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Like its okay to say, "yeah this dude is trash, we should lock him up and throw away the key but let's not loose sight of a bigger issue that is a root cause and can truly address this problem, no support for homeless people".
That's not that hard but what more often happens is rhetoric that sounds like a deflection that doesn't talk about the here and now present case.
And don't get me wrong, there are way to many homeless people on the streets too. Would love to see that dealt with.
But I do think we have to stop talking about these issues as Conservative Talking Points. Because if you talk to most people, these are the things on their mind and how they think about it. For right or wrong, fear mongering or not, it's where the "Conservative Talking Points" are more in sync with how most people think about these issues than the more progressive talking points.
If the news is that a kid who killed his grandma was on the streets to later beat the ish out of a helpless women no politician's response should be, "well this is an outlier and statistically less likely to happen now then it did 5 years ago", people want to hear, and I think rightfully so, "this dude needs to be in jail!"
Ya feel me?
>so... > >I don't know what to tell you about progressives except they >cite sources like these (key-word non-violent): > >https://www.jurist.org/news/2022/09/new-york-bail-reform-law-effective-not-linked-to-rise-in-crime-data-shows/ > >"Under the 2019 law, judges must release those charged with >misdemeanors or most nonviolent felonies on their own >recognizance or under “non-monetary conditions.” However, >for all violent felonies and some nonviolent felonies, like >sex offenses, judges can still set monetary bail. DCJS data >shows that 15 percent of people failed to return for trial in >2019; in 2o21, the figure decreased to 9 percent. For those >released on their own recognizance, re-arrest rates decreased >from 18 percent to 16 percent by 2021. > >In a statement, Supervising Attorney of the LAS Decarceration >Project Arielle Reid said the “numbers confirm what we’ve >known all along: bail reform has decreased jail populations, >kept communities intact and furthered public safety. Any claim >to the contrary doesn’t square with reality, and is merely >baseless fear mongering.” According to Reid, LAS and other >organizations will pursue further reforms in the state >legislature’s next session." > >I think the fact that you are bringing up conservative talking >points e.g. bail reform, progressives soft on crime, and not >80,000 homeless in NYC is the highest since the Great >Depression is showing that people are being swayed by the >fear-mongering. > >https://www.marketplace.org/2022/09/02/homelessness-in-new-york-city-is-being-compounded-by-inflation-high-rents/ > >Record numbers of homeless people (the ones disproportionately >committing random violent acts) but we are not discussing? We >are discussing progressives? > >Let's ship the homeless to red states! lol
********** "Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson
"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"
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