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John Forte
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"Do you think you can fight?"


          

I used to think I could fight (and I could), because I can box, but fighting has changed too much. I assume anyone younger than me (except skinny Black kids) knows a bunch of MMA shit. I have no idea how to defend against a fucking leg kick. I’m way too old to put up much of a fight after a takedown in some fucking concrete.

  

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I watch a lot of MMA.
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Yeah.
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Nope. But I can take a punch.
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I started doing Jiu Jitsu and Wrestling a couple months ago. Lawd.
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training with much younger former wrestlers
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No comment
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I’m 6’5”, 275 lbs., so no I can’t. Last fight I was in was
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eh, I could prolly hold my own in a street fight
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At this age I'm not trying to find out.
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^^^^Where I'm at with it^^^^
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a lot of effort, not much skill.
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Nope, but
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Niggas might beat you up and still go to the trunk on you.
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So real
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That part.
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I wrassled in high school and practiced martial arts as an adult. and no
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Yeah. Do I want to? NOPE.
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Lol yeah the popularity of MMA really changed the game
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Yes
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one of my signature lines to my son is "i can fight for real"
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did he jump in tho lol
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what the hell do you feed him?
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you were in a street fight recently? details please
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I could fight really good in like 2010…
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I haven't had a fight in a minute & don't plan to.
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I haven't took a punch to the face since summer of 96
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Yes, because I never cared about looking cool
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case in point: https://www.reddit.com/r/caligangs/comments/ud5qyh/cholo_...
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He knew in his heart, after that leg kick…
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He either thought he had light work in front of him
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he moved like he was about to be the star
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      This ese tries to steal on a smaller 7/11 employee
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           LOL should have gave up at 0:16 after he tries to buck him.
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                Soon as dude hit the Paint The Fence block, it was over
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AYE DONT DO IT, FOO
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This a classic. But the haole getting head kicked by a local
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      Damn that kick was clean
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      bro should have known from the short shorts lol
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      Lol, just gorgeous
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           right? Straight up, with no arc, and with power
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      Mohawk dude wanted to show him mercy
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      His legs said "Die, motherfucker!"
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      dude's so polite lol
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      We’re in a golden era of street fighting videos LOL
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      Granted he was drunk/concussed, but how act like you're gonna keep
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      Facts
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      My older cousin's wife's family is Guamanian
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           goddamn lol
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                bro, this legit almost happened to me about 10 years ago...
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                     Man you know that NFC East hate is next level
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      I want ZERO smoke with Pacific Islanders
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           Out here in Cali, we learn this lesson early
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           Out here in Cali, we learn this lesson early
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      that kick! i haol'ed
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           ^Reply of the day
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it's been a while
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this is what most fights look like to me.
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lmao, complete with his boy shouting instructions
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LMAO…dude in the white tee
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Ever see a spinning backfist ??
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wow!
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"We're done. Were's my keys?"
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LOL the calmness lets me know he’s done this before
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he smashed Hulk.
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Some peoples’ “Hey, this is a bad idea” voice isn’t loud enough.
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Kid was smiling the whole time…
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yeah... never seen that
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Fighting is irrelevant these days
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^^^^^ This ^^^^^
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If I end up in a fight, there’s a 99% chance it will be a random stran...
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right its called being an adult
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yup.
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best reply in here...
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ya'll know MMA ain't new right? LOL!!!
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It's not new, but it's definitely more prevelant and common.
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that sounds pretty idealistic
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      that doesn't change the way it was, I don't know what to tell you
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      Your experience aligns with mine
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      we didn't even have rules like that, but the level of martial arts train...
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      what if you didn't have hands?
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           I mean, most of these guys were toxic degenerates, lmao
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      Thats how it was for me growing up
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      Thats how it was for me growing up
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lol on some 'put up your dukes' steeze
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      on some ole fisticuffs
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           Right? How dare his experience be different from yours?!?
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Yes*
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I used too be nice with it....
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People say this all the time, but these kids shoot less than our generat...
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Backbone
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1. "I watch a lot of MMA."
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So no.

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2. "Yeah. "
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Been in a few altho none recently however getting hit and inflicting damage on another human being is a learned skill. Like riding a bike. Imma grab a joint and twist that mfer out of socket

  

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3. "Nope. But I can take a punch. "
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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

  

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4. "I started doing Jiu Jitsu and Wrestling a couple months ago. Lawd."
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I've always lifted weights and been strong, assumed i could handle myself well against the average person. Buuuuut trained people. LAWD HAVE MERCY. Had a kid that just graduated high school hip throw me in one move. Thought i could muscle him and he said "nope" and used my own weight against me. Lmao. Technique and training beats average every time. So glad i started. When you see people smaller than you whip your ass with technique it makes you addicted to learning how to do everything. Love it. Glad i started. Humbled me real quick.

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T Reynolds
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16. "training with much younger former wrestlers "
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made me totally rethink the age = respect card if I would ever think to pull it

  

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Kira
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5. "No comment"
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It's not about thinking you can fight as much as hoping you can protect yourself.

If someone did think they could fight, and assaulted someone then confirming they could fight results in a conviction.

No empathy for white misery (c) BDot

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6. "I’m 6’5”, 275 lbs., so no I can’t. Last fight I was in was"
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maybe 6th grade.

  

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7. "eh, I could prolly hold my own in a street fight"
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because they tend to be over quickly. a few punches and it's likely done. I use to box too, so that 'might' help a bit.







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MEAT
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8. "At this age I'm not trying to find out."
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I've been in fights, at one time in life I was decent at fights.
Now, I don't want to do what it takes to find out.

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64. "^^^^Where I'm at with it^^^^"
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"To Each His Reach"

but.....

Fuck aliens.

  

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9. "a lot of effort, not much skill."
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which means i'd probably be susceptible to a well placed knockout punch.

  

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10. "Nope, but"
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growing up I had a good sense for when a fight was inevitable, and I didn’t waste any time posturing - I was about throwing and landing the first punch. That usually served me well.

No idea if I still have the same instincts and would be so quick to swing. I don’t get in confrontations with people.

  

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11. "Niggas might beat you up and still go to the trunk on you."
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Like, you won the fight, why do I need to get shot too?

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17. "So real"
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...I'm from the era when A.I. was the answer, now they think ai is the answer - Marlon Craft

  

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23. "That part."
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I'm in TX

Nyggas don't even have to go to the trunk

Don't even need a license to carry down here


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12. "I wrassled in high school and practiced martial arts as an adult. and no"
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I might be aight against someone who has no training, but even then you can get caught w/something unexpected. There's a lot of ways to lose. Street life is not as comfy and controlled as gym/studio life.

Plus if someone were to know jiu jitsu, I'd be fucked.

Then... even if you win you might lose. If the other person bonks their head when they fall or has a heart attack, you could wind up in grown up jail over some dumb shit.


TL;DR - I'm a grown up and am not trying to fight ever.

In a generation of swine, the one-eyed pig is king.
-Hunter S. Thompson

  

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13. "Yeah. Do I want to? NOPE. "
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Too old for that shit

I’m up to throw on the gloves but you never know what’s gonna happen in a street fight. Somebody take a L and come back with the blower

<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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14. "Lol yeah the popularity of MMA really changed the game"
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If you could fight in the 90s or 00s... you can't no more.
Shit ain't the same.

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15. "Yes"
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I get excited about sparring.

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18. "one of my signature lines to my son is "i can fight for real""
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he is 8 and is already 5 foot 1 and wearing a size 8 adult shoe
i got him into boxing and jujitsu since 4 so he likes to test me sometimes
i boxed since i was his same age and did various martial arts since middle school
and when it get a bit rough i tell him "i can fight for real" and he thinks im jokin

got into a street fight with him present a couple weeks ago
the ride home after
he says "so you CAN fight for real"

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21. "did he jump in tho lol"
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25. "what the hell do you feed him?"
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>he is 8 and is already 5 foot 1 and wearing a size 8 adult
>shoe

goddamn, lol.

>i got him into boxing and jujitsu since 4 so he likes to test
>me sometimes
>i boxed since i was his same age and did various martial arts
>since middle school
>and when it get a bit rough i tell him "i can fight for real"
>and he thinks im jokin

>got into a street fight with him present a couple weeks ago
>the ride home after
>he says "so you CAN fight for real"

Drive slow, homie (c)
Sounds like you won though, and are still built for it at least

  

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27. "you were in a street fight recently? details please"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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19. "I could fight really good in like 2010…"
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I ain’t got the 2022 Fighting DLC, though. I’m pretty confident I can defend myself, but I’m doing everything possible to avoid fighting, if I can. Just too many variables, anymore. Plus, I got shit to lose, man…besides the actual fight. A dude I know was telling me about a kid he grew up with. Dude got into with a guy over something dumb. Dude was much bigger than him. They scrapped and dude end up slamming the kid on the pavement. He got up, pulled out and shot him once, in the chest. Dude died, he went to prison.

...I'm from the era when A.I. was the answer, now they think ai is the answer - Marlon Craft

  

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20. "I haven't had a fight in a minute & don't plan to."
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The easy answer is yes, b/c I have height & size advantage.

However, you can't underestimate your opponent. It only takes one
good shot to knock anybody out.

Also nowadays people are a different kind of loser, so depending on
how heavily the fight leans in your favor, that might be the last of you.

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22. "I haven't took a punch to the face since summer of 96"
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Last curfuffle I got in was 2000 at the hard knock life tour concert

Duffed out a white dude whose girlfriend spit on me

I'm sure my hands still work but I got serious questions about my chin nowadays

Back then I was playing football so being rocked and maintaining my faculties was common practice

Now I just don't know

Do chins deteriorate with age?

I mean I'm 40 so its not like I'm some fragile elderly nygga

Ain't really trying to find out either way

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Cold Truth
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24. "Yes, because I never cared about looking cool"
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from 9 to 20 or so, I fought a *lot*. And what I realized was, most kids wanted to look cool, because nobody respected you if you won a fight by kicking or wrestling. You had to win by boxing, or you were a bitch.

Well... I would rather just win. Plus, I wasn't great at boxing. So I learned that all I had to do after winning a fight, was beat up the first kid trying to clown because I won the fight with a chokehold.

And for a few long stretches, I was getting jumped left and right. So for a while, I did a lot better in 3-on-1, 4-on-1 situations. I held my own pretty well after the first few, only getting my ass handed to me occasionally, and won some of them outright. Emphasis on some, lol.

Not because I was such a badass- I wasn't- but because it happened A LOT, so I just developed a sense of how to handle it well. People are sloppy as fuck when they have a numbers advantage, and there's just basic things you can do in terms of movement to use that shit against them. I'm not sure how to explain it. But not getting knocked down was always the primary goal, and singling one out for a serious eye injury came second.

Last time I got jumped I was around 19 and straight up housed three ese's.... before I got all cocky on some "YEAH MOTEHRFUCKER, WHAT NOW?" after I dropped their big homie.... and the fourth one, little bitch he was, hit me on the back of the head with a cement block. I got stabbed in the arm during that one. Fortunately some old lady came out her house and broke it up after that.

I have zero illusions that I'd be able to do that today. But again, that was most mostly a byproduct of getting jumped so often and developing that innate sense of do's and don'ts.

I was never all that good at boxing, so I'd eat too many punches trying to stand up with anyone decent. And since I was a big wwf fan as a kid, grappling was my go-to. nothing special, but choking someone was always something I tried to do early, but beyond that it was simple rock bottom/spine buster/body slam type shit. I don't know how it looked, but it worked often enough.

That shit backfired if someone was too strong though. When I was 13, I tried to wrestle one kid who was strong as fuck and got nowhere. That shit ended with him hitting me in the eye with a full can of soda. My left eye still can't move upward.

In my teens I added a lot of elbows, forearms knees, would scratch an eye, hook a nostril, try to squeeze an adams apple, etc. Again, not because I was just such a badass, but because I took about a month of Wing Chun and my Sifu's standing order was, always try to avoid a fight, but if you can't avoid it, just try to end that shit ASAP. So I took that to heart.

I'm old, out of shape, with a collection of injuries, and so far out of that existence, I doubt I'd have much success today. But I think that general mentality would still translate if I had to.

  

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26. "case in point: https://www.reddit.com/r/caligangs/comments/ud5qyh/cholo_..."
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https://www.reddit.com/r/caligangs/comments/ud5qyh/cholo_vs_a_mf_who_can_actually_fight/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3


  

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29. "He knew in his heart, after that leg kick…"
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that it wasn’t going to go well for him…but, he was in too deep.

...I'm from the era when A.I. was the answer, now they think ai is the answer - Marlon Craft

  

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35. "He either thought he had light work in front of him"
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Or had zero ability whatsoever

The cigarette puff
Bored look on his face
Complete lack of a fighting stance
And when he ran up on dude, he had that same lack of aggression
Didn't swing or anything

I've never seen anything like that.

Meanwhile, the other dude was ready for whatever

  

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69. "he moved like he was about to be the star"
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of Cholo knocks out MMA fighter... / no amount of training compares to the training of street life.. or something

but...

  

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71. "This ese tries to steal on a smaller 7/11 employee"
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He tries to steal on him, but telegraphs it in the most obvious way there is, and gets beat to shit

Hell, he looks like the other ese's brother

https://youtu.be/7m5DBc4No3Q

  

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74. "LOL should have gave up at 0:16 after he tries to buck him. "
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and litte guy doesn't flinch.

>He tries to steal on him, but telegraphs it in the most
>obvious way there is, and gets beat to shit

went at him with the Caine beating up Illena's cousin move and failed miserably. dude got put to sleep

>Hell, he looks like the other ese's brother

lol he does


>https://youtu.be/7m5DBc4No3Q

  

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88. "Soon as dude hit the Paint The Fence block, it was over"
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That block was a thing of beauty
You don't see good blocks in fights very often
I love it

  

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48. "AYE DONT DO IT, FOO"
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32. "This a classic. But the haole getting head kicked by a local"
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was another good one

https://www.reddit.com/r/fightporn/comments/u9jvd2/fighting_the_locals_on_your_hawaii_vacation_isnt/

  

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33. "Damn that kick was clean"
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34. "bro should have known from the short shorts lol"
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36. "Lol, just gorgeous "
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...I'm from the era when A.I. was the answer, now they think ai is the answer - Marlon Craft

  

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38. "right? Straight up, with no arc, and with power"
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Shit was textbook

  

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37. "Mohawk dude wanted to show him mercy"
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...I'm from the era when A.I. was the answer, now they think ai is the answer - Marlon Craft

  

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39. "His legs said "Die, motherfucker!""
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But his heart said,"It's all love, brudda!"

He did not want to hand out that ass whoopin

I bet he cried after, on that Tommy Lee from Best Of The Best, "I didn't want to fight", after wrecking an entire bar.

  

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40. "dude's so polite lol"
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47. "We’re in a golden era of street fighting videos LOL"
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51. "Granted he was drunk/concussed, but how act like you're gonna keep "
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fighting after you just got kicked upwards into a planter? That kick was so quick and so beautiful, and guy didn't even flinch or duck. He just ate the full force of that one. Haole's fight or flight was all fucked up.

Also growing up in the Seattle area one of my general rules of life is to never fight anyone from any type of polynesian island ever. Just a bad idea.

In a generation of swine, the one-eyed pig is king.
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54. "Facts"
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100%

The native / Mexican homie from SD is prejudiced against Pinoys cause of a lot of fights in his youth.

But when I bring up the other Pacific Islanders from say Carson, he's like oh nah there no beef foo relax

There's even levels to the Islander shit as you can see in this example (damn i love this thread as an excuse to post fight vids) https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/u7t1wh/this_is_why_weight_classes_exist/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

  

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58. "My older cousin's wife's family is Guamanian "
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When I was about 17 or so, I was deep into hip hop, had my backpack pieced up and all that. I had a deep catalog of CD's and tapes.

Her uncle was calling me all kinds of sellouts and posers because most of my shit at the time was east coast, and we live out west. Biggie, Wu, Redman, Jay, etc.

So that shit went off the rails quick. I told him that where I was born and live has nothing to do with what I like, but he wasn't trying to hear bullshit like logic and reason.

I was like, if anything, I'm staying truer to the roots of this shit, since it started in NY.

Dude was *livid*. Unhinged. He wanted to fight me over this, because he insisted it started in Oakland, but I was up on my history. I was hitting him with Kool Herc and DJ Hollywood bars. He really lost his shit when I told him Pac grew up in New York and Baltimore before he came out west, and Ice T was originally from Jersey.

I didn't budge for shit, but this dude was older, big as fuck. My cousin kept telling me to shut up, so I thought he was taking dude's side.

After he got the uncle to calm down, he pulled me aside and told me I didn't want to fight that man. He was like, you don't get it, if you fight him, he WILL beat your ass, and it won't be the same as me beating your ass. He'll try to kill you.

I don't really remember much after that, except that he never stopped talking shit to me that night. But I kept my mouth shut.

Probably more to do with him being off or having severe anger issues, or maybe his pride was wounded at being sonned by a youngin on the subject than being Guamanian, thinking about it now though

  

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61. "goddamn lol"
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A Guamanian with a horse in the race on the question of the origin of hip hop? Not for nothing but that's that super puritanical west coast tunnel vision that can get annoying as fuck in Cali. I respect it if you only listen to west coast shit, and you want to support the local scene and sound but when you start rewriting history I can't fuck with your opinion or personal taste.

But sounds like he was just wanting to fight you for whatever reason and had his worldview challenged on top of that

I've been there when I was drunk. Wanting to fight a guy over a sports team or something similar. Sometimes it's lizard brain territorialism and the opinion doesn't even matter




  

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65. "bro, this legit almost happened to me about 10 years ago..."
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>I've been there when I was drunk. Wanting to fight a guy over
>a sports team or something similar. Sometimes it's lizard
>brain territorialism and the opinion doesn't even matter
>

went to someone's crib with my cousin. It was a deal where the homeowner knew my cousin, but didn't know me. So...the only person I knew there WAS my cuzzo. We roll in, nothing special. It was during football season, but I don't remember who was playing. I had on a Michael Irvin jersey. I started noticing I was catching some glares from this one, particular dude. I couldn't for the life figure out what was up, because I legit didn't know dude from Adam. After a few, cuzzo picked up on it, too. He waited a couple minutes and was like....we about to dip, yall...we gotta run a few places. In the car, we were both trying to figure out what was the deal. He was like, if it had gone down, it was basically everyone in the house vs. me and you. Later, he found out from dude who's crip it was that the cat legit wanted to fight me because he's a big time 49ers fan, he hates the Cowboys and he was drunk...and apparently he's THAT guy, when he's drunk...likes to fight guy.

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66. "Man you know that NFC East hate is next level"
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Eagles fans assaulting Giants fans (not so much anymore since they won a chip)

Look how many people get bodied at Niners vs Raiders games

NINERS on COWBOYS hate however makes zero sense

Let me guess you were in there like WE DEM BOYS THIS OUR YEAR lmao

  

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56. "I want ZERO smoke with Pacific Islanders "
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Any Pacific Islander willing to fight someone my size has been in a lot more fights than me, and is far better at it.

  

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"Out here in Cali, we learn this lesson early "


  

          

Or Maybe Too late

  

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85. "Out here in Cali, we learn this lesson early "
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Or Maybe Too late

  

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67. "that kick! i haol'ed "
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70. "^Reply of the day"
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Well done

  

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28. "it's been a while"
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i don't about you all but back in the day folks would try to lift and slam you on the concrete or asphalt (if you were literally in the street fighting) whenever you tried to throw a punch..

at least that's what i recall from my last fight in south philly back in like 91? I actually saw it done as a spectator, you definitely get a different perspective..

but it's the streets, i learned early on that anything goes..

nowadays, folks are too eager pull out that thang thang and go bang bang..

too much of risk to fight..

unless it was in a safe setting (leave the guns at the door type thing) but once you leave that setting... yeah back to what i said, too much of a risk..


  

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30. "this is what most fights look like to me."
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cyze6Xt04T4

unless somebody has some training.

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

  

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31. "lmao, complete with his boy shouting instructions"
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41. "LMAO…dude in the white tee"
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every time I thought he was about to go out, he surprised me with a punch or a kick, I didn’t know he had in him. He really hit dude with the Roy Jones, fake out.

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42. "Ever see a spinning backfist ??"
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Lol…this Asian kid executed it perfectly

https://youtu.be/xzkkDvcFRog

>I used to think I could fight (and I could), because I can
>box, but fighting has changed too much. I assume anyone
>younger than me (except skinny Black kids) knows a bunch of
>MMA shit. I have no idea how to defend against a fucking leg
>kick. I’m way too old to put up much of a fight after a
>takedown in some fucking concrete.

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43. "wow!"
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44. ""We're done. Were's my keys?""
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45. "LOL the calmness lets me know he’s done this before"
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Edit , just noticed he was 🙂 thru the whole fight

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I wanna go to where the martyrs went
the brown figures on the walls of my apart-a-ment...

  

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46. "he smashed Hulk. "
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black dude should've gotten a clue when he was swinging and missing. bravado got him knocked out.

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50. "Some peoples’ “Hey, this is a bad idea” voice isn’t loud enough."
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WE see all the signs but when you’re in the shit, info don’t flow to the brain like it needs to.

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49. "Kid was smiling the whole time…"
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he knew exactly how he was going to get dude, from the jump.

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52. "yeah... never seen that"
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lol damn

  

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53. "Fighting is irrelevant these days"
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maybe if you're in elementary school. Everybody got a weapon.

I mean maybe to defend yourself against a random attacker, but if you ever fight someone you know, and win...they just coming back wit a weapon.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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55. "^^^^^ This ^^^^^"
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57. "If I end up in a fight, there’s a 99% chance it will be a random stran..."
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I’m at the point in life, where I just don’t find myself in conflict with people I know.

  

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62. "right its called being an adult"
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lol

majority of stuff with random strangers can be walked away from too. Its either someone pride or handling their emotions. Very rarely is it a situation of self defense against a random act of violence.


>I’m at the point in life, where I just don’t find myself
>in conflict with people I know.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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59. "yup."
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https://twitter.com/ATLUncensored/status/1518666498407075841?s=20&t=0Or-m2lX-XZjQwn0zzeBow

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

  

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82. "best reply in here... "
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...not only is it probable the other person has a weapon of some kind ..it's also a good chance that if you kick the other guys ass (congrats) they'll come back later with a weapon next time.

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60. "ya'll know MMA ain't new right? LOL!!!"
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it always kills me to hear dudes talking about "this new MMA stuff" as if every fight in the hood back in the day didn't end up on the ground fairly quickly. this idea that there was some respectable pugilism going on back in the day is hilarious to me. the only thing that's new now is we have a name for it.

having said all that, i got about 30 seconds of scuffle in me before i'm gassed. so i'm hoping i can end it or subdue the situation by then or i'm getting washed.

  

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63. "It's not new, but it's definitely more prevelant and common."
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Everywhere I lived, you pretty much had to stand up and box. That was it. Even if you won, people would pop shit because you "cheated". So any school I was in, people boxed, unless it was white guy Kyle from the tract home community or some shit.

The only place I lived where that rule wasn't explicit was Yucca Valley, which was white as fuck.

But Blacks and Mexicans I was around, you got little respect if you didn't box, and you got shit if you didn't.

That was pretty much the entire 90's and early 00's for me.

Today, it's much more acceptable to do damn near anything but.


  

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68. "that sounds pretty idealistic"
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a fight is a fight. pretty sure we didn't have time to go over the rules first. sure it started on the feet, but once someone took a few shots to the face a tackle was coming soon after. i seriously don't remember too many fights that didn't end up on the ground. the only rule was don't jump in a 1 on 1 and that was rarely even respected.

  

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72. "that doesn't change the way it was, I don't know what to tell you"
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>a fight is a fight. pretty sure we didn't have time to go
>over the rules first.

That's not how that works. It's not like people held a summit to go over ground rules. But it's what was actively said, both during and after a fight. Someone tried to wrestle, it's "STAND UP, DON'T BE A BITCH!", and that dude was called all kinds of bitches and cheaters after. So people tried not to do it. Your personal opinion or your own experience doesn't really change *my* experience with this.

>the only rule was don't jump in a 1 on
>1 and that was rarely even respected.

I thought you didn't go over rules first?

  

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75. "Your experience aligns with mine"
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Street fights were mostly boxing, unless the beef was SERIOUS, and even then it wasn’t really wrestling, but just stomping and ground-and-pound. Things like head-butting and excessive wrestling or mostly for white guys.

Sure, there were some guys who fought on the ground, but most people weren’t skilled at ground fighting.

  

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76. "we didn't even have rules like that, but the level of martial arts train..."
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when I was younger most people hadn't even heard of jiu jitsu and people hadn't seen Royce Gracie in those first UFC events. If you knew how to wrestle people generally wouldn't fuck w/you.

Attitude-wise you're right, though - Royce Gracie in the UFC was called a bitch on the regular for 'laying there' and not punching.

I live in a small city and we have like 5 jiu jitsu studios and a couple of muay thai gyms, and that fake ass karate w/the pre-broken boards barely exists anymore. We're raising savages. You're way more likely to run into someone w/training and skills to fuck you up that you were say 20 years ago.

In a generation of swine, the one-eyed pig is king.
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77. "what if you didn't have hands?"
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or if the other person had better hands than you? you supposed to just stand there and get knocked out for fear of getting called names? that's wild to me.

  

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79. "I mean, most of these guys were toxic degenerates, lmao"
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>or if the other person had better hands than you? you
>supposed to just stand there and get knocked out for fear of
>getting called names? that's wild to me.

I didn’t have hands until much later, but I was never nice *like that*
I always took it to the ground and/or went knees, elbows, etc
And I was not above snatching a nostril or scratching an eyeball

I always got a lot of shit for it, but I had a few situations where I’d hurt someone quick with a choke or a slam, and then I’d fight the guy talking shit because I “fought like a bitch” and beat him the same way. Problem solved.

  

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83. "Thats how it was for me growing up"
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Once someone gets rocked a few times, you wrapping up just like boxing. That wrap up uaually led to dudes going to the ground.

I have a hard time remembering any fight growing up were both dudes eventually wind up on the ground

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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84. "Thats how it was for me growing up"
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Once someone gets rocked a few times, you wrapping up just like boxing. That wrap up uaually led to dudes going to the ground.

I have a hard time remembering any fight growing up were both dudes eventually wind up on the ground

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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73. "lol on some 'put up your dukes' steeze"
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lol on some 'put up your dukes' steeze

>it always kills me to hear dudes talking about "this new MMA
>stuff" as if every fight in the hood back in the day didn't
>end up on the ground fairly quickly. this idea that there was
>some respectable pugilism going on back in the day is
>hilarious to me. the only thing that's new now is we have a
>name for it.
>
>having said all that, i got about 30 seconds of scuffle in me
>before i'm gassed. so i'm hoping i can end it or subdue the
>situation by then or i'm getting washed.

  

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78. "on some ole fisticuffs"
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before we get started let's set a few ground rules.

  

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86. "Right? How dare his experience be different from yours?!? "
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FWIW, I put my money on CT in a fight.


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80. "Yes*"
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*against the average MF and assuming no gunplay is involved

I train actively + the average person who is either out of practice and/or untrained period is gonna have problems off the strength of cardio alone

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81. "I used too be nice with it...."
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Now Im old, and dont want smoke with these young MMA thundercats.
Ironically though a lot of these young kids cants actually fight either though. Most rely on their guns.

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87. "People say this all the time, but these kids shoot less than our generat..."
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People were far more likely to get shot over a scrap in the 90s than today.

  

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