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"Poll question: Are you deleting your Twitter account if Elon is the owner?"


          

Wondering if they'll be an Exodus, and when.

Poll result (38 votes)
Yes (8 votes)Vote
Yes - my main account but not my side account (1 votes)Vote
Maybe - I'm going to wait and see what happens (5 votes)Vote
No (23 votes)Vote
FUCK NO - Elon's "free speech" ideas are my ideas too (1 votes)Vote

  

  

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Nope
Oct 26th 2022
1
Been looking for an excuse anyway.
Oct 26th 2022
2
plus it is where I fined new music these days
Oct 26th 2022
11
Yes. And I recommend the same
Oct 26th 2022
3
i'm glad someone said this
Oct 26th 2022
23
      No clue. But he doesn’t need a security token on anyones phone
Oct 26th 2022
25
deleted mine 2 years ago
Oct 26th 2022
4
Yea I'll likely do what I did with Facebook in 2020 and delete it from m...
Oct 26th 2022
5
Delete the profile
Oct 26th 2022
7
      You just described almost every tech executive.
Oct 26th 2022
8
           No. I described the richest man on the planet
Oct 26th 2022
9
                Like how many grounded power supplies should be daisy chained on a $15
Oct 26th 2022
10
                lol I can't wait to retire from tech so I can talk my shit n/m
Oct 26th 2022
12
                     Yeah. What I’m saying is the scale of his risk is astronomical
Oct 26th 2022
14
                If you have five sinks how many soap dispensers should you have?
Oct 26th 2022
13
                What happens when you remove water refil from a work floor of 700 plus
Oct 27th 2022
35
                     all of these dumbass questions were banned years ago. n/m
Oct 27th 2022
39
Sorry for telling you this but
Oct 27th 2022
31
I stopped actively tweeting in like 2014
Oct 26th 2022
6
^ this the one
Nov 01st 2022
89
Do we have any idea the terrible beliefs of the current ownership?
Oct 26th 2022
15
It’s his actions less than his shitty beliefs
Oct 26th 2022
18
Give Trump a Chance - Dave Chappelle (c)
Oct 26th 2022
20
elon wont be constrained by any board.
Oct 26th 2022
19
And thats JUST on the surface
Oct 26th 2022
22
Gizmodo: Former Twitter Employee Convicted as Saudi Spy
Oct 26th 2022
21
lol nah... twitter's already a cespool
Oct 26th 2022
16
BTW, you asking people to stuck in their ways to walk away from this pla...
Oct 26th 2022
17
Good point.
Oct 26th 2022
26
it's not.
Oct 27th 2022
37
this place doesnt have access to billions of data points tho.
Oct 27th 2022
36
Don’t have one. Another hinderance to me knowing WTF
Oct 26th 2022
24
I hope he brings Trump, Kanye, Farrakhan and Andrew Tate back.
Oct 26th 2022
27
nearly every board of every publicly traded company is comprised of
Oct 27th 2022
28
When was the last time Pepsi exposed you the consumer to bad shit
Oct 27th 2022
29
haha you mean like THEIR PRODUCT THAT KILLS?
Oct 27th 2022
34
Pepsi is waaay more harmful to people than anything Elon Musk
Oct 27th 2022
38
      not sure about that.. soda in excess is harmful
Oct 28th 2022
43
      This may me being an old man, but I don't get the twitter harassment thi...
Oct 28th 2022
49
           It feels as if you haven't seen the harm of unmoderated twitter
Oct 28th 2022
50
           yeah, we old.. its much easier for us to walk away
Oct 28th 2022
63
      Do you think all "harm" is the same?
Oct 28th 2022
65
      i completely disagree with this
Dec 12th 2023
586
its a tightrope because he “builds” cars
Oct 27th 2022
30
      How you sat behind the wheel of a Full Self Driving Tesla?
Oct 27th 2022
33
that app never really caught on with me the way others did anyway
Oct 27th 2022
32
elon's a dick
Oct 27th 2022
40
that'll show em
Oct 28th 2022
42
      lol
Oct 28th 2022
45
      yep.
Oct 28th 2022
52
wonder how it feels to get escorted out of the building
Oct 28th 2022
41
the inflated self-importance of some of you cracks me up
Oct 28th 2022
44
cigarettes kill… so leave twitter alone?
Oct 28th 2022
46
lol
Oct 28th 2022
47
I think the harmful potential of Twitter is grossly overstated
Oct 28th 2022
48
      It's like libel and slander laws - make them too lenient and people dest...
Oct 28th 2022
51
      Yeah I don't see how you could look at the last several years
Oct 28th 2022
53
      are you not aware of the effect twitter has over news, politics, etc?
Oct 28th 2022
56
      The ignorance is mindblowing.
Oct 28th 2022
58
      some people just arent aware.
Oct 28th 2022
60
           Right. I mean this is case and point.
Oct 28th 2022
61
                yup.
Oct 28th 2022
62
      not sure how people are minimizing the power of twitter
Dec 12th 2023
587
      Name these more harmful things that no one is fighting against?
Oct 28th 2022
59
      I hear you, but WE aren't doing those things.
Oct 28th 2022
67
      Why are you still talking about Twitter?
Oct 28th 2022
66
Why aren't you posting about cigarettes, fast food, and guns?
Oct 28th 2022
64
Drumpf Just Tweeted that he's back
Oct 28th 2022
54
Where'd you see that?
Oct 28th 2022
55
are you talking about this fake press release?
Oct 28th 2022
57
people just paste everything he says elsewhere on twitter anyway
Oct 28th 2022
68
Elon Musk Won’t Reinstate Trump until...
Oct 28th 2022
69
      putting him on now could hurt repubs in the midterms
Oct 31st 2022
87
Very good Verge article on Elons dilemma (link)
Oct 28th 2022
70
The Intercept also has a good one
Oct 29th 2022
71
Saudis the second largest owner.
Oct 29th 2022
72
Musk sharing Paul Pelosi attack conspiracy theory garbage
Oct 30th 2022
73
Misinformation about Pelosi and/or his attacker being in underwear
Oct 30th 2022
74
Jesus......
Oct 30th 2022
75
first day these people complained of lack of sufficient proof
Oct 30th 2022
76
Deleted
Oct 31st 2022
77
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/5c/41/f4/5c41f4d2175ab34d7ec92f61b32cd61b...
Oct 31st 2022
78
Thanks bro, appreciate it
Oct 31st 2022
82
      if you act the same on twitter, you clearly did healthy thing
Oct 31st 2022
85
           As always, your kind support is appreciated
Oct 31st 2022
86
Like deleting an app for your benefit is a bad thing
Oct 31st 2022
83
Nobody:
Nov 02nd 2022
90
      ^^I love that film too!
Nov 02nd 2022
91
I don't know if this article is spot on or lunacy, but it's worth a read...
Oct 31st 2022
79
this line is the whole thing.
Oct 31st 2022
84
It's lunacy
Oct 31st 2022
88
Yeah no this doesn't make any sense.
Nov 07th 2022
115
Nah, but this would be the best time for someone to launch a competing
Oct 31st 2022
80
been too lazy to reset my forgotten password and delete til now...
Oct 31st 2022
81
Major changes to verification coming day before election day
Nov 03rd 2022
92
Taps the sign
Nov 03rd 2022
93
Verification changes from identity verification to verification of payme...
Nov 03rd 2022
94
      This is so stupid I can’t even believe it until I see it.
Nov 03rd 2022
95
I feel like I am starting to see the 4Chan-ification of my TL already.
Nov 04th 2022
96
Risk assessment has stopped
Nov 04th 2022
97
To repeat what I said upthread
Nov 04th 2022
98
      Yup - I’m pretty much done
Nov 04th 2022
102
has anyone's feed changed at all?
Nov 04th 2022
99
oh, I have a slight feeling you'll not have to wait long....
Nov 04th 2022
100
It could be your feed changed from Latest Tweets to Top Tweets
Nov 04th 2022
101
possibly. I kinda go back and forth between new/top
Nov 04th 2022
103
      I mean, I wouldn't put it passed them
Nov 04th 2022
104
           you were right. Home/Top seems to be the culprit
Nov 05th 2022
106
the people you follow must follow/interact w/ that stuff then
Nov 04th 2022
105
you probably retweeted someone quote tweeting one of them
Nov 05th 2022
107
Elon Musk threats to 'thermonuclear name and shame'
Nov 06th 2022
108
hey, Twitter's gotta make so all the people here who like it can stay
Nov 06th 2022
109
Comedi si now legal
Nov 07th 2022
110
Elon Musk: Vote for Republicans
Nov 07th 2022
111
Also: Elon posts Nazi imagery
Nov 07th 2022
112
he didn't bring Trump back yet because it could hurt repubs
Nov 07th 2022
114
haven't used in years. Actively deactivated that bitch today
Nov 07th 2022
113
what if J*n*s bought okp?
Nov 08th 2022
116
Who?
Nov 08th 2022
118
      Mike J*n*s.
Nov 08th 2022
123
           lol.
Nov 08th 2022
124
           nice!
Nov 09th 2022
126
           lol
Nov 10th 2022
130
           RE: Mike J*n*s.
Nov 17th 2022
153
all of Twitter behind a paywall
Nov 08th 2022
117
10000000% the best idea
Nov 08th 2022
119
Elon failing miserably and ruining twitter at the same time, sounds
Nov 08th 2022
121
Can tek and poetx scrape the site and mirror it today?
Nov 08th 2022
120
RE: Can tek and poetx scrape the site and mirror it today?
Nov 22nd 2022
166
Nope, Twitter is fun and good
Nov 08th 2022
122
the weird thing about twitter is that it's amazing
Nov 08th 2022
125
“Elon is willing to take on a huge amount of risk in relation to his c...
Nov 10th 2022
127
so why is dude blowing this up? Just because he can?
Nov 10th 2022
128
      As I said upthread. Dude doesnt care about humans
Nov 10th 2022
129
      I doubt the previous owners REALLY cared about humans either
Nov 11th 2022
136
           but they probably cared a lot more than Elon.. lol
Nov 11th 2022
137
           I dont think yall get it. His overall belief system is that future human...
Nov 11th 2022
138
                But Apple charges for charging bricks....
Nov 11th 2022
139
                     Honestly even in my family texts they dont get it
Nov 11th 2022
140
      Hubris. Absolute belief in his own genius. Greed.
Nov 10th 2022
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      I genuinely believe he's a russian asset
Nov 11th 2022
134
Well, it only took 13 to functionally run the site into the ground
Nov 10th 2022
132
Digg took much longer than a week.
Nov 10th 2022
133
I can't think of another CEO so misled by their own desire to uphold
Nov 11th 2022
135
Everyone's mental health is pretty much trash
Nov 11th 2022
142
      Sam Bankman-Fried too
Nov 11th 2022
144
I just tweeted about this lol
Nov 11th 2022
141
      Is this the first major example of the “disrupters” disrupting “di...
Nov 11th 2022
143
Paid verification system paused
Nov 11th 2022
145
I am SURE that EVERY business analysts and product owner @Titter told hi...
Nov 12th 2022
146
Hey why are folks talking like the lights are about to go out on twitter
Nov 12th 2022
147
ads were their lifeline and they pissed off every major brand
Nov 12th 2022
148
Here’s how a Twitter engineer says it will break in the coming weeks (...
Nov 12th 2022
149
*popcorn gif*
Nov 12th 2022
150
the stuff in this article
Nov 20th 2022
158
because he looks like he is forcing out the best people
Nov 20th 2022
159
> Someone who knows how to run it will buy it I would think.
Nov 20th 2022
160
Is Musk the dumbest "world's richest man!" ever?
Nov 17th 2022
151
Easily.
Nov 19th 2022
157
no
Nov 17th 2022
152
Absolutely not. I just got to that motherfucker for real
Nov 17th 2022
154
Yeah its over
Nov 17th 2022
155
burn baby burn
Nov 17th 2022
156
To be fair to him, he passed his first today.
Nov 20th 2022
161
I would hope the industry isnt so dumb to say a customer facing experien...
Nov 20th 2022
162
Humans are hilarious with their toys!
Nov 21st 2022
163
Interest insight on why advertisers are and will be leaving the platform...
Nov 21st 2022
164
Heard about the 2AF problem
Nov 22nd 2022
167
      we dug as deep as we could on the 2fa thing
Nov 23rd 2022
168
Yup, deleted a few days ago
Nov 21st 2022
165
"General" Amnesty
Nov 25th 2022
169
Fastest way to bankruptcy?
Nov 25th 2022
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      I think we're looking at it too logically
Nov 25th 2022
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           I think most of the MICROSERVICES ARE DEAD is bs
Nov 25th 2022
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                How did you actually type this on purpose
Nov 25th 2022
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                     If by "single-handedly" you mean using government money then sure
Nov 26th 2022
174
                     I can tell you with 100% confidence that manufacturing has not been
Nov 26th 2022
175
                     he bought tesla
Nov 26th 2022
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                     Tesla might sell a million cars this year. Toyota will sell 10.5 million...
Nov 26th 2022
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                     Less than that Toyota manufacturing is the lead example of ALL manufactu...
Nov 26th 2022
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                     because I've spent a significant part of the last decade
Nov 28th 2022
181
                     disrupted auto manufacturing and running a company are two different
Nov 28th 2022
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                     btw, if you want to call out Musk as disruptive for what he's done at Te...
Nov 28th 2022
184
                     How are you this loud, this wrong, this many times?
Nov 29th 2022
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Even though this won't be, this is the last thing that should be said:
Nov 26th 2022
179
this thread is comedy
Nov 27th 2022
180
Elon says Apple can support Free Speech by buying ads
Nov 28th 2022
183
this dude's such a corny ghoul
Nov 28th 2022
185
Covid misinformation policy
Nov 29th 2022
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Fire hydrant of bullshit
Nov 29th 2022
187
But what is the goal of picking a fight with Apple?
Nov 29th 2022
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Pre-emptively so when the app is removed he can point to it
Nov 29th 2022
189
Goading them into a legal fight to get insight on their processes and mo...
Nov 29th 2022
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as a person who has spent too much time thinking about elon musk
Nov 29th 2022
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      if Twitter, the company that never did anything right ever
Nov 29th 2022
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Deleted mine
Nov 29th 2022
191
twitter is missing advertising revenue targets by *80*%.
Dec 02nd 2022
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All in for trump
Dec 02nd 2022
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It seems like it’s getting bad
Dec 02nd 2022
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More shit - Elon installs Beds so devs don't leave the office
Dec 07th 2022
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Prosecute Facui / Boo'd mercilessly
Dec 12th 2022
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Yeah that's stupid for Dave to bring that clown out
Dec 12th 2022
200
Chappelle fucking sucks now. It's no surprise.
Dec 12th 2022
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      Nah
Dec 12th 2022
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      PUT THE DICK DOWN.
Dec 12th 2022
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      lol coming from you ? Save your Ruckus act for the usual suspects
Dec 12th 2022
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           THEN AT LEAST DON'T SWALLOW.
Dec 12th 2022
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                You the pro at that
Dec 12th 2022
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      you don't have to do this man
Dec 12th 2022
229
           Do what disagree ?
Dec 13th 2022
234
                you don't have to pretend like dude is funny
Dec 13th 2022
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                     lmao at pretending like Dave is no longer funny
Dec 13th 2022
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                     keep telling yourself that
Dec 13th 2022
245
                          I was fake laughing at his SNL monologue
Dec 13th 2022
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                     Nah Dave is good.
Dec 13th 2022
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                          "only the poor people are booing you"
Dec 13th 2022
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                               Laugh out loud unfunny.
Dec 13th 2022
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                               The Elon jokes was not funny, but the SNL monologue was funny
Dec 13th 2022
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                                    Yea he still has the same comedic chops he's always had.
Dec 13th 2022
251
                                         I'll have to check out a whole set
Dec 13th 2022
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      It's like Elvis offering to join the DEA
Dec 12th 2022
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           Yep.
Dec 12th 2022
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So tone deaf….unless you are a right wing loon
Dec 12th 2022
202
^ yep. Just the most recent example of an ongoing trend of Chappelle ...
Dec 12th 2022
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      its so disheartening to think that this might be the case smh
Dec 12th 2022
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           yall tripping.. lol
Dec 12th 2022
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                This is brainless.
Dec 12th 2022
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                     Dave is a celeb.. not some doctor or shea butter tycoon
Dec 12th 2022
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                          im actually not mad at anything you said lol. maybe i am trippin!
Dec 12th 2022
222
                          not feeling the Ye comparisons at all
Dec 12th 2022
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                               in all honesty i just kinda threw that out there halfway jokingly...
Dec 12th 2022
224
                                    smh
Dec 12th 2022
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                                         whats your question exactly? i witnessed this shit first hand
Dec 12th 2022
227
                                              Black folk have always been into conspiracies
Dec 12th 2022
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                                              yeah im not mad at the skepticism...i wasnt too keen on taking shots eit...
Dec 13th 2022
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                                              My question is what do you mean especially Black folk
Dec 13th 2022
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                                                   i mean that the black ppl who buy into the trump/alt right ideology
Dec 13th 2022
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                                                        Ok I can see that
Dec 13th 2022
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                                                             man...
Dec 13th 2022
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                                                                  That's crazy
Dec 13th 2022
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                          Once again, there are lots of celebs/rich people ...
Dec 13th 2022
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Dave stuff was unfortunate, the Fauci thing.. what a shitbird
Dec 12th 2022
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Chappelle supporting Musk doesn't surprise me.
Dec 12th 2022
209
LOL @ Dave saying only the poors in the cheap seats booed Mush
Dec 12th 2022
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There's that but also LOL cuz ...
Dec 12th 2022
211
Disappointing
Dec 13th 2022
274
Obviously, this is true. But also...
Dec 13th 2022
256
But why? Did Musk have something to say?
Dec 12th 2022
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they're friends. he's in town. lets see what happens
Dec 12th 2022
218
      Hahah my friend said basically the same exact thing this morning.
Dec 12th 2022
219
Elon Musk stans, including Chappelle, are so fucking dorky.
Dec 12th 2022
226
I think dave gets off on having this super-rich guy be a cloying fan
Dec 12th 2022
228
Exactly. It’s so corny. Elon isn’t just a troll, he’s
Dec 12th 2022
230
Musk needs t shirts that don’t accentuate his potato tits
Dec 12th 2022
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      LOL
Dec 13th 2022
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RE: Chappelle
Dec 13th 2022
249
      I do think it's hard when they're still putting out quality stuff.
Dec 13th 2022
275
WaPo: "Crooked Media’s Brian Beutler suggests liberals should
Dec 13th 2022
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I hate how these folks flatten the experience of everyone not on the RIG...
Dec 13th 2022
243
musk directly pinpoints the political left and targets liberals.
Dec 13th 2022
248
But all of those words are just coded language for brown folks and queer...
Dec 13th 2022
268
Out of curiousity. How would you identify yourself?
Dec 13th 2022
252
Black
Dec 13th 2022
267
Historically, this is pretty uncommon
Dec 13th 2022
253
      huh? I think most people hate Nazi’s on the right and left
Dec 13th 2022
260
      huh? alt-right symbolism has a ton of allusions to nazis / antisemitism
Dec 13th 2022
263
           All that's cool in mono cultures
Dec 13th 2022
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      The representation of the political left is like 92% corporate controlle...
Dec 13th 2022
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           OK so you don't like the labels
Dec 13th 2022
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                Im fine with labels. I vote Dem because I’m Black
Dec 13th 2022
273
Again, I just don't think Twitter is that important.
Dec 13th 2022
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      It's been one of the most important social mobilizers in our time
Dec 13th 2022
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           So was myspace, friendster, facebook, etc. It can be replaced.
Dec 14th 2022
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                This is reductive to the point that I don’t think you understand Twitt...
Dec 14th 2022
279
                     this is why
Dec 16th 2022
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tesla stock price at a 52 week low. 60+% off its value this year alone.
Dec 13th 2022
255
Teslas are also getting ever more expensive - might be that alone
Dec 13th 2022
258
both gm and ford are projected to pass tesla in market share by 2025.
Dec 13th 2022
259
138 million shares trading today
Dec 13th 2022
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      150 million is the trading volume now. Average is 80 something million
Dec 13th 2022
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           He sold 3.6 billion dollars worth of shares this week. So far.
Dec 15th 2022
284
It's interesting to see all the Tesla build Teardown videos.
Dec 14th 2022
280
      Eh. Yes and no. He built a great car to get money to build two expensive...
Dec 14th 2022
281
           He misunderstand the movie "Gung ho"
Dec 14th 2022
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                Worse. He thinks like a computer scientist and real world qualitative va...
Dec 14th 2022
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Musk employs "cost cutting" moves by not paying rent for their offices.....
Dec 13th 2022
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Worked for Trump
Dec 14th 2022
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Elon Musk's Twitter suspends several journalists' accounts without notic...
Dec 16th 2022
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Musk Disables Twitter Spaces After Clash With Journalists
Dec 16th 2022
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To be honest, I find this sort of reporting to be misleading clickbait
Dec 16th 2022
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      what's misleading about the title?
Dec 16th 2022
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      whats wrong with the title?
Dec 16th 2022
291
ya mans is out here begging for a reply from B*ri
Dec 16th 2022
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elon has been so over the top even b*ri gotta save face.
Dec 16th 2022
292
oh shit i just saw what you were referring to.
Dec 16th 2022
293
      I almost felt bad for dude, it was some sad shit.
Dec 20th 2022
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$tsla really headed into the $140s soon.
Dec 17th 2022
294
musk seeking new twitters investors at original sale stock price.
Dec 17th 2022
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fyi: twitter projected to lose 30+ million users over the next 2 years.
Dec 17th 2022
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      Is that really bad for Twitter??
Dec 17th 2022
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           twitter operated at a loss even when they had blue chip advertisers.
Dec 17th 2022
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                He can afford to operate at a significant loss for eternity
Dec 18th 2022
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                     he borrowed a shit ton of money just to buy the thing.
Dec 18th 2022
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                     can and wants to are different things, and he has risks
Dec 20th 2022
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% change in value of top carmakers over the last three months:
Dec 18th 2022
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Twitter abruptly bans all links to Instagram, Mastodon, and other compet...
Dec 18th 2022
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not just links but mentions of the platforms with usernames too.
Dec 18th 2022
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REVERSED
Dec 19th 2022
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      didn't want the E.U. to get in his ass and fine the fuck outta them
Dec 19th 2022
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      crazy
Dec 19th 2022
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      dude's just making it up as he goes lol
Dec 19th 2022
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           he really has no plan, he just. does. stuff.
Dec 22nd 2022
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return of the king?
Dec 19th 2022
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LOL
Dec 19th 2022
305
lulz
Dec 19th 2022
306
Elon posts poll asking if he should step down. Reult:58% say yes
Dec 19th 2022
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Does he run Tesla like this?
Dec 19th 2022
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I can't speak to the quality on Tesla with 100% certainty
Dec 19th 2022
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.
Dec 19th 2022
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      Just to be clear, I'm not an Elon Musk fan or apologist
Dec 19th 2022
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           I think ppl don't fully appreciate the degree to which he "norm" busts
Dec 19th 2022
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           Im being far too casual with my comments.
Dec 19th 2022
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                What could possibly go wrong????
Dec 19th 2022
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The saga of the "Full Self-Driving" feature seems to be a parallel.
Dec 19th 2022
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And to add on that even the slow down isn't enough to make better
Dec 19th 2022
319
same thing with the boring company tunnel systems.
Dec 19th 2022
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I thought about trying the tunnel in Vegas from the convention center
Dec 21st 2022
334
with cars, even elon can only be so dumb
Dec 20th 2022
325
Yes.
Dec 19th 2022
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to an extent. but he doesn't do everything at tesla
Dec 20th 2022
324
RE: Does he run Tesla like this?
Dec 22nd 2022
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$tsla approaching the $130s.
Dec 20th 2022
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$130s it is.
Dec 20th 2022
329
This is like a Kanye-esque fumbling of the bag
Dec 20th 2022
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So yeah my feed has gotten a LOT more right wing.
Dec 20th 2022
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it's so annoying
Dec 21st 2022
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As suggested above, try changing your feed to Latest Tweets.
Dec 21st 2022
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Get suggested tweets and Trending Topics by
Dec 21st 2022
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go in the settings and clear out the topics it thinks you're interested ...
Dec 22nd 2022
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The above suggestions will work - for now....
Dec 22nd 2022
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Mental illness needs to be time's man of the year
Dec 20th 2022
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$120s.
Dec 22nd 2022
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tesla started the year with a $1.24T market cap. now under $400M.
Dec 22nd 2022
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      smh...
Dec 22nd 2022
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      400 billion, right?
Dec 22nd 2022
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      It being so overvalued is a huge part of the story imo
Dec 22nd 2022
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      that last line is everything
Dec 22nd 2022
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      Yep. PE Ratio is 42.51. Still overvalued.
Dec 22nd 2022
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      the market's about to correct for these new EV comps.
Dec 27th 2022
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      This makes me so fucking unreasonably happy.
Dec 22nd 2022
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           Like incredibly.
Dec 22nd 2022
347
Twitter Restores Suicide Prevention Hotline Link
Dec 26th 2022
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I just deactivated my account.
Dec 27th 2022
350
$tsla now down 70+% on the year. prolly be close to $100 by years end.
Dec 27th 2022
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now under $110. that shit might hit $100 *tomorrow*.
Dec 27th 2022
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do you think he is purposely driving down
Dec 27th 2022
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      Can he do that, money wise?
Dec 27th 2022
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           yeah the overwhelming bulk of his net worth is from tesla stocks.
Dec 27th 2022
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its funny that musk unveiled the cashtag feature on twitter recently
Dec 27th 2022
357
Every major blue chip tech/manufacturing stock is down big
Dec 28th 2022
359
If you quit, maybe try Mastodon?
Dec 28th 2022
358
Musk got a margin call
Dec 29th 2022
360
Musk says Tesla will be most valuable company on earth soon
Dec 29th 2022
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twitter revenue down 40% year over year.
Jan 17th 2023
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Drastic, but head count is massively down...
Jan 18th 2023
363
      How much money did they save by laying off 4000 people
Jan 18th 2023
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auctioning off assets from its San Francisco headquarters
Jan 18th 2023
365
Get this. I just figured out my timeline was "For You" v. "Following"
Jan 18th 2023
366
the tab is new I believe. I kinda like it better
Jan 20th 2023
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      but the catch with the tab is that it reverts to "for you"
Jan 21st 2023
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      had to test this
Jan 21st 2023
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      elon claims it will stop doing that soon
Jan 22nd 2023
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      the algorithm is pretty dogshit
Jan 22nd 2023
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           yea, i initially thought it was the same thing converted to tab
Jan 22nd 2023
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finally set up my Post account and I am not really feeling it
Jan 23rd 2023
373
Elon Musk fires a top Twitter engineer over his declining view count
Feb 10th 2023
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and people wonder why folks surround themselves with yes me
Feb 10th 2023
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this is exactly what would happen if a neighborhood drunk
Feb 10th 2023
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i could see Elon sharing one of those Facebook copyright I HEARBY STATE
Feb 10th 2023
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I used to warn friends about pasting that bullshit
Feb 15th 2023
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he wants to be a dictator so bad...
Feb 10th 2023
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      its kinda funny how dude is managing by decree
Feb 15th 2023
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           because he's not an engineer, he's just a bad manager
Feb 15th 2023
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Bro really attended the Super Bowl with Rupert Murdoch
Feb 13th 2023
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Elon musk now promoting his tweets over everyone else
Feb 14th 2023
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of course #blockElon is now trending...
Feb 15th 2023
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RE: of course #blockElon is now trending...
Feb 15th 2023
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      maybe
Feb 20th 2023
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2FA deez nuts.
Feb 18th 2023
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He's taking a way security and trust AS A FEATURE
Feb 19th 2023
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      fyi: this just applies to sms 2fa.
Feb 20th 2023
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           ^^^^, yup, it's just the headline that reads bad
Feb 20th 2023
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                I'd argue SMS verification is what the vast majority of users actually u...
Feb 20th 2023
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                     SMS is used by majority of users who actually use 2FA
Feb 20th 2023
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                     i guess the PR/communications department is gone
Feb 20th 2023
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                          I mean almost any decent engineer could have written that
Feb 20th 2023
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                               LOL! Great job!
Feb 20th 2023
397
is there *any* idea zuckerberg wont copy from another social network?
Feb 20th 2023
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is there even testing being done
Feb 20th 2023
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Elon mocks disabled employee that he can't fire
Mar 09th 2023
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This was so fun to witness in real time.
Mar 09th 2023
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      the whole world is finding out he's a dumb terrible person
Mar 09th 2023
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           Forreal. The way people still vouche for this guy
Mar 09th 2023
401
                it's damn near literally just people that bought a Tesla...
Mar 09th 2023
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                     RE: it's damn near literally just people that bought Tesla shares*
Mar 09th 2023
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my account got hacked
Mar 09th 2023
403
To be fair this happened to my wife pre-Elon.
Mar 09th 2023
404
So, on April 1 all of the "legacy" checkmarks disappear
Mar 27th 2023
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sucker check
Mar 28th 2023
407
Looks like Twitter is still censoring the right...
Mar 29th 2023
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*sigh* Musk changes twitter icon to Dogecoin dog
Apr 04th 2023
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Twitter Adds ‘State-Affiliated Media’ Label To NPR Account...
Apr 05th 2023
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Unfuckingreal.
Apr 05th 2023
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Meanwhile: Voice of America does not have the label
Apr 05th 2023
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      Musk is such a fucking dork.
Apr 05th 2023
413
crazy!
Apr 05th 2023
414
elon musk bans all replies, likes, and retweets for substack links
Apr 07th 2023
415
Matt Taibbi votes yes in this poll
Apr 07th 2023
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      Elon made Taibbi's twitter page unsearchable.
Apr 10th 2023
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           taibbi is so fuckin dumb
Apr 10th 2023
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                Dumb, but "used to be" respected
Apr 11th 2023
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Twitter Inc. no longer exists, now X Corp.
Apr 11th 2023
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NPR quitting twitter
Apr 12th 2023
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Good. Fuck Musk.
Apr 12th 2023
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too bad they wont stop reading it
Apr 12th 2023
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PBS quits twitter, too.
Apr 13th 2023
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if we had a real principled press in this country they would all join in
Apr 13th 2023
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Has the Twitter algorithm improved?
Apr 13th 2023
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tldr; So, yes it's improved for a certain type of person.
Apr 13th 2023
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Elon paying to keep some checks blue
Apr 21st 2023
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Some dead celebs keep blue checkmark (did they subscribe??)
Apr 23rd 2023
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it seems that people with over 1M followers got their checks back
Apr 23rd 2023
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      The complete lack of consistency…
Apr 23rd 2023
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           oh it's a shitshow
Apr 23rd 2023
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he not only made the blue checkmark meaningless
Apr 23rd 2023
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He totally inverted the meaning of it. Also, yall getting sh*tty ads
Apr 23rd 2023
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      honestly the whole app is just junk now.
Apr 23rd 2023
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      haven't even noticed but my ForYou is full of fight videos
Apr 23rd 2023
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      I got a "For You" of girls showing off Nut on their face.
Apr 24th 2023
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      a lot of foreign, made for TV esque junk.
Apr 23rd 2023
437
NYC Subway Ends Twitter Service Alerts
Apr 28th 2023
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Think of all the Twitter users who use that
Apr 28th 2023
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Anyone got any of them bluesky invites??
Apr 28th 2023
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^^^ ???
Apr 28th 2023
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I think its unfortunately true that most will continue to use twitter ev...
Apr 28th 2023
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RE: I think its unfortunately true that most will continue to use twitte...
Apr 28th 2023
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I don't think it's clear to people who aren't on it yet
Apr 30th 2023
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      i saw that
May 01st 2023
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           I really mean it ain't got shit
May 03rd 2023
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RE: I think its unfortunately true that most will continue to use twitte...
Apr 28th 2023
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Elon Musk threatens to re-assign @NPR on Twitter to 'another company'
May 03rd 2023
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yeah this definitely seems like a good platform to invest in
May 03rd 2023
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fucking man child
May 03rd 2023
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Insane
May 03rd 2023
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I haven't been that invested in this for the most part, but lately...
May 03rd 2023
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they have the worst takes
May 03rd 2023
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      We need a reputable version with better blocking
May 04th 2023
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im seeing a lot more blue checkmarks on previous accounts.
May 03rd 2023
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yes. they just verified any account with over a million followers
May 04th 2023
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This part is interesting:
May 04th 2023
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not leaving twitter but i def need to leave the 'For You" tab
May 07th 2023
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Musk has been retweeting tons of black crime infographics and such.
May 07th 2023
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dude is desperate for some traffic
May 08th 2023
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Apartheid-American (c) IkeMoses
May 08th 2023
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Elon to partner with Tucker Carlson to broadcast show
May 09th 2023
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instagram releasing a twitter alternative soon.
May 21st 2023
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Can we not though?
May 22nd 2023
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      this situation is a lil different tho.
May 22nd 2023
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Twitter bug is restoring deleted tweets and retweets
May 22nd 2023
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shitshow.
May 22nd 2023
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DeSantis to launch presidential bid w/ Musk on Twitter
May 23rd 2023
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Meant to put this in desantis thread...
May 23rd 2023
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twitter now only worth 1/3 of what elon musk paid for it.
May 31st 2023
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that's why they couldn't let mcdumbass out of his deal to buy it
May 31st 2023
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Yea and nobody else would've destroyed it as much as fast either.
May 31st 2023
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      he's a literal chaos monkey
May 31st 2023
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i'm surprised it's even worth that much
May 31st 2023
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      when people bring twitter debates here I see why its losing value
May 31st 2023
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Damn... Ben & Jerry...
May 31st 2023
477
Musk spent 24 hrs spreading anti-trans content
Jun 02nd 2023
478
anybody else feel like the for you page is being cleaned up?
Jun 06th 2023
479
nvm shit is still a cesspool.
Jun 08th 2023
480
reddit ceo is a big fan of elon musk and his handling of twitter.
Jun 17th 2023
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and a lot of people had turned to reddit
Jun 18th 2023
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Reddit dude thinks his $5b comapny should be worth $20b
Jun 18th 2023
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you can no long view tweets or profile pages without being logged in
Jun 30th 2023
484
Twitter now requires to be signed in to see tweets
Jun 30th 2023
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i been spending a lot more time in google news.
Jul 01st 2023
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rate limit exceeded
Jul 01st 2023
487
the poverty.
Jul 01st 2023
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dude says hes enacted temporary post reading limits lol.
Jul 01st 2023
489
      musk is going to bring back roll over minutes as tweets
Jul 01st 2023
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           LOL
Jul 01st 2023
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           LOLOLOL
Jul 05th 2023
505
gotta find a bluesky invite n/m
Jul 01st 2023
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*stands in this line*
Jul 01st 2023
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meta/instagram has a twitter alternative dropping soon.
Jul 01st 2023
493
      meta twitter alternative briefly popped up in google play app store.
Jul 01st 2023
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      better link:
Jul 01st 2023
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      bluesky already facing racism (lack of) moderation complaints
Jul 02nd 2023
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           bluesky's entire point is that they don't want to do moderation
Jul 03rd 2023
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bluesky halts signups due to twitter exodus.
Jul 02nd 2023
497
It's officially become a completely unusable app
Jul 03rd 2023
499
looks like spill might be the move.
Jul 03rd 2023
501
(meta/instagram) threads is releasing july 6th.
Jul 03rd 2023
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it looks like this will be the web interface.
Jul 03rd 2023
503
the logo even looks like an '@'
Jul 05th 2023
504
threads launch moved up to 7pm today.
Jul 05th 2023
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      im on threads and checking it out right now.
Jul 05th 2023
508
           accounts have profile pages on the web. but no timeline/feed up yet.
Jul 05th 2023
509
Twitter not suited for emergency communications, Dutch say
Jul 05th 2023
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zuckerberg said they did 5 million users in only 4 hours.
Jul 05th 2023
510
running from Twitter to a Meta app seems like hustling backwards
Jul 06th 2023
512
elon made twitter so putrid that niggas are rooting for zuck lol.
Jul 06th 2023
515
      if you hate threads and want to leave though, you'd have to delete insta
Jul 06th 2023
521
           ig head said they are gonna change that soon.
Jul 06th 2023
523
wow zuck now says 30 mil. with about 7 hrs to go for a full day.
Jul 06th 2023
513
      btw the #1 trend on twitter is 'threads' with *4 million* recent tweets.
Jul 06th 2023
517
           you hate to see it
Jul 06th 2023
518
Honestly, I should thank Elon.
Jul 05th 2023
511
twitter alternatives all sound unappealing as hell
Jul 06th 2023
514
right wingers already bitching about bans, censorship, etc on threads.
Jul 06th 2023
516
It's a good sign
Jul 06th 2023
519
can I talk about Keke Palmer baby daddy in here or nah?
Jul 06th 2023
520
yeah i dont knock him for how he felt.
Jul 06th 2023
525
      she looks great
Jul 06th 2023
527
      definitely.
Jul 06th 2023
528
      cousin keke for real
Jul 06th 2023
530
will twitter sue threads?
Jul 06th 2023
522
how it started vs how its going.
Jul 06th 2023
524
lulz
Jul 06th 2023
526
remember when elon said it was "lawsuit time!" about microsoft?
Jul 06th 2023
532
bluesky just had an $8 million round of seed funding.
Jul 06th 2023
529
twitter is clearly scrubbing the 'threads' trend.
Jul 06th 2023
531
over 50 million threads sign ups in 24 hours.
Jul 06th 2023
533
bro childish af.
Jul 09th 2023
534
part 2.
Jul 10th 2023
536
      Richest man in the world
Jul 10th 2023
537
twitter traffic falling off a cliff.
Jul 09th 2023
535
promoting tucker carlson interview with andrew tate.
Jul 11th 2023
538
.
Jul 24th 2023
549
x.com now leads to Twitter. Rebranding to 'X'
Jul 23rd 2023
539
an already corny lame going through a midlife crisis
Jul 23rd 2023
540
x.com now showing a parked domain page from godaddy.
Jul 23rd 2023
541
Still going to Twitter for me
Jul 23rd 2023
542
must be a dns issue.
Jul 24th 2023
543
Same.
Jul 24th 2023
544
.
Jul 24th 2023
545
Waits for Xfinity to sue them for trademark infringement.
Jul 24th 2023
547
Waits for Xfinity to sue them for trademark infringement.
Jul 24th 2023
548
dude makes the weirdest choices
Jul 24th 2023
550
Out of curiosity
Jul 24th 2023
551
he's been trying to make x.com happen since I was in high school
Jul 24th 2023
552
Your TWITTER account has been deleted, don't accept the X account
Jul 24th 2023
546
meta holds the trademark to 'x' for social networking services lol.
Jul 24th 2023
553
shit is like a Silicon Valley episode
Jul 25th 2023
554
my 'for you' feed is filled with black ppl defending jason aldean lol.
Jul 25th 2023
555
the funny thing is i used to see shit like this for ron desantis
Jul 25th 2023
556
There's thousands of these "new blacks" on Tiktok
Jul 25th 2023
557
Did the COVID VACINNE attempy to MURDER Bronny James?
Jul 26th 2023
558
Musk took @x handle from its original user
Jul 26th 2023
559
that X is an eyesore
Jul 31st 2023
560
It's so bad.
Aug 01st 2023
561
      shit looks like a logo for gas station viagra
Aug 01st 2023
562
           LOL that's exactly right.
Aug 02nd 2023
563
           LOL
Aug 26th 2023
567
twitter/x fails to send ad-revenue sharing payments.
Aug 04th 2023
564
Silicon Valley "Agile" projects VS. people's money
Aug 05th 2023
565
bluesky invites are being sent out
Aug 25th 2023
566
they missed the boat.
Aug 27th 2023
568
Yeah, It's about time to delete it.
Oct 10th 2023
569
I really had thought they had hit a low last week
Oct 10th 2023
570
Twitter users only down 15% overall (18% in the U.S)
Oct 27th 2023
571
By what volume did utilization and time on site/app decrease?
Oct 27th 2023
574
      Dunno
Oct 27th 2023
575
anyone going to start banking with X/Twitter?
Oct 27th 2023
572
lmao.. this dude just freestyling on the mic
Oct 27th 2023
573
I would bank with El Chapo before I banked with him
Oct 27th 2023
576
The Verge has this hilarious series of articles about twitter/x
Dec 12th 2023
577
Alex Jones back
Dec 12th 2023
578
wasnt it on the anniversary of Sandy Hook too?
Dec 12th 2023
579
is that true?
Dec 12th 2023
580
Dec 14 is the anniversary
Dec 12th 2023
581
Close. He was reinstated on 12/10/23. SH was 12/14/12.
Dec 12th 2023
582
the Taliban is on there. Ayatollah is on there.
Dec 12th 2023
583
Not only back, but had an event with Musk
Dec 12th 2023
584
Not only back, but had an event with Musk
Dec 12th 2023
585
      sadly I kinda wanna see this
Dec 12th 2023
588
           Links - and Andrew Tate was on the call, Vivek Ramaswamy, Michael Flynn
Dec 12th 2023
589
                my brief fascination went away. thank you though
Dec 13th 2023
590
someone pointed out tesla models are named S, 3, X, Y
Mar 15th 2024
591
I mean, he has pointed that out, a bunch of times
Mar 16th 2024
592
      SMH...
Mar 16th 2024
593

BrooklynWHAT
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1. "Nope"
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2. "Been looking for an excuse anyway."
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Question will be, how do I replace the *good* things about Twitter (i.e. the studies, essays, and articles I probably wouldn't have discovered if not for select journalists on my feed) ? I'll have to figure that out.

But yea I can't very well keep using it with that piece of horse shit at the helm, especially considering he's gonna start his "reign" by laying off the entire fucking company. Fuck him.

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11. "plus it is where I fined new music these days"
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Not sure there is a replacement for that...damn.

  

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3. "Yes. And I recommend the same"
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Wed Oct-26-22 10:17 AM by MEAT

  

          

After being extremely too close to the innerworkings for the last year, the degree to which he doesn’t care about humans is somehow understated.

Additionally the degree that he and the people that work for him will cut corners to achieve his goals makes everything haphazard.

It’s twitter, what’s the big harm you may think

You wouldn’t download any random app on your phone because of a myriad of reasons. That’s what twitter is about to become. I promise you. You may have a good or bad front facing experience. On the backend you’re taking on significant risk.

For me he’s top five people that should be far away from levers of power.

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23. "i'm glad someone said this"
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i'm hearing this from alot of grassroot movement folks, as well.

at the same time, will he still have access to our info even if we delete the account? that's what i'm not clear on

d

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25. "No clue. But he doesn’t need a security token on anyones phone"
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4. "deleted mine 2 years ago"
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only time I visit is if someone drops a link..

and then I can nly scroll for a few before it kicks me off and tries to force me to sign up.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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But I'll keep my account. I might visit Facebook once a month now, maybe twice if I'm super bored. Prior to that I was on there everyday cuz I could just click on my phone and scroll.

So even tho I find Twitter way more useful, I think not having it on my phone will significantly reduce my time spent scrolling the website. I'm rarely in front of a computer when not working.

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7. "Delete the profile "
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Mans entire ethos is that government rules are stupid
Break them until a regulator steps in
Skirt them until fines happen
Negotiate and litigate that

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8. "You just described almost every tech executive."
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I'm not defending Elon, but he isn't special in that regard.

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9. "No. I described the richest man on the planet"
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Wed Oct-26-22 11:26 AM by MEAT

  

          

Who has sent tens of thousands of vehicles on the road to beta test concepts on the public
In the form of multiple ton vehicles with instant torque
And has this far skirted liability or accountability for doing so
What concepts do you think he’ll beta test on the public with that as a platform

On top of that tech execs have for the most part provided for their workers
A whole bunch of cool office perks to make it seem like a hip place to work at
I understand that these are surface level things
But what job have you ever worked at that doesn’t provide parking for every employee, adequate restrooms, hand soap, or work stations

I can assure you, that this is going to go bad, quickly.
It takes a whole different type of corner cutting to get that rich that fast
If other tech execs could, they would’ve.

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10. "Like how many grounded power supplies should be daisy chained on a $15"
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Tripp Lite surge protector?
1, 2, 6 plus?
What it instead of running adequate power to supply over 700 desks you decided to cut corners and set a mass series of daisy chained power bricks exceeding 1000
Is that something that should be done in an office with inadequate fire exit routes, stairs, and sitting below a battery manufacturing shop?

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12. "lol I can't wait to retire from tech so I can talk my shit n/m"
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14. "Yeah. What I’m saying is the scale of his risk is astronomical "
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Mainly because most tech is limited to the digital world where as his is in the physical realm at scale.

His ethos is the last ethos needed behind having access to the device in this many peoples pockets.

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13. "If you have five sinks how many soap dispensers should you have?"
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5, 4, 3?

Or maybe remove the soap dispensers and put two- three bottles of hand soap on the counter?

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35. "What happens when you remove water refil from a work floor of 700 plus"
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And leave 3 water stations between that many people at a slower rate of fill than even your home bathroom sink

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39. "all of these dumbass questions were banned years ago. n/m"
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31. "Sorry for telling you this but "
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You can use “nitter.it” to avoid logging in.

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6. "I stopped actively tweeting in like 2014"
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The only time I even look at twitter is when someone posts a link to a tweet somewhere.

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89. "^ this the one"
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IG: amadu_me

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15. "Do we have any idea the terrible beliefs of the current ownership?"
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If Elon makes changes that make the place suck more, sure.

But I really don't believe Elon is worst than....Mortimor J Buckley?

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18. "It’s his actions less than his shitty beliefs"
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His actions will be horrific. I assure you.

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20. "Give Trump a Chance - Dave Chappelle (c) "
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>His actions will be horrific. I assure you.
Right???

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19. "elon wont be constrained by any board."
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itll be a private company that he can do anything he wants to with.

if you want to get an idea about what hes planning to do...do a search for the trove of his emails with friends and an investors.

where they clearly talk about re-instating trump, re-platforming banned alt right trolls, and tilting the playing field against political enemies.

and just look at the right wing personalities he communicates with on twitter every day.

  

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22. "And thats JUST on the surface"
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All he needs is a single day or week of unique ID data collection and shit is a wrap.
It’s about to be so so bad.
Where Facebook is and continues to be evil they were hedged by starting as a browser and expanding to an app
They’ve managed to break or chip some firewalls of protection by the login portion or website plug ins
But there is a huge security and safety issue with apps in general
Let alone one helmed by him and his friends.

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21. "Gizmodo: Former Twitter Employee Convicted as Saudi Spy"
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As an answer to your question: pretty terrible!

https://gizmodo.com/twitter-saudi-spy-elon-musk-1849394710

Former Twitter Employee Convicted as Saudi Spy
Feds alleged U.S. citizen Ahmad Abouammo used his public relations position at Twitter to funnel information to MBS about Saudi dissidents.

ByKyle Barr


What does it cost to sell out and hand over the private information of the critics for a despotic regime? Apparently $300,000 and a nice watch. A former Twitter employee was convicted on six of his original 11 counts of operating as an agent for Saudi Arabia. The verdict came down late Tuesday, and all that’s left is sentencing, which could be up to 20 years in federal prison.

Federal prosecutors said that former Twitter employee Ahmad Abouammo, a U.S. resident born in Egypt who held dual U.S.-Lebanese citizenship, worked as a media partnership manager, helping promote the company while working with journalists and celebrities in the Middle East and north Africa. Feds further claimed that while in that job he had been working as a spy on behalf of the Saudi Arabian government from late 2014 to March 2015.

He was convicted of being an agent for a foreign power, as well as money laundering and conspiracy to commit wire fraud for trying to wire money to Saudi accounts, but the original charges go much deeper than that. According to the original complaint, prosecutors also said that Abouammo had been working on behalf of Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Salman to worm his way through Twitter’s internal systems to share personal information on Saudi critics and dissidents.

Bloomberg reported that prosecutors showed that Abouammo received $300,000 in wire transfers in bribes from MBS’ aide in exchange for Twitter account info. Feds also alleged Abouammo received an expensive Hublot watch for his troubles. The trial lasted two and a half weeks before he was finally convicted. Bloomberg also reported that the court restricted prosecutors from telling the jury that the U.S. believed the crown prince used this Twitter info to detain and torture supposed critics.

Abouammo was represented by San Francisco public defender Angela Chuang, according to reports. She did not immediately respond to Gizmodo’s request for comment. Chuang reportedly told the jury Twitter botched their own investigation and was careless in handling Twitter users’ data. A fellow person charged in the original complaint, Ali Alzabarah, fled to Saudi Arabia, and Chuang apparently criticized the company and the U.S. for letting him go even as he was under surveillance.

Twitter declined to comment on the verdict, but the company did say they have been cooperating with law enforcement throughout the trial, and they previously conducted their own investigation and notified users if they were impacted.

Despite it being years since Twitter fired the alleged spy, the social media company has not been able to escape accusations of aiding Saudi Arabia. In a separate civil case, Ali al-Ahmed, a self-described critic of Saudi Arabia who had been granted asylum in the U.S., sued the social media company in late 2021. He said his account was one of those Abouammo hacked, and alleged the company had effectively collaborated and otherwise turned a blind eye to the Saudi government’s attacks on dissenters. Attorneys later agreed to dismiss the case in July.

Though the charges against Abouammo weren’t filed until 2019, investigations in the wake of the brutal murder of Saudi critic and Washington Post journalist Jamal Khashoggi brought the young Saudi royal’s online spying campaigns to the public eye. A 2018 New York Times investigation following Khashoggi’s murder showed how the crown prince helped sick legions of Twitter accounts to harass the journalist. That report also showed how effective the royal has been at using Twitter to prop up his regime. Bin Salman has also been well known for being buddy-buddy with many of the world’s biggest tech companies and their CEOs.

Saudi Prince Alwaleed bin Talal owns $300 million worth of stock in Twitter. While the fellow prince was originally skeptical of Tesla CEO Elon Musk’s planned and botched takeover of the company, bin Talal later pledged $1.9 billion to help with the purchase.

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16. "lol nah... twitter's already a cespool"
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that brings out the worst in people who believe they can be as trash as they want because they feel they're on the right side of an issue.
I've fallen into that too on there occasionally.

For whatever reason I've found enough value in it to stay. I've tried to curate my feed more towards my interests than culture war shit, and found myself muting alot people I agree with on most things just because they were acting too shitty.

So yeah, now it will just be a cespool that's more welcoming to Don Jr, and Ricky Shroder but I really don't spend enough time on it to care. it's easily my least favorite of social platforms.

Burn it down, Elon

  

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17. "BTW, you asking people to stuck in their ways to walk away from this pla..."
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skewed audience.


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26. "Good point."
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37. "it's not."
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"i do more for both our communities than you'll ever know." - Heinz
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36. "this place doesnt have access to billions of data points tho."
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your point is making no sense.

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24. "Don’t have one. Another hinderance to me knowing WTF"
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is going on around me.

♥ Inescapably Me ♥

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27. "I hope he brings Trump, Kanye, Farrakhan and Andrew Tate back."
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Keep Sneako banned though, he annoys me.



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28. "nearly every board of every publicly traded company is comprised of "
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many terrible people

if you think Elon is any better or worse than the people who currently run Twitter, or Pepsi, or GE or whatever , you’re a fool

I’m not on Twitter. Twitter is gross. People should be wanting to get off in general, not just because of Elon Musk.

  

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29. "When was the last time Pepsi exposed you the consumer to bad shit"
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Worse than their actual product
Yall are conflating being a bad person with being a legitimately harmful person.

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34. "haha you mean like THEIR PRODUCT THAT KILLS? "
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I don’t drink soda or use Twitter so I’m fine

  

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38. "Pepsi is waaay more harmful to people than anything Elon Musk"
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has said or done.


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43. "not sure about that.. soda in excess is harmful"
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but so is Twitter

especially the way its used to harass people. Shit aint healthy at all.

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49. "This may me being an old man, but I don't get the twitter harassment thi..."
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Like I aggressively block and mute things and people I don't like and I can avoid most of the twitter hellscape people complain about.

Moreover, the second twitter is unenjoyable to me I would log off. Like If I did some shit and was the target of twitter hate I would just not go on twitter and not miss a beat. It's not that necessary.

Waay much harder to avoid diabetes for me.


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50. "It feels as if you haven't seen the harm of unmoderated twitter"
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/09/02/lgbtq-threats-hospitals-libs-of-tiktok/

https://www.losangelesblade.com/2022/10/05/after-twitter-lifted-libs-of-tiktoks-suspension-she-went-back-at-it/

https://www.cbsnews.com/boston/news/boston-bomb-threats-childrens-hospital-joshua-kimble/

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63. "yeah, we old.. its much easier for us to walk away"
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but the next generation? That shit is addictive and hard to live without.

Hell, look at athletes with millions of dollars who can’t stop themselves from tweeting at fans.

During the kweli debates someone said an old OKP was wildin and dude even warned us tread lightly because she goes hard. Well, one tweet and she ended up emailing what she thought was my employer (it wasn’t) and saying some wild shit.

People are fucking crazy dude.

tweeting bosses
tweeting out addresses

there is a level of crazy out there that is really out to ruin peoples lives.

I work in cyber so we see much worse shit than silly threats but the fact that someone would look at my info and try to ruin my life over Talib Kweli is wild as fuck to me.




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65. "Do you think all "harm" is the same? "
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I don't mean "equal", I mean "same".

I mean, do you think that the way soda harms people, and the way social media harm people, are 1:1 comparisons?

Because this may as well be comparing soda to Elon Musk, in terms of how different they are, and those two things are so far apart in terms of the what and how of the harm each causes, that a comparison would be a little ridiculous IMO.

  

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586. "i completely disagree with this"
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while admitting that drinking too much soda is bad for you.

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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30. "its a tightrope because he “builds” cars"
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anytime a car company has issues that cause deaths it makes them look slimy as hell.

but for me, that auto pilot is fucking stupid. Idiots really want to sit in a car and not pit their hands on the wheel.

I also heard his working conditions are horrible but that aint nothing new

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33. "How you sat behind the wheel of a Full Self Driving Tesla?"
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It’s bad bad.
Like being in the passenger seat of a student driver bad.

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32. "that app never really caught on with me the way others did anyway"
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________________________________________
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40. "elon's a dick"
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spent 10+ years curating my timeline for this asshole to ruin things.

i uninstalled the app from my phone.

i'll maintain my account until a critical mass of folks dip to somewhere new.

  

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42. "that'll show em"
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>spent 10+ years curating my timeline for this asshole to ruin
>things.
>

"curating my timeline"

>i uninstalled the app from my phone.
>

you show em

>i'll maintain my account until a critical mass of folks dip to
>somewhere new.

no one's going anywhere

  

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45. "lol"
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why you gotta be like that?

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52. "yep."
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if you think twitter sucks, it's because you've picked bad people to follow. your twitter experience is on you, ergo, curating your timeline.

i was alright w/ the twitter app being installed on my phone under old mgmt. not cool w/ that level of access under new mgmt. happy to browse it via mobile web vs an app w/ permissions.

if musk ruins folks ability to maintain their experience, folks will go. just like they left myspace. and facebook. and black planet. and digg.

i 100% expect musk to ruin shit just for a giggle, so, i expect a new platform to pop up sooner rather than later.

  

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41. "wonder how it feels to get escorted out of the building"
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simply because someone bought the company.

Talk about theatrics..

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44. "the inflated self-importance of some of you cracks me up"
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the idea that Twitter - some app on your phone you don't have to use - is going to do irreparable damage to society is a riot.

There's folks in here defending Pepsi just because they hate Elon Musk so much.

I'd love to see this energy over cigarettes, fast food, guns, etc. There's about 900x more people using those things in the US and across the world.

Go outside.

  

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46. "cigarettes kill… so leave twitter alone? "
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47. "lol"
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48. "I think the harmful potential of Twitter is grossly overstated"
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I wish people cared as much about this as other things that are way more popular and 10x more harmful

  

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51. "It's like libel and slander laws - make them too lenient and people dest..."
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Cause harassment (Alex Jones) if there's no legal consequences (Alex Jones being sued by Parkland families isn't the same as jailing him)

Similarly.


Making a platform too easy to spread any kind of inflammatory lie can cause Jan 6th uprisings.

Elon wants to loosen the guardrails = people spreading more lies for more Alex Jones getting murdered children's graves desecrated due to his lies or worse (Jan 6th)

  

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53. "Yeah I don't see how you could look at the last several years"
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and underestimate the influence/power of social media.


  

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56. "are you not aware of the effect twitter has over news, politics, etc?"
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like entire weeks of major news coverage are based on what is trending on twitter. its arguably the most aggregated/amplified source of information...especially compared to its relatively small size compared to other major social networks.

all you need is some tweaking of the algorithm, prioritization of different/partisan news sources, and change in content moderation policy and you could easily empower extremists, tilt the public discourse space to the right, silence/marginalize opponents/dissidents, etc (basically what already happened to facebook).

how can you look at the effect that social media in general has had on countries all around the globe and conclude that the person running it doesnt matter...especially when that person is publicly hostile to one side of the political aisle and openly courting the other?

if twitter isnt going to have that much of a material effect...then why are right wingers celebrating musk getting the keys to it?

  

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58. "The ignorance is mindblowing."
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60. "some people just arent aware."
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i got people in my own family who talk about shit like this and have zero knowledge of the actual facts/information lol.

as much as it suprises me...i gotta remind myself that most people have a passive information diet where they are only exposed to things that are brought to them.

and only a small sliver of people actively seek information related to the things they talk about.

  

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61. "Right. I mean this is case and point."
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https://twitter.com/ryanlcooper/status/1586048980554752007?s=21&t=gN0gxpGrmMnyHFHnijdlqg

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62. "yup. "
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587. "not sure how people are minimizing the power of twitter"
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“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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59. "Name these more harmful things that no one is fighting against? "
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Cigarettes? People fought against that industry and smoking continues to decline. Also
a bunch of states that no longer allow it inside establishments.

Drinking? DARE has been around for years

Soda? Michelle Obama’s mission was healthy lunches

Damn near every harmful thing you suggest people could fight against before twitter already has people dedicating their lives to fight against them.

Social media has already shown how easy it is to spread misinformation and help tilt elections. I really don’t see how fighting against it is a big problem.

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67. "I hear you, but WE aren't doing those things. "
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I mean, we should be spending our time here on OKP fixing all that shit instead of, you know, talking about shit as a form of entertainment, like, you know, people.

  

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66. "Why are you still talking about Twitter?"
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Where is your dissertation post about the evils of soda, and why we should all be mobilizing against Big Tobacco?

You say you wish people cared more about those sorts of things, yet here you are, chastising people for talking about Twitter.

Why aren't you leading the way by being the change you think we all need to be as well?

It seems you're not nearly as passionate about the evils of smoking, guns, etc, as you think we need to be.

So maybe go and do the thing you're telling us we should do, then get back.

  

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64. "Why aren't you posting about cigarettes, fast food, and guns?"
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And why aren't you doing it on bigger, more visible platforms, where people can see your message?

Why are you instead talking down to people here, about how the thing they're talking about is less important than the super important issues you think they should be discussing?

It's just odd that you'd be wasting your doubtless precious time and energy resources here, when you clearly have bigger and better problems to tackle.

I'm assume you also have the ideas, resources, connections, etc to really make a difference in those realms, given the incredibly smug scolding you just handed down.

  

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54. "Drumpf Just Tweeted that he's back"
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That might be a wrap for me on there. It's my least engaging Social Media application, so it's not much for me to drop it.

IG: @illharmonic.orchestra
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55. "Where'd you see that?"
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His account is still suspended for the time being, though I expect—and fear—that will change.


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57. "are you talking about this fake press release?"
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https://twitter.com/ZTPetrizzo/status/1585818209344638976

  

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68. "people just paste everything he says elsewhere on twitter anyway"
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and talk about it

he might as well have been back already

  

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69. "Elon Musk Won’t Reinstate Trump until..."
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lets hope this at least is true

Elon Musk Won’t Reinstate Trump, or Any Other Banned Twitter Accounts, Until After Forming ‘Content Moderation Council’

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/elon-musk-content-moderation-council-twitter-1234620584/

  

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87. "putting him on now could hurt repubs in the midterms"
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he'll suck up all the attention and i doubt they want to spend their last week defending or worse, feeling a need to push back against some weird trump tweet.

he'll be back the end of next week, after these dicks take congress back

  

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70. "Very good Verge article on Elons dilemma (link)"
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https://www.theverge.com/2022/10/28/23428132/elon-musk-twitter-acquisition-problems-speech-moderation

“write as many polite letters to advertisers as you want, but you cannot reasonably expect to collect any meaningful advertising revenue if you do not promise those advertisers “brand safety.” That means you have to ban racism, sexism, transphobia, and all kinds of other speech that is totally legal in the United States but reveals people to be total assholes. So you can make all the promises about “free speech” you want, but the dull reality is that you still have to ban a bunch of legal speech if you want to make money. And when you start doing that, your creepy new right-wing fanboys are going to viciously turn on you, just like they turn on every other social network that realizes the same essential truth.“

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71. "The Intercept also has a good one"
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https://theintercept.com/2022/10/28/elon-musk-twitter/

That’s because as of this moment, it looks like Musk dug a big hole in the forest, carefully filled it with punji sticks and crocodiles, and then jumped in.

The statement starts off, promisingly, with a blatant lie: “The reason I acquired Twitter is because it is important for the future of civilization to have a common digital town square.” Musk apparently believes that no one will remember that until three weeks ago, he was desperately trying not to buy Twitter. The only reason he did is because he was about to lose Twitter’s lawsuit to force him to buy it. This may be the greatest “you can’t fire me because I quit” moment in history

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72. "Saudis the second largest owner. "
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https://mobile.twitter.com/Alwaleed_Talal/status/1585975226567110656

I’m sure that’ll be fine.

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73. "Musk sharing Paul Pelosi attack conspiracy theory garbage"
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/elon-musk-shares-lurid-conspiracy-theory-about-paul-pelosi-attack-in-response-to-hillary-clinton/ar-AA13xvCi

Sickening.

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74. "Misinformation about Pelosi and/or his attacker being in underwear"
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Debunked: https://heavy.com/news/paul-pelosi-underwear-david-depape/

But put paul+pelosi+underwear in google and it's EVERYWHERE.

Sickening.

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75. "Jesus......"
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"The world is before you and you need not take it or leave it as it was when you came in." - James Baldwin

  

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76. "first day these people complained of lack of sufficient proof"
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that this was a politically motivated attack, and that the msm/lib media were quick were too quick to accept this as gospel and push that narrative before they had all the facts.

the next day: i read somewhere that they were in their underwear, so this was 100% some weird sex shit like pizzagate

  

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77. "Deleted "
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I've been out of town, but app is deleted and account is deactivated.

P.S. I love hearing from the suckers posting here about how it's great, it's all on you, and "you ain't shit so delete, see if we care." So go ahead and post it.



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78. "https://i.pinimg.com/originals/5c/41/f4/5c41f4d2175ab34d7ec92f61b32cd61b..."
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https://i.pinimg.com/originals/5c/41/f4/5c41f4d2175ab34d7ec92f61b32cd61b.gif



>I've been out of town, but app is deleted and account is
>deactivated.
>
>P.S. I love hearing from the suckers posting here about how
>it's great, it's all on you, and "you ain't shit so delete,
>see if we care." So go ahead and post it.

  

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82. "Thanks bro, appreciate it"
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YOU GET IT!

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85. "if you act the same on twitter, you clearly did healthy thing"
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>YOU GET IT!

  

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86. "As always, your kind support is appreciated"
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83. "Like deleting an app for your benefit is a bad thing"
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90. "Nobody: "
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You: how can I make sure I get negative attention for this? I know, I’ll ask for it. Literally.

  

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91. "^^I love that film too!"
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Bob Odenkirk is great

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79. "I don't know if this article is spot on or lunacy, but it's worth a read..."
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https://davetroy.medium.com/no-elon-and-jack-are-not-competitors-theyre-collaborating-3e88cde5267d

No, Elon and Jack are not “competitors.” They’re collaborating.

Elon Musk’s deal to buy Twitter has been met with surprise, derision, and gnashing of teeth — and an overwhelming amount of well-intentioned but poorly-informed commentary and analysis.

As someone who has followed the company closely since its inception and has had a chance to talk in depth about technical topics with Jack Dorsey and the company’s other founders over the years, I have a different view.

Here’s a series of common questions regarding the deal and the relationship between Dorsey and Musk about which I see the most errors and misconceptions.

Q: Jack Dorsey is launching “Bluesky,” a new social network to compete with Twitter. I’ll just join that instead!

A: Sorry to disappoint, but Dorsey played a key role in Musk’s deal to take Twitter private. The two are good friends. And Bluesky is an initiative launched by Twitter. In April, Dorsey wrote, “In principle, I don’t believe anyone should own or run Twitter. It wants to be a public good at a protocol level, not a company. Solving for the problem of it being a company however, Elon is the singular solution I trust. I trust his mission to extend the light of consciousness.”


Q: Uh, if “no one should own or run Twitter,” why did Dorsey advocate selling it to Musk… I’m confused?

A: To get it out of the hands of Wall Street investors, and turn it into a “public good at a protocol level, not a company.” Dorsey and Musk believe it can do more good for humanity if it’s an open technology than if it’s a company owned by any one person or by Wall Street investors trying to maximize profits for shareholders.

Q: What do you mean, a “public good at a protocol level?” What even is that?

A: The foundation of the Internet is built on protocols that we mostly take for granted now. TCP/IP and HTTPS enable the web. Modern e-mail is built on top of SMTP and IMAP protocols. Usenet newsgroups are built on top of NNTP. Dorsey envisions a foundational “Twitter” protocol that anyone can implement and run. This would need to become a formal Internet standard, which requires going through the Internet Engineering Task Force’s “Request for Comment” (RFC) process. This can take a long time. This is what Bluesky has been working on starting to map out.

Q: But the Bluesky website says its Beta is “launching soon.” Doesn’t that mean it’s close to ready?

A: It means they’re ready for you to start experimenting with some ideas. It doesn’t mean it’s close to being a “product” or “useful,” or some sort of viable competitor with any other product or service. And as of yet it’s difficult to know exactly what a service might look like. Eventually, it might form the basis for a new implementation of Twitter that would replace the current product, and it could be open for others to interoperate with — if they can build a functional and useful protocol, which may take years.

Q: This all sounds crazy. Doesn’t Musk want to make money by owning Twitter?

A: The goals are more ideological in nature. Musk and his backers believe that the global geopolitical arena was being warped by too much “woke” ideology and censorship, and wanted to fix that by first restoring voices that had previously been silenced —and then implementing technical and algorithmic solutions that allow each user to get the experience they want. They think this can “solve” the problems that people cite about social media content. Making money, they figure, will come from the secondary effects of enabling “free speech” and the possibility of building other services like payments and replacing government on top of such an app. Plus the company’s social graph data is a goldmine for other businesses that may wish to benefit from detailed knowledge of the makeup of society.

Q: Uh, isn’t it naive to think that there’s a technical solution to harmful content? Isn’t that likely to lead to more radicalization and cultish behavior?

A: Yes, it’s completely naive and they are being willfully ignorant of the harmful side effects of content. It is a kind of tech fundamentalist solutionism that posits that for any difficult problem, there must be a technical solution. Many sociologists and cultural scholars would argue differently.

Q: What does Dorsey mean, “I trust mission to extend the light of consciousness?”

A: This is a reference to “longtermism,” the heavily marketed philosophy being promoted by Musk and his friend William MacAskill that asserts the only thing that matters is humanity’s future in space, and that the only goal of the living is to maximize the number of future humans alive, as well as the number of artificial intelligence instances that could possibly exist in the future. This mandate is most often used to brush aside calls for improving conditions and alleviating suffering among the living here on Earth now. Because, the theory goes, giving a poor person a blanket isn’t likely to be as useful for the future of humanity as building a rocket to Mars. Longtermism is heavily influenced by “Russian Cosmism” and is also directly adjacent to “Effective Altruism.” Musk’s stated mission, which he intends to fulfill in his lifetime, is to “make humanity a multiplanetary species.” The anti-democratic urge in longtermism is rooted in the belief that “mob rule” will lead to nuclear annihilation; we should, Musk thinks, be guided by “wiser” minds — like his and Putin’s apparently.

Q: Okay, so Musk and Dorsey are collaborators in some weird Mars cult, and don’t actually care about making money from Twitter?

A: Yeah, you’re getting it. Musk also seems pretty interested in helping advance Putin’s “multipolar world order,” which is why he plays footsie with QAnon and MAGA accounts, and pals around with Putin and Dmitry Medvedev. “How are things going in Bakhmut?,” Musk asked Medvedev.

Q: So this is why Musk has been so supportive of the Russians lately? I thought he was on Ukraine’s side, since he helped them out with Starlink?

A: It’s best to look at Musk as a kind of power broker between multiple parties, including Ukraine and Russia. SpaceX was made possible by laws passed by Dana Rohrabacher, Putin’s favorite Congressman. He really doesn’t like the US government, the SEC, and our politicians, and all things considered, he’d probably prefer to replace all of it with an app — call it “X,” the everything app. Elon might say: “Do we really need a government, or could everyone just vote with an app? Be honest.”

Q: So Musk wants to overthrow governments, and Dorsey is helping?

A: Don’t be so dramatic. Everyone knows that the only way to advance society is through technocracy. Musk’s grandfather, Joshua Haldeman, was involved in the technocracy movement in Canada in the 1930’s and was arrested — because it was seen as a threat to the government. The philosopher James Burnham wrote in his 1941 book, “The Managerial Revolution” that society should be run by technical managers, not elected politicians. Russian “methodologists” and “political technologists” concluded the same thing in the 1990’s when they realized that “democracy” would just lead to mob-rule by populists. Democracy, they concluded, must be managed. This is what Putin has concluded, also.

Q: So Putin, Musk, and Dorsey share the same vision?

A: It’s complicated. All seem to think a “multipolar world” is a good thing, because after all, shouldn’t Russia get to do its thing and not be bothered by anyone else? That’s “free speech” and opposes “cancel culture,” right? So yeah, that’s aligned with Putin. But Putin himself doesn’t support free speech; his government censors wildly, but it does support speech that breaks the hegemony of the Western elites. As do Musk and friends. This is internally inconsistent.

Q: Back to the money thing… won’t advertisers balk at all this potential chaos, and won’t Twitter’s business model suffer?

A: Musk and the people backing all this are more interested in reshaping the global order than in earning fake “fiat currency.” Their real goal is to usher in “hard currency” and re-base global currencies around scarcity and physical assets. So no it really doesn’t matter much what happens to Twitter’s ad model in the meantime. It will probably do alright, and they can probably find other ways to make money, like adding in payments and weird Dogecoin schemes.

Q: How is Twitter going to help them kill off fiat currency? You mean like replace the dollar as the world’s reserve currency?

A: As the Russian “methodologists” will tell you, it’s incredibly important to control the information space if you want to alter the real world. As the world plunges deeper into war and economic chaos in 2023–2024, there are real (perceived) opportunities to advance cryptocurrencies and asset-backed tokens to replace the dollar. Whether any of this is realistic or not remains to be seen, but this is what they’d like to pursue — Musk and his deal backers in particular.

Q: So this is why Musk seemingly “overpaid” for Twitter? He and his backers want to use it as a tool of information warfare, to kill off the dollar and help usher in Putin’s “multipolar world?”

A: Yes, that’s why they “overpaid” for Twitter. Because the end goals have nothing to do with Twitter or its ad model by itself. It’s merely a means to an end. Musk is likely to join forces with Trump’s Truth Social and Kanye West’s Parler to try to control much of the information space. And they’ve got the threat of Putin’s nukes to force the issue.

Q: So isn’t Musk’s ownership of Twitter a national security risk? Shouldn’t the deal have been stopped on national security grounds?

A: Yes, this is all a national security risk and the deal should probably have been stopped. The fact that it wasn’t is reflective of either fecklessness or capture of the US government.

Q: Can Musk and his friends really do all this? Should we really be worried? It seems so far-fetched.

A: That remains to be seen, and it’s unlikely they can achieve all they’d like to on the timeline they’d prefer. It will likely take years to make Bluesky into a viable product. However, just because it’s hard doesn’t mean they aren’t going to try. As for the broader anti-government agenda, as we’ve seen with January 6th and other attempts to challenge government, even unsuccessful efforts can be incredibly damaging. It’s worth monitoring the direction this takes and, the effects that it has on society and democracy.

A few other minor corrections to popular commentary on the deal:

Musk will just manipulate the stock price to make money. There is no more public-facing “stock price,” it’s a private company now. $TWTR is no longer a thing.
Boy, Jack really screwed Elon by making him overpay. No, Jack basically asked Elon to buy the company and Elon set the price. Jack owned around 2.4% of Twitter. It’s not clear if he even transacted his shares, or kept them.
Parag is smarter than Elon, he forced him to overpay. Eh, I’m sure Parag did his job, but as CEO he was really responsible for operational concerns. It was the company’s Board and legal team that brought it to a successful close. Parag got his agreed-upon severance package.
Elon never really wanted to do the deal… but they forced him. No, he wanted to do the deal all along, for the reasons I outlined. He might have liked to force some disclosures or lower the price. At some point, the delay and expense of potential litigation wasn’t worth it.
For the record I think Elon is a sociopath, and that this all is going to end in disaster — I just couldn’t stand seeing so much shallow, poorly informed analysis proliferate. So I’ve done my best here to set the record straight.

Ultimately what we are dealing with is the fact that social engineering through control of the information environment is an inevitable reality—the only question is who has the means and moral authority to do it. (I’ve written a whitepaper about this set of concerns here.)

If democracy-minded people don’t seize control of the information environment, powerful sociopathic autocrats will do so instead. We leave a power vacuum open at our peril, and at the moment, Musk and Putin are the ones with the most will to fill it.

For additional background: Read my piece Paranoia on Parade: How Goldbugs, Libertarians and Religious Extremists Brought America to the Brink, which outlines many of the ideological and historical underpinnings of this movement.

I’ve known Jack Dorsey since 2007 and was the first external developer to utilize the Twitter API, for a project called Twittervision, which was featured in the Museum of Modern Art in 2008. I’ve done a lot of data visualization and data-driven journalism using the Twitter API since then. I’m currently focused on investigative journalism about information warfare and threats to democracy. Follow my work at davetroy.com.

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84. "this line is the whole thing. "
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"If democracy-minded people don’t seize control of the information environment, powerful sociopathic autocrats will do so instead. We leave a power vacuum open at our peril, and at the moment, Musk and Putin are the ones with the most will to fill it."


Government is probably 100 years behind where it needs to be with regards to regulating the information environment.



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88. "It's lunacy"
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He's trying to make a super app.

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115. "Yeah no this doesn't make any sense. "
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A big part of this is that Elon doesn't need twitter to make money. Man has told investors that he will grow revenue from 5B today to 25B billion in 5 years. And he has 17B in debt to service. He needs this to make money.

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80. "Nah, but this would be the best time for someone to launch a competing"
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app. Especially if weirdos start to overrun the current version of Twitter.

  

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81. "been too lazy to reset my forgotten password and delete til now..."
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....haven't used it in a decade anyway so RIP



  

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92. "Major changes to verification coming day before election day"
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Can’t possibly see anything wrong or harmful with that
https://mobile.twitter.com/RMac18/status/1588304086792667136

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93. "Taps the sign"
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https://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=13471860&mode=full#13471879

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94. "Verification changes from identity verification to verification of payme..."
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>Can’t possibly see anything wrong or harmful with that
>https://mobile.twitter.com/RMac18/status/1588304086792667136

Apple had a BAD EXPERIENCE with their new ad system where scammy and gambling apps dominated ad placements because those businesses paid for ads. This will happen on Twitter too.

All it takes under Twitter's new system to get a checkbox is to pay for it - effectively making all other checkmarks given in the old ID verification system much less unique and valuable.

And much less trustworthy - especially because your display name on your profile can be anything - it's only your Twitter handle that is unique.

And he might net *millions* from it - for a company that has *billions* in new debt.

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95. "This is so stupid I can’t even believe it until I see it."
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But then again he just posted hateful and dumb Paul Pelosi gay fanfic in response to Hillary Clinton last week so anything is possible with this clown.

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96. "I feel like I am starting to see the 4Chan-ification of my TL already. "
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but it may be in my head. A lot more brazenly racist comments.

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97. "Risk assessment has stopped"
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FgueR9aXkAUpUOm?format=jpg&name=large

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/04/podcasts/life-under-musk-two-twitter-employees-speak-out.html?showTranscript=1

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98. "To repeat what I said upthread"
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After being extremely too close to the innerworkings for the last year, the degree to which he doesn’t care about humans is somehow understated.

Additionally the degree that he and the people that work for him will cut corners to achieve his goals makes everything haphazard.

It’s twitter, what’s the big harm you may think

You wouldn’t download any random app on your phone because of a myriad of reasons. That’s what twitter is about to become. I promise you. You may have a good or bad front facing experience. On the backend you’re taking on significant risk.

For me he’s top five people that should be far away from levers of power.

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102. "Yup - I’m pretty much done "
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I go there out of habit for music and sports info, and couldn’t care less what these dickhead Republicans are saying, but it’s been everywhere lately. Takes a lot of discipline just to hit “block” without telling them to suck a fat dick and die first.

  

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99. "has anyone's feed changed at all?"
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my feed has never been like pure lefty or anything, but this past week i'm getting sooo many tweets popping up on from Ben Shapiro, Trump Jr, Rob Schneider, James woods, etc.. some are based on degrees of separation (this person follows x), and some just straight suggested.

it not like that never happened before but now it's at a frequency where i had to legit make sure i wasn't following Ben Shapiro lol.

haven't even started muting just because i'm curious to see if it keeps increasing.

  

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100. "oh, I have a slight feeling you'll not have to wait long...."
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>i'm curious to see if
>it keeps increasing.
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101. "It could be your feed changed from Latest Tweets to Top Tweets"
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That happened to me several months back and my feed immediately turned into a right wing cesspool.

I don't remember making the change and not sure if I did it inadvertently or it was done on twitter's end.

I say that because my feed hasn't notably changed yet since Apartheid Clyde took over.

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103. "possibly. I kinda go back and forth between new/top"
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already tho

seeing these people isn't necessarily new, and i hear nothing's really been done yet but I swear it's increased like 5x in the past week.



  

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104. "I mean, I wouldn't put it passed them"
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I just haven't noticed any noticeable changes up to this point to my feed. But I keep it set to Latest.

We'll see as Musk's attack continues.

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106. "you were right. Home/Top seems to be the culprit"
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I don't spend a huge amount of time on twitter, and hadn't checked again until this morning.

it seemed normal so i had to check where it was set, which was latest first. when i switched back to Top, was 80% culture war recommendations from both ends (Kevin Kurse, Chris hayes, Fetterman, Chernovich, Kevin Sorbo, more conservatives i never heard of...) damn if it's not way more than usual though lol.

i probably slow scrolled to many elon stories or something idk

  

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105. "the people you follow must follow/interact w/ that stuff then"
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it's business as usual on my TL. i dont see any of that.

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107. "you probably retweeted someone quote tweeting one of them"
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or something like that

go to your interests feed and remove things

this is a thing that happens

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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108. "Elon Musk threats to 'thermonuclear name and shame'"
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Advertisers pause spending due to uncertainty - then Elon threatens what IS CERTAN - unleash trolls to damage those brands.

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Elon Musk threats to 'thermonuclear name and shame' companies that paused advertising on Twitter

https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-threatens-companies-pausing-twitter-ads-2022-11


On Friday, Elon Musk threatened a 'thermonuclear name and shame' against companies that paused advertising on Twitter.

Prior to the statement, Musk blamed pressure from activist groups for the pause on ad spending.

Before the takeover, Musk promised investors Twitter wouldn't become a "free-for-all hellscape" in a letter.

The chaos surrounding Elon Musk's takeover of Twitter continues to mount after the tech billionaire seemingly threatened advertisers in a tweet Friday evening.

Musk said a "thermonuclear name & shame" is coming to companies that have paused their advertising as they wait to see the direction Twitter takes under his new leadership. The tweet came in response to a suggestion from Mike Davis, the former chief counsel for nominations to Senate Judiciary Chairman Chuck Grassley, that Musk list the dissenters in an effort to start a "counter-boycott."

The foreboding message came hours after Musk blamed activist groups for pressuring advertisers and causing a "massive drop in revenue" for Twitter.

"Extremely messed up! They're trying to destroy free speech in America," Musk wrote.

Before taking the helm of Twitter, Musk tweeted an open letter to advertisers promising the platform wouldn't become a "free-for-all hellscape." Companies including General Motors, Volkswagen, Audi, and Pfizer have all paused their advertising on Twitter, expressing concern over potential threats to brand safety and shifts to content moderation strategy.

In a tweet on Saturday, Luma Partners CEO Terence Kawaja responded to Musk's threat to advertisers by calling out his role in generating uncertainty around the company.


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109. "hey, Twitter's gotta make so all the people here who like it can stay"
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tweeting

...along with lot's of election misinformation and all that stuff generated apace in the new Elon Twitter era.

  

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110. "Comedi si now legal"
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Twitter suspended comedian Kathy Griffin's account after she changed her name to Elon Musk to make fun of him

https://www.businessinsider.com/twitter-suspends-kathy-griffins-account-after-she-parodied-elon-musk-2022-11

Twitter suspended comedian Kathy Griffin's account on Sunday evening after she jokingly pretended to be Elon Musk on the platform and mocked him in several tweets.

Griffin now joins a range of several celebrities and figures who had their Twitter handles suspended for parodying Musk. A week earlier, the billionaire had declared that "comedy is now legal on Twitter," after buying the platform.

Griffin had changed her name to "Elon Musk" and copied his profile picture, tweeting: "After much spirited discussion with the females in my life, I've decided that voting blue for their choice is only right. (They're also sexy females, btw.) #VoteBlueToProtectWomen."

Earlier that day, Musk said that Twitter would permanently suspend handles that impersonate someone if the owner fails to clearly denote that their account is a parody.

"Previously, we issued a warning before suspension, but now that we are rolling out widespread verification, there will be no warning," Musk tweeted.

Any name change at all from a verified account would lead to "temporary loss of verified checkmark," he added.

Musk later replied to a tweet about Griffin's suspension.

"Actually she was suspended for impersonating a comedian," the billionaire wrote.

"But if she really wants her account back, she can have it," he said. "For $8," he added, referencing his proposed paid-verification checkmark system for $7.99 a month.

In a similar case, former NFL punter Chris Kluwe had his verified account suspended when he changed its details to match Musk's profile. "There is nothing better than waking up and enjoying a fresh, steaming cup of my own urine," he tweeted.

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111. "Elon Musk: Vote for Republicans"
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Elon Musk, now perched atop Twitter, urges his followers to vote for Republicans

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/elon-musk-twitter-republicans-midterm-election/

New Twitter owner Elon Musk is telling his more than 100 million followers on the social media service to cast ballots for Republicans in Tuesday's midterm elections.

In a tweet addressed to "independent-minded voters," the Tesla chief executive advised voting for a Republican Congress, saying that "shared power curbs the worst excesses of both parties."

Musk's political message comes just over a week after he posted a tweet advancing baseless allegations about the recent attack on the husband of House speaker Nancy Pelosi, a Democrat. The tweet was later deleted. Musk on Sunday also tweeted that "Twitter needs to become by far the most accurate source of information about the world. That's our mission."

Since completing his $44 billion purchase of Twitter late last month, Musk has moved swiftly to put his imprint on the struggling company. Along with firing former CEO Parag Agrawal and other top executives, Musk has laid off roughly half the company's workforce, or about 3,700 people, in a move to slash costs.

Musk, who has characterized himself as an advocate for free speech, has also vowed to relax content moderation on the platform after a "council" reviews its policies. On Sunday, he tweeted that Twitter would permanently suspend any account that impersonates another person. Kathy Griffin was among those to lose her Twitter privileges after the comedian and others changed their display names to "Elon Musk."

et the takeover has also led a number of major companies to suspend their advertising on Twitter, including Audi, General Mills, GM, Mondelez and Pfizer, amid pressure from human rights groups. Musk on Friday said that has caused a "massive drop" in revenue at the company, whose growth had slowed sharply this year and which continues to lose money.

Previously, Musk has expressed his desire to make Twitter less reliant on advertising, in part by charging an $8 monthly fee for verification.
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112. "Also: Elon posts Nazi imagery "
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Also this tweet:
Musk Shares a Nazi Meme Then Tells Twitter to Vote Republican

https://www.thedailybeast.com/elon-musks-shares-a-nazi-meme-then-tells-twitter-followers-to-vote-republican-in-tuesdays-midterm-elections

Note: People currently arguing it was a Wehrmacht soldier - and not a "real" Nazi , just the normal German military during World War II - see the difference?

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114. "he didn't bring Trump back yet because it could hurt repubs"
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in the mid terms. he sucks up all the press and it would remind people of the constant chaos

trump will prob be back before the weekend.

as far as the other shit, its pretty predictable. he claimed to be a republican now a few months back, now he's back to pretending he's an independent/free thinker.

his reasoning is dumb and phony too. when repubs take over congress, he's gonna support the republican nominee on some. "i believe in balance but the dems are just too radical!"

  

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113. "haven't used in years. Actively deactivated that bitch today"
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116. "what if J*n*s bought okp?"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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118. "Who?"
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123. "Mike J*n*s."
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124. "lol."
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*skatin' the rings of saturn*


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126. "nice!"
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130. "lol"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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153. "RE: Mike J*n*s."
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117. "all of Twitter behind a paywall"
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good luck with that...

https://www.theverge.com/2022/11/7/23446262/elon-musk-twitter-paywall-possible

If Friday brought massive layoffs to Twitter, Monday brought fresh evidence that the company will never be the same. Elon Musk has discussed putting the entire site behind a paywall, Platformer has learned. Meanwhile, the company is scrambling to lure back employees who it laid off mere hours ago, and some workers say the economics behind its soon-to-relaunch Twitter Blue subscription could actually lose the company money.

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119. "10000000% the best idea"
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He'll make MILLIONS!!!!

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121. "Elon failing miserably and ruining twitter at the same time, sounds"
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like a win/win.

*prayer hands emoji*

  

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120. "Can tek and poetx scrape the site and mirror it today? "
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Especially on all the police shootings, every election, and the killing of black activists in st. Louis?

America has imported more warlord theocracy from Afghanistan than it has exported democracy.

  

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166. "RE: Can tek and poetx scrape the site and mirror it today? "
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America has imported more warlord theocracy from Afghanistan than it has exported democracy.

  

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122. "Nope, Twitter is fun and good"
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It's a newsfeed that you can curate according to writer, not just news outlet. And it gives people a chance to interact with actual experts in serious disciplines who are willing to freely offer their perspectives. There are serious historians practicing their craft and drafting their work in real time and we can see it, for free, on our phones. That's a modern miracle.

Oh, and you can tell an actual Hapsburg and an actual Mussolini what you think of them. And they're probably going to read it. That's democracy in action. It, both the app in general and one's individual feed, needs to be maintained actively and not run on autopilot. But the upsides are so much bigger than the downsides.

I'll also add that, when twitter kicks it, that won't just be the end of the matter. There's going to be a void and some other app that we have less control over is going to fill it.

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125. "the weird thing about twitter is that it's amazing"
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but it also has basically no value

and was the one good idea of a dude who otherwise seems to be a complete fucking idiot

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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127. "“Elon is willing to take on a huge amount of risk in relation to his c..."
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In the same message, the employee said Twitter’s current head of Legal, Alex Spiro, said “Elon is willing to take on a huge amount of risk in relation to his company and its users, because ‘Elon puts rockets into space, he’s not afraid of the FTC

https://mobile.twitter.com/CaseyNewton/status/1590725083294990336

According to messages shared in Twitter Slack, Twitter’s CISO, chief privacy office, and chief compliance officer all resigned last night.

An employee says it will be up to engineers to “self-certify compliance with FTC requirements and other laws.”


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128. "so why is dude blowing this up? Just because he can? "
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A 19 year old paid the $8 and spoofed Adam Schefter’s site and said the Raiders coach was fired this morning.

Just to prove how sloppy twitter is right now.

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129. "As I said upthread. Dude doesnt care about humans"
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And where a normal person sees a social media platform as a means for humans to communicate with each other
A person like him sees it as a way to monetize communication
All of the ideas stem from that. It’s not much deeper that than.
It’s why he doesnt care about advertisements much, or PR, or user experience, and also why he’s focused on bots but not at the same time

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136. "I doubt the previous owners REALLY cared about humans either"
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but at least they were competent in running the company and understood why it was successful.

I read the bulk of their income came from Advertising, so if Advertisers don't want to fuck with Twitter they're going to be in trouble.

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137. "but they probably cared a lot more than Elon.. lol"
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138. "I dont think yall get it. His overall belief system is that future human..."
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More valuable than current humans and that he’s the sole person on this planet to push humanity to that end
In his view yours or my life is only as valuable as it is to extend the human experience of certain type of humanity
In that lens most everyone is not only not important but also disposable.
This person is sociopathic in their singular vision and has been rewarded by becoming the “richest” man on the planet.
He will always double down on that maniacal and drive

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139. "But Apple charges for charging bricks...."
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They are BOTH THE SAME!

(Sorry, just replying before all the others reply with this EXACT logic.)

>More valuable than current humans and that he’s the sole
>person on this planet to push humanity to that end
>In his view yours or my life is only as valuable as it is to
>extend the human experience of certain type of humanity
>In that lens most everyone is not only not important but also
>disposable.
>This person is sociopathic in their singular vision and has
>been rewarded by becoming the “richest” man on the planet.
>
>He will always double down on that maniacal and drive

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140. "Honestly even in my family texts they dont get it"
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Like they can ask all of the work questions and believe me on how cool things are but the second I start talking about my worries and risks they downplay it.
I dont know what thats about.

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131. "Hubris. Absolute belief in his own genius. Greed."
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And a simple desire to make all his money back by whatever means necessary after over-paying.

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134. "I genuinely believe he's a russian asset"
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Ultimately he wants to buy aluminum and mineral rights from Russia, so it's in his best interest to help disrupt American institutions, which is a high priority for the Kremlin.

Some lawyer on Twitter mentioned something about having Twitter file for bankruptcy and using it as a cover to restructure his debt, so that's an option too.

Lastly, a small part of me also just feels like he's an immature egotistical dickhead who's previous success covered up his terrible management style and lack of genuine innovation, so now he's just getting exposed 🤷🏾‍♀️.

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132. "Well, it only took 13 to functionally run the site into the ground"
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Is that a win considering that it took a week to kill Digg?

What a clusterfuck.

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133. "Digg took much longer than a week."
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They died after essentially making the same mistake that Elon is making now:
1. Large product pivot
2. Thinking they can quickly rewrite the app (second system syndrome)

The whole saga played out over a couple of months iirc.

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135. "I can't think of another CEO so misled by their own desire to uphold"
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a public persona

I feel like this was entirely egged on by the right and the edgelord fanboys that idolize him

He had multiple chances to back away and let the clamor die, but he went all in. Showing up with a sink as a stunt while sending doomer emails to staff? Any normal billionaire (as normal as they can be) wouldn't think to do this stuff.




  

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142. "Everyone's mental health is pretty much trash"
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He's also a (confessed?) aspy.

Real problem is you can't tell people that much money ANYTHING.

I think he's made a huge mistake. He could literally lose 50 billion dollars (entire value of company + penalties and lawsuits).

Already I'm wondering if the last few weeks represent the largest decrease of someone's net worth in world history.

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144. "Sam Bankman-Fried too"
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bleed them dry lol

  

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141. "I just tweeted about this lol"
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It does NOT take long to totally fuck a social media platform.

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143. "Is this the first major example of the “disrupters” disrupting “di..."
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Facebook just canibalized all of its competitors, this feels different.
Like a roach hopping in an edgar suit (c) Men In Black

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145. "Paid verification system paused "
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Lol.

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/11/11/twitter-blue-subscription-disappears-from-app.html

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146. "I am SURE that EVERY business analysts and product owner @Titter told hi..."
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Paying for something DOES NTO EQUAL VERIFICATION OF IDENTITY.

It's verification of payment.

And his "$8 is barrier that will stop bots" is actually "Hey, it's only $8 to run my bot and get promoted."

Assuming he's doing as best as he can then he's a deeply deeply stupid man.



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147. "Hey why are folks talking like the lights are about to go out on twitter"
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any moment now?

Is the idea that everyone will leave? Technically it will fall apart? It will go bankrupt AND shutdown?

It's hard to see any of this happening. I mean even if it goes bankrupt someone who knows how to run it will buy it I would think.


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148. "ads were their lifeline and they pissed off every major brand"
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why the fuck would McDonald's advertise on there when any asshole with 8 bucks can impersonate them?

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One insider says the company’s current staffing isn’t able to sustain the platform.

https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/11/08/1062886/heres-how-a-twitter-engineer-says-it-will-break-in-the-coming-weeks/?utm_source=pocket_saves


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November 8, 2022

On November 4, just hours after Elon Musk fired half of the 7,500 employees previously working at Twitter, some people began to see small signs that something was wrong with everyone’s favorite hellsite. And they saw it through retweets.

Twitter introduced retweets in 2009, turning an organic thing people were already doing—pasting someone else’s username and tweet, preceded by the letters RT—into a software function. In the years since, the retweet and its distant cousin the quote tweet (which launched in April 2015) have become two of the most common mechanics on Twitter.

But on Friday, a few users who pressed the retweet button saw the years roll back to 2009. Manual retweets, as they were called, were back.

The return of the manual retweet wasn’t Elon Musk’s latest attempt to appease users. Instead, it was the first public crack in the edifice of Twitter’s code base—a blip on the seismometer that warns of a bigger earthquake to come.

A massive tech platform like Twitter is built upon very many interdependent parts. “The larger catastrophic failures are a little more titillating, but the biggest risk is the smaller things starting to degrade,” says Ben Krueger, a site reliability engineer who has more than two decades of experience in the tech industry. “These are very big, very complicated systems.” Krueger says one 2017 presentation from Twitter staff includes a statistic suggesting that more than half the back-end infrastructure was dedicated to storing data.

While many of Musk’s detractors may hope the platform goes through the equivalent of thermonuclear destruction, the collapse of something like Twitter happens gradually. For those who know, gradual breakdowns are a sign of concern that a larger crash could be imminent. And that’s what’s happening now.

It’s the small things
Whether it’s manual RTs appearing for a moment before retweets slowly morph into their standard form, ghostly follower counts that race ahead of the number of people actually following you, or replies that simply refuse to load, small bugs are appearing at Twitter’s periphery. Even Twitter’s rules, which Musk linked to on November 7, went offline temporarily under the load of millions of eyeballs. In short, it’s becoming unreliable.

“Sometimes you’ll get notifications that are a little off,” says one engineer currently working at Twitter, who’s concerned about the way the platform is reacting after vast swathes of his colleagues who were previously employed to keep the site running smoothly were fired. (That last sentence is why the engineer has been granted anonymity to talk for this story.) After struggling with downtime during its “Fail Whale” days, Twitter eventually became lauded for its team of site reliability engineers, or SREs. Yet this team has been decimated in the aftermath of Musk’s takeover. “It’s small things, at the moment, but they do really add up as far as the perception of stability,” says the engineer.

The small suggestions of something wrong will amplify and multiply as time goes on, he predicts—in part because the skeleton staff remaining to handle these issues will quickly burn out. “Round-the-clock is detrimental to quality, and we’re already kind of seeing this,” he says.

Twitter’s remaining engineers have largely been tasked with keeping the site stable over the last few days, since the new CEO decided to get rid of a significant chunk of the staff maintaining its code base. As the company tries to return to some semblance of normalcy, more of their time will be spent addressing Musk’s (often taxing) whims for new products and features, rather than keeping what’s already there running.

This is particularly problematic, says Krueger, for a site like Twitter, which can have unforeseen spikes in user traffic and interest. Krueger contrasts Twitter with online retail sites, where companies can prepare for big traffic events like Black Friday with some predictability. “When it comes to Twitter, they have the possibility of having a Black Friday on any given day at any time of the day,” he says. “At any given day, some news event can happen that can have significant impact on the conversation.” Responding to that is harder to do when you lay off up to 80% of your SREs—a figure Krueger says has been bandied about within the industry but which MIT Technology Review has been unable to confirm. The Twitter engineer agreed that the percentage sounded “plausible.”

That engineer doesn’t see a route out of the issue—other than reversing the layoffs (which the company has reportedly already attempted to roll back somewhat). “If we’re going to be pushing at a breakneck pace, then things will break,” he says. “There’s no way around that. We’re accumulating technical debt much faster than before—almost as fast as we’re accumulating financial debt.”

The list grows longer
He presents a dystopian future where issues pile up as the backlog of maintenance tasks and fixes grows longer and longer. “Things will be broken. Things will be broken more often. Things will be broken for longer periods of time. Things will be broken in more severe ways,” he says. “Everything will compound until, eventually, it’s not usable.”

Twitter’s collapse into an unusable wreck is some time off, the engineer says, but the telltale signs of process rot are already there. It starts with the small things: “Bugs in whatever part of whatever client they’re using; whatever service in the back end they’re trying to use. They’ll be small annoyances to start, but as the back-end fixes are being delayed, things will accumulate until people will eventually just give up.”

Krueger says that Twitter won’t blink out of life, but we’ll start to see a greater number of tweets not loading, and accounts coming into and out of existence seemingly at a whim. “I would expect anything that’s writing data on the back end to possibly have slowness, timeouts, and a lot more subtle types of failure conditions,” he says. “But they’re often more insidious. And they also generally take a lot more effort to track down and resolve. If you don’t have enough engineers, that’s going to be a significant problem.”

The juddering manual retweets and faltering follower counts are indications that this is already happening. Twitter engineers have designed fail-safes that the platform can fall back on so that the functionality doesn’t go totally offline but cut-down versions are provided instead. That’s what we’re seeing, says Krueger.

Alongside the minor malfunctions, the Twitter engineer believes that there’ll be significant outages on the horizon, thanks in part to Musk’s drive to reduce Twitter’s cloud computing server load in an attempt to claw back up to $3 million a day in infrastructure costs. Reuters reports that this project, which came from Musk’s war room, is called the “Deep Cuts Plan.” One of Reuters’s sources called the idea “delusional,” while Alan Woodward, a cybersecurity professor at the University of Surrey, says that “unless they’ve massively overengineered the current system, the risk of poorer capacity and availability seems a logical conclusion.”

Brain drain
Meanwhile, when things do go kaput, there’s no longer the institutional knowledge to quickly fix issues as they arise. “A lot of the people I saw who were leaving after Friday have been there nine, 10, 11 years, which is just ridiculous for a tech company,” says the Twitter engineer. As those individuals walked out of Twitter offices, decades of knowledge about how its systems worked disappeared with them. (Those within Twitter, and those watching from the sidelines, have previously argued that Twitter’s knowledge base is overly concentrated in the minds of a handful of programmers, some of whom have been fired.)

Unfortunately, teams stripped back to their bare bones (according to those remaining at Twitter) include the tech writers’ team. “We had good documentation because of ,” says the engineer. No longer. When things go wrong, it’ll be harder to find out what has happened.

Getting answers will be harder externally as well. The communications team has been cut down from between 80 and 100 to just two people, according to one former team member who MIT Technology Review spoke to. “There’s too much for them to do, and they don’t speak enough languages to deal with the press as they need to,” says the engineer.

When MIT Technology Review reached out to Twitter for this story, the email went unanswered.

Musk’s recent criticism of Mastodon, the open-source alternative to Twitter that has piled on users in the days since the entrepreneur took control of the platform, invites the suggestion that those in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones. The Twitter CEO tweeted, then quickly deleted, a post telling users, “If you don’t like Twitter anymore, there is awesome site called Masterbatedone .” Accompanying the words was a physical picture of his laptop screen open on Paul Krugman’s Mastodon profile, showing the economics columnist trying multiple times to post. Despite Musk’s attempt to highlight Mastodon’s unreliability, its success has been remarkable: nearly half a million people have signed up since Musk took over Twitter.

It’s happening at the same time that the first cracks in Twitter’s edifice are starting to show. It’s just the beginning, expects Krueger. “I would expect to start seeing significant public-facing problems with the technology within six months,” he says. “And I feel like that’s a generous estimate.”

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150. "*popcorn gif*"
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158. "the stuff in this article"
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feels like stuff anyone could guess, and it's stuff generally seen already


I agree w/ this tweet, that where it could really get fucked, is a cert expiration (WHICH EVERYONE ON THIS FORUM SHOULD BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND BY NOW LOL)

https://twitter.com/MalwareJake/status/1594045810223697920

"I'm FAR more concerned with certificate management. If I were a betting man, I'd think that's the first thing to break."

for something like twitter, there are countless services, and servers that all have certs that expire at random times, and it's who even knows how many peoples' jobs to stay on top of all of that.

idk if all those people don't work there anymore, but I know for sure that some of them don't, and it's hard enough staying on top of even when just one person leaves.

outside of okp, I've seen it happen multiple times at work.

there are so many moving parts behind little shit like logging in or displaying an image and if just one of them is boned you have nothing, and if everyone knows where everything is it can still take 6-12 hours to fix.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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159. "because he looks like he is forcing out the best people"
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at a record pace?

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160. "> Someone who knows how to run it will buy it I would think."
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I mean Elon doesn't know how to run it - he's not writing the code, designing the infrastructure and doing all the maintenance, etc.

And there are so many moving parts at Twitter's scale that the dream/lie that a small team of Any Rand-ian entrepreneurs will be able to keep it running as it was before.

And coming in to "fix it" would require a large skilled team AND time.

No one "knows" how to run it except the thousands of people who have been fired. And not any single one or small gorup of them really understood it all.

I expect him to jettison large parts of the platform like localized versions, Twitter Spaces, Fleets, etc.
Um, is Superfollow still a thing??

And I could see video/picture hosting being moved to a pay service.

He's effectively already jettisoned trust and safety, content moderation, copyright protection, etc.


I'd SERIOUSLY hope that in the coming days he outlines his content moderation enforcement mechanism in some form OR the app is de-platformed by Google and Apple until he does(and if he is not adequately moderating content.)



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151. "Is Musk the dumbest "world's richest man!" ever?"
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Less than a month, and the company is in its death throes.

Reportedly, that "WE NEED YOU TO BE HARDCORE OR THERE'S THE DOOR!" e-mail went over like a wet fart. People are saying somewhere 75% of the remaining employees decided to bounce, even after Musk tried to sorta walk it back. Now the offices are closed until Monday, and no one's badges will work.

I'm just waiting for stories that the severance checks promised to fleeing employees have started to bounce.

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157. "Easily."
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152. "no"
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154. "Absolutely not. I just got to that motherfucker for real"
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Holla at me btw if you on there @thereisacode

  

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155. "Yeah its over "
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156. "burn baby burn "
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161. "To be fair to him, he passed his first today."
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The World Cup is underway and Twitter didn't collapse. Hast to take that as a win.

If he pulls this Twitter thing off with a fraction of the employees they used to have it'll send shockwaves throughout the industry.

  

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Is what matters most.
And I hope that at least consumers here dont do the PR work for him.
All hardware and software is so much more than what we see

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163. "Humans are hilarious with their toys!"
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what will they think is important next?

not air, water, or food for their neighbors

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164. "Interest insight on why advertisers are and will be leaving the platform..."
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https://twitter.com/petergyang/status/1594696056348049410?t=gkCjtjceSUSl_3xAb0YyfQ&s=19

  

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167. "Heard about the 2AF problem"
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but the real issue is slowly but surely more of this shit is going to break once they don’t have the manpower to keep up with daily operations.

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168. "we dug as deep as we could on the 2fa thing "
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and while there were definitely people having problems, the rumor about a service being down or one particular vector being completely crashed didn't hold up.

the people saying it didn't know anything, and we found people who had it working on all ways at the same time

  

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165. "Yup, deleted a few days ago"
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I was never an active user, so not missing out on anything really. I can't stand Elon.

If a fat guy falls in the woods and there is no one around to see it, do the trees laugh?

  

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169. ""General" Amnesty"
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/11/24/twitter-musk-reverses-suspensions/

Elon Musk plans to reinstate nearly all previously banned Twitter accounts — to the alarm of activists and online trust and safety experts.

After posting a Twitter poll asking, “Should Twitter offer a general amnesty to suspended accounts, provided that they have not broken the law or engaged in egregious spam?” in which 72.4 percent of the respondents voted yes, Musk declared, “Amnesty begins next week.”

The Twitter CEO did not respond Thursday to a request for comment from The Washington Post. The poll garnered more than 3 million votes.

The mass return of users who had been banned for such offenses as violent threats, harassment and misinformation will have a significant impact on the platform, experts said. And many questioned how such a resurrection would be handled, given that it’s unclear what Musk means by “egregious spam” and the difficulty of separating out users who have “broken the law,” which vary widely by jurisdiction and country.

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170. "Fastest way to bankruptcy?"
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171. "I think we're looking at it too logically"
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It doesn't look like there's been a mass exodus from the platform yet so he's got a TON of users he can monetize if he figures out how.

And the site seems to keep largely running without major obvious TECHNICAL issues.

So Twitter's failure will be almost entirely dependent on losing users - and according to the poll here even most people are not going to be leaving unless it turns into the hell scape some already think it is.

If Elon can do these things it'll be viable:
1)Prevent major downtimes
2)HIDE/suppress hateful content from people who don't want to see it. Think REDDIT but with the users posting bad comments ALWAYS trying to figure out how to get it in front of more and more people.
3)Find a way to get near breaking even money wise - or just sink money into it because he has a TON of money.

In this model the right-wing trolls will get to post their vitriol AND complain about not having entirely "free speech."


He does all this I doubt people will leave - or those using it basically as an RSS feed.

Unless Apple and Google take the app of the store because of the lack of moderation.

But if his wild mood swings, complete lies, and obvious shit-posting hasn't scared folks off yet then I don't think it will.

He's a master conman and were out here saying "How do people keep falling for this shit??"

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172. "I think most of the MICROSERVICES ARE DEAD is bs"
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but twitter is going to get fucked by a cert expiration sooner or later

the problem is, musk is shit at running companies, and always has been.

he is doing a shit job now


his plan does not make twitter profitable, even if you cut costs to the very bone


he can (and I think he is) juke the stats by pushing more notifications, etc to juice active user numbers.

but it isn't showing more ads, and even if twitter weren't hell, it's a dogshit place for advertisers and that revenue is falling by more than any subscription can fill


sooner or later he loses interest and puts it in someone else's hands, the question is who that person is

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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173. "How did you actually type this on purpose "
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>the problem is, musk is shit at running companies, and always
>has been.
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Speculate on the future of Twitter all you want, but the guy single-handedly disrupted auto manufacturing and left the titans of the industry in a place they’ll never recover from. How’s that for “shit”

  

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174. "If by "single-handedly" you mean using government money then sure"
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Without those subsidies Tesla wouldn't exist.

  

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175. "I can tell you with 100% confidence that manufacturing has not been"
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Disrupted. Of all the things that have been changed manufacturing is not.
There’s nothing innovative about speed to customer, QC after sale/delivery.
That process is pretty much rejected in any other industry by the customer
Imagine getting a TV from Sony only when you get home and plug it in do you find out what needs to be repaired.
You’d throw a fit.

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176. "he bought tesla"
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kicked out the founders and sued to say he was a co-founder... so not really single-handedly...

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177. "Tesla might sell a million cars this year. Toyota will sell 10.5 million..."
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Gm will sell 7. Ford and Honda will sell 4 each.

He ain't disrupt anything.

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178. "Less than that Toyota manufacturing is the lead example of ALL manufactu..."
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Its not just the cars but the entire methodology of six sigma is built off of Toyota
Elon Musk has decided to take the software approach to manufacturing and there is sooooooo much waste and inefficiency in the manufacturing process. Just piles and piles of rework and short cuts built into every step.
It requires so many things to work, skirting laws, subsidies, investors, loans, etc … hell the company was nearly insolvent like 3 years ago.
The vehicles are one thing, but manufacturing is not the best part of the company at all.

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181. "because I've spent a significant part of the last decade"
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watching what he's done at Tesla

talking to the people who worked there

and talking to Elon Musk himself.


he didn't leave the titans of the industry anywhere.

he's building cars in a parking lot in California.

he has a new plant in Texas where he's sucking up to politicians who won't let him sell his cars in the state.

he's very good at selling tax credits, and hyping himself up.

he's very good at throwing engineers at a problem, working them until failure, and then replacing them with others, all incentivized by stock options.

he's very good at turning abject failure into people paying him to go away (he's done this more than once)

I know who Elon Musk is, and I don't say these things about him out of ignorance or even any kind of personal feelings. These are just the things that happened.


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182. "disrupted auto manufacturing and running a company are two different"
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things.


There are innovators and entrepreneurs who move quickly and break shit and that gets a lot of love these days but there are people who take a business and build it into something that grows indefinitely and is stable. Its the difference between Zuckerberg and Sheryl Sandberg.

Twitter had a problem with not consistently making money. But it had great revenue and a large user base so the right person or people could have come along and improved the business.

I thought it could have been Elon Musk. Slashing the staff by 50% wasn't even the worst idea. but the execution has been shit.

And if he thinks that Twitters biggest problem is lack of free speech, then you really have to think he is not as smart as people have been touting him to be.

If dude had stayed the SpaceX and Tesla Guy, he would have gone down as one of the business greats. I think he now goes down as another rich dork even if he manages to right the business by hiring the right people.


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184. "btw, if you want to call out Musk as disruptive for what he's done at Te..."
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there is an example you can use, it just isn't the cars.

it's the supercharger network.

it's vastly better than what anyone else has managed in EV charging, it's very widespread, and unlike tesla's actual vehicles, it's very valuable.


www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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194. "How are you this loud, this wrong, this many times? "
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in this thread alone.

But it's not just here, and not just this subject.


How do you so often say things with such confidence that are so wrong?

  

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179. "Even though this won't be, this is the last thing that should be said:"
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If you don't mind being a part of some billionaire starting a right-wing movement that is cool with January 6th....


...all that talk that went on here one-up-ing folks on left-wing "stuff" was nothing.


Always thought it was in the first place.

  

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180. "this thread is comedy"
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Great job, would read again

  

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183. "Elon says Apple can support Free Speech by buying ads"
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Free speech = People paying him for Ads.

No ads then you are an enemy of free speech.

Also, if you remove his app because of lack of moderation then you are CENSORING him.


Also:

https://www.theverge.com/2022/11/28/23482387/elon-musk-twitter-apple-threat-withhold-app-store


https://www.wsj.com/articles/elon-musk-attacks-apple-tim-cook-over-advertising-and-censorship-11669662024



Editorial note: Fuck him.

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185. "this dude's such a corny ghoul"
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https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1597183438779342849?t=4QPB4b-ay1kIOGqDKxc-Ag&s=19

  

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186. "Covid misinformation policy"
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Twitter is no longer enforcing its Covid misinformation policy

https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/29/tech/twitter-covid-misinformation-policy/index.html

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Twitter said it will no longer enforce its longstanding Covid misinformation policy, yet another sign of how Elon Musk plans to transform the social media company he bought a month ago.

In 2020, Twitter developed an extensive set of rules that sought to prohibit “harmful misinformation” about the virus and its vaccines.

Between January 2020 and September 2022, Twitter suspended more than 11,000 accounts for breaking Covid misinformation rules and removed almost 100,000 pieces of content that violated those rules, according to statistics published by Twitter. The policy received acclaim from medical professionals: In an advisory to technology platforms, US Surgeon General Dr. Vivek Murthy cited Twitter’s rules as an example of what companies should do to combat misinformation.

Twitter did not appear to formally announce the rule change. Instead, some Twitter users Monday night spotted a note added to the page on Twitter’s website that outlines its Covid policy.

“Effective November 23, 2022, Twitter is no longer enforcing the COVID-19 misleading information policy,” the note read.

Musk has promised to restore many previously banned Twitter accounts as soon as this week. It is possible that among the restored accounts will be some of the 11,000 banned under Twitter’s former Covid misinformation rules.

The Twitter, Tesla and SpaceX CEO tested the limits of Twitter’s previous policy in the early days of the pandemic. In March and April 2020, Musk used the social network to downplay the magnitude of the crisis and express frustration with how the pandemic had been handled. He repeatedly urged the end of the stay-at-home policies, despite public health officials’ insistence at the time that social distancing remained necessary to avoid a wave of infections that could overwhelm hospitals.

On a Tesla earnings call with Wall Street analysts in April 2020, Musk went off script to rail against Covid policies.

“I would call it, ‘forcibly imprisoning people in their homes’ against all their Constitutional rights, in my opinion, and breaking people’s freedoms in ways that are horrible and wrong and not why people came to America or built this country,” Musk said on the call. “It’s an outrage.”

Musk says he has twice had Covid. Despite his skepticism of public health policy, he has said he supports vaccination, even if he doesn’t believe the shots should be mandated. Still, he said in a New York Times podcast interview with technology journalist Kara Swisher in September 2020 that he would not get vaccinated because, “I’m not at risk for Covid, nor are my kids.”

When Swisher confronted Musk with the possibility that many people could die if they didn’t follow public health recommendations, he replied bluntly: “Everybody dies.”


Link to page: https://transparency.twitter.com/en/reports/covid19.html#2021-jul-dec

Effective November 23, 2022, Twitter is no longer enforcing the COVID-19 misleading information policy.

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187. "Fire hydrant of bullshit"
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188. "But what is the goal of picking a fight with Apple?"
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https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1597285572699074560

The direct read is that Musk thinks its a good approach to try and shame advertisers into coming back to his platform. He can't believe that would work does he?

Alternatively, is he trying to go on the offense to keep Apple from delisting twitter from the app store? That doesn't seem like a good strategy either.

You almost have to think he is doing some 3D chess because it is really hard to believe he is this dumb...but it looks like he is that dumb.




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189. "Pre-emptively so when the app is removed he can point to it"
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I have little doubt that Apple AND Google will remove the app from their app stores before the end of the year.

This is how the right "virtue signals."

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190. "Goading them into a legal fight to get insight on their processes and mo..."
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He wants to take up the fight that Epic waged and be more ruthless through it.

Basically if he can find a way to monetize the download and internalize financial processes he can generate revenue without ad dollars

But as long as apple takes a 30% cut he’s limited in how far he can push the app to make him money.

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192. "as a person who has spent too much time thinking about elon musk"
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whenever you think his moves are some 3d chess shit I promise you you're wrong.

I'm not saying he's dumb (although he's not especially intelligent, he's like trump in that he's savvy in a few ways and basically just leans on those 24/7) but he is impulsive as shit, enabled by everyone around him, and occasionally led by the nose by other people.

there are a lot of people who don't like the app store fees, and I'm sure all of them are in elon's DMs telling him to take this fight


but the key thing to remember about elon


is why he owns twitter.

it's because, a. he had / has access to $44 billion to buy a company that's probably worth 1/3 of that.

and b. because even after he spent untold amounts of money and months arguing in court that he shouldn't have to buy twitter for $44 billion, he got his ass kicked in court so hard that he had no choice but to do it.


his successes have come because he's rich (remember how he won that "pedo guy" lawsuit that was completely unwinnable because he definitely defamded the shit out of some random guy? random guy's lawyer is a fucking lunatic Q anoner, that's the only way he got out of that),

he's rich because he failed up.

that's the story there


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193. "if Twitter, the company that never did anything right ever"
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could absolutely dogwalk Elon in court until he had to pay up the 44 billi


what do you think Apple, a company with actually competent leadership, is going to do?


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191. "Deleted mine"
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I want no parts of that bullshit. It’s getting far too weird.

  

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195. "twitter is missing advertising revenue targets by *80*%."
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twitter ad marketplace looking like an nft marketplace.

and 90+% of twitters revenue is from ads lol.

the majority of their top advertisers already stopped their ads within weeks of the musk takeover.

i dont see how twitter avoids bankruptcy. especially with musk just making things increasingly worse with unbanning the type of shit that advertisers dont wanna see their brand next to.

and with twitter intentionally forcefeeding right wing nutjob tweets down the throats of their overwhelmingly young educated liberal user base.
https://twitter.com/HuffPostPol/status/1598843648694796288

  

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196. "All in for trump"
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yep

  

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197. "It seems like it’s getting bad"
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I mean, it was already bad enough before Elon. It seems like a lot more bots, definitely seeing more right wing tweets and the stupid blue check thing is so annoying.

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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198. "More shit - Elon installs Beds so devs don't leave the office"
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https://twitter.com/TedrickG/status/1600234830360240128?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1600272617759731712%7Ctwgr%5Eeffe2028139e808b538e77ff55abdd0c68e2a657%7Ctwcon%5Es2_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cbsnews.com%2Fnews%2Fsan-francisco-building-inspectors-to-investigate-bedrooms-at-twitter-hq%2F

BREAKING: San Francisco building inspectors are launching an investigation into reports Twitter has converted several office rooms at its headquarters into sleeping quarters for employees. 'We need to make sure the building is being used as intended'
@sfdbi
rep tells
@KQEDnews

Elon's response:
So city of SF attacks companies providing beds for tired employees instead of making sure kids are safe from fentanyl. Where are your priorities
@LondonBreed
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199. "Prosecute Facui / Boo'd mercilessly "
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https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/3771048-musk-calls-to-prosecute-fauci-drawing-swift-backlash/

Musk calls to prosecute Fauci, drawing swift backlash
“My pronouns are Prosecute/Fauci,” Musk said on Twitter. He later shared a meme edited to show Fauci telling Biden, “Just one more lockdown, my king.”

So anti-LGTBQ , super ULTRA-MAGA, and fundamentally misunderstands what pronouns are.

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https://gizmodo.com/elon-musk-booed-stadium-crowd-dave-chappelle-sf-boo-1849881192
Elon Musk Gets Viciously Booed by Stadium Crowd at Dave Chappelle Show

Elon Musk, the billionaire who wants nothing more in life than to be adored by legions of fans, was loudly booed by a crowd in San Francisco on Sunday night after he was invited onstage by comedian Dave Chappelle. And the footage is pretty rough, even if you don’t particularly like Musk.

“Ladies and gentlemen, make some noise for the richest man in the world,” Chappelle said near the end of his set at the Chase Center.

The crowd erupted into a mixture of cheers and boos, before the boos clearly won out, according to footage posted on Twitter. The booing got louder as Musk wandered around onstage with a microphone in hand. Musk started pacing and waving, clearly unsure what to do about such a negative reaction.

“Cheers and boos, I see. Elon...” Chappelle said.

“Hey Dave,” Musk responded, prompting another wave of boos from the crowd.

“It sounds like some of the people you fired are in the audience,” Chappelle joked.

“All these people who are booing, and I’m just pointing out the obvious, you have terrible seats,” Chappelle said, apparently trying to save Musk’s dignity by calling the people who are booing poor.

Phones weren’t allowed inside the stadium for the show, but at least one person snuck theirs in and captured the bizarre exchange, posting it to Twitter.

Chappelle tried to salvage the encounter, according to a second video posted to Twitter, joking, “his whole business model is fuck Earth, I’m leaving anyway.”

“What kind of pussy they got up there? That’s what we’ll be doing,” Chappelle said, according to the video.

After Chappelle’s jokes about “titty bars” in space, the crowd seemed to be properly won over and Musk started to speak again.

“Thanks for having me up on stage,” Musk said awkwardly to more boos.

“The first comedy club on Mars....” Chappelle said, as Musk stood by awkwardly just saying “yeah.”

As the laughs for Chappelle’s jokes would get drowned out by boos anytime Musk tried to talk, the comedian said that people could boo all they want, because Musk had given him a jetpack last Christmas.

But every single time Musk began to speak, the crowd started booing again, much to the frustration of Musk.

“Dave, what should I say?” Musk said, clearly desperate and getting embarrassed at the roar of booing.

“Don’t say nothing. It’ll only spoil the moment,” Chappelle said. “Do you hear that sound, Elon? That’s the sound of pending civil unrest. I can’t wait to see what store you decimate next, motherfucker. You shut the fuck up.”

The mood in the stadium definitely changed when Chappelle started to get hostile in defense of Musk.

“I wish everyone in this auditorium peace and the joy of feeling free,” Chappelle said, clearly exhausted that bringing Musk on stage had been such a failure. “And your pursuit of happiness. Amen.”

At that point, Chappelle clearly decided to throw in the towel, thanking the crowd and saying good night, but a third video shows Chris Rock joining the stage along with a few other people.

One of the men onstage is asked by Chappelle to shout the catchphrase from his 2000s sketch show, “I’m rich, bitch,” into the mic. The man dutifully complies, then says, “wait, wait,” while handing the microphone to Musk, clearly wanting him to say the same thing. Musk does, in the most awkward tone you could imagine. The crowd again erupts into boos, only drowned out by someone in the stadium’s sound department honking a horn of some sort.

It’s difficult to tell from the videos precisely what percentage of the crowd was booing during the cringeworthy episode, but some on social media estimated it was the vast majority of people in the 18,000-capacity stadium.

“Was at the Dave Chapelle show at SF tonight and who comes on but Elon Musk! A good 80% of the stadium boos. 18k people. and he withers. Like absolutely turns into a corncob. ‘What should I say??’ He says Dave tries to salvage the situation but to no avail,” James Yu, the founder of Sudowrite, said on Twitter.

“Obv easy to armchair play afterwards, but at least say something. ‘Thanks. Now pay me $8' and mic drop would have gotten a laugh. He did mumble something about being in a simulation, but felt totally off vibe for the crowd,” Yu explained.


Chappelle, CHRIS ROCK, and JOE ROGAN love the dude.


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200. "Yeah that's stupid for Dave to bring that clown out"
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I didn't know Chris Rock was into him, if that's true he is a clown too.


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The Elon thing is garbage but Dave is still good.

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212. "PUT THE DICK DOWN."
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213. "lol coming from you ? Save your Ruckus act for the usual suspects"
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Try to make an attempt to conduct yourself like a Black woman.

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216. "THEN AT LEAST DON'T SWALLOW."
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LOL

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220. "You the pro at that"
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smh at more buffoonery

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229. "you don't have to do this man"
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234. "Do what disagree ?"
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These people are overreacting.

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239. "you don't have to pretend like dude is funny"
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no one gives you anything for that, and all you do is waste your own time


you're the guy pretending eminem makes club bangers. you just don't have to.

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240. "lmao at pretending like Dave is no longer funny"
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now that IS funny

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245. "keep telling yourself that"
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261. "I was fake laughing at his SNL monologue"
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along with everyone in the house that watched as well.

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242. "Nah Dave is good."
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246. ""only the poor people are booing you""
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A1 stuff


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250. "The Elon jokes was not funny, but the SNL monologue was funny"
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The Chris Rock slap joke was funny.

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251. "Yea he still has the same comedic chops he's always had."
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He just sucks overall, and most of the "jokes" he tells in standups, are barely jokes at all.

But often when I hear him just riffing like he has always done (for example, when he was peanut gallery commentary on Kweli's recent visit to Drink Champs) he can still make me laugh. I don't think he'll ever be totally unfunny, it's just that his overall trajectory has turned me off from finding him as laugh out loud hilarious as I once did.

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257. "I'll have to check out a whole set"
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Flattering a billionaire union-buster while pretending to be a brave truth-teller is some kind of look.

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202. "So tone deaf….unless you are a right wing loon"
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More disappointing shit from Chapelle and company.

  

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204. "^ yep. Just the most recent example of an ongoing trend of Chappelle ..."
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... embracing the same type of right wing bullshit that Kanye does.

He's obviously not on Kanye's level (yet), no one is. But he's on that trajectory, trending in that same direction.

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mikediggz
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205. "its so disheartening to think that this might be the case smh"
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i havent quite bought into it but bringing elon out is such a weird move...especially when musk has blatantly made his position known...he def is GOP friendly and without any doubt an agent of chaos. has dave come out as a repug yet? smh

  

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214. "yall tripping.. lol"
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acting like Dave is supposed to hang with backpackers and sh…

oh wait, he used to do that and OKP hated it because most backpackers weren’t into the LBGTQ’s.

Dave is RICH. He is going to hang with rich folk.. and some of them will be conservative
leaning or even assholes to the average person

I still laughed at some of the jokes in the article because they were hilarious.

I find it ridiculous how upset people get at Dave for being friends with Rogan or Jay Z working with the NFL. These folk are at gala’s and parties with the 1%. Yall really expect them to find the .000001% of progressives within the 1%?!

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Brew
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215. "This is brainless."
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Mon Dec-12-22 04:03 PM by Brew

          

>acting like Dave is supposed to hang with backpackers and
>sh…

Who said that ?


>oh wait, he used to do that and OKP hated it because most
>backpackers weren’t into the LBGTQ’s.

This sounds like something that definitely never happened.


>Dave is RICH. He is going to hang with rich folk.. and some of
>them will be conservative
>leaning or even assholes to the average person

There are tons of rich people who are not conservative assholes. A decent person, no matter how much money they have, would seek those people out rather than being drawn to some of the dumbest and most awful people in the country. The people you surround yourself with says a lot about who you are no matter if you're rich poor or otherwise.


>I still laughed at some of the jokes in the article because
>they were hilarious.
>
>I find it ridiculous how upset people get at Dave for being
>friends with Rogan or Jay Z working with the NFL. These folk
>are at gala’s and parties with the 1%. Yall really expect
>them to find the .000001% of progressives within the 1%?!

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221. "Dave is a celeb.. not some doctor or shea butter tycoon"
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white dudes telling Dave who he should and shouldn’t “hang with”
is laughable

and yes, plenty of OKP’s jumped on Dave for still being friends with Talib, Mos, Ye (before the Hitler shit)

thing is.. most these OKP artist that we used to love aren’t these hardcore lefties.

Most dont give a shit about politics and don’t vote. Half the stuff we complained n about is stuff they laugh about because they are in a celeb bubble

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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222. "im actually not mad at anything you said lol. maybe i am trippin!"
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but its difficult to wrap my head around the fact that my fav comedian is on some kanye shit smh...not to say that it couldnt happen, just alil disappointed. im not the biggest ye fan so i was really kinda Eh on that one...but Dave? Dave??????? man. i at least hope he isnt a Hitler fan.

>white dudes telling Dave who he should and shouldn’t
>“hang with”
>is laughable
>
>and yes, plenty of OKP’s jumped on Dave for still being
>friends with Talib, Mos, Ye (before the Hitler shit)
>
>thing is.. most these OKP artist that we used to love aren’t
>these hardcore lefties.
>
>Most dont give a shit about politics and don’t vote. Half
>the stuff we complained n about is stuff they laugh about
>because they are in a celeb bubble
>
>

  

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223. "not feeling the Ye comparisons at all"
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Dave says and does some things that upset lefties. yeah, some of his antics can be seen as callous or petulant. now he brought his tech dork gazillionaire weirdo friend on stage.. yeah it's true Elon is becoming more of a right wing troll by the day. it's not like they just met though.

Kanye rocks a maga hat, said slavery was a choice, hangs out with literal white supremacists, just out-crazied alex jones on his own show, and claims to like hitler..

ye is mentally ill and morally deranged, and while i thought bringing out elon was kinda cringe, there's no real comparison here or anything to indicate this is where dave is headed.

  

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224. "in all honesty i just kinda threw that out there halfway jokingly..."
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but i get what you are sayin maybe that comparison is alil extreme. but really what im getting at is Ye fell down a slippery slope and spiraled outta control and i hope dave doesnt go towards this strange path, to any further degree. todays GOP esp the alt right side seems to have a strange hold on ppl, especially black folks.


>Dave says and does some things that upset lefties. yeah, some
>of his antics can be seen as callous or petulant. now he
>brought his tech dork gazillionaire weirdo friend on stage..
>yeah it's true Elon is becoming more of a right wing troll by
>the day. it's not like they just met though.
>
>Kanye rocks a maga hat, said slavery was a choice, hangs out
>with literal white supremacists, just out-crazied alex jones
>on his own show, and claims to like hitler..
>
>ye is mentally ill and morally deranged, and while i thought
>bringing out elon was kinda cringe, there's no real comparison
>here or anything to indicate this is where dave is headed.
>

  

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225. "smh"
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>todays GOP esp the alt right side seems to have a strange hold
>on ppl, especially black folks.
>


What ?

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227. "whats your question exactly? i witnessed this shit first hand"
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i watched my coworker, a good solid nigga start jokingly playing around with supporting trump over hillary when they were campaigning. before the election it was still half hearted jokes. once trump got elected this nigga gradually became an all in card carrying trump supporter. i watched him start to buy into conspiracy theories, and essentially damn near abandon black ppl all together.

his solution for stopping crime in chicago was to literally drop a bomb on the south side. i said what about the commons and the jhuds and the kanyes? lots of talented folk come out from over there... he said he would try and get a PSA out to the good folk over there and get them to leave, and if not they would be casualties.

dude has backed off of his position some but he still loves trump. it wasnt until he literally almost died from covid that he began to rethink things. trump convinced him not to get vaccinated and the nigga ended up hooked up to a ventilator for 10 days hangin on by a thread. these 'blacks for trump' ppl out here are for real brainwashed with this shit.

elon has (had) alot of admiration for trump. for dave to be hanging with this dude after all this recent twitter shit is concerning and disappointing for me...maybe im trippin like legs say but ionno about that. not sure what else to say about it


  

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232. "Black folk have always been into conspiracies"
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and for good reason. Half them shits that sound crazy ended up being true.

Imagine trying to tell folks the gov been spying on Black leaders, killings some of them, injecting us with STD’s to see what happens, fucking up our water supplies in Black areas, telling us our land aint worth shit until they buy it from us on the low.

and we have white folks and even some Black folks who laugh when we don’t trust vaccines or wonder why so many people of a certain background run certain industries..

and remember, Black folk loved some Trump in the 80’s so I was never on some “how the fuck do some of us like him” because half the rap songs in the 80’s had Trump references.

Had an old coworker say he would vote for Trump before Hillary. Didn’t shock me at all.. he is one of those old heads.. blames shitty negroes for shitty conditions.

and another Black woman at the same gig proudly admitted she has never voted a day in her life. Damn near 65. So I’m never truly shocked when Black folk aren’t all left wing like some of us. Some people just aint that into politics and see it as a scam and in some ways its true

Its a hustle that never ends, every election is the “most important one of our lives”

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238. "yeah im not mad at the skepticism...i wasnt too keen on taking shots eit..."
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i have never taken the flu shot...but the logic just added up for me to take the covid vax. Trump was definitely cool in the 80s...no denying it. but once it was apparent that his position had drastically changed, man was it apparent.

'blames shitty negroes for shitty conditions' is a perfect way to describe my coworker's outlook lol.

> So I’m never truly shocked when Black folk aren’t all left wing
>like some of us. Some people just aint that into politics and
>see it as a scam and in some ways its true

yeah there have always been black repubs but these black trumpers are a difft breed. they have aligned themselves with a demographic that consists of rednecks and hillbillies, neither of who rock with niggas too tuff.

>and for good reason. Half them shits that sound crazy ended
>up being true.
>
>Imagine trying to tell folks the gov been spying on Black
>leaders, killings some of them, injecting us with STD’s to
>see what happens, fucking up our water supplies in Black
>areas, telling us our land aint worth shit until they buy it
>from us on the low.
>
>and we have white folks and even some Black folks who laugh
>when we don’t trust vaccines or wonder why so many people of
>a certain background run certain industries..
>
>and remember, Black folk loved some Trump in the 80’s so I
>was never on some “how the fuck do some of us like him”
>because half the rap songs in the 80’s had Trump references.
>
>
>Had an old coworker say he would vote for Trump before
>Hillary. Didn’t shock me at all.. he is one of those old
>heads.. blames shitty negroes for shitty conditions.
>
> and another Black woman at the same gig proudly admitted she
>has never voted a day in her life. Damn near 65. So I’m
>never truly shocked when Black folk aren’t all left wing
>like some of us. Some people just aint that into politics and
>see it as a scam and in some ways its true
>
>Its a hustle that never ends, every election is the “most
>important one of our lives”
>

  

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233. "My question is what do you mean especially Black folk"
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That's a terrible story but it sounds like he was already half way down the slope. When you thought he was joking about trump, that was probably his way of testing the waters to see how you would react.

If he was serious about the bomb Chicago solution, it means he never had common sense anyway and it's no surprise a conspiracy theories would pull him in that easy.

If it takes near death to back off Trump, his problems are bigger than buying into Trump. How can he still love Trump after all that ? Like I said it's more wrong with him then the Trump thing.

It's always Black folks like that but that does not mean Trump has a tighter grip on them.



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237. "i mean that the black ppl who buy into the trump/alt right ideology "
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seem to be especially dedicated and loyal to it considering that just by design we arent wanted at the picnic to begin with. i used my coworker as an example because i literally watched him devolve into damn near another person over this stuff, and like i said hes a strong solid dude not easily swayed. he voted for obama both times too.

i think like alot of ppl his dislike for hillary prompted him to take a chance on a then unknown trump. but once trump started with his tactics my dude was all in. he wasnt serious about dropping a bomb on Chi but it was a serious indication about how he felt at the time about black ppl. just like ye and candace, at times to hear him talk you wouldnt even think he was black.

hes not the only person who had to catch covid in order to realize it was real though...i saw plenty of them on the news in the ICU being interviewed telling ppl to please go get vaxxed after they got hit.

bro started telling me the benefits of listening to candace and how impressive she was. he invited me to a black repubs meeting. i told him id go just so i could pick the brains of some of these ppl just to try and understand how they think the way they do, but i never ended up going.

but dude isnt an outlier...thats just the way these black trumpers roll. he showed me some videos of some proud black younger ppl who had formed an organization after jumping on the trump train...they were super proud.



>That's a terrible story but it sounds like he was already
>half way down the slope. When you thought he was joking about
>trump, that was probably his way of testing the waters to see
>how you would react.
>
>If he was serious about the bomb Chicago solution, it means he
>never had common sense anyway and it's no surprise a
>conspiracy theories would pull him in that easy.
>
>If it takes near death to back off Trump, his problems are
>bigger than buying into Trump. How can he still love Trump
>after all that ? Like I said it's more wrong with him then the
>Trump thing.
>
>It's always Black folks like that but that does not mean Trump
>has a tighter grip on them.
>
>
>
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244. "Ok I can see that "
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the Black Trump\alt-right is crazy to go that hard for the lunatic cult. if your co-worker was the Black guy who was running with the J6 crowd or if he was an outlier that would be one thing, but how could he be a strong solid dude not easily sway, if he fell for Trump's weak con that easy ? I mean Trump was doing the birther racism before he came down the escalator.



>seem to be especially dedicated and loyal to it considering
>that just by design we arent wanted at the picnic to begin
>with. i used my coworker as an example because i literally
>watched him devolve into damn near another person over this
>stuff, and like i said hes a strong solid dude not easily
>swayed. he voted for obama both times too.


>i think like alot of ppl his dislike for hillary prompted him
>to take a chance on a then unknown trump. but once trump
>started with his tactics my dude was all in. he wasnt serious
>about dropping a bomb on Chi but it was a serious indication
>about how he felt at the time about black ppl. just like ye
>and candace, at times to hear him talk you wouldnt even think
>he was black.
>hes not the only person who had to catch covid in order to
>realize it was real though...i saw plenty of them on the news
>in the ICU being interviewed telling ppl to please go get
>vaxxed after they got hit.
>
>bro started telling me the benefits of listening to candace
>and how impressive she was. he invited me to a black repubs
>meeting. i told him id go just so i could pick the brains of
>some of these ppl just to try and understand how they think
>the way they do, but i never ended up going.
>
>but dude isnt an outlier...thats just the way these black
>trumpers roll. he showed me some videos of some proud black
>younger ppl who had formed an organization after jumping on
>the trump train...they were super proud.
>
>

Candace is just chasing money like most of the Black Trump people. Kanye is gone. All of those cons was easy to spot. It's one thing when young people fall for it but at a certain age experience and common sense should kick in.

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254. "man..."
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>
> how could he be a strong solid dude not
>easily sway, if he fell for Trump's weak con that easy ? I
>mean Trump was doing the birther racism before he came down
>the escalator.

Trust me bro i understand the question. our whole lil circle at work was completely bewildered...made NO sense at all. ppl started to avoid this nigga and ppl love this dude smh. we work in the same immediate area so i would see him on the regular. he and i had a pretty solid relationship but it got to the point where i wouldnt even discuss politics with him because we would end up getting loud. ive never seen anythg like it...bro completely drank the koolaid.

and the thing is, outside of politics dude was still cool af, but it became too much to overlook...for some reason that trump shit connected with him. hes since backed off of it alot and come back to us (kinda) lol. there have been a few thgs to happen that helped him see the err of his logic...of late i think the ye and kyrie debacle somehow helped shake some sense into him.
>
>
>
>>seem to be especially dedicated and loyal to it considering
>>that just by design we arent wanted at the picnic to begin
>>with. i used my coworker as an example because i literally
>>watched him devolve into damn near another person over this
>>stuff, and like i said hes a strong solid dude not easily
>>swayed. he voted for obama both times too.
>
>
>>i think like alot of ppl his dislike for hillary prompted
>him
>>to take a chance on a then unknown trump. but once trump
>>started with his tactics my dude was all in. he wasnt
>serious
>>about dropping a bomb on Chi but it was a serious indication
>>about how he felt at the time about black ppl. just like ye
>>and candace, at times to hear him talk you wouldnt even
>think
>>he was black.
>>hes not the only person who had to catch covid in order to
>>realize it was real though...i saw plenty of them on the
>news
>>in the ICU being interviewed telling ppl to please go get
>>vaxxed after they got hit.
>>
>>bro started telling me the benefits of listening to candace
>>and how impressive she was. he invited me to a black repubs
>>meeting. i told him id go just so i could pick the brains of
>>some of these ppl just to try and understand how they think
>>the way they do, but i never ended up going.
>>
>>but dude isnt an outlier...thats just the way these black
>>trumpers roll. he showed me some videos of some proud black
>>younger ppl who had formed an organization after jumping on
>>the trump train...they were super proud.
>>
>>
>
>Candace is just chasing money like most of the Black Trump
>people. Kanye is gone. All of those cons was easy to spot.
>It's one thing when young people fall for it but at a certain
>age experience and common sense should kick in.
>

  

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264. "That's crazy"
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I've worked with someone who was into the Republicans but it was before the Trump takeover. Reading about someone who did a 180 like your co-worker is wild.

>> how could he be a strong solid dude not
>>easily sway, if he fell for Trump's weak con that easy ? I
>>mean Trump was doing the birther racism before he came down
>>the escalator.
>
>Trust me bro i understand the question. our whole lil circle
>at work was completely bewildered...made NO sense at all. ppl
>started to avoid this nigga and ppl love this dude smh. we
>work in the same immediate area so i would see him on the
>regular. he and i had a pretty solid relationship but it got
>to the point where i wouldnt even discuss politics with him
>because we would end up getting loud. ive never seen anythg
>like it...bro completely drank the koolaid.
>
>and the thing is, outside of politics dude was still cool af,
>but it became too much to overlook...for some reason that
>trump shit connected with him. hes since backed off of it
>alot and come back to us (kinda) lol. there have been a few
>thgs to happen that helped him see the err of his logic...of
>late i think the ye and kyrie debacle somehow helped shake
>some sense into him.
>>
>>
>>

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236. "Once again, there are lots of celebs/rich people ..."
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.. who don't hang out with The Worst People in the World. Being a rich celeb is not a fucking reasonable excuse.


>white dudes telling Dave who he should and shouldn’t
>“hang with”
>is laughable

Who's telling him who to hang out with ? He can hang out with whoever he wants. And I can subsequently call him a loser for always seeming to gravitate toward The Worst People in the World.


>and yes, plenty of OKP’s jumped on Dave for still being
>friends with Talib, Mos, Ye (before the Hitler shit)

What ? When ? Specifically re: Talib and Mos.


>thing is.. most these OKP artist that we used to love aren’t
>these hardcore lefties.
>
>Most dont give a shit about politics and don’t vote. Half
>the stuff we complained n about is stuff they laugh about
>because they are in a celeb bubble

This is just objectively false. Kweli, Common, Thought, et al, are all involved in some way in what would be considered leftist activism. Kweli is always on the ground at protests (whether or not he or any others vote is immaterial to the question of whether or not they are "lefties" or "political," btw). Common has been doing jail reform work on about a million levels for years now, among other things. Etc.

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207. "Dave stuff was unfortunate, the Fauci thing.. what a shitbird"
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He's def worse on twitter than i would have predicted, and that many correctly predicted.

the Dave thing is disappointing but not shocking. i know they're friends and i didn't expect Dave to denounce him, just not bring him on stage. a month ago, maybe but now.. damn lol.
Thing is though, i don't think most people who aren't on twitter like that or very engaged politically see Elon as some right wing troll. they see him as the centrist free speech guy he's pretending to be. just sucks to see Dave add to that fantasy

  

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209. "Chappelle supporting Musk doesn't surprise me."
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Not saying I agree, but I'm not surprised because this isn't the first time he's thrown support at someone with shaky leanings. If memory serves me correct, he supported Andrew Yang when he ran for president. Not that I understand the support, but he's completely allowed to have whatever opinions he wants in that regard.

Bring Musk onstage however is something that surprises me because Chappelle isn't a dullard and he should have been wise enough to almost literally read the room to know that was a bad idea given the stuff Musk has done since he bought twitter. I have to imagine Dave is well aware of the stuff Musk has done.

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210. "LOL @ Dave saying only the poors in the cheap seats booed Mush"
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There's no such thing as a "cheap seat" at the Chase Center for a Chris Rock/Dave Chappelle show.

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211. "There's that but also LOL cuz ..."
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... that comment is a good microcosm of the near-180 Chappelle has done from sort of an everyman comedian (for lack of a better term) whose social commentary was always sharp, to standard rich guy who seemingly punches down at just about any opportunity.

Mans previously turned down $50 million cuz the wrong white people were laughing at his racial jokes, which is something I can fully get behind. Now he's making fun of poor people (even if he's wrong about there being cheap seats @ that venue in the first place) for booing and hating the abhorrent billionaire who's on an ongoing mission to ruin social media to serve the interests of the worst (white) people on the planet.

Chappelle sucks.


>There's no such thing as a "cheap seat" at the Chase Center
>for a Chris Rock/Dave Chappelle show.

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274. "Disappointing "
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“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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256. "Obviously, this is true. But also..."
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It's so incredibly disappointing to hear Dave CONSTANTLY go back to, "You're poor" as an insult. Especially to people who paid to see him! Tickets for his shows are almost never under $100.

I'm not always with the "fuck this dude, he's lost perspective" takes, but a guy who turned down $50 million over his principles stooping to use lack of money as an insult is a real bummer.

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217. "But why? Did Musk have something to say?"
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Did he throw Chappelle a bag to get on stage?
Does Dave has a habit of bringing his friends on stage with a microphone?

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218. "they're friends. he's in town. lets see what happens"
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guess its interesting just as a social experiment

it's funny watching elon blame the boos on 'rabid woke leftists'. its not like someone going to a chappelle show in 2022 is exactly antifa

  

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219. "Hahah my friend said basically the same exact thing this morning."
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>it's funny watching elon blame the boos on 'rabid woke
>leftists'. its not like someone going to a chappelle show in
>2022 is exactly antifa

"If BoTh SiDeS aRe AnGrY yOu'Re DoInG iT rIgHt" or whatever the fuck that nazi said.

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226. "Elon Musk stans, including Chappelle, are so fucking dorky."
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I just can't get over people being "fans" of a billionaire because...why again? He smoked weed on Rogan? He bought Twitter? Who gives a fuck.

That, more than what Musk actually DOES, bothers me more than anything. Why is there hero worship for this fucking dolt?

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228. "I think dave gets off on having this super-rich guy be a cloying fan"
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which is just so fucking sad

it wasn't good enough to be a genius comedian, you need the approval of shitball mcduck

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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230. "Exactly. It’s so corny. Elon isn’t just a troll, he’s "
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rapidly becoming dangerous in terms of amplifying misinformation and assisting in the brainwashing of dimwits on social media. It’s not funny, it’s disheartening.

  

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231. "Musk needs t shirts that don’t accentuate his potato tits"
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That’s my only observation I’ve got to add to everything that’s been said.

  

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235. "LOL"
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249. "RE: Chappelle"
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It's really interesting to me how hesitant some of us are to letting these people go. As it becomes revealed who they are or are becoming... some folks see the writing on the wall. Some think the shit is bad enough that they're done with said folks... and there's then other people keep fighting for those people until and sometimes long after it's revealed how much of a despicable piece of shit they are. The mistamaxx's of the world.

I don't know if Chappelle is beyond redemption yet. But lots of people been done with dude for a while now. And as he continues down this path he's on, I'm interested at what point some of ya'll will finally hop off the train.

I say all this to say: Kill your idols.

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275. "I do think it's hard when they're still putting out quality stuff."
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Do I love ALL the shit Chappelle has done in the last 4ish years? No. But do I think the stuff I DO like is brilliant? Yes. I hate the trans jokes (and how much he goes back to them), but I also paid to see him about a year ago - well after the trans stuff started to become an issue.

I don't have to like a person to enjoy their art - and I think that's very much a personal choice. I don't think it's an issue if someone still wants to listen to Kanye or Chris Brown or Ozzy Osbourne or whoever did some terrible shit. I do find it a hell of a lot harder to enjoy art that reflects that bad stuff like R Kelly, but I can't really get down on someone for enjoying that, either.

I think people's nature is to defend the artist they're a fan of, but we really don't NEED to do that. Being a "fan" of a person seems to be rapidly losing steam as it is. It's weird.

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241. "WaPo: "Crooked Media’s Brian Beutler suggests liberals should"
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internalize the assumption that they are in a full-blown information war with the right, and that Musk is overhauling Twitter to serve the right’s goals in that war. In this telling, Musk hopes to maximize Twitter’s ability to flood the media zone with right-wing propaganda, but without inducing elites to give up on Twitter and thus weaken its “agenda-setting power.”

Countering that would entail treating Musk’s designs on Twitter in a manner akin to how liberals and Democrats treat Fox News. Very few of them bother pretending Fox News is anything more than a propaganda outlet. Similar treatment of Musk’s Twitter could begin to diminish the site’s agenda-setting power, a price Musk might be unwilling to pay."

Link to the Brian Beutler article:
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243. "I hate how these folks flatten the experience of everyone not on the RIG..."
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As liberals.
I can hate Nazis and still not rock with the political left.
But when they flatten everything as Them vs Me (hypothetical me a white male that isn’t a right winger) it ignores that it’s a small amount of thems versus ALL the rest of not thems.
But then assholes cant imagine not being centered and that only lets them imagine limited responses and reactions

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248. "musk directly pinpoints the political left and targets liberals."
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hes singled out that group specifically.

'the woke mind virus', attacking 'progressive' (ex)employees of twitter, amplifying right wing twitter culture warrriors/trolls and their attacks on liberals, etc.

hes clearly declared liberals as his enemy in some mythical battle for the future of civilization (literally his phrasing).

all beutler is saying is the target of musks ire should acknowledge/highlight the threat and fight fire with fire (similar to how liberals approach fox news).

what youre doing is like getting mad at a black person for suggesting how black people need to confront anti-black racism...instead of them enveloping their commentary on the entire big tent of anti-racist coalition members who also arent black.

theres nothing wrong with coming up with a gameplan for the specific group currently under attack.

  

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268. "But all of those words are just coded language for brown folks and queer..."
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And white people that associate with them.
It's not the political left vs the political right
It's the authoritarian right looking to control everyone

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252. "Out of curiousity. How would you identify yourself?"
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267. "Black"
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253. "Historically, this is pretty uncommon"
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>I can hate Nazis and still not rock with the political left.

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260. "huh? I think most people hate Nazi’s on the right and left"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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263. "huh? alt-right symbolism has a ton of allusions to nazis / antisemitism"
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You could do an entire book series on the connections between right-wing influencers and politicians using tactics and echoing ideologies that Nazis were proponents of.

and historically, it's kind of a no-brainer that the left has been the largest opponent of the right
left / labor unions / working people / communism
right / fascism / militarism / nazi-ism

https://jacobin.com/2021/01/italian-communist-party-anti-fascism

  

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271. "All that's cool in mono cultures"
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But the left as you describe has almost never been inclusive in this country

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270. "The representation of the political left is like 92% corporate controlle..."
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They trade off on real human suffering and lives to keep the donor class from going ALL the way in for the right

Shit is gross.

Medical care, housing, and water are human rights
And so is freedom of identity

I don't have to rock with the Democratic Party to vote for them

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272. "OK so you don't like the labels"
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you don't like political umbrellas like 'the left' or 'liberals' but you vote dem out of principle

that's cool. not too controversial

Is there a different affiliation you'd like to be added in articles about being at odds with fascist / nationalist / white supremacist right america?

  

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273. "Im fine with labels. I vote Dem because I’m Black"
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And Rep wants to actively (not passively) facilitate the murder and suppression of my people

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262. "Again, I just don't think Twitter is that important. "
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The concept and idea is, but not twitter. The right tried to remake in Social, Parlor, etc and it didn't work. I don't see how it would make sense to anyone who wanted to make money thinks its a good idea to make twitter more like 4Chan.


I don't think a left version of it would either (if that is what Mastadon is supposed to be).

However, if someone made a twitter clone that was twitter the day before Musk bought it, and promised to pay out creators like youtube, it would flourish and quickly make twitter irrelevant.


Ok, maybe it's not that easy, but my point is that Musk can't degrade Twitter with impunity and people will still use it because it's somehow essential. If he makes it shitty enough, and alternative is out there (again, not that mastadon bullshit), then it will die and be replaced.




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269. "It's been one of the most important social mobilizers in our time"
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Information directly available to and for the people without being filtered directly through corporate interests

And it's global

Completely unparalleled.

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278. "So was myspace, friendster, facebook, etc. It can be replaced. "
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And if Musk speeds up its demise, I am here for it.

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279. "This is reductive to the point that I don’t think you understand Twitt..."
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288. "this is why"
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i deleted the app but kept the profile.

even post-musk: twitter is still exposing me to things that i otherwise wouldn't see, though that might not remain true if he keeps suspending journalists.

i'm probably done when they try to force me to share my data or buy twitter blue.

  

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255. "tesla stock price at a 52 week low. 60+% off its value this year alone."
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their cheapest level ever.

rapidly diving into the $150s from over $400 a year ago.

even as the market has been gaining as a whole.

look at this stock performance today on the inflation news lol.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fj3kuKWWQAMrcPj?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

and musky is no longer the worlds richest man.
https://twitter.com/AdamParkhomenko/status/1602350630588358656

dude decided to torch his own flagship business and overpay for an underperforming passion project just to wage some petty online culture war against his top customer demographic.

  

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258. "Teslas are also getting ever more expensive - might be that alone"
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I have a feeling that over the next 10 years Tesla will be much less attractive because of the incoming competition.

Maybe the Inflation Reduction Act's tax credits will help, but people are going to buy Toyota and Hondas and Chevy's more and more. They don't go 0-60 in under 5 seconds, but they cost a lot less.

Example: The model 3 retails in the HIGH 40s now, was theoretically in the mid 30s before. And it averages more like mid 50s. (BMW and Volvo are much cheaper.)

The Y's are in the mid to high 60s and then others are over 100k.

With all the talk (before the election) about CRUSHING INFLATION and the upcoming DEMOCRAT DEPRESSION it's not surprising that people aren't spending $50k+ on a car right now.

Maybe: Add that the owner is a right wing loon who CONTSTANTLY SHOUTS about culture wars - you pick up some new buyers but probably more net buyers. But Teslas are going to be more and more niche.




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259. "both gm and ford are projected to pass tesla in market share by 2025."
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https://twitter.com/Automotive_News/status/1542590183500984320

for the exact reasons you mentioned. plus they have the capacity to scale and also develop new products/variations that tesla doesnt.

plus an unstated factor...brand loyalty. theres a ton more loyal/generational ford/gm drivers that will simply transition to an ev version of whatever they like to drive now (or some similar ev model).


  

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265. "138 million shares trading today "
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Tesla employees are about to enter a 1.5 month trading blackout

Almost to a tee for the last year everytime we approach one he floods the market with shares and does the required paper work filing by the time it’s too late to adjust yo conditions .

Aside from all of the other reasons that are possible this is another one.

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266. "150 million is the trading volume now. Average is 80 something million "
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Flood of Space X shares being sold today and yesterday also

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284. "He sold 3.6 billion dollars worth of shares this week. So far. "
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We enter a blackout tomorrow and the shares dropped by $50 in a week. https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/elon-musk-sells-another-22-million-tesla-shares-for-2436-billion/

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280. "It's interesting to see all the Tesla build Teardown videos. "
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There are tons of videos like this.

https://twitter.com/tushneem/status/1470802087160209408


or this video of a dog eating a tesla.

https://twitter.com/ShayTheAries/status/1601230312104546304

I think Tesla had so much good will because people wanted EV cars so bad. If it was the best EV car and people wanted folks to convert to EV, they wouldn't spend a lot of time bashing them (and would come off as pro-gas if they did).

Now that Musk is a known Ahole and a lot more EVs are hitting the market, it feels like the truth of how shitty these cars are is coming out.


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281. "Eh. Yes and no. He built a great car to get money to build two expensive..."
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To get money to mass produce more cars
The quality has gotten worse because the focus has been on quantity
All to say the cars weren’t always bad and didn’t get worse on accident
Quality is a choice
The reasons people overlook quality are vast
And not just EV desire.

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282. "He misunderstand the movie "Gung ho""
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_gLOUbQZgk&t=2s

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283. "Worse. He thinks like a computer scientist and real world qualitative va..."
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Dont have any resonance with him.

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276. "Musk employs "cost cutting" moves by not paying rent for their offices....."
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...as well as not paying vendors, refusing to pay for the $200,000 for the jets the chartered during the takeover week. Plus, their firing more of their legal team. Oh, and they're exploring "the consequences of denying severance payments to thousands of people who have been laid off since the takeover." Good thing you don't need lawyers for any of this stuff.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/13/technology/elon-musk-twitter-shakeup.html

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277. "Worked for Trump"
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285. "Elon Musk's Twitter suspends several journalists' accounts without notic..."
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https://www.axios.com/2022/12/16/elon-musk-twitter-free-speech-journalists-suspended

A series of Twitter accounts belonging to journalists who cover Elon Musk and Twitter were suspended without notice on Thursday.

Why it matters: Musk has vowed to make Twitter a haven for "healthy, functioning free speech." He tweeted in April, "I hope that even my worst critics remain on Twitter, because that is what free speech means."

Many of these reporters' last tweets or stories focused on Musk and Twitter.

In response to a tweet about the suspensions, Musk indicated that the accounts violated Twitter's doxxing policy, which he revealed Wednesday after suspending an account that actively tracked his private jet.

Several of the suspended journalists' accounts had allegedly tweeted links to the jet tracker. "Same doxxing rules apply to 'journalists' as to everyone else," Musk tweeted.

"Accounts engaged in doxxing receive a temporary 7 day suspension," he said.

  

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286. "Musk Disables Twitter Spaces After Clash With Journalists"
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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-12-16/musk-disables-twitter-spaces-after-clash-with-journalists

Twitter Inc.’s live audio service, Twitter Spaces, is down after a number of journalists that had just been suspended from the social network found they could still participate on it.

Twitter owner Elon Musk said late Thursday night that the company was fixing an old bug and the audio service “should be working tomorrow.” Earlier in the evening, Musk’s network threw reporters from CNN, the Washington Post and the New York Times, among others, into a seven-day suspension for allegedly disclosing the location of his private jet.

  

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287. "To be honest, I find this sort of reporting to be misleading clickbait"
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Like the article title is very different from the substance of the story. And yet, twitter lives for these stories.


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289. "what's misleading about the title?"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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291. "whats wrong with the title?"
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clue me in.

  

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290. "ya mans is out here begging for a reply from B*ri"
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you almost hate to see it

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292. "elon has been so over the top even b*ri gotta save face."
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https://twitter.com/bariweiss/status/1603788344470556674

  

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293. "oh shit i just saw what you were referring to."
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pathetic.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FkIJtAMXEBsmocw?format=png&name=900x900

  

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326. "I almost felt bad for dude, it was some sad shit."
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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294. "$tsla really headed into the $140s soon."
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dude is on twitter blaming fed rate hikes lol.

  

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295. "musk seeking new twitters investors at original sale stock price."
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https://twitter.com/business/status/1603875247781994499

if it wasnt worth that price then...it damn sure aint now.

the consensus valuation for twitter at the time of the sale was like $8-12 billion and musk paid $44 billion.

with advertisers fleeing (advertising made up 90+% of the revenue)...i cant even imagine what the valuation would be now.

  

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296. "fyi: twitter projected to lose 30+ million users over the next 2 years."
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https://twitter.com/kbeninato/status/1602812291912704002

massive shedding.

also probably underestimating things at this point.

musk is like kanye in that you cant accurately account for their ability to make things even worse.

  

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297. "Is that really bad for Twitter??"
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I mean the people who stay will put up with *a lot more crap* . That'll leave around 190 million users - there's a lot you can monetize there.

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298. "twitter operated at a loss even when they had blue chip advertisers."
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and its only gotten worse since the takeover.

the 1st week of the world cup...they were missing their internal ad revenue target by about 80%!

now imagine what its gonna be like with 30 million less users.

and yes that number is massive!

when facebook lost users for the 1st time in its history...the number was around 500k. and facebook has almost 3 billion monthly active users.

  

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299. "He can afford to operate at a significant loss for eternity"
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He is fucking bananas wealthy and the other insane wealthy "libertarian" billionaires will chip in.

He owns *THE* social media platform that decides what news is for a large fraction of journalists.

I don't see this as a business anymore - this is a lobbying machine.

Twitter's services will shrink, it will become more radicalized and it will be funded by smaller advertisers and dark money.

I think the idea of Twitter going back to what it was is not the right idea anymore - it's purpose now simply to influence what people are talking about - and if it loses 200 million a year, or a billion a year that's probably worth the cost to the insane ideolog that Musk and his friends are.

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300. "he borrowed a shit ton of money just to buy the thing."
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and hes already looking for another big round of funding like 2 months after he took ownership.

plus everthing he does at twitter is affecting the stock price (and the overwhelming bulk of his net worth) at tesla.

how long do you think he (or tesla board/investors) are willing to put up with the way hes been running twitter and taking teslas value?

  

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323. "can and wants to are different things, and he has risks"
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his money isn't liquid.

and while he is rich, he can't sell off tesla stock forever

if he sells too much, he could lose control of the company.

and he's paying crazy interest on the loans because he didn't want to put his tesla stock up as collateral



dude is not invincible and he knows that.

this isn't a master plan


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301. "% change in value of top carmakers over the last three months:"
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https://twitter.com/NickKnudsenUS/status/1604557182275825664

  

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302. "Twitter abruptly bans all links to Instagram, Mastodon, and other compet..."
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https://www.theverge.com/2022/12/18/23515221/twitter-bans-links-instagram-mastodon-competitors

https://help.twitter.com/en/rules-and-policies/social-platforms-policy

  

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303. "not just links but mentions of the platforms with usernames too."
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do you know how many people have 'instagram: userxxxx' in their bio?

dude really is like kanye west.

once dude gets incited/polarized by a major event...he acts with maximum chaos/instability and just multiplies the amount of damage he does to himself.

twitter is gonna be tumblr soon.

  

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307. "REVERSED"
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https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/19/tech/twitter-elon-musk-deletes-policy/index.html

Washington
CNN

Twitter deleted its controversial new policy on Sunday evening that had banned links to certain other social media platforms, less than 24 hours after the policy’s initial introduction.

The development comes shortly after company owner Elon Musk launched a Twitter poll asking users whether he should step down as head of the platform. That poll is set to conclude early Monday morning.

Following an immense backlash against the policy, Twitter removed the blog post that had outlined which rival sites users would be prohibited from tweeting links to, including Facebook, Instagram, Mastodon and Truth Social.

It also deleted a tweet thread from its @TwitterSupport account that had announced the policy earlier in the day.

Another company Twitter account, @TwitterSafety, is now running a poll asking users whether the platform should “have a policy preventing the creation of or use of existing accounts for the main purpose of advertising other social media platforms.” That poll is set to conclude Monday at 9 pm Eastern time.

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309. "didn't want the E.U. to get in his ass and fine the fuck outta them"
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What a mess smh

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310. "crazy"
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312. "dude's just making it up as he goes lol"
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337. "he really has no plan, he just. does. stuff."
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304. "return of the king?"
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FkVLhBQXwAMajNp?format=jpg&name=medium

  

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305. "LOL"
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306. "lulz"
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308. "Elon posts poll asking if he should step down. Reult:58% say yes"
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What a fucking joke this guy is.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1604617643973124097

Polls on a site that the owner says is overrun by fake bots.

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311. "Does he run Tesla like this?"
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Pushing half baked ideas into live action?
It should be very rare for major things to get recalled/reversed because there should be deep thought, care, and planning put into it.
But it seems like it happens every other week since he's been in charge.

It makes me never want to even think of buying a Tesla. Who knows what kind of off the cuff things they push into the software while you're on the road.

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313. "I can't speak to the quality on Tesla with 100% certainty"
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but I think the one big difference between running a car company and running twitter is that the changes Elon makes results in instantaneous results for better or for worse due to the nature of how twitter operates. I have to think the decisions involved in creating cars or the rockets he's involved with in space travel don't result in immediate results that occur in less than 24 hours. I'm assuming there research and development that has to occur before the hardware is produced with Tesla or his space travel ventures.

I'm not sure Elon was prepared to how sudden and immediate of all his twitter decisions would occur.

It probably also hurts that Elon appears to be making a grip of these twitter changes all on his own where twitter came up with decisions in groups settings. In that end, I'm hoping and assuming Tesla wasn't run in isolation like Elon is running twitter. I'm assuming that's the case since he seemingly has devotion all of his attention to twitter since he purchased it.

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316. "."
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317. "Just to be clear, I'm not an Elon Musk fan or apologist"
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**edit**

Meat, Why'd you edit out your response? If what you're saying is accurate, there's no need to delete what you said.

The more discourse, the merrier.

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318. "I think ppl don't fully appreciate the degree to which he "norm" busts"
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That's probably the best way to put it
Man makes laws, man isn't smart as I am, show me why this law needs to apply to me
Most of us have gotten a speeding ticket, 5-10-15 mph over the speed limit
We pay the fine and move on
After a certain mph the fine goes up, they may take away your car too
But with if you had a bottomless supply of cars
What if there was no functional difference in penalty for going 5 or 100 over the speed limit
Most of us would still stick to pretty close to that 5-10-15 mph zone because anything more is just reckless
And then some people, a certain few will say I'm going to shoot for 100

Now apply that same mentality to rules and laws. Whether it's security and safety, civil engineering and permitting, disease control, fire safety, ai, public roads ... what if not only did a person not believe that the laws should apply to them, but disagreed that the laws should exist, AND could afford any penalty incurred from breaking that law ... what would constrain that person?

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320. "Im being far too casual with my comments. "
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322. "What could possibly go wrong????"
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Right now ALL the other CEOs of a "certain type" are cheering and hoping that Elon succeeds and they can apply the "whippings will continue until morale improves" management style at their companies.

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314. "The saga of the "Full Self-Driving" feature seems to be a parallel."
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Elon talks out of his ass while his engineers know they're far from really being able to do what he promises. Then safety regulators step in and slow things down, as they should. Then the Elon true believers blame the regulators for slowing things down that Elon supposedly could have accomplished.

The difference is that regulation for social media is so much thinner than for cars that the whole thing just moves forward until Elon finds out the hard way how dumb he was at the start.

  

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319. "And to add on that even the slow down isn't enough to make better"
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He just changes the language to be too cute by half

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321. "same thing with the boring company tunnel systems."
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dude pitched these cartoonish prototypes to cities...got a ton of vc funding and serious interest from cities/states...then just stopped caring once it was time to factor in the actual infrastructure/regulation/permitting obstacles.

  

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334. "I thought about trying the tunnel in Vegas from the convention center"
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but I’m claustrophobic and didn’t see the point of taking a tunnel in a car when I can take the monorail back to the strip.

a big ass tunnel that uses Tesla cars to drive you slowly from point A to B didnt seem appealing at all.

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325. "with cars, even elon can only be so dumb"
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the guardrails aren't working as much as they should be, but they at least exist.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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315. "Yes."
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324. "to an extent. but he doesn't do everything at tesla"
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same with spacex, which he doesn't directly run, shotwell does.

but he makes ridiculous requests, and promises, and radical changes to product development

but there he has a team of smart people to make it all at least kind of work.

because for the last number of years the stock price has gone up so much that he can afford to pay in stock options, and bring in new people to replace everyone who is burned out and leaves.


this situation isn't the same at twitter

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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348. "RE: Does he run Tesla like this?"
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There's an NHTSA investigation and multiple DOJ investigations into Tesla.

There's some weird financials, too. Like pretty much flat operating expenses for the past 5 years yet there was 50+% unit growth reported over that time span like the fraud Luckin Coffee.

  

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327. "$tsla approaching the $130s."
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https://twitter.com/ColMorrisDavis/status/1605237686964551680

tesla board just sitting back and watching the carnage unfold.

  

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Reeq
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329. "$130s it is."
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https://twitter.com/briantylercohen/status/1605305426081611776

  

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328. "This is like a Kanye-esque fumbling of the bag"
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Like you have it made, all you have to do is shut the fuck up. But they can't help themselves. Though at least Kanye is mentally ill, Elon just seems like a dipshit. Here's the attention you ordered, bon appetite!

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330. "So yeah my feed has gotten a LOT more right wing. "
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To be fair, there is a lot more of everything being suggested to my feed. More hip-hop, more humorous tweets, etc. But there is usually an indicator why I am getting these tweets.

Now I got a lot of random right wingers talking about the twitter papers or how terrible the omnibus bill is when I really gave them no indication I was interested in what Rand Paul has to say. Also don't have the ability to say Iono like it.


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332. "it's so annoying"
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i have a twitter account i created *just* for use while at work.

i follow policy planners/scientists/analysts for housing, food insecurity, healthcare and a whole lotta of data viz/data wrangling folk. i also generally use it to follow interesting people i meet at conferences - just generally trying to keep a pulse on what's relevant.

i use it *only* for work and i don't have a single tweet.

i log in and i'm getting suggestions for right wing stuff and it's incredibly stupid.

it's trying to drive engagement via rage, but i'm not here for that.

on my personal account - i just make liberal use of the block button because i'm not trying to see that in my down time.

  

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333. "As suggested above, try changing your feed to Latest Tweets."
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If you haven't already.


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335. "Get suggested tweets and Trending Topics by"
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following the instructions in this tweet:

https://twitter.com/StillNotSam/status/1490169409024892928?s=20&t=oIge6gzxLwqI4x6yjbwqAA

or by copy/pasting this into your muted words (set to Forever)

suggest_recycled_inline_tweet
suggest_activity_tweet
suggest_who_to_follow
suggest_recap
suggest_recycled_tweet
suggest_pyle_tweet
suggest_ranked_timeline tweet

The right-wing shit in your feed sounds like your feed is on Home instead of Latest Tweets. I never get served that shit when feed is on Latest Tweets

Also anyone who wants to get rid Trending Topics I used uBlock Origin and followed instructions here.

https://www.makeuseof.com/how-to-hide-trending-twitter-topics/

https://www.makeuseof.com/how-to-hide-trending-twitter-topics/

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336. "go in the settings and clear out the topics it thinks you're interested ..."
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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338. "The above suggestions will work - for now...."
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Create a new account and... Be stupefied by what Twitter is pushing now.

The owner enjoys it, the right has been gaming the system with bots and dedicated shit posters, and it's going to continue moving in that direction forever - or until someone who isn't Elon is in control of those decisions.

So get used to it - more and more will be creeping into your timeline no matter how many hacks you do, or how many times you switch your preferences.

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331. "Mental illness needs to be time's man of the year"
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And internet addiction.

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Reeq
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339. "$120s."
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sheesh when is the bleeding gonna stop?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FkmAiPFXwAMchNA?format=jpg&name=large

  

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340. "tesla started the year with a $1.24T market cap. now under $400M."
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https://twitter.com/ColMorrisDavis/status/1605974307938504704

dude spending $44B to light *two* companies on fire is gonna be one of the great economic cautionary tales for the rest of history.

  

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341. "smh..."
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342. "400 billion, right?"
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Ford is $44 billion.

Toyota is $221 billion.

Tesla, seems to me, to be incredibly over valued still.

I know a guy who has a *TON* of investment in Tesla, I think was up HIGE before and may be dipping into losses now. He still thinks it's going to rebound and be higher than it was ever before.



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343. "It being so overvalued is a huge part of the story imo"
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Even with it being increasingly evident that EVs are going to be an important transportation option in the future, Tesla was never ever ever worth what it was valued at.

Elon has been a snake oil salesmen from the beginning, and the media and related industries just ate all his bullshit up. He got pass after pass for very egregious lies with no serious pushback, yet still he was treated like the chosen golden boy.

I don't even know how we can avoid this happening again in the future, but we gotta stop treating rich white men like the second coming of Jesus because they have some success in their chosen industries. Elon is a charlatan and seemingly in the pocket of Putin, but the next fraud won't be so blaringly obvious in their lies.

(also never trust a white male south african billionaire no matter what the circumstances - fuck musk, thiel, and sacks 4ever)

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345. "that last line is everything"
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when someone called him a South Afrikan American I fell the fuck out.

seriously tho, no one should trust any white south african.

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346. "Yep. PE Ratio is 42.51. Still overvalued."
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352. "the market's about to correct for these new EV comps."
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Rivian is down too. Way down.Only a matter of time before the real auto companies showed up.

but yes, Musk is fucking up both his brands.


https://www.fool.com/investing/2022/12/27/if-invested-rivian-automotive-2021-how-much-today/?source=eptyholnk0000202


Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

  

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344. "This makes me so fucking unreasonably happy."
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347. "Like incredibly. "
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349. "Twitter Restores Suicide Prevention Hotline Link"
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Twitter Restores Suicide Prevention Hotline Link After Disappearance Sparks Backlash
Elon Musk called the report of the removal "fake news," even though one of his executives confirmed the suicide hotline link had been suspended.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/suicide-hotline-twitter-help-feature-returns-elon-musk_n_63a90073e4b0cbfd55dc89e5

TLDR; Twitter stops displaying the suicide prevention hotline message when it thought someone may have been contemplating self harm.


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https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1606627557021212672?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1606627557021212672%7Ctwgr%5E6821d259d4d1298744a668d1a7e19380b00fc3a5%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.huffpost.com%2Fentry%2Fsuicide-hotline-twitter-help-feature-returns-elon-musk_n_63a90073e4b0cbfd55dc89e5

1. The message is actually still up. This is fake news.
2. Twitter doesn’t prevent suicide.
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But Twitter’s head of trust and safety, Ella Irwin, confirmed the removal of the safety feature to Reuters — though said it was temporary.

“We have been fixing and revamping our prompts,” Irwin reportedly noted in an email to Reuters. “They were just temporarily removed while we do that.”

Unlike Musk, Irwin said of the prompts: “We know they are useful.”





But it really shows Elon's values.



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350. "I just deactivated my account."
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I only got it a few months ago because I thought it could be helpful for my job, but it's like the site's only objective was to pull me into culture wars bullshit. Couple days ago, I went into my settings to see if I could curate my timeline a little better, saw I had to individually uncheck a list of dozens of topics I had no interest in at all, and figured it's not worth the hassle of fighting the system just to get some interesting bits of info here and there.

I hope it crashes and burns, but it's probably going to wreak havoc on public discourse for a long time to come.

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351. "$tsla now down 70+% on the year. prolly be close to $100 by years end."
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https://twitter.com/ColMorrisDavis/status/1607750027056762880

dude shows no signs of letting up any time soon either lol.

  

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Reeq
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353. "now under $110. that shit might hit $100 *tomorrow*."
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FlA0q_9X0AEKWjc?format=jpg&name=large

  

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354. "do you think he is purposely driving down"
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stock price to buy it out and take it private?

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355. "Can he do that, money wise?"
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>stock price to buy it out and take it private?
I mean as the price goes down doesn't his net worth go down too? So if he's worth less how can he buy it?

Tesla's still worth over 50% more than he's worth.

And wouldn't he have to get an agreement from the board to do it - and if they suspected he's destroying their value wouldn't they stop him because they are losing money?

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Reeq
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356. "yeah the overwhelming bulk of his net worth is from tesla stocks."
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as the value of those go down...so does his net worth.

plus dude had to borrow money to buy twitter and back the loans with tesla stock.

as the tesla stock price declines and makes those loans riskier...it opens those lenders/him up to greater exposure as well (margin calls, etc).

  

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357. "its funny that musk unveiled the cashtag feature on twitter recently"
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to track stocks.

just so people can watch $tsla tank and increase engagement with the tag that keeps it trending almost every day.

https://twitter.com/search?q=%24TSLA&src=cashtag_click

  

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359. "Every major blue chip tech/manufacturing stock is down big"
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Meta down 66% YTD
Alphabet down 41% YTD
Apple down 31% YTD
Dell down 32% YTD
GM down 47% YTD
Microsoft down 30% YTD
Nike down 30% YTD

Basically Only stocks up are companies tied up in the Ukraine conflict
(Lockheed up 37% YTD , Raytheon up 14% YTD, General Dynamics up 19% YTD)

The deliberate lack of context astounds me.

  

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358. "If you quit, maybe try Mastodon?"
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Unlike Twitter Mastodon servers are run by different people and originations, there's not just one.
Think of it like email - you have to get an address - a Gmail address or an Outlook address or an address on another email server. But once you have an email address everyone can send you email and you can send everyone else email.
There are lists of Mastodon servers available from https://joinmastodon.org/servers.


Steps to establish a Mastodon account:
1)Create an account on a Mastodon server. I used https://mstdn.social/ for mine. You'll get a Mastodon address like @georgetakei@universeodon.com, which is your account name + the server name. It looks a lot like an email address but with a "@" at the front.

2)Once you create the account set up your profile by following the instructions on the server, or on your phone/tablet client.

3)You can post now. Everyone on your server or with your address can see you post unless you restricted your profile in some way.

4)Share you address with your friends. Ask for their accounts too.

5)You probably need to find people to follow. Since people have accounts on different servers you won't see everyone with a search on your server - you'll probably have to enter their Mastodon handle into your client - just like you have to enter someone's email address into your mail program.

More tips:
There are tools that will search your Twitter lists and import people who are also on Mastodon into your follow list. Example tool: https://twitodon.com/
Here's an okay article on it: https://www.diversetechgeek.com/how-find-mastodon-users-recommended-accounts-follow/


If you get fed up with your Mastodon server for some reason - like you don't trust them (like with email, or Twitter, the sysadmins have access to a lot of your data) or another reason you can change to another server and there are tools that let you import all of your data and automatically update the people following you with your new address.

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360. "Musk got a margin call"
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https://twitter.com/bestofdyingtwit/status/1608500242894442497?t=rYbIG-FeTdjiQOwfhYnP7A&s=19

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361. "Musk says Tesla will be most valuable company on earth soon"
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He's a super genius, remember?

Musk says the U.S. is headed for a ‘stormy’ recession—but Tesla will shrug off ‘stock market craziness’ and become the ‘most valuable company on Earth’
https://fortune.com/2022/12/29/elon-musk-recession-tesla-stock-outlook-most-valuable-company-on-earth/

A recession, stagflation, “a variant of another Great Depression”: The forecasts for the U.S. economy this year haven’t exactly been rosy—and Elon Musk has been a leading voice sounding the alarm.

“It does seem like we’re headed into a recession here in 2023,” Musk said during an episode of the “All-In Podcast” released last week. “My best guess is that we have stormy times for a year to a year-and-a-half.” But while Musk believes a recession is on the way, he still has faith that Tesla will survive and come out on the other side stronger than ever—or at least that’s what he’s telling his staff.

“Long-term, I believe very much that Tesla will be the most valuable company on Earth!” the billionaire CEO wrote in an email to Tesla employees on Wednesday, Reuters reported, amidst a month that saw the electric vehicle maker head towards its worst year ever in the markets.

Tesla shares soared roughly 8% on Thursday, putting in another strong performance after snapping a seven-session losing streak on Wednesday. But the stock is still down nearly 70% this year, and some analysts have warned that demand issues, rising interest rates, and increasing competition in the EV market could lead to even more problems next year.

Even Wedbush’s tech analyst Dan Ives, a well-known Tesla bull, slashed his lofty price target for the company last week from $250 to $175, citing demand issues.

“The reality is that after a Cinderella story demand environment since 2018 Tesla is facing some serious macro and company specific EV competitive headwinds into 2023 that are starting to emerge both in the US and China,” he wrote. “Tesla is cutting prices and inventory is starting to build globally in face of a likely global recession.”

Tesla recently paused production at its Shanghai plant and implemented discounts on vehicles in the U.S. and China. And the stock has dropped over 30% this month alone amid Musk’s $44 billion Twitter purchase.

Ives said that investors are worried that Musk is “asleep at the wheel from a leadership perspective” because he is too focused on Twitter. But Musk told his staff this week not to be “too bothered by stock market craziness” or analysts’ forecasts.

“As we demonstrate continued excellent performance, the market will recognize that,” he wrote, instead urging employees to focus on ramping up deliveries at the end of this quarter. “Please go all out for the next few days and volunteer to help deliver if at all possible. It will make a real difference!”

And the company’s faithful following of retail investors continues to back Musk. Net purchases of Tesla stock in the fourth quarter—and in December—hit record highs, data from Vanda Research shows.

But at the same time, Musk told investors to prepare for a downturn and avoid placing too many risky bets in the stock market during these trying times.

“Hope for the best, prepare for the worst,” he said on the “All-In Podcast.” “Don’t get too adventurous. From a cash standpoint, keep powder dry.”

Musk also offered a tip for navigating turbulent markets: avoid margin loans (debt used to buy stocks).

It’s an interesting piece of advice, because Musk knows a bit about margin loans himself, having used a $12.5 billion margin lending facility to purchase Twitter, saddling the company with $1.2 billion in interest payments over the next 12 months alone. The billionaire, who recently lost the title of world’s richest man amid Tesla’s decline, has used margin loans for years, with so much of his wealth tied to his firms’ performance in the equity markets.

Musk has been forced to sell billions of dollars of Tesla stock to fund his Twitter purchase and margin lending debt. He’s recommending retail investors take a more conservative approach.

“I really advise people to not have margin debt in a volatile stock market,” he warned last week. “If there’s mass panic in the stock market, then you’ve got to really be careful about margin debt.”

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362. "twitter revenue down 40% year over year."
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https://twitter.com/Evan_Rosenfeld/status/1615531829074747392

2021 was the 1st year twitter ever turned a profit. so it *was* headed in the right direction before all of the chaos.

advertising made up 90% of twitter revenue)...and advertisers are continuing to flee. especially the big brands with the largest ad commitments.



  

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363. "Drastic, but head count is massively down..."
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So curious to know if that's been able to cushion the blow

  

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364. "How much money did they save by laying off 4000 people"
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What the average Twitter salary for the positions?

Let's say the average salary was $220,000, so that's $880,0000 "saved."

Heck let's say average salary was $500,000, that would be 2 billion saved a year.

I don't know the average salary, but if they started with 7,500 employees at $220,000 average.

2021: Revenue: $5 billion
2021: Salaries for 7,500 employees $220,000 per: $1.65 billion
That leaves:$3.35 billion of revenue not for salaries.

2021 Loss: $500 million
So other bills were:$3.85 billion


2022/2023: Revenue 60% of 2021:3 billion
2022/2023: Salaries at $220,000 per: $715 million
That leaves $2.285 billion of revenue not for salaries.
So if other bills stayed the same:$3.85 billion

2022/2023 Loss would be: $1.565 billion loss

So he cut costs and will still over around 3x the money, assuming average salary is $220,000. If everyone made $500,000 it'd still be 2x the loss.




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365. "auctioning off assets from its San Francisco headquarters"
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https://www.theverge.com/2023/1/18/23560375/twitter-auction-company-assets-headquarters-bird-statue-coffee-machines

The company is selling espresso machines, designer chairs, and bike-powered recharging stations after falling behind on office rent payments.

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366. "Get this. I just figured out my timeline was "For You" v. "Following""
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For you was the recommended stuff and was a ton of clickbait. Following was only tweets from the people I actively follow. Did not know that they had changed it, but notice my timeline was shittier.

I am guessing yall already knew this, but I just figured out the difference on my desktop, still haven't figured out how to fix it on my phone.


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367. "the tab is new I believe. I kinda like it better"
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but it seems to be the same as home/latest

Lotta times I'd forget I was on home and wonder if I'm following Greg Abbott. Tab seems like a cleaner switch





  

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368. "but the catch with the tab is that it reverts to "for you""
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every time you open the app/site

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We would have been better off with an okaycivics board instead of an okayactivist board

  

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369. "had to test this"
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confirmed.

Also confirmed during this test is that Jordan Peterson will NOT take another booster. If it's not a 100% meat diet or benzos, he's putting that poison in his body

  

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370. "elon claims it will stop doing that soon"
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https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1616594332907372544

"Next Twitter update will remember whether you were on For You (ie recommended), Following or list you made & stop switching you back to recommended tweets"

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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371. "the algorithm is pretty dogshit"
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it focused on tweets from one person who I don't interact with

if you want to see the popular tweets on your timeline, and popular tweets from people you follow, it works.

but also, you're going to miss like, tweets about the game you're watching right now, etc.



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372. "yea, i initially thought it was the same thing converted to tab"
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but following doesn't give me the latest tweets, so, yeah.. not into it.

  

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373. "finally set up my Post account and I am not really feeling it"
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I've hated Elon almost since the beginning (if you went to a white private school then you know exactly what type of person he is), but the Twitter alternatives are not doing it for me.

I really really want to stop using Twitter, but it's so easy to find people to follow relevant to my interests (mainly politics) and the replacements just don't stack up yet. ☹️

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374. "Elon Musk fires a top Twitter engineer over his declining view count"
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https://www.platformer.news/p/elon-musk-fires-a-top-twitter-engineer?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

On Tuesday, Musk gathered a group of engineers and advisors into a room at Twitter’s headquarters looking for answers. Why are his engagement numbers tanking?

“This is ridiculous,” he said, according to multiple sources with direct knowledge of the meeting. “I have more than 100 million followers, and I’m only getting tens of thousands of impressions.”

One of the company’s two remaining principal engineers offered a possible explanation for Musk’s declining reach: just under a year after the Tesla CEO made his surprise offer to buy Twitter for $44 billion, public interest in his antics is waning.

Employees showed Musk internal data regarding engagement with his account, along with a Google Trends chart. Last April, they told him, Musk was at “peak” popularity in search rankings, indicated by a score of “100.” Today, he’s at a score of nine. Engineers had previously investigated whether Musk’s reach had somehow been artificially restricted, but found no evidence that the algorithm was biased against him.

Musk did not take the news well.

“You’re fired, you’re fired,” Musk told the engineer. (Platformer is withholding the engineer’s name in light of the harassment Musk has directed at former Twitter employees.)

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Almost two months later, though, view counts have had the opposite effect, emphasizing how little engagement most posts get relative to their audience size. At the same time, Twitter usage in the United States has declined almost 9 percent since Musk’s takeover, according to one recent study.

Twitter sources say the view count feature itself may be contributing to the decline in engagement, and therefore views. The like and retweet buttons were made smaller to accommodate the display of views, making them harder to easily tap.

An even more obvious reason for the decline in engagement is Twitter’s increasingly glitchy product, which has baffled users with its disappearing mentions, shifting algorithmic priorities, and tweets inserted seemingly at random from accounts they don’t follow. On Wednesday, the company suffered one of its first major outages since Musk took over, with users being told, inexplicably, “You are over the daily limit for sending tweets.”

It turns out that an employee had inadvertently deleted data for an internal service that sets rate limits for using Twitter. The team that worked on that service left the company in November.

“As the adage goes, ‘you ship your org chart,’” said one current employee. “It’s chaos here right now, so we’re shipping chaos.”

  

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375. "and people wonder why folks surround themselves with yes me "
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they fire all the people who give them the truth.. lol

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376. "this is exactly what would happen if a neighborhood drunk"
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bought your local bar

he spent $44 billion on the thing he's hopelessly addicted to and can't figure out why it doesn't work like he thinks it does

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377. "i could see Elon sharing one of those Facebook copyright I HEARBY STATE"
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TWITTER DOES NOT HAVE MY PERMISSION... just paste in your time line! better safe than sorry... I saw it on Channel 4!

  

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382. "I used to warn friends about pasting that bullshit"
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but I gave up that fight.

and usually those who post that shit on FB follow up weeks later with a “ignore friends request, I was hacked”



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378. "he wants to be a dictator so bad..."
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thank God he can't run for president...

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381. "its kinda funny how dude is managing by decree"
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with no beta or a/b split testing of new features. just do what i say.

and of course the end result is a less appealing product thats basically pissing off everyone.

they said his interactions dropped by 10% already basically because of oversaturation and people losing interest in him. i wouldnt be surprised if active users overall actually dropped by that much already. and even if the oversaturation reasoning were true...his solution to that is to throw his tweets in peoples faces even more lol.

  

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385. "because he's not an engineer, he's just a bad manager"
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who has been lucky with his failures

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379. "Bro really attended the Super Bowl with Rupert Murdoch"
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so much for being a rebellious free spirit interested in unbiased media

  

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380. "Elon musk now promoting his tweets over everyone else "
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https://www.theverge.com/2023/2/14/23600358/elon-musk-tweets-algorithm-changes-twitter

https://youtu.be/OCq0DlPLG64

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383. "of course #blockElon is now trending..."
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384. "RE: of course #blockElon is now trending..."
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Does a user get shadowbanned if one mutes/blocks Musky boy?

  

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389. "maybe"
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https://www.vice.com/en/article/m7gmqx/tesla-buffalo-union-busting-shadowban-twitter

seems he shadowbanned Tesla's union

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386. "2FA deez nuts."
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No way I'm paying for this shit. If that "locks me out of Twitter," then so be it.

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387. "He's taking a way security and trust AS A FEATURE"
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The blue checkmarks now represent simply money, they are meaningless as compared to before.

And the 2FA moving to be paid simply means more accounts can be hacked.

This is replaced by: Elon's tweets being amplified crazily so more people see them.

It is simply a vanity website for Elon now, everyone else is just an after thought.

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390. "fyi: this just applies to sms 2fa."
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basically he cant afford the sms bill anymore and is charging for it.

sms 2fa is the least secure option (vs auth app, key, etc).

so dude is charging for the least secure enhancement option and leaving the most secure enhancement option(s) free lol.

  

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391. "^^^^, yup, it's just the headline that reads bad"
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and people who are just looking for confirmation of their "FUCK ELON MUSK" bias will happily promote it without reading the fine print.

Plenty of reason to despise the dude/Twitter's decisions, but this ain't one of them.

  

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392. "I'd argue SMS verification is what the vast majority of users actually u..."
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>and people who are just looking for confirmation of their
>"FUCK ELON MUSK" bias will happily promote it without reading
>the fine print.
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>Plenty of reason to despise the dude/Twitter's decisions, but
>this ain't one of them.

And that the reports that if you are using SMS as 2 factor they will turn it off on March 20th and you won't be able to log in. (Let's hope some rogue engineer flips the toggle to turns off SMS 2FA on non-blue accounts before they do it.)

SMS 2FA is very secure for the vast majority of people. It's more secure than not having it on. And if Twitter wants to disable it then they could roll it out in a better way.

If they said "We're going require current users of SMS 2FA to use free token based 2FA by April 20th, and starting on March 20th we will begin disabling and removing 2FA SMS for non Twitter blue users. Twitter blue users will still be able to use 2FA SMS, but we recommend token based authentication to all users." then it wouldn't trigger the "FUCK ELON!!!" portion of my brain.









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393. "SMS is used by majority of users who actually use 2FA"
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but only 2.6% of users actually use 2FA to begin with (source: https://transparency.twitter.com/en/reports/account-security.html)

As far as being "locked out" that is wrong. If you have SMS 2FA selected you will simply have your 2FA turned off and you'll need to select a different form of 2FA or ride 2FA-less.

  

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394. "i guess the PR/communications department is gone"
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so there isn't anyone around to word the announcement correctly... LOL!

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396. "I mean almost any decent engineer could have written that"
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>so there isn't anyone around to word the announcement
>correctly... LOL!
Or asked ChatGPT to write it.

Here' I did it, I asked ChatGPT:

Dear valued customers,

We would like to inform you that we will no longer be providing SMS 2FA (two-factor authentication) for free. Due to the increasing costs associated with providing this service, we have had to make the difficult decision to charge a fee for SMS 2FA. This means that if you wish to continue using SMS 2FA, you will need to pay a fee.

However, we would like to remind you that we still offer token-based 2FA for free. Token-based 2FA provides an additional layer of security by requiring users to enter a unique token generated by an authenticator app, rather than relying on SMS messages. This method is just as secure and reliable as SMS 2FA, and we highly recommend it as a secure alternative.

For more information on our updated 2FA policy and pricing, please visit our website . We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause and we are committed to providing you with the best security solutions possible.

Thank you for your understanding and continued support.

Sincerely,



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Important: Changes to SMS 2FA

Starting from March 20, 2023, we will no longer support SMS-based two-factor authentication (2FA) for free users. SMS 2FA is a security feature that sends you a code via text message when you log in to your account. If you want to keep using SMS 2FA, you will need to upgrade to our premium plan.

However, you can still use token-based 2FA for free. Token-based 2FA is a more secure and convenient option that uses an app on your smartphone to generate a code. You can use any app that supports the Time-based One-time Password Algorithm (TOTP), such as Google Authenticator or Authy.

To switch to token-based 2FA, please follow these steps:

Log in to your account and go to Settings > Security.
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397. "LOL! Great job!"
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I guess Elon asked the wrong AI Bot to write the announcement... Maybe he wrote it himself... LOL!

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388. "is there *any* idea zuckerberg wont copy from another social network?"
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dude is even copying the shitty ideas that have completely flopped and been universally panned now.

https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1627672780236890112

imagine watching a company a fraction of your size miss its revenue targets by 50%, degrade the user experience basically overnight, and drive active user engagement down so much that even the owner of the site is bitching about decreased activity on *his own* tweets...and saying to yourself 'lets copy that'.

  

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395. "is there even testing being done"
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before the rollout?

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398. "Elon mocks disabled employee that he can't fire"
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Said employee then proceeds to roast him...

https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/07/tech/elon-musk-twitter-employee-disability/index.html

https://youtu.be/BxrCmxA3w4Q

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399. "This was so fun to witness in real time."
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Elon is suuuuuuuuuuch a worthless piece of shit.

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400. "the whole world is finding out he's a dumb terrible person"
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401. "Forreal. The way people still vouche for this guy "
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like they are personal friends is weird.

  

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402. "it's damn near literally just people that bought a Tesla..."
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and want to feel okay about their purchase.

  

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405. "RE: it's damn near literally just people that bought Tesla shares*"
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403. "my account got hacked"
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and twitter refuses to restore it because the hacker changed the email address associated with the account and thus, can't verify me.

smh.


welp.

  

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404. "To be fair this happened to my wife pre-Elon."
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So this is an issue they've been dealing with for a long time. There's no real "customer service" per se so even tho my wife had all the receipts to prove the account was hers, they would never reset her password.

It's so frustrating cuz I can't even like, send her a link to something funny or interesting on twitter cuz she's unable to view it. Which I kinda don't understand overall cuz you don't usually need a twitter account to access just a random tweet. I dunno. My wife's relationship to technology is that of a blind boomer so perhaps this is all her fault to begin with haha.

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406. "So, on April 1 all of the "legacy" checkmarks disappear"
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Meaning that if you want a blue check mark, you have to pay for the $8 for one. For "brands," there's word that he's charging $1,000 a month.

Also, on April 15, the only paid subscribers will appear in "For You." Also, you will have to be a paid subscriber to vote in polls.

What's funniest to me is that apparently if you pay for a blue checkmark, you can choose not to have a blue checkmark displayed. You can get all the benefits (longer tweets, editing, prime placement) without having to be a "This MF paid for Twitter!" meme. So they're aware of the stigma of actually paying for this shit.

I'm still thinking there's a healthy chance Elon walks all this back. Especially when it's clear that it's not going to make him $44 billion.

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407. "sucker check"
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he's claiming it's the only way to stop the AI bots lol

  

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408. "Looks like Twitter is still censoring the right..."
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Why did Elon pay 45 billion for it again?!?

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/twitter-cites-rules-violent-speech-restricting-marjorie-taylor-greenes-rcna77106

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409. "*sigh* Musk changes twitter icon to Dogecoin dog"
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https://www.npr.org/2023/04/04/1167877216/dogecoin-elon-musk-twitter-logo

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410. "Twitter Adds ‘State-Affiliated Media’ Label To NPR Account..."
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Twitter Adds ‘State-Affiliated Media’ Label To NPR Account Putting It On Par With Russia Today

https://www.forbes.com/sites/mattnovak/2023/04/05/twitter-adds-state-affiliated-media-label-to-npr-account-putting-it-on-par-with-russia-today/?sh=88e6923635c2

Twitter added a warning to NPR’s Twitter account on Tuesday, declaring it as “state-affiliated media,” a label that’s typically been reserved for foreign media outlets that represent the official views of the government, like Russia’s RT and China’s Xinhua.

In fact, several people on Twitter pointed out that the social media company specifically said that news outlets like NPR are not state-affiliated media because they have editorial independence, despite getting some funds from the government.

“State-affiliated media is defined as outlets where the state exercises control over editorial content through financial resources, direct or indirect political pressures, and/or control over production and distribution,” Twitter’s Help Center reads.

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411. "Unfuckingreal."
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412. "Meanwhile: Voice of America does not have the label"
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It's the ACTUAL state run media.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voice_of_America

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413. "Musk is such a fucking dork."
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414. "crazy!"
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415. "elon musk bans all replies, likes, and retweets for substack links"
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because substack unveiled a 'notes' feature that is seen as a twitter competitor.

https://twitter.com/verge/status/1644352432867098624


the overwhelming majority of people wont give a shit about this. but its kinda hilarious because the elon musk 'intellectual dark web' journalism club like matt taibbi, glenn greenwald, bari weiss, etc depend on substack to reach their audience and make money.

  

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416. "Matt Taibbi votes yes in this poll"
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what a time to be alive

https://twitter.com/OAlexanderDK/status/1644434173833146396


https://twitter.com/BigTechAlert/status/1644438910305464326

  

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417. "Elon made Taibbi's twitter page unsearchable."
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meaning you can't search through his tweets like you can with most people.

not much for these "DESTROYS" videos but he got absolutely bodied on msnbc last week over twitter files errors.

prob wasn't the best idea to go full lapdog for that guy

  

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418. "taibbi is so fuckin dumb"
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419. "Dumb, but &quot;used to be&quot; respected"
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That's the money maker for these clowns.

His take, as well as people like Bill Maher is "I haven't changed, you have!"

If you can swallow that lie then they got you.

Matt'll be fine.A paid blog and the number of 363,000 subscribers at $50 a year each after fees is still like $10 million a year.

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420. "Twitter Inc. no longer exists, now X Corp."
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https://appleinsider.com/articles/23/04/11/twitter-inc-no-longer-exists-now-x-corp

Elon Musk-owned X Corp. has absorbed Twitter Inc. as the first step to becoming an "everything app" similar to China's WeChat.
Twitter's slow transformation from micro-blog to everything platform has seemingly begun. A series of corporate ownership moves has made Twitter Inc. cease to exist, at least in name.

According to information obtained by Slate, X Corp. merged with Twitter Inc. on April 4. This information was revealed within court documents from an ongoing court case between Twitter and Laura Loomer.

The court case in question isn't particularly important, it's a case where Loomer is suing Twitter for violating federal racketeering laws when her account was banned in 2019. What is interesting are court filings that were shared publicly.

The filing reads: "Twitter, Inc. has been merged into X Corp. and no longer exists."

This merger hasn't been announced and likely won't have any immediate effect on the app or service, but it is a first step from Elon Musk. He previously said that Twitter would become the "everything app" called X and could rival other platforms like China's WeChat.

Nothing suggests that X Corp. will actually lead to the X app. The reporting also suggests this could be a move to have a larger parent company named X as the controlling interest over all of Musk's properties like Tesla and Space X.

Interestingly, this also means that the entity that is Twitter under X Corp. is now based in Nevada instead of Delaware. However, all of the debt and lawsuits Musk and Twitter faced before will be carried to the new X Corp.

And, Musk was the original owner of the "X.com" domain. He once used it for a payment service that was rolled into Paypal back around the turn of the century.

He re-bought the domain in 2017, for an undisclosed sum.

Twitter is still functional as a social media platform. It continues to spark controversy with who it allows, who it bans, and what content is allowed.

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421. "NPR quitting twitter"
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https://www.npr.org/2023/04/12/1169269161/npr-leaves-twitter-government-funded-media-label

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NPR announced it would cease posting to Twitter after the social media platform labeled the nonprofit "Government-funded Media."
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NPR will no longer post fresh content to its 52 official Twitter feeds, becoming the first major news organization to go silent on the social media platform. In explaining its decision, NPR cited Twitter's decision to first label the network "state-affiliated media," the same term it uses for propaganda outlets in Russia, China and other autocratic countries.

The decision by Twitter last week took the public radio network off guard. When queried by NPR tech reporter Bobby Allyn, Twitter owner Elon Musk asked how NPR functioned. Musk allowed that he might have gotten it wrong.

Twitter then revised its label on NPR's account to "government-funded media." The news organization says that is inaccurate and misleading, given that NPR is a private, nonprofit company with editorial independence. It receives less than 1 percent of its $300 million annual budget from the federally funded Corporation for Public Broadcasting.

By going silent on Twitter, NPR's chief executive says the network is protecting its credibility and its ability to produce journalism without "a shadow of negativity."

"The downside, whatever the downside, doesn't change that fact," NPR CEO John Lansing said in an interview. "I would never have our content go anywhere that would risk our credibility."

Elon Musk says NPR's 'state-affiliated media' label might not have been accurate
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Elon Musk says NPR's 'state-affiliated media' label might not have been accurate
In a BBC interview posted online Wednesday, Musk suggested he may further change the label to "publicly funded." His words did not sway NPR's decision makers. Even if Twitter were to drop the designation altogether, Lansing says the network will not immediately return to the platform.

"At this point I have lost my faith in the decision-making at Twitter," he says. "I would need some time to understand whether Twitter can be trusted again."

NPR is instituting a "two-week grace period" so the staff who run the Twitter accounts can revise their social-media strategies. Lansing says individual NPR journalists and staffers can decide for themselves whether to continue using Twitter.

In an email to staff explaining the decision, Lansing wrote, "It would be a disservice to the serious work you all do here to continue to share it on a platform that is associating the federal charter for public media with an abandoning of editorial independence or standards."

For years, many journalists considered Twitter critical to monitoring news developments, to connect with people at major events and with authoritative sources, and to share their coverage. Musk's often hastily announced policy changes have undermined that. Lansing says that degradation in the culture of Twitter — already often awash in abusive content — contributed to NPR's decision to pull back.

Musk proves conciliatory and erratic in BBC interview
PBS, which also receives money from the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, and the BBC, which is funded by a uniform license fee charged to British television viewers, are among those whose Twitter accounts were given the same designation.

In the new interview with the BBC's James Clayton, Musk almost appeared to be seeking a compromise with the journalist. He said Twitter would adjust its labels for the British public broadcaster to "publicly funded."

"We're trying to be accurate," Musk said. "I actually do have a lot of respect for the BBC." He said the interview offered him a chance to "get some feedback on what we should be doing different."

When questioned by Clayton, Musk replied that the "publicly funded" label would apply to NPR as well. The change was not made before NPR's decision on Wednesday morning, however.

The BBC exchange showed Musk as alternately conciliatory and erratic. He also said that he's sleeping on a couch at work, that he followed through on his promise to purchase Twitter only because a judge forced him to, and that he should stop tweeting after 3 a.m.

"The point is the independence," NPR leader says
Lansing says Musk is focusing attention on the wrong element of the equation.

"The whole point isn't whether or not we're government funded," Lansing says. "Even if we were government funded, which we're not, the point is the independence, because all journalism has revenue of some sort."

NPR's board is appointed without any government influence. And the network has at times tangled with both Democratic and Republican administrations. For example, NPR joined with other media organizations to press the Obama administration for access to closed hearings involving detainees held by U.S. authorities at Guantanamo Bay. And "All Things Considered" host Mary Louise Kelly stood her ground in questioning then-Secretary of State Mike Pompeo over then-President Donald Trump's actions in Ukraine despite being berated by Pompeo.

Most of NPR's funding comes from corporate and individual supporters and grants. It also receives significant programming fees from member stations. Those stations, in turn, receive about 13 percent of their funds from the CPB and other state and federal government sources.

It isn't clear that a withdrawal from Twitter will materially affect NPR's ability to reach an online audience. NPR's primary Twitter account has 8.8 million followers — more than a million more than follow the network on Facebook. Yet Facebook is a much bigger platform, and NPR's Facebook posts often are far more likely to spur engagement or click-throughs to NPR's own website. NPR Music has almost 10 times more followers on YouTube than it does on Twitter, and the video platform serves as one of the primary conduits for its popular Tiny Desk Series.

Musk uses Twitter to question the legitimacy of media outlets
NPR's decision follows a week of public acrimony, as Musk has used his platform to cast doubt on the legitimacy of major news organizations.

The billionaire, who bought Twitter in October, previously announced he would remove check marks from the accounts of legacy news organizations unless the outlets paid for them. The coveted marks once meant Twitter had verified the authenticity of an account belonging to a news organization, government or public figure. Now, they can be bought through a monthly subscription.

Musk also singled out The New York Times earlier this month, removing its check mark and calling its reporting "propaganda." Twitter's communications shop now simply responds to reporters' emails with poop emojis.

At least three public radio stations preceded NPR to the exits at Twitter: Member stations KCRW in Santa Monica, Calif., WESA in Pittsburgh and WEKU, which serves central and eastern Kentucky.

Fears that Twitter label could endanger journalists
Journalism and freedom-of-speech groups have condemned Twitter's labels, including PEN, the Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press and the Committee to Protect Journalists.

"NPR receives public funding, but is not state-controlled, meaning Twitter's listing could pose risks for journalists reporting from areas where suggestions of government affiliation have negative connotations," CPJ's Carlos Martínez de la Serna said in a statement urging Twitter to revisit its decision.

Twitter's own guidelines previously said, "State-financed media organizations with editorial independence, like the BBC in the UK or NPR in the US for example, are not defined as state-affiliated media for the purposes of this policy."

That language has now been removed. In addition to NPR and the BBC, Twitter recently labeled the U.S. broadcaster Voice of America as government-funded media. Voice of America is part of the federal U.S. Agency for Global Media. But its editorial independence from government officials — at times hard won — is enshrined by law.

"The label 'government funded' is potentially misleading and could be construed as also 'government-controlled' – which VOA is most certainly not," VOA spokesperson Bridget Serchak said in a statement to NPR.

Serchak says VOA will continue to raise the distinction in talks with Twitter as the label "causes unwarranted and unjustified concern about the accuracy and objectivity of news coverage."

At Elon Musk's Twitter, unpredictability is the norm
Like so many policy decisions at the social network of late, Musk applied the label to NPR's Twitter account abruptly. It's still not clear why he became so animated about the issue.

In his exchanges with NPR reporter Allyn, Musk said he was relying on a Wikipedia page dedicated to "publicly funded broadcasters" to determine which accounts should receive the label.

When pressed for how he justifies the disclaimer considering NPR receives meager funding from the government and has complete editorial independence, Musk veered into conspiratorial territory.

"If you really think that the government has no influence on the entity they're funding then you've been marinating in the Kool-Aid for too long," Musk wrote to Allyn.

Musk's push to label the network even ran afoul of the site's own rules. A former Twitter executive who was involved in crafting the guidelines told NPR that the deciding factor in whether to issue the designation was whether an outlet had editorial freedom. The labels, the former executive said, were intended to give users context that a tweet they are seeing may be propaganda.

The messy deliberations on display in Musk's email exchanges over labeling NPR's account are in line with his impulsive leadership style. His changes to the platform often are announced by tweet, with sudden reversals not uncommon, or promised changes never coming to fruition. Because Musk relishes troll-like behavior, there is always a possibility that his pronouncements turn out to be jokes. He has announced that the effective date for the change in the check mark verification system is April 20. The date is an inside joke among people who smoke or consume marijuana.

Disclosure: This story was reported and written by NPR Media Correspondent David Folkenflik and edited by Acting Chief Business Editor Emily Kopp and Managing Editor Vickie Walton-James. NPR's Bobby Allyn and Mary Yang contributed to this story. Under NPR's protocol for reporting on itself, no corporate official or news executive reviewed this story before it was posted publicly.

  

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423. "too bad they wont stop reading it"
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and basing stories/opinions around things people are saying on twitter.

  

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424. "PBS quits twitter, too."
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https://www.axios.com/2023/04/12/pbs-twitter-government-funded-label

PBS stops tweeting after Musk adds "government-funded" label

PBS has not tweeted from its main Twitter handle since April 8, following Elon Musk's decision to label the outlet "government-funded news."

Why it matters: PBS joins NPR, another major editorially independent outlet that receives some government funding, in halting its Twitter activity in light of the new label.

NPR said Wednesday it was suspending its use of Twitter after the platform labeled it "government-funded."
Details: Twitter added a "government-funded" label to PBS' main Twitter account last weekend, a spokesperson confirmed.

“We did stop tweeting at that point as soon as we discovered it," a PBS spokesperson confirmed.
"We have no plans to resume tweeting."
The label was placed only on PBS' main Twitter handle, not any of the accounts affiliated with PBS, like its local stations or individual shows.
State of play: NPR and PBS are the second and third major outlets to stop tweeting since Musk bought Twitter last fall.

CBS news last year paused its use of Twitter temporarily after Musk purchased the platform.
Catch up quick: Twitter on Sunday added a new "government-funded" label to a few select media outlets that receive some funding from governments, including NPR and BBC.

Twitter originally added a "US state-affiliated media" label to NPR's main Twitter account last week, without explanation or warning, in what appeared to be a violation of the platform's previously stated policies.
When pressed by NPR, Musk couldn’t provide a reason for the label on NPR's account and not others, but he said he'd look into it.
In a surprise interview with the BBC on Tuesday, Musk said that he would change BBC's label to "public funded." He did not say whether he would do the same for NPR or PBS.
The big picture: The labels are the latest in a series of spontaneous policy shifts under Musk.

As Axios has reported, many of those shifts have had an outsized impact on the media industry, which represents some of Twitter's most hyper-engaged users.

  

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425. "if we had a real principled press in this country they would all join in"
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and take some sort of action with twitter in solidarity.

  

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426. "Has the Twitter algorithm improved?"
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I quit, deactivated, and uninstalled my app about a month or two ago. All the changes Musk is making on top of how terrible the algorithm was for finding like minded accounts or posts just turned me off from what to use the app.

Has the algorithm improved in recent months? That should be the primary task in hand if Musk is going to charge folks to verify their accounts IMO.

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427. "tldr; So, yes it's improved for a certain type of person."
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>Has the algorithm improved in recent months? That should be
>the primary task in hand if Musk is going to charge folks to
>verify their accounts IMO.
So he reinstates a ton of right wing disinformation, bigotry and stupidity. (And some "left" hippie conspiracy types too.)

He then promotes HIMSELF so highly he gets into people's timelines even if they have blocked him.

He's promoting Glenn Greenwald and CatTurd2 at the same level as the president of the united states.

He promotes people who pay for the service and mis-labels NPR and BBC with the same label as Russia Today.

A bunch of people have simply quit so they aren't going to be in your algorithm.

And he himself (who's highly promoted) engages with far right wing bigots thus promoting their place higher too.

tldr; So, yes it's improved for a certain type of person.

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428. "Elon paying to keep some checks blue"
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https://twitter.com/PopBase/status/1649199143922057217?s=20

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429. "Some dead celebs keep blue checkmark (did they subscribe??)"
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Note:Yes, some or ALL of these celebrities' estates might have signed up for the checkmark - but then again....

These celebrities ‘subscribed to Twitter Blue.’ Except they’re dead.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2023/04/23/twitter-blue-dead-celebrities/


Chadwick Boseman, Kobe Bryant and Anthony Bourdain are the latest celebrities to be verified under Twitter Blue, the social media platform’s paid-subscription service that allows anyone to get a blue check mark by their display name if they pay $8 a month and confirm their phone number.

Except the actor, athlete and celebrity chef died years ago, before Twitter Blue even existed.

Their accounts — and those of at least a dozen other dead celebrities — now feature a blue check, which, if hovered over, displays the message: “This account is verified because they are subscribed to Twitter Blue and verified their phone number.”

Twitter Blue first launched in 2021 as an opt-in service providing special perks for users, like the ability to “undo” tweets, for about $3 a month. It has evolved since Elon Musk bought the company in October and was recently relaunched at a higher price point with new features.

VVVV--THIS PART--VVVV
It wasn’t clear whether someone paid for Twitter Blue on the celebrities’ behalf and gave a phone number. Many of the profiles haven’t been active since these people died, and others are being actively managed. Twitter did not respond to a request for comment early Sunday.

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The pivot to the new system has not been smooth. Some celebrities with large followings whose profiles still feature the check mark claimed they never paid for Twitter Blue. Musk said he personally paid for the subscriptions of at least three celebrities; one of them, the author Stephen King, later tweeted that Musk “should give my blue check to charity.”

Several high-profile people who said they had automatically gotten Twitter Blue complained that the check mark, previously a status symbol, now felt like a reprimand.

“wait I’m crying they’re giving them for punishment now !!?!!” tweeted model and television personality Chrissy Teigen. When Jon Favreau, co-host of the left-wing political podcast “Pod Save America,” bemoaned getting the emoji, Teigen advised him that changing his account handle would make the check mark disappear.

Among the deceased public figures listed Sunday as Twitter Blue subscribers were performers Michael Jackson, who died in 2009, and Malcolm James McCormick, known professionally as Mac Miller, who died in 2018, as well as John McCain, the Republican senator from Arizona who also died in 2018. Actress Kirstie Alley, TV news anchor Barbara Walters and Linkin Park singer Chester Bennington, all of whom have died, also had blue check marks.

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Many pointed to the blue check mark on the account of Jamal Khashoggi, the Saudi journalist and Washington Post columnist who was assassinated in 2018, in what U.S. intelligence agencies say was a hit ordered by Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman.

“This is obscene,” said Mohamad Bazzi, an associate professor of journalism at New York University.

“Jamal Khashoggi deserves better,” said Manisha Ganguly, an investigations correspondent for the Guardian.

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430. "it seems that people with over 1M followers got their checks back"
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i'll admit it's pretty funny watching the range of reactions, or celebs trying to re-assure their followers that they're not paying.

  

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431. "The complete lack of consistency…"
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>i'll admit it's pretty funny watching the range of reactions,
>or celebs trying to re-assure their followers that they're not
>paying.
I think biggest issue that a lot of people have is the absolute lack of consistency, the obvious bullshit, and the complete lack of communication.

The real reason the checkmarks are staying on is so that people will trust those legacy accounts so they’ll return to Twitter to read updates, or refer to historical tweets, which is how Twitter can make money with advertising, but with the owner of Twitter said is not consistent with that.

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432. "oh it's a shitshow"
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just tripping on the range of responses

some who lost their checks kinda rolling with it, joking about it like "oh well"

some getting upset and announcing that they're leaving (again)

some legit concerned how much easier for them to be impersonated... especially if they leave now.

some unhinged ones about how people are going to die from this.

then you got your chud with 80 followers thinking a blue check gives them status

then you got people who got them back and don't want them because it's now some kind of mark of shame. A few people got mad at Stephen King until Elon announced he 'paid' for it

this was just a dumb idea all around.

  

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433. "he not only made the blue checkmark meaningless"
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he made it undesirable to the point that people are trying to get rid of it and people are making fun of people with it.

the blue checkmark has become some new age social stigma at this point.

like some shit you gotta lie to your girlfriend about so she doesnt lose respect for you.

  

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434. "He totally inverted the meaning of it. Also, yall getting sh*tty ads"
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for things you would never buy?


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435. "honestly the whole app is just junk now."
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the irrelevant ads for bootleg companies and products, the temu bots on every hash tag with the promo codes, trend/search results from other countries and different languages even tho you have united states selected for your results, videos buffering and/or playing out of sync with the audio, etc.

and thats not even including the forcefeeding of right wing shit to your timeline.

its disappointing as hell that nobody has been able to come up with a viable alternative because mad people would jump shit asap.

  

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436. "haven't even noticed but my ForYou is full of fight videos"
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and jordan peterson wanting to boycott pretty much everything

  

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438. "I got a "For You" of girls showing off Nut on their face. "
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And I don't even follow a whole lot of ratchedness.




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437. "a lot of foreign, made for TV esque junk."
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I was lucky because for about three or four months I was getting no ads at all even though I've never paid for Twitter Blue, but now it's out of hand.

I guess right now it doesn't even matter because I'm suspended for seven days for crassly responding to a person who called me a baby killer lol.

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439. "NYC Subway Ends Twitter Service Alerts"
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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-04-27/new-york-mta-ends-twitter-service-alerts-after-musk-raises-price

New York City’s mass-transit system is ending its real-time service alerts on Twitter for subway, train and bus riders as the Metropolitan Transportation Authority curbs its relationship with the platform owned by Elon Musk.

Twitter had asked the MTA to pay $50,000 a month to continue accessing the platform’s application programming interface, or API, an infrastructure tool that allows for multiple computer programs to work together, according to an MTA official. Twitter didn’t specifically respond to an emailed request for comment.

“I don’t think it would be the best use of resources, especially when we have these other features and functions that are internal and homegrown and that are reliable that we want our customers to use,” Shanifah Rieara, MTA’s acting chief customer officer and senior advisor, said in a telephone interview. “We want to communicate with our customers through all platforms, but we need a platform that is reliant and consistent and up to date.”

MTA’s Twitter accounts that offered real time service updates to riders, including @NYCTSubway, @NYCTBus, @LIRR and @MetroNorth, will no longer be used to push out communication like service alerts to riders, according to the transit system. Transit system employees will still monitor those handles and respond to social media messages. There’s no planned change to @MTA account.

Twitter had announced that it would suspend its access to its API on Feb. 9 but then said a new paid tier structure to use it would go into effect at the end of March, according to the MTA. Twitter didn’t offer a time line for when older accounts would lose access, the agency said.

The MTA has a $600 million budget deficit this year that’s set to grow to $3 billion in 2025 as federal pandemic aid runs out. The state agency is hoping that a plan by New York Governor Kathy Hochul and state legislators will help curb the system’s financial challenges.

Riders on subways, buses and commuter rails can still get real-time service information on MTA’s phone apps, MYmta and TrainTime, its website and on WhatsApp.

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440. "Think of all the Twitter users who use that"
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One less reason for them to check Twitter, and see the ads by accident.

Even if he makes it free again for some accounts the instability isn't something most companies would want to deal with.

He's bad at this business.


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441. "Anyone got any of them bluesky invites??"
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https://media.tenor.com/DdWuB0MNuu4AAAAM/crack-crackhead.gif

  

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442. "^^^ ???"
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443. "I think its unfortunately true that most will continue to use twitter ev..."
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if its a shittier experience by a few magnitudes.

I was reading something recently about the how the internet in general inevitably gets worst as the more popular and app gets, the more there is the pressure to make money, which results in a shittier experience.

That great free app now has ads and etc.


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444. "RE: I think its unfortunately true that most will continue to use twitte..."
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i think as soon as bluesky gets past the invite phase a critical mass of folks will move there from twitter.

i'm planning to, at least.

  

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446. "I don't think it's clear to people who aren't on it yet"
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that bluesky barely exists

it has basically no features, you name it, at this point, it ain't got it.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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447. "i saw that"
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they had to roll out blocking and it launched without it, lol. that slightly chilled my enthusiasm.

i just need blocking, muting, and the core collection of the people i follow to transition and i'm good.

but. i just lurk, so i recognize that my needs and wants are different than the folks i follow.

i'm ready to be done w/ twitter.

elon achieved what zuck couldn't- he got me to actually engage with instagram. not heavily, but it's replaced some of the time i would have previously spent scrolling my timeline on twitter.

  

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449. "I really mean it ain't got shit"
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there's no video, you can't link anything in any way that works, the desktop site is a staging site

it is pre pre alpha

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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445. "RE: I think its unfortunately true that most will continue to use twitte..."
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https://www.wired.com/story/tiktok-platforms-cory-doctorow/

The ‘Enshittification’ of TikTok
Or how, exactly, platforms die.

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448. "Elon Musk threatens to re-assign @NPR on Twitter to 'another company'"
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https://www.npr.org/2023/05/02/1173422311/elon-musk-npr-twitter-reassign

Elon Musk has threatened to reassign NPR's Twitter account to "another company."

In a series of emails sent to this reporter, Musk said he would transfer the network's main account on Twitter, under the @NPR handle, to another organization or person. The idea shocked even longtime observers of Musk's spur-of-the-moment and erratic leadership style.

Handing over established accounts to third parties poses a serious risk of impersonation and could imperil a company's reputation, said social media experts.

"If this is a sign of things to come on Twitter, we might soon see even more of a rapid retreat by media organizations and other brands that don't think it's worth the risk," said Emily Bell, a professor at Columbia Journalism School who studies social media. "It's really an extraordinary threat to make."

Last month, NPR effectively quit Twitter after Musk applied a label to the news organization's account that falsely suggested it was state-controlled. Other public media organizations, including PBS and the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, followed suit and stopped tweeting following similar labeling.

Musk has since removed the labels, but the outlets originally targeted have not resumed public activity on Twitter.

Musk: 'should we reassign @NPR to another company?'
In an unprompted Tuesday email, Musk wrote: "So is NPR going to start posting on Twitter again, or should we reassign @NPR to another company?"

Under Twitter's terms of service, an account's inactivity is based on logging in, not tweeting. Those rules state that an account must be logged into at least every 30 days, and that "prolonged inactivity" can result in it being permanently removed.

Musk did not answer when asked whether he planned to change the platform's definition of inactivity and he declined to say what prompted his new questions about NPR's lack of participation on Twitter.

"Our policy is to recycle handles that are definitively dormant," Musk wrote in another email. "Same policy applies to all accounts. No special treatment for NPR."

The threat of retaliation is the latest volley in a months-long conflict between Musk and established media organizations since the billionaire purchased Twitter in October.

Elon Musk says NPR's 'state-affiliated media' label might not have been accurate

Musk has long attacked the media and attempted to undercut the credibility of journalists. The Twitter CEO has suspended reporters who have published or promoted stories critical of him. Musk has stripped away, and at times reissued, "verified" blue check marks to news organizations and individual journalists.

By recently making "verified" blue checks available for purchase, Musk has created a turbulent social media landscape, blurring the lines for users between what is real and what is fake on one of the most influential social networks.

Musk to NPR: 'So what's the beef?'
His remark on Tuesday that he may transfer NPR's primary Twitter account with nearly 9 million followers to another entity is typical of how Musk has run the social media site.

As is often the case with Musk, it is not clear whether he will follow through on the threat.

One former Twitter executive was taken aback by the remark, telling NPR that such a threat should be alarming to any business operating on the site, since it indicates that acquiescing to Musk's every whim may be necessary in order to avoid being impersonated.

For most of its 17-year history, Twitter has had rules that maintained a certain level of order and offered both individuals and organization some control over their presence on the platform.

NPR CEO John Lansing has previously said he lost faith with "decision-making at Twitter," and that more time is needed in order to determine if Twitter can be trusted again.

A spokeswoman for NPR declined to comment further.

Musk, whose statements to reporters are regularly laced with jokes, insults or attempts at trolling, responded sarcastically when asked who would potentially take over NPR's Twitter account.

"National Pumpkin Radio," Musk wrote, adding a fire emoji and a laughing emoji to describe the content of the fictional gourd-themed broadcaster. "NPR isn't tagged as government-funded anymore, so what's the beef?"

Disclosure: This story was reported and written by NPR Tech Reporter Bobby Allyn and edited by Business Editor Lisa Lambert. Under NPR's protocol for reporting on itself, no corporate official or news executive reviewed this story before it was posted publicly.

  

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450. "yeah this definitely seems like a good platform to invest in"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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451. "fucking man child"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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454. "Insane"
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452. "I haven't been that invested in this for the most part, but lately..."
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I'm noticing all these blue check fucks with 25 followers getting platformed in the sense that if I click on a tweets replies I see these accounts prioritized to the top of the replies and those accounts are either bots, trolls, or the shittiest people.

  

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453. "they have the worst takes"
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i've not installed the extension that blocks all blue checks because there are a handful of people that i follow that still have them for whatever reason.

but the awful takes make it tempting.

  

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458. "We need a reputable version with better blocking"
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There are a few blue checks who I purposely follow. I'd like to keep them around but hide all the randoms who bought their checks.

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455. "im seeing a lot more blue checkmarks on previous accounts."
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celebs, athletes, news personalities, etc.

also when you click on a checkmark it just says the account is verified. it doesnt mention that they are subscribed to twitter blue.

im wondering if they did a mass rollback and restored verified status to a bunch of accounts.

  

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456. "yes. they just verified any account with over a million followers"
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some of them without verifying their info at all

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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457. "This part is interesting:"
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>celebs, athletes, news personalities, etc.
>
>also when you click on a checkmark it just says the account is
>verified. it doesnt mention that they are subscribed to
>twitter blue.

When they first did the "Everyone with 1 million followers gets a Blue Check," when you clicked the bluecheck it said they'd subscribed to Twitter Blue and provided a phone number. Which lots of these account disavowed. I'm guess it might have been legally shaky to suggest that someone paid for something when they didn't.

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459. "not leaving twitter but i def need to leave the 'For You" tab"
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shit's just an amusement park for outrage.

  

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460. "Musk has been retweeting tons of black crime infographics and such."
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There is no bottom with this asshat.

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461. "dude is desperate for some traffic"
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462. "Apartheid-American (c) IkeMoses"
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___________________

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463. "Elon to partner with Tucker Carlson to broadcast show"
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As some have pointed out, Musk spent $44 billion to turn Twitter into Parler when he could have just bought Parler for 0.45% of the price that he spent on Twitter. Or, shit, he could have just bough OANN.

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464. "instagram releasing a twitter alternative soon."
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https://twitter.com/liahaberman/status/1659553280891179010

  

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465. "Can we not though?"
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I fucking hate that every social media outlet wants to be THE social media outlet. Oh snapchat got short videos that expire in 24 hours? Well guess what? Now we got that too. Oh tik tok taking off? Well not we got reels. Status updates on IG is the latest, lamest.

I liked it better when each one had their own lane.

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467. "this situation is a lil different tho."
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a ton of people are actually looking for a twitter alternative.

and one is completely necessary given what musk has done with twitter.

  

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466. "Twitter bug is restoring deleted tweets and retweets"
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https://www.theverge.com/2023/5/22/23732497/twitter-bug-restoring-deleted-tweets-retweets

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468. "shitshow."
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469. "DeSantis to launch presidential bid w/ Musk on Twitter"
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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/ron-desantis-presidential-bid-campaign-elon-musk-rcna85288

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470. "Meant to put this in desantis thread..."
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471. "twitter now only worth 1/3 of what elon musk paid for it."
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https://twitter.com/Gizmodo/status/1663687747490676736

this valuation was based on information pre desantis launch debacle too.

and wait until meta drops that twitter competitor in the next month or two (where users of the new app already retain their followers from instagram...4x the monthly user base of twitter).

  

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472. "that's why they couldn't let mcdumbass out of his deal to buy it"
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nobody else would've ever paid that price

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473. "Yea and nobody else would've destroyed it as much as fast either."
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474. "he's a literal chaos monkey"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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475. "i'm surprised it's even worth that much"
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476. "when people bring twitter debates here I see why its losing value "
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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477. "Damn... Ben & Jerry..."
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https://www.benjerry.com/whats-new/2023/05/ending-paid-twitter-advertising

Ben & Jerry’s business model is built around the idea that every decision we make, and every dollar we spend in the course of our day-to-day operations is an opportunity to advance our progressive values.

That’s why we have made the decision to end all paid advertising spending on Twitter.

We’ve watched with great concern the developments at Twitter following Elon Musk’s purchase of the social media platform. Hate speech is up dramatically while content moderation has become all but non-existent. In addition to the changes on the platform that have led to an increase in hate speech, Musk himself has doubled down on dangerous anti-democratic lies and white nationalist hate speech. The platform has become a threatening and even dangerous space for people from so many backgrounds, including people who are Black, Brown, trans, gay, women, people with disabilities, Jewish, Muslim and the list goes on. This is unconscionable in addition to being plain bad business.

That is why we’re proud to join our partners in the business, civil and human rights community in taking a stand against these harmful changes at Twitter. Musk and Twitter’s toxicity and tacit endorsement of hate and violence goes against everything our company stands for. Twitter must act today to end the extremist and violent content on the platform. Until that happens, Ben & Jerry’s will spend no money with Twitter and we call on all businesses and partners to do the same.

For the time being, we will continue to maintain a presence on the platform to connect with our community, but will revisit that presence as needed pending developments in this space.

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478. "Musk spent 24 hrs spreading anti-trans content"
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Elon Musk spent the last 24 hours spreading increasingly unhinged anti-trans content

https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-shares-anti-trans-content-twitter-2023-6

Elon Musk went all-in on sharing anti-transgender talking points after conservative pundits criticized him online on Thursday.

Right-wingers were furious at the billionaire Twitter CEO after "What is a Woman?", a 2022 online film by The Daily Wire's Matt Walsh that urges intolerance of trans people and opposes medical intervention for trans children, had its visibility slashed on the platform for violating rules on hateful conduct.

Musk chimed in amid the blowback, saying the throttling was "a mistake by many people at Twitter" and that he was stepping in to make sure it would be changed.

He later said that the movie was available for those who followed The Daily Wire, but that "sensitive content just won't be pushed to people unless they ask for it or a friend sends it to them."

That promise didn't last long.

In a tweet hours later to his millions of followers, Musk himself shared the video and declared "Every parent should watch this." As of Friday afternoon, Musk had pinned the tweet sharing the video to the top of his profile.

"Consenting adults should do whatever makes them happy, provided it does not harm others, but a child is not capable of consent, which is why we have laws protecting minors," Musk added.



Republicans and conservative commentators have been pushing laws to limit the rights of transgender people, including restricting which bathroom they can use and threatening parents and doctors if they provide gender-affirming care to kids.

Prominent doctors and medical practitioners agree that options like puberty blockers and hormone replacement therapy can be medically appropriate for trans youth.

During his latest tweetstorm, Musk vowed to start "actively lobbying to criminalize" healthcare options for transgender children that he called "severe, irreversible changes." He also backed throwing advocates in jail without parole.

Musk didn't immediately respond to questions about his tweets or whether he was addressing the decision at Twitter to limit the video with staff.

Musk has a teenage daughter who is trans; she successfully petitioned a court last year to change her name from Musk, telling a judge that she no longer wished to be related to her father "in any way, shape or form."

It's the latest rightward turn for one of the world's richest men.

Musk first explicitly announced a shift toward the Republican Party just over a year ago after Insider contacted him for comment about a former SpaceX worker's allegations of sexual harassment against him. Since taking over Twitter and vowing he is a "free-speech absolutist," Musk has reinstated banned right-wing accounts while cutting staff at the social media company.

He's flirted with conspiracy theorists and helped launch the presidential campaign of GOP Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis in a glitchy announcement on Twitter.

Top Twitter executives have fled en masse, with the platform's head of safety quitting on Thursday. The brand safety team also lost its head and possibly other staff, according to the Wall Street Journal and Ryan Mac of the New York Times.

The Journal reported that the departing A.J. Brown was one of the key executives responsible for making advertisers comfortable spending money to promote their brand on the website, an increasingly difficult job during Musk's tenure as the company has reportedly lost significant advertising revenue since he took over.

Mac reported that multiple members of Twitter's remaining staff have made their accounts private over harassment from Twitter users stemming from Musk's reversal and other comments on the "What is a Woman?" controversy.

Musk himself appeared to confirm Friday morning in an interaction with Walsh and another user that the recent departures were connected to the controversy.

Zoe Schiffer of Platformer reported Friday that Brown's resignation may have been due to changes in Twitter's ad policy, adding that the trust and safety team has been told only to enforce the company's policies on ads that are scams or illegal. The directive has reportedly caused some confusion as policies are changed, and some staff are questioning what to do with ads that include hate speech, according to Schiffer.

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479. "anybody else feel like the for you page is being cleaned up?"
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as well as the explore page when you arent logged in?

at least on the web.

this follows a report that twitter lost 60% of their revenue year over year (which elon confirmed in a twitter spaces after he lied about advertisers staying or committing to stay for the past year).

maybe he realized investors dont like it when you chase away the main revenue source?

  

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480. "nvm shit is still a cesspool."
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i musta caught a good few days or some shit.

  

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481. "reddit ceo is a big fan of elon musk and his handling of twitter."
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https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/reddit-blackout-protest-private-ceo-elon-musk-huffman-rcna89700

which explains why reddit is currently embroiled in an open rebellion and the ceo is attacking the moderators as the 'aristocracy'.

imagine watching twitter implode, destroy its own business model, chase away blue chip advertisers and popular content creators...and deciding you wanna replicate that in any way.

twitter had finally turned (increasingly) profitable for 2 straight years *before* musk took over and killed 2/3 of its advertising revenue (where it makes about 90% of its money). why not replicate *that*?



  

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482. "and a lot of people had turned to reddit"
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after leaving twitter... smh...

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483. "Reddit dude thinks his $5b comapny should be worth $20b"
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He's gassed up and he likes a the CEO who preaches "BE hardcore!!" and that too many people have jobs - it could be done by a handful of super talented individuals - and one who Wall Street who has rewarded well beyond the possible limits of sanity.

Also the people who think the API changes "cost too much" don't understand that that was ALWAYS the risk you took building a business using APIs.

It could be Digg 2.0.

I'm sure Huffman is in a Elon Musk/Peter Theil echo chamber and has lost his mind.

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484. "you can no long view tweets or profile pages without being logged in"
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on the web.

even if you click on an embedded tweet on another site.

you cant even view tweets if you click through a tweet listed on a google search.

some of the dumbest shit ive ever seen for a site hemorrhaging daily users like crazy.

  

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485. "Twitter now requires to be signed in to see tweets "
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So I definitely won't be on the site, even by accident now... LOL!

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486. "i been spending a lot more time in google news."
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i barely used it before.

but its really dope.

i actually feel a lot smarter being able to browse a ton of current stories from multiple sources in a short amount of time instead of just the few trending topics that are hot on twitter for the day lol.

  

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487. "rate limit exceeded "
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musk's destruction of the platform is ramping up.

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A lot of you players ain't okay.

We would have been better off with an okaycivics board instead of an okayactivist board

  

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488. "the poverty."
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489. "dude says hes enacted temporary post reading limits lol. "
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https://scontent-lga3-2.cdninstagram.com/v/t51.2885-15/357299004_6398502723579630_8806169032131967610_n.jpg?stp=dst-jpg_e35_s1080x1080&_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-2.cdninstagram.com&_nc_cat=1&_nc_ohc=43s_dSSWQDUAX9nnKIX&edm=AP_V10EBAAAA&ccb=7-5&oh=00_AfDwhBs7FXvG4QtbKBnb0vBDG16Y6cUF23-MFMu4yaQafg&oe=64A5673C&_nc_sid=2999b8

(i woulda linked to the actual tweet but people who arent logged in wouldnt be able to read it)

never seen someone so hell bent on destroying their own product (that they paid a fortune for).

  

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491. "musk is going to bring back roll over minutes as tweets"
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smh.

  

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495. "LOL"
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505. "LOLOLOL"
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490. "gotta find a bluesky invite n/m"
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492. "*stands in this line*"
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"They used to call me Baby Luke....but now? The whole damn 2 Liiiive Crew."

  

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493. "meta/instagram has a twitter alternative dropping soon."
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i feel dirty promoting anything related to them...but its the lesser of two evils in this case (not a high bar).

itll be a better alternative than bluesky imo because itll draw more authorative/credible news sources and content creators and itll actually be better moderated. jack dorsey was talking a lot of the same decentralized/open exchange of ideas shit that elon musk was talking. he thought twitter moderation had become too strict (because right wing nutjobs were getting banned) and he openly stated trump shouldnt have been perma-banned even after his twitter activity directly contributed to violence.

  

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494. "meta twitter alternative briefly popped up in google play app store."
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https://www.theverge.com/2023/7/1/23781179/metas-twitter-competitor-threads-briefly-showed-up-on-the-google-play-app-store-today

they really woulda knocked it out of the park if they launched their full campaign today.

it honestly might have killed twitter in a week.

  

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496. "better link:"
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https://www.theverge.com/2023/7/1/23781271/instagram-threads-twitter-leak-android-google-play

  

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498. "bluesky already facing racism (lack of) moderation complaints"
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from black users.

https://techcrunch.com/2023/06/08/blueskys-growing-pains-strain-relationship-with-its-black-community-moderation/

apparently they even changed their policy basically to excuse racist behavior following an influential black creator receiving death threats.

  

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500. "bluesky's entire point is that they don't want to do moderation"
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and it's created by the kind of jak dorse cryptolibertarians who don't see color


so....you'll get what you get there

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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497. "bluesky halts signups due to twitter exodus."
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https://www.theverge.com/2023/7/1/23781417/bluesky-halted-sign-ups-joining-twitter

'signups' = spots on a waiting list where people have been waiting months to actually sign up.

they had a great opportunity giftwrapped to them but continue to fumble it.

not only with how slow they have been to scale to demand but just spending their time over-thinking and developing features that dont really appeal to the mass casual audience.

like concentrating on giving users the ability to moderate everything...including individual threads.
https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/25/23773130/decentralized-twitter-alternative-bluesky-has-published-a-moderation-manifesto

cool feature that a niche subgroup will appreciate. but the overwhelming majority just want a twitter clone where they can follow who they wanna follow and go back and forth with people on current events. start by getting that up and running for the public and then gradually build out from there.

  

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499. "It's officially become a completely unusable app"
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Great work, Elon.

  

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501. "looks like spill might be the move."
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...too bad i don't like iphones.

  

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502. "(meta/instagram) threads is releasing july 6th."
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F0JauSWX0AAlK9D?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

  

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503. "it looks like this will be the web interface."
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https://www.threads.net/

  

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504. "the logo even looks like an '@' "
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506. "threads launch moved up to 7pm today."
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https://www.threads.net/

  

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508. "im on threads and checking it out right now."
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i added the people i follow on ig with 1 click. that feature is so clutch.

it shows that im following those folks who are already on there. and for the others who arent on there yet...it shows pending.

no website up yet unfortunately.

  

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509. "accounts have profile pages on the web. but no timeline/feed up yet."
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507. "Twitter not suited for emergency communications, Dutch say"
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Twitter not suited for emergency communications, Dutch say

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/twitter-not-suited-emergency-communications-dutch-say-after-storm-2023-07-05/?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=Newsletter&utm_campaign=Technology-Roundup&utm_term=070523

AMSTERDAM, July 5 (Reuters) - Twitter is not the right place to seek information during an emergency, Dutch politicians and a prominent online group said on Wednesday, following an incident in which citizens were directed to the platform for updates during a large storm.

"We find it problematic that the government depends on Twitter for sharing crucial information," lawmaker Nico Drost's office said in emailed remarks to Reuters, citing accessibility, accountability and reliability issues.

Twitter could not immediately be reached for comment.

The storm, which killed at least one person and uprooted dozens of trees in the province of North Holland, which includes Amsterdam, was the most intense on record in the Netherlands during the summer.

The national emergency alert service sent a "push" notification to cellphones warning people in North Holland to stay indoors amid wind gusts of more than 120 kilometres per hour (75 miles per hour), and to follow the regional fire department's Twitter account for updates.

Several politicians and digital rights group Bits of Freedom said that was not appropriate, given that Twitter is a private company and the government has websites specifically set up for crisis communications.

"It's ridiculous to use Twitter," said Bits of Freedom spokesperson Ber Engels, citing problems with dis-information and Twitter being hard to reach quickly for people without accounts. He also noted the company had recently imposed limits on the number of tweets that can be viewed by anyone who hasn't paid for a subscription.

"You might see one tweet with great information from emergency services, but maybe there are 10 tweets that Twitter prioritizes which contain completely false information," he said.

The regional fire department's Twitter account is not verified. Its most recent tweet directs users to a live blog hosted on the City of Amsterdam's website.

Twitter's communication account did not immediately respond to questions. An email to Twitter's press email address generated an automatic poop emoji reply, in line with an announcement earlier this year by its boss Elon Musk.

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510. "zuckerberg said they did 5 million users in only 4 hours."
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https://www.threads.net/t/CuVxMmvLNsG/

wouldnt be surprised if they did 40-50 mil in 24 hours.

  

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512. "running from Twitter to a Meta app seems like hustling backwards"
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count me in as team 'no thanks to either'.

In general social media is in a weird spot right now. TikTok is super popular, but doesn't seem to actually uh... connect people? Reddit seems to be imploding. Most new 'alternative' platforms to any of the established platforms seems to quickly run into some of the major issues that plague FB, Twitter, Insta, etc. People nostalgic for MySpace and Tumblr...



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515. "elon made twitter so putrid that niggas are rooting for zuck lol."
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just a few minutes on threads shows how much the twitter algo got fucked up and flooded with bullshit when musk took over.

the threads algo promotes accounts on my timeline that mostly fit in with who i'm actually following and are relevant to shit i wanna see (like sports, fashion/culture, etc).

unlike musks twitter...meta constructed the app like a company that actually wants to retain users, keep them on the app as long as possible, and make a profit lol.

head of ig said theyre working to get chronological/following timelines, hashtags/searches, and dm up and running too. then web version some time after that.

there will really be no use for twitter at that point.

  

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521. "if you hate threads and want to leave though, you'd have to delete insta"
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is what I heard. So typical malevolent meta shit too.

But yeah, Twitter def shit now, so i see why people looking at other options.

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523. "ig head said they are gonna change that soon."
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i dont know if this was the aim but one benefit of it is to make sure no active instagram usernames get 'squatted' on threads.

  

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513. "wow zuck now says 30 mil. with about 7 hrs to go for a full day."
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https://www.threads.net/t/CuXCjGVrd6R/

i noticed a lot of the biggest celebs from ig still arent on there yet. so threads could hit 100 mil in a few days.

you could prolly stick a fork in twitter already at this point. they had 300 something mil total before elon trashed it. prolly much less daily active use at threads launch. they cant afford to bleed any users really with the way they already struggle to generate revenue.

  

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517. "btw the #1 trend on twitter is 'threads' with *4 million* recent tweets."
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musk gotta be punching the air.

dude spent $44 billion just to become yahoo tumblr.

  

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518. "you hate to see it"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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511. "Honestly, I should thank Elon. "
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He’s made his bird app unusable and in 48 short hours I’ve realized how little I need it.

I’m not saying I’m done and I’m not saying I won’t sign up for Threads or whatever other stupid app there might be but in the interim I’m very much enjoying being untethered from Twitter. It fucking rules.

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514. "twitter alternatives all sound unappealing as hell"
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to me twitter was already awful before elon. he's certainly made it worse, but the idea of any place for twitter refugees just sounds like an insufferable bubble

if threads is successful, i really hope there's not too much overlap with IG, since it's the one place I have curated to pretty much avoid most culture war bs.

Lemme go secure my username just in case tho

  

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516. "right wingers already bitching about bans, censorship, etc on threads."
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some of them already have a 'misinformation' disclaimer pop up when other people try to follow them (must carry over from ig).

these mfs cant just stay on the 'free speech' app and be happy because they hate talking to each other lol.

they just wanna be somewhere where they can annoy liberals, the left, etc.

  

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519. "It's a good sign"
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If they aren't complaining about something they are plotting something.

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520. "can I talk about Keke Palmer baby daddy in here or nah? "
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all that nigga had to do was post that boondocks clip to twitter and THEN step to her in private about feeling some kind of way.

tryin to think of the “losing recipes” equivalent for the Stedmans out here.

  

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525. "yeah i dont knock him for how he felt."
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i just dont know why he posted that shit publicly like cousin keke doesnt have a protective fanbase out there.

and honestly...youre not gonna get much sympathy on any criticism of your wife when youre a stay at home dad and she pays the bills lol.

  

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527. "she looks great"
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528. "definitely."
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the baby did her body good lol.

  

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530. "cousin keke for real"
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ol boy must have been at home FUMING cuz he shoulda known they was gonna get him. tweet of passion head ass.

  

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522. "will twitter sue threads?"
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can twitter even afford to pay their lawyers?

https://www.semafor.com/article/07/06/2023/twitter-is-threatening-to-sue-meta-over-threads

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524. "how it started vs how its going."
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not too long ago...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F0YRao8X0AAwhOS?format=jpg&name=900x900

  

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526. "lulz"
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532. "remember when elon said it was "lawsuit time!" about microsoft?"
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have they sued them yet?

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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529. "bluesky just had an $8 million round of seed funding."
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https://techcrunch.com/2023/07/05/bluesky-announces-its-8m-seed-round-first-paid-service-custom-domains/

they might as well gon head and return that back to the investors lol.

they just completely shit the bed with this thing. all people wanted was a twitter alternative with basic functionality to get things going. meta read the room and gave the people that. now they will build the app out with additional features that most people want. bluesky has spent their time developing shit like per thread moderation and custom (paid) domain names where the user has to have a working knowledge of tld registration and dns. all while having trouble scaling past 100k users after months of going live.

  

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531. "twitter is clearly scrubbing the 'threads' trend."
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like 200k tweets disappeared from the trend total in an hour while we are in the heaviest posting time of the day.

and the trend was filled with people posting their threads accounts, threads vs twitter memes, screenshots of celebs posting on threads, etc earlier. now its a bunch of tweets with low follower counts shitting on threads and supporting elon lol.

  

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533. "over 50 million threads sign ups in 24 hours."
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nothing official but people have posted their ig threads tags with their user number over the 50 million mark.

https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/v/t51.2885-15/358006395_982708353160143_9014539920280738265_n.jpg?stp=dst-jpg_e35&_nc_ht=scontent.cdninstagram.com&_nc_cat=103&_nc_ohc=1mjDu9D__s4AX-r8dIr&edm=APs17CUBAAAA&ccb=7-5&ig_cache_key=MzE0MTI2MjM2MjQzNDg1MjU5OQ%3D%3D.2-ccb7-5&oh=00_AfDpVWqHWeKoe_sYA75CQPMmlUKMlFjddCGZ53m4vMGsFA&oe=64AC73E0&_nc_sid=10d13b

  

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534. "bro childish af."
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https://www.threads.net/t/CufIePxv16v/?igshid=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==

  

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536. "part 2."
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https://www.threads.net/t/CugFAOsr0kW/?igshid=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ%3D%3D

  

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537. "Richest man in the world"
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He'd be the next Republican president if he could run.

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535. "twitter traffic falling off a cliff."
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https://www.threads.net/t/Cue0QR5LAV2/?igshid=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ%3D%3D

  

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538. "promoting tucker carlson interview with andrew tate."
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F0zBibtWAAE18dS?format=jpg&name=large

indicted rapist and sex trafficker (among other things).

and he wonders why millions of people are running to threads.

  

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549. "."
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539. "x.com now leads to Twitter. Rebranding to 'X'"
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Gonna have a logo today, say Elon.

This got "xvideos" trending on Twitter w/ ppl asking if that's what videos on the site are called now.

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540. "an already corny lame going through a midlife crisis "
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.Monkeynuts.
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541. "x.com now showing a parked domain page from godaddy."
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F1wxj1faUAAIayg?format=jpg&name=medium

  

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542. "Still going to Twitter for me"
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.Monkeynuts.
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543. "must be a dns issue."
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a ton of people on twitter are talking about the godaddy redirection.

https://twitter.com/search?q=x.com%20godaddy

  

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544. "Same. "
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545. "."
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547. "Waits for Xfinity to sue them for trademark infringement. "
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https://www.facebook.com/Xfinity/photos/a.490696389055/10162635740139056/


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548. "Waits for Xfinity to sue them for trademark infringement. "
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https://www.facebook.com/Xfinity/photos/a.490696389055/10162635740139056/


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550. "dude makes the weirdest choices "
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551. "Out of curiosity"
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how much of a problem with this be for businesses that use twitter APIs for notices/alerts?

I vaguely remember NYC MTA have a problem pushing service notifications through twitter when the Apartheid-American wanted to charge businesses to use twitter. I'll give him credit for at least reversing course on that matter.

Will this domain name change be an issue for API interface purposes?

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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552. "he's been trying to make x.com happen since I was in high school"
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I am an old man.

I think not enough people know that the reason you know who elon musk is, is because his idea for x.com was so bad, that the other dudes at PayPal paid him off to leave. he rolled that money into another thing, and rolled that into buying tesla nad pretending he started it.

I'd give him credit there for calling the EV transition early and sticking to his guns and recognizing that the big manufacturers would be slow / fuck it up horribly, but I can't because he's been wrong about essentially everything other than superchargers, which I can only assume were someone else's idea

because dude is horrifically stupid

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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546. "Your TWITTER account has been deleted, don't accept the X account"
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You're no longer on Twitter - you're on something NEW.

Find a spot, start a blog, get an email box, start a discord - and get the fuck off that Nazi loving site.

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553. "meta holds the trademark to 'x' for social networking services lol."
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https://www.businessinsider.com/meta-holds-rights-to-x-twitter-rebrand-elon-musk-2023-7

this dude cant do shit right can he?

funny cuz he was threatening(bullshitting) to sue to meta over threads.

meanwhile meta has a seemingly more legit case to take legal action against musk.

  

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554. "shit is like a Silicon Valley episode"
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Space Karen = a dumber, more egomaniacal Gavin Belson

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555. "my 'for you' feed is filled with black ppl defending jason aldean lol."
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with very little engagement on the actual tweets.

im sure the algorithm is picking these up organically and theyre not being manually promoted by a twitter/x employee or anything.

  

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556. "the funny thing is i used to see shit like this for ron desantis"
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whenever he would do/say something racist.

musk seems to be off that wave now.

  

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557. "There's thousands of these "new blacks" on Tiktok"
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558. "Did the COVID VACINNE attempy to MURDER Bronny James?"
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Richest man in the world who bought a social network is just asking questions y'll.

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/elon-musk-bronny-james-cardiac-arrest-antivax-1234794710/


Twitter fact check gets deleted:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/antoniopequenoiv/2023/07/25/twitter-deletes-fact-check-of-musk-connecting-bronny-james-cardiac-arrest-to-covid-vaccine/?sh=6b6c6aa43aa8

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559. "Musk took @x handle from its original user"
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Elon Musk and company take @x handle from its original user. He got zero dollars for it.

https://mashable.com/article/elon-musk-twitter-take-x-handle-from-original-user

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560. "that X is an eyesore "
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it looks like a business card for a shady escort service in a bad action movie.

  

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561. "It's so bad."
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562. "shit looks like a logo for gas station viagra"
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563. "LOL that's exactly right."
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567. "LOL"
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peace

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564. "twitter/x fails to send ad-revenue sharing payments."
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https://www.theverge.com/2023/8/4/23820859/x-twitter-ad-sharing-payment-unpaid-delay-elon-musk

  

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565. "Silicon Valley "Agile" projects VS. people's money"
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These "visionary" people are fucking idiots.

He expects people to depend on his apps with their real money??? GTFOH.

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566. "bluesky invites are being sent out"
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I got one today

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568. "they missed the boat."
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they had a good head start to really position themselves as the top twitter alternative.

but they have been extremely slow to scale. and theyve focused on the development of niche features to woo a small tech savvy subgroup of users instead of just hammering down the basics and growing the app first that way.

and their musk-like approach (or lack thereof) to content moderation only plays to a certain audience (basically the same audience musk caters to) and turns off the majority of folks looking for a social media home.



  

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569. "Yeah, It's about time to delete it. "
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Giving priority to anyone willing to pay for a blue check is the thing that kills it. The blue check is always a sign of a terrible tweet to come and it's always the first tweet you see.

And it's not just the For You tab which is always awful and designed to antagonize you, it seeps over into the folks you are following.

I really liked following writers, reporters, experts. I thought it was cool to be able to interact folks like Nikole Hannah-Jones and Annette Gordon-Reed and other folks I wouldn't meet otherwise, but these people can't block folks fast enough and get harassed to the point where they don't seem to be around as much.

The Israeli-Palestinian has been pretty terrible to try and gets news on the app. I am pretty sure the app is making things worst over there.

I really just want a really good news app that gives the best long form articles published that week and I would be happy and done with twitter altogether.

More well put with more words:

https://www.newyorker.com/culture/infinite-scroll/why-the-internet-isnt-fun-anymore




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570. "I really had thought they had hit a low last week"
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when people were actively mocking a video of a progressive dude getting stabbed to death in the street because he was a defund the police guy. Watching someone's terrifying last moments of life and all they saw it as an opportunity to dunk.

in this week's hold my beer moment I'm seeing people minimizing & rationalizing kidnapping gang rape and murder, with some version of yeah but do the terrorists have a point? Alot of these are the same type of people who will equate the words of a comedian or a college professor with literal violence

by this weekend it will be kicked up a notch on the other end when the sight of innoncent palestinian kids being blown to smithereens will be met with oh well fuck around and find out

I thought Twitter was already awful before elon. Now it's a toxic hellhole. It's really taking its toll on my opinion of humanity every time I open it. It's probably time to kill it or at least leave for the foreseeable future

  

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571. "Twitter users only down 15% overall (18% in the U.S)"
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Looks like he may be able to turn it around in a few years - if got much more toxic and most people didn't seem to care. Pretty much lines up with the result of the poll in this post too.

Can someone please blame a Democrat???

https://variety.com/2023/digital/news/musk-twitter-x-acquisition-one-year-user-revenue-decline-1235770297/

So how’s it going at X today? Not great, according to several indicators.

Millions of users, including several celebrities, have quit in the wake of Musk’s takeover and dramatic refashioning of Twitter. In September 2023, monthly active users for X/Twitter had dropped 15% worldwide (and 18% in the U.S.) year-over-year, according to web analytics provider SimilarWeb. Other third-party measures indicate a roughly similar decline; mobile daily active users dropped 16% on an annual basis in September 2023, to 183 million, according to Sensor Tower. Musk last month claimed that X has 550 million monthly active users, who share up to 200 million posts daily, but it’s unclear how that might compare to past measures. (As a public company, Twitter reported a metric it dubbed “monetizable daily active users”; Musk has repeatedly disparaged Twitter’s former methodology for reporting users and estimating spam/bot accounts.)

Advertising has shrunk even further. U.S. ad spending on X/Twitter by major ad agencies from September 2022-August 2023 dropped 54%, according to ad-analytics firm Guideline (via WSJ). Despite Musk’s promise to marketers that he would not turn Twitter into a “free-for-all hellscape,” advertisers have been wary of Musk’s mercurial decisions, including his move to reinstate thousands of formerly banned accounts (including Donald Trump’s), not to mention his own bizarre posts that at times have traded in conspiracy theories.

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574. "By what volume did utilization and time on site/app decrease?"
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In my house I account for 25% of the humans
I have 50% of the total body weight
And like 70% of the income
If our household decreased by 25% of house members, which 25% has a huge variation on a lot of different metrics

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575. "Dunno"
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But dude has a ton of money to burn.

And he's great at suckering folks into giving money for stupid things - the banks servicing the loan are losing billions, and I'm sure his techo-liberterian idiot friends are too.

This doesn't collapse, this could continue to shrink and bleed money - which he and his friends have TONS of.

I was hoping that more than half of "real people" would leave - but alas.

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572. "anyone going to start banking with X/Twitter?"
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Elon Musk gives X employees one year to replace your bank
https://www.theverge.com/2023/10/26/23934216/x-twitter-bank-elon-musk-2024

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573. "lmao.. this dude just freestyling on the mic"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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576. "I would bank with El Chapo before I banked with him"
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I can't imagine anybody with sense trusting Twitter with any financial information.

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577. "The Verge has this hilarious series of articles about twitter/x"
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https://www.theverge.com/c/23972308/twitter-x-death-tweets-history-elon-musk

https://www.theverge.com/c/features/23997510/twitter-jack-dorsey-workplace-extremely-softcore

https://www.theverge.com/c/features/23997516/harassment-twitter-sarah-jeong-canceled-social-change

https://www.theverge.com/c/features/23928461/best-tweets-archive-twitter-x-funny

https://www.theverge.com/c/features/23993135/twitter-breaking-news-history

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578. "Alex Jones back"
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579. "wasnt it on the anniversary of Sandy Hook too?"
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smh.

Elon is a fucking troll

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580. "is that true?"
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the Sandy Hook stuff was Elon's reasoning for keeping him off... because he had a child who died (child didn't get murdered and he didn't get harassed by people who said it never happened but whatever im sure it was painful).

The only thing I heard is they had one of those twitter space things where he told Alex the Sandy Hook stuff was "not cool", and Jones did a lot of denying which Elon probably bought because he's Elon

  

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581. "Dec 14 is the anniversary"
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https://boingboing.net/2023/12/09/elon-musk-to-allow-alex-jones-back-on-twitter-days-before-the-anniversary-of-the-sandy-hook-school-shooting.html

https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/12/media/elon-musk-x-conspiratorial-rabbit-hole/index.html



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582. "Close. He was reinstated on 12/10/23. SH was 12/14/12."
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583. "the Taliban is on there. Ayatollah is on there."
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honest to god truth is no one cares

  

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584. "Not only back, but had an event with Musk"
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https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/elon-musk-alex-jones-account-x-twitter-conspiracy-rcna129008

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Elon Musk steered X, formerly Twitter, into further controversy over the weekend when he brought back the accounts for conspiracy theorist Alex Jones and his InfoWars website, and then appeared in an audio chat with Republican presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy.

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After restoring Jones' accounts on Sunday, Musk joined him on Sunday for a three-hour Space (X’s version of an audio room, where anyone can listen to a group of speakers). The Space was hosted by Mario Nawfal, one of X’s leading Spaces influencers who has also been followed by allegations of bad business practices, and included Ramaswamy and the controversial influencer Andrew Tate, who is currently facing charges of human trafficking, rape and forming a criminal gang in Romania.

During the Space, Ramaswamy, who pushed conspiracy theories at Wednesday night's Republican debate, seemed to downplay criticisms of Jones.

According to X’s view metrics — which NBC News can’t independently verify — more than 9 million people listened to Sunday's Space. The primary topic of discussion was the alleged censorship of conservative viewpoints on big tech platforms, the same allegations that have fueled support for Musk and his leadership at X.

A representative for X did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

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585. "Not only back, but had an event with Musk"
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https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/elon-musk-alex-jones-account-x-twitter-conspiracy-rcna129008

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Elon Musk steered X, formerly Twitter, into further controversy over the weekend when he brought back the accounts for conspiracy theorist Alex Jones and his InfoWars website, and then appeared in an audio chat with Republican presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy.

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After restoring Jones' accounts on Sunday, Musk joined him on Sunday for a three-hour Space (X’s version of an audio room, where anyone can listen to a group of speakers). The Space was hosted by Mario Nawfal, one of X’s leading Spaces influencers who has also been followed by allegations of bad business practices, and included Ramaswamy and the controversial influencer Andrew Tate, who is currently facing charges of human trafficking, rape and forming a criminal gang in Romania.

During the Space, Ramaswamy, who pushed conspiracy theories at Wednesday night's Republican debate, seemed to downplay criticisms of Jones.

According to X’s view metrics — which NBC News can’t independently verify — more than 9 million people listened to Sunday's Space. The primary topic of discussion was the alleged censorship of conservative viewpoints on big tech platforms, the same allegations that have fueled support for Musk and his leadership at X.

A representative for X did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

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Gone: My Discogs collection for The Roots:
http://www.discogs.com/user/tomhayes-roots/collection

  

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588. "sadly I kinda wanna see this"
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not for 3 hours. Maybe 15 minutes. It's just the absurdity of that group of weirdo villains in one place

  

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589. "Links - and Andrew Tate was on the call, Vivek Ramaswamy, Michael Flynn"
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Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60Fxz-NL5hA

Summary: https://www.theverge.com/2023/12/11/23996605/elon-musk-alex-jones-unban-x-twitter-conspiracy-theory

On their live audio call on X, Musk asked Jones to explain his comments on Sandy Hook. “Denying the murders of children, that’s not cool, at all,” Musk said. “So just what exactly did you say and what is going on with that situation?”

Those answers are available in court records and would confirm that Jones did in fact deny the murders of children and promote the conspiracy theory that their families were actors. Instead, Musk allowed Jones to rewrite the story. Jones proceeded to misrepresent his own statements on Sandy Hook, falsely claiming he had largely been covering remarks made by “professors” and “school safety people.”

Later in the call, Musk and Jones were joined by an array of other speakers from the very-online circuit, including Republican presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy, conspiracy theorist and former Trump advisor Michael Flynn, US Representative Matt Gaetz (R-FL), VC and podcast host Jason Calacanis, and influencer Andrew Tate, who earlier this year was charged with rape and human trafficking.

Ramaswamy praised getting to know Jones as “eye opening” and supported his return to X. “There are people who have ... made some mistakes, said some things that were wrong, and said some other things that were dead right that nobody else was saying either,” he said of Jones.

Jones used portions of the call to rail against (and argue about the definition of) “globalists” and peppered in language about “world government” and “social credit scores.” Mostly, though, he spent a lot of time praising Musk. “I’m not kissing ass here,” Jones said. “Elon, you’ve got big ones, man, on every front.”

The unbanning of Jones comes less than a month after Musk endorsed tweets that promoted white nationalist viewpoints and antisemitic conspiracy theories. His remarks led to yet another wave of advertisers departing X in response, which Musk blamed on the media ignoring his “clarifications” on his point of view.

Jones tried to draw comparisons between himself and Musk as two men who, in his view, were both being unfairly targeted for their past remarks. “It’s just like they misrepresent what you say, take one little thing and twist it, then say you need to apologize for it and just keep hammering it and hammering it,” Jones said.

Musk has increasingly courted far-right influencers to X under the banner of allowing free speech and open conversations. As he’s done so, he’s also started to endorse and promote some of their ideas. In November, he replied to a tweet endorsing the antisemitic “great replacement” conspiracy, calling it the “actual truth.”

By the time Calacanis popped onto the X audio call, asking Jones to explain his Sandy Hook comments once again, both Musk and Jones had heard enough. “I’m not gonna live in Groundhog Day,” Jones said, refusing to discuss his remarks further. Musk chimed in later, “It was answered ... I think people will eventually get tired of you answering the question.”

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590. "my brief fascination went away. thank you though "
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people trying to rewrite Alex Jones is pretty fuckin gross, or people pretending the 10 or whatever out of his 6000 conspiracies having some merit if you squint enough means he's "actually right about alot".

but really if people could prove he's right 98% of the time, the Sandy Hook stuff is enough to wish the most painful of deaths on him.

It doesn't necessarily bother me that he's back on twitter but dude's a vile human

  

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591. "someone pointed out tesla models are named S, 3, X, Y"
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smh... mentally, he's a horny preteen...

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592. "I mean, he has pointed that out, a bunch of times"
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the only reason the 3 isn't E is because ford owns the trademark


www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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593. "SMH..."
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I just found out because I was watching a video about that billionaire, Mitch McConnell's sister in law, that drowned in her Tesla after backing into a pond....

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