Seriously, why haven't you left? The repubs are literally trying to strip America of Democracy. BillyBob and them are trying to take over the .... everything. Most of us are Black/Brown - it ain't looking good for us. These white folks know we are going to outnumber them soon and are trying to bake in a power advantage. There is a word for countries run by the minority....

On the other hand Remote work is popping, the American Dollar is strong and I see know reason not to get a good remote job in Black Brown country and live our black ass lives being comfortable amongst people who look like us.

So why are you still here?

Poll result (19 votes) It's not that bad. (8 votes) Vote This will pass (1 votes) Vote Kids (0 votes) Vote I like where the country is headed (1 votes) Vote I'm working on it.... (9 votes) Vote

Trust me, I’ve tried
Still trying

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fuck them..

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Yup. if there's one thing white folks would love to have happen, its all the black folks leaving.

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"The world is before you and you need not take it or leave it as it was when you came in." - James Baldwin

To me at least. Top to bottom from leaving family, friends, community to the logistics and expense of it all.

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"You can't beat white people. You can only knock them out."

♥ Inescapably Me ♥

"Love is never any better than the lover" Toni Morrison (The Bluest Eye)

Remote work, removes the "job" one.

go somewhere that speaks english "language' gone.

You're american money is gonna travel MUCH further almost anywhere you go, that'll go a long ways to helping to solve your housing issues, add in the fact you can catch an Airbnb almost anywhere on earth and housing gets sorted REAL quick.

I'm not saying it's cake, I am saying it's doable, very much so, and has it's advantages.

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Navem nu, cuando sol
Tutu nu, vondo nos nu
Vita em, no continous non
Nos nu ekta nos sepe ta, amen

When the sun shades the ship
We sweat and life is not safe
To swim or to touch not
When we unite we hedge amen

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Navem nu, cuando sol
Tutu nu, vondo nos nu
Vita em, no continous non
Nos nu ekta nos sepe ta, amen

When the sun shades the ship
We sweat and life is not safe
To swim or to touch not
When we unite we hedge amen

My shooting ethos is that if I ever get into a situation where I need multiple clips then my problem is bigger than anything I’m solving in the moment.

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It's not possible in my field.
And the dollar is strong compared to lots of currencies, yes, but the euro and pound been shitting on it for quite a while now.
Dollar ain't going that far in any comparably wealthy country.

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"You can't beat white people. You can only knock them out."

So yeah, this won't work if you want to live in Europe.

but is that where you really wanna live?

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There’s sugar in everything. The school system is purposely bad on even math and science.
The air is bad. Everything is on fire or flooding due to poor city design
You’re advertised to non fucking stop
Your kids are advertised to non fucking stop
You have to pay pay to be sick
And you have little to no protections from any employer
You gotta bounce from job to job until you get one that won’t try to break you instead of pay you.
And that’s just surface shit.

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and I won't undersell the difficulty of pulling up stakes. It takes significant resources, but if you work remotely..... Iono. I just feel like you could slow walk a move relatively easily over the course of a year or so.

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"You probably wouldn't worry about what people think of you if you could know how seldom they do!" - Olin Miller

I think that understates how bad this place is
Empirically so.

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"You can't beat white people. You can only knock them out."

is something about WHERE an employee works that matters. I say this because I am a remote worker now. I live in Missouri. My employer is in Colorado. When They offered me the job the lady in HR mentioned that they were already “established” in Missouri. I think that has something to do with taxes. Anyway, I don’t think I can just work anywhere in the world. Like I can go somewhere for a couple weeks but if I just like MOVE, that’s gonna be a problem for my employer.

♥ Inescapably Me ♥

"Love is never any better than the lover" Toni Morrison (The Bluest Eye)

Figuring out what to take out, can be a bit tough, but nothing a conversation with their "already on the books CPA" wouldn't fix.

Also, you can use the ever useful "tax home" You have a house in Missouri? Cool, that's your tax home. You pay taxes there, you're a resident there, ignore the actual physical location of where you are.

The IRS doesn't care, and Missouri ain't gonna turn down the tax income.

and of course you could always just have your company pay you 1099 and then you handle the tax aspect.

There are work arounds.

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"You probably wouldn't worry about what people think of you if you could know how seldom they do!" - Olin Miller

Scared of embarking on something that new…that big of an upheaval.
Parents are both in there 70s and have varying degrees of failing health
Leaving everything I know
Where would I even begin?

...I'm from the era when A.I. was the answer, now they think ai is the answer - Marlon Craft

I ain't leaving unless I have to leave. This is my home. Those other countries aren't mine.

And those black/brown countries are not going to embrace you as their own just because you think you look like them. You'd be an outsider. I doubt it will be as comfortable as you imagine. And likely not as comfortable as you're living now.


You're talking like this is Afghanistan and the Taliban is rolling into Kabul tomorrow. There's no imminent danger here. Life is good here, especially compared to the rest of the world.

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To overthrow the government. Driven by the outgoing president and his supporters.
None of those in charge have even whiffed punishment.
Meanwhile said former president is issuing revenge threats and trying to prop up the more polite coup attempt and Republicans by an large are fine with it
And there are more than enough white people of all persuasions that would go along with the usurping of democracy, less they get uninvited to Thanksgiving.
This may be our home
But unless we plan to fight it won’t be for too much longer. It’ll be the place where our people were from.
I can’t call it.

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No shade but you kinda proving his point.

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my wife has family there and we still wont go lol

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Navem nu, cuando sol
Tutu nu, vondo nos nu
Vita em, no continous non
Nos nu ekta nos sepe ta, amen

When the sun shades the ship
We sweat and life is not safe
To swim or to touch not
When we unite we hedge amen

And I’m from here.
It’s three major metro areas and a whole bunch of nothing else.

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With the explicit understanding in the house that by working in that industry I’ll have national if not global flexibility to move.
Ive since left that company for a job that has a global footprint, while also taking a compensation package that will get both of us out of student loan debt within a year

I’m not being a twenty year old about this. Wherever we go we’ll have to work to live. And my stated goal for any move is to be able to live and not just survive.

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It's important to be honest about where we are. There was an attempted coup. Not only was the ringleader not punished, HE IS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT AGAIN

and he will LIKELY receive his party's nomination. So, unless you are willing to FIGHT, like for real fight. I don't get the whole "This is my country." argument.

Are you gonna fight to keep it? Are you about that life? If you ain't, you should probably get ghost.

Just my thoughts.

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"You probably wouldn't worry about what people think of you if you could know how seldom they do!" - Olin Miller

Believe that. But I’m not trying to live like this
It’s so much for so little return aside from surviving

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Sheesh.

1). I'm not afraid of all the stuff you're worried about. If Trump runs again, he will lose. His people will be mad. But they aren't going to do anything. Just like they couldn't do anything in 2020. There won't be a fight to fight.

2). This is some Mickey Mouse stuff compared to the problems of many of the black/brown countries you are talking about fleeing to.

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Im only four or five generations removed from the enslaved
They worked hard ass lives so we could have better at each step
Enslaved cropping begat sharecropping which begat a move towards the city which begat house cleaning and cafeteria work which led to my parents being born and raised in the Ps and trying the break the cycle of working to live to die
And they have to a degree
But they didnt raise me to be some kind of freedom fighter. I was taught this world is mine and to live it for myself.
I got two kids now. Not trying to have them beholden to this backwoods ass country that hates them.
If we gonna have to be around people that hate us at least let it be higher quality amenities than this shit.

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Assuming you could easily go wherever you want

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I think most anywhere that’s not here, Brazil, or Russia is better.
Not good. Better.

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>1). I'm not afraid of all the stuff you're worried about. If
>Trump runs again, he will lose. His people will be mad. But
>they aren't going to do anything. Just like they couldn't do
>anything in 2020. There won't be a fight to fight.

I'm not sure you understand how wrong this is. He won't have to win. Republicans are slowly taking over local elections boards so that they can simply overturn any election with a result that doesn't serve their interests. If the House & Senate goes back to Republican control in 2022 midterms, the rest is history.

>2). This is some Mickey Mouse stuff compared to the problems
>of many of the black/brown countries you are talking about
>fleeing to.

and how do you think those problems in those places got so bad in the first place? This country (along w/Britian, Russia and handful of others) is literally an evil empire of colonization, imperialism and destabilization.

I have no interest in continuing to call such a place my home regardless of whether i was born here or not. I'm not claiming it.

And to claim it as yours means you're complicit in the way US foreign and domestic policy has mass murdered all over the globe for centuries.

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"I don't speak to provoke. I speak because I think our time on Earth is short and each moment that we are not our truest selves, each moment we say what we do not mean because we imagine that is what somebody what's us to say, then we are wasting our time

I think part of the problem is America is really good at amplifying the shitty people but like you said..

This is MY home!!!

Why the fuck would I leave? Cause they want us to leave?

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Navem nu, cuando sol
Tutu nu, vondo nos nu
Vita em, no continous non
Nos nu ekta nos sepe ta, amen

When the sun shades the ship
We sweat and life is not safe
To swim or to touch not
When we unite we hedge amen

https://livingbluetx.com/2021/09/domestic-terrorist-next-door/

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lol

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Navem nu, cuando sol
Tutu nu, vondo nos nu
Vita em, no continous non
Nos nu ekta nos sepe ta, amen

When the sun shades the ship
We sweat and life is not safe
To swim or to touch not
When we unite we hedge amen

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None of us do.
My dad called me last night talking about he needs a holster for his bicycle
Said that he was out on the ride yesterday and there was a truck being antagonistic. Said dude kept stopping and trying to goad the group into a fight
Dad said if he’d been strapped he’d have shot the man
I believe him too. I think he’s itching for a fight. Man is ammoed up and out.

But joy, resistance, success? That aint no fight. You just living.

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enough to want to leave?

you think your pop is the only one who’s been in a sticky situation?

I’ve been almost run off the road in Tennessee at 3 AM
I’ve been run up on by cops with guns drawn for stealing a car.. while walking

but keep trying to tell everyone else what to feel and how to process their shit simply because you watched CNN on Jan 6th.

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>But joy, resistance, success? That aint no fight. You just
>living.

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“There is no fate that cannot be surmounted by scorn.” -Albert Camus

We’re closer to existential survival than most of us would like to admit
We’re surviving a pandemic, our communities being poisoned by water, sugar is in every fucking thing, they’re locking up the poorest of us, exploiting those that remain, the planet is heating while our blocks don’t have trees, almost none of us have wealth, some of us have small savings, nearly all of us are in debt, our health and usually security of our kids is tied to ever scare employment

And that’s all BEFORE the bonafide growing confederacy that wants to and is building up to murder en masse.

Have joy, have happiness, but that’s the fight for internal peace when there is an actual external fight to be had and most of us aren’t fighting that fight.

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>We’re surviving a pandemic, our communities being poisoned
>by water, sugar is in every fucking thing, they’re locking
>up the poorest of us, exploiting those that remain, the planet
>is heating while our blocks don’t have trees, almost none of
>us have wealth, some of us have small savings, nearly all of
>us are in debt, our health and usually security of our kids is
>tied to ever scare employment
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>And that’s all BEFORE the bonafide growing confederacy that
>wants to and is building up to murder en masse.

Like that fight fight is coming whether we like it or not.
I personally resent the binary. But accept it.

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you would be the one telling slaves there is no point in running to freedom

no point in the civil rights movement

White people have always been trying to get us out the paint since they brought us here.

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This is the most insulting thing anyone has ever typed to me
Im saying get free and your monkey ass comes in time after time saying “we already free”
Whether its protest or boycott or now leaving this hell hole youre the largest cheerleader for complacency and black mediocrity on this board.

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for Black Americans because you watched Jan 6th on CNN is insulting

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I dont need to convince anyone of anything. Its my views
But I’ve had the same message for literally years
You just continue to try to justify your happiness
Which hey, enjoy your shit, plenty of people do
But your fragile ego cant seem to handle someone criticizing something you like
You rally to the defense of awful shit before just thinking that maybe someone sees it a different way.
But to say that I would’ve advocated for slavery when you’re literally saying people should stay in this country today is such a wild contortion that I feel like youre fucking with me
That shit is lame.

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you are in here telling people they cant fight so leave

Nah homie.. you leave

oh wait, you AREN’T leaving.

you are living in Texas in a 4,000 sq ft house with 6 cars while making 6 figures..

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Not one person in here is on the front lines of representational government, or writing or enacting laws, or on staffs of legislatures or court houses

So the fight to strip away rights and freedoms and changing the shape of today … nobody here is fighting

Meanwhile theres a growing militia and secessionist movement that is literally armed and training … nobody in here is training or prepping on how to defend themselves from that.

Joy, at this point in history, is a coping mechanism, but to call it a fight seems like the self delusion of the weak fo feel like they’re doing something.

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>Joy, at this point in history, is a coping mechanism, but to
>call it a fight seems like the self delusion of the weak fo
>feel like they’re doing something.
>
>

Its not. No. Don’t bastardize what a fight is
Fights have opponents. Our opponents aren’t trying to take our joy. They’re trying to have us dead and/or subjugated
The fact that you can smile or persevere through that is a whole other thing. But a fight it is not.
Maybe its a struggle. But words have meanings

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Things are looking good for brown people aka hispanics, latinos, latinx etc. They are a firmly entrenched buffer class that has the privilege of identifying as white literally. WE know white latinos so I'm not trying to hear sob stories from them including the chivo 2121 tier. Thought yall learned your lesson about this black and brown unity bs the dominant society pushed.

This land is my ancestral home so I'm not going anywhere despite the historical attacks on my community. We'll triumph over them here but if you want to leave by all means go.

No empathy for white misery (c) BDot

"root for everybody black haters say that's crazy, wow..."

I just don't think many are, not frfr.

Not risk imprisonment or death for our country. I don't see it.

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Brazil's government is like our inbred cousin, though, so I'll pass.

In a generation of swine, the one-eyed pig is king.
-Hunter S. Thompson

"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"

and one I wrestled with during my year in PR. There is a thought that we can do it better than they did, but.....

I could just be kidding myself.

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its definitely important to think through how we emigrate without displacing

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"I don't speak to provoke. I speak because I think our time on Earth is short and each moment that we are not our truest selves, each moment we say what we do not mean because we imagine that is what somebody what's us to say, then we are wasting our time

gone...but...I ain't leaving for their edification.

My beefs don't outweigh the things that have me rooted here.

talking about leaving America

lmao..

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