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MEAT
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"You raise these kids to have a better life than the generations before"


  

          

And then you wake up one day and your 4 & 7 year old don’t know what roaches or cocabutter is and maybe they could deal with a slightly lower quality of life.

Meanwhile the four year old just up and got himself a slice of pizza last week. I respect the vision but this is still a house of asking permission little man.

Life is good.

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LOL kids are the best.
Jun 13th 2025
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I struggle with this.
Jun 13th 2025
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i try to remind myself of this frequently.
Jun 13th 2025
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Yea I was talking to a friend about something like this a year or so ago...
Jun 13th 2025
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this is a lot of the dilemna.
Jun 13th 2025
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      Yep - all of this. This was exactly what I was trying to convey.
Jun 13th 2025
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      Thank you.. I’m going to keep this in my bag
Jun 13th 2025
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           *daps*
Jun 13th 2025
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my wife and I struggle with this
Jun 13th 2025
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LOL. i've seen my son's grandma be guilty of this same thing.
Jun 13th 2025
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But like … how she not gonna even KNOW what a roach is
Jun 13th 2025
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      BREAKING GENERATIONAL CURSES!!!
Jun 13th 2025
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My kids are now at an age where they can get things themselves
Jun 13th 2025
4
luckily, because granny is in the house, she's instilled in him...
Jun 13th 2025
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Man look, grandma (MIL) COME OVER with snacks
Jun 13th 2025
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I ate crabs as a kid, but the situation was different.
Jun 13th 2025
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      unless it's a money thing
Jun 13th 2025
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      nah, just pointing out how I wasn’t introduced to crab legs as a kid
Jun 13th 2025
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           we're saying the same thing lol
Jun 16th 2025
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                salmon patties and catfish caught by my grandad was my only seafood
Jul 01st 2025
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      my wife is from the coast in NC so she ate crabs as a kid
Jun 16th 2025
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My cousin's kids be calling moths wasps!
Jun 13th 2025
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Isn't it a win that they don't know what roaches are?
Jul 01st 2025
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I feel there needs to be a balance. They don't know what whuppins are
Jul 02nd 2025
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ew @ making kids ask permission to feed themselves
Jul 01st 2025
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I get individually-wrapped snacks.
Jul 01st 2025
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i embraced the annoyances of parenting
Jul 02nd 2025
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      I respect that (embracing the annoyances of parenting)
Jul 02nd 2025
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      gotdamn Black ass negro’s
Jul 02nd 2025
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      ought to be a law, lol
Jul 02nd 2025
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      We also have to admit that part of parenting is preparing them 2 adult
Jul 02nd 2025
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           my kids still ask MOST of the time
Jul 02nd 2025
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           My little dude also aint even five yet
Jul 02nd 2025
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Eh, can't be going for seconds of pizza without eating veggies
Jul 02nd 2025
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Brew
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1. "LOL kids are the best."
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>Meanwhile the four year old just up and got himself a slice of
>pizza last week. I respect the vision but this is still a
>house of asking permission little man.
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>Life is good.

Yesterday my 3.5yo daughter said "No ! That's absolutely wrong !" to me in a discussion about what we were having for dinner, so. Toddlers don't fuck around with their food apparently. I, also, respect it.

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2. "I struggle with this."
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I'm slowly coming to understand that little man lives a different life than I did, as I intended.

smh

the idea of something and the reality of it .... the dissonance there can be jarring at times.

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3. "i try to remind myself of this frequently."
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like, my whole goal was for him to have less hardships than i did.

so sometimes, when i get irritated that he didn't do something like i did when i was a kid, i gotta remind myself that "wasn't that sort of the point?" depending on what we're talking about, of course.

  

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5. "Yea I was talking to a friend about something like this a year or so ago..."
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Fri Jun-13-25 11:32 AM by Brew

          

>so sometimes, when i get irritated that he didn't do something
>like i did when i was a kid, i gotta remind myself that
>"wasn't that sort of the point?" depending on what we're
>talking about, of course.

He and his wife were telling me and mine about how stringent he is about sit down dinners, and how his oldest daughter is kind of hard to reel in. The wife was saying how she doesn't care much, while the husband (my friend) gets really angry about it. He said it's because he remembers formal, sitdown dinners with his parents and siblings growing up. So I was basically like, I get the nostalgia, but do you think it's worth the frustration ? He didn't really answer, think he might have been offended lol. And I wasn't trying to tell him how to parent, just offering a slightly different perspective to help ease his frustration. Oh well.

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9. "this is a lot of the dilemna."
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mirror their lives like ours in some respects or deal with the different dynamics of their environments.

my view is do what's best for the long term relationship. that means acquiescing on things like your old traditions, even the 'good' ones.

if you have to hammer things home with the kids, it's likely not worth it. they'll likely grow to being around you less.

growing and being flexible in parenthood is the key for us. I've told both my kids that parenting is OJT. at different ages, I'd say this is new to me. I've never had 15 year old daughter before or a 10 year old son. I'm learning just like you are. so help me understand how I can be a better parent.

that helped open the lines communication even more.

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12. "Yep - all of this. This was exactly what I was trying to convey."
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14. "Thank you.. I’m going to keep this in my bag "
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>growing and being flexible in parenthood is the key for us.
>I've told both my kids that parenting is OJT. at different
>ages, I'd say this is new to me. I've never had 15 year old
>daughter before or a 10 year old son. I'm learning just like
>you are. so help me understand how I can be a better parent.
>
>that helped open the lines communication even more.


Parenting like a muhhhfukka

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18. "*daps*"
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gets challenging fa'sho. of course there are those do what I said moments where push back ain't helping, but other times, let's talk and see where I may have been wrong in my approach.

once they realize you're not a superhero, they start doing shit lol. when they get off track, I remind them that they're actually good kids. unlike me when I was their ages.

hell, I was still street fighting at 20.


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6. "my wife and I struggle with this"
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she loves to remind me of all the things she couldn’t do as a kid and I remind her that she didn’t enjoy the limitations and it didn’t build character. We were just broke af

The funny thing is a few years ago at a cookout my mean ass aunt from Detroit was like “you giving them candy? you soft!!!” and then immediately saying “come here baby girls, here is some candy, a pop and some chips”





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7. "LOL. i've seen my son's grandma be guilty of this same thing."
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>The funny thing is a few years ago at a cookout my mean ass
>aunt from Detroit was like “you giving them candy? you
>soft!!!” and then immediately saying “come here baby
>girls, here is some candy, a pop and some chips”

like, sometimes she'll call him into her room just so they can chill and eat snacks...but yet she'll say something about him eating snacks when we let him have something.

  

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11. "But like … how she not gonna even KNOW what a roach is"
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What in the world did I miss?

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13. "BREAKING GENERATIONAL CURSES!!!"
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4. "My kids are now at an age where they can get things themselves"
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but when I hear that pantry door open a few times I hop up like “what you doing???”

and hearing them ask when the next time I’m getting crab legs is wild

I had no idea what crab leg was until I was in college

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8. "luckily, because granny is in the house, she's instilled in him..."
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a lot of her old school, conservative manners.

he literally won't get anything out of the kitchen without asking, and he even usually asks us if he can do a lot of things in general...even after we've told him 100x he doesn't have to ask.

he's a really amazing kid and we're super lucky.

  

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10. "Man look, grandma (MIL) COME OVER with snacks"
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I’ve taken to hiding them the second she leaves (she lives like 10 minutes up the street). But then she come over here too talking about “no jumping or running” and I have to ask her if she plans on taking them kids outside (it’s hot hot in Texas) … because my rule is don’t injure yourself. You may get hurt, we can ice that, but no RECKLESS jumping and running.

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15. "I ate crabs as a kid, but the situation was different."
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My grandma lived on the NC coast and the beach where we caught the crabs was across the street.

I don't see myself ordering crabs for a child, though. I saw a family out on (what I thought was) a late night date, and both kids were eating crab legs. Not a chicken tendy in sight.

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16. "unless it's a money thing "
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>I don't see myself ordering crabs for a child, though. I saw a
>family out on (what I thought was) a late night date, and both
>kids were eating crab legs. Not a chicken tendy in sight.

there's no reason not to. I didn't grow up eating seafood like that. mostly friend catfish. but if the kiddos like it, go for it.

I want their experiences to be more open than mine were.

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19. "nah, just pointing out how I wasn’t introduced to crab legs as a kid"
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My seafood spot was Long John Silvers as a kid.

Fancy for me was Ponderosa.

Fancy to them is fine dining in New Orleans, Sedona and the Grand Canyon.



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21. "we're saying the same thing lol"
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my daughter is all about some lobster or crab. I only knew of those things from red lobster, where I'd get chicken lol.

catfish, tilapia, and salmon patties were my exposure to seafood growing up.

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23. "salmon patties and catfish caught by my grandad was my only seafood"
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20. "my wife is from the coast in NC so she ate crabs as a kid"
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and I get it, if you live close to the coast you are going to eat a shit ton of seafood because people will drive around hustling seafood they just caught for money or fam will call and tell you a shrimp man is up the street.

but I’m talking about crab legs at a restaurant or from the store.

funny story, our wedding was on the coast and my fam is from Pittsburgh. We had a cookout the next day. My fam was expecting hot dogs and hamburgers. Nah, we had fish fry, crabs, sausage and corn. They weren’t feeling it until they tasted it then it was on and poppin’

First time I went there with my wife and met her granny. They had shrimp or fish for breakfast. That was weird af for me but then I realize the ocean is RIGHT THERE. Its giving you food on the cheap. I said I would never eat Conk because it looks nasty. My wife said “you had dressing at Thanksgiving and loved it”

Me.. wait, what???

They put seafood in everything!!



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17. "My cousin's kids be calling moths wasps!"
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22. "Isn't it a win that they don't know what roaches are?"
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Like do they really NEED to know what roaches are to be grounded?


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34. "I feel there needs to be a balance. They don't know what whuppins are"
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They don't fear belts or getting hit or popped. So we got that going for us.
But dag, they should at least be able to identify a bug.

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24. "ew @ making kids ask permission to feed themselves"
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my son stayed with his aunt for a summer, she does that dumb ass ‘kitchen is closed’ shit. had the kids scared to ask for food after a certain time

screaming down the stairs “i KNOW you aint in my kitchen!!”


ugh, nigga shit

let them babies eat!

  

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25. "I get individually-wrapped snacks."
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But shit that creates dishes that kids aren't gonna wash (or wash adequately), I wouldn't want that. If I'm solo-dolo and I leave my kitchen clean, having guests that make me wake up to dishes in my sink is gonna annoy me.

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26. "i embraced the annoyances of parenting"
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its part of being a parent

i also loathed the idea of passing down generational trauma because of tradition or thats how my mama did it.
kids scared to eat food in the house they live in after a certain time is traumatic for kids

you say snacks, id rather you eat real food vs an individually wrapped snack full of junk. them dishes aint gon kill not one person, you’ll live.
besides, thats usually the main thing negroes use to justify the behavior, ”i JUST bought these snacks and they gone already”, ugh.

  

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27. "I respect that (embracing the annoyances of parenting)"
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I have to disagree with the following tho:

>kids scared to eat food in the house they live in after a
>certain time is traumatic for kids

Calling it traumatic coincides with this new age thinking that deems every inconvenience some form of trauma. What we're discussing here is simply parent-imposed discipline. Every household differs in how much it has and where it's exercised, but that's all it is.

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28. "gotdamn Black ass negro’s"
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30. "ought to be a law, lol"
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29. "We also have to admit that part of parenting is preparing them 2 adult"
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So, if you want a snack at an odd hour, clean up after yourself - because as an adult, you ain't gonna want a dirty kitchen or a house full of bugs.

I get we all breaking generational curses and trauma and all that, but SOME of the things our parents taught us were for good reason.

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31. "my kids still ask MOST of the time"
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but they will eat snacks all day and then not be hungry at dinner time.

and we are encouraging them to get their own cereal on weekends but late night eats?

Hell nah.. not yet.

Especially if you didn’t eat half your dinner.

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33. "My little dude also aint even five yet"
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He got at minimum 3 more years of asking permission for basic shit. Thems just the breaks.

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32. "Eh, can't be going for seconds of pizza without eating veggies"
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Kids and adults will eat a whole diabetes starter pack without thinking about it.
You probably got a nickname like "Yummy" huh?

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