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Numba_33
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"ICE offices have DAILY quotas to make 75 arrests per day"


  

          

According to an article on The Gothamist (which uses an article from the Washington Post for its source), each ICE office in the country was recently given a DAILY quota to make 75 arrests per day.

The quota was handed down because Agent Orange wasn't pleased with the supposedly low number of arrests since being placed in office.

There are 25 ICE offices in the country; do the math and these will be some dark, morbid days ahead.

For folks that are interested, here's a link to the Gothamist article: https://gothamist.com/news/ny-nj-immigration-enforcement-offices-now-have-quotas-its-75-arrests-a-day-or-else-report-says

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Then did raids in warehouses in my area this weekend
Jan 27th 2025
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Pretty easy to make 75 dubious arrests a day.
Jan 27th 2025
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reminds me of a thing I watched recently on El Salvador
Jan 27th 2025
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El Salvador is a whole separate thing
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      Yeah, I agree with all of this about El Salvador
Jan 27th 2025
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      I hear that. the quota thing popped it in my head
Jan 28th 2025
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they're snatching folks outta churches and and somebody
Jan 27th 2025
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A majority of Latin Men in Texas and Arizona voted for Trump
Jan 28th 2025
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Latino men fall for the same rhetoric as white men.
Jan 28th 2025
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Imagine having so little to offer society that you become an ICE agent l...
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Reports of Indigenous people being questioned and detained during immigr...
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This is quite perverse.
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      ^^^^ hard to put into words the cognitive dissonance ...
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      Exactly
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Is there a credible source for this?
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RE: Is there a credible source for this?
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1. "Then did raids in warehouses in my area this weekend"
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Strangely, they avoided the Amazon warehouse.

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2. "Pretty easy to make 75 dubious arrests a day."
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Not that anyone in charge will care as long as the numbers look good.

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3. "reminds me of a thing I watched recently on El Salvador"
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The new president has been praised for finally locking up all of the ms-13 and 18th street gang members and putting them in these high tech extreme brand new prisons where they're literally herded like cattle. looked like something out of a dystopian sci-fi movie.

Residents interviewed were really happy that the streets are safer, their kids who they were afraid to even let outside are now going back to school, because things were really bad

Problem is there are only so many gang members and the police have a daily quota, so now they're arresting anyone and making them wait 2 years for a trial while they stay locked up, because so many people work in law enforcement and these mega prisons that its the only way to keep the system flowng

  

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5. "El Salvador is a whole separate thing"
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the situation is very unique, since the population is much smaller and gangs aren't financially backed with drug money. they are low-level extorters.

also, nobody gave a shit when the gangs were running the country and killing civilians daily -- so I think it is plainly ridiculous we have all these articles complaining about civil liberty, while it was crickets when innocent people were the ones suffering from the highest murder rate in the world for decades.

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6. "Yeah, I agree with all of this about El Salvador "
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I also wonder, just out of curiosity how many El Salvadorans are leaving El Salvador and coming to the US now that most of the gangs have been locked up. Extortion and murder was rampant by the gangs, which was a motivating factor for people to leave.

  

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7. "I hear that. the quota thing popped it in my head "
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because I had seen it recently


  

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4. "they're snatching folks outta churches and and somebody "
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working at the airport.

so disrespectful.

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8. "A majority of Latin Men in Texas and Arizona voted for Trump"
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13. "Latino men fall for the same rhetoric as white men."
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Hispanic and Latino Americans are far from being a unified voting block and the various subsets of Latino ethnicity harbor deep racist views against other subsets. I’m Puerto Rican and intra-community racism runs very deep within our community. PR men are equally as susceptible to race-baiting as white men, so justifying their vote for Trump is easy because he’s not talking about "them" - he's talking about “the other Latinos”. The Hispanic and Latino population in Texas and Arizona is obviously predominantly Mexican. What's less obvious is that many Mexican men think of Central Americans - especially the "undocumented" - as exactly what Trump describes them as.

The other reasons are far more simple to explain. The biggest concern this election cycle for many Americans was about keeping food on the table and a roof overhead. They simply worried about losing their jobs. Employers already hired Latinos for their positions, so they would naturally look for other Latinos as cheaper replacements. This is especially true for young Latino men in manual labor jobs; they are particularly vulnerable to being undercut by cheaper labor.


  

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9. "Imagine having so little to offer society that you become an ICE agent l..."
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10. "Reports of Indigenous people being questioned and detained during immigr..."
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https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/27/us/navajo-detained-ice-indigenous-immigration-trump/index.html


Navajo Nation leaders raise alarm over reports of Indigenous people being questioned and detained during immigration sweeps


At least 15 Indigenous people in Arizona and New Mexico have reported being stopped at their homes and workplaces, questioned or detained by federal law enforcement and asked to produce proof of citizenship during immigration raids since Wednesday, according to Navajo Nation officials.

The reports, which have caused panic amongst tribal communities in both states, come amid the Trump administration’s attempt to ramp up undocumented immigrant arrests nationwide and amass a larger force to carry out the president’s deportation pledge. CNN has reached out to the White House for comment.

The reported raids and the exact number of Diné/Navajo and other Indigenous tribal citizens who were apprehended are still under investigation, Navajo Nation Council Speaker Crystalyne Curley told CNN. It is unclear if Immigration and Customs Enforcement or other law enforcement entities were conducting the apprehensions. ICE has not responded to CNN’s request for comment.

Navajo Nation officials have contacted the Department of Homeland Security, the governors of Arizona and New Mexico, and ICE to address the reports, the Office of Navajo President Buu Nygren said in a news release Friday.

“My office has received multiple reports from Navajo citizens that they have had negative, and sometimes traumatizing, experiences with federal agents targeting undocumented immigrants in the Southwest,” Nygren said in the release.

Justin Ahasteen, executive director of the Navajo Nation Washington Office, said his office has not confirmed any reports of ICE action against Navajo citizens.

According to Ahasteen, one tribal member was involved in a raid in Phoenix. Ahasteen told CNN the incident was a “wrong place, wrong time” situation and the tribal member, who presented their tribal identification and was questioned while in custody, was not the intended target.

The person was released, Ahasteen said.

CNN has also contacted New Mexico State Police, the Navajo County Sheriff’s Office and the Navajo Nation Police Department for comment.

Arizona state Sen. Theresa Hatathlie, who is Diné/Navajo, told CNN she received a report from the family of a Navajo woman who said she was questioned by ICE and asked to show proof that she was Native after her workplace was raided Wednesday morning.

The woman says she was at her work site in Scottsdale, Arizona, when she and seven other Indigenous citizens were lined up behind white vans and questioned for two hours without their cell phones or a way to contact their families, according to Hatathlie.

“Now is it ICE or some other entity, I don’t know,” said Hatathlie, who represents Legislative District 6, which encompasses the Navajo Nation. “I did work with some individuals to confirm whether or not ICE did do that work site raid, but the communication back to me was that it’s not a normal practice for ICE to confirm a raid or not.”

The woman says she was eventually permitted to use her cell phone and text family members, who sent her a photo of her Certificate of Degree of Indian Blood (CDIB), and she was then allowed to leave, Hatathlie said. It is unclear what happened to the seven other Indigenous people who were questioned.

The Navajo Nation Council received the reports through social media and calls to council delegates from families who said they were visited by ICE at their apartments and place of work, Curley said.

“There’s a lot of fear, and I know they’re probably feeling frustrated knowing that they don’t feel safe in the country where they were born or where their ancestors come from and there’s a lot of frustration of them being stereotyped,” Curley told CNN.

“I think there’s a confusion with other races, maybe just because having a brown skin, automatically being profiled or stereotyped to be in a certain group of race.”

Hatathlie pointed to the double standard of Indigenous people welcoming settlers who later colonized their lands, forced Native children into violent boarding schools and banned displays of Native cultural practices, only to be victims of practices such as immigration raids – when the law enforcement officials’ ancestors were immigrants themselves, she said.

”If you can’t say, ‘we’ve been here for time immemorial,’ then you’re an immigrant. You’re not from here, so who are you to classify our Indigenous people? These lands have been a melting pot for many ethnicities,” Hatathlie said.

“It’s too kind to say it’s racism or discrimination. It’s disrespect for humanity.”

Indigenous people urged to carry their documentation
Operation Rainbow Bridge, a nonprofit that supports Navajo citizens who are victims of Medicaid fraud in Arizona, has launched the Immigration Crisis Initiative to assist Indigenous people impacted by federal law enforcement raids.

Diné, which means “The People” and is how Navajo people refer to themselves, and other Indigenous tribal members are being advised to carry state-issued identification along with their Certificate of Degree of Indian Blood in preparation of possible run ins with federal immigration officials and other law enforcement.

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The initiative has a hotline for people to call so Diné and other Indigenous citizens who are being questioned or detained can call for immediate assistance, and to help government officials identify the documents they are being presented with.

Although a person might be carrying their certificates and tribal identification cards, many of the reports said the agents who detained or questioned them didn’t acknowledge the documents as valid proof of citizenship, Hatathlie said.

“With the way things are going right now and these types of situations, we have to put measures in place in order to help our constituents and government entities so that they can be a resource,” Hatathlie said.

“Tribes should communicate to Homeland Security and say, ‘This is a sample of our travel enrollment card. This is the sample of our Certificate of Indian Blood. If you have any questions to verify, here is a hotline. Here is a website,’” Hatathlie added.

The Navajo Nation Office of the President released a tip guide for Diné who are confronted by immigration agents. The guide advises them to request to see the agents’ identification to confirm their legitimacy, exercise their right to remain silent and speak to an attorney if they are arrested or detained, and to document the interaction if possible so they can later report the encounter.

Navajo Nation officials urged Diné and other Indigenous tribal citizens to apply for tribal ID cards, such as the Navajo Nation Identification card, if they don’t have one. Families are also being urged to educate their children on the ongoing incidents.

The guidance also advises against opening their doors if immigration agents show up at their homes without showing a valid warrant signed by a judge.

“Some public sites, organizations, and restaurants are being raided by ICE,” Operation Rainbow Bridge states on its website. “As a precaution, your children should memorize your phone number and their (Social Security Number), and everyone should have current, valid documentation on them” including Social Security cards, Navajo Nation Identification cards, Certificate of Degree of Indian Blood or passports, according to the statement.

‘No one is illegal on stolen land’
For Indigenous peoples who inhabited the Americas for thousands of years before the colonization of their lands and the brutal treatment of their people, the recent sweeps have reopened old wounds.

Diné elder James Jackson, an honored activist in the Navajo community, told CNN the recent immigration raids and their impact on his community are “shameful.”

“It’s making people hyperaware of their surroundings, limiting their travel in their daily lives because they worry they will get stopped,” said Jackson, who lives in Tuba City between the four Sacred Mountains of Navajo 90 miles north of Flagstaff, Arizona.

Although he worries for his community, Jackson says he also feels anger on behalf of immigrants from other countries who came to the US to escape violence and economic hardship for the sole sake of their families’s survival.

“No one is illegal on stolen land,” Jackson said. “It really goes back to the Indigenous way of life, that everything is made for the people. People have to understand that this is not the way to live or to be honorable and neighborly with each other.”

US Army soldiers patrol the US-Mexico border at Eagle Pass, Texas, on January 24, 2025. US President Donald Trump ordered 1,500 more military personnel to the border with Mexico as part of a flurry of steps to tackle immigration, his spokeswoman said on January 22. Border security is a key priority for the president, who declared a national emergency at the US frontier with Mexico on his first day in office, and the additional personnel will bring the total number of active-duty troops deployed there to around 4,000.
Anti-immigration tactics like the recent raids, Hatathlie and Jackson said, go against Indigenous values and their ways of life which allowed Native people to prosper and live in harmony with the land for thousands of years before American colonization.

“We always talk about the environment and how we belong to the earth,” Hatathlie said. “That sets the groundwork for having respect for what’s around us, especially for our children and our great grandchildren, and they’re the future.”

There are concerns for the safety of multiple Native tribes who live in areas near the border, including Tohono O’odham, who have been in the Sonoran Desert for thousands of years and live on both sides, regularly traveling back and forth, Jackson said.

The reported raids have triggered panic and anger stemming from generational trauma endured by Native people whose ancestors and elders like Jackson had to fight to take back mere fragments of their land and reclaim their language and culture, which they had so long been forbidden from practicing, according to Hatathlie.

“We’ve come a long way building relations, but these initiatives of the current administration are a huge step backwards,” Hatathlie said. “These are the attitudes and the mindset of privileged individuals.”

“The settlers showed up sick, they were hungry, they were lost, and then all of a sudden, they were given a place to eat and sleep, and they ended up taking more than than they were provided,” she said. “They wore out the welcome mat at this point.”

CNN’s Andi Babineau contributed to this report.

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14. "This is quite perverse."
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The entitlement that comes with harassing indigenous people over immigration rights of all things is so wild.

This almost reads like something from a dystopian work of fiction; sad that this is reality.

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15. "^^^^ hard to put into words the cognitive dissonance ..."
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... required in order to continue to back an administration doing some shit like this. Mindblowing. Disgusting. All of the things.

I am completely overwhelmed today.

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16. "Exactly"
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It's insane and sop for them.

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11. "Is there a credible source for this?"
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Mississippi debates the idea of a bounty for "undocumented" immigrants.

https://www.cbs42.com/regional/mississippi-news/mississippi-bill-would-pay-bounty-hunters-to-catch-undocumented-immigrants/

Just looked at exit polls and latinos voted for Trump so shame them democrat shills, operatives, and voters.

"WE" send out thoughts and prayers for everyone hoping for the best. Not putting on the cape for anyone and remember all of the disrespect from this group over the past four years.

If that bounty program goes nationwide get ready for mass snitching.

No empathy for white misery (c) BDot

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12. "RE: Is there a credible source for this?"
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>Mississippi debates the idea of a bounty for "undocumented"
>immigrants.
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>https://www.cbs42.com/regional/mississippi-news/mississippi-bill-would-pay-bounty-hunters-to-catch-undocumented-immigrants/
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>Just looked at exit polls and latinos voted for Trump so shame
>them democrat shills, operatives, and voters.
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>"WE" send out thoughts and prayers for everyone hoping for the
>best. Not putting on the cape for anyone and remember all of
>the disrespect from this group over the past four years.
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>If that bounty program goes nationwide get ready for mass
>snitching.

Mass snitching? Mass shootings

  

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