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Subject: "If the music biz is this messy why wasn't TEVIN allowed to be great?" Previous topic | Next topic
The Bobblehead Man
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"If the music biz is this messy why wasn't TEVIN allowed to be great?"


          

At this point we CAN'T say it had anything to do with his sexual activities. Was it some type of major disagreement with his handlers?

  

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I wonder if the real problem was his lack of "hip-hop" appeal
Mar 09th 2024
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Yeah the new look was nah
Mar 09th 2024
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cause the rules aint the same for everyone
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Basically
Mar 09th 2024
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      Do you remember his career?
Mar 09th 2024
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           Of course I do. I'm in my mid 40s.
Mar 09th 2024
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I think he was too free
Mar 09th 2024
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Is he still putting out music?
Mar 09th 2024
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prolly because his fanbase was mostly teenage girls
Mar 09th 2024
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Tevin didn't have enough charisma imo
Mar 09th 2024
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P Diddy produced his Back to the World (1996) album
Mar 09th 2024
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marketing issues...his image wasnt quite right
Mar 09th 2024
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It’s the name.
Mar 09th 2024
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Thanks for the responses. My mistake is that I'm comparing him
Mar 10th 2024
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his association with Prince maybe? i don't know....just taking a stab
Mar 11th 2024
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Who is the most zesty biggest star?
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Definitely Little Richard
Mar 11th 2024
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RE: Love dude but....
Mar 15th 2024
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The problem was his age. You had Luther who was old af and gay
Mar 18th 2024
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Seemed like he got his shot, but just wasn't cut out for it
Mar 15th 2024
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The Bobblehead Man
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Sat Mar-09-24 09:54 AM

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1. "I wonder if the real problem was his lack of "hip-hop" appeal"
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Hip-hop was taking over. "Back to The World" was a really good song but it felt outdated and his new look didn't work.

  

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3CardMolly
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Sat Mar-09-24 11:27 AM

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5. "Yeah the new look was nah"
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Almost felt like he was broke.

  

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BrooklynWHAT
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Sat Mar-09-24 10:03 AM

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2. "cause the rules aint the same for everyone"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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Boogie Stimuli
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Sat Mar-09-24 10:06 AM

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3. "Basically"
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The Bobblehead Man
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Sat Mar-09-24 10:10 AM

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4. "Do you remember his career?"
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Do you think he was moving differently from his handlers?

It's all questionable now, because Usher came in right after him. I don't think homeboy you're cosigning is even old enough to know about Tevin Campbell like that.

  

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Boogie Stimuli
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10. "Of course I do. I'm in my mid 40s."
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I know Brooklyn is younger than us, but his statement is true.
Sometimes people just accept things from one person that they won't accept from another. Why didn't Patrice Rushen get the love other female artists got? It's just not in fate's cards for some people for whatever reason.

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3CardMolly
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6. "I think he was too free"
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They didnt know what he would do or say and that was too much of a risk, esp if he exposed a money machine or money machine group promoted as heterosexual ruffnecks with a majority female audience.

  

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Adwhizz
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Sat Mar-09-24 12:51 PM

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7. "Is he still putting out music?"
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Assuming his voice held up he could probably get with the right producers and drop some heat now.

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legsdiamond
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8. "prolly because his fanbase was mostly teenage girls "
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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shygurl
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Sat Mar-09-24 02:12 PM

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9. "Tevin didn't have enough charisma imo"
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He could obviously sing, but even if you play the game and have the talent, if you don't have that thing...the personality to set you apart from other people...the special quality that makes you stand out on stage, it'll be hard to last.

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luminous
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11. "P Diddy produced his Back to the World (1996) album"
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And he was never the same again...

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mikediggz
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Sat Mar-09-24 07:31 PM

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12. "marketing issues...his image wasnt quite right"
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13. "It’s the name. "
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If he was Kevin Tambell, he’d still be bustin’ up the Billboard charts.



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The Bobblehead Man
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14. "Thanks for the responses. My mistake is that I'm comparing him"
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to the R&B child star that came after him. It's most likely the tiny twists and smokers lips killed whatever marketability he had.

  

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FLUIDJ
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Mon Mar-11-24 05:56 AM

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15. "his association with Prince maybe? i don't know....just taking a stab"
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Buddy_Gilapagos
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16. "Who is the most zesty biggest star?"
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I just don't think you can become that big of a music star if you are that zesty. You can write off a lot when he is kid but when you get older its harder to conceal that side of yourself. Even Little Richard and Luthor had plausible deniability that they were into women.

TC became a hard sell after he caught that rap for solicitation.


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Boogie Stimuli
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17. "Definitely Little Richard"
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Idk if you know how "zesty" he was at his height, but there's really no one comparable. RIP to the genius, innovator, emancipator, etc. tho. People had never seen or heard anything like him.

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18. "RE: Love dude but...."
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Fri Mar-15-24 10:07 AM by double 0

          

Was he ever a strong enough conduit for the songs being written during that time?

Mid-late 90s specfically

On one side you have squeaky clean Boys II Men, pop darlings who can get ALL the straight forward R&B crooner smashes but still came through a "hip hop, new jack swing, can dance vibe" before locking in on ballads

On the opposite side you have R Kelly, who can WRITE, dance, hang with rappers and be Grittier, Raunchy.

Then came USHER, younger, can dance and was already shirt offing at 15

So if I am a songwriter in the mid-late 90s IMO there are a ton of more options to give my song to before we get to Tevin. And I think w/o a SUPER strong advocate manager those great records just go elsewhere.

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20. "The problem was his age. You had Luther who was old af and gay"
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but we didn’t care because his songs were dope af.

being a shy little kid who came out at 18 or 20

who is he singing to now?

if he had more hits them maybe but wasn’t no one really trying to hear a gay dude singing love songs to women when we now knew he wasn’t into them.

but if Can We Talk comes on? We still singing that shit because it was a dope ass song.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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flipnile
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Fri Mar-15-24 02:38 PM

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19. "Seemed like he got his shot, but just wasn't cut out for it"
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Kinda like some basketball players get the green light to shoot and do whenever they want on the court, but that doesn't mean they are gonna be Kobe or Lebron. Some dudes get that chance and stay going 4-18 from the field w/ 6 turnovers.

  

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