23. "RE: If trans people pretend to be all into guns…." In response to Reply # 14
>maybe these redneck idiots can be tricked into ditching >them?
Nope. Similar to college, they'll act like they don't like guns anymore. And then, they'll stock up on guns (on tha low) similar to how they've been doing it for like forever. And now you look around and realize that you're surrounded by people who own multiple guns and/or people who stay strapped all the time. Grocery sto. Corner sto. Haircut. Front yard while mowing. Backyard chillin and drinking. All of that.
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 76598 posts
Fri Apr-14-23 12:55 PM
28. "bet they just empty bud light into new cans. " In response to Reply # 22
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9. "upsetting the type of people who buy bud light" In response to Reply # 0
in an attempt to expand your customer base seems like a weird business move, especially when your product is still bud light.
Nike got blowback for promoting Kaep, but they're well aware of who their base is. This is kinda like if some marketing exec at Nike said "hey we should make a Ted Cruz shoe"
11. "do any of these conservative boycotts ever work tho?" In response to Reply # 9
feels like every time they get mad at companies for 'going woke' and start burning shit...its really just a loud minority making a big deal about it online...and the company ends up doing just fine or even doing better because of the fresh attention it gets and/or the backlash to the backlash galvanizes people to patronize the boycotted company.
and in the end...it all really turns out to be a grift to push some upstart conservative alternative company/product that ends up flopping because the long term customer base never materializes.
13. "If they keep this in the news cycle til June, it'll be really funny" In response to Reply # 11
You're right. They never work. Chuds love their treats too much to follow through. But if they keep talking about this as Pride Month approaches, they're gonna create an absurdly large pinkwashing backlash to the backlash and get squashed by corporate muscle. Parades full of wealthy gay liberals drinking terrible (but union made!) beer to stick it to reactionary weirdos.
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24. "generally no, but again, it's Bud Light" In response to Reply # 11
boycotting Nike was obviously futile, same with Disney but even something like the NFL where conservatives make up a large portion of the customer base, the product is still the NFL.
there are bunch of other products i'm forgetting where conservatives filmed themselves smashing, or burning for whatever reason, and since i don't remember them right now i'm sure they're fine.
I'm surprised this initially hit them as hard as it has, but i think it's more because most people can do without Bud Light,it's the beer most people only pick because it's all they have, and its everywhere.
32. "how has it hit them hard?" In response to Reply # 24
>I'm surprised this initially hit them as hard as it has, but i >think it's more because most people can do without Bud >Light,it's the beer most people only pick because it's all >they have, and its everywhere.
if youre talking about the 'billions lost' in stock value...that happens all the time. shit will be back to normal in a week.
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 76598 posts
Fri Apr-14-23 07:26 AM
12. "I guess that don’t give af.. which is nice to see. " In response to Reply # 9
but yes, bud light is like middle america’s koolaid
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
30. "Yeah I’m a bit confused by it too" In response to Reply # 9
Whether right or wrong, I’ve always perceived the beer wars to have a slight political undertone. Smaller craft beers for the coastal libs and your bud/coors for the small town conservatives.
You see it in marketing of years past with the emphasis on the flag. So this feels like a shift to appeal to a demographic that isn’t going to gravitate toward their brand anyway
34. "Yeah, it's hiarious as a troll, but doesn't seem like there's much gain ..." In response to Reply # 30
>Whether right or wrong, I’ve always perceived the beer wars >to have a slight political undertone. Smaller craft beers for >the coastal libs and your bud/coors for the small town >conservatives. > >You see it in marketing of years past with the emphasis on the >flag. So this feels like a shift to appeal to a demographic >that isn’t going to gravitate toward their brand anyway >
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 76598 posts
Sat Apr-15-23 12:54 PM
45. "apparently the woman on the can has 2 million followers" In response to Reply # 34
and it was a promo case sent to her to gain some views
Nike also sent some bras
and of course somehow a conservative stumbled onto her page and the rest is history.
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
"that core customer base isn't buying bud light like they used to" Sun Apr-16-23 02:13 AM by 40thStreetBlack
"Bud Light has been losing ground to other beers, such as craft beers and Modelo and Michelob Ultra, as well as to spirits, for quite some time now. It’s looking for new customers wherever it can find them. “The reality is much more simple — it’s that the white male customer who used to drink a lot of Bud Light doesn’t anymore, and Bud Light has no choice but to find people who do,” Infante said. “There’s just no growth for Bud Light in its traditional core audience the way it used to have and used to be able to rely on.”
tldr: Singer Kid Rock used several Bud Light cases for target practice on Monday, shooting them with a rifle in response to the news that beer maker Anheuser-Busch made a transgender woman a Bud Light spokesperson.
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 76598 posts
Fri Apr-14-23 03:53 PM
39. "its called being lazy " In response to Reply # 37
had a friend ask me what she missed about the Dalai Lama..
like she couldn’t google that shit.
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47. "the initial post has 3 sentences; it was explained in the first sentence" In response to Reply # 41
>All I asked was what did he do besides shoot beer cans and >scream eff bud light? > >A person referred to him as anti LGBTQ in here so I asked how >was he anti LGBTQ.
49. "Because your question was completely asinine. " In response to Reply # 41 Sat Apr-15-23 07:33 PM by Cold Truth
>All I asked was what did he do besides shoot beer cans and >scream eff bud light?
You asked a nonsense question.
You also tried to shift the goalpost, as though there's any outrage against this idiot, when all the outrage came from him. Most people are laughing at what a south park level buffoon he is, or disturbed by such blatent displays of bigotry, or both.
But all the outrage is coming from him and his like.
>A person referred to him as anti LGBTQ in here so I asked how >was he anti LGBTQ.
This is a stupid question if you were paying attention *at all*.
Even a little bit.
Just tiny amount of reading answers this question.
You either couldn't be bothered to look into why people would have that reaction, or you're playing dumb.
Because this is literally about the existence of trans people in a beer commercial.
There. Now all your questions have been sufficiently explained to the point where any reasonable person would easily understand the who/what/when/where/why.
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 76598 posts
Sun Apr-16-23 08:06 PM
52. "yeah.. people really mad over a promo pack" In response to Reply # 50
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Over the past week, sales data appears to show that the boycotts have affected the company's bottom line, at least in the short term.
Sales of Bud Light fell 17% in the week ending April 15 when compared to the same week in 2022, according to an analysis of Nielsen data by Bump Williams Consulting published in The Wall Street Journal. By contrast, for the week ending April 1 — the day Mulvaney posted the video — Bud Light sales had declined only 1.6% year-over-year, the same data showed. Meanwhile, sales for rivals Coors Light and Miller Lite jumped.
And in restaurants, sales of Bud Light were 6% lower than other light lagers from April 2 to April 15, according to data from BeerBoard, a company that tracks beer sales at about 3,000 restaurants nationwide. Bud Light had outperformed that category in late March, Axios reported.
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 76598 posts
Mon May-01-23 11:36 AM
58. "4th of July is the real test" In response to Reply # 57
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61. "Is it safe to say "mainstream America" has spoken?" In response to Reply # 57
This is a response to "forced acceptance" in their minds. This isn't the main response or the worst response moreso keep those messages, influencers, and forced acceptance away from their Americana. Budweiser has to realize their audience doesn't have to like every influencer and has the choice to boycott their products.
For the record I have yet to state personal my feelings on this issue.
No empathy for white misery (c) BDot
"root for everybody black haters say that's crazy, wow..."
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 76598 posts
Tue May-02-23 09:13 AM
64. "so who’s opinion is this? " In response to Reply # 61
for the record I kinda agree.
if your core audience is middle america you risk backlash when you go against their bigotry.
they already gave the marketing rep and her boss the boot “paid leave” and I seen a cheesy bud light country music festival commercial the other day. They know they fucked up.
personally, I would hate to make a product that is loved by middle america to the point I’m held hostage
grow some balls.. or should I say “remove some balls” and double down. Those fucks will be back, they can’t handle micro brew prices long term. lol
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
it's great to want to be inclusive or want to draw people in who aren't straight, mostly white males, but when that's your core fanbase, and literally all your players, maybe scolding them isn't the best way to achieve this.
it seems like they hire these excecs from these elite universities who've never really been outside their bubbles, and don't understand how these aren't great ideas.
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 76598 posts
Tue May-02-23 01:44 PM
67. "I think its trickier with sports" In response to Reply # 65
because sports push boundaries all the time.
I remember watching the end of a movie that was about a player at U of Tennessee. I just caught the end of it and I’m like “go Vols” when he scored the game winning touchdown..
them it fades to black and talked about his records.. and then the last line said says “he star quit playing football when they let negro’s play sports”
wtf..
random af.. lol
fuck Hockey
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legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 76598 posts
Tue May-02-23 02:12 PM
69. "in a perfect world these companies should be okay with bigots boycotting..." In response to Reply # 68
and we all know that these folks will huff and puff and blow smoke out their ass for a few months and then come right back.
so bud light SHOULD double down but they wont
but if I owned a company I would be mad as fuck (in one of my mansions) that my most loyal customers are shitty people.
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
The controversy over briefly having a transgender influencer promote Bud Light may hit U.S. profits substantially at Anheuser-Busch InBev this year, a new analyst note concludes.
JPMorgan analysts led by Jared Dinges say they now expect earnings before interest and tax in the U.S. to slide 26% this year, on a 12% drop in volume and a 10% decline in sales. They note that the latest NielsenIQ data, covering the week to May 6, showed Bud Light sales down 23.6% on a 27.7% drop in volume.
“We believe there is a subset of American consumers who will not drink a Bud Light for the foreseeable future,” they say.
Bud Light sales have deteriorated following a social-media campaign featuring trans activist and actress Dylan Mulvaney. The Wall Street Journal reported that the brewer plans to buy back unsold Bud Light cases that are past their expiration dates from wholesalers.
The JPMorgan team say they don’t expect sales to be recovered in fiscal 2024. That said they say the stock is pricing in a 45% drop in U.S. EBIT, and in addition, the company should see margins improve as costs per liter decline and that shareholder returns may be boosted as the company deleverages its balance sheet. “While we understand the hesitancy to add to ABI positions before we have more clarity on the U.S., based on the recent data and our scenario analysis in this note, we believe risk-reward is favorable from here,” they say.
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 76598 posts
Wed May-24-23 10:09 AM
76. "going to put AB stock on my watch list" In response to Reply # 71
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72. "Gotta say, as a bartender/server, I get a pep in my step w/ a BL order" In response to Reply # 0
'Cause it's still always the guy you'd profile as asking for it in the first place (I work at a craft beer bar and a hipstery Italian pizzeria, nothing remotely "domestic" enters those places other than PBR for staff) but given all that's been going on with this stuff, it's kinda nice to predict somebody's gonna ask for a Bud Light and NOT get asked for a Miller Lite or Coors Lite instead.
Though the alternative of Busch Light is, of course, hilarious every time.
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 76598 posts
Wed May-24-23 02:17 PM
90. "allstah post like he gets no paaaaarts of the pussy" In response to Reply # 88
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legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 76598 posts
Wed May-24-23 03:20 PM
92. "dudes who dont get trim age much faster" In response to Reply # 91
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legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 76598 posts
Wed May-24-23 02:15 PM
89. "is homosexuality a religion? " In response to Reply # 80
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
94. "I don't blame BL for trying to expand their brand beyond...." In response to Reply # 0
...racist rednecks, cause at the end of the day money is money. But, it's wild to me to get up in arms over shitty beer trying to spread its wings a little. It's not like they're fucking with the formula.
And at the end of the day, trans-people are just that. People. What anyone else does with their body is none of my fucking business. Nor do I give a shit.
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