About to take my car in for repairs. Need brakes and my AC/Heater blower is acting up. I expect to pay a bit of money for it..

its a 2011.

I started looking at Carmax and this prices are still dumb high. Doing the math I can’t justify paying 30K to 40K for an almost new whip vs keeping this joint on the road

some people are used to a cat payment, I’m used to not having one.. lol. I cant do it but damn these newer cars look nice.

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just got off the fone 10 mins ago with my mechanic, need an oil change and got a check engine light, plus smelling oil. my lady has been pressing me to get a new whip but i aint ready for a big ass payment thats gonna go into the foreseeable future.

my cars an 09 and i love it but it has been giving me trouble...but even if i gotta pay 2k to get it all the way fixed my math skills tell me that that is better than paying 5-700/ month for several years lol.

im meeting up with my guy at 2pm to get the bad news whatever that is.

and that’a roughly 3 to 4 car payments.

Much less than 5 to 6 YEARS of payments.

so when I hear “its more than the car is worth” I think BULLSHIT!!! This car is worth so much more IF those repairs give me another year or 3.

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I turned down 3k for it recently. It just died this week and I know its going to cost that to repair it.


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

I was fortunate with timing to get out of my last car and into my current. timing as in my income and debt were in the right place for me to afford down payment and note without struggling.

my mom is dealing with this right now. her 08 camry is leaking oil and the fix might be pricey. she's been wanting a newish ride for a while. she needs something that's not as low to the ground so she can get in/out easier.

her income is limited and her eyes are bigger than her stomach on choosing cars. the budget won't let her get what she wants. I'm trying to let her know that so she doesn't agree to a car she can't afford.

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

its insane.

I keep reminding myself, its a car not a status symbol.

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or lightly used 40k msrp when new at low 30k used.

I think my low payments have my perspective skewed. I have a low APR loan with low payments so its not a big deal. Anytime I do the math on buying something new and look at the payments I instantly nope out lol

I think the most I ever paid for a car was $350/mo and that was like a 3 year old car. At that number I don't think it's bad. $500 or $700/mo and up though?? naaah

If you only have one car I'd rather have a reliable one with a payment than one that starts making me miss days of work and starts hitting me with bills close to what it's worth. If you can keep the repairs on an old car under $1500 per year then it's probably okay.

most new cars are $50K

most used cars are now $30k to $40k at car max. You can find cars in the 20’s but they are usually older or have limited features.

I’m sure if you do some digging you can find a gem.

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anything up to $1500 I say is a no brainer to keep the car. Above that you have to start doing some calculations and will depend on many factors.

Used car prices are still high but they are coming down. It's going to vary by market but I know here there are plenty I would consider for $25k if I needed a car. Still not back to $15k - $20k that it used to be for a slightly used good car.

Definitely enough new cars worth getting between $28k - $40k. If you want a status symbol then yeah $50k. More and more dealerships are selling at MSRP, no markups.

Still not the time to buy if you can wait but it's getting closer and is doable if needed.

its repair cost vs $25K or more.

I think if my car was dead I would have a choice to make but repairs that keep the engine light off or finally replacing brakes and rotors.. I can definitely pay that vs $500 a month.

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wear and tear is part of owning a car. engine and transmission rebuilds??? that has to be a worthwhile car.

probably the best situation is paying a car off in 4/5 years and going another 5 without a car note. after that it probably makes sense to buy something new(er) for a daily driver. whatever you didn't spend on repairs that you would have on a note can be saved to pay off the new car quicker.

you just get on here and say anything.

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"You can't beat white people. You can only knock them out."

https://www.kbb.com/car-news/average-new-car-price-sets-record/

average cost for a car in November 2022 was $48K

no need to even apologize.

That shit hurts.

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They're not differentiating between cars, trucks, and suvs.

"The segment median for cars ($25,745) is $8,450 less than small SUVs, $17,325 less than small pickups and $33,925 less than EVs."

https://www.cars.com/articles/2023-cars-com-affordability-report-best-value-cars-461158/

And I was car shopping in December. If your looking for a car-car. It ain't no 50k.

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"You can't beat white people. You can only knock them out."

people like cars, trucks and SUV’s.

acting like I made that shit up..

shame on you.

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it only got about 88k miles on in but i treat that car like shit. Joint has been making all types of noises and shit for like 2 years. idon't care.

i let a friend borrow it and it came back with a new dent. I ain't even say shit bc i didn't notice it til a week later. Not even sure if it happened under her watch or not.

now i feel bad though bc my nephews got their license and they are about to turn 17. I'd love to gift them this car but i'm worried its gonna be like 3k-5k to get it running properly and fix the body.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

costly or likely to leave me stranded. As a single woman, in a city where I have no family, I need a reliable ride. The idea of keeping my car that has no payment forever is appealing, but I not taking any chances on reliability at this point in my life. Mine is a 2013 so I know I am going to be getting to that point soon.

That is a personal decisions I have made. Probably not the best financial decision over all, but it is right for me.

♥ Inescapably Me ♥

"Love is never any better than the lover" Toni Morrison (The Bluest Eye)

need to trust the vehicle. can't rely on something iffy.

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

When you are a single woman with no local family, having a reliable car is essential. I'm like you, living without a car payment is lovely, but I also don't want to get caught out here with no ride.

Just gonna suck it up and cry every month when I'm paying that note lol

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Maybe there are two types of people in the world: those who favor humans over ideology, and those who favor ideology over humans. I prefer humans to ideology, but right now the ideologues are winning.

We tried jumping it - no dice. We found mouse droppings on the battery. We cleaned the grease and corrosion off, took the cover off the battery and tried to look for nibble marks - no dice.

So yeah… I gotta call a tow truck tomorrow. At least the car is in my garage.

I am actually really upset but I am also exhausted. Too tired to be as angry as I want to be.

♥ Inescapably Me ♥

"Love is never any better than the lover" Toni Morrison (The Bluest Eye)

you said you tried jumping it…even before hooking it up to the donor car, did your car have power? Does it have interior lights, radio comes on, etc?

...I'm from the era when A.I. was the answer, now they think ai is the answer - Marlon Craft

wants to charge me $250 plus tax for a battery on a 2013 Honda Civic. Does that sound right? Valvoline is saying $159 plus tax.

♥ Inescapably Me ♥

"Love is never any better than the lover" Toni Morrison (The Bluest Eye)

I have a 2010 Hyundai, so those quotes seem high to me.

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Maybe there are two types of people in the world: those who favor humans over ideology, and those who favor ideology over humans. I prefer humans to ideology, but right now the ideologues are winning.

damn, this is fucked up. I’m mad for you.

I live next to the forest and saw a mouse under my hood. My AC doesn’t work and I think its because a mouse chewed threw it. Also had a light fail

its at the shop, will not be surprised if they tell me they found a family of mices in my engine

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He put his jumper cables to the battery and the horn honked and the headlights flashed. He immediately said that was an indicator of the anti-theft being activate. So he showed me how to "deactivate" it and all my interior lights came on, but the car still wouldn't start. He jumped the battery and I am good now. Apparently, anti-theft shuts the entire car down to prevent it from being stolen.

Whew!

♥ Inescapably Me ♥

"Love is never any better than the lover" Toni Morrison (The Bluest Eye)

I never thought it was a battery. Batteries CAN die quickly, but this seemed to come completely out of the blue for you.

...I'm from the era when A.I. was the answer, now they think ai is the answer - Marlon Craft

unbelievable how short-sighted that was.

...I'm from the era when A.I. was the answer, now they think ai is the answer - Marlon Craft

at least they finally released a fix that doesn't require us paying money. had to be because the insurance companies decided not to back new policies for them.

i live near the border so growing up i always heard of people stealing cars and selling them across the border for parts. i've been nervous since i head about the kia boys lol even if you do have a higher trim i think odds are high off someone breaking in then trashing it when they realize it does have push start.

my baby is push button, but has tinted windows. All the more reason for the Kia Boys to bust out my window only to find out they cant steal it like that.

...I'm from the era when A.I. was the answer, now they think ai is the answer - Marlon Craft

:-(

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Maybe there are two types of people in the world: those who favor humans over ideology, and those who favor ideology over humans. I prefer humans to ideology, but right now the ideologues are winning.

as long as it does that, it has value.

The BMI I use to drive around town, I try to fix most small things myself and will drive it till the wheels fall off (or the CVT fails...because at that point, I can be almost 1/3 of the price of a fewer-mileage-car). Now the family vehicle, yeah that gets replaced on the regular.

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>About to take my car in for repairs. Need brakes and my
>AC/Heater blower is acting up. I expect to pay a bit of money
>for it..
>
>its a 2011.
>
>I started looking at Carmax and this prices are still dumb
>high. Doing the math I can’t justify paying 30K to 40K for
>an almost new whip vs keeping this joint on the road
>
>some people are used to a cat payment, I’m used to not
>having one.. lol. I cant do it but damn these newer cars look
>nice.

Most of us are playing and/or have played that same damn game, so I feel you...trying to go with no car note for as long as possible!

The happy story of me getting out at the right time:

I switched from a used 2013 to a used 2019 during the summer of 2021. I was scurred of waiting too long and getting stuck with no ride at the worst time (inflation, pandemic, interest rates, absurd used car prices, all of that). And really, there's no good time to all of a sudden not have a car.

Also, I went to a hybrid and doubled my gas mileage, so that worked out well too! So by the time I was back to commuting regularly again, I was SET.

The sad story where I waited too long:

Before that, got caught slippin. Bigtime. I had a ride paid off. I had only had one major-ish repair (2500 on head gaskets). And I was ROLLIN! But really, I was doing at least moderate repairs pretty much every year.

I kept talking myself into continuing with it since the repairs each year were still less than a year of car notes per basic napkin math.

But real talk, I was having issues somewhat regularly and the ride was starting to be unreliable. I was planning to sell it and get something else by the end of the summer.

THEN my radiator somehow went out. I didn't immediately notice because the weather outside was mild to the point that I didn't 'need' A/C. My motor hated that too, so I basically burned it up by driving it the next day. After that, I was left with a shell of a ride, a ridiculous set of 'this ride isn't drivable until you fix this' type of issues, no resell value and an immediate need to get another car. I had to rent a car for a week, hit the innanet super hard trying to find something I wanted nearby, and get something done.

I felt like Willie Hutch during that whole sad and expensive ass week https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CV5RPRpKU4

And because it was a Jeep Cherokee, people had like NO sympathy for me. Even my pops was like 'you're lucky that ride lasted as long as it did. You know them Chrysler motors ain't shit'. But I continued my Willie Hutch shit, worked it out, and vowed to not let it happen to me again.

loved that car. Then it cut off on me WHILE DRIVING. It cut back on but randomly it would do it on turns and thankfully it never happened on the highway or in traffic. At least 3 times I had to bail on a turn and luckily each time there was somewhere to pull into but you know how hard it is to turn a wheel with no power steering and no power breaks?

They couldn’t recreate it so it was in the shop just collecting dust. I cussed dude out but their job is to just lie and take the abuse.

which is how I ended up overpaying for this car.. lol.

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I got a 2010 that just started to squeal right when I turn it on. My father told me it's probably a belt issue, but I'm still learning the area and don't have a trusted mechanic so I haven't had it looked at yet.

Combined with the fact that I've previously had an issue with the steering wheel column, any expensive repair won't be worth it as I have a 2k repair that's eventually going to need to be done.

I've accepted that I'm going to have to buy something, and my goal is to use the 4k tax credit on a used ev or hybrid. My issue is I want a large down payment, and I'm just hoping that this car continues to be alright while I save for the down payment 😬.

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Maybe there are two types of people in the world: those who favor humans over ideology, and those who favor ideology over humans. I prefer humans to ideology, but right now the ideologues are winning.

we live in Southwest Philly so yesterday we went to Home Depot and Lowes in South Philly near the waterfront to see what's up with a new washer and dryer. Before that we went to Reading Terminal in Center City, traffic and all, to pick up a few items. I stopped by the corner store, around the corner from home, get back in the car, turn on the ignition and the car won't start. The lights come on but not a single sound to indicate that the engine started, nothing, not even a click.
After confirming with AAA that it wasn't the battery or the alternator, I pretty much got it towed to the shop and dropped the key off in the mailbox.


I literally just got it back from the shop, the starter needed to be replaced. It's a v4 engine so the damn starter is buried under the engine. In total, it cost me about 500 bucks for parts and labor. The mechanic said it was the original starter, so after 15 years, not bad. I recently got an oil change (synthetic) so I should be good for a minute. And the check engine light is not on, we'll see how long it lasts..

older cars are like houses, after a certain point they could recommend you replace literally everything, but you just need the essentials done

I like to buy certified pre-owned cars that are coming off leases, but due to the last three years there is obviously a shortage of those

and a 2011 Toyota or Honda is still going for $8-10k these days -- we'd have to be talking about an entire engine replacement for me to think about a new note

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We got a note on this Traverse for the next 3 years...

And this 2008 Touareg is finally about to hit 100,000 miles so I KNOW it's gonna be calling for some serious repairs soon....they still out here stealing catalytic converters so I got that to worry about too....It needs tires, probably a brake job soon, oil change, and i'm still smelling coolant after driving and parking on a warm day...so I know that's gonna be several thousand...If it comes to that it's gonna be really hard for me to hold back on just heading to the dealership for a 2nd new whip and car note....

plus that feeling of driving something nice and newish is amazing. Its around year 4 and 5 that i'm like ew. but it almost never makes sense to pay it off at that point.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

...if you're mechanically inclined even just a bit. I'm not a car mechanic, but I do work with my hands around the house and I've found that cars have become less complex as a concept to fix and maintain the older I get. I'm not in a position to tackle complex repairs because I'm limited by time, but I'm sure I'd be able to figure out a lot of stuff.

Youtube is full of amazing DIY content.

Decent tools at the beginner level are not expensive.

If you know how to safely change a tire, you should be able to comfortably address a decent amount of issues that are not electronic or body work related.

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so yeah.... Car work goes to the trained mechanics.

House work I still handle on my own though.

Also, at least when it comes to VW, there's only so much the DIY can do. I invested in a RossTech VAGCOM interface tool years ago to work on my Audi & VW. I still use it to run the codes so that I at least have an idea what I'm facing when I take it to the shop. Some repairs require this specific tool to reset the computer and not everyone is going to have access to the tool.

and can do it well

I only work on things I have confidence I can fix.. and know if I fail, it wouldn’t put me or the fam in danger.

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but when I hear people changing brakes or other parts under the hood?

nah b. Let the experts do that.

I have no problem taking a washer or dryer apart or replacing doors in the house or fixing a toilet, replacing a garbage disposal, fixing the AC unit, cleaning the furnace heat sensor or upgrading our kitchen faucet.

but electrical work in my house or real parts in a car? nope.. I’ll pay.

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>...if you're mechanically inclined even just a bit. I'm not a
>car mechanic, but I do work with my hands around the house and
>I've found that cars have become less complex as a concept to
>fix and maintain the older I get. I'm not in a position to
>tackle complex repairs because I'm limited by time, but I'm
>sure I'd be able to figure out a lot of stuff.
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>Youtube is full of amazing DIY content.
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>Decent tools at the beginner level are not expensive.
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>If you know how to safely change a tire, you should be able to
>comfortably address a decent amount of issues that are not
>electronic or body work related.

to get to half the shit without a lift and the specific tools for that brand

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w/out taking shit apart. you gotta have a wrench and socket set.

it's ridiculous. i'm like why did you build this like this?

but, the bottom line is engineers don't design cars for ease of repair. I've cursed out so many nameless/faceless engineers over the years for putting shit in impossible places. On your headlight deal...my uncle text me one day out of the blue (he only texts me when he needs something car related) said a shop wanted $400 plus to replace the headlight bulbs in his Cadillac CTS. I responded: Ask me why.

...I'm from the era when A.I. was the answer, now they think ai is the answer - Marlon Craft

>but, the bottom line is engineers don't design cars for ease
>of repair.

the reason you can't change it, is because you WOULD be able to just slide your hand in there and replace had they not put a metal bar that connects from the front of the car to the side (i guess for support/stability?) on a diagonal so that no human can get a hand in there unless their hands look like this: https://images.app.goo.gl/u9xNFk5QqQwkzM1eA

oh, btw...no metal bar on the right side of the car. *insert swaggy p face*

bulbs cost way too damn much. I found a cheap pair for $84.

eventually, I finagled one side in. scraping my hand and fingers in the process.

after trying multiple times over a couple of days, I found a mechanic to do the other side. he charged $65. I wasn't happy with the price, but also wasn't mad at it.

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

the cap to my headlight cover fell inside a wheel well. Aint no way I can reach it, just said fuck it. Hopefully they dealership can reach it

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yeah whenever my shit goes out i'm taking it to the dealership where i bought it and pray they do it for free.

don't make me pay for some shit the company you sell for built like complete idiots.

>to get to half the shit without a lift and the specific tools
>for that brand

I did a quick search and ran into


- a 2019 GMC Acadia for 23K with 27K miles ($363 est payment)
- a 2020 Audi A5 for $28K with 46K miles ($442 est payment)
- a 2019 Acura ILX for $22.5K with 26K miles ($346 est payment)
- a 2022 Honda Accord Sport 1.5T for $28.6K with 9K miles ($440 est payment)


Granted I know we don't live in the same state but I'm saying. There should be 'some' options. I had to get a new(er) car last year in May because I think I pumped about $10K into the old one for repairs/maintenance over the last 3 yrs and was staring down the potential for another $1800 at the time. Plus I had an SUV so the gas $$$ was kicking my a$$. Got a car that was half my gas bill and it ran me just north of $20K (40K miles). Had no note for almost 3yrs. Was holding out to get a 'new-new' car but that'll have to be on the next go around.

Carmax ain't it right now though so I understand that. Gotta do more research man.

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while I know I can get away with a smaller SUV anytime we travel I realize these small SUV’s aint the move once we pack the car up.

and I’m looking at a hybrid for my next whip.

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If you're looking for a Hybrid SUV, might be tough. I used to have an Acadia and I got a family of 7 and we could all fit in there (has a 3rd row).

I got about 195K miles out of it before I let it go (bought it at 48K miles, drove it to 195K) so I knew it was time. They don't have a hybrid version though.

You might not see a Hybrid SUV below $30K for a long time though. Maybe 4-5 yrs.

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The sport CR-V is $33k and is very roomy for 4 people, 5 probably fit in there well. That's hybrid but yeah payments on that is close to $600 depending on term and interest. I want to see how much used ones start selling for later in the year. So far it seems they have enough stock that you don't need to pay over MSRP.

I was thinking CRV or Kia Sorento but you're spending a grip for either. Sorento seats 6 but it's $45K for the Hybrid.

Hybrid SUV's are just gonna be pricey off rip and there's not a ton of them on the market for below $40K. I don't think you see them drop below $30K until may 2027 at the earliest because most manufacturers are starting to go hard on the EV's/Hybrids this yr and next (Heavy in 2024). So there's going to be new EV models or new EV versions of current models so they probably won't have the steep drop off in price for a few years for the used SUV's.

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https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/hyundai-kia-patch-bug-allowing-car-thefts-with-a-usb-cable/


Hyundai, Kia patch bug allowing car thefts with a USB cable
By Bill Toulas

Hyundai

Automakers Hyundai and KIA are rolling out an emergency software update on several of their car models impacted by an easy hack that makes it possible to steal them.

"In response to increasing thefts targeting its vehicles without push-button ignitions and immobilizing anti-theft devices in the United States, Hyundai is introducing a free anti-theft software upgrade to prevent the vehicles from starting during a method of theft popularized on TikTok and other social media channels," reads Hyundai's announcement.

The car hack has been heavily promoted on TikTok as a "challenge" since July 2022, with videos showing how to remove the steering column cover to reveal a USB-A slot that can be used to hotwire the car.

The issue lies in a logic flaw that allows the "turn-key-to-start" system to bypass the immobilizer that verifies the authenticity of the code in the key's transponder to the car's ECU. This allows thieves to forcibly activate the ignition cylinder using any USB cable to start the vehicle.

The impact of the so-called "Kia Challenge" was so significant that in Los Angeles, the two brands had a steep 85% increase in thefts in 2022 compared to the previous year, while Chicago reported a nine-fold rise for the same.

The United States Department of Transportation (NHTSA) published a post yesterday explaining that the security flaw impacts approximately 3.8 million Hyundai vehicles and 4.5 million KIA cars.

The agency also stated that these hacks have resulted in at least 14 confirmed car crashes and eight fatalities.
Software upgrade underway

Since November 2022, the two car brands have been working with law enforcement agencies across the United States to provide tens of thousands of steering wheel locks. Still, a software update will now better solve the security problem.

The software upgrade will be provided free of charge for all impacted vehicles, with the rollout starting yesterday to more than 1 million 2017-2020 Elantra, 2015-2019 Sonata, and 2020-2021 Venue cars.

The second rollout phase will be completed until June 2023 and will be for the following models:

2018-2022 Accent
2011-2016 Elantra
2021-2022 Elantra
2018-2020 Elantra GT
2011-2014 Genesis Coupe
2018-2022 Kona
2020-2021 Palisade
2013-2018 Santa Fe Sport
2013-2022 Santa Fe
2019 Santa Fe XL
2011-2014 Sonata
2011-2022 Tucson
2012-2017, 2019-2021 Veloster

The free upgrade will be installed on Hyundai's official dealers and service network in the U.S. and will take less than an hour. Eligible car owners will be notified by the carmaker individually.

The announcement explains that the software upgrade will modify the "turn-key-to-start" logic to kill the ignition when the car owner locks the doors using the genuine key fob. After the upgrade, the ignition will only activate if the key fob is used to unlock the vehicle.

Hyundai will also supply its customers with a window sticker that makes it clear to aspiring thieves that the car's software has been upgraded to neutralize the social-media-promoted hack, discouraging any attempts.

For models with no engine immobilizers that cannot receive the fixing software upgrade, Hyundai will cover the cost of steering wheel locks for their owners.

KIA has also promised to start the rollout of its software upgrade soon but has not released any announcements with specific dates or details yet.

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

not because no other manufacturer can be gotten...but, because Hyundai and Kia seem to be the only ones dumb enough to NOT INSTALL AN IMMOBILIZER in SOOOOO many vehicles. Dumb asses. I'm not gonna front like I know how much they saved per vehicle by not putting one in...but it absolutely was done for savings. Always is.

...I'm from the era when A.I. was the answer, now they think ai is the answer - Marlon Craft

knock on wood it doesn't have PROBLEMS.

don't get me wrong, i'd love a new car. i need to get my brakes done and some new shocks cuz despite 110K miles all that stuff is STILL original (maybe that's normal but seems like a lot of life outta OG parts to ME)...gonna be between 1200-1500 which sucks....but then i see them new car costs and i'm like "i'm riding this til the wheels fall off, literally."

>i'm like "i'm riding this til the wheels fall off,
>literally."

Over the last 10 years my total normal maintenance (oil change, tires) and other repairs totaled:12980.52

But the last 3 years the total has been $8102.30.

2022: $1700.15 - Spool Valve assembly, Bank 2,Replace alternator (part cost $592.31) with genuine Honda Remanufactured alternator

2021: $2291.23 - I replaced head gasket, oil pan seal, and 4 tires.

2020: $4110.92 - Replaced Spark Plugs, Valve Adjustment, Timing Belt, Tensioner, FR and RR Headgasket, Water pump, Oil seals. Oil change. Power steering fluid. Break fluid flush, and Replaced front left and right drive shaft.

2020 was the big "maintenance" year - and the drive shaft is an issue that many of the cars had.

But in my mind if the average stays this high I'd be spending about $2300 a year on maintenance. Then I spend around $3k a year on gas.

If I bought a new car the $2300 in maintenance drops to 0 for the first 3 years, and the gas drops to $1700, so I'd "save" $333 dollars a month if I got rid of the car, at least for the first 3 years.

A replacement car cost $32,000 after trade in.
If I paid cash and then amortized it over 60 months the cost is $533 a month.

If I then subtract the $333 for maintained and gas for the first 3 years and the "effective" cost would average around $300 more out the of pocket over 60 months.

^^All this proves is that I want a new car but I realize its not a great investment.

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and it's actually all been normal maintenance stuff so to speak, just kinda pricey (new battery, new tires, now new brakes/shocks).

but before that, it was JUST oil changes, replacing light bulbs and tires (i got better ones this time thus more expenses).

i realize as my car ages, the price will go up but until it surpasses the costs of a new car...well.

and, i also still like my car. i love the way it drives, looks, etc.

breaks and rotors for the rear

AC blower and heat repair

oil change

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

no clue.

shouldn't hurt too bad, my dude.

...I'm from the era when A.I. was the answer, now they think ai is the answer - Marlon Craft

That will have to wait.

$850 for the rear brakes and rotors

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

what about the blower? Thought I remember you saying it only blew on high or something like that. Damn, that's tough.

...I'm from the era when A.I. was the answer, now they think ai is the answer - Marlon Craft

didn’t even ask what it cost to replace or about the blower once I heard that number.

I’ll get another quote from somewhere else. If this is the lowest quote I’ll get it down in September.. lol.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*