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PROMO
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"Federal Worker Buyout"


  

          

from Huffington Post:

Trump’s Buyout Email To Federal Workers: ‘Fork In The Road’
In a Tuesday evening email titled “Fork In The Road,” President Donald Trump offered buyouts to hundreds of thousands of federal workers.

The email, which HuffPost obtained from a federal employee and which has also circulated online, gives public servants until Feb. 6 to participate in the resignation program, with instructions to “type the word 'resign' into the body of this reply email” and “Hit 'send.'”

Anyone who accepts the buyout will receive a paycheck through the end of September.

“If you choose not to continue in your current role in the federal workforce, we thank you for your service to your country and you will be provided with a dignified, fair departure from the federal government utilizing a deferred resignation program,” the email from the Office of Personnel Management reads.

“Whichever path you choose, we thank you for your service to The United States of America.”

  

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This is all stupid and I hope no one falls for it...
Jan 28th 2025
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oh i agree. but i'm not holding out hope.
Jan 28th 2025
2
you’d be surprised. i seen a conservative coworker offer up his own jo...
Jan 28th 2025
4
Good luck getting a check for the next 8 mos from Trump Inc
Jan 28th 2025
3
Yep. Tim Kaine said it.
Jan 29th 2025
6
"Fork in the Road" has been recycled from Elon's Twitter cuts.
Jan 28th 2025
5
ABC News spoke to a federal employee who accepted the buyout offer.
Feb 04th 2025
7
That person made a huge mistake
Feb 04th 2025
8
      you big dummy!!!
Feb 04th 2025
9
      We'll see what happens when/if the Govt shuts down next month
Feb 04th 2025
10
      not really. they were gonna quit anyway.
Feb 04th 2025
11
At least 20,000 federal workers have taken Trump's buyout offer
Feb 06th 2025
12
Liz Goggin took the offer before learning her position was exempt.
Feb 16th 2025
13

Doomdata21
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Tue Jan-28-25 07:56 PM

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1. "This is all stupid and I hope no one falls for it..."
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I follow that Fednews subreddit and there is a $25K limit to severance that the government can give out. That's PRE-taxes. No one should trust him to pay. He is trying to eliminate our government infrastructure en masse and I hope he fails spectacularly as we should all hope.

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PROMO
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2. "oh i agree. but i'm not holding out hope."
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seasoned vet
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Tue Jan-28-25 08:39 PM

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4. "you’d be surprised. i seen a conservative coworker offer up his own jo..."
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ive shared this story before:

political debate at work, we were all federal civil service employees. some issue was going on with our union and the furlough, the conservative, agitated with unions in general because he’s a conservative suggested we get rid of unions. someone pointed out without unions you wouldn't have a job, he thought on it a second and said “GOOD! ill find another one!”

yeah between kamikaze civilian conservatives and the mix of fear and ignorance in far too many, i can see a good amount of people sending that resign reply.

  

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LAbeathustla
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Tue Jan-28-25 07:59 PM

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3. "Good luck getting a check for the next 8 mos from Trump Inc"
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6. "Yep. Tim Kaine said it."
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Mans been stiffing his contractors and grifting his entire life. But sure, trust him to make good on this.

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JayEmm
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Tue Jan-28-25 09:20 PM

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5. ""Fork in the Road" has been recycled from Elon's Twitter cuts."
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In fact, the tone is nearly identical: https://ibb.co/BVzQRmsY

"From: Elon Musk

To: Team

Subj. A Fork in the Road

Date: Nov. 16, 2022

Going forward, to build a breakthrough Twitter 2.0 and succeed in an increasingly competitive world, we will need to be extremely hardcore. This will mean working long hours at high intensity. Only exceptional performance will constitute a passing grade.

Twitter will also be much more engineering-driven. Design and product management will still be very important and report to me, but those writing great code will constitute the majority of our team and have the greatest sway.

At its heart, Twitter is a software and servers company, so l think this makes sense.

If you are sure that you want to be part of the new Twitter, please click yes on the link below:



Anyone who has not done so by 5pm ET tomorrow (Thursday) will receive three months of severance.

Whatever decision you make, thank you for your efforts to make Twitter successful.

Elon"

  

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7. "ABC News spoke to a federal employee who accepted the buyout offer."
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https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/federal-worker-accepts-trumps-deferred-resignation-offer/story?id=118412617

  

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Sofian_Hadi
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8. "That person made a huge mistake"
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They're already changing the wording of the emails to say you have to keep working through the end of the month and you can't file or take part in any lawsuits.

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legsdiamond
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9. "you big dummy!!! "
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not you, the fed worker..

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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Doomdata21
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10. "We'll see what happens when/if the Govt shuts down next month"
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The continuing resolution ends on March 14th... all bets are off then. There are no discernible details either. These people are rubes. I can only believe they're not dumb if they were retiring in the immediate future.

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PROMO
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11. "not really. they were gonna quit anyway."
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this is just an easy out for them, and if you're gonna quit anyway, you're not gonna feel forced out where you wanna sue.

all that said, fuck anyone responsible for this shit.

  

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12. "At least 20,000 federal workers have taken Trump's buyout offer"
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is this link ok RJCC?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/02/04/trump-buyout-offer-federal-workers-deadline/78208851007/

  

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13. "Liz Goggin took the offer before learning her position was exempt."
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Sun Feb-16-25 01:06 PM by seasoned vet

  

          

https://www.npr.org/2025/02/14/nx-s1-5296910/trump-federal-workers-fork-resign-buyout

A federal worker tried to take Trump's 'Fork' resignation offer. Here's what happened

Andrea Hsu
February 14, 2025
8:14 AM ET

Liz Goggin, a licensed clinical social worker with the Veterans Health Administration (VA), accepted the Trump administration's deferred resignation offer before learning she was exempt.
Liz Goggin, a licensed clinical social worker with the Veterans Health Administration, accepted the Trump administration's deferred resignation offer before her agency said her position was exempt.
Justine Kenin/NPR
The "Fork in the Road" email arrived in Liz Goggin's inbox around 11 p.m. on Jan. 28.

The email blast from the U.S. Office of Personnel Management (OPM) went to nearly all federal employees — some 2.3 million people across the U.S.

The memo presented federal workers with a choice: Offer your resignation by Feb. 6, in exchange for pay and benefits through the end of September. Or remain in your position, with the understanding that you may be laid off.

Goggin is among roughly 75,000 federal employees who agreed to resign, according to OPM. But she is also one of an unknown number of people who have since learned they can't take the deal, because their positions are exempt.

Even as a federal judge has cleared the way for the Trump administration's deferred resignation program to go forward, there remains much confusion over who agreed to exactly what — and what they'll get in return.

Goggin still has her job, for now.

"But like, who knows?" she says, "I had regrets about telling my supervisor given the whole thing is kind of unraveling."

A good offer "in the abstract"

By the time Goggin received the "Fork in the Road" offer, her household was already in upheaval. The Trump administration's freeze on foreign aid was directly impacting her husband's position with a nongovernmental organization.

"It became pretty clear that he was very likely to lose his job," says Goggin, a scary prospect given the couple has two young children and a mortgage.

She wasn't immediately drawn to the resignation offer.

"My initial reaction, honestly, was kind of like fear," she says. "If a lot of people take this, what's going to happen to services — both at my place of work at the VA, but also other agencies that are doing important work?"

Like many federal employees, she was also a bit skeptical of the deal.

But in the days that followed, OPM issued an FAQ clarifying that employees who resigned wouldn't be expected to work during the "deferred resignation period" and would be allowed to get a second job.

"In the abstract, it did sound like a good offer," she says. "My husband and I talked about it, and if this offer was legitimate, it seemed like, wow... I could potentially be making double salary for six months, which would give him some time to regroup and find a job he cares about."

That weekend, she made her decision. She replied to the original email with the word "Resign" and hit send.

The following week, in an effort to be transparent, Goggin emailed her supervisor about her decision.

But a few days later, she got another surprise in her inbox: an email from the VA, exempting scores of positions from the resignation offer, including social workers.

"Which didn't surprise me," says Goggin. "Of course, the VA is a health care agency trying to fulfill its mission."

A mission at odds with Trump's executive actions?

Goggin originally came to the VA through a postgraduate fellowship, where she worked with incarcerated veterans. The experience was so rewarding she decided to stay.

These days, she works with veterans of all ages, including Vietnam War vets as well as those who deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan.

"Their life experiences are quite unique, and they also have a lot of worldly intelligence, having kind of been scattered all over the planet serving their country," she says.

Most of her current clients are Black. As a White clinician, she says, she relies on trainings and discussions with colleagues to work through issues and figure out how to provide the best care. She says those sessions increase her awareness and understanding of other people's experiences, including how they may be impacted by racism and other forms of oppression.

But since President Trump's second term began, people have been pulled from trainings and discouraged from gathering to discuss such topics.

"At this point, those meetings aren't happening," she says.

She even wonders whether support groups for her clients, centered around race and gender, can continue.

Challenging social injustices while respecting individuals' inherent dignity and worth are core values of social work, embedded in the profession's code of ethics.

Now, Goggin worries whether social workers at the VA will be able to abide by that code, given Trump's executives actions to end diversity, equity and inclusion initiatives and to recognize male and female as the only two sexes.

"There's been some vagueness as to what this actually means," she says. "I think the atmosphere has been pretty tense, and people are really uncertain and questioning like, what is OK now?"

She says she doesn't know what this means for the future. And she's worried about that.

  

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