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Buddy_Gilapagos
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"Name some wedge issues between Black PPL and Black Progressives"


  

          

And by Wedge Issues I mean issues that Black People In General and Black Progressives are very far apart on. I got:

Dave Chappelle
Chris Brown
Defund the Police
Tyler Perry
The South as a place to live

Despite Dave Chappelle, I do not think LGBTQ Rights in general are still the wedge issue it once was thankfully. (most recent survey I could find. https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/support-gay-marriage-reaches-all-time-high-survey-finds-n1244143).


What else we got?


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

  

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Immigration
Nov 03rd 2021
1
For sure.
Nov 03rd 2021
2
It's really alarming to see 3 out 5 of those on your list being entertai...
Nov 03rd 2021
3
Half the Black people up north
Nov 03rd 2021
7
buddy spends his whole day discussing celebrities
Nov 03rd 2021
24
Barack Obama
Nov 03rd 2021
4
I really dislike the framing here
Nov 03rd 2021
5
See I disagree on Bill Cosby and R. Kelly
Nov 03rd 2021
9
      I hear a lot more people trying to defend Bill than R. n/m
Nov 03rd 2021
11
           Agree. I was talking to folks the day Cosby's shit got overturned
Nov 03rd 2021
16
           R Kelly's on tape* and we know for a fact he married Alliyah
Nov 03rd 2021
17
           Absolutely. All kinds of Black folks are defending Bill...
Nov 04th 2021
27
the south as a place to live? huh??
Nov 03rd 2021
6
^^Bingo.
Nov 03rd 2021
8
exactly I was like "WTF?!" lol
Nov 03rd 2021
10
I may be the only one getting into argument about how the South
Nov 03rd 2021
12
      what was their arguments?
Nov 03rd 2021
13
      It's Backwards!
Nov 03rd 2021
15
           That's not imaginary though....but still ain't a "wedge issue" lol....
Nov 04th 2021
26
      are these people never leave NY and consider NJ as going out of town?
Nov 03rd 2021
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           Yes. Definitely have never spent any time down south.
Nov 03rd 2021
20
                not sure how that fits in the framework of your original post but ok lol
Nov 03rd 2021
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just moved to the south from dc area
Nov 03rd 2021
18
as a lifelong southern resident this shit kinda sucks lol
Nov 03rd 2021
25
As a northerner who moved south after HS
Nov 04th 2021
28
      right once you get outside the major cities some areas of the northeast....
Nov 04th 2021
30
      what I find fascinating in NC is once you leave the city
Nov 04th 2021
32
      my buddy in our warehouse is from up that way
Nov 04th 2021
50
I'd argue that the South is only a better place
Nov 14th 2021
82
      public transportation is definitely lacking in the South
Nov 14th 2021
84
SMH. Ras Baraka was right. "Sometimes, we the police"
Nov 03rd 2021
14
I forgot Kobe.
Nov 03rd 2021
21
y'all really have to have conversations with people
Nov 03rd 2021
23
C- post.
Nov 04th 2021
29
Damn Damali, when did I poop on your pop tarts?
Nov 04th 2021
31
you already know.. lol
Nov 04th 2021
33
buddy has been mad at me since like 2006 don't put this on me
Nov 04th 2021
34
      So mad at you that YOU follow me from post to post to talk about me. OK....
Nov 04th 2021
36
           1. Yes, this conversation is dumber than shit
Nov 04th 2021
48
its not you; its your posts.
Nov 15th 2021
87
The level of conversation has gone down so much on these boards
Nov 14th 2021
83
SIS. you see it too...
Nov 15th 2021
86
      bitch PLEASE! BOTH you heffas
Nov 15th 2021
89
Lol
Nov 18th 2021
94
define "black progressive".
Nov 04th 2021
35
This is the trick innit?
Nov 04th 2021
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      yeah most black folks don't give a fuck 'bout none of that bullshit
Nov 04th 2021
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           yup.. doing theeee most
Nov 05th 2021
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           you have lowered expectations for your people, mighty white of you
Nov 05th 2021
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                It's actually the opposite. It smart to know that a lot of the stuff
Nov 05th 2021
62
                the fact that you think coon-ass liberal nonsense is on a "higher&q...
Nov 05th 2021
66
                     you're assuming a lot, brother
Nov 05th 2021
69
Ye…
Nov 04th 2021
37
Who still with Ye? Black Progressives or Black People in General?
Nov 04th 2021
40
what the hell is a black progressive?
Nov 04th 2021
41
      RE: what the hell is a black progressive?
Nov 04th 2021
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           lol
Nov 04th 2021
44
hope he is well...
Nov 04th 2021
45
Christianity/Church
Nov 04th 2021
39
Black Progressives are Black people lol
Nov 04th 2021
43
If you look at my framing, the groups aren't mutually exclusive.
Nov 04th 2021
47
buddy been up north too long… lol
Nov 04th 2021
49
Making potato salad with Hellmann's....
Nov 05th 2021
53
Wait you don't use any mayo in your potato salad?
Nov 05th 2021
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      ^^^see....don't even understand the assignment....smh..come home Brother...
Nov 05th 2021
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           Oh well, I don't use Hellman's so I don't get the reference.
Nov 05th 2021
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                ^^^Mans won't say what brand he uses = suspect^^^^
Nov 05th 2021
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WHOA WHOA WHOA
Nov 05th 2021
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You need to get them fake ass northern southerners out your circle fam.
Nov 05th 2021
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Blasphemy
Nov 05th 2021
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      I promise you.
Nov 05th 2021
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           haha.. nah, I know its a thing and a serious topic among US
Nov 05th 2021
80
wait my people are from Mississippi and we put sugar on our grits
Nov 05th 2021
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I suspect some of y'all don't know the difference between Cream of Wheat
Nov 05th 2021
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I've never had Cream of Wheat and I doubt anyone in my family has
Nov 05th 2021
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I am adding putting Sugar on Grits as a test on the list
Nov 05th 2021
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      see...now THIS is a wedge issue!
Nov 05th 2021
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      lol
Nov 05th 2021
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      FOH.
Nov 05th 2021
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           Even if you think Sugar on Grits is gross, do you agree with the idea
Nov 15th 2021
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.
Nov 05th 2021
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I don't like grits...
Nov 05th 2021
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neither did I until I married a southern woman
Nov 05th 2021
79
Shrimp with grits and gravy is low country food
Nov 14th 2021
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      Yup. Both sides of the fam are from Savannah
Nov 18th 2021
93
1. I have and 2. Ain't nothing wrong with sugar on grits
Nov 05th 2021
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      I know sugar on grits is a serious wedge issue
Nov 05th 2021
78
you know he doesn't actually talk to people
Nov 04th 2021
51
      Fam do you just want to post the IG post you keep referring to?
Nov 05th 2021
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           I have no idea what social media platforms you use
Nov 05th 2021
73
I forgot the Democratic Party
Nov 05th 2021
52
this whole post is performative lol
Nov 15th 2021
90
What does that mean? I feel like I've been seeing that word used a lot
Nov 18th 2021
92
      basically acting like something rather than simply being
Nov 18th 2021
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           huh?
Nov 19th 2021
96
                doing things that suggest a certain narrative to fit into a group.
Nov 21st 2021
99
voting?
Nov 15th 2021
91
How about "Socialism" ?
Nov 20th 2021
97
For sure.
Nov 22nd 2021
100
R Kelly
Nov 20th 2021
98
Stop, Question and Frisk
Dec 07th 2021
101

PimpTrickGangstaClik
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1. "Immigration"
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Buddy_Gilapagos
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2. "For sure. "
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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

  

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FLUIDJ
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3. "It's really alarming to see 3 out 5 of those on your list being entertai..."
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I hate that Pop culture has such a huge impact on how we relate to each other.....
It's sad really...

I don't agree with The South as a place to live being a wedge issue.

Everybody got country cousins...it's part of the Black Experience.

"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"

  

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7. "Half the Black people up north"
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are still considering the south when they come to visit family or visit ATL

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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24. "buddy spends his whole day discussing celebrities"
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that's it

what else would you expect?

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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4. "Barack Obama"
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5. "I really dislike the framing here"
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And seeing your list, it would seem Bill Cosby and R. Kelly both fit.

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"There is only one god and his name is death. And there is only one thing we say to death: not today."

  

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9. "See I disagree on Bill Cosby and R. Kelly"
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There is a wrong and loud crowd, but I think most black people think these guys are dog shit.




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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

  

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11. "I hear a lot more people trying to defend Bill than R. n/m"
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16. "Agree. I was talking to folks the day Cosby's shit got overturned"
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One of them, a fucking teacher, was even trying to go down the "he was trying to buy NBC" bullshit ass route.
The R. Kelly doc flipped a bunch of people, but there's still plenty of "but (insert white man)!" types out there

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"You can't beat white people. You can only knock them out."

"There is only one god and his name is death. And there is only one thing we say to death: not today."

  

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17. "R Kelly's on tape* and we know for a fact he married Alliyah"
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when she was underage. It's pretty hard to ignore that


Bill Cosby has however many dozens of unrelated Ladies making similar claims against him over a large period of time, but there's no video of him engaging in the crime he's accused of (Some people would still support him anyhow)











*And of Course by R Kelly, I mean his Brother

R.I.P. Loud But Wrong Guy
Dec 29th 2009 - Dec 17th 2017

  

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27. "Absolutely. All kinds of Black folks are defending Bill..."
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Many of which really surprised me - and across all demographics. Of course there are some that didn't surprise me at all...the woke Black folks who defend anything Black, the conspiracy theory/anti-vax Black folks who felt that "they" were out to get Bill, the older Black folks like my parents who were quiet during the trial and conviction but were looking for ANY reason to defend him - and when it was overturned they jumped in to defend, etc.

But besides all those groups I had some friends who I typically see eye-to-eye with (progressive, logic-based, non-emotional reasoning) that shocked me in their defense of Cosby, despite the evidence out there - similarity across numerous accusations, and what he actually admitted to doing.

  

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6. "the south as a place to live? huh??"
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sure, the south has its issues, but the only blk folks looking at living in the entire south as a negative are east coast blacks that view living in squalor as a flex just because its in NY/ DC/ Philly, etc

that shit is not the wedge you think it is

  

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8. "^^Bingo. "
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You described in perfectly.

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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

  

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10. "exactly I was like "WTF?!" lol"
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https://youtu.be/eaaTxVRG06c?t=89

  

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12. "I may be the only one getting into argument about how the South"
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is a better place to live for black people than the North.

I also had to struggle a few times to get some of the young people I know to consider southern schools.

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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

  

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13. "what was their arguments?"
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Navem nu, cuando sol
Tutu nu, vondo nos nu
Vita em, no continous non
Nos nu ekta nos sepe ta, amen

When the sun shades the ship
We sweat and life is not safe
To swim or to touch not
When we unite we hedge amen

  

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15. "It's Backwards!"
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They have an image of the South that has the Confederate flags everywhere you look and the Klan always lurking in the shadows.


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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

  

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26. "That's not imaginary though....but still ain't a "wedge issue" lol...."
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"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"

  

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19. "are these people never leave NY and consider NJ as going out of town?"
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https://youtu.be/eaaTxVRG06c?t=89

  

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20. "Yes. Definitely have never spent any time down south. "
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Often West Indian so its not like they necessarily have family down south.

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22. "not sure how that fits in the framework of your original post but ok lol"
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18. "just moved to the south from dc area"
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Wed Nov-03-21 05:12 PM by Crash Bandacoot

          

my moms family is from georgia and i'm in savannah now. i think
it's probably a better place to retire but i haven't been here long
enough to form a solid opinion yet. i've talked with a couple of
people that made a similar move (to atlanta) and they ultimately went
back home because of family and 'the south'. i can see why people
would not like it but, there's pros/cons with everything and the north
is not necessarily better...just more people packed/tossed into the
rat race.

  

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25. "as a lifelong southern resident this shit kinda sucks lol"
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i dont begrudge any black person that looks at this shit and says this isnt for me.

<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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28. "As a northerner who moved south after HS"
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it was always a head scratcher for me when I went back home

Especially since I’m from western PA.

“Rednecks and confederate flags!!! Hell nah”

Same Black people back home live in towns that are 90% white, filled with rednecks who call their white gf’s n#gger lovers.

when they finally leave home to visit the south they are mesmerized by all this Blackness

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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30. "right once you get outside the major cities some areas of the northeast...."
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are worse than the south. And the GOP just won governor in VA and barely lost in NJ, they're coming lol...

>it was always a head scratcher for me when I went back home
>
>Especially since I’m from western PA.
>
>“Rednecks and confederate flags!!! Hell nah”
>
>Same Black people back home live in towns that are 90% white,
>filled with rednecks who call their white gf’s n#gger
>lovers.
>
>when they finally leave home to visit the south they are
>mesmerized by all this Blackness

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https://youtu.be/eaaTxVRG06c?t=89

  

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32. "what I find fascinating in NC is once you leave the city"
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and hit the country its still a lot of Black folk in these small ass country towns

which is wild af to me since anytime that happens up north its always country ass wypepo

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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50. "my buddy in our warehouse is from up that way"
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And I remember we had this convo almost word for word.

Me complaining about hating it here, him loving it here because there are actually black people here. From that perspective I get it. For me it’s nothing special though. The more I travel the more I feel suffocated by race and culture in the south.

<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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82. "I'd argue that the South is only a better place "
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if you're Black and middle/upper class. I don't think working class or poor Black folks would necessarily fare better in the South due to the lack of unions, the Jim Crow esq welfare system, the limited public transit systems etc. I know of a lot of working class Black folks who moved to places like Atlanta and Charlotte and ended up in similar or worse conditions than they already had up North.

I personally would never live in the South because I come from a Northern family. We've been in Philly since the 1700s and I love it up here. All Black Northerners don't hate the South. Some of us simply have strong roots in Northern cities that we want to maintain. Why should we let gentrification win?

  

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84. "public transportation is definitely lacking in the South"
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but I don’t miss standing on a cold ass platform waiting for a train or bus.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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14. "SMH. Ras Baraka was right. "Sometimes, we the police""
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One Hundred.

  

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21. "I forgot Kobe."
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23. "y'all really have to have conversations with people"
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that are about topics other than what's trending on Instagram

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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29. "C- post."
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a weak attempt at discussing an actual important and interesting topic.

too much emphasis on pop culture along with a lack of awareness around actual "wedge issues".

would have been better if someone smarter posted it.

d

"I don't speak to provoke. I speak because I think our time on Earth is short and each moment that we are not our truest selves, each moment we say what we do not mean because we imagine that is what somebody what's us to say, then we are wasting our time

  

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31. "Damn Damali, when did I poop on your pop tarts?"
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Don't think I don't notice the low key personal jabs across several posts now. Want to talk about it?


>a weak attempt at discussing an actual important and
>interesting topic.
>
>too much emphasis on pop culture along with a lack of
>awareness around actual "wedge issues".
>
>would have been better if someone smarter posted it.
>
>d
>
>"I don't speak to provoke. I speak because I think our time on
>Earth is short and each moment that we are not our truest
>selves, each moment we say what we do not mean because we
>imagine that is what somebody what's us to say, then we are
>wasting our time


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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

  

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33. "you already know.. lol"
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you are enemies with her lil mascot

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34. "buddy has been mad at me since like 2006 don't put this on me"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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36. "So mad at you that YOU follow me from post to post to talk about me. OK...."
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I will not go back and forth with you in this post (and I hope no one else does either) but two things?

1. This convo is dumb but a grown man talking about Pokeman GO isn't?

https://twitter.com/rjcc/status/1455598971062206469

2. Jokes aside, why do you make so many tweets that no one responds to? Seriously, how does that work? Do you have a tweet quota for your job?



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48. "1. Yes, this conversation is dumber than shit"
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and talking about pokemon go and thinking out loud about augmented reality is a part of my job

2. Making tweets that get replies, or making tweets at all, doesn't make me any extra money and so it doesn't factor into my use of the platform. I know everyone you follow makes 1 gotta go posts about whatever's trending and I'm happy for them


www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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87. "its not you; its your posts."
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i don't even notice screennames until after i hit 'Post Message'

bruh, i don't even know you. but you just be having consistently shitty takes that deserve rebuke.

love u tho.

d

"I don't speak to provoke. I speak because I think our time on Earth is short and each moment that we are not our truest selves, each moment we say what we do not mean because we imagine that is what somebody what's us to say, then we are wasting our time

  

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83. "The level of conversation has gone down so much on these boards"
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It's really a damn shame.

  

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86. "SIS. you see it too..."
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this shit is overrun w/immature, narrowminded lonely wannabe edgelords my god

i'm too tired to teach for free these days.

d

"I don't speak to provoke. I speak because I think our time on Earth is short and each moment that we are not our truest selves, each moment we say what we do not mean because we imagine that is what somebody what's us to say, then we are wasting our time

  

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89. "bitch PLEASE! BOTH you heffas"
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94. "Lol"
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America has imported more warlord theocracy from Afghanistan than it has exported democracy.

  

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35. "define "black progressive". "
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what you're referencing here seems to be "issues" to college educated Black liberals.

And those "issues" are mostly irrelevant to the actual lives of Black people

  

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38. "This is the trick innit?"
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By black progressive, I think I was mainly thinking about the things that stay on the mind of a certain woke segment of black twitter which I agree aren't on the mind of most black people.


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46. "yeah most black folks don't give a fuck 'bout none of that bullshit"
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Those folks that do are performative as hell with it

  

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54. "yup.. doing theeee most"
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steady mobbin’ on twitter

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61. "you have lowered expectations for your people, mighty white of you"
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62. "It's actually the opposite. It smart to know that a lot of the stuff"
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that gets people worked up or stays in the media aren't really that important.


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66. "the fact that you think coon-ass liberal nonsense is on a &quot;higher&q..."
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than shit like housing, healthcare, mental health, poverty, reparations, etc says a lot

  

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69. "you're assuming a lot, brother"
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all of the issues you brought up matter

but from my point of view it's not performative to be "progressive"

I understand we're all operating from different sets of experiences that shape us though

peace

  

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37. "Ye…"
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let’s get into it

  

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40. "Who still with Ye? Black Progressives or Black People in General?"
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**********
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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

  

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41. "what the hell is a black progressive? "
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we all black lol

  

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42. "RE: what the hell is a black progressive? "
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something you aint..lol

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44. "lol "
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45. "hope he is well..."
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wish he still made good music (no pun)
fin

______________________________________

Navem nu, cuando sol
Tutu nu, vondo nos nu
Vita em, no continous non
Nos nu ekta nos sepe ta, amen

When the sun shades the ship
We sweat and life is not safe
To swim or to touch not
When we unite we hedge amen

  

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39. "Christianity/Church"
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43. "Black Progressives are Black people lol"
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And there are Black progressives in the south.

What? LOL

Peace,

Spirit (Alan)
http://wutangbook.com

  

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47. "If you look at my framing, the groups aren't mutually exclusive."
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>And there are Black progressives in the south.
>
>What? LOL
>
>Peace,
>
>Spirit (Alan)
>http://wutangbook.com


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49. "buddy been up north too long… lol"
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prolly puts sugar on his grits

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53. "Making potato salad with Hellmann's...."
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"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"

  

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56. "Wait you don't use any mayo in your potato salad?"
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And BTW, I am fairly confident that my potato salad would murk anyone talking smack in here potato salad.


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58. "^^^see....don't even understand the assignment....smh..come home Brother..."
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>And BTW, I am fairly confident that my potato salad would
>murk anyone talking smack in here potato salad.

who said anything about NOT using mayo???

"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"

  

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64. "Oh well, I don't use Hellman's so I don't get the reference. "
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67. "^^^Mans won't say what brand he uses = suspect^^^^"
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"Get ready....for your blessing....."
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55. "WHOA WHOA WHOA"
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I'm ignoring the rest of this lazy ass discussion and bullshit northerner slander in here but this I cannot slide. The *onliest* people I personally know who put sugar on their grits are southern. Southern AF, too.

  

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59. "You need to get them fake ass northern southerners out your circle fam. "
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60. "Blasphemy "
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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63. "I promise you."
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First time I saw it I was both horrified (because fucking BLECH!) and confused.

  

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80. "haha.. nah, I know its a thing and a serious topic among US"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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65. "wait my people are from Mississippi and we put sugar on our grits"
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________________________________________
"Stay out the dark, cause if I catch you when the sun is down..."
https://youtu.be/eaaTxVRG06c?t=89

  

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68. "I suspect some of y'all don't know the difference between Cream of Wheat"
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& Grits....

Or somewhere along the lineage somebody bumped their head and got confused and just fucked it up for everyone else up the family tree.....
That's the only logical explanation..


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70. "I've never had Cream of Wheat and I doubt anyone in my family has"
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________________________________________
"Stay out the dark, cause if I catch you when the sun is down..."
https://youtu.be/eaaTxVRG06c?t=89

  

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74. "I am adding putting Sugar on Grits as a test on the list"
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Because the notion that no respecting black person puts sugar on their grits is something I only ever hear from fancy people trying to prove too hard their black bona fides.



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76. "see...now THIS is a wedge issue!"
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"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"

  

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77. "lol"
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________________________________________
"Stay out the dark, cause if I catch you when the sun is down..."
https://youtu.be/eaaTxVRG06c?t=89

  

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81. "FOH."
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Y’all narratives be funny as shit. While tongue is (sorta) planted in cheek (I think sugar on grits is only slightly more offensive than ketchup on eggs but whatevs), only “fancy Black people” who are performing for ‘bona fides’ take issue with it?!?!

Ridic.

Let me be clear, I don’t know nor care about what any of y’all think but I’m super clear that sugar on grits is gross. I have, nor will I ever, understand it. Eat fucking Cream of Wheat. Jesus.

Because the notion that no respecting black person puts sugar
>on their grits is something I only ever hear from fancy people
>trying to prove too hard their black bona fides.
>
>
>
>**********
>"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then
>they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson
>
>"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

  

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88. "Even if you think Sugar on Grits is gross, do you agree with the idea"
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that REAL black people don't put sugar on their grits?

That's specifically what I am commenting on. The idea that its a lithmus test for blackness.


>Y’all narratives be funny as shit. While tongue is (sorta)
>planted in cheek (I think sugar on grits is only slightly more
>offensive than ketchup on eggs but whatevs), only “fancy
>Black people” who are performing for ‘bona fides’ take
>issue with it?!?!
>
>Ridic.
>
>Let me be clear, I don’t know nor care about what any of
>y’all think but I’m super clear that sugar on grits is
>gross. I have, nor will I ever, understand it. Eat fucking
>Cream of Wheat. Jesus.
>
>Because the notion that no respecting black person puts sugar
>>on their grits is something I only ever hear from fancy
>people
>>trying to prove too hard their black bona fides.
>>
>>
>>
>>**********
>>"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then
>>they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson
>>
>>"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"
>


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

  

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71. "."
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72. "I don't like grits..."
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...but my people are from Savannah & I've seen folks eat them a few different ways. I've seen some folks put sugar in their grits. I've seen some folks with a bunch of butter. My grandmother used to make grits with shrimp & gravy.

  

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79. "neither did I until I married a southern woman"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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85. "Shrimp with grits and gravy is low country food"
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Southern coastal South Carolina. (I'm not a fan)

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93. "Yup. Both sides of the fam are from Savannah"
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>Southern coastal South Carolina. (I'm not a fan)

My little brother used to kill his shrimp, grits & gravy as a kid. I preferred Grandma's fried catfish.

  

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75. "1. I have and 2. Ain't nothing wrong with sugar on grits"
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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

  

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78. "I know sugar on grits is a serious wedge issue"
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there is a comedian on SM KevOnStage who posted he put sugar on grits and he got a good 3 weeks of serious traffic out of that bit

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51. "you know he doesn't actually talk to people"
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he just made this up after reading some shade room posts on IG

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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57. "Fam do you just want to post the IG post you keep referring to?"
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Because I am not on IG and don't know what you are talking about.

It would be easier if folks know what you are talking about.

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73. "I have no idea what social media platforms you use"
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because I don't stalk people's social media like a creep for an entire decade

you seem to talk about whatever's popular on IG

maybe you don't use it and that's just the level of your intellect, but I think more highly of you than that

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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52. "I forgot the Democratic Party"
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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

  

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90. "this whole post is performative lol"
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Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

  

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92. "What does that mean? I feel like I've been seeing that word used a lot"
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in contexts I don't regularly understand what is meant.

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95. "basically acting like something rather than simply being"
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that something.

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

  

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96. "huh? "
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99. "doing things that suggest a certain narrative to fit into a group."
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a way of playing into stereotypes in order to fit in. I'm using 'performative' as it relates to blackness, but it's wearing a mask to gain more acceptance. however, wearing a mask isn't exclusive to blackness.

for the record, I was kidding when I made that initial comment.

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

  

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91. "voting?"
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97. "How about "Socialism" ? "
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Demoratic Socialism as a platform.


My gut feeling (without any research or anything) is that most of Black america rejected "Democratic Socialism" at the same rate of rejection as any other demographic in this country.



Sure its popular among all young progressives (black progressives included). But I see the term as a wedge between progressives and the rest of Offline America.

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100. "For sure. "
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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

  

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98. "R Kelly"
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http://instagram.com/schemeofthings

  

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101. "Stop, Question and Frisk"
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Eric Adams describes practicing Stop, Question and Frisk, my other chats are dead split on it.

https://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/ny-oped-how-we-make-new-york-city-safe-20211128-4ekltfwlx5f4bgb3r4aegdnaiu-story.html




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