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rdhull
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"ngl, gonna miss Ellen"


  

          

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Ellen Cleghorne?
May 12th 2022
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lmao
May 12th 2022
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edit: ahh ok lol
May 12th 2022
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RE: edit: ahh ok lol
May 12th 2022
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      looks like it worked.. lol
May 13th 2022
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      wrong..once again
May 13th 2022
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           oh, someone else picked up the show?
May 13th 2022
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      who is they? she did it to herself. toxic work environments kill shit qu...
May 13th 2022
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           ^they
May 13th 2022
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                Lmao
May 13th 2022
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                lol
May 13th 2022
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                howls
May 14th 2022
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ngl, I finally realized what "ngl" stands for
May 13th 2022
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Is nerl
May 13th 2022
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      RE: Is nerl
May 13th 2022
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      Noone ever really leaves.
May 13th 2022
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           ^
May 17th 2022
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Still not convinced there wasn't a corporate conspiracy to get her
May 13th 2022
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But then again it was on for 19 years...
May 13th 2022
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whisper? seems like they were shouting for it last year
May 13th 2022
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I don't think so
May 13th 2022
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both things can be true
May 13th 2022
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      Lol k
May 14th 2022
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wait 'til we kill your show
May 13th 2022
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Oh and what was this conspiracy exactly?
May 13th 2022
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      The conspiracy would be that it was all a contract negotiation
May 14th 2022
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           What ?
May 14th 2022
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           I mean look at the article.
May 16th 2022
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                remember when I asked for details about Savage?
May 18th 2022
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                It's Hollywood I wouldn't put anything past them.
May 18th 2022
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           cause white women have a long history of being kind and fair?
May 15th 2022
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What’s to miss? I hope the rest of her life is fucking miserable
May 13th 2022
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Comedians are usually dark af in real life
May 14th 2022
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built her whole career off being nice, funny and silly
May 16th 2022
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its prolly draining af to be nice, silly and funny on camera all day
May 16th 2022
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handle
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1. " Ellen Cleghorne?"
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I hope she's okay!

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2. "lmao"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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Mynoriti
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3. "edit: ahh ok lol"
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her show's ending. don't think i've ever watched. my mom likes it tho

for some reason i thought she got knocked off the air a while back

  

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rdhull
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4. "RE: edit: ahh ok lol"
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>her show's ending. don't think i've ever watched. my mom
>likes it tho
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>for some reason i thought she got knocked off the air a while
>back


they tried

  

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6. "looks like it worked.. lol"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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rdhull
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7. "wrong..once again"
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12. "oh, someone else picked up the show? "
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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Damali
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8. "who is they? she did it to herself. toxic work environments kill shit qu..."
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I don't speak to provoke. I speak because I think our time is short and each moment that we are not our truest selves, and we say what we do not mean because we imagine that is what somebody wants us to say, is wasting our time on this Earth - C. Adichie

  

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9. "^they "
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rdhull
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10. "Lmao"
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16. "lol"
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Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

  

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25. "howls"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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flipnile
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5. "ngl, I finally realized what "ngl" stands for"
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Thought it was something else for the longest

  

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rdhull
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11. "Is nerl "
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Never ever really left? If so I just got that a few weeks ago lol

  

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17. "RE: Is nerl "
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leaves

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20. "Noone ever really leaves."
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It's a dated reference to N.E.R.D.

  

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33. "^"
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13. "Still not convinced there wasn't a corporate conspiracy to get her"
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off air.

It was entirely a whisper campaign.


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14. "But then again it was on for 19 years..."
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3,284 episodes.

Over the 19 years imagine that her salary has steadily increased.

Sometimes its cheaper to let someone go then to keep paying for it.

And 19 years ago she attracted a different viewer mix than she used to - think older.

Being on for this long is fairly rare.

Note:
I can't wait for Bill Maher to finally go away too - just because he's been on for too long and not providing a lot of value.

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15. "whisper? seems like they were shouting for it last year"
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when the toxic workplace stuff came out.

might have been 2 years ago, time flies when you get older

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18. "I don't think so"
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I think she just got caught up in the peak of "cancel culture" and said fuck it not worth the fight or stress. Has Jack Davey spoken about it? She worked there prior to blowing up from this site and going on to work with Prince and Quest. Being a dick boss doesn't seem like a canceable offence, if it's even true. People being offended by bosses sometimes is just a POV or hurt feelings over the stresses of the job. Being offended doesn't always mean something offensive was done, people have a hard time figuring out the two.

I can see her moving on to Netflix or something and doing her Conan, Letterman or Jon Stewart thing. Wouldn't be surprised if she has a podcast that gets bought out like Smartless.

  

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23. "both things can be true"
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maybe some people are being hyper offended, maybe Ellen is just a massive dick, or maybe (likely?) both.

there's def no shortage of people in hollywood who are monumental pricks, and not in just a hard-ass boss type of way, but legit abusive behavior that i've seen first hand... driving people to breakdowns because they can. it's just a different level of bullying that i never saw as so pervasive working in other environments.
certainly not saying it's everywhere, and it's generally written off as you gotta have elephant skin in this business. but it doesn't mean there shouldn't be a reckoning of sorts.

  

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28. "Lol k"
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19. "wait 'til we kill your show"
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we gon' replace you with j. hud


>It was entirely a whisper campaign.

  

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21. "Oh and what was this conspiracy exactly?"
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She's a widely known asshole.

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26. "The conspiracy would be that it was all a contract negotiation"
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Sat May-14-22 03:56 PM by Buddy_Gilapagos

  

          

Like someone mentioned, she been on a while. Her salary and show were expensive. Her syndicators wanted to pay less or renegotiate, so they plant these stories.

As many articles there were about how terrible she was, there were rarely (I didn't see any) where people went on record and said how terrible she was.

I mean do we think she treated folks worst than Wendy Williams? Dave Letterman? John Stewart? Bill Maher?


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27. "What ?"
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So either Buzzfeed was in on it or they fell for the lies.

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32. "I mean look at the article. "
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Again I never said Ellen was a saint more like she doesn't seem to be any different than any other day time host.

Even when you look at the allegations in the article. None of the allegations aren't against her. It's against her producers and senior staff.

Im not saying the article is a lie, I am saying the article doesn't seem to say very much about Ellen. It seems strange that it would be the thing leading to the end of her show.

I am not trying to be a big Ellen defender, I am just saying it all seems strange and I think there is more going on then what the public is seeing.



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34. "remember when I asked for details about Savage? "
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and you said he is prolly just an asshole?

use that same logic with Ellen.. lol

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35. "It's Hollywood I wouldn't put anything past them."
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I agree with pov that something bigger behind the scenes could be the real issues but I think the article is correct.

The other daytime host are not using "be kind" to sell.

Producers and senior staff would not do all that they were accused of if they didn't think they could get with it. No consequences from the top is a green light.

If everything in the article, is taking place on a show with Ellen's name where she has to show up long enough to tape, and Ellen has no clue about any of it after years in Hollywood, I think that says a lot.

I agree it could be bigger then what was in the press but that would make Ellen look worse.

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29. "cause white women have a long history of being kind and fair? "
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lmao

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22. "What’s to miss? I hope the rest of her life is fucking miserable"
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I hope her employees find much better, healthier, stable workplaces

And I hope her retirement is filled with all the stress, anxiety and depression her employees had to deal with.

  

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24. "Comedians are usually dark af in real life"
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I bet the house she was even worse than she was being portrayed.

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30. "built her whole career off being nice, funny and silly"
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and it was all a complete facade.

Be lying if I said i wasn't blown away when I read some of the stories about what its like working for her. I think its hard not to buy into the image some of these celebs portray. Especially when they're a talk show host on tv everyday.


Having said all that, I still remember vividly the "coming out" episode on her sitcom. I'd like to think that was a helpful and inclusive moment in our culture.

  

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31. "its prolly draining af to be nice, silly and funny on camera all day"
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Buddy said Wendy Williams.. lol. She is a shitty persona but it could all be an act and she could be the nicest person irl.

I used to book shows in college and I met a lot of rappers. The “gangsta” rappers and hood dudes were always nice and gracious for the most part, hell.. a lot of them were funny af.

but the positive conscious rappers? man.. 75% of them were pretty full of themselves and shitty af or lacked people skills.

tldr: we don’t know these people, lol

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