I'm going for a week in January.

Any recs or tips?

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"i do more for both our communities than you'll ever know." - Heinz
"But rest assured, in my luxurious house built on the backs of people darker than me, I am sipping fine scotch and scoffing at how stupid you are." - bshelly

i actually wont be saying much that u might not already know because since i was there for work, didnt have time to properly explore all of it but it made an excellent 1st impression on me and im sure u will enjoy your time there

- the absolute no.1 thing i loved the most was the strong presence of the African diaspora throughout the city.... so tons of Angolans, Mozambicans and Black Brazilians

- im a sucker for seafood and i pretty much ate well every single night at a very affordable price.... i cant recall most places i went to but i remember one restaurant called A Gina.... i think it has some great reviews and i loved all that i ate there...

- city is beautiful.... its port.... its neoclassical architecture.... pretty safe from what i understand

it is on the bucket list of places i need to go back to with the fam

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- Cory Booker

Football is a simple game; 22 men chase a ball for 90 minutes, and at the end the Germans always win
- Gary Lineker

i'm all about fresh seafood so hell yeah. i will check out that spot

+1 for the African diaspora...love to hear it. I'm hella excited and have fired up my Duolingo to learn a few things...since I know French and Spanish, shouldn't be too hard to pick up

speaking of which, did you have any language barrier issues?

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"i do more for both our communities than you'll ever know." - Heinz
"But rest assured, in my luxurious house built on the backs of people darker than me, I am sipping fine scotch and scoffing at how stupid you are." - bshelly

so no, didnt have any language issue.... i actually spoke english the whole time, city is super tourist-friendly.... was in the Avenida de Liberdade area which is in the city centre... u can pretty much walk all over in that area and there are of course the double decker buses that can give u city tours and i spotted tramways as well...

please promise to make a post about your impressions when u come back... i know there's a large expat community there because of the cost of living compared to the rest of Europe... check out this IG to possibly connect with some of them:
https://www.instagram.com/black.in.portugal/?hl=en

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i will not let finite disappointment undermine infinite hope
- Cory Booker

Football is a simple game; 22 men chase a ball for 90 minutes, and at the end the Germans always win
- Gary Lineker

i'm lifeisluvv on IG

i'm also on the Black in Portugal FB group so i'll likely be able to meet up with expats

i'm excited beyond words..especially since Milan will be there too. It's actually his trip and I'm tagging along, which is just wild...he's a whole adult planning his own vacations

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"i do more for both our communities than you'll ever know." - Heinz
"But rest assured, in my luxurious house built on the backs of people darker than me, I am sipping fine scotch and scoffing at how stupid you are." - bshelly

>
>It's actually his trip and I'm tagging along, which is
>just wild...he's a whole adult planning his own vacations
>
>

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i will not let finite disappointment undermine infinite hope
- Cory Booker

Football is a simple game; 22 men chase a ball for 90 minutes, and at the end the Germans always win
- Gary Lineker

By chance did you run into any Cabo Verde folks there?

Did you seen any periodicals or magazines there catering to the African diaspora there?

couldnt tell u about the periodicals

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i will not let finite disappointment undermine infinite hope
- Cory Booker

Football is a simple game; 22 men chase a ball for 90 minutes, and at the end the Germans always win
- Gary Lineker

It's like a 30 minute drive from Lisbon. We hired a tour guide to take us. Most guides take you along the coast too and show you beautiful views.

That was my favorite part of my visit.

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"i do more for both our communities than you'll ever know." - Heinz
"But rest assured, in my luxurious house built on the backs of people darker than me, I am sipping fine scotch and scoffing at how stupid you are." - bshelly

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worth catching a live set there.
very chill city that i look forward to returning to.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LDkZoGHXHo

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/heavy-rains-trigger-floods-portugals-capital-one-dead-2022-12-08/

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i will not let finite disappointment undermine infinite hope
- Cory Booker

Football is a simple game; 22 men chase a ball for 90 minutes, and at the end the Germans always win
- Gary Lineker

"i do more for both our communities than you'll ever know." - Heinz
"But rest assured, in my luxurious house built on the backs of people darker than me, I am sipping fine scotch and scoffing at how stupid you are." - bshelly

Lisbon is def on my list now.

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everything people told me and more...omg. It is such an incredibly special city

safe
clean
cheap
beautiful
warm/tropical (it never snows and there's random orange trees everywhere)
diverse/diasporic
friendly people who aren't snotty if u don't speak Portuguese
DELICIOUS DELICIOUS food
did i mention cheap? a cappuccino for 2 euro!!!
THE PASTELES!!! probably the best pastry i've ever had
THE CASTLES!! i went to Sintra but didn't spend enough time there
the fucking wine.

i could go on and on

the proximity and cheap fukking flights to all of Europe (and Africa!!!) makes me truly think about having my home base there. I'm going back in the Spring to see more...i didn't get to go to Porto

i put a zillion stories in my highlights on IG: lifeisluvv

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"i do more for both our communities than you'll ever know." - Heinz
"But rest assured, in my luxurious house built on the backs of people darker than me, I am sipping fine scotch and scoffing at how stupid you are." - bshelly

>the proximity and cheap fukking flights to all of Europe (and
>Africa!!!) makes me truly think about having my home base
>there. I'm going back in the Spring to see more...i didn't get
>to go to Porto

It sort of confuses me to see you have this very passionate, uncompromisingly activist, justice-for-all attitude on these boards (which I honestly respect and admire), while at the same time indulging in a mode of travel that's quite destructive on a local and global level, mostly to the detriment of the global South.

Do you question it at all? Make efforts to mitigate the damage?

Like, I'm almost jealous, because I have friends in Portugal that I'd love to see more often (and Lisbon *is* a great city, even though it's rapidly gentrifying), but I don't want to fly there. The rail connection is still shit and expensive, and driving is almost as bad as flying with the cars I have access to. I've even looked into boarding freighters headed for Lisbon, but that's still not cheap and even more of a hassle than trains, last time I checked.

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I mean, do what you need to do to feel good about the environment but these flights are taking off with or without you.

I don’t see how not choosing to fly on a commercial flight helps the environment.

Go visit your friends.. lol

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

"i do more for both our communities than you'll ever know." - Heinz
"But rest assured, in my luxurious house built on the backs of people darker than me, I am sipping fine scotch and scoffing at how stupid you are." - bshelly

>>the proximity and cheap fukking flights to all of Europe
>(and
>>Africa!!!) makes me truly think about having my home base
>>there. I'm going back in the Spring to see more...i didn't
>get
>>to go to Porto
>
>It sort of confuses me to see you have this very passionate,
>uncompromisingly activist, justice-for-all attitude on these
>boards (which I honestly respect and admire), while at the
>same time indulging in a mode of travel that's quite
>destructive on a local and global level, mostly to the
>detriment of the global South.

all people contain contradictions; i nor you are just one thing. i contain MULTITUDES. Quite honestly, i'm even less concerned with your confusion about who I am and what I stand for and how i live. You'll have to wrestle with that for yourself

>Do you question it at all? Make efforts to mitigate the
>damage?

it is the responsibility of the corporations to solve this and I reject the way they have successfully placed this on individuals. while i'm in this vessel, i'm going to live in all the ways that are available to me and that align with my spirit and purpose. Seeing the world is what i'm here to do. But again, what i WON'T do is absorb moral responsibility for the systemic capitalist fuckery that's out of my personal control.

do with that what you will as your opinion of me is truly truly none of my business.


>Like, I'm almost jealous, because I have friends in Portugal
>that I'd love to see more often (and Lisbon *is* a great city,
>even though it's rapidly gentrifying), but I don't want to fly
>there. The rail connection is still shit and expensive, and
>driving is almost as bad as flying with the cars I have access
>to. I've even looked into boarding freighters headed for
>Lisbon, but that's still not cheap and even more of a hassle
>than trains, last time I checked.

that's cool. we all make our own choices and I'm sure there are plenty of things you engage in that's harmful to someone somewhere.

i mean you're typing to me on the internet, undergirded by Amazon Web Services. let's not.

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"i do more for both our communities than you'll ever know." - Heinz
"But rest assured, in my luxurious house built on the backs of people darker than me, I am sipping fine scotch and scoffing at how stupid you are." - bshelly

But go ahead with your jetset lifestyle. As if individual responsibility means nothing because big corps are bad. They're bad because people like you keeping rewarding them for it. Like you *need* to fly.

Decadent, whataboutist bullshit.

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"So this is what everybody's always talking about! Diablo! If only I'd known. The beauty! The beauty!"

lol like what exactly do you think your lil rant is gonna do?

you think imma feel bad because YOU not happy with me?

so cute.

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"i do more for both our communities than you'll ever know." - Heinz
"But rest assured, in my luxurious house built on the backs of people darker than me, I am sipping fine scotch and scoffing at how stupid you are." - bshelly

>lol like what exactly do you think your lil rant is gonna
>do?

I didn't expect it to bring you and Legsdiamond together, tough.

Anyways: some airlines let you buy sustainable aviation fuel. It's expensive and imperfect, but it does mitigate the CO2 footprint quite effectively. Better than carbon offsets anyways. Worth looking into if you intend to fly a lot and care about climate change. Which you really, really should if you don't want your kids to grow old in a hellhole.

And now I'm going to focus on something else, because you're absolutely right that I'm a bit miserable and bored and I shouldn't have started shit it in the way I did. I stand by my general points, but I shouldn't have thrown them into your post like I did. Sorry for that.

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"So this is what everybody's always talking about! Diablo! If only I'd known. The beauty! The beauty!"

isn’t that still going to be used to fly?

We trying to SAVE money and travel and you want us to buy extra fuel for companies worth Billions?

Make it make sense.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

Save yourself the energy.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

you really came into someone’s thread about taking a trip and tried to shame them.

You do realize we live in America and can’t swim to Portugal

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

just wild. people are so damn miserable, i swear

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"i do more for both our communities than you'll ever know." - Heinz
"But rest assured, in my luxurious house built on the backs of people darker than me, I am sipping fine scotch and scoffing at how stupid you are." - bshelly

I just left the country for the first time EVER in December..

I wish a nigga would try to guilt me for flying to see as much of the world as possible before I transition.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

we don't even need to like each other, tbh. we literally have never met so what's the point?

>I just left the country for the first time EVER in December..

that's dope..where did you go?

>I wish a nigga would try to guilt me for flying to see as much
>of the world as possible before I transition.

exactly.

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"i do more for both our communities than you'll ever know." - Heinz
"But rest assured, in my luxurious house built on the backs of people darker than me, I am sipping fine scotch and scoffing at how stupid you are." - bshelly

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

you wild.

like flying FLYING?

sounds like a person with no fun(d)s trying to hate

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

lmao.

do they want Damali to set the Guiness record for swimming across the Atlantic?

smh.

the nerve

sounds like racism and jealousy

dude mad af riding his bike around the Neverlands.

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ive heard so many good things about it, i plan to visit later this year.

Sounds awesome.

and if its cheap it sounds really awesome.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

airbnb had free wifi, washer and dryer, two beds, luxurious bathroom w/bidet, full balcony accessible from the living room and bedroom with outdoor seating and a view of Lisbon...just wild

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"i do more for both our communities than you'll ever know." - Heinz
"But rest assured, in my luxurious house built on the backs of people darker than me, I am sipping fine scotch and scoffing at how stupid you are." - bshelly

before I went, i got on the Black in Portugal FB group and I was able to meet up with and hang out with 3 Black USians, which was so dope.

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"i do more for both our communities than you'll ever know." - Heinz
"But rest assured, in my luxurious house built on the backs of people darker than me, I am sipping fine scotch and scoffing at how stupid you are." - bshelly