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MEAT
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Mon Jan-10-22 11:28 AM

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"Late Pass: The Disney rebrand? expanded lore? of Tinkerbell is good"
Mon Jan-10-22 11:28 AM by MEAT

  

          

She's basically an engineer
The outfit is still whatever a lot of the time. She's part of the tinker guild or whatever. So all of the fairies that are like her build stuff to figure out their way for things.

I try to watch the messages being sent to my kids. Disney still doesn't have tomboys, but I can see what they try to do with girls can do anything.

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Moana was literally a tomboy trying to escape being a princess lol
Jan 10th 2022
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yup
Jan 10th 2022
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Skeeter from Muppet Babies was a tomboy
Jan 10th 2022
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So Raya then
Jan 10th 2022
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I refuse the "tomboy" characterization entirely
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      cool
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tomjohn29
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Mon Jan-10-22 04:27 PM

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1. "Moana was literally a tomboy trying to escape being a princess lol"
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Navem nu, cuando sol
Tutu nu, vondo nos nu
Vita em, no continous non
Nos nu ekta nos sepe ta, amen

When the sun shades the ship
We sweat and life is not safe
To swim or to touch not
When we unite we hedge amen

  

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legsdiamond
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Mon Jan-10-22 04:55 PM

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2. "yup"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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MEAT
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Mon Jan-10-22 05:57 PM

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3. "Skeeter from Muppet Babies was a tomboy"
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Mon Jan-10-22 05:58 PM by MEAT

  

          

Moana is not that

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tomjohn29
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Mon Jan-10-22 07:14 PM

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4. "So Raya then"
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Mon Jan-10-22 07:17 PM by tomjohn29

  

          

naamari even more so
Luisa from Encanto even more

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Navem nu, cuando sol
Tutu nu, vondo nos nu
Vita em, no continous non
Nos nu ekta nos sepe ta, amen

When the sun shades the ship
We sweat and life is not safe
To swim or to touch not
When we unite we hedge amen

  

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Cold Truth
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Mon Jan-10-22 08:11 PM

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5. "I refuse the "tomboy" characterization entirely"
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IMO Moana, and other such heroines, are just people forging their own path, independent of any traditional social/gender expectation.

That's exactly how I frame it to my daughter too; there's no such thing as a "tomboy".

IMO it reinforces the idea that whatever she is/does that would normally fall under a "boy" umbrella makes some "other" form of girl.

Rather, any such interests are perfectly valid expressions of that character's own (i.e: regardless of anyone else's expectation) identity, and thus the same holds true for herself in the real world.

She definitely identifies more with the Raya/Moana/Mirabel types of the Disney world, than their traditional "rescue me" princesses.

She doesn't even rock with Elsa like that anymore, despite being more of a bridge between the two.

  

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tomjohn29
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Mon Jan-10-22 08:39 PM

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6. "cool"
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______________________________________

Navem nu, cuando sol
Tutu nu, vondo nos nu
Vita em, no continous non
Nos nu ekta nos sepe ta, amen

When the sun shades the ship
We sweat and life is not safe
To swim or to touch not
When we unite we hedge amen

  

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