We heard the term come up again most recently with Katt Williams calling Kevin Hart an industry plant but what does it even mean?

I google it and Wikipedia describes it in terms of an artist who "who become popular through nepotism, inheritance, wealth, and their connections in the music industry rather than on their own merits"

But that doesn't describe Kevin Hart. Or Drake (another one I've heard described as "Industry Plant".

If there is any artist that is an industry plant I guess I would say that it's maybe Vanilla Ice or Milli Vanilli. Like they were dreamed up in a lab somewhere but it didn't take long for folks to see through it.

Even if the term vaguely means someone or group that the industry dreamed up in a lab and foisted on the public like Vanilla Ice or Milli Vanilli, that definition also describes groups like the Supremes, En Vogue, and a ton of boy and girl groups. Are they all Industry Plants?

What do you think?

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...and regular folks that the industry is trying to force-feed the public like Ice Spice.

I'd put any artist with a supersized marketing campaign behind them in the 'industry plant' category.

Would Michael Jackson have been THE Michael Jackson without the huge marketing machine behind him? What about U2? Taylor Swift?

If Basquiat didn't have the connections that he did he'd be some talented, yet obscure painter right now. If Andy Warhol didn't have his connects he'd probably be a nobody.

Talent only gets one so far in the arts. It's just obvious when someone untalented gets the machine behind them.

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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

...because only a small part of success in the music, film, fashion, fine art, etc. industries is based on actual talent and merit. It's just obvious when you see successful untalented people in those industries, and hard to see when the successful artist is extremely talented.

From that perspective, almost everyone that's 'big' is big because they have the machine behind them. Almost everyone that makes it big is a "plant" of some sort, whether talented or untalented.

Actual organic success in the arts industries is as rare as hen's teeth.

and of course over time MJ became the bad guy.

but Prince was the one pushing back at record companies. MJ did the same thing and we see how that turned out.

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although Sofia is quite talented in her own right (at least in directing. she's one of the worst actors ever.)


>If Basquiat didn't have the connections that he did he'd be
>some talented, yet obscure painter right now.

If Michaelangelo didn't have the patronage that he did he'd be some talented, yet obscure sculptor / painter right now.


>Talent only gets one so far in the arts. It's just obvious
>when someone untalented gets the machine behind them.

True. However, most of the artists you named are incredibly talented. You're painting with an extremely broad brush here.

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There are two ways a band makes it

1) long road of building an authentic fan base through live shows, extensive touring, building rapport with like-minded acts, then eventually getting discovered, first by the cutting edge of tastemakers, then the money / industry. There is no need to create an image or 'sell' an artist or band like this because there is already public support and critical acclaim

2) a record label, industry mogul has the means and funds to astroturf the 'discovery' stage by planting the artist or band into the public sphere with a favorable review in a large publication, by paying Funkmaster Flex to play the artist's lead single 500 times in a week, by celebrity association, by exposure through the rumor-mill etc.

I would say what was done in the past with payola in radio, when extended to the modern sphere of influence, could be considered 'planting' an artist in the public sphere without the long, arduous road to 'blowing up' as it were

tons of boy bands and novelty groups have been made like this in the past

Is Biggie a Plant? He had Puffy putting all sorts of muscle behind him. Diddy is the one who decided he wasn't just a hood but ladies loving Big Poppa.

Once a record label signs an artist, their whole purpose is to put money and promotion behind them and cultivate their image.


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

I don't think biggie counts because the lore says he was in the streets and made a decision to go the rap route, then he made a demo, then he (Mister Cee) shopped the demo, which was heard by an editor of The Source, etc. etc.

how Puff changed his image to sell is part of the biz, and I agree Big would never be considered selling out despite it not being his real demeanor

Pac too. He wasn't a plant. Started as a dancer for Digital Underground. But how he portrayed himself for 2pacalypse now, then Strictly 4, then Me Against the World, and finally Death Row, when you look back at it, may seem a little manufactured? but would not be worthy of an industry-plant label

For every De-La there's a Vanilla Ice in rap, I guess is my point. Some acts build a legacy through hard work, others are flash-in-the-pan novelty acts with a fake backstory

One dude I can think of is Red Foo maybe, who's Berry Gordy's kid. He had an underground single that got played to death in LA without them ever having a following or doing shows or freestyles on the radio. Then he disappears and reforms as LMFAO. Slightly plantish

i think it's more like when Kanye called Diddy the Fed:
https://youtu.be/6nmxVzQxLRk?si=dDMVwqPvh1YDR6_j

or CEO of Roc Nation being a DEA informant
https://www.tiktok.com/@jsttngz/video/7333017666975845674

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Will they come for Jay once he hits 70?

Will Ice Spice file for bankruptcy in 5 years?

We all know some of these folks aren’t actually talented and its a huge team behind them and like Cube said.. “they’ll get a new nigga next year”

R Kelly was free af until he stopped making hits and all a sudden people remembered he peed on somebody.

Who will het to keep their money?

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There's typically a fake background & biography that's been constructed. Like the Monkees or some shit.

There’s no deception in being a young comedian taking years to grind out an act or a former child actor turned into a massive pop/hip-hop star. Even if their wealth & success seemingly appeared out of nowhere, artists like Drake & Kevin Hart still have a clear origin story.

when it comes to KH.

I think Katt means the studios picked him as the “guy” so he gets a ton of influence on who gets through those studio gates.

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Hollywood is a business and businesses make investments and bets on people.

The whole industry plant thing just sounds like people forgot or never learned how all of this works.


I think what Katt gets at Kevin Hart about is the fact that Kevin Hart plays ball and treats it like a business/job. He is agreeable. He shows up on time. He is always game. Some would call it just being professional, the negative way to put it is he does white folks bidding.




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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

how many Black comedians has Kevin Hart had in his movies?

I don’t know the answer but its prolly not a lot.

Think about Martin and how many comedians he helped mentor? Def Comedy Jam had a trubute and everyone came out to show Martin Lawrence love.

That’s prolly what Katt and others are talking about.

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Nobody is obligated to help anybody else, no matter how selfish it looks.

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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

You brought up Eddie.

The whole Katt and Mo’Nique thing with KH is about giving other folks opportunities and fake promises of working together.

So I simply provided the difference between the 2. Eddie “gave back” and put people in positions of power.

Its not Eddie’s story because Eddie put a lot of Black talent in his movies.

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he brought up Eddie as an example and I’m telling you exactly why Eddie isn’t what he thinks he was at that time.

Has Kevin Hart even had a good movie in his catalog?

No one is obligated to put anyone else on but those who do, tend to build better relationships and have more respect from their peers.

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and it sounds like you are making the point that an industry plant is someone studios designate as the "It" guy who ends up with the Hollywood machine behind them. I am saying that's true of every "It" person or celebrity in general. You don't become a huge celebrity unless the machine gets behind you.

It sounds like what you are talking about is what happens ONCE that machine is behind you. I agree Eddie did way more with the machine behind him, especially about putting black people on, then KH. No one is disputing that.

My point though is that just because the machine got behind KH doesn't make him an industry plant, that's just how the machine works and how it worked for Eddie and everyone else.

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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

If you read my response to JayEmm I disagreed with KH fitting his description.

I just gave my opinion on why I believe Katt and Mo'Nique are bashing Kevin Hart. I never said Katt was correct in calling him a plant.

but you are incorrect in bringing up Eddie in regards to what EYE posted.

KH ain't putting people on or making great movies for US to enjoy. He's making trash and chasing a check. Which makes other people in the industry wonder if that nigga is about the culture or just about himself and making sure these good white folks get their money back.

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You don't have infer what KH said (I don't know what Monique said) just go to the clip.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9Mun1d_fkI

He describes KH as someone with no background on the LA COmedy scene that was given all these opportunities because he plays ball. He does their bidding. Fake Famous. An Industry plant. That's relevant to this discussion and that's why i mentioned it.

You saying that KW's criticism of KH is he doesn't put people on. Where did he say that?






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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

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he showcases a lot of talent on his various platforms and produced comedy specials for a number of folks

(Including Lil Rel's RELevent which is probably the hardest I've laughed at a comedy joint in recent memory)

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I know he's done a lot of movies but you rarely see an ensemble of comedians making some comedy gold.

All I'm saying is Buddy brought up Eddie as an example and its actually a blueprint for how a man in a power position uses his influence to put a shit load of Black comedians on screen in good movies.

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>when it comes to KH.
>
>I think Katt means the studios picked him as the “guy” so
>he gets a ton of influence on who gets through those studio
>gates.


- I get what Katt means. I'm just not sure he realizes his claim doesn't accurately fit what an industry plant supposedly is, though.

I think that is a better label, tho it sounds harsh.

I just watched Kevin Harts last movie where he is an art thief and that shit was fucking terrible. Dude needs to say no to some of these projects. I know he doesn’t give a fuck obviously but damn man, you should have enough power to make a good
movie.

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like there's nothing really there, and when you look a little deeper you see how many other doors she tried to enter through before she landed on "viral NY hit"

Just because you all never heard of her or don't like her music doesn't mean there is nothing there. You can just be old.

My kids love her and been playing her for months. She's part of a whole NY Drill scene.

She's just a new act that blew up that doesn't target yall.

She's got a dad who's a failed rapper so it's not surprising he's been trying to get her put on but how is that any different from MJJ or any other dadager or mom-ager?

Like I don't under how trying to get through so many doors turns into she is a plant.


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

but gotdamn he had some women at his show and he is talented as fuck”

Kids like a lot of wack shit. I watched that ladies in hip hop documentary and some of those women are talented af. Ice Spice aint one of them IMO

but she got a phatty and she lite skint.

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"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"

She rapped over a track of her own voice and turned around every 2 minutes to shake her ass. It was very unwatchable...

https://youtube.com/shorts/qmdsgbec2V8?si=xQminKeSGMsBgwnt

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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

To me it just sounds like people want to showcase having more insider information than they really have.

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it comes off as bitterness from the accuser. like they're questioning why such and such is more popular than themselves or questioning why they aren't as popular as said plant. especially if the accused is considered to be less talented.

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

No...

The entire f*cking entertainment industry was created on people plucking folks from obscurity and making them famous. That is how it was built. Marilyn Monroe didn't go viral on tik tok and then get in movies. She was "discovered", coached and built to be a star.

Have we never heard of mMtown?

This idea of "nepo babies" being plants is also BS. There is a reason Rich Hill didn't pop off or ANY of Diddy's kids but Miley Cyrus is still standing.

You can spend ALL the money in the world and have ALL the industry connects and it still not work. In fact it feels MORE rare for an artist that is SUPER connected in the industry to work.

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"Industry Plant" just equals somebody I don't like or somebody who had a better career than me.

In music that tag at least makes some sense since the claim is that supposedly "Independent" artists are secretly backed by major labels but being presented as an organic movement.

If I'm watching a major motion picture, obviously everyone acting in that project had to be hired/picked by the studio.

Also once you're hired audiences have to actually fuck with you/watch your projects in order to KEEP getting work.

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He might’ve already been in LA/Hollywood during the Lil Kev the Bastard days and wasn’t in many east coast clubs.

Fucking for bests may be more prevalent than industry plants.

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I think the thing about KH is dude is a corporate cat who has chosen to play ball with White Hollywood in a way a bunch of comedians and Katt would never. I think Drake is similarly Industry Friendly.

They can move through a room full of white folks easily.

To some it's a skill, to some its selling out.


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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

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EVERY SINGLE TIME I hear this phrase, I think of Christina Aguilera based on the storyline that she was giving it up and turning it loose everywhere to get music from people. Of course I don't know if its true or not! But I kept on hearing about it without trying to hear about it! Hehe

there are artists that are secretly signed to major labels and they carry on without announcing their affiliations until "the time is right"

some very dope/talented artists are backed by a machine. its not always the obvious ones.

I literally know some of them.



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How is that a plant though?


This has ALWAYS existed in the game and the nature of it was to grow something from obscurity to stardom.

Even with industry funding an act can fail at any time.

A plant guarantees success and that just isnt the case

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it just puts them in a really good position to hit a homerun but some still strike out.

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Again,

This was an industry that traditionally thrived on plucking people from obscurity and hopefully making them stars. In a more disconnected world and A&R finds a cool band in a dive bar and signs them, gets them with a producer/songwriter that transforms them into stars. They get the deal, money, studio time, etc to figure it out.

The general public had no clue about the machinations of the game. They were simply presented a final product.

It doesn't matter who you know ultimately because the market decides. So I don't see why there is even a benefit to underwrite an "industry plant".

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>We heard the term come up again most recently with Katt
>Williams calling Kevin Hart an industry plant but what does it
>even mean?
>
>I google it and Wikipedia describes it in terms of an artist
>who "who become popular through nepotism, inheritance, wealth,
>and their connections in the music industry rather than on
>their own merits"
>
>But that doesn't describe Kevin Hart. Or Drake (another one
>I've heard described as "Industry Plant".
>
>If there is any artist that is an industry plant I guess I
>would say that it's maybe Vanilla Ice or Milli Vanilli. Like
>they were dreamed up in a lab somewhere but it didn't take
>long for folks to see through it.
>
>Even if the term vaguely means someone or group that the
>industry dreamed up in a lab and foisted on the public like
>Vanilla Ice or Milli Vanilli, that definition also describes
>groups like the Supremes, En Vogue, and a ton of boy and girl
>groups. Are they all Industry Plants?
>
>What do you think?
>
>
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I wanna go to where the martyrs went
the brown figures on the walls of my apart-a-ment...

like Ememinem too me in that he is one of the few artists who I regularly heard before he got signed.

I also heard and saw a couple of Jack Harlow independent stuff before he eventually blew up.


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

No way these guys are getting production and the Soul Assassins cosign without James Caan's foot in the door

The official story is Evidence got Quincy Jones to listen to the demo but cmon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fNpEWvdCDU

This is classic Hollywood nepo plantery

to my kids.


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

something still don't sit right with me about this person...
shit seems forced and planted...

Can she really shred a guitar?

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if not, how'd you get to this theory?

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

or you just don’t have an explanation for your theory?

Stand by yo shit FluidJ

dont be scared

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we both just bullshitting.

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

sounded convincing

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"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"

I know she was big in country but I always felt like the Kanye rant at the MTV awards was planned.

Kanye is the villain
Beyonce is the peacemaker
Taylor is the victim that needs to be saved.

She skyrockets to pop stardom and now she is owns the NFL, lol

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this is wild af lolol

yall gonna be mad af when Bey and Taylor do a collab lol

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

maybe a slight buzz if that.

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who is the mastermind lol

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

That is who planned it.

Artist like Taylor Swift can carry a whole label when they go mega super star.

While Country new who Taylor was she was still relatively unknown to a lot of folks who don’t follow music closely.

Next day the whole world felt sorry for her ass.

She been singing about breaking up with niggas ever since

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and prone to going on long winded rants,I doubt he would have managed to keep that conspiracy to himself all this time if he had been approached by some shadowy Media mogul asking him to sabotage Swift at an award show


Also this thread made me remember that whole debacle.

WTF at this video being allowed on YT uncensored
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7FCgw_GlWc

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I mean…

when Ye was saying wild shit did we believe him? He prolly did say some shit back then and we just called him crazy

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Ol' Dirty Bastard running up on Shawn Colvin and thought to himself "Yeaaa I'm gonna do that! Everybody's going to love Ye after this!"

That's about as far as the "planning" went

R.I.P. Loud But Wrong Guy
Dec 29th 2009 - Dec 17th 2017

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

Big black masculine man (and yes I know it's Kanye but visually that's how they are going to take it) and a little fragile blonde woman. She immediately became the super supreme victim, and her post Kanye sells show that imo.

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makes America want to rescue Taylor

and Beyonce plays peace maker just to make sure her white fans don’t turn their backs on her.

Didn’t she give TS a chance to speak the next time she had the

What a performance by all parties.

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>Big black masculine man (and yes I know it's Kanye but
>visually that's how they are going to take it) and a little
>fragile blonde woman. She immediately became the super supreme
>victim, and her post Kanye sells show that imo.

Yep. This seems more reasonable.

I very much buy into the idea that Kanye was feeling gassed up considering how 'powerful' he figured Jay and Bey to be. And when Bey didn't win that award, you KNOW snarky comments were rolling all around that area at the show. And then Kanye Kanye'd that shit and assumed everyone would have his back, no one would think it was a huge deal, and it would go away. But nope: black dude being a bully to a young wight innocent tender girl did NOT blow over/go away AT ALL. It was a special fuck around/find out episode for Chicago's own.

Real talk, I was watching that show live. I too thought it was bullshit when Beyonce didn't win. I figured she had it in the bag.

SURE, they could've planned it. But I don't buy it. Basic 'cism seems more logical and believable.

Hell, WWE is running a story like this RIGHT NOW. Cody is Swiftie. The Rock is Kanye. And that crowd was quick af to hate on The Rock. Like...too fuggin quick. IJS!

I had this feeling when i saw his instagram page. most pics have now been deleted, but his earlier pics were all normal low quality pics. then all of a sudden his later ones were highly produced photo shoots and many were not even promoting anything.

and his name never fit his persona. he has a name that makes you think he would be a conscious rapper.

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and her rise to fame is hard to fathom if not for a concerted effort to push some push some truly ignorant shit, culminating with shorty really twerking barefoot and pregnant on stage.

This was definitely different from Ratchet Rap. Megan can actually rap. Latto can actually rap. Lola Brooke can actually rap. Nikki of course can rap her ass off.

Red couldn't find the beat with GPS and a fvcking Golden Retriever.

I for the life of me cannot understand how she exploded and ascended so fast.

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Like Pound Town went viral because it was so absurd. Like a Novelty Song. Maybe a catchy beat but not taking it totally seriously like Gangum Style. Or Steve Martin's King Tut song. Or What does the Fox Say. Blanking other examples.

Now I do think her career got extended because Drake has this thing where he races to collab with what he thinks is the most authentic thing on the streets like 21 Savage, Migos, Young Thug, etc. Maybe he was in on the joke, maybe not.


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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"