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stimuland
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"Dave Chappelle on Abortion (thoughts?)"


          

I think this joke went over a lot of people's heads. Is Dave Chappelle secretly a conservative?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoudH-RPnEE

  

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Where’s Ja?
Jun 24th 2022
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^^first pitch home run
Jun 24th 2022
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      yup
Jun 24th 2022
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What? That bit couldnt be clearer.
Jun 25th 2022
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right? if anything the first part is a stab at anti abortion folks.
Jun 25th 2022
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      RE: right? if anything the first part is a stab at anti abortion folks.
Jun 26th 2022
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If you have a dick you need to STFU on this one (c)
Jun 26th 2022
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the first joke is real af
Jun 27th 2022
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Great joke
Jun 27th 2022
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Bodily autonomy is human right. Neglecting your kids isn't.
Jun 27th 2022
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It's because - it's funny when women don't have rights
Jun 27th 2022
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Well 1) its a comedy show
Jun 27th 2022
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      1) So? The take is still there and still pretty bad.
Jun 27th 2022
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           do you understand how stand up comedy works?
Jun 27th 2022
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           Did you abandon any children lately?
Jun 27th 2022
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           Chappelle is not standing up for women who have abortions
Jun 27th 2022
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If you have a penis you don't really have much control
Jun 27th 2022
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is Dave Chapplle anti Sesame Street?
Jun 27th 2022
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lol
Jun 27th 2022
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yeah jokes jokes jokes but no one is required to pay child support
Jun 27th 2022
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So apparently this joke is STILL flying over people's heads
Jun 27th 2022
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I get it now - Women should NOT have autonomy over their bodies
Jun 27th 2022
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      That is Chappelle's argument, yes.
Jun 27th 2022
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lol
Jun 27th 2022
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Exactly lol
Jun 27th 2022
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Dave Chappelle does impressions of okayplayer
Jun 27th 2022
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i knew what it would be
Jun 27th 2022
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accurate
Jun 27th 2022
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I dare anyone to sit through the first 5 minutes of Delirious
Jun 27th 2022
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LMAO
Jun 27th 2022
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MEAT
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1. "Where’s Ja?"
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2. "^^first pitch home run"
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3. "yup"
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4. "What? That bit couldnt be clearer."
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5. "right? if anything the first part is a stab at anti abortion folks."
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specifically conservative men.

  

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stimuland
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6. "RE: right? if anything the first part is a stab at anti abortion folks."
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At first glance, yes, but he twists it at 1:12 by arguing that if a women can abort/abandon her kid lethally, then a man should also be able to abandon his kid by choosing not to pay child support if the baby is born.

He twists it AGAIN at the end by asking the audience to reflect: "If I'm wrong, then perhaps WE'RE wrong… figure that shit our for yourselves."

He is likening child abandonment to abortion. Both sides are in the wrong according to Chappelle.

It's a wonderfully layered joke.

  

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7. "If you have a dick you need to STFU on this one (c)"
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Sun Jun-26-22 08:30 AM by bentagain

  

          

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Despite my opinion...and that's okay
Why do ya'll wake up mad about Dave Chappelle?

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8. "the first joke is real af"
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because people will be pro life like a muhhhfukka until they find out who the baby is with.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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Cenario
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9. "Great joke"
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His points seems pretty obvious.

Women should have the option and choice to abort. Its 100% their decision. If they decide to keep, the man should have the choice of whether to be financially responsible or not.

Why are folks confused?

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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10. "Bodily autonomy is human right. Neglecting your kids isn't."
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Why are the two issues being brought up alongside each other in the first place? Are we bargaining? "Y'all can have abortions as long as we don't have to be financially responsible for the consequences of impregnating someone" or something to that effect?

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11. "It's because - it's funny when women don't have rights"
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Don't you see that's what the majority of posters here believe??

And certainly Dave finds it hilarious to cause that reaction.

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12. "Well 1) its a comedy show"
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2)And this statement is wrong

Y'all can have abortions as long as we don't have to be financially responsible for the consequences of impregnating someone" or something to that effect?

Per Chappelle's bit, abortion should be a women's choice. men should zip it on the issue. The 'bargaining' coming into play is in regards to a mother CHOOSING to have a baby.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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13. "1) So? The take is still there and still pretty bad."
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Saying women should have the right to decide what happens to their bodies is decent. It's an acknowledgment of basic human rights. Great job, Dave Chapelle.

Trying to tie that basic human right to the issue of child support, and saying stuff "my money, my choice" makes him sound like a run of the mill MRA that doesn't quite understand that "not having to pay for shit" isn't a human right.

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14. "do you understand how stand up comedy works?"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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17. "Did you abandon any children lately?"
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21. "Chappelle is not standing up for women who have abortions"
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By comparing child abandonment to abortion he is arguing that BOTH sides are morally wrong.

"If I'm wrong, then perhaps WE'RE wrong… figure that shit our for yourselves."

The joke is on anyone who applauded him initially.

  

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15. "If you have a penis you don't really have much control"
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Mon Jun-27-22 11:33 AM by Adwhizz

  

          

over what happens post ejaculation.

If you actually wanted to have a child and they decide to terminate the pregnancy (a right that needs to be protected) there's not really much you can do about it besides be mad and stop associating with that person/go make another baby with someone else who actually wants one.

If you don't want a child and they decide to give birth/not give up the child for adoption (whether due to their own choice or familial pressure), welp you fucked up and have to come up off that money/time for at least 18 years

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16. "is Dave Chapplle anti Sesame Street?"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUmYGLIubho

Dave Chappelle calls out Pepe's toxiic masculinity and rape culture

Dave Chappelle tries to cancel Pepe Le Pew

Dave Chaapplle calls out public callousness towards the unhoused

Dave Chappelle apparently thinks homelessness is something to joke about

Dave Chappelle apparently thinks "pimp" violence against women is a laughing matter

Dave Chappelle apparently thinks drug addiction is something to joke about

Dave Chappelle apparently thinks cookie related eating disorders are funny

etc...

  

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18. "lol"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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19. "yeah jokes jokes jokes but no one is required to pay child support"
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that is another legal hoop jumping process the requires paternity tests and court orders

it has to be pursued... not everyone is pursuing... not all who pursue are women...

and like all the other legal nonsense going on these past weeks, it is about a type of control

taking choices away from the most vulnerable...

and punishing those with the financial means to be single parents by shaming them in other ways

  

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20. "So apparently this joke is STILL flying over people's heads"
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Mon Jun-27-22 01:40 PM by stimuland

          

Chappelle is arguing that if a women can abort/abandon her kid lethally, then a man should also be able to abandon his kid by choosing not to pay child support if the baby is born.

"If I'm wrong, then perhaps WE'RE wrong… figure that shit our for yourselves."

Translation: If you think he's WRONG for not wanting to pay child support, then perhaps a mother is also wrong for not wanting to keep her kid.

Morally, he is likening child abandonment to abortion.

The joke is on the pro-choice people who initially applauded the first part of his joke.

  

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22. "I get it now - Women should NOT have autonomy over their bodies"
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..and if they do then they are as bad as men who abandon their children.

>The joke is on the pro-choice people who initially applauded the first part of his joke

So women, or their control of their body ARE the joke. Got it!

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23. "That is Chappelle's argument, yes."
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24. "lol"
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shouldn't be funny but, it is

  

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25. "Exactly lol"
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Politics aside, it's a damn good joke.

  

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26. "Dave Chappelle does impressions of okayplayer "
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https://youtu.be/2MZZ__5F_-A

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27. "i knew what it would be"
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but clicked anyway lol

  

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28. "accurate"
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29. "I dare anyone to sit through the first 5 minutes of Delirious "
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30. "LMAO"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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