Anybody who was a Chris Brown fan once*, continue to not listen to him because of his troubled past with women?

Were folks who once stepped in the name of love*, still clear the dance floor when an R Kelly song comes on at the BBQ? Have you heard Kelly at a BBQ lately?

I mean Tory Lanez canceled himself but do folks have an issue listening to his music these days

Wait was any other musician ever actually "cancelled"?


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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

or maybe I stopped paying as much attention.

a friend to me she was singing at a wedding recently.

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

Not in the lane she's in. It was a PROFOUNDLY asinine move on her part.

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her career also wasn't big enough to withstand naively taking that gig.

poor choice all around. lost her marriage too.

such a great talent and actually seems like a genuine person who stepped on a landmine.

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

Although personally, I don't really fuck with him any more.

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He's a more established artists with longer money so there won't be any sob stories - but I think the impact on him was / is pretty bad.

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I'm glad I'm not alone on that.

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like he really didn't need to do that at all.

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The "conspiracy brother" in me thinks it has something to do with his acquisition of Death Row.

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harry o was pardoned by trump and this a way for snoop return the favor. not sure if he was was pressured into doing it, but here we are.

he's lost a few followers after he did it, but it hasn't really stopped anything. he's doing the olympics again.

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

snoop's last few albums haven't been good. that's affecting him more than the trump stuff.

yeah, he's been called a bunch of names, but it hasn't stopped anything.

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

and i am a huge snoop fan. doggystyle is one of my favorite albums ever but performing for Trump was too much for me.

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>her career also wasn't big enough to withstand naively taking
>that gig.

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I dont grandstand about it in real life, it’s just not something I do
Like I haven’t had a drink since February, no real reason, but I’ve yet to yuck anyone elses yum by that choice

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It's the perfect solution, I get to enjoy the music, the victims get paid, R Kelly suffers.

Win - Win.

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“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

Forgot how good that song is. I don’t dance in mixed company though so we just sat and talked about how good it was.

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but I’m also not making playlist with Chris Brown on it.

Same with anyone else who is supposedly canceled.

If a Biggie song comes on with Puff on it I’m not going to be that person demanding folks stop dancing or to change the song.

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kells was played heavily. not gonna lie i was two stepping like a mf couldnt help myself.

two step away, guilt free, my G.

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>Wait was any other musician ever actually "cancelled"?

In some circles, MJ. Not me.

But Kanye I avoid for the most part. Which sucks cuz his music was such a big part of the early part of my adult life, and I love so much of it. But I have a visceral reaction everytime I hear his voice these days, so I turn him off if he comes up on shuffle on my master playlist or anything like that.

I never really sought out Kells or Chris Brown like that so I don't necessarily need to actively "avoid" their music. And if someone else puts them on, I don't complain.

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everything after that aint on my radar but I’m not going to kill the vibe if Stronger or Can’t Tell Me Nothin’ comes on.

and I never stopped listening to MJ.

More of a Prince fan but fuck all that.

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plus a few other civil rights leaders

that just proves people dont be listening
they hear what they want to

i get what they’re saying or trying to, but the culture is hell bent on misunderstanding

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that just proves people dont be listening
they hear what they want to

Kanye gets blamed for it
yet we’ve been hearing it for decades and never once got upset about it

shiiit, i think MLK said it too

lol at sway
do with the information what you will

and also know that everyone in the Black community wasn’t a fan of MLK.

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the way Kanye did, when he apologized for hurting people and followed that with he was not going to edit himself anymore, years later when he need more attention ?

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here's the full quote that often gets misinterpreted:

But what’s worse than that is the slaves who identified with their masters, as if the slaves’ value as human beings depended on what the masters were like. What they were like was evil! They were called “masters” because they owned human beings! And we slaves were ready to fight each other over which of the lowdown filthy dogs who owned us was the best! But it wasn’t the slaves’ fault. Like Douglass wrote, slaves are like other people. When you think about it, it’s a wonder more black folks didn’t fight with one another instead of fighting against the white man the way Denmark Vesey, Nat Turner, David Walker, and a whole lot of others did. While you’re busy shaking your head thinking they were stupid, ask yourself this: are we any better today? Black people put on the uniform of the U.S. military, our masters, and go to Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, and anywhere else Uncle Sam tells us to go, and fight and kill yellow-skinned folks and brown-skinned folks on behalf of the United States, our masters—just like slaves fighting other slaves. Meanwhile, back home, one out of every half-dozen blacks is locked up for committing the same drug crimes as white dudes who walk around free. What’s wrong with that picture? Then you’ve got blacks in police uniforms out there arresting other innocent blacks. Blacks in America really need to study the Jews in Germany. Those Jews never thought they were part of Hitler’s system, most of them never sided with the people oppressing them. We do. We go to war. What kind of abomination is that? How many blacks go to war because we can’t find a job, and are willing to kill or be killed just so we can feed ourselves and our families? But remember, our already-free Maroon ancestors risked all of that just to free others. Getting back to Frederick Douglass, it’s like he said: Slaves are like other people. Too many of us have that slave mentality. It can take a lot to get past that, but a lot of us have, and Frederick Douglass was one.

I think he is paraphrasing and actually talking about once slavery ended how some Black folk were still up white folks ass

but that is not anywhere near the same thing as “slavery was a choice” in the way Kanye said it.

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The TMZ interview should have been the end, but I really cut all his albums out of my life during the later Trump sucking/phony presidential run. I remember trying to write an anniversary feature about Late Registration, but being too pissed off to finish a paragraph.

Removed everything from my iPod/iPhone. Yes, I still download music to my iPod/iPhone because I don't fox with streaming. Don't really miss it really. Occasionally feel the desire to listen to a random song, but there's so much music out there, old and new, that I can listen to and be happy.

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>The TMZ interview should have been the end, but I really cut
>all his albums out of my life during the later Trump
>sucking/phony presidential run. I remember trying to write an
>anniversary feature about Late Registration, but being too
>pissed off to finish a paragraph.

lol


>Removed everything from my iPod/iPhone. Yes, I still download
>music to my iPod/iPhone because I don't fox with streaming.
>Don't really miss it really. Occasionally feel the desire to
>listen to a random song, but there's so much music out there,
>old and new, that I can listen to and be happy.

Pretty much same here re: "missing" it. I don't think about it often. But there are times when I do get sort of sad that I have to turn off a particular song (recently, "We Don't Care" comes to mind) but it's more because I feel grief over the loss of the person he used to be (or used to pretend to be), than it is because I'm dying to hear his music.

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Is it man the music is great but I am going to abstain because he sucks as a person or is it the music actually no longer sounds good to me because he sucks as a person?


I mean I've hated Kanye for a long time now (more recently, I feel sad for him as we wait for the tragic end), but the music has never stopped being a bop for me.



>The TMZ interview should have been the end, but I really cut
>all his albums out of my life during the later Trump
>sucking/phony presidential run. I remember trying to write an
>anniversary feature about Late Registration, but being too
>pissed off to finish a paragraph.
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>Removed everything from my iPod/iPhone. Yes, I still download
>music to my iPod/iPhone because I don't fox with streaming.
>Don't really miss it really. Occasionally feel the desire to
>listen to a random song, but there's so much music out there,
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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

The primary reason for my enjoyment of his music has always been the production, so I could overlook the things I found annoying about his voice and lyrics. So once he went off the deep end, the visceral disgust I feel everytime I hear his voice almost came naturally.

I do miss a lot of his beats, but I get my fix of his old production from the beats he did for other artists, without having to hear his stupid MAGA voice.

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he made good songs but it was mostly based on his production. his rhymes are average and he has always been corny. also, imo he hasn't made good music in years so that makes it easier not to listen to him,

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

I have enjoyed Kanye albums during my life. I have a lot of fun memories surrounding listening to "Graduation" when my wife and I were still in the dating phase of our relationship.

Maybe it's because I was already extracting myself from the Kanye train by 808s and Heartbreaks (only album I bought after that was MBDTF) and really off the bandwago by TLOP.OR because I listen to A LOT of music all the damn time. But as much as I like those early albums, I don't ever feel the need to check for them again. Yeah, sure every once and a while I might, "Eh, I could listen to Bound 2 right now?", but then I realize I have literally thousands of other albums at my disposal, many of which I like more than Kanye's best.

I mean, I don't here his music as much out there, because I'm old and washed and rarely "outside" to any great degree anymore, but when I do hear it, I roll my eyes and don't really check for it. And, honestly, I do get annoyed when artists I respect still, after everything that's happened, collaborate with the guy.

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>Maybe it's because I was already extracting myself from the
>Kanye train by 808s and Heartbreaks (only album I bought after
>that was MBDTF) and really off the bandwago by TLOP.OR because
>I listen to A LOT of music all the damn time. But as much as I
>like those early albums, I don't ever feel the need to check
>for them again. Yeah, sure every once and a while I might,
>"Eh, I could listen to Bound 2 right now?", but then I realize
>I have literally thousands of other albums at my disposal,
>many of which I like more than Kanye's best.

And even that album I found pretentious early on. I had to come around on it.

808s was insufferable, so I started peeling off of Kanye around that time, too.

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I am trying to figure out if people still like the music but are taking a moral stance against listening to them or if they actually no longer like the music because of who he is.

Sounds like you are saying you like those early albums but are choosing not to listen to them because of his behavior.


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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

>Sounds like you are saying you like those early albums but are
>choosing not to listen to them because of his behavior.

Pretty much it. I look it like I look at Mel Gibson: I'm a huge fan of his Mad Max films, Year of Living Dangerously, Gallipoli, the first two Lethal Weapons, Payback, and even Chicken Run. But I just can't fuck with those films anymore because of what he fully revealed himself as.

I'd known he was an obnoxious Republican for years, and I lived with it because sometimes Republicans make good movies (I'd be less giving towards Republicans/Trump supporters now). But once he outed himself as a racist and antisemite? Nope.

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He may have been a complete nut even back then, but he was funny and IMO largely likable IMO, as his heart often seemed to be in the right place. I think he meant well.

It’s hard to listen to that old stuff now, knowing the shit he’s pulled the last however many years. I’m not listening to anybody that supports Trump. That’s just what it is. I don’t think he means well anymore.

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“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

also liking MUTT but I guess that's really a Leon Thomas song...

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If you need any help, don't. Hesitate to ask.

come out more than twenty years ago now?

I can't ride around listening to those joints.

I don't see how I would've been a chris brown fan so no big loss.

there are still some kanye songs that come up on playlists but he's mostly out of my rotation

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

with a primarily female fanbase. i was never a fan of his but he recovered fairly quickly

R. Kelly songs still slap. Kanye songs still slap.

<--- Big Baller World Order

“This nigga wont stop singing. I paid $200 and he gave me $400 worth of singing He wont stop singing”

all whole CB is still performing as she is walking to the car.


https://www.tiktok.com/@theshaderoom/video/7536276704755485966

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Dude never really went away and was willing to jump on any track. I heard dude was during features for like 50k (more credibly 100k).

I disliked him for a long time after the incident, but dude eventually won me back over with persistence.


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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

they are from VA so it worked out well until it didn’t.

Look At Me Now and She Aint You and other tracks from that FAME album

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Just showed dude could still make hits and people like Wayne and Busta could Mess with him with no repercussions.

Best two tracks from that album.

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he prolly thought it was funny.

I refuse to ever listen to that song.

and now he asking jews for forgiveness AGAIN

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What ? BW gotta have a redline even if he's a fan of Kanye.


I stumbled on that song watching a clip, someone in the comments said it was Kanye's song.

>and now he asking jews for forgiveness AGAIN

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BW seems not give a fuck about anything political.

If its hot. he dont give a damn.

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He wasted a good melody like that on some bullshit.

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so, Tory still gets play and that album ALWAYS will.

never stopped listening to CB but i don't actively play CB music cuz i'm not a fan like that.

Haven't listened to Kellz for the last 4 or 5 years, but now that i know it pays his victims...seems like i SHOULD, no?

to bump the ignition remix.



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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

one of the victims owed like $4m, another $500k set aside for a fund, and maybe additional funds for other victims but it aint all his shit forever.


(nigga gonna put out some generational ballads in 2040 smh)

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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

why shouldn't you play them more?

who cares who it pays, you like them.

not my kinda music but art is subjective

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

I'm assuming all of em, given what we know about his activities

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

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i'mma lose my shit.

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I recall someone saying Bill Withers beat his wife. Marvin Gaye beat Nona’s mom not to mention statutory rape twice and James Brown was known for 2pieceing men and women. Prince was quite the underage groomer and then there’s MJ who although was found not guilty, still left a lot of questions/concerns.

I know they’re all gone but it seems a bit off to hold the living to more cancellation standards while still bumping grooving etc to past known and possible predators. If really taken that stance. How far do we go with it and for how long?

Meaning, it's not only about how far back we go, but what all do we apply this to? Many companies mistreated our ancestors. Stores we shop at are mistreating our communities. If folks really cared about punishing and cancelling people, they wouldn't be shopping at Walmart, buying Dole pineapples, and so many other things. None of this serious.

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Noted.

if someone else doesn't listen to a song, why is it such a problem for you?




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I know most folks think they are holding the lime but its mostly performative and only applies to recent events.

I still remember when David Bowie died and they brought up his ugly and even folks on here were like “it was a long time ago!!!”

listen or don’t listen to what you want.

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>I still remember when David Bowie died and they brought up his
>ugly and even folks on here were like “it was a long time
>ago!!!”


And yep, it's just another way of punishing black "crimes" while excusing white folks for the same. This was the first sign that none of this was ever serious.

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running out the kitchen, burning dinner cuz Lay Low came up on shuffle

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>we all have things that bother us.

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If you need any help, don't. Hesitate to ask.

they were playing too much Kellz in Jersey.

https://x.com/jazzibemoody/status/2000423033086046515

Based on the original tweet, it seems like our favorite DJ, not called 15, is testing the waters to see if it's alright to play Bump & Grind again.


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do you search or do they pop up on your timeline?

I have threads and the amount of troll post are ridiculous.

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Maybe he saw this post or had the same thought and he brought up Kellz on twitter and this is one of the folks responding to him. So this popped up in my timeline.

The For You tab on twitter is mostly vile racist trolling but the Following Tab of people you curate is still more interesting than BlueSky or Threads to me.

And sometimes, some topics are better to discuss here than on Twitter (well, that used to be the case, I guess).

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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

What I meant to include as a footnote was “Canceling” only means something when you actually used to engage with someone or something, and then choose to stop because of their actions.

People love to “cancel” or boycott things that were never a meaningful part of their lives anyway. But when it comes to music, people, or anything they genuinely cherish, they suddenly find all sorts of mental gymnastics to ingnore.



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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

...yet getting paid to play Trump's inauguration is the straw that broke the camel's back for some folks?

~ 'selective demands for (ethical) rigor'

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMYhAH93PgQ

this guy got me-too'd, is not a saint...but this album means a lot to me, is beautiful...i still listen.

also, i believe in forgiveness and i believe people can redeem themselves. and often do in the end... when given the opportunity

https://youtu.be/pPRe3CUOeQE?si=ZiWBp6vHuGcXdwPm

of love. LOL.

I actually heard a 21 Savage song that Samples I Wish that was played on XM radio this weekend. I thought it interesting people think Kellz is safe to sample now.





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