I hate Bill Maher by the way so the fact he embraces Hogg's comment is not a plus but look how his words are characterized in the tweet then actually watch what he says.

https://x.com/Fly_Sistah/status/1921333897519923456

He isn't really even talking about young men specifically, he says by the end young people in general.

And look at these reactions?

https://x.com/Mel_Ankoly/status/1921245937592139786

Search his name on twitter and its the majority of the reaction.

When did Dems get so weirded out by the mention of sex?!?




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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

Sounds like RFK Jr. but for frat boy pussy culture.

Also see his comments that he thinks diversity is overrated - just let the people who are good at it do it - and wow they happen to mainly be men!!

We've been here before - and it was stupid.

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also i'm confused about what he's talking about in the beginning. what are people judging the young people for? what can't they say that they feel they are on eggshells?

i agree with need to concentrate on affordable housing and fair wages which I think is what he is getting at.

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>also i'm confused about what he's talking about in the
>beginning. what are people judging the young people for? what
>can't they say that they feel they are on eggshells?

They agree with Joe Rogan on almost everything - so getting laid, doing dope, talking conspiracy theories, and how the SELF MADE Man is king and poor people are shunned by god.

It's that TOXIC culture they are defending - maybe Hogg just likes 1 part of it - maybe he loves it all except guns.

And that men have to have sex and if they aren't it's someone else's fault - the 'prudes' and - but Especially - the stuck up women!!

It'd be nice if he said it.

>i agree with need to concentrate on affordable housing and
>fair wages which I think is what he is getting at.

Is he? Because he never says that. It'd be nice if he said it.

Because the Republicans are not implementing those policies.

If GETTING LAID trumps anything else then he's right - we need members of the Alpha Betas frat Stan Gable, Adam Price , and Roger Latimer to run the DNC. (Ogre is out - he had "too much empathy.")

He's 25 and he doesn't sound like the future - he sounds like the past.

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those dudes are more concerned with owning the libs than defending people’s rights and having empathy for other people.

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He plays one on TV, but he's a conservative at heart, he just has a few issues (mainly due to personal interest) that he doesn't agree with them on.

Trust and believe if Conservatives drop the 'culture war' - he'll be voting Republicon.

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he's just doing what Gavin Newsom is doing, because they recognized a vibe shift.

I don't really have an issue with what he said, its more that i dont believe he believes it... OR he does believe it and his previous role as one of the young lib scolds he's complaining about was the act

Either way it comes off phony. If dems really want to make inroads with the Rogan/Andrew Schulz set theyre gonna need a new face

Sex wasn't the only thing he mentioned.


"the democrats have become the 'judgmental party' and the two parties have 'switch places" - Hogg

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a fucking Nerds reboot

all that was needed was the hot blonde running onstage to hug him.

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And I don't know how much it sways elections.

But Obama was the cooler candidate. Same with Bill Clinton.


No saying Trump seems cool. But he doesn't come off as uptight.

My point is more about the reaction to what he said rather than what he said. Folks can disagree with him. But read some the reactions and you would think the dude is diddy.


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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

I mean.. wtf is there to be happy about these days politically?

lmao at saying the GOP is less uptight when those fucks are mad at diversity, inclusion and is breaking up families for the fuck of it.

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"lmao at saying the GOP is less uptight when those fucks are mad at diversity, inclusion and is breaking up families for the fuck of it."


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>No saying Trump seems cool. But he doesn't come off as
>uptight.


Trump is a nut. They're eating the dogs, They're eating the cats !!!!

plus the stupid dance and the non stop garbage coming from him. They are worse then uptight.


>My point is more about the reaction to what he said rather
>than what he said. Folks can disagree with him. But read
>some the reactions and you would think the dude is diddy.
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I did read some reactions and here is a good one

He is not Diddy, but Hogg sounds like the MAGA cult in this tunnel vision interview.

https://www.dailykos.com/story/2025/5/10/2321657/-Hoggs-Maher-interview

Hogg said, the democrats have become the “judgmental party” and the two parties have “switch places” that’s the bit I’m concerned with for that’s the bit that sounds like right wing talking points to me.

I will remind David Hogg that it is not the democratic party judging people. If I recall correctly, it was Republicans who attacked AOC for dancing, Harris for laughing, LGBTQIA folks for existing, Drag Queens for reading books. It is the Republicans who are banning books from Black authors, LGBTQIA authors, books about civil rights, and even banning words in some states. Hell, they have scrubbed the word diversity and respect from some sites. It is not the Democratic party removing anything (pictures/books/achievements) to dark from every existing institution in the US even artifacts in Museums.

It is not the Democrats judging breast-feeding mothers, or the sexual activities of non-straight people. It is not the Democrats judging how people (women) dress. It is not the Democrats firings Generals and other elected officials for a trans person. It is not Democrats planning to ban porn. It is not Democrats taking down the image of a plane because the name of a plane was “Gay” (edited, the plane was named after the pilot’s mother Enola Gay)

People like Hogg need to learn that asking people to mind their language when it comes to marginalized groups may be a judgment call, but it’s like asking a bully to stop bullying. Not all judgment calls are created equal. Asking to stop using the N word, is not the same as banning trans folks from the armed forces.

It is not the Democrats who are reviving the stigmatization of the neurodivergent community. Or demonizing the immigrant communities. No David Hogg, the Democrats are not the judgmental party, for that you need to look to the right. Asking people not to insult others, intentionally or not, is not the same as restricting or erasing their rights.

It is not Democrats judging women for having abortions or living their lives. It is not Democrats thinking women shouldn’t vote or work. It is Republicans.

And it is beyond ironic, that as you sit there judging the democratic party and encouraging others to do so, you have the audacity to call them judgmental because you’re being asked to consider people’s feelings when you talk, and at the same time giving a pass to the republican party by saying they are more laid back simply because they have revived hated and bigotry in speech. It is beyond disturbing in one who would see himself as an upcoming leader of the left and the progressive party to ignore all the judgment calls coming from the right as they are being put down into laws!

Now if being able to say the N word, the C word, the R word or any of those other words is more important to the youth of the United States than their rights being stripped away, I have misjudged the youth of this country.

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they want to tone police everything instead of getting shit done

and they refuse to meet the game where it's at. the republicans are playing dirty. it's past time to respond in kind.

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and storming the capital doesn’t lose an election

there is nothing you can do.

we wont even get into voter suppression.

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then you have to agree we are cooked right?

How can we not be cooked if you think there is nothing we could have done better next go round?



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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

Sure, she is more qualified and would make a great President but this country has shown they will elect a fucking criminal over a highly educated woman.

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I wouldn't call Democrats uptight as much I would compare them to the HR Department. They teach you how to use respectful language and feel good about things while the company fucks you. Like, at first you think HR is on your side, but then you realize they are there to keep you in check.

Or..."lame as hell" isn't far off.


Bottom line is that Democrats have prioritized language, norms, institutions, tradition, etc far more than actually getting shit done.

Storming the capital didn't lose the election because Democrats slow walked that shit to look respectful and honor the 'sacredness' of the DOJ.

Look what they have prioritized over the years above actually delivering on things- slow walking the Trump conviction, bowing down to the parliamentarian, etc. They even became a party that is equally pro-war. Like, do ya'll not remember what made Obama popular in the first place?

Its weird seeing you parrot Dem party excuses. You can't run a "I wouldn't change a thing!" campaign in the middle of all this shit.

"Trump bad, our institutions are good/sacred"- weather you guys like it or not just isn't enough to win an election. So is the plan to just give up?

but these conversations all go the same way. "WhyTF are you focusing on this when trump is doing X"

as the tent continues to shrink

Kamala wasn't elected. She was given 100 days to win after Biden shit himself.

I was a fan of Kamala when up against Trump. Damn near no one on here was pushing for Kamala in 2020.

The plan isn't to give up and damn sure isn't to woo young white assholes with liquor and pussy.

Part of the reason Obama won was because Sarah Palin popped up out of nowhere.

Trump beat 2 women.

Seems pretty obvious to me what you have to do to win the next election. Just run a dude and the chances go up. Stop trying to make history and run a white dude or almost white dude.

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https://currently.att.yahoo.com/news/parkland-survivor-david-hogg-ousted-132014456.html


The Independent

Parkland survivor David Hogg to be ousted from DNC following investigation into his election

Joe Sommerlad

Tue, May 13, 2025 at 9:20 AM EDT·4 min read



A Democratic National Committee panel has found that gun control activist David Hogg and a colleague were not properly elected to be among its five vice chairs earlier this year, paving the way for their removal.

Hogg, 25, rose to national prominence after surviving the mass shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida, on February 14, 2018, and co-founding March for Our Lives.

He has since become a vocal political commentator, critical of President Donald Trump and the Democratic Party’s failure to earn the trust of the electorate.

Hogg made waves last month by announcing that his new organization, Leaders We Deserve, co-founded with Kevin Lata – the former campaign manager of Florida Representative Maxwell Alejandro Frost, the first Gen-Z member of Congress – intends to support primary challengers to “out-of-touch, ineffective” House Democrats occupying safe congressional seats that, it believes, have not done enough to oppose the Trump administration.

In what has already been interpreted as an attack on that strategy, the DNC’s Credentials Committee on Monday upheld a complaint brought by Oklahoma activist Kalyn Free, who lost out on one of the vice chair positions in February 1’s elections and subsequently accused the DNC of breaking its own rules on gender diversity, potentially invalidating the elections of Hogg and Malcolm Kenyatta.

A full DNC vote will now be held on the committee’s findings, which could mean new elections being staged, with the same five candidates, including Hogg and Kenyatta, on the ballot once again.

“While this vote was based on how the DNC conducted its officers’ elections, which I had nothing to do with, it is also impossible to ignore the broader context of my work to reform the party which loomed large over this vote,” Hogg responded in a statement.

“I ran to be DNC Vice Chair to help make the Democratic Party better, not to defend an indefensible status quo that has caused voters in almost every demographic group to move away from us.

“The DNC has pledged to remove me, and this vote has provided an avenue to fast-track that effort.”

Kenyatta also reacted strongly, calling it “a slap in the face” and complaining that he had “worked a** off to get this role and have done the job every day since I’ve held it.”

He also rejected media framing of the ruling as an internal effort to oust Hogg, saying the story was not only about his colleague, “even though he clearly wants it to be.”

For his part, DNC Chairman Ken Martin said: “I am disappointed to learn that before I became chair, there was a procedural error in the February vice chair elections.


“The Credentials Committee has issued their recommendation, and I trust that the DNC members will carefully review the committee’s resolution and resolve this matter fairly.

“I thank all of our officers for their service, including Vice Chairs Kenyatta and Hogg, and look forward to continuing to work with them in their officer posts as this matter is resolved.”

Before Monday’s ruling, Martin had posted on X: “I am more committed than ever to introduce the slate of structural reforms that enshrine these values into the official rules of the Democratic Party. These reforms will require all party officers – including myself – to remain neutral in primaries.

“They will ensure no party official can abuse their position to tilt the outcome of an election. Whether you’re a challenger or an incumbent, 18 or 80, the rules must apply equally.

“Do I have opinions? Of course. But when you lead the institution tasked with calling the balls and strikes, you don’t get to also swing the bat.”

His thread could likewise be construed as a rebuke of Hogg, whose plans to put the heat under Democrats he considers complacent have ruffled the feathers of party elders, most notably Bill Clinton’s former strategist James Carville, who labelled him “a contemptible little twerp” in a NewsNation interview before changing his tune.

I think it's great to get young blood, but understand this is a man who said we should ignore identity politics and focus on young men who just want to get laid.

All in all I give him 3 years before he goes the independent/green party/DSA route.

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Maybe there are two types of people in the world: those who favor humans over ideology, and those who favor ideology over humans. I prefer humans to ideology, but right now the ideologues are winning.

but Pete seems to be the only legit white dude with some balls but since he’s gay there is no way he can win a Presidential election even though he runs circles around the GOP.

Schumer, Newsome, Hogg, Fetterman and even the VP nominee all seem to be bitch made with some serious flaws once the light are on.

Is Shapiro an option or is he also compromised?

This Hogg kid aint ready and I wouldn’t be shocked if he was next to Stein in 3 years.

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Very surprising for a billionaire, but I think he's been the most vocal against the current administration with legislative bills passed to support his positions.

I like Pete a lot, a killer speaker, but him being gay is unfortunately going to be used against him. He's gotta get at least a term in an elected federal position before we can seriously talk about him as viable candidate.

Shapiro is a little too milquetoast for me, but he's fine. I think the Jewish thing will be used against him, these racists are unending in their hate. Horrible as this sounds, and I say this as a blackity black woman, we gotta go with an amiable married white guy.

I think ultimately it'll come down to Pritzker or Andy Beshear. While Pritzker is actually more progressive imo, Andy has been a bright spot in KY's otherwise extremely terrible state politics. He's likable and bland enough for your average fly over country white voter, plus with the added bonus of being from a blood red, good ole boy state.

I do agree that a lot of the other nationally known Democratic politicians have been shit, but there absolutely have been some stars emerging. Lauren Underwood, Chris Murphy, Melanie Stansbury, Mark Kelly. We not done yet.

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Maybe there are two types of people in the world: those who favor humans over ideology, and those who favor ideology over humans. I prefer humans to ideology, but right now the ideologues are winning.

not familiar with the Dem billionaire but heard he is making some noise


Of course being a Billionaire will be used against him by the GOP.

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Pritzker and his team need to remind the purists of that as much as possible. That's one area where the left gets caught up in feel good bullshit that doesn't matter.

If Pritzker can win and deliver on things, who gives a shit about his money. And, again, FDR came from wealth.

I think Pete is scared and is waiting out for a potential VP nod. Not running for MI Senate defies logic unless you are confident you will lose. But at some point, if he wants to be pres, he has to win an actual tough election. Now that he sat out MI, I don't see that happening.

My prediction is that whatever juice Shapiro thinks he has will be gone in a few years.

Beshear's resume is interesting. I just wish he wasn't such a boring speaker.

if you saw the DNC. i watched that shit every day actually because my main discord is heavily into politics. it's no white people in this discord at all. and the primary thing that stuck out to us that the democratic party doesnt have a fly young* white guy w/ any real feature position

*young as in 35-50. young for politics

that is a MAJOR problem for the party. you can't just write that demo off wholesale like they have.

now you can say, well the Republican white guys are all lame and fake as hell. but at least they put somebody up there to fill that role.

at some point you have to meet the people where they are at and tell them what they want to hear just to get their attention. then you build from there.

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Who's the fly young guy in the Republicans? The rapist Matt Gaetz? The cousin fucker Madison Cawthorn? Literal demon Stephen Miller? No, they're all losers.

Even if we look beyond them to 'influncers' like Rogan, Tate, Schulz, Peterson none of these men are cool or fly (at least to my female born in the 80s eyes lol). They're all liars and most are straight up psychopaths whose goal is to push the narrative that men, especially white men, are the most oppressed people in America. We can meet young men without making them out to be the ultimate societal victims, as if they're the only fucking people suffering in today's economy.

I don't disagree that we should tailor our messages to our audiences, but if it means straight up lying then we need to figure something else out.

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>now you can say, well the Republican white guys are all lame
>and fake as hell. but at least they put somebody up there to
>fill that role.

we KNOW they're lame criminals. but the Dems aren't even trying to combat it with an alternative to demonstrate that. and if it's a lie then we gotta fight on that lie. but we still have to fight.

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I'm not even saying that the Dems have responded correctly, but I am saying we're not going to win the cult of personality against people who can say anything with no consequence while Dems have to show complete perfection.

And actually thinking about it you mention there's no young white male stars, but Pete Buttigieg has been making the rounds (successfully) for months, but I'm sure he won't count cause he's gay.

I will be perfectly honest and say I don't know what the answer is. I think the bigger issue is going to be combating the right wing propaganda machine, because if one side is telling you you're the victim and everyone else is 'winning', no amount of working class heros can tell you otherwise.

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Dems stutter once or laugh too long and its “unstable, drunk, etc”

to call one side laid back and fun when they are accusing Black and Brown people of being the worst people on earth and the reason their lives are fucked is wild..

I have a friend who admitted he was for Trump because Kamala wasn’t saying anything. But he isn’t for ICE breaking up families or for chaos and market manipulation.

WTF were you for?

The truth is obvious.. he doesn’t trust a woman as President.

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a group chat asking where are the fly white dudes? wtf

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but if you could look at the DNC and not realize "oh shit there is MASSIVE gap here in demo appeal" then idk what to tell you.

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because I watched the DNC and seen every demo represented.

I guess they need a white bros section next time? lol

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Trump is like a loud mouth shit talking 80’s WWF wrestler thats been fully displayed as the bad guy yet he has fans for all the foul ignant shit he says that makes them go red in the face and chuckle or they’re mentally delayed enough to think he’s the real deal.

That incel makes no sense at all. Young men and women are still having sex, probably more now especially with the poly folks. The incel just wants to spike cups at the frat party and drag some poor girl off to an unoccupied room and not have to worry about his future as a promised white man afterward.

for every poly dude fucking 3 women there are prolly a 1,000 dudes bone dry blaming women for their deserted dicks.

these dudes playing video games and blaming women for their lack of sex

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because all they have mostly ever known through their adolescence is a barrage of "men suck" liberal female messaging

don't talk to a woman at her job
don't talk to a woman at the grocery store
dont approach a woman at the gym
man vs the bear
etc etc

all men are bad but you can't say "not me, i've never done the bad stuff yall are complaining about" because then you are not being empathetic

it also doesnt help that this age group of young men had to spend 18 months or so w/o real social interaction and development because of the lockdowns

personally i'm around them daily because they make up most of the gym population. and they just truly have no idea how to approach it, and are trying to figure it out, given what they have endured narratively.

so of course large amounts of them are going to go right and listen to the folks that promote and praise them for masculinity and "being a man" even if it's toxic.

some of the kids we are able to get through to and give em a little more balance and nuance mentally. just my view from being in the field w/ it.

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but it explains the Rogan Tate thing.

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they are being told they can't treat women like shit. SMH.



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doesn't make someone an incel.

And the views that Brooklynwhat is talking about are super common and if you think those views makes someone an incel and shouldn't be in the dem party, then the tent will be too small to win elections.






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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

>doesn't make someone an incel.
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>And the views that Brooklynwhat is talking about are super
>common and if you think those views makes someone an incel and
>shouldn't be in the dem party, then the tent will be too small
>to win elections.
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you would think folks would know from dealing with women that feelings > facts and that invalidating how folks feel will never be a winning solution.

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they want to ban books that mentions sex.

they want to ban abortions, plan b, the pill... if women get pregnant, republicans are like "well you shouldn't be having sex!" they say this for even married women.

I don't understand how Democrats are the prudes.

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they want confirmation of their shitty views.

Had a guy at work tell me Canada’s healthcare is bad because he knew a guy online who told him he got real high off weed and they wouldn’t treat him at the hospital.

That was his proof.

When I repeated what he said and told him it was the dumbest fucking example I have ever heard he doubled down on it.

He also said we need a dictator like Putin because 4 or 8 years isn’t enough time to get shit done.

How do you get thru to white dudes this fucking dumb who think they are the smartest one’s in the room and they are only being held back because they are straight white men and not because they are dumb as fuck?


and we have to remember white people want to say the N word JUST because they are told they can’t say it. Feeling oppressed and shit because they can’t be misogynist or racist… how the hell do you win them over?

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I knew they were dumb but this is another level.

It's insane and ridiculous to say or think we need a dictator.

I read something where the author wrote a piece about using different

tactics to get through to them, but I don't believe anything will work.


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Sounds like mental illness gone untreated or mild retardation hidden behind a screen. Either way they dumb af.

which is how they become incels. it can be corrected if you catch it and give them the other side.

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Especially to some lost brat thats been raised on ‘you’re my special boy’ and thinks everything should just go their way?

Even if you did some dystopian type of boy/girl pairing from birth, they are going to be exactly what they are.

Also there are still plenty of young women thats down for whatever, however and with whoever, much more now than the young women in the 80’s/90’s so all that angst about just wanting to have sex and fun is some bs.

you might not like what they have to say but you have to start by hearing them because they will usually tell you what they really want by telling you what they THINK they want. which is mostly just to be successful professionally, respected by men and loved by women at the end of the day.

but that's harder than just telling folks you're wrong, youre a deplorable and casting them out like liberals do.

nobody said it was going to be easy but we (unfortunately) have to put in the hard yards on this instead of just conceding that X amount of the population is lost.

really this sounds corny but it reminds me of the quote from the Black Panther movie. The child who is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel it's warmth.

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Thinking of all the 18&older young men I know, sons, cousins, students etc and very few are having this problem of not finding a wife, girlfriend or sneakylink. But I dont think its a matter of politics but as with everything else online its highlighted to seem like a super big thing.

Also not all young women are subscribing to the ‘bear/man’ diatribe. I have yet to see relationships fall off or any heterosexual woman to swear off men because of it.

Who are these young men that really feel like they cant have sex and fun? What is their common hang up cause it cant be all young women.

You really think thats the case? Seems like its even more easier to hookup especially with hookup apps and sites, and prostitution is still a big business.

the rejection rates are sky high for men.

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Some women’s too.

It’s probably more of an issue with them playing out of their league. Use to be a time when folks knew they were ugly but knew how to balance it with game or charm. But thats also part of knowing your strengths and weaknesses and taking responsibility which most ‘everybody gets a trophy’ babies don't get?

statistically and anecdotally. Gen Z is a lot more conservative sexually and socially than previous gens. Add in 18 months of social isolation and stagnation as well.

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I would think Gen X was more reserved given the AIDs epidemic and our hook-up apps being party lines. There was also more stigmas placed on young women for having sex less than 3-4 dates and dudes stayed blabbing about their conquest and knocking young women for having sex with them.

Now days it seems semi-hippie times but with a plethora of labels for whatever sexual connection they agree to participate in.

Gen X was OUT IN THESE STREETS and at CLUBS getting it in.


In college.. everybody was fucking.

I think your views are a bit skewed. If we had 90’s clubbing AND dating apps it would’ve been a problem for real but I think you have a skewed view of these dating apps.

A lot of dudes on their getting no swipes.

At least at the club you could have on a fresh pair and some smell good. Even if you swung and missed you were in the game at the club.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

We had the clubs, hs, college and party lines. They have those plus countless apps.
So how they not getting it on more than Gen X is baffling to me.

Dudes who werent fucking in the 90’s are likely the same type of dudes staying dry in the 2020’s. They just have more ways to group up and publicly complain about it vs putting the work in to step up their game.