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"Talking cars (2024 edition)"


          

Let's talk cars (the old thread disappeared. )

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Subject Author Message Date ID
I need a NEW car - what the thinking?
Jan 22nd 2024
1
I'm happy with the CR-V
Jan 23rd 2024
10
The one downside I have heard is cabin noise on hills/mountains
Jan 24th 2024
14
It does get noisy at higher speeds and on mountains
Jan 24th 2024
15
Stupid question: How does "low fuel" meter work in these cars?
Feb 04th 2024
45
The trim in newer CRVs isn't as good as the older models
Jan 29th 2024
40
I bought the 2024 CR-V Hybrid Touring
Jan 27th 2024
29
      Congrats!
Jan 27th 2024
30
      In the cold light of the day after, I thinlk I oculd have done better
Jan 28th 2024
31
           Interesting - that’s good info
Feb 04th 2024
46
      That's dope, congrats!
Jan 29th 2024
33
      good shit, my guy
Feb 08th 2024
58
Anyone have thoughts on the Mitsubishi Outlander?
Jan 24th 2024
23
      I literally forgot Mitsubishi existed
Jan 24th 2024
24
           Same! That’s why I looked it up
Jan 24th 2024
26
How real was the Tesla/battery fiasco in cold weather?
Jan 22nd 2024
2
This is my wife's first winter with her Model Y.
Jan 22nd 2024
4
I've been cosigning this generation of Pacifica...
Jan 22nd 2024
7
have the pacifica hybrid....can confirm its the shit
Jan 22nd 2024
9
      I remember that and I joked you
Jan 24th 2024
13
Temperature definitely has an impact on range/mileage on hybrids
Jan 23rd 2024
11
literally went to dealerships this weekend
Jan 22nd 2024
3
Check insurances rates on the Elantra
Jan 22nd 2024
5
that's a good point.
Jan 22nd 2024
6
Sucks that the waits are so long
Jan 23rd 2024
12
      you're right about the size thing
Jan 24th 2024
16
           Don't know much about VWs
Jan 24th 2024
17
           Honda turned me off with their low gas efficiency on their hybrids.
Jan 24th 2024
19
           Only VW I would spend my money on is a GTI at this point
Jan 24th 2024
21
           Find a mechanic that specializes in Euro cars
Jan 24th 2024
18
                you really wouldn't recommend the extended warranty?
Jan 24th 2024
20
                     they do need a decent amount of maintenance
Jan 24th 2024
27
                     Please get an extended warranty...
Jan 28th 2024
32
                          ^^THIS^^
Jan 29th 2024
34
                          so you think an aftermarket warranty would be ok?
Jan 29th 2024
36
                               okay, so I misunderstood...
Jan 29th 2024
37
1st true winter in quite some time...
Jan 22nd 2024
8
I’ve been waiting for more snow
Jan 24th 2024
25
      I set out early just to hit the roads before the plows came through...
Jan 24th 2024
28
how About motorcycles ?
Jan 24th 2024
22
Its been a minute...
Jan 29th 2024
35
I love my Suzuki V-Strom. Adventure bikes are pretty dope
Jan 31st 2024
44
I want a new grand Cherokee.
Jan 29th 2024
38
man, I rented on and loved it. My wife wife thought it was too big
Jan 29th 2024
39
      they are so dope inside!
Jan 31st 2024
43
Anyone leasing cars these days?
Jan 31st 2024
41
Pushing a ‘23 Subaru forester these days lol
Jan 31st 2024
42
Is there an age limit for buying rims?
Feb 04th 2024
47
depends on the rims.
Feb 04th 2024
48
I love matte black wheels….
Feb 04th 2024
49
as long as they look good..
Feb 05th 2024
50
      rims on hold because I got caught doing 86 in a 55 ☹️☹️
Feb 05th 2024
52
           In Missouri that’s $250 plus mandatory court appearance…
Feb 05th 2024
53
           ugh lol
Feb 05th 2024
55
           That's $490 in CA
Feb 05th 2024
56
           those new cars be floating.
Feb 08th 2024
59
                no, I am terrified to drive in it lol
Feb 09th 2024
61
                     I have a 2011 that shakes when I go above 80, lol
Feb 09th 2024
62
How do you feel about the Mazda CX-5 or CX-50?
Feb 05th 2024
51
not sure about those vehicles, but generally good overall.
Feb 05th 2024
54
I got a 2018 CX-5 for my wife back in 2021
Feb 05th 2024
57
lmao.. yeah, only the 2 tone Rav4’s look dope
Feb 08th 2024
60

handle
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1. "I need a NEW car - what the thinking?"
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I'm not ready for an electric car - hybrid is the I'm leaning.

Replacing a 2012 Honda Crosstour which is like a big-ass Accord that's also a few inches higher off the ground.
I'll probably get like $3k - $4k but maintenance cost keep going up every year now - seals in hard to reach places are breaking down. (https://www.kbb.com/honda/crosstour/2012/) Drives like a car. Bad gas mileage.

Love to keep the car around 40k or less if at all possible.

What to look at?
SUVs:
Honda CRV
Toyota RAV4
Toyota Venza
Lexus RX350
Hyundai Tucson

Cars:
Subaru Outback
Honda Accord
Toyota Crown (Expensive)
Toyota Prius (it's small)


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10. "I'm happy with the CR-V"
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It will not get the best mileage of the Hybrids but it drives well and the ride is so good. Space is good all around. I'm still using less gas than I was on my Elantra (up to half as much). I didn't test drive anything else on your list.

I kind of wish I went with the Touring version if only for wireless android auto. I don't know if the disconnects also happen with apple but it is annoying. I've had the same issues with different phones, cables and cars. Got a wireless android auto dongle, that disconnects too lol. I think the issues is on the usb connection on the car end. The dongle works well (although slow to connect) except for when I drive on lifted sections of the freeway. I can feel the bounce and it instantly starts disconnecting. Doesn't help that the cable is so short so the dongle just hangs from the port.

  

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14. "The one downside I have heard is cabin noise on hills/mountains"
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I hear it's loud on mountain roads because of the CVT.

It's still the closest thing to what I want because the MPG is great, it's roomy, it's comfortable, the stereo sounds good to me and while not "fun" to drive - it also isn't a drag.

I really wish I could rent one for a week or two - but no dealerships in town have it to rent - only Civics and Accords.

Not sure why USB does that in your, I'd definitely ask the dealer for help.

I drove a RAV4 this weekend and it's less roomy than the CR-V for sure.

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mista k5
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15. "It does get noisy at higher speeds and on mountains"
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I don't think it's horrible but it is noticeable.

Didn't think to ask the dealership about the USB. I just figured it's an Android thing since I have had the problem with different cars/cables/phones. Doesn't mean this port isn't bad.

  

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45. "Stupid question: How does "low fuel" meter work in these cars?"
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I've never had a car with a digital fuel tank meter.

In my old cars I knew that even when the fuel meter got down to "0" I had 15 miles or 20 miles before I actually ran out of gas.

Yesterday I had the car tell me it needed gas and I put 12 gallons in it filled it up.

Edmunds says the fuel tank capacity is 14.0 gal.

Does it work that way with a digital meter too? Or do you have to believe it more?

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40. "The trim in newer CRVs isn't as good as the older models"
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Mon Jan-29-24 05:10 PM by flipnile

          

More plastic-y, things more loose, noisier cabin, etc.

I know someone that upgraded (I *think* ~2014 to a ~2021) and that's one thing that jumped out immediately. Not sure if there are different CRV models or not. My pop also has an older CRV, but I'm not sure of the year. Still seems like a reliable Honda, however.

  

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29. "I bought the 2024 CR-V Hybrid Touring"
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Sat Jan-27-24 11:27 PM by handle

          

CR-V Hybrid Sport Touring SUV in color: Still Night Pearl

•Sticker price: $42,005
•Dealer discount: $2,500
•Selling price before dealer BS fees:$39,505

The dealer had added two packages for $995 each, or an addition $1990, which would have eatened that discount up.

I told them I wasn’t not interested in those packages, but if they could sell me an 8 year/120k mile extended Honda warranty for $2300 I’d do it.

Final selling price before taxes and fees was: $41,805,
($200 under MSRP and with a warranty until 2032.)

With tax, etc. etc, it was $45,583.20.

With the trade in value ($4500) and a down payment of %10 of the car value ($3,900) I ended up financing $37,183 with a 2.90% interest rate for 36 months with Honda Finance.

(And in my mind the selling price was not $41,805 but $40,490 because I’d have paid $1,315 this month to replace the tires and rotors on the Crosstour.)

I'm off to Youtube to watch demos on all the tech and settings!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zs2c9NMfG3Q

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30. "Congrats!"
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Honda CRV always seems like a can’t miss.

Curious how you arrived at those extended warranty figures in your negotiations?

  

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31. "In the cold light of the day after, I thinlk I oculd have done better"
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>Curious how you arrived at those extended warranty figures in
>your negotiations?

(As as preface, the 2024 CRV Hybrid Sport Touring is in HUGE demand in San Diego right now, limited stock available and lots of buyers. Last year you couldn't get one for MSRP, at all - it was at least a $2k premium.)

The cost of the extended warranty from the dealer was $2800. I know that I could get the warranty for around $1400 from an out of state online dealer like Saccucci Honda and Hyannis Honda .

The dealer would NOT remove a $795 "security system" fee no matter what I did - so I offered to buy the extended warranty in it's place for $2100 (which is about what I could get the plan online + the security system fee that would not wave) so that he made the same profit and I didn't walk away from the deal and go through it all again somewhere else. PLUS I have bought the Honda Care locally at that dealer so maybe they treat me a tiny bit better when I get service.

They countered at $2,300 so I bit.

Plus they offered me HIGHER than the HIGH KBB trade-in for my car with 162,000 miles, some small body damage, that needs 4 new tires and needs brakes done NOW. Realistically they should have offered $3,500.

So, I said to myself "The cost of the car WITH 8years/120k mile warranty is under MSRP" PLUS the trade-in was good and the dealership is walking distance from my house, and a 2.90% rate -- plus my car shopping will be "done." and I bought it.

I have 60 days to cancel the warranty - I'll think about that in a few weeks when the paperwork comes in - I could get that money back (which probably hits the salesman in the pocket a bit) and recoup around $900 by buying the warranty online.

Other ways I could done better:
1)I could have waited for them to get one in stock that had non-premium paint - which would have saved $405.

2)I could have sold my car as is to a private party. Or realistically I needed to do the back brakes and rotors and then sale to maximize profit. That would have cost $500 out of pocket, and I might have netted $1,000 or $2,000 more at best. But advertising, showing the car, dealing with the buyers, etc. wasn't a priority for me.

I never feel great after buying a car - it's always really stressful.

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46. "Interesting - that’s good info"
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Need to get any edges you can in dealing with these places, smh.

  

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33. "That's dope, congrats!"
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I will never forget dude at Acura laughing at me when I told him cars will eventually start selling for less than MSRP again.

Still not quite where it used to be but thats a good deal you got. I was so split on what color to get, that was one I really considered. It basically came down to which one was arriving that week.

Enjoy it!

  

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58. "good shit, my guy"
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the car market is absolutely ridiculous, since COVID started

so glad I got my car before all of that.

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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23. "Anyone have thoughts on the Mitsubishi Outlander?"
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I had an 07 that I got brand new and kept for 10 years. At the time it was a less expensive alternative to the CRV and Rav-4, but was a pretty similar vehicle and Mitsubishi had a much better warranty. So it was a good buy for me as I was just starting my career.

I know Mitsubishi seems to be a pretty obscure brand these days, but in looking for a new car this past fall, I got curious and looked them up - seems like it still offers good bang for your buck and looks really nice inside(I generally dislike the way all these crossover SUVs look on the outside).

Personally I was concerned with how these cars with all the new tech and turbo engines would hold up long term - I like to keep my vehicles as long as possible. So I went with more old school Toyota 4Runner partly for that reason - less tech that will break, a proven reliable engine, and a rep for going for 300,000+ miles.

I had a 14 Honda Accord. Great car, unfortunately rust started getting the best of it (I live in the snow belt and the salt they use on the roads is of the devil), and I moved on before it got bad. Shame, because it never had one issue in 7 years of driving it.

  

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24. "I literally forgot Mitsubishi existed"
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Watched some reviews:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27N31nvqPSs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3uAt0l2ZsY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlSJjHosV9M <-=PHEV review


tldr: It's a Nissan Rogue platform with a new engine for 2024.

It looks nice.

Also seems slow - 0-60 in 9+ seconds.
https://edmunds.com/mitsubishi/outlander/#:~:text=At%20the%20Edmunds%20test%20track,60%20mph%20in%209.7%20seconds.

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26. "Same! That’s why I looked it up "
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On some “I wonder if the Outlander is still made?”

  

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2. "How real was the Tesla/battery fiasco in cold weather?"
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Still looking at a Hybrid car and an EV for our next 2 vehicles.

I rented a Santa Fe, that thing was niiiice. Really liked it.

My cousin just copped a Toyota Venza. Also nice, real nice lines on that one.

Also looking at the Grand Cherokee 4XE.

lastly, hate to admit it, the fam really loved that Chrysler Pacifica. Never thought we would want a minivan but we all loved that joint.

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4. "This is my wife's first winter with her Model Y. "
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We're in Michigan where temps have been super cold for the last couple weeks. She got a new Model Y last March, when we started getting spring temps so this is our first time dealing with winter.

There's a range decrease, but not significant. We'd been getting around 310-315 miles of range when charging to 100% (which we rarely do), and for the last month or so the full charge range is around 270-280 miles. The only time we noticed at all was two weekends ago when she did a couple back to back trips. We typically keep the charging limit at 80%, and after a couple back to back trips (From Ann Arbor to Detroit and back, and then from Ann Arbor to Livonia, MI and back) she was at 18% which is super low for our experience.

We haven't even installed level charging at our house because charging and range has been that much of a non-factor. The only times we've taken it to a super charger has been in cases like this, because trickle-charging at home from 18% to 80% would take like 36-48 hours. So I took it to the super charger and went up to 90%, that took like 30 minutes or so.

So the one takeaway I have for winter battery drain is that on Friday night before the weekend when she's more likely to do a longer trip to increase the charging limit from 80 up to 90 or so. You can actually automatically do that from the app on a schedule. It does also give us a reason to go ahead and have an electrician install a NEMA outlet so we can have level 2 charging at home.

As a disclaimer, we have a garage so her car isn't being parked in the complete cold at night. That might cause more of a battery drain for people who live in apartments or don't have room for their cars in their garage.

  

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7. "I've been cosigning this generation of Pacifica..."
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..I'm not much for crossovers/minivans, but was forced to use the Pacifica for work several times over the last few years. Clearly the top of its class.


*skatin' the rings of saturn*


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9. "have the pacifica hybrid....can confirm its the shit"
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Tutu nu, vondo nos nu
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Nos nu ekta nos sepe ta, amen

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When we unite we hedge amen

  

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13. "I remember that and I joked you"
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then we rented one and we were like “ohhhhh, now we get it”

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11. "Temperature definitely has an impact on range/mileage on hybrids"
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On the CR-V I think I'm getting about 3 MPG less during the peak of winter and summer. Don't think it's a huge deal but noticeable.

  

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3. "literally went to dealerships this weekend"
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My car is a 2010 and it's basically on its last leg, so I wanted to price the cars I was looking at just in case this POS broke down. I want a hybrid, so it was between the Camry, Prius, and Elantra (with the Camry initially being my preference). Only accessory I want is a sun roof, so unfortunately that's forcing me to get the more premium models although I would be ok with a base model.

Approximate prices out the door:

Elantra = $33.5k
Camry = $35k
Prius = $36.5k

Approximate delivery times:

Elantra = Immediate to two weeks
Camry = 4-6 months
Prius = 9-12 months

Company promo interest rates:

Elantra = 4.99%
Camry = 5.99%
Prius = none (so average rates, which seem to be 6.5% to 7.5%)

So I walked in thinking that I wanted the Camry and not really paying attention to the others, but I walked out really really liking the Prius.

My hesitation is the loooonnng delivery time, and my fear my car will die before it gets delivered. I'd have to put down a $500 deposit, and I'd hate to lose it if I end up having to buy something else. Additionally, if my car does die, my best option would be the Elantra, and honestly it's kind of ugly imo though their warranty is better than Toyota. If I can't get the Toyota hybrids, then I am pretty sure I would just get a regular gas car, cause I can't go without a car. I'm still trying to decide how to proceed.

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5. "Check insurances rates on the Elantra "
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Although this model year may not be impacted by the issue with the anti theft debacle, it may not stop someone from trying to steal it thinking it can be easily boosted. I’ve heard some insurers may increase rates or not insure it at all.

  

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6. "that's a good point."
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Funnily enough I called my insurance agent today to see what it would cost to insure the Prius ($70 more a month), but I didn't even think about the other cars. Lol, I'm pretty set on Prius I think.

That Elantra was just so unattractive in real life it kind of turned me off.

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12. "Sucks that the waits are so long"
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The Prius looked like a good option but I was impatient and the size wasn't really gonna work for me.

I think you mentioned before your current is an Elantra which I could see how it would be comparable in size to the Prius. I would say move on the Prius if it works for you and just hope it all works out.

The Camry is kind of a boat compared to older Elantra's and Prius. It was one I considered getting.

I wanted a sunroof/moonroof but honestly I keep that shade closed all the time.

Elantra is the best value but the built quality really does improve when you jump to Honda or Toyota. I'm split on the looks of it. I kind of like it but I feel it wont age well.

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16. "you're right about the size thing"
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Both the Camry and the Elantra were bigger than I thought, and I kind of took it for granted how small my current car is and the ease of being able to park in small spaces.

Ultimately I really really really want the Prius, but I just can't bet on waiting a year for it to be delivered plus it's the most expensive car on my list. I wanted to get a hybrid, but unfortunately due to the wait and the lack of (cute) yet reasonably priced sedans (too scared to drive a SUV or truck 😬) I am going to get a VW Jetta.

Went over it with my divorced parents and they separately both emphasized that this is the most practical choice, and if my car dies before the Prius is delivered how fucked I would be without a car. Plus it being 10k less with the options I want is a big deal, and VW is having a promotion with 1.9% financing. And just as important, it has one of the best gas powered mpg out, 29/42. Imma test drive it this weekend, but I'm 95% sure it's what I'm going to get.

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17. "Don't know much about VWs"
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Do you not like how the current Honda's look or don't like the brand at all? They had inventory in my area which ended up being a big reason why I honed in on one.

  

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19. "Honda turned me off with their low gas efficiency on their hybrids."
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Its the reason why I didn't consider the Accord hybrid because I was surprised that their mpg was so low.

Then when I was looking for gas powered car, I just liked the Jetta and it's very good mileage plus the price.

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21. "Only VW I would spend my money on is a GTI at this point"
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I think that’s the only model still made in Germany.

The Farfegnugen has left the building.

  

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18. "Find a mechanic that specializes in Euro cars"
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I say this as a VW fan who has a 2011 CC and loved the idea of a VW. My wife will not let me buy another one due to the timing chain issue.

My timing chain went out and I had to buy a whole new/used engine. I did get that money back and then some in a lawsuit but my brother didn’t have suck luck. His son’s passatt kicked the can on his graduation night.. smh.

If you buy one PLEASE find a Euro mechanic. You will save time, money and all types of stress. VW are expensive once they are out of warranty. Dont get the extended warranty, its a scam. VW uses plastic parts to make the car lighter. Euro garages use beefier parts that last longer.

My engine light comes on much less often now. When I used the dealership my car was always going back to the shop.

My sister has a Volvo and she had problems with her engine. I found her a Sweedish mechanic and she is much happier. The dealership mechanics are ass.

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20. "you really wouldn't recommend the extended warranty?"
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One of the main criticisms I saw of VWs is the high rate of mechanical failures, so I considering getting it just to be safe. I'm really hoping I wont encounter too much of that with it being a new car, but we know how these companies are nowadays.

The tip about Euro mechanic is good advice, but I don't know how much luck I would have finding one being here in Appalachia, but I'll definitely keep an eye out.

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27. "they do need a decent amount of maintenance"
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but I’ve always been mad about the extended warranty because you can only use it at the dealership I believe..

and IMO they aren’t the best. They keep you coming back.

better to save money over the life of the loan and use that for the Euro mechanic. Start looking now if you really want the VW. These cars run great once you find one.


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32. "Please get an extended warranty..."
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with any used car that is out of the factory basic and powertrain warranties...but especially with a VW. I can't speak to which extended warranty Legs purchased, but there are MANY out there. Some dealerships only sell one brand, and some sell multiple ones...but I work in the industry and administer claims for an extended warranty company and I have never seen one that requires you to go back to the selling dealer...or even a dealership. But, yeah...just too many issues to be paying out of pocket. Look out for any VW with the 2.0l turbocharged joint. That engine is a grenade with the pin already pulled. It's in a TON of VWs and Audis. Other than that, electrical issues will be the biggest bugaboos. Look into a CPO (certified pre-owned) one if possible. At the very least, the manufacturer has some skin in the game, because they are declaring that even though this vehicle is used...we vouch (sorta) for its roadworthiness. Good luck!

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34. "^^THIS^^"
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*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

  

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36. "so you think an aftermarket warranty would be ok?"
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I brought new, and I ended up turning down the warranty mainly because I am a lower milage driver, and I honestly don't think I am going to keep this car for more than five or six years (really wanted a hybrid). I feel like the factory warranty should be ok for the level of driving I do.

I was thinking about maybe getting an aftermarket warranty just to be on the safe side, but it's aggravating to think even a new car will have issues major enough to warrant having to get a policy.

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37. "okay, so I misunderstood..."
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I thought you were buying used. With a new vehicle...most brands you are going to have 3 years/36k for basic warranty and 5 years/60k for powertrain...there are some outliers that are longer like Kia/Hyundai. If you don't drive much, you are likely to reach the time, before the miles. In the case of new, though, you are right for holding off on the extended warranty because it's only going to participate once you are out of the factory warranty and you've basically paid for something you either never use or only get a small part of.

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8. "1st true winter in quite some time..."
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..crazy wind, a few feet of snow, and freezing temps over the past few weeks gave ample opportunities to put the Jeep through its paces.




*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

  

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25. "I’ve been waiting for more snow"
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Just got a 4Runner a few months ago and couldn’t wait to drive it in the snow. We finally got a big storm a couple weekends ago and I was the only car at Dunkin’ on a Sunday morning. That thing is a beast in the snow. Of course, I’ll always be worried about the other vehicles sliding into me, but it’s nice to know I can get where I need to get even in bad conditions.

  

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28. "I set out early just to hit the roads before the plows came through..."
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..I've been on a few trails over the past few months, but this was the 1st real snow.

I put every feature available to the test and she showed out. Crazy how intuitive the Jeep responds.


*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

  

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22. "how About motorcycles ?"
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Brought my Dad’s 1999 Honda Valkyrie Interstate home after he passed. I’ve really been thinking about letting it go and getting something much smaller. He and I never had exactly the same taste in motorcycles; he was old school cruiser touring type and rode Goldwings and the Valkyrie. I was exclusively BMW Sport Touring until I stopped riding 11 years ago when our 1st daughter was born.

Now I’m really feeling the new Honda Transalp and I think it’s an excellent fit for my riding style these days.



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35. "Its been a minute..."
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..I keep up with the market, but not much more than that.

A few of my fam still ride regularly, so I might roll out with them during visits.


*skatin' the rings of saturn*


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44. "I love my Suzuki V-Strom. Adventure bikes are pretty dope"
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Really good all-around bikes.

Kinda want to get a liter bike, but I have my old dual sport and a zx600 that I need to fix up first before I get anything else.

  

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38. "I want a new grand Cherokee."
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I didn’t like the new, square body style but it’s grown on me. With that said, I ain’t buying a damn thang. Unless my wife needs a car, which will likely happen before I need one.

What are your insurance rates doing lately? added my daughter to my policy and it more than doubled my rate. So I went shopping and found something much better. House rate went t down with the new policy too.

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39. "man, I rented on and loved it. My wife wife thought it was too big"
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lids loved it but they love damn near anything we rent because its newer that what we have.. lol.

my wife was in an accident and our rate went sky high…

so I switched to State Farm

Mahome and MaAuto for the win!!!

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43. "they are so dope inside!"
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I drove the 3 row version. I can see that being too much.
if I get one, it'll be the 2 row as we don't need that 3rd row. my current jeep is also 2 rows.

I had a pathfinder before getting this car. kids were smaller and I thought the extra row made sense. turns out we really didn't need it and didn't get much use out of it.


lol @ maAuto.

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41. "Anyone leasing cars these days? "
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Just wondering

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42. "Pushing a ‘23 Subaru forester these days lol"
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Awd handles like a dream around corners. Thats about as exciting as it gets tho

Great family car imo

  

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47. "Is there an age limit for buying rims?"
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and is $1500 too much money for said rims?

My car is dark grey and I think black rims would look nice on it, but $1500 seems so excessive for something that's purely there for aesthetics.

The problem is that I really really want them, but it just seems so colossally wasteful to spend that much money on something that doesn't add functionality to the car.

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48. "depends on the rims."
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if you're buying the latest, trendy style or big ass rims, save that for the youngin's.

if they're tasteful and not doing too much, get'em!

I got rims not long ago. had the same thoughts about age. what helped decide was the rims I wanted actually come on different versions of my car. so having them on my car wouldn't look outta pocket or after market.

for pricing, check other options like fb marketplace. that's where I got mine. 900 for rims and tires. I think I got lucky though. the stuff I got came from a 2022 vehicle. they were basically brand new.

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49. "I love matte black wheels…."
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I put new wheels on my car like a month after I bought it and I’d do it with the next one. I think it’s whatever you like. My MIL boyfriend is 72 and dude bought a slightly used Chrysler 300, last summer…had the dealer throw some factory, chrome wheels on it. I dunno enough about the wheels to say if $1500 is excessive…the type of wheel, brand and size all matter. Also…if that’s just the wheels or a wheel and tire package. I bought my wheels on EBay for about $900 and had a local shop swap my tires over and mount and balance the new joints. You know what they say….it ain’t trickin if you got it. I say do some shopping, but at the end of the day if you like them and can afford them…go for it.

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50. "as long as they look good.."
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but please don’t be one of those folk that takes 5 minutes to turn into a parking lot because you want to protect your rims

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52. "rims on hold because I got caught doing 86 in a 55 ☹️☹️"
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I have to go to court, and I have no idea what that's going to cost.

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53. "In Missouri that’s $250 plus mandatory court appearance…"
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and a lawyer or traffic center to take care of that charge so you don’t get the points or the insurance rate hike.

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55. "ugh lol"
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I got a month before my court case, so I'll have to look into it for my state.

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56. "That's $490 in CA"
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>and a lawyer or traffic center to take care of that charge so
>you don’t get the points or the insurance rate hike.

Good luck.

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59. "those new cars be floating. "
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everything feels the same and next thing you know you are doing 90.

you have it in sports mode?

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61. "no, I am terrified to drive in it lol"
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When the salesman was demonstrating it to me (on city roads!!) my ass was white knuckling the arm rest. I can't ever see myself using it.

But yeah, I knew I was speeding a bit, but I certainly didn't think o was going that fast. The difference between a 2010 and a 2024 is night and day.

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62. "I have a 2011 that shakes when I go above 80, lol"
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I recently got new tires and an alignment and now it shakes at 90

but that sports mode is why I fell in love with the CC. I din’t use it that often now but when I first got it,

pewn!!!!

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51. "How do you feel about the Mazda CX-5 or CX-50?"
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I'm considering one of those over a RAV4 or CRV.

The RAV and CRV just seem so bland to me. But I wonder if that blandness might be a good thing. I know Toyota and Honda are know for their dependability. Are there some Mazda skeletons I should be aware of?

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54. "not sure about those vehicles, but generally good overall."
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https://www.autoblog.com/2020/11/19/mazda-ranks-first-consumer-reports-reliability/

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57. "I got a 2018 CX-5 for my wife back in 2021"
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we also were not a fan of the RAV4 or CR-V stylings at the time. she had a 2010 Honda Pilot before that, although I convinced her she didn't really need that much vehicle.

it's cool. compact SUV so unless you get the turbo, it's not going to have the power of something bigger. but the upside is you get great gas mileage. she doesn't drive on the highway much so it works for her.

we bought certified pre-owned and the price was right ($23k after taxes and fees). my wife doesn't want a regular sedan or car but I'm not into spending $40k on a vehicle no matter what (I have a Civic, of course).

no real issues at 50k miles right now, although there is a service bulletin about a lifter tick that almost sounds like rod knock. common with many Mazda's that use the Skyactiv engines from that era. we had the dealer look at it and also replace the tensioner last year and the noise has gone away for the most part. just got to keep up with the oil changes, more frequently than you think.

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60. "lmao.. yeah, only the 2 tone Rav4’s look dope"
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they def look dated but I remember loving the gas mileage on a rav4 I rented

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