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"Jay-Z and Gayle King..."


          

I love the recognition that rap music it's I is getting also it's funny that prior to this her biggest interview was R Kelly and no connection is made between the 2

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lmao
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agreed...
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      I'm not expecting "Journalistic integrity" from anyone w/this kinda plat...
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      we are past kneeling, *shrug*
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           we are? J got to decide that for a business opportunity?
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                Jay didnt decide anything, you’re just behind the times
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                     am I?
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                          yep. them too.
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I mean she interviewed the Obamas.
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ok
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and?
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      he's saying the Obamas were a bigger get than Kellz or Jigga
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What question would you like to hear her ask Jay-Z about R Kelly?
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was he aware of what Kelly had done as was doing when they made 2...
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Cmon, everyone knows what he would say
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      RE: Cmon, everyone knows what he would say
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           What would you expect him to say though?
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                what did she expect Lisa Leslie to say when she asked about Kobe?
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What does a 19year old have in common with a 31 year old?
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R Kelly was a small blip on Jay-Z music career
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to his fans probably so but I feel like the piece on CBS in primetime...
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      nigga, PUFF PIECE and journalistic integrity dont even go together
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           agreed...
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                journalism doesn't mean you won't have some fluff projects.
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                     She found her niche at almost 70 after riding Oprah’s coattails for…
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                          is she?
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                               RE: is she?
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                                    ok, yeah. I'm familiar of those.
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                                         that's the thing, she seems more comfortable asking certain questions..
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Sounds like she needs a 4 page letter
Nov 15th 2023
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Everybody worked with R Kelly, why is Jay where the line should be drawn
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How many people did 2 albums and went on tour with him?
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      Ok so it's the quantity of work you have an issue with.
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           well that's a little more than a random studio session that "everyone".....
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Who amongst us was not rocking out to Fiesta and the Ignition Remix
Nov 16th 2023
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I definitely was but thats different from making albums & going on tour....
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cmon yall, it IS hypocritical
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Will someone summarize it for me?
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it was a CBS Morning style puff piece ...zzzzzzz.
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Gayle King and CBS did a puff on Jay Z talking about his career and...
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      why the fuck would you think Gayle would do that?
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           You’re right
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1. "lmao"
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>I love the recognition that rap music it's I is getting also
>it's funny that prior to this her biggest interview was R
>Kelly and no connection is made between the 2

There is no way Jay would sit for an interview without all the questions being agreed upon in advance.

He's too smart and too powerful for that.

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3. "agreed..."
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>>I love the recognition that rap music it's I is getting
>also
>>it's funny that prior to this her biggest interview was R
>>Kelly and no connection is made between the 2
>
>There is no way Jay would sit for an interview without all the
>questions being agreed upon in advance.
>
>He's too smart and too powerful for that.

its just funny how Gayle was hailed for her "in depth" interview with R Kelly a few years ago on CBS

now they're doing a puff piece on Jay hailing him as the greatest ever which is fine, how he started Rock a fella with no mention of Dame or Biggs in addition to ignoring the R Kelly relationship

also his "we're beyond kneeling" regarding Kaepernick because he wanted to work with the NFL to produce Super Bowl halftime shows

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8. "I'm not expecting "Journalistic integrity" from anyone w/this kinda plat..."
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It's all a game at this level.

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11. "we are past kneeling, *shrug*"
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17. "we are? J got to decide that for a business opportunity?"
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20. "Jay didnt decide anything, you’re just behind the times"
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22. "am I?"
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https://finance.yahoo.com/news/jay-z-defends-his-nfl-deal-i-think-we-have-moved-past-kneeling-192842133.html#:~:text=Jay%2DZ%20said%20at%20the,we%20have%20moved%20past%20kneeling.

https://deadspin.com/sports-is-proving-just-how-dumb-jay-zs-weve-moved-past-1844586444

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2019/08/20/jay-z-has-moved-past-kneeling-some-nfl-players-have-problem-with-that/

https://www.tmz.com/2019/08/18/colin-kaepernick-jab-jay-z-moved-past-kneeling-nfl-injustice/

https://abc11.com/sports/reid-rips-jay-z-over-kap-remarks-deal-with-nfl/5473905/

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24. "yep. them too."
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2. "I mean she interviewed the Obamas. "
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As far as R Kelly being her biggest interviews.


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4. "ok"
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10. "and?"
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I'm not getting your point.

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19. "he's saying the Obamas were a bigger get than Kellz or Jigga"
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Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

  

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5. "What question would you like to hear her ask Jay-Z about R Kelly?"
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6. "was he aware of what Kelly had done as was doing when they made 2..."
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albums together and went on tour?

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7. "Cmon, everyone knows what he would say"
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Why risk career suicide?

It wouldn’t even be unbelievable, why would he be privy to that?

  

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13. "RE: Cmon, everyone knows what he would say"
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>Why risk career suicide?
>
>It wouldn’t even be unbelievable, why would he be privy to
>that?

at that point everyone knew the tapes were out lol, folks inside the industry knew way more

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14. "What would you expect him to say though?"
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Seems like a question not worth asking.

Not to mention, the tape is not what R. Kelly is in jail for. Lots of people could be questioned about working with him after the tape especially record executives.

  

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15. "what did she expect Lisa Leslie to say when she asked about Kobe?"
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>Seems like a question not worth asking.

she seems to only care about "journalism" when its convenient for her
>
>Not to mention, the tape is not what R. Kelly is in jail for.
>Lots of people could be questioned about working with him
>after the tape especially record executives.

very true

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9. "What does a 19year old have in common with a 31 year old?"
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12. "R Kelly was a small blip on Jay-Z music career"
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its really nothing left to talk about

  

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18. "to his fans probably so but I feel like the piece on CBS in primetime..."
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was to make other people care about him and covering "blips in the radar" while sidestepped some key landmines which is expected by him, its more about the "journalistic integrity" of King and CBS

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21. "nigga, PUFF PIECE and journalistic integrity dont even go together"
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you and your FEELINGS are the problem

CBS
Gayle
Jay-Z….
not 1 of those 3 things owe you anything or even care about your opinion

you admitting this is a puff piece then citing journalistic integrity shows you are out of your lane.

  

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23. "agreed..."
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>you and your FEELINGS are the problem

am I the one typing in all caps?

>CBS
>Gayle
>Jay-Z….
>not 1 of those 3 things owe you anything or even care about
>your opinion

its just a topic of discussion just like everything else here to get people's opinion

>you admitting this is a puff piece then citing journalistic
>integrity shows you are out of your lane.

the difference between the 2 by someone that has represented both is exactly what I'm pointing out

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25. "journalism doesn't mean you won't have some fluff projects."
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this was one of hers.

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

  

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26. "She found her niche at almost 70 after riding Oprah’s coattails for…"
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40+ years, I doubt if she ever considered herself a “hip hop head” but seems like she’s trying to ingratiate herself to that community after Snoop called her out

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30. "is she?"
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I don't follow her enough to know, but is she interviewing more hip hop artists?

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31. "RE: is she?"
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>I don't follow her enough to know, but is she interviewing
>more hip hop artists?

I don't really follow her either but she's mainly made headlines for a few things recently, the R. Kelly interview, the interview with Lisa Leslie after Kobe Bryant's death and Snoop called her what he called her, and now the interview with Jay

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39. "ok, yeah. I'm familiar of those."
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I think she and cbs are just trying to get a younger audience. some of that will be more ugly.

that Lisa Leslie talk wouldn't have gotten any traction without that certain questions being asked.

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40. "that's the thing, she seems more comfortable asking certain questions.."
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>I think she and cbs are just trying to get a younger
>audience. some of that will be more ugly.
>
>that Lisa Leslie talk wouldn't have gotten any traction
>without that certain questions being asked.

than others, with Jay Z, aside from the R Kelly stuff she let him talk about starting Rock A Fella with no mention of Dame or Biggs

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16. "Sounds like she needs a 4 page letter "
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On their connection.

  

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27. "Everybody worked with R Kelly, why is Jay where the line should be drawn"
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28. "How many people did 2 albums and went on tour with him?"
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29. "Ok so it's the quantity of work you have an issue with."
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Me personally I think that was poor judgement on Jay's part but from his perspective I would assume he simply noticed that the heat was off R Kelly and he was still a beloved artist within the black community.

Hell, even today most of the R Kelly discourse is overwhelmingly positive for some reason.

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32. "well that's a little more than a random studio session that "everyone"....."
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has done lol

>Me personally I think that was poor judgement on Jay's part
>but from his perspective I would assume he simply noticed that
>the heat was off R Kelly and he was still a beloved artist
>within the black community.

Jay new the situation in depth he was trying to date Aaliyah the same time Dame was lol

>Hell, even today most of the R Kelly discourse is
>overwhelmingly positive for some reason.

wasn't there a multi-part miniseries about him called Surviving R Kelly that most industry folks that had made money with and off of him despite knowing fully what he was doing refused to participate

Jay's a billionaire because he doesn't hesitate to capitalize on situations from this to the current NFL deal, he a "business, man"

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33. "Who amongst us was not rocking out to Fiesta and the Ignition Remix"
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when we knew that tape was already out there?

I am sure some of us weren't getting down with it on principle but those songs were hella large and popular for folks to now get indignant about R Kelly's music.


To be clear I am not defending R Kelly, just calling attention to how folks are being a bit brand new about not messing with his music now.



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34. "I definitely was but thats different from making albums & going on tour...."
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when you have direct knowledge about the situation from multiple sources.

It is what it is, Jay was getting money I understand that. My main point was Gayle who feigned fake outrage with Kelly a few years ago but was willing to overlook it now.

>when we knew that tape was already out there?
>
>I am sure some of us weren't getting down with it on principle
>but those songs were hella large and popular for folks to now
>get indignant about R Kelly's music.
>
>
>To be clear I am not defending R Kelly, just calling attention
>to how folks are being a bit brand new about not messing with
>his music now.

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35. "cmon yall, it IS hypocritical"
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for it not to be mentioned even if syou have this softballed interview overview show.

  

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36. "Will someone summarize it for me?"
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♥ Inescapably Me ♥

"Love is never any better than the lover" Toni Morrison (The Bluest Eye)

  

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37. "it was a CBS Morning style puff piece ...zzzzzzz."
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38. "Gayle King and CBS did a puff on Jay Z talking about his career and..."
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and highlighting his new exhibit at the Brooklyn library:

https://www.cbs.com/shows/video/BmJtrCKqg8Lo8RLy5gf51Bmjc599r6Or/

https://www.bklynlibrary.org/exhibitions/book-hov

I just thought is was funny that a few years ago Gayle had a rather explosive interview with R Kelly...:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pafJHx-o21k

mostly regarding Kelly's multiple sexual abuse allegations that started coming to light in late 2000 even though by then it was already widely know that he had molested and illegally married an underage Aaliyah 6 years earlier:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._Kelly#Child_sexual_abuse_and_court_cases

Jay subsequently made 2 albums in 2002 and 2004 with R. Kelly and went on a tour that was cut short for other reasons...

In Gayle's "in-depth research" it would've been thought she'd at least mentioned the connection between the 2 artists she interviewed a few years apart

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41. "why the fuck would you think Gayle would do that? "
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especially after all the heat she took over the Kobe questions?

and do you really think Jay is like “yeah, lets do an interview.. ask me ANYTHING!!!”

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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42. "You’re right"
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>especially after all the heat she took over the Kobe
>questions?
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>and do you really think Jay is like “yeah, lets do an
>interview.. ask me ANYTHING!!!”
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