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"Nas won.. Jay accused of rape of minor with Diddy"


          

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/jay-z-accused-rape-13-year-old-diddy-sean-combs-lawsuit_n_67562e4ae4b0015618ddfb86?vkn

Jay-Z Accused Of Raping 13-Year-Old Girl With Diddy As Unnamed Female Celeb Watched

Jay-Z is accused of raping a 13-year-old girl in a lawsuit with fellow music mogul Sean “Diddy” Combs. The lawsuit was first filed in October but did not list Jay-Z, whose given name is Shawn Carter, by name until an amended complaint was filed on Sunday, NBC News first reported.

The plaintiff, listed as “Jane Doe,” alleges that Carter and Combs drugged her and subsequently took turns raping her while an unnamed female celebrity watched in 2000 at a house party in Manhattan after the MTV Video Music Awards, according to the amended complaint, which HuffPost obtained. At the time, she was 13 years old, and Carter and Combs would have both been about 31 years old.

She also claimed that Carter raped her vaginally first, then Combs did the same. Combs then attempted to force her to perform oral sex as Carter and the woman watched, but she managed to escape, running to a nearby gas station, the lawsuit added.

Carter was originally named as “Celebrity A” in the lawsuit and the woman was named as “Celebrity B.” However, when Carter was notified of the suit, he filed an “utterly frivolous lawsuit” and orchestrated “a conspiracy of harassment, bullying and intimidation” against “Jane Doe’s” lawyers, families, and others in an effort to keep his name out of the suit, the complaint said.

“This effort was meant to scare Plaintiff and to discredit her counsel. That effort failed. Indeed, Plaintiff chose to file this amendment as a result of the egregious conduct perpetuated by Carter,” the complaint continued.

It’s unclear to HuffPost what lawsuit Carter filed. However, a “John Doe’ filed a lawsuit against the plaintiff’s attorney, Tony Buzbee, accusing him of extortion last month. Buzbee denied the claim — calling it “frivolous” and an “aggressive attempt to intimidate or silence me and ultimately my clients.”

“Celebrity B” still has not been named.

Buzbee, who has led an effort to file more than 120 lawsuits against Combs, did not immediately respond to HuffPost’s request for comment.

Combs and Carter have a friendship that goes back decades, as documented through songs and photos together. During a 2023 conversation with James Corden, Combs said Carter was the only person besides his mom allowed to call him by his first name, Sean. (Carter’s first name is Shawn. While their names are spelled differently, they are both pronounced the same way.)

Roc Nation, which is owned by Carter, released a searing statement on Sunday evening denying the claims and taking aim at Buzbee.

Combs is facing a myriad of civil lawsuits — and a criminal investigation — that began rolling in when his ex, Casandra “Cassie” Ventura, accused him of rape and abuse in a quickly settled November 2023 lawsuit. He’s currently being detained at Brooklyn’s Metropolitan Detention Center until his May 15 trial date for his federal charges. He has denied many of the claims against him.

HuffPost also reached out to Carter’s attorney for comment but didn’t immediately hear back.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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Read the complaint. It's not credible.
Dec 08th 2024
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Buddy says it's not credible, therefore it's probably credible.
Dec 09th 2024
6
Or you can read for yourself, form your own opinion, rather than followi...
Dec 09th 2024
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lol.
Dec 09th 2024
11
how many real claims were you investigating before this popped up?
Dec 09th 2024
9
I literally read civil claims for a living.
Dec 09th 2024
12
and I don't step out of my lane. but that doesn't answer my question
Dec 10th 2024
82
*crickets* ole loud mouth ass
Dec 10th 2024
65
      lol
Dec 10th 2024
66
What about it is not credible?
Dec 09th 2024
13
      an old Roc videographer showed footage from the VMAs and after parties
Dec 09th 2024
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      It’s a wild story that raises a lot of questions
Dec 09th 2024
47
           where did you read she took a limo to the VMA's
Dec 10th 2024
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                That's not as crazy as her story.
Dec 11th 2024
118
                     a limo driver transporting a girl to a party is a crazy story?
Dec 11th 2024
123
                          He also specifically said it was *Diddy's* limo driver.
Dec 11th 2024
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                               I think yall cats may be too basic and never been anywhere to recognize
Dec 11th 2024
133
                                    there is a video of Diddy and Jlo stepping out of a limo at the 2000 VMA...
Dec 12th 2024
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                                    By Dedicated Limo and Driver, I mean a personal driver who drives him
Dec 15th 2024
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                                    Ooooooooooooook important man.
Dec 12th 2024
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                                         Imagine a lawyer using these arguments in court?
Dec 12th 2024
142
reading Jay’s reply its a wonder why OKP would post the complaint
Dec 08th 2024
2
Hardest bars he’s written in years
Dec 08th 2024
3
Jay Z via ChatGPT
Dec 08th 2024
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LOL !!!
Dec 09th 2024
7
Made me think of Ralph Cramden
Dec 14th 2024
148
I'm kind of surprised by this response from Jay
Dec 09th 2024
30
      I'm from Marcy Projects, we protect children!!
Dec 09th 2024
31
      Felt the same. Also laughed @ "fake physics"
Dec 10th 2024
57
      in his defense i can understand being emotional
Dec 10th 2024
58
Nas won because he’s a better rapper
Dec 09th 2024
5
exactamundo
Dec 10th 2024
59
Jay won because he was telling the truth about Nas.
Dec 10th 2024
64
      Damn what an alternate reality.
Dec 10th 2024
67
      fans really make it up as they go.. lol
Dec 10th 2024
70
      LOL
Dec 10th 2024
84
      That's like giving Drake credit for Kendrick's latest output
Dec 10th 2024
68
      so Jay was right? explain Nas going back, if not bc of Jay?
Dec 10th 2024
72
           And Nas made JayZ cry live on air.
Dec 10th 2024
74
                And they were all wrong for caving in.
Dec 10th 2024
75
                     All you're doing in here is imagining.
Dec 10th 2024
76
      Nas won
Dec 10th 2024
69
      Partial truths with lots of spin and some flat out BS
Dec 10th 2024
78
           aint you the nigga that didnt like DAMN by Kendrick?
Dec 10th 2024
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                Way, way, way, way, way, way more understandable position than yours.
Dec 10th 2024
86
                It Was Written >>>>> DAMN
Dec 10th 2024
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                     I thought DAMN was his weakest project when it dropped
Dec 11th 2024
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                          you would.
Dec 11th 2024
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idk who did what when
Dec 09th 2024
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lol
Dec 09th 2024
14
like....two.
Dec 10th 2024
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Best of Both Worlds!! UH -OHHHHH
Dec 09th 2024
16
Lol damn
Dec 09th 2024
20
      like, one is one thing. or some songs.
Dec 10th 2024
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           its not a good look when you see the circle of friends
Dec 10th 2024
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           yuuup. I'm not convicting anybody based on a friend group
Dec 10th 2024
81
           *Jaz-O shrugs*
Dec 10th 2024
80
I hope folks will keep that same diddy energy when celebs they like...
Dec 09th 2024
17
If credible evidence comes out in court that he did it, then hell yea
Dec 09th 2024
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Yeah, not just off allegations (like this one).
Dec 09th 2024
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      True, but, I'd say there's a litttttle more smoke w/Jay than other celeb...
Dec 09th 2024
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           Him and Puff been close for a long time
Dec 09th 2024
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                Why folks think Diddy and Jay are so close?
Dec 10th 2024
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                     They toured together as far back as 1997. I was there.
Dec 10th 2024
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                     I would hate for you to be my lawyer.
Dec 10th 2024
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                          LOL !
Dec 10th 2024
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                          Boondocks level court room question and shit
Dec 10th 2024
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                          some of that was in this article
Dec 10th 2024
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                          lol @ this from that article:
Dec 10th 2024
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                               one of the more ridiculous questions in here
Dec 10th 2024
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                          Wasn't Diddy heavily involved w/American Gangster, too ?
Dec 10th 2024
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                          Diddy and the Hitmen did six tracks i think
Dec 10th 2024
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                          Then you cats don't understand the idea of industry friends or even
Dec 11th 2024
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                               Buddy, are you a narcissist?
Dec 11th 2024
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                                    Next we'll provide pictures of the two of them at eachother's ...
Dec 11th 2024
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                                         But do you how many work parties Buddy been to in NYC?
Dec 11th 2024
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                                              lollllllllll
Dec 11th 2024
127
                                                   but did Jay have 3 albums with Kellz and go on tour with him???
Dec 11th 2024
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                                                        And how did that end?
Dec 13th 2024
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                                                             as expected when you collab with a pedo
Dec 13th 2024
144
Diddy? Hell yeah.. Jay Z.. oh hold up now!
Dec 09th 2024
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i already decided im not cancelling Hov. i cancelled Kelz tho
Dec 09th 2024
21
Muhphucka co-wrote Ill Na Na with a 15yo. Why is this a stretch?
Dec 09th 2024
22
Folk acting like the VMA's is a VFW.
Dec 09th 2024
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Foxys age during those years fluctuates like an ocean tide.
Dec 09th 2024
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      She was born in 78
Dec 09th 2024
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           that would mean she was 18
Dec 09th 2024
50
Jaguar Right?
Dec 09th 2024
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fuck no.
Dec 09th 2024
51
lol, right?
Dec 10th 2024
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I just recently saw Jag was on video like 6 months ago
Dec 14th 2024
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      yup, causing the platform to repost it to prove her claim wrong
Dec 14th 2024
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This could be so easy to clear up. Where was Jay-Z the night of the 200...
Dec 09th 2024
27
Getty Image says yes, he was at the VMA.
Dec 09th 2024
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Photo of Jay Z allegedly at afterparty
Dec 09th 2024
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Huh. Bc he was there means the allegations are true? Wtf
Dec 09th 2024
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      He was nominated for an award/one of the biggest artists at the time
Dec 09th 2024
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      No. But if we wasn't there or if he was clearly somewhere else it would
Dec 09th 2024
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           seems like that would've been an obvious response from jay
Dec 09th 2024
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                Right and a dumb ass attempt at a shakedown
Dec 09th 2024
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                     Why do you assume it's not a dumb ass attempt at s shakedown?
Dec 15th 2024
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Video of Diddy asking a 12 year old if she was coming to the afterparty
Dec 09th 2024
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why are people praying for Jay’s downfall?
Dec 09th 2024
35
Who's doing that?
Dec 09th 2024
37
who the fuck prayed for this besides Dame Dash?
Dec 09th 2024
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      Jaguar Wright and her smooth brained followers
Dec 09th 2024
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      Well yeah but most people aren't doing that
Dec 09th 2024
41
           depends on your lens. its a TON of these fools on SM spreading lies
Dec 09th 2024
43
      the court of public opinion….
Dec 09th 2024
44
           distancing yourself from someone works a few ways.
Dec 09th 2024
48
           I love Kendrick but who got him that superbowl gig?
Dec 10th 2024
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                Some folks question if Kendrick will still do the show
Dec 10th 2024
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           wait do you have serial rapists and/or pedos in your crew?
Dec 10th 2024
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                doesn't everyone have at least one rapist/pedo in their crew?
Dec 10th 2024
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                     you STAY telling on yourself. you sound like the ONE friend of the group
Dec 11th 2024
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                          holy shit!! You are one obsessed dumb mfer... lol
Dec 11th 2024
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keep that same energy!
Dec 09th 2024
52
Had no idea so many people had such a visceral hatred for Jay-Z
Dec 10th 2024
54
We watching Diddy, Dame Dash, Kanye and Jay Z crash n burn
Dec 10th 2024
55
      plays Buhloone Mindstate intro
Dec 10th 2024
61
      the guy who made oochie wally had a backpacker fanbase?
Dec 10th 2024
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           The fuck? Illmatic is the backpacker Bible.
Dec 10th 2024
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                I’m forever team Nas won
Dec 11th 2024
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                     A lot of backpackers hated Hate Me Now
Dec 11th 2024
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                          Nas has a lot of absolute trash
Dec 11th 2024
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                               not sure if its ego or money
Dec 11th 2024
109
                               that the Nas he wants to be, Jay had to punk him into the Nas he is now
Dec 11th 2024
110
                                    "It's just .... it's vulger" ©
Dec 11th 2024
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                                    Wait are you saying Jay made Nas make stuff like illmatic?
Dec 11th 2024
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                                         yes. Jay bullied him into giving us that illmatic Nas
Dec 11th 2024
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                                              And yet it was Jay who picked the worst Quik beat of all time
Dec 11th 2024
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                                                   Jay made Nas.. lol
Dec 11th 2024
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                                                        Hi hater! *waves*
Dec 11th 2024
138
Damn I was just rapping along to December 4th other day :((
Dec 10th 2024
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$100 this case is gone in less than sixty days.
Dec 11th 2024
100
+1
Dec 11th 2024
135
I guess GD isn't aware of Buzbee and DeShaun Watson
Dec 11th 2024
102
"GD isn't aware"? You the main one in here parroting his talking points...
Dec 11th 2024
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      I’m familiar with his tactics so none of this surprises me
Dec 11th 2024
136
Tony Buzbee contacted Jay-Z and his lawyers
Dec 11th 2024
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sent a letter with a photo of a clock
Dec 11th 2024
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lol
Dec 11th 2024
113
Still would have been more prudent for Jay-Z
Dec 11th 2024
116
      You know Jay never writes shit down
Dec 11th 2024
119
           One take-
Dec 11th 2024
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He's garbage
Dec 11th 2024
108
Most lawyers are trash
Dec 11th 2024
115
      True indeed
Dec 11th 2024
130
I read a few weeks ago about all these celebrities being shook
Dec 11th 2024
114
Why do threads like this go silent when the narrative changes
Dec 14th 2024
145
it’s a ridiculous sounding story
Dec 14th 2024
146
The mob will just move on to the next target
Dec 14th 2024
147
OKP loves tearing Black men down like most of America.
Dec 14th 2024
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why do you assume the black man is truthful and not the black woman? smh
Dec 14th 2024
152
I bet he believes the Cassie hotel video is a deep fake
Dec 14th 2024
154
Don't act like a bitch bro.
Dec 16th 2024
177
People online seemed VERY ready to beleive this happened
Dec 14th 2024
155
Russell Simmons, Kellz and Diddy set the tone
Dec 15th 2024
157
Sooo many people online was wanting this to happen
Dec 15th 2024
163
Who said she is black?
Dec 15th 2024
158
I could absolutely be wrong about that
Dec 16th 2024
166
      Foxy can tell you folks all day that she has not be victimized by Jay-Z
Dec 16th 2024
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           why are you caping for a predator so hard?
Dec 16th 2024
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                Why are you spreading unfounded rumors against black women against
Dec 16th 2024
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                what rumor am I spreading?
Dec 16th 2024
173
                     So you are also counting signing artists as a President of Def Jam? OK. ...
Dec 16th 2024
175
                          o I'm a lunatic?
Dec 16th 2024
178
                               borderline Damali level in this post. Wendy Williams would be proud
Dec 17th 2024
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                I’ve seen these years thrown around on social media, but are they true...
Dec 16th 2024
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                     ^^
Dec 17th 2024
189
                     Beyonce literally said they started dating when she was 19
Dec 17th 2024
191
                          so an adult. whats the complaint again? STILL no smoke for Mos.
Dec 17th 2024
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I'm not assuming shit. I responded to his question.
Dec 16th 2024
176
a rape accusation on Jay isn’t evidence of all Black men raping
Dec 14th 2024
153
you gotta be on drugs
Dec 16th 2024
164
Just watched
Dec 16th 2024
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Any info on why JayZ punched that girl in the face?
Dec 14th 2024
149
Pivot to another Jay-Z attack with this one losing steam?
Dec 15th 2024
159
      thanks for the insight
Dec 17th 2024
193
I'm just going to leave this here without commentary
Dec 15th 2024
160
so, no answer about all the real claims you were investigating
Dec 16th 2024
165
lol
Dec 16th 2024
167
I thought I answered your question when I said I read complaints for a l...
Dec 16th 2024
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      you said it drowns out real complaints about sexual assault
Dec 17th 2024
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      naw, we saw what you asked, and we seen his answer.
Dec 17th 2024
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           exactly. you saw him not answer the question
Jan 02nd 2025
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      buddy
Dec 17th 2024
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I mean, this is the first post that wasn’t dumb as fuck
Dec 16th 2024
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      Damn is it really that hard to say, "yeah I might have gotten it wrong"
Dec 17th 2024
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           oh naw, Legs will double down on stupidity an ignorance before that
Dec 17th 2024
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           got what wrong? I never said he was guilty
Dec 17th 2024
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                LOL. You live to throw rocks and hide your hand.
Dec 17th 2024
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                     so you can’t provide a post where I said Jay was guilty
Dec 17th 2024
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so we cool with grown men picking up 15 year olds from high school?
Dec 17th 2024
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Now that you have moved the goal post. I'll bite.
Dec 17th 2024
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      since we being pedantic I never said who raped her.
Dec 17th 2024
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           The paternity thing is beyond stupid
Dec 17th 2024
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           now folks defending Jay are predators. You throw that term around tooo
Dec 17th 2024
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                I know you're trolling me now
Dec 17th 2024
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                     dude makes everything about himself
Dec 18th 2024
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                          Yall make personal attacks, then complaint I make everything about me. S...
Jan 07th 2025
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                               this nigga.. lol
Jan 07th 2025
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Jigga's efforts to get case dismissed denied by judge
Dec 29th 2024
200
well that's inconsistent with what some people were saying
Jan 02nd 2025
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RE: As A Grammy Voter Attending the Grammy's in NY
Jan 02nd 2025
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her story is that she tried to get in but wasn’t able to
Jan 03rd 2025
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RE: her story is also that she acknowledges inconsistencies
Jan 03rd 2025
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yeah, her story has major holes
Jan 03rd 2025
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RE: her story is also that she acknowledges inconsistencies
Jan 06th 2025
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RE: The Location of Radio City Music Hall
Jan 03rd 2025
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      I cant even remember the last time I saw a rapper hop out an actual limo
Jan 06th 2025
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           There is video of JLo and Diddy hopping out a limo at these VMA’s
Jan 06th 2025
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a Rocafella videographer said the same. 13 years old at that.
Jan 03rd 2025
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Buddy_Gilapagos
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1. "Read the complaint. It's not credible."
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https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/25449342-diddy-lawsuit-naming-jay-z/?s=15

13 year old shows up at VMAs alone with out a ticket. Talks to a limo driver who says she's just diddys type, wait here. She waits hours and he comes back and takes her to a party field with celebrities (does not mention who). She drinks something and feels unwell. Wanders to a room to lay down. After a while Diddy, Jay-Z and an unnamed woman celebrity (presumably Alliyah?) enters. The guys SA and she eventually runs out. No one helps her and she runs off to a gas station where she calls her dad.

I have so many questions.

Like I've mentioned before, the more non-credible claims people make, the more it drowns out real claims.


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6. "Buddy says it's not credible, therefore it's probably credible."
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Glad this was the first reply lol

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the pack.


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11. "lol."
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9. "how many real claims were you investigating before this popped up?"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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12. "I literally read civil claims for a living. "
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If the issue was L4S, videos games or Neck Beards, I would defer to your opinion.

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82. "and I don't step out of my lane. but that doesn't answer my question"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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65. "*crickets* ole loud mouth ass"
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13. "What about it is not credible?"
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I don't know if the allegations are true or not. I'd like to know who the woman celebrity is.

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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15. "an old Roc videographer showed footage from the VMAs and after parties"
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he said you could of easily seen a 13yo there

he calls bullshit and he HATES Jay Z

didnt she claim to straight up get dropped of at Radio City Music Hall and just snuck in?

he said no way in hell

  

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47. "It’s a wild story that raises a lot of questions"
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Lawyer donated money to Trump in the past. That automatically makes me not trust in or believe somebody.

She took a limo to the VMA’s by herself at 13? How does that happen?

And that’s just the start of the story. It gets crazier from there.

And why are they just adding Jay to this now?

Puff is obviously a scumbag who has done a lot of horrible things, but I believe there’s been a number of accusations against him that have not been proven true, right? Seems like he’s the guy you can say anything about at this point, and many will believe it because of who he is.

This whole thing just seems hard to believe.

  

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96. "where did you read she took a limo to the VMA's"
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the story is she snuck out and went to the VMA's and started talking to limo drivers trying to get inside.

It indeed would be crazy story to arrive at the VMA's in a limo at 13.

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118. "That's not as crazy as her story. "
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Her story is crazier in that Diddy's Limo driver unilaterally decided to take this 13-year-old to the afterparty.



>the story is she snuck out and went to the VMA's and started
>talking to limo drivers trying to get inside.
>
>It indeed would be crazy story to arrive at the VMA's in a
>limo at 13.


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123. "a limo driver transporting a girl to a party is a crazy story? "
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really?

after the VMA's? That really sounds crazy to you?

That's the least crazy part about this story.

underage girls trying to sneak into an MTV event is crazy to yall?

the fuck?? lmao.

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124. "He also specifically said it was *Diddy's* limo driver."
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Like he offered up that part of the story, then talked about how unlikely it was lololol.

A limo driver. On Diddy's payroll. "Unilaterally" deciding to bring a young girl to his boss, who he likely knows is a piece of shit.

How insanely implausible ! lololol, this fucking dude.

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133. "I think yall cats may be too basic and never been anywhere to recognize"
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how crazy the story sounds. Down to the detail of even in 2000, I am highly skeptical that Diddy would have a dedicated corny ass Limo with a limo driver. They weren't going to the Prom.



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140. "there is a video of Diddy and Jlo stepping out of a limo at the 2000 VMA..."
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https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/video/jennifer-lopez-and-puff-daddy-arriving-to-the-2000-mtv-news-footage/597208454

Did you think they took the train or an MPV to the VMA’s??? lol.

In 2008 Apple from BEP opened for Joe Koi for his first comedy special taped in NYC for comedy central. He had a dedicated limo all night. I know this because I was in the limo and backstage for the show. Limo’s kinda played out now but in 2000 they were still a thing.

I think you believe you were the only cat outside all these years.

Not trying to stunt because I aint shit but I’m pretty sure when I was watching Biggie backstage at Jones Beach in 92 you were prolly in middle school.



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162. "By Dedicated Limo and Driver, I mean a personal driver who drives him"
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Around a Limo (not a suburban or other black car) and knows him well enough to pick up a random girl and drop him off at Diddys house and leaves her because he knows thats what Diddy like. That sounds ludicrous.

Epstein didn't even operate like that.


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141. "Ooooooooooooook important man."
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lol what a loser.

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142. "Imagine a lawyer using these arguments in court?"
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People of the jury, do any of you really believe Diddy had a dedicated limo in 2000? Have any of yall been outside????

*Video evidence of Diddy exiting a limo*

Are we sure that is even Diddy? Where is the shiny suit? Where is Biggie???

I rest my case!!!!



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2. "reading Jay’s reply its a wonder why OKP would post the complaint"
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sounds like Jay is trying to OUT the accuser/ lawyers egregious attempt at blackmail regardless of how he looks in the public eye

Jay Z via RocNation:
My lawyer received a blackmail attempt, called a demand letter, from a "lawyer" named Tony Buzbee.
What he had calculated was the nature of these allegations and the public scrutiny would make me want to settle.
No sir, it had the opposite effect! It made me want to expose you for the fraud you are in a VERY public fashion. So no, I will not give you ONE RED PENNY!!
These allegations are so heinous in nature that I implore you to file a criminal complaint, not a civil one!!
Whomever would commit such a crime against a minor should be locked away, would you not agree?
These alleged victims would deserve real justice if that were the case.
This lawyer, who I have done a bit of research on, seems to have a pattern of these type of theatrics!
I have no idea how you have come to be such a deplorable human Mr. Buzbee, but I promise you I have seen your kind many times over. I'm more than prepared to deal with your type. You claim to be a marine?! Marines are known for their valor, you have neither honor nor dignity.
My only heartbreak is for my family. My wife and I will have to sit our children down, one of whom is at the age where her friends will surely see the press and ask questions about the nature of these claims, and explain the cruelty and greed of people. I mourn yet another loss of innocence. Children should not have to endure such at their young age. It is unfair to have to try to understand inexplicable degrees of malice meant to destroy families and human spirit.
My heart and support goes out to true victims in the world, who have to watch how their life story is dressed in costume for profitability by this ambulance chaser in a cheap suit.
You have made a terrible error in judgement thinking that all "celebrities" are the same. I'm not from your world. I'm a young man who made it out of the project of Brooklyn. We don't play these types of games.
We have very strict codes and honor. We protect children, you seem to exploit people for personal gain.
Only your network of conspiracy theorists, fake physics, will believe the idiotic claims you have levied against me that, if not for the seriousness surrounding harm to kids, would be laughable.
I look forward to showing you just how different I am.

  

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3. "Hardest bars he’s written in years"
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That’s that 20 something yr old- not comfortable yet type of fire.
It’s that you not taking this shit from me fire

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4. "Jay Z via ChatGPT"
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NOT ONE RED PENNY I TELL YA! NOTHING!

  

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7. "LOL !!!"
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148. "Made me think of Ralph Cramden"
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Why iotta.

  

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30. "I'm kind of surprised by this response from Jay"
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It kinda comes off desperate and hyper emotional, and some of it is written as if a high schooler wrote it. The marines slight was sophomoric af lol. And the "fake physics" thrown in for good measure?

Seems reflexive and emo, and kind of entitled as if he's royalty and how dare anyone come at him like this.

Due process must take its course and we can't jump to condemn and posit people as guilty from mere allegations, of course. But Jay's been implicated this for a while now, will be interesting to see what develops from here.

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31. "I'm from Marcy Projects, we protect children!!"
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the worst part is the "but what about my family"

like this just happened, plenty of shit has been done 20+ years ago that would not reflect well on the family today.

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57. "Felt the same. Also laughed @ "fake physics""
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Had to do a triple take.

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58. "in his defense i can understand being emotional"
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i wouldn't be happy either if i were wrongfully accused of this. we'll see what happens.

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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5. "Nas won because he’s a better rapper "
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They’ve been trying to find a way to rope Jay into this for months. Seems like bullshit.

This lawyer is probably a Trump dicksucker.

  

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59. "exactamundo"
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64. "Jay won because he was telling the truth about Nas."
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Nas just said you ghey a million different ways that rhymed to a beat and niggas swore it was the best thing ever.

Jay going at Nas is what got us The Lost Tapes, something the fans had been begging for for years.

it also made Nas rethink his career trajectory and get back to the conscious Nas we love.

Nas to this day still struggles with this. he wants to be this ultra super thug, not the conscious rapper we want him to be. But hes learned over the years the conscious Nas is what brings the money in.

like who the fuck fumbles a whole album with Kanye West beats?? Nas.

  

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67. "Damn what an alternate reality."
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This is like that TV show about what if the confederates won the Civil War.

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70. "fans really make it up as they go.. lol"
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84. "LOL "
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>This is like that TV show about what if the confederates won
>the Civil War.

  

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68. "That's like giving Drake credit for Kendrick's latest output"
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It definitely gave hip hop something when Jay went at Nas but Ether is verb due to Nas.

Jay was right, Nas was putting out some garbage with his crew but Jay didn't push Nas back into the conscious lane.


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72. "so Jay was right? explain Nas going back, if not bc of Jay?"
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he exposed his poor career choices. made that nigga look in the mirror and choose differently.

  

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74. "And Nas made JayZ cry live on air."
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And made Jay's momma step in to tell him to stop embarrassing himself.

And made even the Roc team, the most biased Jay fans outside of, apparently, you, say "woof he got you/us."

And the title of his diss track toward Jay an is now an active adjective.

Jay lost. And it's OK.

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75. "And they were all wrong for caving in."
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Imagine if we had the Nas we have now back then?

fucking waste.

  

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76. "All you're doing in here is imagining."
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>Imagine if we had the Nas we have now back then?

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69. "Nas won"
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“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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78. "Partial truths with lots of spin and some flat out BS"
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Still wild how he attempted to write off IWW, when it’s arguably better than all of Jay’s albums.

  

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85. "aint you the nigga that didnt like DAMN by Kendrick?"
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you can sit yo DJ ears ass all the way down

  

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86. "Way, way, way, way, way, way more understandable position than yours."
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Apples and firetrucks.

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95. "It Was Written >>>>> DAMN"
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Though if someone dissed Kendrick and tried to say DAMN was “eh”….i couldn’t support that. It was a big album that’s well regarded.

It’s been discussed to death, but Jay’s funny math on when his and Nas’ careers both started always annoyed me. It’s either first album, or first guest appearance….for both of them. Can’t use first album for Jay and first appearance for Nas, lol. That doesn’t even make sense.

Regardless, I don’t even really care about that battle. Nas is better because he’s a better rapper with a better career. Higher highs and deeper discography. And there’s no shame in that for Jay. Nas is better than everybody else too.

  

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103. "I thought DAMN was his weakest project when it dropped"
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but that doesn't mean it was booty cheeks.

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139. "you would."
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10. "idk who did what when"
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but something I would not want to have out there if I were facing an accusation of this type

is two combo albums with r kelly.

two.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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14. "lol"
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92. "like....two."
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one is too many, two is WTF ARE YOU DOING MY BROTHER

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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16. "Best of Both Worlds!! UH -OHHHHH"
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20. "Lol damn"
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62. "like, one is one thing. or some songs."
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but not just one whole album. TWO.

AFTER the tape came out and he went to trial in between

again, idk who did what

but like how can I give anyone the benefit of the doubt there


and his other combo album is with kanye who has own allegations

Jay has a strange sens of who makes for a good collaboration

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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71. "its not a good look when you see the circle of friends"
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of course Diddy has the most associations but when you look at these old videos..

Aaron Hall incriminates himself in an interview "DIDDY SEEN ME FUCKING" and is on the list. Stevie J always been a bit skeevy. Of course Kellz is a pedo and Jay's biggest link to pedo activity.

Then you have Ashton Kutcher in the mix and his costar/friend he defended who was convicted of rape. The GF who he found killed in 2000 is a story that most forget.

Usher been talked about the wild shit he seen as a teen


We all know Bieber was also in the mix as a teen and Puff joked on Kimmel "He knows better than to be talking about the things that he does with big brother Puff on national television. Some things, everything ain’t for everybody.” cues laugh track.

I mean.. while Jay may be totally innocent its hard to give him the benefit given those social circles back in 2000.


I think a lot of Jay fans are seeing him as the family man with Beyonce and not a 30 year old who was single and living the good life as a single Black man back then.

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81. "yuuup. I'm not convicting anybody based on a friend group"
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but it's a HORRIBLE list


www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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80. "*Jaz-O shrugs*"
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"Get ready....for your blessing....."
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17. "I hope folks will keep that same diddy energy when celebs they like..."
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...start getting caught-up in this net.

  

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18. "If credible evidence comes out in court that he did it, then hell yea"
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Gonna be keeping an eye out for this one

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23. "Yeah, not just off allegations (like this one)."
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Don't want to be tar and feathering people just off allegations or hearsay.

I'm just thinking that there were a lot of people at them Diddy parties, and most attendees probably didn't partake in sexually assaulting anyone. But some did, and a few a are probably gonna get exposed in the near future.

  

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24. "True, but, I'd say there's a litttttle more smoke w/Jay than other celeb..."
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>I'm just thinking that there were a lot of people at them
>Diddy parties, and most attendees probably didn't partake in
>sexually assaulting anyone. But some did, and a few a are
>probably gonna get exposed in the near future.

Just cuz, IIRC, Jay was openly and actively galivanting around w/Diddy in the late 90s and possibly beyond. That still doesn't prove anything, I'm just saying that gives a little more possible circumstantial credence to allegations against Jay than they would against some random celeb who was simply pictured @ a Diddy white party around that time, like have been going around.

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34. "Him and Puff been close for a long time "
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I'd be surprised if he didn't at least know Diddy was a creep. Who knows if these allegations are true, but still.

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73. "Why folks think Diddy and Jay are so close?"
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Sure they are folks who have been in the industry together for a LONG time so there are a few pictures of them together But they don't have a lot of music together, don't think they have much business together, don't seem like they family vacationing together.

It always seemed to me like Jay-Z parted ways with the wilder aspects of the business a while ago and has been a family man and hanging with rich white folks while Diddy stayed in the streets partying.




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77. "They toured together as far back as 1997. I was there."
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A quick google search turns up over 1,000 pictures of them together.

They traveled in many of the same circles, collaborated with the same people (including themselves a few times).

Even if you don't believe the allegations, no reason to lie/be dismissive of the fact that they've been buddies (at times close ones) for decades.

https://www.gettyimages.com/search/2/image?phrase=diddy+jay+z

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79. "I would hate for you to be my lawyer."
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These dudes been tight as fuck.

1996 Jay and Big did Brooklyns finest
1997 Jay guest stars on Puff's No Way Out album on Young G's
1997 Puff returns favor on “I Know What Girls Like”
1999 Jay on Puffs second album on "Do You Like It... Do You Want It..."
2003 collab on Crazy N Love B Side Summertime

2007 tour together on Screamfest tour. 50 says Puff pattig niggas butts backstage and he aint with it and been throwing shots ever since.

2009 photo of Jay speaking at one of Puffs parties. Kim Porter says "“We call that picture a secret society, all we ask is trust!”

Diddy says "“He was on tour, and he flew in private after one of his shows just to come to that party. Then he had to fly back out. I was just telling him how much I appreciated it and how much I value our friendship"

2016 Bad Boy Reunion tour Jay is on stage: “Bad Boy’s celebrating 20 years of hits, but this is extended family,” referring to Jay-Z stood next to him. “Whenever I get in trouble, this is the one I call. This is my strategist right here. This is my brother!”


2020: Diddy at Jays Black Billionaire Brunch “It’s 2020, y’all, and it is different than when it was 2016. The game has been elevated. As you know, there no expense has been spared. We had a Black billionaire lunch year, understand, right? And, we’re here together in keeping staying together. We’re getting tighter, and united we stand.”


How could you type that shit when a quick google search has a shit ton if images of them together at birthday parties, events, etc..







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83. "LOL !"
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>RE: I would hate for you to be my lawyer.

I can't believe no one mentions how Jay was a headliner on the No Way Out tour in 1997 as well. Like not one media article touches on this. But I seen 'em !

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87. "Boondocks level court room question and shit"
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88. "some of that was in this article"
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but yeah just because he's no longer going to all the freaky parties doesn't mean he doesn't know they are happening.


https://metro.co.uk/2024/12/10/inside-jay-z-diddys-30-year-close-friendship-business-life-22157896/

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89. "lol @ this from that article:"
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"Combs revealed last year on an episode of Carpool Karaoke with James Corden – before allegations were made – that only his mother and Jay Z are allowed to call him Sean, showing the level of their brotherly friendship."

Meanwhile Buddy's all, HoW cOmE eVeRyOnE jUsT aSsUmEs ThEy KnOw EaChOtHeR aT aLl ?!? lolol

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97. "one of the more ridiculous questions in here"
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he's like the Jaguar Wright of Diddy defenders..lol

did they even KNOW each other?

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90. "Wasn't Diddy heavily involved w/American Gangster, too ?"
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91. "Diddy and the Hitmen did six tracks i think"
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and there's more that's not even in these articles, i'm pretty sure they are friends.

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120. "Then you cats don't understand the idea of industry friends or even "
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the industry.


I've been going out in NYC for the last 25 years and I see all the same people all the time.

When people are also in your industry you see them 10X more often.

Take pictures with them. Even work together from time to time.

That does not make someone your close friend.

Yall need to get outside more.


>These dudes been tight as fuck.
>
>1996 Jay and Big did Brooklyns finest
>1997 Jay guest stars on Puff's No Way Out album on Young G's
>1997 Puff returns favor on “I Know What Girls Like”
>1999 Jay on Puffs second album on "Do You Like It... Do You
>Want It..."
>2003 collab on Crazy N Love B Side Summertime
>
>2007 tour together on Screamfest tour. 50 says Puff pattig
>niggas butts backstage and he aint with it and been throwing
>shots ever since.
>
>2009 photo of Jay speaking at one of Puffs parties. Kim Porter
>says "“We call that picture a secret society, all we ask is
>trust!”
>
>Diddy says "“He was on tour, and he flew in private after
>one of his shows just to come to that party. Then he had to
>fly back out. I was just telling him how much I appreciated it
>and how much I value our friendship"
>
>2016 Bad Boy Reunion tour Jay is on stage: “Bad Boy’s
>celebrating 20 years of hits, but this is extended family,”
>referring to Jay-Z stood next to him. “Whenever I get in
>trouble, this is the one I call. This is my strategist right
>here. This is my brother!”
>
>
>2020: Diddy at Jays Black Billionaire Brunch “It’s 2020,
>y’all, and it is different than when it was 2016. The game
>has been elevated. As you know, there no expense has been
>spared. We had a Black billionaire lunch year, understand,
>right? And, we’re here together in keeping staying together.
>We’re getting tighter, and united we stand.”
>
>
>How could you type that shit when a quick google search has a
>shit ton if images of them together at birthday parties,
>events, etc..
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


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122. "Buddy, are you a narcissist? "
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wtf does going to parties in NYC in your industry have to do with Puff and Jay???

You sound simple

Buddy: Did they do songs together? Yes, a decent amount
Buddy: Did they go to parties? Yea.. here are the photos

Buddy: BUT WHATABOUT FAMILY FUNCTIONS??? Puff “I like to thank Jay for flying in from his tour for my birthday party. Means so much to me, WE FAMILY!!!”


Sowhat!!!! I lived in NYC for 25 yeeeears!

you really a lawyer?

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125. "Next we'll provide pictures of the two of them at eachother's ..."
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... family functions. Holding eachother's children. Manning the other's grill.

Buddy: yea, but have they fucked tho ?!

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126. "But do you how many work parties Buddy been to in NYC? "
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man, Kellz llawyer is Buddy for realz

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6D08yJL4rks


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127. "lollllllllll"
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137. "but did Jay have 3 albums with Kellz and go on tour with him???"
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143. "And how did that end? "
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https://www.chicagotribune.com/2014/01/02/jay-z-and-r-kelly-chronicles-of-a-feud/https://www.chicagotribune.com/2014/01/02/jay-z-and-r-kelly-chronicles-of-a-feud/


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144. "as expected when you collab with a pedo"
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after a sex tape drops

messy.

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19. "Diddy? Hell yeah.. Jay Z.. oh hold up now! "
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it hit the news so why not post it?

A few things to consider:

Late 90's/early 2000's was wild times.
The nigga went on tour with Kellz
90's we were singing shit like "back stage, underaged, adolescent.. think I need a body bag"



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21. "i already decided im not cancelling Hov. i cancelled Kelz tho"
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when i seen R Kelly on stage mocking his underage accusers by dry humping the stage and people cheering him on? nah, im good on Kelz.

itonically this was during the Best of Both Worlds tour

  

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22. "Muhphucka co-wrote Ill Na Na with a 15yo. Why is this a stretch?"
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26. "Folk acting like the VMA's is a VFW. "
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The demo for the VMA's isn't just old ass execs.

it's impossible for a 13 year old to put on makeup and look 16 or 17 and try to sneak into an award show filled with teens and early/mid 20 celebs?

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42. "Foxys age during those years fluctuates like an ocean tide."
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46. "She was born in 78"
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I was under the impression Jay started working with her once she signed with Def Jam in 96, as DJ Clark Kent was her cousin?

  

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50. "that would mean she was 18"
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not saying she was 18 when they worked together, but these ages people be throwing out be all over the place to justify whatever agenda they have against the other person

not just Foxy
but Misa
Faith
Beyoncé
etc.

the ‘Jay got with Beyoncé when she was a minor’ claim is just as silly. i see this claim often online. funny how Mos Def was with Bey before Jay but you never hear them claim that on him.
plus wasnt Bey with that Lyndall cat during HS and right after.

people be just saying shit

  

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25. "Jaguar Right?"
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51. "fuck no."
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63. "lol, right? "
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she talks a lot and says some wild shit but I also think "niggas be abusing women in the industry" is some wild reach.

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150. "I just recently saw Jag was on video like 6 months ago"
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making the claim Jay-Z held her down at gun point and sexually assaulted her and now she's backtracking and saying the footage was edited.

R.I.P. Loud But Wrong Guy
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156. "yup, causing the platform to repost it to prove her claim wrong"
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27. "This could be so easy to clear up. Where was Jay-Z the night of the 200..."
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VMAs? There are a gazillion pictures from that night. Did Diddy have an afterparty that Jay-Z was at?


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28. "Getty Image says yes, he was at the VMA. "
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https://www.gettyimages.com/search/2/image?phrase=us%20mtv%20vma%20jay%20Z%202000&sort=mostpopular&license=rf%2Crm

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29. "Photo of Jay Z allegedly at afterparty"
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https://x.com/CollinRugg/status/1851720696789111234/photo/3

no idea who this account belongs to but the outfit matches what he had on at the VMA's and I think its more than likely Jay would attend a Diddy party after the VMA's.

Jlo dress is different tho.

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33. "Huh. Bc he was there means the allegations are true? Wtf"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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36. "He was nominated for an award/one of the biggest artists at the time"
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Yea I would expect him to be at the VMAs

R.I.P. Loud But Wrong Guy
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39. "No. But if we wasn't there or if he was clearly somewhere else it would"
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clear it up pretty quickly.

If he was there then there obviously it would require more work.


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45. "seems like that would've been an obvious response from jay"
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if he wasn't there.

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49. "Right and a dumb ass attempt at a shakedown"
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To accuse someone that wasn't even there

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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161. "Why do you assume it's not a dumb ass attempt at s shakedown?"
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32. "Video of Diddy asking a 12 year old if she was coming to the afterparty"
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peep the laugh

https://www.tiktok.com/@pagesix/video/7429071325727132971

maybe it was edited.. smh.

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35. "why are people praying for Jay’s downfall? "
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let’s start there…

  

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37. "Who's doing that?"
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“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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38. "who the fuck prayed for this besides Dame Dash? "
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40. "Jaguar Wright and her smooth brained followers"
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they swear she is some soothsayer prophet

  

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41. "Well yeah but most people aren't doing that "
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“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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43. "depends on your lens. its a TON of these fools on SM spreading lies"
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44. "the court of public opinion…."
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folks bringing up Kelly; yet, leaving out how Jay distanced himself from him. Remember?

folks critiquing his response; yet, had a publicist wrote it folks would complain it’s not his words.

guilty by association; yet, we’ve all had at least one morally bankrupt friend in our crew.





  

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48. "distancing yourself from someone works a few ways. "
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he damn sure didn't distance himself when Kellz video tape dropped.

for me, if people around you keep getting accused of rape I'm not going to cape for you when your name pops up.

its not hoping for most people, most were just wondering who would be associated with Diddy.

what's wild to me is Kendrick SCREAMING this shit during the Drake battle. He kept saying fuck the industry and talking about pedo's and creep shit on videos.

but we were too quick to call folks crazy because it does sound crazy.

but that doesn't make it a lie.

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53. "I love Kendrick but who got him that superbowl gig?"
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Who did he accept it from?

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60. "Some folks question if Kendrick will still do the show"
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or if the NFL will distance themselves from Roc Nation

Its a business tho and I think more folks are involved than just Jay when it comes to Roc Nation now.

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93. "wait do you have serial rapists and/or pedos in your crew?"
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>guilty by association; yet, we’ve all had at least one
>morally bankrupt friend in our crew.
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How "morally bankrupt" is your crew that you aren't at least side eyeing folks with Diddy ties??


You did this with Kanye if I remember correctly. Refused to believe/admit he went full Nazi even though he said multiple times "Hey everyone, I've gone full Nazi!"

And now you are setting up reasons to excuse Jay or whoever by saying "there's always that one friend!"...nope not with this stuff.


You have to stop putting these famous people on a pedestal.

  

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99. "doesn't everyone have at least one rapist/pedo in their crew? "
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112. "you STAY telling on yourself. you sound like the ONE friend of the group"
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117. "holy shit!! You are one obsessed dumb mfer... lol"
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The bland rookie strikes out again!!

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52. "keep that same energy!"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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54. "Had no idea so many people had such a visceral hatred for Jay-Z"
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Like, if this case is bogus and gets dismissed I think a lot of people will be very upset

  

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55. "We watching Diddy, Dame Dash, Kanye and Jay Z crash n burn"
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meanwhile Nas recently toured with Wu, De La Soul, Talib Kweli etc

its a backpacker dream come true!

  

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61. "plays Buhloone Mindstate intro"
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94. "the guy who made oochie wally had a backpacker fanbase?"
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98. "The fuck? Illmatic is the backpacker Bible."
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but yeah, Nas def left the backpackers to get paid with his next 3 or 4 albums after Illmatic.

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101. "I’m forever team Nas won"
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But Nas also has ties to Diddy and Jay.

I was listening to “I am” and“Stillmatic” yestetday cause Kendrick inspired me to listen to “One Mic.” BTW it reminded of how good Nas is. “man in the garden” is really good but Nas’ e execution on One Mic eclipses Kenny’s version.

But yea, “NY state of mind 2” is my favorite Nas song of all time— but then fuckin “Hate me Now” played and I was like 😩

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104. "A lot of backpackers hated Hate Me Now"
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which tracks with the song and video.

Just glossy

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105. "Nas has a lot of absolute trash"
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to go with ALL TIMERs

someone previously named Oochie Wallie

all the Braveheart shit...

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109. "not sure if its ego or money"
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but an album of Premo beats or Alchemist beats always seemed like a no brainer

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110. "that the Nas he wants to be, Jay had to punk him into the Nas he is now"
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thats why he KEPT and KEEPS trying to make bullshit trash like that

its like when i used to tell people the Kanye we have now is the REAL Kanye, that he was never the conscious rapper we loved. people looked at me crazy., called me a hater. then Kanye admitted it.

its a certain passion that comes with it. Nas can write it so well it fools the listener, but its not him at all.

  

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111. ""It's just .... it's vulger" ©"
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129. "Wait are you saying Jay made Nas make stuff like illmatic?"
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Or taht him trying to keep up with Jay made him make the bullshit wannabe radio hits?

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131. "yes. Jay bullied him into giving us that illmatic Nas"
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Nas wants to give us the garbage tracks like Oochie Wally. thats how he sees himself, thats why he kept going over to that lane.

thats why it isnt a no-brainer for him to do an Alchemist album, or Conductor. sure, its a no-brainer to us, but not him. Nas is DUMB but we want him to be smart because of his lyrics

this is why hes a horrible beat picker

didnt Rhymefest say when he first met Nas, he was expecting him to say some of the most intelligent, thoughtful, inspiring thing ever….im still waiting. or something like it?

  

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132. "And yet it was Jay who picked the worst Quik beat of all time"
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all that Swizz BS, had Eminem on the Black Album, whatever that BP3 mess was, Can I Get A…?, Hard Knock Life….none of that shit holds up. Has he ever even worked with Alchemist?

Also, Jay should make an album with Conductor. I’ve been saying that on here for years.

We can arm chair A&R pretty much anyone’s music with our opinions.

  

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134. "Jay made Nas.. lol"
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138. "Hi hater! *waves*"
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56. "Damn I was just rapping along to December 4th other day :(("
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100. "$100 this case is gone in less than sixty days. "
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At least against jay-Z.

Based this just on a couple of days reading* about Buzbee and he sounds like a unscrupulous bum (and Jay-Z has a real lawyer and law firm behind him that is being very aggressive). That and the plaintiff being anonymous which sounds like it won't last much longer.




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135. "+1"
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102. "I guess GD isn't aware of Buzbee and DeShaun Watson"
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his tactics are very Better Call Saul

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121. ""GD isn't aware"? You the main one in here parroting his talking points..."
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You seriously be blowing whatever direction the wind blows. SMH.



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136. "I’m familiar with his tactics so none of this surprises me"
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I also have little desire to defend Diddy like you do, and I definitely am aware of how the industry works which is why I would never give these dudes the benefit of..

reasonable doubt.

its obvious you just found out who he is.. its okay.

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106. "Tony Buzbee contacted Jay-Z and his lawyers"
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for a settlement back in October based on an article from the LA Times.

For folks that care, I suggest reading the article linked here: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/ar-AA1vAHJD

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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107. "sent a letter with a photo of a clock"
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times up?

No wonder Jay responded like he was in a movie.

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113. "lol"
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“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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116. "Still would have been more prudent for Jay-Z"
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to let his lawyers do the talking in court and issue a statement on behalf of Jay as well since that lengthy post on social media accomplishes nothing.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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119. "You know Jay never writes shit down"
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off the dome!!

Barz nigga!!


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128. "One take- "
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My man didnt even use the delete or backspace keys

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108. "He's garbage"
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115. "Most lawyers are trash "
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OKSports have all the details on this dude, down to his address and shit.

and since Jay is involved in the NFL it adds an extra layer since Buzbee pulled the same shit with Watson with a bunch of Jane Doe's.

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130. "True indeed"
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I'll check out OKSports. The article I read, gave a little info on

several of his cases.

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114. "I read a few weeks ago about all these celebrities being shook"
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Because there was an attorney threatening to name them in the Diddy suit.

Sounds like this is the guy. Thin line between settlement offer and extortion. I wonder how a judge sees it.



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145. "Why do threads like this go silent when the narrative changes"
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Like, are we that obsessed with tearing people down that when it doesn't happen we immediately get bored?

The alleged "victim" had an interview with NBC news yet not a peep in here.

  

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146. "it’s a ridiculous sounding story"
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I don’t even really like Jay-Z.

But c’mon.

Acknowledging we don’t actually know these people, there’s still zero reason to think he would do this, and none of it even sounds plausible.

Wannabe ass Saul Goodman probably Google image’d who went to what party and went from there.

  

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147. "The mob will just move on to the next target"
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If all of this turns out to be not true. No apology from the mob or recanting.

Just moving on to the next thing.

  

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151. "OKP loves tearing Black men down like most of America."
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And like most of America, they ignore our innocence and the good majority of us to focus on the terrible minority. We don't get to be human like everyone else. I've mentioned this on here before and been called an "MRA" by the psychotic mod. It runs through every part of the board.
It would be surprising that yall haven't noticed that yet, but I've been hated for presenting so much factual info here, that I understand how this works by now. I pretty much just sit back and watch yall catch on one by one at this point.

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152. "why do you assume the black man is truthful and not the black woman? smh"
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This ain't got shit to do with tearing down black men and everything to do with the world automatically taking the side of a man verses the RAPED 13 year old victim.

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154. "I bet he believes the Cassie hotel video is a deep fake"
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when the Diddy shit popped off people asked about Jay.

When you look at the music biz there are tons of stories about under age shenanigans.

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177. "Don't act like a bitch bro."
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You're better than this.

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155. "People online seemed VERY ready to beleive this happened"
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when the story broke

I saw folks saying Carter was guilty/next in line even before an accuser came out


It could still turn out that she was assaulted

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157. "Russell Simmons, Kellz and Diddy set the tone"
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163. "Sooo many people online was wanting this to happen"
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Before it happened. It's been an ongoing theme since Diddy.

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158. "Who said she is black?"
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This week we will get to see what she looks like and probably an image of her at 13 and everyone's story about this is going to change.

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166. "I could absolutely be wrong about that"
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I assumed the victim is black like the other young women he victimized: Foxy, Aaliyah, Beyonce. And for the record, I am not accusing him of sexually assaulting those women, just stating that he took advantage of their youth and his (relative) power in the industry.

But I stand by my initial assertion that there is no reason to automatically side with an adult male when he is being accused of sexually assaulting a 13 year old, particularly when he is best friends with a rapist.

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170. "Foxy can tell you folks all day that she has not be victimized by Jay-Z"
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AND Complain that she is being victimized by internet folks making up shit about her and yall refuse to listen to her and continue to do the thing she is really upset about. Leave that woman alone.

Here is here speaking on internet folks making things up:

https://www.instagram.com/doggiediamondstv/reel/DAzngimPefM/


And here is the story she was referring to in that segment.

https://www.bet.com/article/v6p5un/foxy-brown-threatens-to-sue-over-jay-z-rumors


I think you are confusing Jay-Z for R Kelly, or Dame Dash with regards to Alliyah. I guess yall can put any words in her mouth since she ain't here to speak for herself.

And then there is Beyonce. Which I think is the source of 98% if the internets hate for Jay-Z. That's that's woman='s husband and father of her kids. She ain't complaining about him. Either she is a strong black Independent Queen, CEO, Boss or she is a captured victim of an evil Jay-Z. Which one is it?

WHo you think makes Beyonce's life harder, Jay-Z or yall making up stuff about her and her situation?!?


Yall should leave these woman alone and not use them for your agendas.



>I assumed the victim is black like the other young women he
>victimized: Foxy, Aaliyah, Beyonce. And for the record, I am
>not accusing him of sexually assaulting those women, just
>stating that he took advantage of their youth and his
>(relative) power in the industry.
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>But I stand by my initial assertion that there is no reason to
>automatically side with an adult male when he is being accused
>of sexually assaulting a 13 year old, particularly when he is
>best friends with a rapist.


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171. "why are you caping for a predator so hard?"
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I never said anything about any rumors, I'm simple going by when Jay-Z started (allegedly) dating/messing with/grooming these women. I never even heard that Foxy Brown rumor so I have no idea how that's relevant.

As far as Foxy protecting him, that's to be expected. He played a major part in her musical success, so why would she tell the truth when it's in her best financial interest to protect him? For some people exploitation is worth it if it fiscally benefits them.

Let's do some quick maths© now

Jay-Z allegedly started messing with Foxy in 1994, when she was 16 and he was 25.

He allegedly dated Aaliyah in 2000 when he was 31 and she was 21.

He allegedly started messing with Beyonce when she was 18 and he was 30.

You don't see a worrying trend? You don't think it's a coincidence that a grown man was continually messing with teenagers? Again, I'm not saying Jay raped these women, but I am saying he preyed on them.

Combined with his close association with a man who is accused of sexually assaulting 100s people means to me he doesn't get the benefit of the doubt. I'm not even saying he's guilty but I am saying I'm not going to take the side of a man who dated teenagers when he was in his 30s.



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172. "Why are you spreading unfounded rumors against black women against"
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their wishes!!?

FOXY is telling you nothing happened between her and Jay. She isn't complaining about him in the video. She is complaining about YOU and other people spreading shit on the internet!

It's Bizarro crazy world to insist that something is going on when the grown adult women are telling you nothing happened AND begging you crazy internet people to stop spreading rumors about them.

Black Men have been getting lynched for centuries behind false allegations And you can't help yourself to contribute to it.

You are spreading rumors about black men and women while the black women are asking you not to.

You can't see you are the problem here?!!

Yall are shameless. It takes nothing to say "My Bad. I got it wrong".



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173. "what rumor am I spreading? "
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That 'Aint No Nigga' was fucking copyrighted in 1996, and seemingly worked on as far back as 1994? Are you serious?

You do know that can you be a predator without having penetrative sex right?

If you think it's normal for a grown man to be continually fucking with teenagers (the ones I mentioned plus I forgot about Rhianna and Teairra Mari 🙃) that's on you. We have different values it seems but go off I guess.

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175. "So you are also counting signing artists as a President of Def Jam? OK. ..."
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You are going full Pizza Comet with it.

But keep on crusading for all these woman who have never accused Jay-Z of anything and in fact are asking people like you to stop spreading rumors that there is something untoward in their relationship with Jay-Z.

Good luck with that.



>That 'Aint No Nigga' was fucking copyrighted in 1996, and
>seemingly worked on as far back as 1994? Are you serious?
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>You do know that can you be a predator without having
>penetrative sex right?
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>If you think it's normal for a grown man to be continually
>fucking with teenagers (the ones I mentioned plus I forgot
>about Rhianna and Teairra Mari 🙃) that's on you. We have
>different values it seems but go off I guess.


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178. "o I'm a lunatic?"
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I would much rather be a lunatic than someone who goes around protecting pedophiles. Fuck you.

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196. "borderline Damali level in this post. Wendy Williams would be proud"
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179. "I’ve seen these years thrown around on social media, but are they true..."
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Who was Foxy in 1994? Who was Jay-Z in 1994?

Seems far more plausible they met in ‘96 - nobody knew Foxy before “I Shot Ya” - that was late ‘95. She signed with Def Jam in ‘96, and met Jay through her cousin Clark Kent. And by all accounts they were never an item.

But the Beyonce one….they weren’t together until ‘02. Beyonce was 21. They weren’t together in ‘99.

People just saying shit.

  

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189. "^^"
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like i also said above #50, Mos was with Bey before Jay but you NEVER hear pedo claims on him.

  

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191. "Beyonce literally said they started dating when she was 19"
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https://www.nbcwashington.com/local/beyonce_on_why_she_waited_to_walk_down_the_aisle_with_jay-z/1844492/

>People just saying shit.

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195. "so an adult. whats the complaint again? STILL no smoke for Mos."
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176. "I'm not assuming shit. I responded to his question."
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You and legs too lost in your emotions to realize yall are having a completely different conversation.

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153. "a rape accusation on Jay isn’t evidence of all Black men raping"
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that being said, ole girl picked the most random name for someone she talked to at the event.

she coulda said Beans, Faith, Usher, Lil Kim, or anyone from Bad Boy or Rockafella and she said some guys name from like Blink 182 or some shit.

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164. "you gotta be on drugs"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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169. "Just watched"
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149. "Any info on why JayZ punched that girl in the face?"
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As for this story, it doenst make sense. Did the girl’s parents find out what happened? Did they take her for a check-up? How did she escape that unknown place? Why is celebrity B assumed to be Aaliyah, was Jlo not at the afterparty since that’s who Diddy was at the VMA’s with?

Whats up with the 150 suits Buzbee has against Combs? Any of them sticky or is this his 151st attempt?

  

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159. "Pivot to another Jay-Z attack with this one losing steam?"
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https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/jay-z-filmed-punching-12-year-old-female-fan/


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193. "thanks for the insight"
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Still looks weird af but nice to know they are friends goofing around.

Can you answer the other questions too?

  

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160. "I'm just going to leave this here without commentary"
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https://x.com/1996Biggs/status/1867749230435074515?t=2lnBSXDuR5n22DaQu9YaPw&s=09

I want to hear Leggs and Brews words of wisdom and deep analysis about what's going on here.

Please guys, break it down for those of us who don't get it.

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165. "so, no answer about all the real claims you were investigating"
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because it's zero, and it's always zero

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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167. "lol"
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168. "I thought I answered your question when I said I read complaints for a l..."
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among other things. So the answer is in my last 20 years of being a lawyer (not counting the 3 in law school), I have read and reviewed more complaints than I can count or remember.

But you don't need to be a lawyer to read the complaint and see it isn't credible. You just have to been outside and have a clue how things happen.






>because it's zero, and it's always zero
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>www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at


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181. "you said it drowns out real complaints about sexual assault"
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I didn't ask about what complaints you read that aren't at all related

you did try to pretend like I asked a different question because you knew you couldn't answer.



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184. "naw, we saw what you asked, and we seen his answer."
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you cant mind melt your way out of it

  

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202. "exactly. you saw him not answer the question"
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aint nothing to mind melt

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182. "buddy"
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"Like I've mentioned before, the more non-credible claims people make, the more it drowns out real claims"

what real claims?


what are you doing about any of them?

(you aren't doing anything)




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174. "I mean, this is the first post that wasn’t dumb as fuck"
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asking if Jay and Diddy were close or why Diddy would have a limo in 2000 for an award show was just dumb shit

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180. "Damn is it really that hard to say, "yeah I might have gotten it wrong""
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I stand by one of the more ludicrous parts of the story is the idea that Diddy has a Limo driver who is close enough to him personally to decide to drop off at his home a random autistic white girl he met on the street. She would have been better off saying Bentley Farnsworth did it.

And the more nuanced point I don't expect you to get is that two of the largest names in hip-hop having a bunch of photos together and have collaborated professionally a few times over the last 30 YEARs isn't indicative of them being best friends. Rappers rap about Industry Friends all the time.

This summer a former Vibes editor wrote a long as piece for the Nytimes which basically amounts to, if you ask me, why there are so many pictures of her and Diddy together.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/12/magazine/diddy-sean-combs.html

From the outside looking in I would guess that Jay really only fucks with hard Ty Ty, Emory and maybe Jay Brown and everyone else is just Industry Friends but I don't know any of these people well enough to even say that with my chest.

But yeah, you know what's going down because you once hung out with Joe Koi 20 years ago and were backstage at a Biggie concert 30 years ago.

And to wrap this shit up on my end, the last thing I want to say is its clear yall really don't give a shit about an alledged sexually assault of child based on the title of this post alone. Making a "Nas Won" joke off a rape of a 13 year old? SMH. This just something for you to do in your quest to be the new Lightworks gossip monger.

Same with Shygurl. She is more interested in taking Jay-Z down to still be going on about Foxy when Foxy is explicitly saying nothing happened and asking people on the internet to leave her alone.

But yall keep yall knitting circle going and move on to the next one. There is always something new to gossip about.


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183. "oh naw, Legs will double down on stupidity an ignorance before that "
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185. "got what wrong? I never said he was guilty"
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188. "LOL. You live to throw rocks and hide your hand. "
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197. "so you can’t provide a post where I said Jay was guilty"
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Now, I DEFINITELY clowned your ass for asking some questions that were just plain old dumb.


but aint shit to hide, just point to a post where I said Jay was guilty.

and I posted a ton in this thread because I had some time off..


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186. "so we cool with grown men picking up 15 year olds from high school?"
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https://x.com/Q4quise/status/1754734555288994085

It's perfectly acceptable for a teenager to be working one on one with a man writing overtly sexual lyrics and wearing overtly sexual clothes?

And before Buddy come in here with some apologist bullshit, please sir directly tell me that that behavior is fine. Tell me you would be perfectly ok with a 15 year old female member of your family being picked up at school to work intimately with a grown ass man?

This has nothing to do spreading rumors about Foxy or trying make something true that's not, it's about acknowledging the reality of the situation.

Like it's so surreal to me that a guy who at a minimum was in his 30s dating a 19 year old, allegedly had a son with a 15 year old (don't know if that's his son but why would he refuse to take a DNA test to prove the kid isn't his?), has consistently had rumors about him messing around with young starlets, and is associated with not one but two fucking pedophiles is given all the grace in the world, and to acknowledge his red flags is "bRiNgInG a BlAcK mAn DoWn"

The way I feel about this situation is I don't know if this man is innocent or guilty but there is a lot of circumstantial evidence pointing to him being in inappropriate relationships with underage or very young women, and he's had the money and power to keep it quiet for a long time. To pretend otherwise is exactly how predators are able to keep preying.

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187. "Now that you have moved the goal post. I'll bite. "
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Sure. I wouldn't allow my 15 year old kid, boy or girl, be a rap artist period. I definitely wouldn't have allowed a 15 year old daughter to do a song like ain't no nigga. Absolutely not.

So that's an easy discussion we can agree on.

What I don't agree with is because Jay-Z made that song (and knowing Foxy said he didn't anything inappropriate), that isn't evidence that he raped a 13 year old.

And now you are saying you don't know if he is guilty or innocent but that's not where you started. #152 you are talking about a "raped 13 year old."

Then talking about some tabloid claim of him having a 15 year old child. Why would anyone submit to a paternity test from a random person claiming to be their child? You know that if someone really had a strong claim for paternity, they could go to court and get a judge to order a paternity test, right?

You just looking hard for something to cling to slander this man.

ANd here is the thing. I am not here arguing that Jay-Z is a saint or would never do anything like this, I am saying stop coming up with bogus, made up stuff. 3 second video clips, memes, questionable lyrics and associations isn't proof of anything. Until you have anything substantial, it's all BS.



>https://x.com/Q4quise/status/1754734555288994085
>
>It's perfectly acceptable for a teenager to be working one on
>one with a man writing overtly sexual lyrics and wearing
>overtly sexual clothes?
>
>And before Buddy come in here with some apologist bullshit,
>please sir directly tell me that that behavior is fine. Tell
>me you would be perfectly ok with a 15 year old female member
>of your family being picked up at school to work intimately
>with a grown ass man?
>
>This has nothing to do spreading rumors about Foxy or trying
>make something true that's not, it's about acknowledging the
>reality of the situation.
>
>Like it's so surreal to me that a guy who at a minimum was in
>his 30s dating a 19 year old, allegedly had a son with a 15
>year old (don't know if that's his son but why would he refuse
>to take a DNA test to prove the kid isn't his?), has
>consistently had rumors about him messing around with young
>starlets, and is associated with not one but two fucking
>pedophiles is given all the grace in the world, and to
>acknowledge his red flags is "bRiNgInG a BlAcK mAn DoWn"
>
>The way I feel about this situation is I don't know if this
>man is innocent or guilty but there is a lot of circumstantial
>evidence pointing to him being in inappropriate relationships
>with underage or very young women, and he's had the money and
>power to keep it quiet for a long time. To pretend otherwise
>is exactly how predators are able to keep preying.
>
>


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190. "since we being pedantic I never said who raped her."
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And in at least two posts I explicitly said I don't know if he's guilty or not.

But I do know I'm not going to assume he's innocent just because he's Jay-Z and running to handwave away any of his previous misdeeds serves no one except other predators.

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192. "The paternity thing is beyond stupid"
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Because if this kid was serious he would simply do a genealogy test and see who pops up as his relatives.

It's 2024, not 1994.

  

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194. "now folks defending Jay are predators. You throw that term around tooo"
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loosely for me.


>And in at least two posts I explicitly said I don't know if
>he's guilty or not.
>
>But I do know I'm not going to assume he's innocent just
>because he's Jay-Z and running to handwave away any of his
>previous misdeeds serves no one except other predators.
>
>


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198. "I know you're trolling me now "
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In no form or fashion did I call anybody who defends Jay a predator, but you already know that.

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199. "dude makes everything about himself "
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clearly you said “other” predators

buddy has asked dumb questions and anytime someone answers them its seen as an admission of Jay raping because he lacks reading comprehension skills

Not one person in here has said Jay is guilty.



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212. "Yall make personal attacks, then complaint I make everything about me. S..."
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I started just giving my personal opinion and yall clowns want to come in taking personal shots at me and how I make my living. Then mad I bark back. SMH.


And the idea not one person in here has said Jay is guilty is laughable. Who is the rapist ShyGul is referring to when she talks about a "RAPED 13 year old victim"?

Yall just not standing behind what yall are implying. Got all the energy for anything that points at his guilt, quiet as hell when facts come out that dispute it.

Again, it's all a lot of throwing rocks and hiding your hand like a gossipy knitting circle.


>clearly you said “other” predators
>
>buddy has asked dumb questions and anytime someone answers
>them its seen as an admission of Jay raping because he lacks
>reading comprehension skills
>
>Not one person in here has said Jay is guilty.
>
>
>
>


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213. "this nigga.. lol"
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all you do is talk about yourself like living in NYC gives you license to ill on niggas talking about a story.

“I’m a lawyer, I’m outside, yall aint been outside”

and as soon as someone jokes you for that dumb shit you get in your feels.

Sit yo ass down nigga. lol

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200. "Jigga's efforts to get case dismissed denied by judge"
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https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/27/entertainment/jay-z-legal-case/index.html

  

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203. "well that's inconsistent with what some people were saying"
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201. "RE: As A Grammy Voter Attending the Grammy's in NY"
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a few years back, I can say that my wife and I had our credentials checked for EVERYTHING. The event itself, the after party's, etc.

I also have friends who have been part of the Production crew for VMA's, Girls Rock and other large scale industry events, with similar experiences.

All I am going to say is that from my experience, I find it HIGHLY unlikely that someone without a ticket, press pass, credentials, is getting into these events unchecked.

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204. "her story is that she tried to get in but wasn’t able to"
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which is how she ended up taking to a limo driver.

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206. "RE: her story is also that she acknowledges inconsistencies"
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https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/jay-z-accuser-allegation-inconsistencies-made-mistakes-1235205599/?fbclid=IwY2xjawHlH9xleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHQkfxCHjP5Aqa3a6CRQxdRZ7Fumin61X93jS9LGQfQyNjH1SsxmgTiVq7Q_aem_Q1XP6_85e88BZ0O0JSyEBg

"After interviewing both Doe and her father, NBC pointed out that while she claimed her father picked her up after the alleged sexual assault, he said he didn’t remember doing that and doesn’t recall driving the more than five hours it would have taken to get from their home to the location of the alleged attack."

"Doe also alleged that she spoke to musician Benji Madden at the 2000 MTV Video Music Awards afterparty in New York City, where she claimed she was sexually assaulted. The outlet confirmed that neither Benji nor his brother Joel attended the event that year."

She described Benji's tattoo and a conversation, but he was on tour and not at any event in NYC that year.

Again, from what I know about these events and after parties from personal experience, they aren't just letting any random person in, especially letting them mingle with the likes of famous folks. If she had said she was snuck in a back doorway and whisked away to a bedroom in the basement, it'd probably be a little more believable.

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208. "yeah, her story has major holes"
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just pointing out that the story was she tried to sneak in but couldn't.

and I would think limo's would be on side streets not right out front.

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211. "RE: her story is also that she acknowledges inconsistencies"
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i can confirm benji and joel were not at the MTV video awards that year...lol.

They old friends of mine... they were probably at they mom's house watching it.

You take the blue pill, the story ends. You wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill, you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes.

  

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207. "RE: The Location of Radio City Music Hall"
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Also makes it highly unlikely that limo's were lined up outside waiting.

6th Avenue is a MAJOR street in Manhattan.

Add a Red Carpet and that street is most definitely blocked off and paparazzi is making it damn near impossible for anything but foot traffic after a drop off.

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209. "I cant even remember the last time I saw a rapper hop out an actual limo"
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That's really some 80s shit

  

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210. "There is video of JLo and Diddy hopping out a limo at these VMA’s"
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https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/video/jennifer-lopez-and-puff-daddy-arriving-to-the-2000-mtv-news-footage/597208454

well, it looks like a limo

I swear yall really think 2000 was last week. Limos were still a thing at these events

they werent in MPV’s or Ubering back then.

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205. "a Rocafella videographer said the same. 13 years old at that."
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