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Numba_33
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"NYC subway rider died after being set on fire"


  

          

Link below from an article from BBC News as apparently this is literally international news: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/clygk48nxgzo

What a terrible way to go out for the victim. Reading conflicting versions of the story regarding whether or not the victim was sleeping at the time. Also have to wonder if she was doused with something to accelerate the fire.

Seeing as how this is going to make the World News broadcasts on TV, I have to imagine the fact the alleged suspect was a migrant is going to be presented heavily. Also somewhat interesting that cameras that were installed in subways cars this year if I'm not mistaken supposedly help to catch the alleged suspect.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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horrible man.
Dec 23rd 2024
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NY governor tone def af
Dec 23rd 2024
2
That Guardian article was quite thorough
Dec 24th 2024
14
Defund the police
Dec 23rd 2024
3
wait, what does a progressive DA have to do with this?
Dec 23rd 2024
4
Might not apply to this case, but DA's letting violent criminals...
Dec 24th 2024
16
as stupid as I think that slogan is
Dec 23rd 2024
5
yeah how NO ONE even tried to do anything sucks.
Dec 24th 2024
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      such a depressing look at humanity all around
Dec 24th 2024
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      oh, no, the person fanning her was her killer.
Dec 24th 2024
11
           Oh man
Dec 24th 2024
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      Everything on subway trains and stations are locked away
Dec 24th 2024
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      this is what i surmised.
Dec 24th 2024
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      right narrative is Daniel Penny effect
Dec 24th 2024
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           I could see saying this if the initial act was in a crowded car
Dec 24th 2024
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                this:
Dec 24th 2024
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                This incident occurred
Dec 24th 2024
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                     nothing known about the victim yet, right?
Dec 24th 2024
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                          Theyre saying its a homeless elderly Black woman...nm
Dec 24th 2024
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                               damn
Dec 24th 2024
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please expound on this
Dec 24th 2024
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      LMAO, that broke ass dumb fuck has never even been to NYC
Dec 26th 2024
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           y'all got some serious hate
Dec 26th 2024
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                fr this has to be the longest running okp beef
Dec 27th 2024
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                funny thing is I never reply to him first
Dec 27th 2024
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                wasnt quite expecting his reply lol sheesh
Dec 27th 2024
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incidents like these are why ppl like Daniel Penny get acquitted
Dec 24th 2024
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He says he doesn't remember
Dec 26th 2024
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PROMO
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1. "horrible man."
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i hope that he and she were the only people on the car because if there where other passengers that didn't do anything....they should go to jail too, idc.

and, idc who the victim and perp were, it doesn't have shit to do with it and the narratives that will get spun, this is just pure depravity/mental illness.

  

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Mynoriti
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2. "NY governor tone def af"
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https://x.com/GovKathyHochul/status/1870932469266190412?t=OSFigi4frclDZKS_iCAn5Q&s=19

Apparently tweeted 8 hours after it happened
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/dec/23/kathy-hochul-subway-crime

  

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Numba_33
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14. "That Guardian article was quite thorough"
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It even had a quote from one of Cuomo's cronies.

This attack truly has been international news.

Wonder how deep under the jail that attacker will get thrown. Damn shame he was even in this country to begin with since he was initially deported and was here illegally.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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Amritsar
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3. "Defund the police "
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Oh this still a bad time for that?

Progressive DAs have been an abject failure for our cities. Holy shit

  

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PROMO
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4. "wait, what does a progressive DA have to do with this?"
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16. "Might not apply to this case, but DA's letting violent criminals..."
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...off easy or with no charges at all, just for them to go out and commit more or worse crimes. Where I live it's been noticeable, like people arrested for assault or murder having long rap sheets without any time served or other repercussions.

Not sure if it's a progressive vs. conservative DA thing tho because it seems to happen all over the US nowadays.

Also, if the guy that set the fire was never arrested then the DA has nothing to do with this.

  

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Mynoriti
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5. "as stupid as I think that slogan is"
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Mon Dec-23-24 10:55 PM by Mynoriti

  

          

that video of cops just calmly walking by while she burns alive is.. something

  

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6. "yeah how NO ONE even tried to do anything sucks. "
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i mean, i heard they did get a fire extinguisher eventually, but where was it? how far?

i've never been on the NYC subway system. to my rational brain, they'd be all over the train, but then i guess people would find a way to get ahold of them and spray them around...so there's none on the trains????

  

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Mynoriti
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7. "such a depressing look at humanity all around "
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people just on their phones like ohh shit like it's a schoolyard fight or something.

one person lightly fanning her as cops walk by nonchalantly like she's just a tree or something.

you'd like to think people would be taking their coats off trying to put it out or scrambling for water.

I get citizens freezing up, im not gonna pretend id be the one person stepping up because its so surreal, but the cops being that chill is next level.. jesus

  

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11. "oh, no, the person fanning her was her killer."
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so, truly psychotic and/or mentally ill.

  

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Mynoriti
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13. "Oh man"
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now it makes sense but, jesus

  

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8. "Everything on subway trains and stations are locked away"
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Tue Dec-24-24 10:37 AM by flipnile

          

>i've never been on the NYC subway system. to my rational
>brain, they'd be all over the train, but then i guess people
>would find a way to get ahold of them and spray them
>around...so there's none on the trains????

There are storage panels on some trains, but they are locked up. The cop would need a key to get to them (I'd hope that transit cops would have the keys... the ones in Philly do).

Yeah, if they were accessible they'd last a few days before people (mentally ill, addicts, teens and grown dickheads) would be spraying them randomly, stealing them or throwing them into the tracks, etc.

  

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12. "this is what i surmised. "
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>Yeah, if they were accessible they'd last a few days before
>people (mentally ill, addicts, teens and grown dickheads)
>would be spraying them randomly, stealing them or throwing
>them into the tracks, etc.

sort of a catch 22 i guess but i feel like fire safety would trump this in some sort of way, or should?

  

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9. "right narrative is Daniel Penny effect"
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people didn't help because they did not want to be treated like Daniel Penny.

which didn't make sense. help the woman on fire, not kill someone

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17. "I could see saying this if the initial act was in a crowded car"
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while people just looked on

as far as I know it was just them or very few people

but to say Daniel Penney is why the cops are just ho-hum while she burns makes no sense

  

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18. "this:"
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>but to say Daniel Penney is why the cops are just ho-hum while
>she burns makes no sense

like, try to smother the flames with your police jacket...something?!?!?

  

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19. "This incident occurred "
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around 7 AM on a Sunday morning based on the number of articles I've read. Those are off peak hours in general for mass transit.

News articles won't mention this detail, but I also want to add that this past Sunday here in NYC was the coldest its been since probably January or February, which lessens the amount of people that would have been out and about that time of day.

I'd be shocked if there would have been a crowd of people on that subway car when the incident occurred.

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20. "nothing known about the victim yet, right?"
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Tue Dec-24-24 03:41 PM by Mynoriti

  

          

I know there's a fake AI one going around of the young white girl which seems to fit the agenda of a certain demo

I'm wondering what the level of interest drop will be when it's discovered she's a homeless black woman, or an undocumented hispanic woman

  

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21. "Theyre saying its a homeless elderly Black woman...nm"
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>I know there's a fake AI one going around of the young white
>girl which seems to fit the agenda of a certain demo
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>I'm wondering what the level of interest drop will be when
>it's discovered she's a homeless black woman, or an
>undocumented hispanic woman

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22. "damn"
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10. "please expound on this"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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23. "LMAO, that broke ass dumb fuck has never even been to NYC"
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but he's here espousing breitbart / ring wing bullshit and acting like he knows how transit police operate, or lackthere of

asking his kind (pind kuttar) to expound on that is like asking a monkey to comprehend physics

(this is where he replies with some personal shit, bc hes mad I turned down his IG friend request and becasue I excluded him from real life OKP meetups)

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25. "y'all got some serious hate"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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26. "fr this has to be the longest running okp beef"
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27. " funny thing is I never reply to him first "
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I just laugh and ridicule his absurdly idiotic QANON/ breitbart comments on geopolitics and sports and he gets weirdly personal (or tries )

But right wing misogynist bigots , like him deserve to mocked and humiliated often.




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28. "wasnt quite expecting his reply lol sheesh"
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15. "incidents like these are why ppl like Daniel Penny get acquitted"
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24. "He says he doesn't remember "
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I havent seen any extra police presence in the trains, and I was on them all weekend giving visiting family members tours of Brooklyn and Manhattan, I have never seen as many tourists around the holidays in almost 2-3 years


https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/man-accused-fatally-setting-new-york-city-subway-rider-fire-says-doesn-rcna185363



The suspect allegedly set her on fire with a lighter, and once the victim became engulfed in flames, Zapeta-Calil continued "fanning the flames with a shirt,” a prosecutor said.

Zapeta-Calil later told police that “he drinks a lot of liquor" and "doesn’t know what happened,” the prosecutor added.

Zapeta-Calil used a translator to help him understand the court action on Tuesday and he appeared to be wearing the same white Tyvek suit he had on when New York police officers first walked him out of a police station in front of waiting cameras.



>Link below from an article from BBC News as apparently this
>is literally international news:
>https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/clygk48nxgzo
>
>What a terrible way to go out for the victim. Reading
>conflicting versions of the story regarding whether or not the
>victim was sleeping at the time. Also have to wonder if she
>was doused with something to accelerate the fire.
>
>Seeing as how this is going to make the World News broadcasts
>on TV, I have to imagine the fact the alleged suspect was a
>migrant is going to be presented heavily. Also somewhat
>interesting that cameras that were installed in subways cars
>this year if I'm not mistaken supposedly help to catch the
>alleged suspect.

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I wanna go to where the martyrs went
the brown figures on the walls of my apart-a-ment...

  

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