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"drc congolese rumba - generation 5"
Thu Nov-12-09 06:10 PM by sha mecca

  

          

before i get into it if you're just getting familiar with congolese music you might wanna read the following:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wendo_Kolosoy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Kalle
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Kalle_%26_l%27African_Jazz
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franco_Luambo_Makiadi
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tabu_Ley_Rochereau
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr_Nico_Kasanda
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OK_Jazz
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zaiko_Langa_Langa

click around the articles there are more names and stuff that might give you a bigger understanding of how these bands worked. many of the bands that were and are successful have something to do with a band that either previously existed or still exists. certain bands who were considered the epitome of excellence in what they did were considered a 'school'. the first 'school' was grand kalle's african jazz and so on and so forth. the school's were the bands that represented a generation for most people. (not everyone who listens
to congolese music follows it so religiously lol but these are the terms in which the music is discussed within the industry)

the generations we have to remark don't necessarily represent a set amount of years some generations held it down for years after their initial impact (ie franco, tabu ley, zaiko langa langa, etc). what makes the generation is the memebers who leave and form their own thing. of those members who leave and do their own thing who will stand out and shift the sound. those people become the leaders and torch holders and are crowned the following generation.

right now congolese rumba or modern congolese music is in its 5th generation. artists from the previous generation who still run the scene are koffi olomide, werrason, jp mpiana, tshala muana (female singer), awilo longomba, and a few others.

koffi olomide's band 'quatier latin' spawned two of the 5 generations biggest stars, fally ipupa and ferre gola.

http://spotistarehe.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/kora.jpg

both vocally strong and unique writing styles with sleak production that is 'world music' palatable but still keeps in tune with original congolese rumba stylings (ferre gola more so than fally) while still expanding upon it (more so fally than ferre lol)



just for today i'm going to go into their respective careers using youtube and links. give me a few. by the time you've done reading all this i will have put some kinda music up lol brb.


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another thing i should explain too is that the powerhouse dudes
Nov 12th 2009
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so which came first, Congolese rhumba or the Latin stuff?
Nov 12th 2009
2
congolese rhythms came first, latin music came second, then
Nov 12th 2009
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      haha, thats what I was thinking
Nov 12th 2009
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           glad you like it
Nov 12th 2009
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i should also add that i didn't know who ferre gola and fally ipupa
Nov 12th 2009
4
koffi has an amazing voice
Nov 12th 2009
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      lolol true. the slickness is actually what turned me off to it at first
Nov 12th 2009
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      I got a coupla koffi albums from les_fleurs
Nov 25th 2009
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      LMAO
Nov 25th 2009
18
      damn I love some Koffi & Quartier Latin shit
Mar 01st 2010
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           he's real hit or miss for me
Mar 01st 2010
27
                I've never really thought about his music, I just like it
Mar 01st 2010
29
                     i hear you. i was introduced to his music differently lol
Mar 01st 2010
30
                          I know
Mar 01st 2010
31
                               haha true lol
Mar 01st 2010
32
      I like Awilo Longomba more than Koffi...
Jun 09th 2010
44
           his techno soukous i gotta get use to that lol
Jun 13th 2010
45
more quartier latin...this time introducing fally 'dicap le mervielle' i...
Nov 12th 2009
5
been digging this one.
Nov 13th 2009
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      that's whats up :D
Nov 14th 2009
12
fally & ferre live
Nov 12th 2009
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POST QUARTIER LATIN - fally ipupa - droit chemin (the album)
Nov 16th 2009
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in 2007 fally ipupa won the Cesaire Award
Nov 22nd 2009
14
beer ads & congolese music
Nov 22nd 2009
15
POST QUARTIER LATIN - ferre gola
Nov 25th 2009
16
tambour d'afrique tonight
Nov 28th 2009
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^^^ and every saturday from 10pm - 12am (EST/NY)
Mar 06th 2010
38
ferre live
Nov 28th 2009
20
FALLY & FERRE THE SOPHOMORE ALBUMS
Dec 07th 2009
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alright i'm ready to revisit this post.
Mar 01st 2010
22
fally ipupa - arsenal de belles melodies (A2BM) videos
Mar 01st 2010
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bookmark.
Mar 01st 2010
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ferre gola - qui est derierre toi? (who is behind you; QDT) videos
Mar 01st 2010
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after having listened to both albums extensively since i last posted
Mar 01st 2010
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that should say fally has more 'duds' not 'dudes' lol
Mar 01st 2010
34
damn, i didn't know this post was still going.
Mar 01st 2010
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RE: damn, i didn't know this post was still going.
Mar 05th 2010
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ferre gola - je t'attend (mp3)
Mar 05th 2010
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ferre gola - qui est derriere toi? (video)
Jun 09th 2010
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Werrason's new young bloods - MAYI YA SIKA
Mar 05th 2010
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...
Jun 09th 2010
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they have been featured on 2 albums so far
Jun 09th 2010
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ha... this post is still around?
Jun 09th 2010
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lol i thought it fell off too
Jun 09th 2010
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ladies of the 5th generation
Jun 13th 2010
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CINDY LE COEUR
Jun 14th 2010
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MEJE 30
Jun 14th 2010
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This is DOPE!
Jan 15th 2011
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^
Jan 15th 2011
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thnks!
Jan 16th 2011
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      So what exactly distinguishes Generation 5 from 4?
Jan 16th 2011
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           as was said in the original post :P
Jan 16th 2011
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                Sorry... I wasn't around when it was originally posted
Jan 16th 2011
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                     it's all good ;)
Jan 16th 2011
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new Meje 30 ft. Fally Ipupa - Tshobo (Vid directed by Tshala Muana)
Jan 19th 2011
56
wenge musica maison mere rehearsal
Jan 19th 2011
57
ferre gola sings for his sponsors primus (2011 new)
Jan 19th 2011
58
congolese music is the most pan-african music among black
Jan 28th 2011
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ferre gola's new album boit noire
Nov 07th 2011
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damn 2 years later and the album still ain't drop lol
Apr 05th 2013
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haha this post IS STILL ALIVE!? YAASSSSS
Apr 05th 2013
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FALLY IPUPA new album POWER (KOSA LEKA) dropped today
Apr 05th 2013
62
goldmine!
Sep 17th 2019
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RE: goldmine!
Sep 18th 2019
66
wow was going to make a post on highlife / juju
Sep 18th 2019
65
Can this post be archived?
Sep 18th 2019
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sha mecca
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1. "another thing i should explain too is that the powerhouse dudes"
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like franco and koffi olomide pride themselves in introducing new talent by having several singers on their payroll and pushing new talent to the fore front through their band (hence becoming a 'school' for the upcoming generations) many times their 'students' or 'singers' would have their own solo songs and chances to write new songs and
try new things. the maestro would be credited for finding such great talent and the student would learn from the maestro and hope to gain recognition to further expand their careers.

here is ferre gola in the koffi olomide song 'insecticide'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkLFvfSchGY

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2. "so which came first, Congolese rhumba or the Latin stuff?"
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Just curious.

<----holler at a player when you see him in the streets (c)Stuart Scott

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sha mecca
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3. "congolese rhythms came first, latin music came second, then "
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congolese rumba

the particular genre of music was created away from home then came home and got perfected

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6. "haha, thats what I was thinking"
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the stuff sounds good

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sha mecca
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7. "glad you like it "
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i'mma be posting more as the night goes. i'm doin mad shit at once right now though lol but i hope to fill this post up over the course of a few days rather than rush it anyway. enjoy!

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sha mecca
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4. "i should also add that i didn't know who ferre gola and fally ipupa"
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were until they were already established. around 2006/2007. fally ipupa went solo first. i'm not the biggest koffi olomide fan (i'm trying to change that but its so much music i haven't gotten deep into his stuff yet). i say that to say this. some of these videos i'm posting i'm seeing and hearing for the first time lol we're learning together!!
(i will eventually get mp3s of these youtubes i'm putting up too 'cause i likey lol i will share)

anyway ferre rips this song too around 3:21

sissi silivi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5wsNogZuSg

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8. "koffi has an amazing voice"
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the music isn't my cup of tea, too slick sounding. it also sounds 'inspirational' but that probably has more to d/ my western perception of how african music can sound.

i doubt this song is all that wholesome or inspirational based on the music video though... lol

  

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9. "lolol true. the slickness is actually what turned me off to it at first"
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but the more i listen to it the more enjoy and appreciate what is being done.

the congolese are really just great at interpreting other folks sounds and incorporating their undeniable spin on it. these days the music is heavily influenced by r&b, hip hop and european urban music (which is also most times a slick version of american r&b and hip hop lol)

fally and ferre have managed to improve on the sound they came from. i will get to that soon.

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17. "I got a coupla koffi albums from les_fleurs"
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`and was really turned off... it all sounded like the soundtrack to the Lion King, with bad synths to boot.

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so I'm in a band now:
album ---> http://greenwoodburns.bandcamp.com/releases
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my own stuff -->http://soundcloud.com/lonesomedstringband

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18. "LMAO"
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23. "damn I love some Koffi &amp; Quartier Latin shit"
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Mon Mar-01-10 02:40 PM by Coco la chapelle

  

          

Well, I grew up listening to that music ...

  

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27. "he's real hit or miss for me"
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but when he hits he hits
he def has an ear for talent

  

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29. "I've never really thought about his music, I just like it"
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Mon Mar-01-10 03:18 PM by Coco la chapelle

  

          

I don't know his early stuff but i grew up dancing on Quartier Latin.
It's not something I could analyze, I've never really listened to it carefully, it was there and I liked it for what it was

  

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30. "i hear you. i was introduced to his music differently lol"
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31. "I know"
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and I find it funny and interesting to see that some people are discovering him the same way Im discovering old soul and rock, that's great !

  

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32. "haha true lol"
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44. "I like Awilo Longomba more than Koffi..."
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His production is less "plastic" overall based on what I've heard. This is a jam: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_5aLpacNkA

  

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45. "his techno soukous i gotta get use to that lol"
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5. "more quartier latin...this time introducing fally 'dicap le mervielle' i..."
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dicap as in leonardo dicaprio lol he got the name for his GREAT looks (can you tell i have a crush on him!?)

anyway here he is with koffi olomide in 'ko-ko-ko-ko'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6mefDPHEAg

and pharmicien

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGBH4GjFhPM

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11. "been digging this one. "
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>and pharmicien
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>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGBH4GjFhPM



i found myself trying to remember the melody this morning so i had to revisit.

  

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12. "that's whats up :D"
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got way more shit to post. i just been busy.
i will be back in this post soon.

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10. "fally & ferre live "
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Thu Nov-12-09 07:13 PM by sha mecca

  

          

http://www.videosurf.com/video/ferre-gola-fally-ipupa-skol-10787765?vlt=ffext

http://www.videosurf.com/video/fally-ferre-dans-zua-nga-bien-11628711

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13. "POST QUARTIER LATIN - fally ipupa - droit chemin (the album) "
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in 2006 fally ipupa left koffi olomide's band to record his debut album 'doit chemin'

here are all the videos from the album
these days congolese artists release vhs/dvd of their videos either WITH their cds or in a separate release shortly after. or both (releasing more videos over time with the success of the album)

here are the videos from droit chemin

title track droit chemin
this style is called a 'generique' which is a song in which the 'rumba' is removed and the whole song is the sebene. ndombolo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yA0cyUMS5SE

droit chemin remix

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K63zgaOwz1U

liputa

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_36L46GtNw

orgasy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjFy0Wfou1w

sopeka

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfYDmFnumHQ

kidiamfuka

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaqT8ALzw7A

mieloseke (this song makes me laugh uncontrollably. he's singing in english and its REALLY bad! lolol)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNdsWUtUDM0

attente

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pAxowuC2mg

mabele (my personal favorite)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9I0dnQYzwk

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14. "in 2007 fally ipupa won the Cesaire Award "
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in paris for Best Male Artist.

Here is his performance at the Award show he shows why

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=

live in brussels in 2007

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWBnxd7tYPQ

fally's performances are more 'commercial' if you will. def not in a bad way but when i show you ferre's performances you'll see what i mean. ferre is more 'downhome' in style and carries the music in a more traditional fashion in my opinion.

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15. "beer ads & congolese music"
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since congolese rumba existed singers and bands have advertised for companies. they were (and still are) even paid and sponsored by rich families to have their names mentioned in songs and/or have dedication songs made for them.

while i had fally ipupa's album almost immediately after it dropped i didn't really feel it too tough at first. i was still in the midst of discovering the beauty of congolese music of the past. and just naturally given the climate of music all over the world the music now just doesn't compare most of the time.

but then you have to look at the innovation with in those constraints and see how the artists really inject themselves into the music and also the culture. no matter how digitized the music its always unquestionably congolese.

when i heard this skol ad (skol is beer company. ferre does ads for primus another beer company you'll see later) by fally ipupa that's when i came to certain realizations that. one being that congolese music is still top notch on the production end and in being innovative and fresh even when you can tell their are outside influences. that seems to be congo's specialty. anyway i'm glad i'm doing this blazed 'cause its just flowing at this point lol i hope the words are appreciated as much as the music.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ml7PJJmyuOc

the thing that caught my ear on this song is the part where the women sing a chorus. and they get on dudes who wear tight pants. me hating to see dudes in tight pants i had to love it lolol but yall be the judge.


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16. "POST QUARTIER LATIN - ferre gola"
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Wed Nov-25-09 11:54 AM by sha mecca

  

          

shortly after fally ipupa left quartier latin ferre gola did the same. he came out with the album 'sens interdit' in 2007. another album i didn't pay much attention to until recently. my favorite song on the album was

qui vivra vera
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NaHN0U_ZL0

and i played that shit to death. didn't really pay attention to the rest of the album at all til i started up this post. a lot of these songs i'm hearing for the first time today even. i have so much congolese music that a lot of times i get caught up in a few songs and don't get into the rest. but that leaves me with mad shit to hear so i don't mind it. i'm falling in love with a few songs right now lol

100 kilo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R15D1sWfnUo

the generique sens interdit
(a generique is what was once known as the sebene. which was the height of the song after the rumba had completed and the dancing began. the generique is sebene alone, no rumba and an atakalu (caller, sometimes called a 'rapper' in modern day congo) shouting dance moves and other phrases over the track. there isn't much lyrical content on a generique. its main mission is to make you dance.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFcbNwOEuKo


365 jour
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkkaCB7iOqo

1ans (i like this one alot)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOZlZ1KPMaQ

mercure
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPnm-IVlz0o

i'm just posting videos for now 'cause i just dont have the energy to upload shit right now just for one or two people to download lol i'm doing mad shit at once. but if you want either fally or ferre's first album, inbox me.

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19. "tambour d'afrique tonight"
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10pm est @ www.radiotriomphe.com

http://tambourdafrique.blogspot.com

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38. "^^^ and every saturday from 10pm - 12am (EST/NY)"
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20. "ferre live"
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he performs kilos while still with quartier latin but both him and fally (who is in the footage as well as koffi olomide) leave the band not too long after this song is a hit. (other singer from quartier latin sings too but they're all performing 100 kilos; notice t he pictures of beer behind them. a lot of these shows are sponsored by beer companies)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSZsxRdnCVw

clips from a live show in fikin last year (look out for the lil kid in the red shorts name chikito. lil dude is nice. at one point he 'battles' one of the singers in ferre's band and basically sons him (its staged lol) notice the 'primus' signs behind them. a beer company lol in a lot of ways beer companies out there are almost one with the music industry) ferre's shows are more lively in comparison to fally and it follows the 'traditional' format closer. ferre is more of a band leader than fally is imo. fally is more a solo artist.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBv8Lpg2-QQ

i love the dancing in this one. ferre an his dancers dance to a 'generique' while the atakulu shouts dances for them to do (among other things)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suPv0igQr0g

ferre gola is cosigned by simarro litumba, one of franco & tp ok jazz's greatest writers and composers. the song in this clip is written by him for madilu system. madilu was another alum from the ok jazz school of rumba. a great vocalist he passed away in 2007. this concert ferre had was in tribute to him. ferre gola is vocally compared to madilu often so it was only right.

benite
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6WHgBAgCpU

michou (a song by another fallen great vocalist by the name of pepe kalle. this is at the same tribute concert for madilu system)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1HyJjWe0dk

makambo ezali minene (one of madilu systems greatest hits under franco. one of his signature songs)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-mhETtlzzY




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21. "FALLY & FERRE THE SOPHOMORE ALBUMS"
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so since they released their first solos a couple of years ago
both fally and ferre have won critical acclaim
fally ipupa has more of a mass appeal in europe due to his sound
being more of a mix of r&b
but ferre is definitely right up there with him.
you can't have a conversation about one without someone bringing up the other.
they have solidified their place as 'leaders of the new school' with the release of their sophomore albums this year.

fally ipupa released Arsenal De Belle Melodies (which is also known as A2BM; and i'mma be calling that for the duration of this post) earlier
this year.
ferre gola released Qui Est Derriere Toi? (which i will abbreviate as QDT) just little over a month ago.

I haven't heard ALL of the songs from QDT so i will begin with talking about my love for A2BM. stay tuned.

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22. "alright i'm ready to revisit this post."
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24. "fally ipupa - arsenal de belles melodies (A2BM) videos"
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A2BM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSzXSvV3yns

TRAVELING LOVE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8podSZI7DKk

BICARBONATE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJOQHh2Nd4E

CADENAS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4O0ivtl0Dw

CHAISE ELECTRIQUE (FT. OLIVIA OF GUNIT FAME)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9y3MDtPxJPE

LOURDES
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1M_g7ZQIcY

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25. "bookmark."
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26. "ferre gola - qui est derierre toi? (who is behind you; QDT) videos"
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GENERIQUE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cszyiSchH4k

ZAZOU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPD1ovsLNCk

KAMASUTRA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKaSoXuY1kg

3ME DOIGT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDSDhGWng8s

MABOKO PAMBA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHGUWGybp4Y

SOKE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkH7kNbARYo




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28. "after having listened to both albums extensively since i last posted"
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this i'm gonna have to go ahead and give my personal nod to ferre
just for the simple fact that he has managed to build upon the greatness
of the 80s and 90s generation and make it fresh.
his influences are obvious (madilu, franco, etc)

now i prefer QDT but it's not a long shot decision. fally has more dudes on his album but that's because ferre takes a safer route and
it sounds better. fally takes risks and it sometimes sucks. that
chaise electrique shit isn't the worst shit in the world but i dn't
like it lol and his singers just aren't as interesting as ferre's
to me. fally can easily carry an album himself but when he gets
singers none of them come even close to his singing you wonder why he
even got them ont he record. ferre on the other hand has some superb
vocals on his own (sometimes switching his singing style within a
song as evidenced on karmasutra) his singers all sound like they should have they own shit popping. they're intresting and polished.

my favorite song from either album have no video for them so i will share them here. these are the songs that really made me go 'wow ok
i see what you're doing there' lol

FALLY IPUPA - 5eme RACE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUAXHWAYq34

FERRE GOLA - JE T'ATTEND
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NfSAzYZwkI

in the end i applaud what they're both doing but the next artists i'm about to start talking about REALLY excite me in a whole other way.
i'll get into that in af ew.

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34. "that should say fally has more 'duds' not 'dudes' lol"
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>this i'm gonna have to go ahead and give my personal nod to
>ferre
>just for the simple fact that he has managed to build upon the
>greatness
>of the 80s and 90s generation and make it fresh.
>his influences are obvious (madilu, franco, etc)
>
>now i prefer QDT but it's not a long shot decision. fally has
>more dudes on his album but that's because ferre takes a safer
>route and
>it sounds better. fally takes risks and it sometimes sucks.
>that
>chaise electrique shit isn't the worst shit in the world but i
>dn't
>like it lol and his singers just aren't as interesting as
>ferre's
>to me. fally can easily carry an album himself but when he
>gets
>singers none of them come even close to his singing you wonder
>why he
>even got them ont he record. ferre on the other hand has some
>superb
>vocals on his own (sometimes switching his singing style
>within a
>song as evidenced on karmasutra) his singers all sound like
>they should have they own shit popping. they're intresting and
>polished.
>
>my favorite song from either album have no video for them so i
>will share them here. these are the songs that really made me
>go 'wow ok
>i see what you're doing there' lol
>
>FALLY IPUPA - 5eme RACE
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUAXHWAYq34
>
>FERRE GOLA - JE T'ATTEND
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NfSAzYZwkI
>
>in the end i applaud what they're both doing but the next
>artists i'm about to start talking about REALLY excite me in a
>whole other way.
>i'll get into that in af ew.

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33. "damn, i didn't know this post was still going."
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i missed quite a bit.

  

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35. "RE: damn, i didn't know this post was still going."
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36. "ferre gola - je t'attend (mp3)"
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http://www.mediafire.com/?1mldgdg4z4z

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42. "ferre gola - qui est derriere toi? (video)"
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http://tambourdafrique.blogspot.com/2010/05/qui-est-derriere-toi.html

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37. "Werrason's new young bloods - MAYI YA SIKA"
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Werrason has been around since the 80s so he's of the 4th generation. Any singers stemming from his group Wenga Musica Maison Mere (which was once Wenga Musica and the different artists branched off; long story for another day lol)
are of the 5th generation.

Werrason is known much like Koffi Olomide for having great singers in his group. Ferre who once sang for koffi also sang for Maison Mere at one point in his career.

But it wasn't until a couple of years ago when i saw these youtube clips that I really started paying attention to Werrason.

Introducing Mayi Ya Sika aka Temps Present aka NOW the most current new generation

The members are Deplik, Cafe Rhum & Fabregas aka Fabrice
i saw this clip and was in complete awe. at that moment i knew the
music was safe lol

Here they are singing Diego Music (A libanga to their production company. A libanga is a paid shout out in simple terms lol)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJ3JNGFjgdw

fabrice is on the left, cafe rhum in the middle and deplik to the right

fabrice and deplik
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5z4jAoLBdA

(in all of these clips they're singing songs that are recorded. you'll recognize them when i post them. they mixed songs together too as they're just 'freestyling')

deplik is definitely known as a fally ipupa jr of sorts. the more i listen to him i hear his uniqueness. he's a great vocalist and the clear heart throb of the 3 lol. fabrice i love for his very street interpretation of his singing. reminds me of rapping/deejaying in the way he places anemonapeas( lol sp) and what have you. he's a favorite but i must say love them all.
cafe rhum just sings like a fucking angel. period. lol he's ill

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39. "..."
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43. "they have been featured on 2 albums so far"
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mayi ya sika & more recently techno malewa sans cesse vol 1.
they sing a lot more on the more recent release
and each have a solo song and video.

aside from the singers i named, in werrason there is also a popular singer by the name of heritier i will also post his video from the album 'techno malewa sans cesse vol 1' Werrason makes an appearance on almost every song. He's dude with the braids and sunglasses with the basic voice that still hits lol


DIEGO MUSIC (Lead: Fabregas)
(at the beginning of the video the woman is saying its great that you work but i never see you. and basically that's what the song is about and its also about the woes of fame and how friends treat you different after you get money etc. they're also singing the praises of diego music, their production company.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HszegBFt3Tg&feature=related


SALON D'HONNEUR (Lead: Cafe Rhoum)

(this song is basically about a love gone wrong. i wish i could translate this shit but that's just too much lol)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBIWV8tkiMc&feature=related

MITTERAND CHAMPAGNE (Lead: Deplik)

(This song is a Libanga and a love song at the same time. In congolese singing tradition the singer is a story teller also and often sings from the point of a woman despite being a male singer. This is the case from this song. The video depicts dude in a love
triangle but the lyrics to the song he's singing for a Mitterand Champagne. Some one big in the Congolese community that paid to have
this song sung basically. I'm not sure who dude is but i've seen his
name mentioned elsewhere)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9uIzg_sP0k&feature=related

PAR AMOUR (Lead: Heritier)

(Basic love song)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAh4dTr8rjU&feature=related

CHAMPION KUTULA (Lead: Werrason)
(Another Libanga)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dU6sqw-XPc4&feature=related

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40. "ha... this post is still around?"
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41. "lol i thought it fell off too"
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bout to add on lol

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46. "ladies of the 5th generation "
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CINDY LE COEUR & MEJE 30
http://www.antilles-mizik.com/boutique/images/KOFFI_CINDYCOEUR.jpg

http://www.africahit.com/news/images/articles/2009_09/7334/u1_meje30.gif

these two young women were in a group young singers & musicians called L'Orchestre Wassa in the early 2000s
see if you can point them out in this video lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJZrLsPEzFU&feature=related

in the last two years they were both snatched up by congolese music legends to solidify their spot in the current generation as the new 'divas' of congolese rumba.

Cindy Le Coeur joined Koffi Olomide and his Quartier Latin in 2008 recording several songs and videos for the album Bord Ezanga Kombo.

Meje 30 was picked up by legendary congolese singer/entertainer/pan-africanist Tshala Muana around the same time and was recently featured on the 2009 album Sikila.

They both have pretty voices to me. Cindy Le Coeur's voice is better imo but I feel Meje30 was given better songs as she has more of a lead vocal role in Tshala Muana's band Mamu International. Mama Tshala has stated in interviews that this is intentional as she's had her 30 years in the business and it is Meje's turn to begin her 30 years (hence the name Meje 30). Meje 30 is Tshala Muana's way of giving back, giving a young woman a chance the way she was given a chance. in comparison at this point i prefer Meje but like with Fally & Ferre there is definitely room for the two of them. Particularly when congolese music barely has women representatives to begin with (although they pretty much rule the Christian music genre which is huge out there but i digress).

Anyway i'm going to post some videos when i get home. this is hard to do at work lol

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47. "CINDY LE COEUR"
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she only has one formal video with koffi olomide that i've seen
but she has several live performances and most recently she performed
koffi olomide's hits in paris at the zenith. i will be posting vids
from that as well as her one video. although s he is featured all
over the last koffi album she's only in one vid (that i've caught on
youtube so far)

IKIA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1AiI-8xBKM

DIABOLOS (live au zenith)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTF_yne9P8k

ASPIRINE (live au zenith)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Een35u0QOUM&feature=related

BEBE GOUT (live au zenith)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-OscapPhBU&feature=related

when i post the videos for meje 30 you will see what i mean about her taking a lead vocal role in mamu international as opposed to cindy's secondary role in quartier latin. koffi is still very much the lead
vocalist of his operation. most songs featuring cindy le coeur are duets. i would love to hear more from her as a solo artist. her voice
is great.

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48. "MEJE 30"
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DOUKOU DOUKOU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DxnLo7CEcU

DELESTAGE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31tK_Yfc98s&feature=related

DUEX SAISONS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuulaU5TkBU&feature=related

GRANDE PETRE MERE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNku7O44jXU&feature=related

FIMBO YA BAKANDJA (currently my fave song off the album Sikila)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QI03RMTVw9M

MBINGAZOR (i love this one too)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-mLLoke_L8&feature=related

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50. "This is DOPE!"
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>these two young women were in a group young singers &
>musicians called L'Orchestre Wassa in the early 2000s
>see if you can point them out in this video lol
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJZrLsPEzFU&feature=related

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51. "thnks! "
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52. "So what exactly distinguishes Generation 5 from 4?"
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53. "as was said in the original post :P"
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lol the artists introduced by the leaders of the previous generation make up generation 5 (that's on an official level) other artists like mimitah and laurette la perle (who i will eventually post about) who don't have big recognized backing but still have a buzz would be considered part of the wave of the 5th generation as well but congolese music buffs wouldn't really call them that i don't think. they're not really on the radar of the type of people who know all the musicians of every band, every singer and the whys and whatfors behind bands breaking up etc. it is technical terminology with a loose interpretation from what i understand. the people kinda crown folx as it goes along.

like with wenge musica for example. that one band was short lived but their success was so great they solidified a 3rd gen spot. then the stars that splintered off from there (werrason, jb mpiana, etc) had huge bands with great success that began the 4th gen. those bands splintered off into other bands too. similar to zaiko (langa langa stars, choc stars, etc) but with those splintered off groups so many of the original members worked with one another so often that the offshoots are just considered part of the era where zaiko langa langa reigned in general (from the mid70s through the mid80s).

there are a bunch of artists i haven't even touched upon yet 'cause i just didn't have their music back when i made this post but i will definitely be adding on as long as this post is alive! lol i was gonna ask to have this archived but i'm not done yet!

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54. "Sorry... I wasn't around when it was originally posted"
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and I kinda skimmed through while trying to catch up lol

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mwasi kitoko
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55. "it's all good ;)"
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www.royallegacy.org
http://therapfest.com/up-next-artists/

  

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mwasi kitoko
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56. "new Meje 30 ft. Fally Ipupa - Tshobo (Vid directed by Tshala Muana)"
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i still got more artists to intro but until i get a chance to do that i'll be posting a few newer videos.
This is a match up i been waiting for since i saw them perform live together (on youtube lol)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Md7ywvh5IoE

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mwasi kitoko
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57. "wenge musica maison mere rehearsal"
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thank nzambe for youtube and the subscribe button.

part i
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3W6M5F_8pw&feature=sub
part ii
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_p6UePgJlo
part iii
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AF5Wf7-8J0o
part iv (dancers)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcS7lqndsNM

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mwasi kitoko
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58. "ferre gola sings for his sponsors primus (2011 new)"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lSx2FEei-8

www.royallegacy.org
http://therapfest.com/up-next-artists/

  

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mwasi kitoko
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59. "congolese music is the most pan-african music among black"
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people globally....true or false?? and i don't mean to say congolese people are the most pan-african, i mean the music and the musical fraternity there-in.

i'll return with my argument. just had a random ass thought as i'm getting ready for work listening to bozi boziana's 'bana rdc' (children of rdc)

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mwasi kitoko
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60. "ferre gola's new album boit noire"
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new album due out sometime early next year
here is some practice footage of one of the songs off his album
ferre unlike fally is following in the tradition of great band leaders
before him and has gathered up some of the best singers i've heard in a while.

a few years ago (i'm too lazy to check if i already posted this but lol) ferre introduced a really young singer by the name of chikito.
the boy who is from the congolese city of matadi by way of bandal was 15 years old looks clearly malnourished in this clip(i don't know his back story but he could very likely have been a street kid he looks 10 instead of 15) but you can see why he chose him to be in his band:

http://splicd.com/L9XvmgVPbGQ/110/402

here is chikito (19 now) leading off the lead single of ferre's new album. not sure of the name of the song. they probably won't put up the song's name until either the album is released or an official video comes out but anyway. the people singing may not even wind up singing it on the album. but anyway this shit is dope, ferre's singers are pretty great the guy with the lil braids name is r.kelly (lol)
the guy at the end 'petit lacoste' is another kid ferre has picked up. (he's not in the band though). at the end of the video he makes fun saying go to back to school ('cause once he hits puberty he won't be hitting those notes again) lol

but really shit like this makes me proud to be where i'm from:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDa5-j2NdAM&feature=player_embedded#!





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motherburd
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63. "damn 2 years later and the album still ain't drop lol"
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congolese artist be taking their sweet time between albums for real

THAT'S ENOUGH

  

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motherburd
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61. "haha this post IS STILL ALIVE!? YAASSSSS "
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THAT'S ENOUGH

  

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62. "FALLY IPUPA new album POWER (KOSA LEKA) dropped today"
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here are the singles released so far:

Sweet Life:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmyGF8YnICU

Power 001:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-YFHYUTwS8

Ndoki:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZZzLsstVYQ

1000% mawa:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fqqejnlxrn8

THAT'S ENOUGH

  

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organix
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64. "goldmine!"
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thanks, this is exactly what i was looking for.

just made a post seeking more info on rumba music and it somehow disappeared. made a search and found this pot of gold. cheers!

ps do you know why a lot of the songs are in french?

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my mixes: www.mixcloud.com/jessewarren
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IslaSoul
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66. "RE: goldmine!"
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>ps do you know why a lot of the songs are in french?

colonisation

http://islasoul.bandcamp.com

  

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T Reynolds
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65. "wow was going to make a post on highlife / juju"
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Was just recently exposed through a record dealer who came up on a deep collection.

This post is amazing though.

  

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IslaSoul
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67. "Can this post be archived? "
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I miss Sha.
She was always good for stuff like this.
R.I.P.

http://islasoul.bandcamp.com

  

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