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BUFFALO, N.Y. (AP) — A gunman opened fire with a rifle Saturday at a supermarket in Buffalo, New York, in what authorities called a “hate crime and racially motived violent extremism,” killing 10 people and wounding three others before being taken in custody, law enforcement officials said.

The suspect was identified as Payton Gendron of Conklin, about 200 miles southeast of Buffalo in New York state, two law enforcement officials told The Associated Press. The officials were not permitted to speak publicly on the matter and did so on the condition of anonymity. The suspect was being questioned Saturday evening by the FBI, one of the officials said.

Officials said 11 of the victims are Black and two are white. The shooting happened in a predominantly Black neighborhood a few miles (kilometers) north of downtown Buffalo.

THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. AP’s earlier story follows below.

BUFFALO, N.Y. (AP) — A gunman wearing military-style clothing and body armor opened fire with a rifle at a supermarket in Buffalo, New York, killing at least 10 people before being taken into custody Saturday afternoon, law enforcement officials told The Associated Press.


Details on the number of additional people shot at the Tops Friendly Market and their conditions weren’t immediately available. The two officials were not permitted to speak publicly on the matter and did so on the condition of anonymity. The suspect was being questioned Saturday evening by the FBI, one of the officials said.

Investigators believe the gunman may have been streaming the shooting through a camera affixed to his helmet, one of the officials said. The video showed the gunman, dressed in military gear, pulling up to the front of the store with a rifle on the front seat and then pointing the rifle at people in the parking lot as he exited the vehicle and opening fire, the official said.

It also shows the suspect walking into the supermarket and shooting several other victims inside, the official said. One of the victims was a recently retired police officer who was working as a security guard at the store, according to the official.

One of the officials cautioned the investigation was in its preliminary stages and that authorities hadn’t yet discerned a clear motive, but were investigating whether the shooting was racially motivated.

The supermarket is in a predominately Black neighborhood, about 3 miles (5 kilometers) north of downtown Buffalo. The surrounding area is primarily residential, with a Family Dollar store and fire station near the store.

Buffalo police confirmed the shooter was in custody in a tweet, but did not identify the suspect. Police officials did not immediately respond to messages from the AP seeking comment.

Witnesses reported the gunman was wearing military-style clothing in addition to the body armor, one of the officials said

Braedyn Kephart and Shane Hill, both 20, pulled into the parking lot just as the shooter was exiting. They described him as a white male in his late teens or early twenties sporting full camo, a black helmet and what appeared to be a rifle.

“He was standing there with the gun to his chin. We were like what the heck is going on? Why does this kid have a gun to his face?” Kephart said. He dropped to his knees. “He ripped off his helmet, dropped his gun, and was tackled by the police.”

At the White House, Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre said President Joe Biden is receiving regular updates on the shooting and its aftermath.

“The president has been briefed by his Homeland Security advisor on the horrific shooting in Buffalo, N.Y., this afternoon. He will continue to receive updates throughout the evening and tomorrow as further information develops,” she said, adding the president and first lady were praying for the victims and their loved ones.

Tops Friendly Markets released a statement saying, “We are shocked and deeply saddened by this senseless act of violence and our thoughts and prayers are with the victims and their families.”

Police closed off the block, lined by spectators, and yellow police taped surrounded the full parking lot. Mayor Byron Brown and Erie County Executive Mark Poloncarz were at the scene late Saturday afternoon, gathered in a parking lot across the street from the Tops store and expected to address the media.

More than two hours of the shooting, Erica Pugh-Mathews was waiting outside the store, behind the police tape.

“We would like to know the status of my aunt, my mother’s sister. She was in there with her fiance, they separated and went to different aisles,” she said. “A bullet barely missed him. He was able to hide in a freezer but he was not able to get to my aunt and does not know where she is. We just would like word either way if she’s OK.”

Gov. Kathy Hochul tweeted that she was “closely monitoring the shooting at a grocery store in Buffalo,” her hometown. She said state officials have offered help to local authorities. The Erie County Sheriff’s Office said on social media that it ordered all available personnel to assist Buffalo police.

Attorney General Merrick Garland was briefed on the shooting, Justice Department spokesperson Anthony Coley said.

The shooting came little more than a year after a March 2021 attack at a King Soopers grocery in Boulder, Colorado, that killed 10 people. Investigators have not released any information about why they believe the man charged in that attack targeted the supermarket.


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RE: terrorist drives 3.5 hours to shoot up supermarket in Buffalo, NY (S...
May 14th 2022
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Fox News, OANN, bitch ass Tucker radicalizing these devils
May 14th 2022
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Scumbag lived in a nice house….
May 14th 2022
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What will it take for these people to get punished?
May 14th 2022
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Like dylan roof, he's trying to spark his peers. Those who want no more....
May 14th 2022
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WHY DO WHITE SHOOTERS GET TAKEN INTO CUSTODY?!
May 15th 2022
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YOU KNOW WHY
May 17th 2022
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How the evil empire began
May 15th 2022
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Gunman targeted black neighborhood shaped by segregation
May 15th 2022
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This makes me so especially angry thinking about how much energy
May 15th 2022
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They are so much better at branding. And their audience eats up
May 15th 2022
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      Most of their audience is inbred low IQ hicks
May 15th 2022
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      It's not that hard to convince people of shit they already
May 16th 2022
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      It's not branding. It's stuff they want to hear and are inclined to bel...
May 16th 2022
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           It takes branding to package those beliefs into an easily shared
May 16th 2022
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           its most definitely branding
May 16th 2022
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                I'm not saying they don't have brand or do branding, I am reacting to
May 16th 2022
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                     Gotcha - definitely agree.
May 16th 2022
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                     I almost agree with everything you are saying
May 16th 2022
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                     the inability to be shamed is damn near a super power
May 16th 2022
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                          the Biden "ultra MAGA" thing this week was depressingly hilarious
May 17th 2022
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Now Orange County, CA
May 15th 2022
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they know Fox, NewsMax, and OAN and Elon's Twitter are not going...
May 15th 2022
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His manifesto hit the streets
May 15th 2022
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CIA back to doing its thing.
May 16th 2022
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huh?
May 16th 2022
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      These shooters are probably being recruited and groomed online....
May 17th 2022
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just saw all but one of the deceased were over 50 years old.
May 16th 2022
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any white people die? Read a few assholes try to use a white victim
May 16th 2022
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i believe 2 white people were killed.
May 16th 2022
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and one of the dead was a security guard who exchanged gunfire, he was
May 16th 2022
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not sure if true but i heard he hit him...
May 16th 2022
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      He hit him but he had a plates
May 16th 2022
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correction: all 10 of the deceased were black. this Ruth Whitfield story...
May 17th 2022
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He had the word "nigger" painted on his gun...
May 16th 2022
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HE HAD A MANIFESTO
May 16th 2022
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man, we're talking about these people
May 16th 2022
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      nevermind.
May 17th 2022
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           yea its the fist thing it had reminded me of
May 17th 2022
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                it fits with this situation as well because the will continue
May 17th 2022
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Are there really people saying it's not racially motivated?
May 17th 2022
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      its the internet so of course they exist.. smh
May 17th 2022
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he intentionally attacked eldery people because he know younger folks...
May 17th 2022
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This will keep happening cuz they are surviving it
May 17th 2022
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A major reason for wanting to keep them alive
May 17th 2022
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exactly.
May 17th 2022
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Death is a release, I hope that Fool lives to be 102
May 17th 2022
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      He already made his requirements for
May 17th 2022
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He talked a lot of shit about this being his last day on Earth, too
May 17th 2022
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      Nah
May 17th 2022
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           Yeah, I have a hard time seeing how his family isn't complicit.
May 18th 2022
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           A cousin is blaming covid and paranoia
May 18th 2022
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                and killing older Black folk grocery shopping was the cure to his parano...
May 18th 2022
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                     They throwing everything at the wall
May 18th 2022
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                     i guess that's how Tucker and them spin this one into 'the left'
May 18th 2022
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           Timmy is fine.. he’s just having fun
May 18th 2022
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           Here's a NYT story about his parents...
May 18th 2022
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                Damnnnnn
May 18th 2022
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                I often wonder if giving your teenagers complete privacy is good or bad
May 18th 2022
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                That’s what I was referring to above
May 18th 2022
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My wife just told me that’s where her cousin shops
May 17th 2022
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Maybe because I live a couple hours down the Thruway…
May 17th 2022
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I've decided I would pop off if I ever saw him.
May 18th 2022
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The timing of Yung Thug’s RICO indictment is interesting
May 18th 2022
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1. "RE: terrorist drives 3.5 hours to shoot up supermarket in Buffalo, NY (S..."
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2. "Fox News, OANN, bitch ass Tucker radicalizing these devils"
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So sick of this shit. Blood is on all their hands. Why the fuck is Tucker still breathing?

  

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3. "Scumbag lived in a nice house…."
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but was radicalized into believing he had it bad. Fuck Tucker Carlson.

http://twitter.com/andrewdonovan/status/1525640845591986176?s=21&t=qC-h4UFZAc2GAjHkBeI_sA

  

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4. "What will it take for these people to get punished?"
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Why haven't the Boogaloo Boys, Oath Keepers, Proud Boys, American Identity Movement faced RICO charges?

What does the system think will happen if one group of people continues to get away with killing members of black society? Not letting this murderer off by referring to him as radicalized. He was an adult that is fully aware of his actions.

For those wondering this crime reeks of incidents Boogaloo Boys hope for. Not blaming them but it's something they legit wish for.

No empathy for white misery (c) BDot

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5. "Like dylan roof, he's trying to spark his peers. Those who want no more...."
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...of that stuff Elon and his partners bought Twitter for now step up.

  

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6. "WHY DO WHITE SHOOTERS GET TAKEN INTO CUSTODY?!"
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41. "YOU KNOW WHY"
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7. "How the evil empire began "
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is how it will end.

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8. "Gunman targeted black neighborhood shaped by segregation "
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https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/14/nyregion/east-side-buffalo-shooting.html

  

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9. "This makes me so especially angry thinking about how much energy"
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we have spent talking about the boogie man of CRT when Major Media Outlets and Politicians can talk about Replacement Theory without repercussion.

God I would love to catch Tucker Carlson.

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11. "They are so much better at branding. And their audience eats up"
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every sound bite phrase they put out there, whether it’s the “Great Replacement”, “reverse racism”, “tax and spend”, “fake news”, “socialism = communism”, “the big lie”or if they are co-opting and bastardizing progressive terms like CRT, BLM, or antifa…

  

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13. "Most of their audience is inbred low IQ hicks "
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Pretty easy bunch to manipulate.

  

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15. "It's not that hard to convince people of shit they already"
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want to believe.

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16. "It's not branding. It's stuff they want to hear and are inclined to bel..."
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What they do is take the good points that progressives make and turn them on their head and make them acts on them. "You are the Real Racist!"

My big gripe is we too often engage these debates and discussions like they are good faith discussions when they are not. We legitimize so much of what they say by taking the time to debate them.

IDK what the proper response in the face of it. I just want folks to be able to recognize it for what it is.

We should never have debated whether Obama was born in the US, we should have from day one said that's racist as fuck.


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17. "It takes branding to package those beliefs into an easily shared"
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concept that then gets amplified in their echo chambers. Oversimplifying and just throwing anything they don’t like into that brand category.

And completely agree on the Obama argument. It was at that point they realized they could literally throw any crazy conspiracy theory out there and progressives would legitimize it by arguing it point for point as if it wasn’t completely disingenuous to start with.

  

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18. "its most definitely branding"
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Fox News has packaged this shit up and served it like its real news and not opinions

Hell, even their business channel is mostly propaganda with a stock ticker in the corner. The “radicalized left” is responsible for inflation”

what????

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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19. "I'm not saying they don't have brand or do branding, I am reacting to "
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"they are BETTER at branding".

That's falling into the very trap I am describing. It's not a matter of, if progressives and democrats were better at branding, we could somehow beat their racist branding.

We can't beat these people with better branding or better arguments. You can expose their hypocrisy and they either move the goal post or shrug because they don't give a shit.

They made this whole big thing about how a President in the last year in office shouldn't be able to nominate a supreme court justice. And we took that argument at face value and argued it up and down and debated it on the merits. Then when they were in the exact same position, they shrugged and just appointed who they wanted.

They were the pro cop party until insurrectionist started beating cops on the head.

The pro gun rights party until Philando Castile was shot with his legally owned gun.

They get to call themselves the pro-life party but they are for the death penalty and cops shooting black people.

You could say people buy into these lies because they are better and branding but I am saying people buy into because it aligns with their beliefs and makes them feel good about their own shitty ideas.

There isn't any amount of branding and marketing that will somehow make them no longer racist.


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20. "Gotcha - definitely agree."
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Great points.

  

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24. "I almost agree with everything you are saying"
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def think think they are better at it than Dems but yeah.. no matter how Dems/MSNBC packages their shit it wont stop these nuts.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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25. "the inability to be shamed is damn near a super power "
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they'll only ever feel shame from their own side.
Like when Ted Cruz called January 6th a terrorist attack and had to go on Fox and self-flagellate for it.

  

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47. "the Biden "ultra MAGA" thing this week was depressingly hilarious"
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How are you going to even fix your lips to say that phrase and not realize the people you're criticizing with that phrase are just going to think it sounds like a cool upgrade they wish they could buy for their COD Warzone character?


They were printing up the t-shirts and co-opting the slogan seconds after he said it and they know what he meant when he said it and don't care. Same with Let's Go Brandon, where they're getting shamed for saying it because it's legitimately childish (just say Fuck Joe Biden) but it just doesn't matter because their shame is less important than your big mad energy. If you're mad, how can they be ashamed?


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12. "they know Fox, NewsMax, and OAN and Elon's Twitter are not going..."
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...to be viewed as "free speech" anymore, so....now they just want to follow through on all the "speech"

Cause, NO ONE will view Fox, Newsmax, and OAN as "speech" anymore.


Not if they keep acting on all the "speech"

  

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14. "His manifesto hit the streets"
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38 pages are devoted to body armor...

Until a mod clears someone to post it, don't post it

Treating this seriously like fm 2003, that white supremacist field training manual.

No empathy for white misery (c) BDot

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21. "CIA back to doing its thing."
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22. "huh?"
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34. "These shooters are probably being recruited and groomed online...."
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...to carry out these shootings. Kinda like Remy off Higher Learning, except it's probably not a couple of broke neo nazis doing the work, but rather someone with time, money and resources. Like alleged here:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/family-fbi-knew-oklahoma-bomb-plot-suspect-is-schizophrenic/

Just a thought.

  

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23. "just saw all but one of the deceased were over 50 years old. "
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and most were over 60.

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26. "any white people die? Read a few assholes try to use a white victim"
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as proof it wasn’t racially motivated.

like all the Black victims were just a coincidence.

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27. "i believe 2 white people were killed."
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but i also heard he trained his gun on a couple white people who were trying to hide and then apologized to them.

so, it's not unreasonable to assume the 2 white people who died were not intended victims.

i mean, we all know why he went there. he wanted to kill black people.

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28. "and one of the dead was a security guard who exchanged gunfire, he was"
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a retired police officer.

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29. "not sure if true but i heard he hit him..."
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but the shooters body armor...

which is why there's a lot of talk about the body armor aspect of this whole thing now.

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31. "He hit him but he had a plates "
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he had a plate carrier and plates along with a ballistic helmet.

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43. "correction: all 10 of the deceased were black. this Ruth Whitfield story..."
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hitting me hard today:

Ruth Whitfield went to visit her husband every day in the nursing home where's lived for eight years, one of her sons, Garnell Whitfield, a former Buffalo fire chief, told reporters.

He said he doesn’t know how to tell his father that his primary caretaker is gone.

from here:

https://abcnews.go.com/US/relatives-buffalo-shooting-victim-ruth-whitfield-break-tears/story?id=84752163&cid=social_twitter_abcn



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30. "He had the word "nigger" painted on his gun..."
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He was live streaming the whole thing and the word was plain to see.

https://www.businessinsider.com/buffalo-shooting-suspect-had-n-word-written-on-gun-2022-5

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32. "HE HAD A MANIFESTO"
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what the fuck else do they want as proof it was racially motivated??

  

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33. "man, we're talking about these people "
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44. "nevermind."
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just saw the date.

point taken though.

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46. "yea its the fist thing it had reminded me of "
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not only the instinctual need to dismiss that the Roof shooting wasn't racial...

but the going on about how absurd it is to people to even assume it was racially motivated just because he's white and they're black.. that we shouldn't jump to conclusions about the shooter's motivation before we have all the facts..

which even in itself wouldn't have been as bad if they didn't call their fucking segment 'Attack on Faith' and bring in their token pastor to try to sell it.

  

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52. "it fits with this situation as well because the will continue"
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lying about the motivation no matter how obvious. they're good at creating narratives.

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35. "Are there really people saying it's not racially motivated?"
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I hear a lot of people going off on that claim but haven't seen the claim anywhere (not including anime profile pic twitter accounts).


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45. "its the internet so of course they exist.. smh"
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but its the same who say stuff like “if the race was reversed the leftist media would make sure not to..”

I haven’t seen where any white people were killed.

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36. "he intentionally attacked eldery people because he know younger folks..."
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might shoot back and fuck him up, pulling up at a supermarket during that day, why not pull up to the club at night coward?

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37. "This will keep happening cuz they are surviving it"
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The biggest deterrent for some other snotty 18 year old to copy this is if he saw this dude get riddled with bullets

but instead, they are politely handcuffed, taken away and given a fair trial..

these kids are fucking cowardly punks. they don't want to die. they want to do this shit and live to feel good about it and watch the fall out

but alas, we live in white supremacist police state that isn't the least bit interested in killing other white supremacists most of the time

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38. "A major reason for wanting to keep them alive"
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is to hear them explain the why and get a full vision of where and from who they were influenced.

But when these pieces of shit publish 100+ page manifestos ahead of time they are doing that work for us.

So yeah. Fill 'em with bullets.

  

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39. "exactly."
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40. "Death is a release, I hope that Fool lives to be 102"
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and spends every last one of those days in a Federal, Pound me in the ass, prison

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42. "He already made his requirements for"
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the Aryan Brotherhood

  

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48. "He talked a lot of shit about this being his last day on Earth, too"
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He had three targets picked out. Multiple weapons with multiple ammo types for a prolonged attack. Wrote about suicidal thoughts leading up to the day because of his guilt over lying to his family about what he was up to, and how he expected to die an extremely violent death and WANTED it to be violent to make a point about the movement (I haven't seen what he thought that point was, maybe he never figured that out).


Then he gets down to it and like most cowards who are really just trying to make a name for themselves and live in infamy, he gets on his hands and knees and preps for a lifetime of fan letters and prison beatings.


More about the family coming out makes it pretty clear he had a fairly hands off, suburban, everything'll turn out OK 'cause he's a white guy upbringing. He wrote about playing off his parents' guilt over his depression and being able to use that to, uh, convince them he was still going to school? About how he stored his weapons and ammo for months in his room and even his siblings didn't ever notice them? How he was in some weird silver coin trading ring to make the money for his ammo and nobody was ever like, "Yo Payton, what's up with all the coins?"


His parents might not have played a significant role in what their kid set out to do, but it's probably an even worse look that they were housing this kid and just presumed he was the same generic failson their friends were raising and didn't notice any of the weird shit he was up to. I felt relatively free to get up to shit as a kid but even my parents knew when to drop some subtle nod they knew what dumb thing I was doing on the internet or whatever to shame me into stopping or realizing I'd have always been embarrassed to be doing it if somebody I knew knew what it was. It's starting to sound like this kid got to do absolutely whatever he wanted with his day between waking up and falling asleep and his parents just assumed it'd be uninteresting to them.


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51. "Nah"
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He wore a hazmat suit to school and made a threat a year ago. His family had to be blind to miss what he was doing, even if it was a hands off approach.

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54. "Yeah, I have a hard time seeing how his family isn't complicit. "
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Which can take the form of dirlection of duty or willful ignorance. But I don't think you grow up with that much anger with black people without hearing it in your home.

After the school incident, the family had a responsibility to figure out what the heck he was up to. What sites he was visiting. What he was doing with his own money or money they gave him.

I think they should really look into what was going on in that household.


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56. "A cousin is blaming covid and paranoia "
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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/buffalo-shooting-payton-gendron-covid-b2080541.html

"Sandra Komoroff, a cousin of the suspect's mother said she believed Covid-19 and the paranoia surrounding it fuelled..."

“He was very paranoid about getting Covid, extremely paranoid, to the point that his friends were saying he would wear the hazmat suit ,” Ms Komoroff, 68, told The New York Post.

“And then he got Covid just a few weeks ago... He went to family functions with a respirator mask on. He totally wasn’t going to get Covid and then he got Covid,” she added.

Ms Komoroff claimed that although their family has been vaccinated against the coronavirus infection, Mr Gendron “bought into the fear of Covid”.

“That’s the only way to say it. And when you’re home all day on the internet, you’re missing out on human contact. There’s a lot of emotions and a lot of body language you’re not getting when you see their face,” she said.

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59. "and killing older Black folk grocery shopping was the cure to his parano..."
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61. "They throwing everything at the wall"
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62. "i guess that's how Tucker and them spin this one into 'the left'"
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lefties with their covid hysterics and masks, mixed with CRT making him believe he was a white oppressor drove him to this violent paranoia.

  

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55. "Timmy is fine.. he’s just having fun"
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58. "Here's a NYT story about his parents..."
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I'm looking at them mad sideways after reading his.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2022/05/17/payton-gendron-parents-buffalo-shooting/

  

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60. "Damnnnnn"
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>I'm looking at them mad sideways after reading his.


Definitely

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63. "I often wonder if giving your teenagers complete privacy is good or bad"
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my mother in law was like “when your kids are teens.. you better snoop around their room”

damn… but at the same time, I mean… while under my roof I can’t have my kids hiding in plane sight. If something feels off I’m invading all that privacy.

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64. "That’s what I was referring to above"
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Didn’t mean they get a pass at all, I meant that they clearly turned a blind eye to everything he was doing at BEST and that’s still a terrible job of parenting a kid that was doing the goofy shit he was doing, let alone me trying to sneak down to the heater closet after midnight to smoke weed thinking the smell would stay trapped down there

If I were ever a parent I’d imagine myself being pretty hands off but this story just reads like willful neglect of parental duties because they couldn’t imagine their perfect suburban lives resulting in all that, not THEIR little Payton

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49. "My wife just told me that’s where her cousin shops"
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Thankfully she wasn’t there that day.

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50. "Maybe because I live a couple hours down the Thruway…"
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but I’m not sure I’ve ever been more angry over a “news” story. I want to see Tucker Carlson.

  

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53. "I've decided I would pop off if I ever saw him."
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I got no record. I think I could avoid jail time, and I'd say he whispered the n word at me. It would be worth it.


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57. "The timing of Yung Thug’s RICO indictment is interesting "
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I’m don’t see the difference
Fucker Carlson and Trumpster are catalysts for mass shootings
They’re being quoted in the manifestos
They should get those RICO charges too IMO.

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