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spades
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"Talking Shop on a Monday."


  

          

Labor day, first day on my new job, etc. Had to take some off.

Anywho

What y'all been up to? This new job is a mess, as always HOWEVER they made it seem like a dream. At this point, I may have to do my subordinate's job for a week or so to get him caught up, or fire this fool, because not only am I behind due to my predecessor, but I'm also behind because he isn't getting his inputs entered timely enough.

SMH

I really should have known better. At least the benefits are good....

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Benefits!
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RE: Benefits!
Sep 20th 2021
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RE: Benefits!
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if you look at my paid holidays and my vacation time. I get a solid mont...
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its all about that Medical
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They had a good clip on Wu Tang’s second season on Hulu
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The saddest, truest, realest shit I ever saw.
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jimaveli
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Mon Sep-20-21 12:04 PM

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1. "Benefits!"
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Companies do NOT do a good job of laying out their benefits along with their salaries.

And people don't always consider these things the way they should when taking/changing jobs.

As you get older, benefits end up being big business: vacation days, 401K matching, medical, sick days, etcetera.

And now, the whole work from home and/or work schedule thing plays big now too, right? Lots of gigs seem to be trying to do a hybrid of some kind to get the best of both worlds, but it still seems messy for the industries/bosses that don't have it figured out.

My gig has 'core hours' where they expect everyone to be available (9 AM to 4 PM). Besides that, its dowhatchalike (I see guys and girls dancin) for getting the rest of your hours for each day. Some folks take extensive liberties with that and I don't love it, but hey..its something.

At the risk of being even more philosophical, too many people don't consider 'environment' until they're in a bad one. AKA you can't just assume that you're going to be working around decent folks who openly try to do a good job everyday. And management? Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiid...good luck! As more places become hyper focused on 'KPIs', you have less and less folks who understand that management is more than 'staring at graphs' and acting confused when things don't look good per those graphs. And even with that, if you're graphs don't track basically EVERYTHING, you're basically training your group to only care about certain parts of their job even if it is at the expense of other things.

>Labor day, first day on my new job, etc. Had to take some
>off.
>
>Anywho
>
>What y'all been up to? This new job is a mess, as always
>HOWEVER they made it seem like a dream. At this point, I may
>have to do my subordinate's job for a week or so to get him
>caught up, or fire this fool, because not only am I behind due
>to my predecessor, but I'm also behind because he isn't
>getting his inputs entered timely enough.
>
>SMH
>
>I really should have known better. At least the benefits are
>good....

  

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mista k5
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Mon Sep-20-21 12:43 PM

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2. "RE: Benefits!"
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>Companies do NOT do a good job of laying out their benefits
>along with their salaries.

maybe, some jobs oversell them and try to convince you youre really making more than you are because of the legally mandated "benefits" they give you.

>
>And people don't always consider these things the way they
>should when taking/changing jobs.
>
>As you get older, benefits end up being big business: vacation
>days, 401K matching, medical, sick days, etcetera.

i think im at a point where the above are more important to me than just a raise. before i didnt really have the luxury to value those more than being paid fairly.

>
>And now, the whole work from home and/or work schedule thing
>plays big now too, right? Lots of gigs seem to be trying to do
>a hybrid of some kind to get the best of both worlds, but it
>still seems messy for the industries/bosses that don't have it
>figured out.

would be nice if my job considered this.

>
>My gig has 'core hours' where they expect everyone to be
>available (9 AM to 4 PM). Besides that, its dowhatchalike (I
>see guys and girls dancin) for getting the rest of your hours
>for each day. Some folks take extensive liberties with that
>and I don't love it, but hey..its something.

that seems cool. i do wish more companies focused on the work that needs to get done instead of over-focusing on punctuality and looking busy for 8 hours.

>
>At the risk of being even more philosophical, too many people
>don't consider 'environment' until they're in a bad one. AKA
>you can't just assume that you're going to be working around
>decent folks who openly try to do a good job everyday.

how can you properly judge this before accepting a job though?

>And management? Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiid...good luck! As more places
>become hyper focused on 'KPIs', you have less and less folks
>who understand that management is more than 'staring at
>graphs' and acting confused when things don't look good per
>those graphs. And even with that, if you're graphs don't track
>basically EVERYTHING, you're basically training your group to
>only care about certain parts of their job even if it is at
>the expense of other things.
>

i started keeping a log of all my activities with start dates and complete dates for each milestone since we dont have software to do this. ive resisted doing this for the first 4 years because it is time consuming and if no one is reviewing it what is the point. i did this more so to keep track of my work and to be able to tell easier where something is stuck. its usually not with me. it feels like i spend half my time updating the log though.

  

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jimaveli
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Mon Sep-20-21 04:23 PM

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7. "RE: Benefits!"
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Judging 'environment'? Yeah, its tough. But my point was that lots of people assume the best with absolutely no supporting information when changing gigs. IE: they think if they leave a job they don't like, the next one will certainly be better just because they might have a good convo with HR or the hiring person at the next place.

OR

More dangerously than that, folks might have a decent enough gig in terms of who they work with but they want to leave to 'make more money'. And when they find that gig with more money, they assume that the environment will be at least equal at the next place. Then you show up and your coworkers are assclowns and/or the people you actually work for are dummies, jerks, or dumb jerks.

>>Companies do NOT do a good job of laying out their benefits
>>along with their salaries.
>
>maybe, some jobs oversell them and try to convince you youre
>really making more than you are because of the legally
>mandated "benefits" they give you.
>
>>
>>And people don't always consider these things the way they
>>should when taking/changing jobs.
>>
>>As you get older, benefits end up being big business:
>vacation
>>days, 401K matching, medical, sick days, etcetera.
>
>i think im at a point where the above are more important to me
>than just a raise. before i didnt really have the luxury to
>value those more than being paid fairly.
>
>>
>>And now, the whole work from home and/or work schedule thing
>>plays big now too, right? Lots of gigs seem to be trying to
>do
>>a hybrid of some kind to get the best of both worlds, but it
>>still seems messy for the industries/bosses that don't have
>it
>>figured out.
>
>would be nice if my job considered this.
>
>>
>>My gig has 'core hours' where they expect everyone to be
>>available (9 AM to 4 PM). Besides that, its dowhatchalike (I
>>see guys and girls dancin) for getting the rest of your
>hours
>>for each day. Some folks take extensive liberties with that
>>and I don't love it, but hey..its something.
>
>that seems cool. i do wish more companies focused on the work
>that needs to get done instead of over-focusing on punctuality
>and looking busy for 8 hours.
>
>>
>>At the risk of being even more philosophical, too many
>people
>>don't consider 'environment' until they're in a bad one. AKA
>>you can't just assume that you're going to be working around
>>decent folks who openly try to do a good job everyday.
>
>how can you properly judge this before accepting a job
>though?
>
>>And management? Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiid...good luck! As more
>places
>>become hyper focused on 'KPIs', you have less and less folks
>>who understand that management is more than 'staring at
>>graphs' and acting confused when things don't look good per
>>those graphs. And even with that, if you're graphs don't
>track
>>basically EVERYTHING, you're basically training your group
>to
>>only care about certain parts of their job even if it is at
>>the expense of other things.
>>
>
>i started keeping a log of all my activities with start dates
>and complete dates for each milestone since we dont have
>software to do this. ive resisted doing this for the first 4
>years because it is time consuming and if no one is reviewing
>it what is the point. i did this more so to keep track of my
>work and to be able to tell easier where something is stuck.
>its usually not with me. it feels like i spend half my time
>updating the log though.

  

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spades
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4. "if you look at my paid holidays and my vacation time. I get a solid mont..."
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every year.

That MEANS something.

And considering all this shit is basically cloud based.... In a few months I'm going to make a play for working from home. If I can.

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rdhull
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3. "its all about that Medical"
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Mon Sep-20-21 02:12 PM by rdhull

  

          

What you get covered, cost regarding how many family members, what youll get covered when you retire

everything else is secondary, best believe

  

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legsdiamond
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5. "They had a good clip on Wu Tang’s second season on Hulu"
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Dude caught the bus and saw an old hustler driving the bus and was like “what happened to you???”

dude broke it down real quick on some “do the math”

Even if he had 3 mill stashed away he couldn’t live off it for 30 years..

said a pension and benefits were a better hustle long term than selling drugs when it came to taking care of family

Obvious shit but it was still a good scene to see a drug dealer realize he needed a
legal hustle

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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spades
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6. "The saddest, truest, realest shit I ever saw."
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"You probably wouldn't worry about what people think of you if you could know how seldom they do!" - Olin Miller

  

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