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FLUIDJ
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"Hakeem."
Wed Nov-30-22 11:42 AM by FLUIDJ

  

          

Blackness.
Dope.
https://wtop.com/congress/2022/11/next-generation-hakeem-jeffries-set-to-lead-house-democrats/

  

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Yay, a Black person gets to lead a pseudo lame-duck Congress
Nov 30th 2022
1
The power and impact of “The first” is largely underrated these days...
Nov 30th 2022
4
first shouldn't be a big a deal in 2022.
Nov 30th 2022
5
      it shouldn't....but it is. And it's not just good for history...
Dec 01st 2022
17
Let me axe you this, which congressperson record related to Blackness...
Nov 30th 2022
6
Not many, but I still support.
Dec 01st 2022
19
      This is the only politician whose righteousness I celebrate.
Dec 01st 2022
20
      milestones are not "empty symbolism"..... the minute we (Black folks)
Dec 01st 2022
21
           What exactly is the milestone though?
Dec 01st 2022
22
He wasted a lot of time and access
Dec 01st 2022
11
I selfishly hope and wonder
Dec 01st 2022
13
he just as a corporate centrist as Pelosi
Nov 30th 2022
2
Hakeem.
Nov 30th 2022
3
^^^THIS
Dec 01st 2022
7
This nation is currently built to fail, this won't change ANYTHING.
Dec 01st 2022
8
*rolls eyes*
Dec 01st 2022
9
Damn
Dec 01st 2022
10
      let me rephrase
Dec 01st 2022
12
           basically...
Dec 01st 2022
15
           Ok
Dec 01st 2022
16
           Huh?
Dec 01st 2022
18
           Ideological Purity is the GOP's Bread and Butter
Dec 01st 2022
23
Nah we need leadership
Dec 01st 2022
14

Cam
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1. "Yay, a Black person gets to lead a pseudo lame-duck Congress"
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Wed Nov-30-22 02:26 PM by Cam

  

          

Jeffries (whom I voted for, while living in his district) of the less than 10 legislative bills he's sponsored, none were related to Blackness. For the nearly 100 bills he's co-sponsored that have become law during, what will be, his decade's long career in Congress, his record's not remarkable related to Blackness.

Bills that were unique to Blackness (among the dozens of others unique to specific ethnic/orientation/heritage/historic groups that he's also helped pass) almost all had to do with Gold Star recognitions, the renaming of post offices and efforts towards commemorative coins. Aside from an Act for the National Parks Service to institute a network for educational guides related to civil rights era, there's the passage of the Emmett Till Antilynching Act. I won't argue about it being largely another symbolic gesture, but it was done weeks after co-sponsoring a passed bill to financially support Public Safety Officers specifically.

My point is this is like celebrating Lovie Smith getting the job to coach the Texans after they fired David Culley. They're planning to use him as a toll to be the Heavy--versus AOC n'em--for more Congressional inaction and to promote centrist polices no-one really wants.

  

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FLUIDJ
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4. "The power and impact of “The first” is largely underrated these days..."
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The fact that his Blackness is somehow “less than” in your mind based wholey on his political wins is a major problem.




"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"

  

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5. "first shouldn't be a big a deal in 2022."
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it's good for history but what will it do if he's not different politically vs the folks he may be replacing?

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

  

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FLUIDJ
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Thu Dec-01-22 10:47 AM

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17. "it shouldn't....but it is. And it's not just good for history..."
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6. "Let me axe you this, which congressperson record related to Blackness..."
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impresses you?


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Cam
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19. "Not many, but I still support."
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I'm just not celebrating their Blackness.
The empty symbolism is lost on me.

  

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Cam
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20. "This is the only politician whose righteousness I celebrate."
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https://nebraskapublicmedia.org/tr/series-media/news-video/standalone-video-15859/ernie-chambers-through-the-years-50015297/

  

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FLUIDJ
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21. "milestones are not "empty symbolism"..... the minute we (Black folks)"
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stop understanding the importance of milestones is the minute we can expect them to cease happening.

  

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Cam
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22. "What exactly is the milestone though?"
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Hakeem quoting Biggie on the floor?

  

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11. "He wasted a lot of time and access"
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n/m

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13. "I selfishly hope and wonder"
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>Jeffries (whom I voted for, while living in his district)

if him and Schumer will try to pass legislation that will be pro-NY since they both have positions of leadership. I have a feeling Jeffries will have his hand full because I'm assuming the House Republicans will try to be obstructions to any and everything Biden proposes and Jeffries will probably get caught in the middle for better or for worse.

I should mention that he's currently my Representative, hence the majority of my reason for the selfishness on my prior paragraph. One piece of legislation I'm hoping Jeffries will rally behind is reinstituting the SALT tax deductions Trump did away with when he was President. Would be nice to get better returns when it comes time to file for taxes.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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2. "he just as a corporate centrist as Pelosi "
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but since so much of politics these days is all surface level BS, we stuck with the same ol' bullshit...

we gonna keep supporting fossil fuel industry
keep funding wars and imperialism
not get universal healthcare
not see student/medical debt forgiven
more police and prisons

...but hooray diversity!

dope




  

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FLUIDJ
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3. "Hakeem. "
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"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"

  

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7. "^^^THIS"
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idgaf about having a black leader of the house dems who ain't gon do shit but continue the weak shit they been doing.

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"You can't beat white people. You can only knock them out."

  

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8. "This nation is currently built to fail, this won't change ANYTHING."
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http://art-------school.com/

https://ibb.co/k4m6n8C

  

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9. "*rolls eyes*"
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Better a centrist than a progressive any day.

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10. "Damn"
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What ?

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12. "let me rephrase"
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Better somebody who gets something done than somebody who sits on ideological purity and gets nothing done.

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15. "basically..."
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>Better somebody who gets something done than somebody who
>sits on ideological purity and gets nothing done.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2H5K-BUMS0

  

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16. "Ok"
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I get that.

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18. "Huh? "
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>Better somebody who gets something done than somebody who
>sits on ideological purity and gets nothing done.


Have you heard Jeffries comments on Israel?
or his anti-worker, anti-union views? or his support for charter schools?


is it really better getting 'something done' even if it means continuing to fund corporate interests, the war machine and other forms of oppression?

Fighting for causes and issues that would benefit workers, the people and environment are a waste of time? because they're based on ideology?

please explain how supporting this destructive status quo oppression is better?

I'd say this country lost it's goddamn minds if we possessed one to begin with...or we just simp waaaaaaay too hard for imperialism.


Hooray!!




  

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23. "Ideological Purity is the GOP's Bread and Butter"
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There's not a single Democratic or Independent member of Congress who operates with that brand of obstruction.

If anything that's exactly what Democratic leadership needs to do to combat how the GOP wins without control, beating them at their own game.

It's exactly what Bill Clinton did, successfully overcoming Newt Gingrich's lead House in the mid-90s.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2021/09/30/1995-government-shutdown-federal-workers/

  

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14. "Nah we need leadership "
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Not populists

  

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