Bloc Party (2005)
42. Simple Things by Zero 7 (2001)
43. Stankonia by Outkast (2000)
44. Subject by Dwele (2003)
45. Supreme Clientele by Ghostface Killah (2000)
46. Third by Portishead (2008)
47. Urban Legend by T.I. (2004)
48. Vespertine by Bj鰎k (2001)
49. Voodoo by D扐ngelo (2000)
50. Who Is Jill Scott? Words and Sounds Vol. 1 by Jill Scott (2000)

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79. "alphabetical?"
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i think alphabetical and random are better than nothing, but it's more difficult (and, depending on what you get out of it, a "time waste") to pick an order.

anyway, it is nice to see someone else recognize the glut of great music in the first half of the decade, although i've only heard 21 of those (i love or really like them though). i love 'the documentary.' actually, i'm a big fan of all 3 of the game's proper albums.

  

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81. "solid list"
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I can't argue with this.. certainly not whack. Obviously people's lists would differ but this is a respectable one.

I wouldn't even want to begin making a list like that.. would be way stressful lol.

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82. "Amazin phase your days your hazy ways my Blazing Arrow "
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Good pick

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83. "you got about half of the LPs on my non-existant list"
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thinking quickly, i'd put on "supreme clientele" and "i am shelby lynn" fosho. oh and "everybody got their something." oh, and brian wilson's "smile".

great work man. i can totally appreciate something like this.

PRINCE beat tape https://chrisp.bandcamp.com/album/17th-day
D'ANGELO beat tape https://chrisp.bandcamp.com/album/smack-your-ass-pull-your-hair
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84. "RE: you got about half of the LPs on my non-existant list"
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>thinking quickly, i'd put on "supreme clientele" and "i am
>shelby lynn" fosho.

it hurt to exclude GFK, and it's likely i'd include him if i redid the list as it's certainly *one of* my favorite albums of the last 10 years... the shelby lynn album i haven't heard, although i do like the songs of hers i know.


>oh and "everybody got their something."

i haven't heard this either. wasn't this produced by mark ronson before he made a name for himself?


>oh, and brian wilson's "smile".

i liked it, but i guess it was never going to live up to its own legend.


>great work man. i can totally appreciate something like
>this.

thanks a lot.

  

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86. "RE: you got about half of the LPs on my non-existant list"
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>it hurt to exclude GFK, and it's likely i'd include him if i
>redid the list as it's certainly *one of* my favorite albums
>of the last 10 years... the shelby lynn album i haven't heard,
>although i do like the songs of hers i know.

yeah, "i am shelby lynn" was her dark breakup album, ala meshell's "bitter." but with so many pop elements, like some phil spector shit, and cool 808 programming. i even heard a sade influence! all under 40 minutes. really good album. dropped the same day "voodoo" did.

>
>
>>oh and "everybody got their something."
>
>i haven't heard this either. wasn't this produced by mark
>ronson before he made a name for himself?

yes, mark ronson produced it along justin stanley (nikka's husband) and nikka herself. ?uest does some really cool balls-out drumming on a couple songs. james poyser and pino were involved too; it was like a "funky white bitch" (her self-given nickname) departure after "voodoo" LWFC, and "mama's gun". her live shows for this album were siiiiick. very solid album. her previous album was like a blues-y pop record. i think ronson pulled the sly stone and hip hop influences out of her on EGTS.

>
>
>>oh, and brian wilson's "smile".
>
>i liked it, but i guess it was never going to live up to its
>own legend.

haha! it was inspirational for me--it's good to think i can be in my 60s and still finish something that haunted and tormented me in my 20s.

>
>
>>great work man. i can totally appreciate something like
>>this.
>
>thanks a lot.

PRINCE beat tape https://chrisp.bandcamp.com/album/17th-day
D'ANGELO beat tape https://chrisp.bandcamp.com/album/smack-your-ass-pull-your-hair
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87. "RE: you got about half of the LPs on my non-existant list"
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>yeah, "i am shelby lynn" was her dark breakup album, ala
>meshell's "bitter." but with so many pop elements, like some
>phil spector shit, and cool 808 programming. i even heard a
>sade influence! all under 40 minutes. really good album.

i'm intrigued... i'll definitely check this out. i do have mp3's of 2 songs from it, and i like them.


>>>oh and "everybody got their something."

>i think ronson pulled the sly stone and hip hop
>influences out of her on EGTS.

i remember liking the video for "like a feather" when it was in rotation, but i think all i ever heard from this album was this song and the title track. i'll give it a spin.

  

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88. "i heart this list."
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avy: our new album. you may just like it. listen for free online @ http://theyesyesyalls.com

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minez:

>47. Burial - Untrue (2007)
>Judging by my list so far, you'd never know dubstep ever
>happened, and Burial is probably the least dubstep-sounding
>artist associated with that movement, which is perhaps why I
>love him and this album so. Every song here is basically a
>stolen r&b a cappella over top of ambient music with a
>percussion set consisting of samples of a wood block, an
>aerosol can, a gun cock, and bullet shells hitting the floor.
>Burial's music also sounds like there's a room playing drum &
>bass and another playing r&b and you're in a room in-between.
>Or maybe it's just really good ambient UK garage. That's the
>thing with Burial, he's intriguing and hard to classify.


someone on another forum:

Bob Dobalina, on 21 February 2010 - 12:24 PM, said:
You're walking down a dark alleyway on a cold, rainy night. Somewhere off in the distance, a singer croons soulful, evocative lamentations through the ethereal fog which permeates your inner-city existence. Around the corner, you hear the sound of a bullet casing hitting the worn, broken concrete, almost as if it were happening in slow motion. Suddenly the eerily familiar, almost too familiar, clickety-clack of a lightly-syncopated drumbeat descends upon you, punctuating the rise of Mary Anne Hobbes' spectre from a nearby skip. Slowly it dawns on you that there's no way out; you're stuck in every Burial song ever made.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^brilliant, true, and hilarious

  

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90. "upon second look"
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do you think you gave the edge to your favorite artists?

or did they become your favorites through these albums?

i remember a few albums that you and i discussed that you seemed more enthusiastic about than some of these choices.

bias?

  

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91. "RE: upon second look"
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let's look at it statistically. i actually have a list of who i consider my overall "favorite artists." for the sake of this reply, in regular parentheses i have added the number of "artist" albums and in curly brackets the number of total albums they were heavily involved with in my top 50.

Bjork (1)
Aphex Twin (1)
Radiohead (3)
Nine Inch Nails (2) {3}
Outkast (2 not splitting SB/TLB)
DJ Shadow (0)
Hood (2)
Common (2)
Coil (0)
Prince (0)
Autechre (1)
Tool (0) {1}
The Roots (2)
Mogwai (1)
Neil Young (0)
Squarepusher (1)
Wu-Tang Clan (0)
godspeed you black emperor! (0)
Mos Def (0)
Jay Dee (2) {4}
David Bowie (0)
Boards of Canada (1)
Parliament/Funkadelic (0)
The Beatles (0)
N*E*R*D (1)
Portishead (1)
Massive Attack (1)
Jay-Z (1)
Nas (0)
Talib Kweli (2)
dead prez (1)
Tori Amos (0)
Kanye West (1)
Madlib (2)

some of those artists didn't release an album between 2000 and 2009, but nearly all of them did.


>do you think you gave the edge to your favorite artists?

i actually found it to be the opposite. whereas when i made a list of my 25 all-time favorite albums one day in january 2009 it was dominated by my favorite artists, this list was heavy on artists i don't consider my very favorites, and...

>or did they become your favorites through these albums?

...somehow they still haven't become my very favorites despite releasing better albums than those artists.


>i remember a few albums that you and i discussed that you
>seemed more enthusiastic about than some of these choices.
>
>bias?

i don't think it was bias so much as the difficulty in narrowing down hundreds of albums to just 50. EDIT: also, it's not to be underestimated how music can grow on you as well as wear on you. that said, the absence of an album on this list doesn't mean i don't like or even love it anymore.

  

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93. "hmmm, i think you kind of proved what i was thinking."
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*not* counting the albums in which your favorite musicians were involved, but including Speakerboxxx/Love Below, that's 32 albums out of 50. that 64%. pretty high, but i'm sure everyone leans more towards their overall favorite musicians when making these lists.

a few of those on your favorite musicians' lists aren't active anymore, had very minimal releases in 00s, or just flat out sucked in the 00s. excluding those, the propensity towards your favorite musicians shines a little brighter.

i'm not knocking this btw, it's just an observation.

  

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97. "RE: hmmm, i think you kind of proved what i was thinking."
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>i'm not knocking this btw, it's just an observation.

it's an interesting observation, but i look at it more like "wow, 36% (or whatever) of my list wasn't even by my list of favorite artists" rather than "oh, look, same people as always for 64% of this list." a lot of those artists released a few albums in this decade, but i only counted one or two and not because i didn't like the others. i tried to be analytical about it, but i like what i like. some artists i'm more a fan of one or maybe two albums they make, other artists consistently release music i'm into from decade to decade.

was there anyone or anything you expected to see based on things i've said before?

  

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94. "good list, how great was the beginning of that decade"
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kind of spoiled me as it's mostly seemed downhill from there!

  

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you're not a hipster

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98. "Elliott Smith - Figure 8 should be in there somewhere"
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at least toward the middle

i knew when writing that it was just not feasible to listen to everything i was considering for inclusion, but listening now, the lack of 'fig. 8' was a major oversight on my part more than anything else i've listened to again in the last 6 months that didn't make the list

anyway, i just wanted to give that album the credit it deserves

  

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99. "Not enough Kanye on this list"
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100. "RE: Not enough Kanye on this list"
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in a way he is the closest thing we have to a classic artist making creative music fully embraced by the masses, but i just don't think the other albums are as good as 'late reg,' and as much as i listen to his albums when he releases them, i don't think they date that well nor do i go back to them often, making them great candidates for album of the year but poor choices for a list like this.

  

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101. "if i made my list, these might make it "
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surprised not to see RJD2's Deadringer on there since u seem to like instrumental shit...

>1. Radiohead - Kid A (2000)
>It's been over nine years. Frankly, I'm all talked out and
>have been for some time. I didn't even put up a fight when my
>cousin dismissed it out of hand recently, having only heard it
>once, years ago. However, anyone reading this has probably
>heard Kid A already and formed their own opinion long ago, so
>what more could I add that hasn't been said too many times
>before?
>
>

>10. Madvillain - Madvillainy (2004)
>Rarely do dream combos work out as well in reality as they do
>in theory, but MF Doom and Madlib even managed to exceed
>expectations. It may not be Doom at his deepest or 'Lib at his
>most experimental, but it's a hell of an album. Here's to the
>next.
>
>
>
>
>16. Cannibal Ox - The Cold Vein (2001)
>Dark, scary, depressing, and brilliant, I was a little late to
>Can Ox's unique brand of cerebral street rap, coming to it
>after falling in love with the production on El-P's Fantastic
>Damage. The music on The Cold Vein is just as tense if not
>more so, but the more accessible and adept yet creative and
>experimental flows and lyrics anchor the album. One of the
>other biggest disappointments of the decade in music is the
>revelation of just how unlikely it is that Vast Aire, Vordul
>Mega, and El-P will ever regroup for a sequel.
>
>
>
>17. Outkast - Stankonia (2000)
>Even for me, it's easy to take this album for granted because
>its singles are so deeply ingrained into popular culture and
>the disc itself is full of so many songs and interludes, but
>it's important to remember that this is Outkast still at their
>creative zenith, making it look so easy trading smooth,
>rapid-paced rhymes and taking influence from all over,
>something we haven't truly gotten again from them in the
>decade since. The title for their planned full reunion album,
>The Hard 10, has taken on a new meaning.
>
>
>
>
>20. Outkast - Speakerboxxx/The Love Below (2003)
>Listening now I remember why I recommended this double album
>to everybody back then. While Andre 3000 experimented (and I
>say succeeded admirably) on his disc with singing, Big Boi
>delivered on what he does best, zany, funky, but
>street-credible dirty south rap. Between the two discs there
>are so many winners, yet this appears to be a
>Diamond-certified album that is actually underrated, at least
>among hip-hop heads.
>
>
>
>21. Common - Like Water For Chocolate (2000)
>This is another close call. I don't love this album as much as
>I did at the beginning of the decade, but I still find it one
>of the best rap albums I know, and I really do know every song
>on here very well. This is the album where Common joined up
>with The Roots Crew and Jay Dee, officially the Soulquarians,
>and it sounds like the best of all three worlds. It's also the
>last album where Com wasn't P.C. Note the homophobia on album
>highlight "Dooinit" and references to "bitches" peppered
>throughout the album. Nonetheless, Like Water For Chocolate
>probably has Common's most tolerable musical love letters to
>women, especially the breakout single, and still classic, "The
>Light."
>
>
>
>22. Common - Electric Circus (2002)
>For my tastes, I prefer Electric Circus these days. I give
>LWFC the edge lyrically, but the weird, beautiful, seriously
>bumpin' (when's the last time you heard that? ha)
>electronic/hip-hop/soul music of EC appeals to me more.
>Despite what some say, I think Com spits hard on this album,
>too. I feel one of the most regrettable things in this decade
>in music was Com's audience convincing him that he was too
>different on this album, that it sucked, that he dressed
>weird. They got their wish because he's never been the same
>since, unfortunately.
>
>
>32. J Dilla - Donuts (2006)
>Despite how easy it plays, this album can be difficult to get
>a handle on intellectually if you love hip-hop and other music
>because of the length and treatment of the samples used. Is
>this technically a megamix? Are these even beats? These were
>among my first questions when I got into the album. As I
>listened, new questions arose. Is this Dilla's best album? Is
>this going to be a new trend in hip-hop? That last question
>was quickly answered in a resounding yes!, but the rest isn't
>so clear. I know this reads like the introductory paragraph of
>the pamphlet handed out at gatherings of the Cult of J Dilla,
>but just listen to the album. Closely. It has a message it
>speaks to you, if you listen.
>
>
>
>33. Quasimoto - The Further Adventures Of Lord Quas (2005)
>This album is mad. It's musically all over the place and full
>of so many ideas it can be hard to keep up. A lot of people
>don't like the funny voice affected by Madlib as the character
>Quasimoto, but I love it both musically and conceptually. I
>think the voice and the Melvin Van Peebles samples fit the
>music perfectly, too, so much so that I've never wanted to
>hear the instrumental versions of either album.
>
>
>
>34. Jay-Z - The Blueprint (2001)
>This is big budget, blockbuster rap in every sense. Jay-Z
>became a superstar here, but so did Kanye West and Just Blaze.
>This album has long reached Kid A levels of overdiscussion and
>overpraise, however.
>
>
>
>36. Radiohead - Amnesiac (2001)
>With this following so quickly behind Kid A and consisting of
>songs recorded at the same time, it's a little too easy to
>dismiss Amnesiac. I don't advise it, as the highlights on this
>album are just as good as those on Kid A. I do find the
>"electronica" to be a little overcooked here, to the point of
>ruining what was their best new song in their live set in
>years, "I Might Be Wrong," a kink they finally worked out on
>In Rainbows. The piano, strings, and horns that fill many of
>the songs here help make them some of Radiohead's finest
>moments.
>
>
>39. D'Angelo - Voodoo (2000)
>If Burial isn't ambient r&b, this is. I've always been
>attracted to the creeping tones of this album and how pretty
>melodies, simple but often profound lyrics, and even the funk
>would cut through the murk. This album is so good I can almost
>forgive D'Angelo for not releasing another one after.
>
>
>
>48. Air - Talkie Walkie (2004)
>It's an album full of really pretty, catchy songs, some light,
>some serious. There's probably more variety in mood and
>instrumentation on this than any other Air album.
>
>

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102. "Deadringer"
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>surprised not to see RJD2's Deadringer on there since u seem
>to like instrumental shit...

i've actually never heard it still to this day. i was gonna buy it in the store one time but got antipop consortium's 'arrhythmia' instead. between album versions, remixes, and parts excerpted in mixes, i've heard a third to nearly half of the album, but nothing's ever made me want to hear it all. i prefer rjd2's remixes and production for other people, especially back then. he's talented, no doubt.

  

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103. "i dig it..."
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i've always wanted to do a list like this but the perfectionist in me won't let me. it's always afraid i'll miss something important and hate myself later. maybe i'll try someday for yuks.


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104. "RE: i dig it..."
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>i've always wanted to do a list like this but the
>perfectionist in me won't let me.

it's the perfectionist in me that drives me to do things like this, but the results are never perfect.


>it's always afraid i'll miss
>something important and hate myself later. maybe i'll try
>someday for yuks.

yeah, try it. i missed things, too, namely 'figure 8,' and didn't make time to relisten to everything i was considering, but for the most part i'm still satisfied.


since you've already replied months ago, i want to take this opportunity to apologize to anyone who thinks this thread is new or is just irritated to see it on page 1 again. unlike, say, the jay electronica thread i up for yuks at his expense, this one i up when i think of something related i want to add, this time the kanye comment after watching his performance last night. i was planning on upping this again after i listen to the shelby lynne album, whenever that is.

  

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105. "Why's that? Which one are you talking about?"
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>i was planning on upping this again after i listen
>to the shelby lynne album, whenever that is.

  

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107. "'i am shelby lynne'"
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cbk brought it up in reply 83, and i've been wanting to listen all year. as for the replying style, sometimes i think of something i or someone else said and have something to add on or change. it's one of the good things about nothing getting archived anymore, although there is the risk of being included in the hundreds of pages getting deleted in the biannual board cleansing if the threads aren't occasionally upped.

  

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108. "Well, that album barely makes the 2000 mark."
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Came out in the UK the year before I think. I remember this being a point that got brought up when she won that Grammy.

Even still, every record that came after it other than Love, Shelby is better (I'd say Identity Crisis and Suit Yourself are her two best). Not that I Am Shelby Lynne is a bad album, in fact it's pretty good. But it does sound a little MOR at times. It's a good entry point though as it was when she began to transition away from being a regular mainstream country musician.

You know I'm a big fan so I look forward to your thoughts when you get around to listening. That was one of the first country albums I ever bought. I think I bought it the day after she won the Grammy.

  

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109. "RE: Well, that album barely makes the 2000 mark."
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>Came out in the UK the year before I think. I remember this
>being a point that got brought up when she won that Grammy.

ahh, interesting. sigur ros' 2nd album also came out in the '90s before being released here, although i never really took that too heavily into consideration for this.

shelby lynne was on my radar back then from the record reviews--including those of her sister--and the grammy awards and performance with sheryl crow, but she's just been one of those artists i've dragged my heels on really exploring.


>Even still, every record that came after it other than Love,
>Shelby is better (I'd say Identity Crisis and Suit Yourself
>are her two best). Not that I Am Shelby Lynne is a bad album,
>in fact it's pretty good. But it does sound a little MOR at
>times. It's a good entry point though as it was when she
>began to transition away from being a regular mainstream
>country musician.

i'll use it as my gateway but won't get discouraged if i'm not blown away by it. i've heard songs from later albums, including courtesy of you, so i know she's good and will give her a chance.


>You know I'm a big fan so I look forward to your thoughts when
>you get around to listening. That was one of the first
>country albums I ever bought. I think I bought it the day
>after she won the Grammy.

i've been listening to a little country this year but mostly old time and bluegrass. still, i've also been listening to a lot of late '90s woman singer-songwriters, so there's all the more reason to finally listen. as well as you, i figure i owe cbk some thoughts when i do, but if there is by chance some shelby lynne topic between now and then, i'll go there instead. it is a nice ruse to get new eyes on what i wrote 9 months ago, but i don't mean to trick or annoy anyone who's seen it already.

  

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121. "I Am Shelby Lynne"
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i thought it was excellent! some really beautiful songs on there. i didn't expect, but nonetheless enjoyed, what i heard as strong r&b/soul undertones among other influences, and any MORness was fine because i spent a lot of 2010 listening to MOR female music anyway.

bonus plug: dalecooper's similar list/thoughts: http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=5&topic_id=2495422&mesg_id=2495422&listing_type=search

  

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123. "RE: I Am Shelby Lynne"
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The soul influence was definitely what sold me when I first heard it, along with her voice. I think if you like that album you should definitely continue to work your way through her discography. As I've said before, she's got better stuff.

However, you can skip the follow up to I Am..., Love, Shelby. It was a Glen Ballard-produced attempt at becoming a pop star since she had just won Best New Artist at the Grammys. I'm pretty sure Shelby even hates that album.

  

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125. "RE: I Am Shelby Lynne"
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>As I've said before, she's got better stuff.

i'll take your advice and check out Identity Crisis and Suit Yourself next. thanks.

  

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106. "lol i completely forgot this was old and i had already replied..."
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somethin told me i had read it before too. hahaha.


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110. "only 2 of yours would make my 50"
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>17. Outkast - Stankonia (2000)
>Even for me, it's easy to take this album for granted because
>its singles are so deeply ingrained into popular culture and
>the disc itself is full of so many songs and interludes, but
>it's important to remember that this is Outkast still at their
>creative zenith, making it look so easy trading smooth,
>rapid-paced rhymes and taking influence from all over,
>something we haven't truly gotten again from them in the
>decade since. The title for their planned full reunion album,
>The Hard 10, has taken on a new meaning.
>

this would be higher on my list


>24. Boards Of Canada - Geogaddi (2002)
>I love the paranoid effect derived from the obscure vocal
>samples, sinewy synths, and ambient textures married with
>insistent drums. The track titles and album artwork only add
>to the mythos. This freaky, psychedelic album has been
>imitated but never duplicated.
>

this would be lower on my list


some wouldn't make my top 100 while others wouldn't cross my mind for consideration. the effort in putting this list together gets my respect though. good stuff

a few from the past decade, no order.

Bilal - 1st Born, 2nd - 2002
Micatone - Is you Is - 2002
Blue Six - Beautiful Tomorrow - 2002
Omar - Best By Far
Madlib - Shades of Blue - 2003
Scarface - The Fix - 2002
Sean Price - Monkey Barz - 2005
TIP - Trap Music - 2003
2000black - A Next Set of Rockers - 2007
Badu - Mama's Gun - 2000

  

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111. "odd... i didn't expect those 2"
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they don't seem to go together other than we're two people who like both


>Bilal - 1st Born, 2nd - 2002

2001...

i've said this before elsewhere, but i only heard this album in full once and wasn't into it. i really like "reminisce" and the dre tracks, and "sometimes" *is* good but not as deep to me as it is to everyone else. i was familiar with bilal already from his features, but as a solo or album artist i didn't see what was so great. i guess i was like the general public in that regard. now 'love for sale' on the other hand was brilliant and made my tentative top 100. i haven't heard his one out today, but i look forward to it. if i heard '1st' again now, i'd probably like it a lot more than i did then.


>Madlib - Shades of Blue - 2003

excellent album, i love it, and the fact that i remembered it but didn't consider it strongly shows how many great albums were released in that decade by my standards at least


>Badu - Mama's Gun - 2000

great album, but i prefer '4th world war' and nearly included it in the 50. it's more to my sensibilities, but to each his or her own.

  

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112. "pardon my dust, but i don't want to see this archived*"
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*this is sitting on the 2nd to last page with some others being mulled over; it's just my opinion, i have this saved, and others have done ambitious lists that weren't archived... ask DubSpt


after listening again over the last 12 months, some albums that probably should've been in there:

(already mentioned) Elliott Smith - Figure 8
(30s?) Bark Psychosis - ///Codename: Dustsucker
(toward the end) Bjork - Med鷏la
(ditto, put on by a lessonhead... BigReg?) Tujiko Noriko - Shojo Toshi (remastered version w/ bonus tracks from 12")
(ditto, but i'd have to re-eval their others before committing; either way, this ended up being perhaps my favorite album of 2009 but heard in 2010) Anti-Pop Consortium - Fluorescent Black

there's a lot of truth to the criticism that the list was heavily biased in favor of the beginning of the decade, but that was when i had less music and would play things even longer than i do now (i still play things out for a while); maybe some more recent albums would get the same treatment, but there were also albums from that earlier time i didn't include because i rarely go back to them for whatever reason


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113. "Enjoyed the list and the thread"
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and you've inspired me to make my own, which I'm going to post shortly.

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i actually got into the Deftones due to this post.

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115. "i'm pleased to hear that"
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they're a great band, and i enjoy all their albums... 'white pony' is just the "one" for me

let me know if you want to hear the original demo version of chino moreno's team sleep album, which is way better than and different from the retail version

  

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link it up fam. post or inbox me. it'd be greatly appreciated

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119. "it's a demo:"
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http://www.mediafire.com/file/a88t5ppgt3qd8c5/sleemteap.zip

  

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124. "RE: pardon my dust, but i don't want to see this archived*"
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>(toward the end) Bjork - Med鷏la
>(ditto, put on by a lessonhead... BigReg?) Tujiko Noriko -
>Shojo Toshi (remastered version w/ bonus tracks from 12")

take these out and add drexciya 'harnessed the storm.' very good companion to 'drukqs,' which is so high. i can't imagine anyone who likes the techno tracks on 'drukqs' not liking that album, and it was reissued last year.

  

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116. "Thats a very well written piece there, magazine worthy writing."
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I enjoyed it...but wheres Sea Change!?

  

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>I enjoyed it...but wheres Sea Change!?

its absence is a little conspicuous, but i think it made the temporary top 100... it was the last beck album i fully enjoyed

  

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122. "We could argue all day but this is a very respectable list"
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Well done.

  

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