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Doomdata21
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"Andrew Cuomo"
Tue Aug-03-21 10:28 AM by Doomdata21

  

          

Watching this presser on the investigation findings and yeah... he gone.

edit: Mixed him up with his dear old Pa lol

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NY1.com has the 168 page report
Aug 03rd 2021
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RE: NY1.com has the 168 page report
Aug 03rd 2021
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He will not resign
Aug 03rd 2021
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well now we know why he didn't run for president lol
Aug 03rd 2021
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I don't think this was the reason.
Aug 03rd 2021
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^
Aug 03rd 2021
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It was part of it...IMO
Aug 05th 2021
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      RE: It was part of it...IMO
Aug 06th 2021
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....because sex scandals have held so many back.
Aug 03rd 2021
6
      45 was a different thing all together lol...
Aug 05th 2021
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why is it so difficult for these folks to resign?
Aug 05th 2021
8
RE: why is it so difficult for these folks to resign?
Aug 05th 2021
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I was thinking the opposite. I don't see why any person resigns these d...
Aug 05th 2021
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RE: I was thinking the opposite. I don't see why any person resigns the...
Aug 05th 2021
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One more thing...
Aug 05th 2021
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Power concedes nothing without a struggle.
Aug 10th 2021
32
Democrats riding the high and mighty.....
Aug 05th 2021
11
Biden wasted no time throwing Cuomo under the bus.. lol
Aug 05th 2021
14
toss him in the bushes, bring in Hochul
Aug 05th 2021
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Hopefully Holcul isn't one of his hatchet women
Aug 06th 2021
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      she isn't. she's actually the Clean Up Woman
Aug 13th 2021
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           out of curiosity
Mar 23rd 2022
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Gone (c)
Aug 10th 2021
20
thank God he didnt drag things out.
Aug 10th 2021
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      He just made sure to do it as the infrastructure bill was being voted on
Aug 10th 2021
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      lol i thought about this too.
Aug 10th 2021
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      RE: thank God he didnt drag things out.
Aug 10th 2021
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           she has a lot on her plate right off the bat.
Aug 10th 2021
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When you don’t have a brainwashed cult behind you....
Aug 10th 2021
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But it is interesting to consider 1000s of deaths wasn’t the reason
Aug 10th 2021
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      RE: But it is interesting to consider 1000s of deaths wasn’t the reaso...
Aug 10th 2021
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      If I'm not mistaken
Aug 10th 2021
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      the coverup of that is what should’ve gotten him IMO
Aug 10th 2021
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           ^^Tell me why??
Aug 10th 2021
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                RE: delayed
Aug 10th 2021
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                     Delay form being categorized - not from being reported, right?
Aug 10th 2021
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                          No snark, you obviously have the internet but you’re asking me
Aug 10th 2021
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                          RE: Delay form being categorized - not from being reported, right?
Aug 10th 2021
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Cuomo's lawyer's other job: railroading a lawyer who sued Chevron
Aug 10th 2021
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I see your Chevron lawyer and raise you Times Up board director
Aug 10th 2021
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      It's a big club, and we're not in it
Aug 11th 2021
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Biden: Cuomo did "helluva job"
Aug 11th 2021
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RE: Biden: Cuomo did "helluva job"
Aug 11th 2021
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NY Outside
Aug 11th 2021
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something about this makes me uncomfortable
Aug 11th 2021
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definitely
Aug 11th 2021
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It was the whole shebang...
Aug 11th 2021
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generational and cultural shifts…made me uncomfortable
Aug 12th 2021
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Cuomo was too powerful, a seasoned politician w/ roots going
Aug 12th 2021
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who’s qualified to run NY now?
Aug 12th 2021
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      RE: who’s qualified to run NY now?
Aug 12th 2021
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      Cynthia Nixon?????????
Aug 12th 2021
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           RE: Cynthia Nixon?????????
Aug 12th 2021
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                I don't live in NY - but I vote for people with experience
Aug 12th 2021
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                     I fundamentally disagree with that premise
Aug 13th 2021
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                          I guess I see governemnt as a JOB
Aug 13th 2021
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                               RE: I guess I see governemnt as a JOB
Aug 13th 2021
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      RE: who’s qualified to run NY now?
Aug 12th 2021
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      Cuomo and Spitzer were AGs…I’d start there
Aug 13th 2021
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Cuomo is a POS that used his power to do folks dirty for years...
Aug 12th 2021
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RE: Andrew Cuomo
Aug 12th 2021
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I'm waiting for the NDAs
Aug 12th 2021
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Great interview
Aug 12th 2021
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maybe we should stop electing political families?
Aug 12th 2021
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correct
Aug 12th 2021
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      LOL true.
Aug 12th 2021
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      Upstate New York is fairly conservative
Aug 13th 2021
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           I think the Upstate/Conservative angle is fair...
Aug 13th 2021
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                Buff/Roc/Cuse/Albany are at least moderately liberal
Aug 13th 2021
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Something is very rotten in (upstate) Gotham
Aug 13th 2021
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Impeachment would bar him from running/holding public office
Aug 13th 2021
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      Seeing and hearing Cuomo's smug
Mar 23rd 2022
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Sen Andrea Stewart-Cousins would "give free breakfast to all Black peopl...
Aug 19th 2021
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12K added to NY Covid death toll
Aug 26th 2021
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12k of suspected covid deaths (vs confirmed by lab)
Aug 27th 2021
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Fuck Cuomo and that entire family...
Aug 26th 2021
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they're literal fucking scum...
Aug 27th 2021
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damn man i kinda discovered Chris' show on cnn while being
Aug 27th 2021
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He shit on Trump and is reasonably intelligent
Aug 27th 2021
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      care to expound? like i said i kinda started checking him and Lemon
Aug 27th 2021
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      Like letting some 15 000 elderly folks die in those COVID-infected
Mar 23rd 2022
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           ^^Knows nothing - but is LOUD
Mar 23rd 2022
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                Cuomo lied egregiously...
Mar 24th 2022
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                     Your goalpost moving doesn't make me wrong
Mar 24th 2022
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agreed. The Cuomo family has been bad for the state of New York.
Mar 26th 2022
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Was thinking about how many of these Trump "foes" have fallen
Mar 23rd 2022
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i'm sure you could do this with trump supporters too
Mar 24th 2022
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      for sure
Mar 24th 2022
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1. "NY1.com has the 168 page report"
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Here's the link: https://www.ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/politics/2021/08/03/attorney-general-letitia-james-cuomo-investigation

I can't watch the press conference because I'm at work, so I'm skimming the report. Cuomo is a pretty wild dude. He had to have known this shoe was going to drop eventually.

Very very curious what the fallout will be from this.

If I'm not mistaken, the state legislature is still investigating whether or not to impeach him. I think that investigation covers the harassment claims and if he improperly used his office when he wrote that moronic book about NYS dealing with COVID.

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2. "RE: NY1.com has the 168 page report"
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You're right about that coinciding investigation in the assembly. This is all wild.

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3. "He will not resign"
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Maintains his innocence...

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4. "well now we know why he didn't run for president lol"
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5. "I don't think this was the reason."
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As President, Cuomo would be a smaller fish in a much bigger pond compared to how he operates now as governor. Congress as it stands now how much more influence over what the president can or can't do compared to the minimal influence the NY state legislature has over Cuomo. I truly think Cuomo likes the degree of power he has as governor.

Also keep in mind both Biden and Trump each had more than one women accuse them of sexual harassment and they each were able to become president after the allegations became public.

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7. "^"
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mi malo didn't see this at first.

co-sign tho.

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10. "It was part of it...IMO"
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People may have forgotten the original scandal was Cuomo sending elderly covid patients back to their nursing homes

...then the sexual harassment/assault allegations surfaced...

Cuomo pushed through medicaid cuts before the pandemic
which set the stage for hospitals to be overwhelmed

That was the initial scandal...and it has mostly been forgotten after the sex scandal was frontpage

I would assume...if we were to dig through the decade of his record as gov...we would find more

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18. "RE: It was part of it...IMO"
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>People may have forgotten the original scandal was Cuomo
>sending elderly covid patients back to their nursing homes
>
>...then the sexual harassment/assault allegations surfaced...
>
>Cuomo pushed through medicaid cuts before the pandemic
>which set the stage for hospitals to be overwhelmed
>
>That was the initial scandal...and it has mostly been
>forgotten after the sex scandal was frontpage
>
>I would assume...if we were to dig through the decade of his
>record as gov...we would find more


The litany of allegations started to come out after a state senator Ron Kim barked back at Cuomo in regards to the nursing home scandal. Cuomo himself called Ron Kim's personal cell or land line late after hours to berate him over the nursing home scandal. Ron Kim publicly scolded Cuomo for the bully tactics. If memory serves me right, Letica James' office then put out the report of Cuomo's head for the Dept of Health fudging numbers of folks dying in nursing homes as result of COVID. Once Cuomo's aura in invincibility cracked as result of those two incidents, that's when the multiple women started to reveal what Cuomo did to them.

The very first woman that made the allegations against Cuomo did it months before others came forward. It just so happened that Cuomo and his cronies were able to sweep it under the rug because there wasn't additional bad press on him at the time.

I will agree with you on digging through his history to find a lot more dirt on him, and I'm not just talking about his harassing women. He skated on doing a paltry job with an investigation on improperly ethics years upon years ago.

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6. "....because sex scandals have held so many back."
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we saw/heard trump on tape, fam.

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12. "45 was a different thing all together lol..."
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>we saw/heard trump on tape, fam.



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8. "why is it so difficult for these folks to resign?"
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what are you standing on? even if you're 'innocent', you're not helping your constituents with a fight. just seems selfish.

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9. "RE: why is it so difficult for these folks to resign?"
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He is who we thought he was.

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13. "I was thinking the opposite. I don't see why any person resigns these d..."
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We've seen so many politicians weather the storm I don't see what they gain by quiting in the midst of everyone talking about it when it seems the media has the attention span of a chipmunk.


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15. "RE: I was thinking the opposite. I don't see why any person resigns the..."
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The way I'm seeing it is that, in this case, it will be a slow moving car crash. This will not leave the news cycle because of the nature of the allegations/confirmation by the authorities. He WILL try and out maneuver those in the assembly... but he doesn't have the juice he once had. They're already looking to draft articles of impeachment which will probably be on the table in weeks. Meanwhile, there's another investigation over the funeral home Covid fiasco. Fight as he may, these are perfect storm level seas to navigate.

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16. "One more thing..."
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during the presser, they stipulated that Cuomo is also likely having to deal with a criminal probe by the police/local DA's regarding the groping incident in Westchester. I think this is a 45 play to stay in power to preserve some level of immunity/control over that as long as possible. He could possibly end up rocking orange... though I'm sure most would doubt that outcome.

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32. "Power concedes nothing without a struggle."
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11. "Democrats riding the high and mighty....."
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After rolling with Bill and Hillary for years......ok. But this Cuomo investigation is the straw?

  

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14. "Biden wasted no time throwing Cuomo under the bus.. lol"
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17. "toss him in the bushes, bring in Hochul"
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I only lament the fact that neither the Medicaid defunding nor the nursing home disaster didn't get his ass outta here.

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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19. "Hopefully Holcul isn't one of his hatchet women"
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The way Cuomo operates, I'm seriously hoping that isn't the case. I do wonder who the next non-incumbent Governor will be when the next election happens. Democrats here in NY State have to be very careful because it is a possibility a Republican could take his Cuomo's spot if he makes leaving a complete disaster. The faster the assembly removes him, the better it will be for the state, which I'm sure the Democrats in the state are well aware of.

I have to assume Republicans are trying to groom a somewhat centrist candidate to replace Cuomo at the moment so that a joke of a candidate like Giuliani's son isn't on the ballot as the candidate at the end of the Republican primary.

I'm 50/50 on Leticia James taking his spot because it would look very opportunistic if that happens, but part of me wouldn't mind that deeply.

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69. "she isn't. she's actually the Clean Up Woman"
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Maddow did an outstanding package on the other time she rolled in after a string of scandalized male politicians resigned in shame & disgrace. This will be the 2nd time for her.

so She Ready.

oh and y'all need to just stop seeking positions of power.

kthxbye

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79. "out of curiosity"
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>oh and y'all need to just stop seeking positions of power.
>
>kthxbye

what does this mean?

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20. "Gone (c)"
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https://apnews.com/article/andrew-cuomo-new-york-17161f546bb83c32a337036ecf8d2a34

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21. "thank God he didnt drag things out."
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22. "He just made sure to do it as the infrastructure bill was being voted on"
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lol

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25. "lol i thought about this too."
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fucked up all the biden victory lap.

  

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24. "RE: thank God he didnt drag things out."
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It was turning into a really bad car accident where you knew the result would slow up traffic for hours. First woman up.

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26. "she has a lot on her plate right off the bat."
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im rooting for her.

  

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23. "When you don’t have a brainwashed cult behind you...."
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you can’t just lie/ignore it and keep going. Accountability reigns.

  

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27. "But it is interesting to consider 1000s of deaths wasn’t the reason "
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Sexually harassing women was
Still a disappointing narrative on society IMO

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28. "RE: But it is interesting to consider 1000s of deaths wasn’t the reaso..."
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Dat priority!

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29. "If I'm not mistaken"
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the state assembly is still investigating Cuomo and the NYS Health Department's response to COVID along with the harassment allegations.

It was the federal gov't that cleared him of any wrong doing with the state's COVID response.

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30. "the coverup of that is what should’ve gotten him IMO"
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33. "^^Tell me why??"
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I understand the story is like this:

If a person got sick and died of COVID while in a nursing home it was reported as a COVID death in a nursing home.

If a person got sick with COVID while in a nursing home and THEN was transported to a hospital and THEN died in the hospital it was reported as a COVID death in a hospital and not a COVID death in a nursing home.

Did I miss something in the 'scandal?' I *honestly* want to know.


Edit;I looked, t says they recorded deaths but delayed releasing the numbers for MONTHS. I was not aware of that. I'm not clear if it was just they were in a nursing home when they GOT COVID or not. I think the numbers of deaths was accurate - just the reporting was not what people expected - and maybe he did that ON PURPOSE.

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34. "RE: delayed "
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I know it’s hard to remember after all that we’ve been through since…
…but what happened during the ‘delay’…
He signed a $5M book deal, based on some courage under fire pretext
and was being pegged as a POTUS candidate because of his assumed ability to deal with the crisis

He lied.
He lied about the numbers
He lied about the deaths…until he got caught = delayed

Again, remembering the beginning
It didn’t start in NYC, but NYC was the first epicenter
Remember the refrigerated trucks outside of over run hospitals = he also made cuts to medicaid and hospital budgets

The estimates keep changing…I heard 4500 deaths can be directly attributed to his policy decisions and real time handling of the crisis
Just heard a number as high as 15000

Just saying, those women deserve justice…but the buck should’ve stopped at the bodies.

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36. "Delay form being categorized - not from being reported, right?"
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So if 1,000 people died and he said they were all in the hospital and then months later he went back and reclassified a lot of them as nursing hope deaths - that's the delay you mean??

or did he OMIT deaths to make the total tally look smaller.

Because I don't know how that means his policies killed people - and if he reported the actual number of dead but classified them as being hospital deaths - well I see why that wasn't the reason he resigned.

Now if 100,000 people died and he said only 5,000 people died then later said "Oh yeah, and 95,000" more then that's totally different.


>The estimates keep changing…I heard 4500 deaths can be
>directly attributed to his policy decisions and real time
>handling of the crisis
>Just heard a number as high as 15000

So your saying a policy decision he made killed 4500-15000 people directly? How so?

I think what he did is say these 10,000 people died at the hospital. And people think he should have said 'these nursing home residents died in a nursing home' because they probably caught it in the nursing home and not the hospital.

I don't recall him lying about total deaths - but i could be wrong.


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37. "No snark, you obviously have the internet but you’re asking me"
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to explain it from memory

https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/15/politics/andrew-cuomo-covid-19-controversy-explained/index.html

I don’t think there’s anything he didn’t try
Undercounting
Underreporting
Misclassifying…
etc

It looks obvious to me the answer to your question is yes
He did alladat.

You’re free to look into it yourself but this is what always stood out to me

‘the decision to discharge recovering residents from hospitals back to nursing homes’

There wasn’t a question at that time about the virus
He sent infected elderly patients back to their nursing homes.

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38. "RE: Delay form being categorized - not from being reported, right?"
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Here’s AG’s press release

https://ag.ny.gov/press-release/2021/attorney-general-james-releases-report-nursing-homes-response-covid-19

…and report…

https://ag.ny.gov/sites/default/files/2021-nursinghomesreport.pdf

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31. "Cuomo's lawyer's other job: railroading a lawyer who sued Chevron"
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Rita Glavin is like the Forrest Gump of American corruption.

https://gizmodo.com/the-biggest-climate-trial-of-the-year-was-a-chevron-fue-1846920362

The Biggest Climate Trial of the Year Was a Chevron-Fueled ‘Charade’

by Dharna Noor 5/19/2021

After a week of proceedings, the criminal trial for attorney Steven Donziger—who won a multibillion-dollar case against Chevron over pollution in the Amazon rainforest—wrapped up on Monday. In his estimation, the trial was a “charade.” And yet he was relatively pleased with the outcome.

“Given that we stood no chance to win the actual trial, the proceeding could not be better for us,” he said.

Donziger led a case against Chevron on behalf of 30,000 Indigenous people and peasant farmers from the Ecuadorian Amazon. In 2013, he won a $9.5 billion judgment against the energy giant, marking the largest human rights and environmental court judgment in history. Chevron refused to pay and instead put all its energy into going after Donziger in court in what is one of the most outlandish cases to wend its way through the courts in recent memory. Donziger has been under house arrest for going on 22 months, a judge with an industry-friendly record has been handpicked to preside over the proceedings, and the prosecuting lawyer worked until recently at a private law firm with ties to Chevron.

The trial, which began on May 10, focused on misdemeanor charges of criminal contempt against Donziger for disobeying court orders, the charge that landed him in home detention. Specifically, Donziger refused to hand over his laptop, cell phone, and other electronic devices when the court ordered him to so back in 2019. He said doing so would violate his legal clients’ privacy.

If found guilty, Donziger could face up to six months of prison time. He and his lawyers have no doubt he’ll be convicted.

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“No justice will be done here,” Martin Garbus, an attorney representing Donziger, said in the courtroom on the first day of the trial.

The criminal charges against Donziger are unusual, as they were brought by a private prosecutor, Rita Glavin, who until March was a partner at the law firm Seward and Kissel. Last year, Seward and Kissel admitted that they’d represented Chevron as a client as recently as 2018, confirming Donziger’s lawyer’s suspicions and posing a glaring conflict of interest. U.S. District Court Judge Lewis Kaplan, who presided over a 2012 RICO case against Donziger, appointed Glavin to bring the charges after public prosecutors refused to do so, a move previously unheard of in the American judiciary.

The contempt trial was overseen by Loretta Preska, the same federal judge who placed Donziger on house arrest in 2019. She was also selected to oversee the criminal case by Kaplan. Handpicking a judge for a case went against the standard process of random assignment that the court normally uses, and Preska’s role an advisor to the pro-business Federalist Society and documented history of ruling in favor of energy companies has raised concerns for Donziger’s supporters.

Paul Paz y Miño, the associate director of Amazon Watch, said that Preska has applied the rules of the court selectively. She invoked them last month in her decision to disallow the criminal trial to be broadcast on Zoom despite clear public interest. Then as the trial was beginning, Paz y Miño said, she invoked court rules when Donziger’s supporters wanted to sit in the part of court designated for journalists.

“She said the Southern District doesn’t allow people who aren’t press in the press area,” he said. “But she had no problem ignoring the rules when the case was assigned to her by Kaplan. ... The hypocrisy is full on display.”

Paz y Miño said Preska’s biases only became more clear as the proceedings began. From the first day, she said that she was not interested in hearing from Donziger’s lawyers about why he refused to turn over his laptop and cell phone—namely that doing so would violate attorney-client privileges. A judge for a related trial ruled that the sanctions Kaplan placed on Donziger were not clear and should be overturned in March, but put Preska deemed all of that irrelevant.

“She said he was given an order by a federal judge, he didn’t comply, he’s held in contempt. She pretty much said everything short of ‘you’re guilty’ on the first day of the trial,” Paz y Miño said.

As the trial continued, Paz y Miño said Preska continued to conduct herself unfairly. He said she only sustained one of Donziger’s team’s objections to the proceedings, whereas she upheld all but one of the prosecution’s.

Kaplan’s role in the trial also made supporters raise their eyebrows. It’s Kaplan’s orders Donziger is being accused of disobeying, so he is the aggrieved party. Despite this, he chose the judge to preside over the case. Further, he has not recused himself from the case, so he could still be in communication with Glavin, the private lawyer prosecuting Donziger.

Donziger’s team believed the trial was so clearly unfair that they spent just 10 minutes on defense arguments on Monday. Donziger himself didn’t even testify in court.

“I just was advised by my lawyers that it would not be a good idea, and as I thought it through, it just didn’t make sense,” he said at a press conference. “It wouldn’t have moved the needle.”

Closing arguments will be submitted in writing in two weeks, and a decision is expected sometime after that. Though Donziger has no question he’ll be convicted, he said the trial could actually help him construct a solid appeal if and when he is convicted because it so clearly demonstrated the reasons that the case was unfairly biased and should be thrown out.

“This trial had already been decided and the purpose of the proceeding was to try to glom on a veneer of due process over a decision that I think was made behind closed doors by judges,” he said, noting the circumstances “seriously strengthen our appeal.”

Support for his plight is also building elsewhere. Last month, U.S. representatives including Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Rep. Cori Bush, sent a letter to Attorney General Merrick Garland asking him to review the case. Whatever the verdict, it almost certainly won’t be the end of the case.




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35. "I see your Chevron lawyer and raise you Times Up board director "
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Wonder if there’s any connection to the Chevron judge…?

https://apnews.com/article/roberta-kaplan-times-up-resigns-f549dee46459e588797e1199376d632b

Time’s Up leader resigns after criticism about Cuomo ties
By MARINA VILLENEUVE
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FILE - Roberta Kaplan poses for a photo in Atherton Calif., Tuesday, Nov. 12, 2019. The Time's Up leader resigned Monday, Aug. 9, 2021 over fallout from her work advising Gov. Andrew Cuomo's administration when he was first hit with sexual harassment allegations last year. Kaplan cited her work counseling Cuomo and his former top aide, Melissa DeRosa, through the attorney general's investigation, according to The New York Times. (AP Photo/D. Ross Cameron, File)
NEW YORK (AP) — The leader of Time’s Up, the #MeToo-era organization founded by Hollywood women to fight sexual harassment, resigned under fire Monday for advising Gov. Andrew Cuomo’s administration behind the scenes in its effort to discredit one of Cuomo’s accusers.

Time’s Up said in a tweet that it agreed with Roberta Kaplan that stepping down as chair of the group’s board of directors was “the right and appropriate thing to do.”

A report issued last week by New York’s attorney general concluded that Cuomo sexually harassed 11 women. The allegations have thrown the Democrat’s career into extreme peril, threatening him with the possibility of both impeachment and criminal charges.

Kaplan, a women’s rights advocate who has a law practice of her own, counseled the administration last winter when Cuomo was hit with the first of the harassment allegations, leveled by a former economic development adviser, Lindsey Boylan.

Both Kaplan and Alphonso David, leader of the Human Rights Campaign, were consulted over a letter the Cuomo administration had drafted attacking Boylan’s credibility. Kaplan and David agreed to review the letter.

According to the attorney general’s report, Kaplan told the administration that with some adjustments, the letter would be fine to send out. David, a former counsel to Cuomo, declined to sign the letter but agreed to contact other people to see if they would. Other advisers, though, said it was a bad idea, and the letter was never widely disseminated.

Kaplan’s role in advising the Cuomo administration stunned sexual assault victims and others. Several past backers of Time’s Up sent an open letter Monday demanding an investigation, charging that the organization’s leaders “align themselves with abusers at the expense of survivors.”

“TIME’S UP should be ashamed,” the letter said.

Activist Alison Turkos, who organized the letter, said sexual assault victims feel they have been abandoned by purported advocates who were secretly working for the other side.

“How are you telling survivors, ‘We’re a safe space for you, come to us,’ but behind closed doors you are handing abusers a playbook of how to cover up and retaliate against your victims?” asked Turkos, whose letter was signed by dozens of self-described victims, including Cuomo accuser Charlotte Bennett.

In her resignation letter, Kaplan said she had “reluctantly come to the conclusion that an active law practice is no longer compatible” with serving on the Time’s Up board.

She added: “Unfortunately, recent events have made it clear that even our apparent allies in the fight to advance women can turn out to be abusers” — a reference to Cuomo’s public support of the #MeToo movement, which included his signing of sweeping new protections in 2019 against sexual harassment.

In addition to advising the Cuomo administration, Kaplan had more recently done legal work representing Melissa DeRosa, a top aide to Cuomo who resigned Sunday after the attorney general’s report portrayed her as playing a central role in the effort to retaliate against Boylan.

Meanwhile, the Human Rights Campaign said it is launching an investigation of the “appropriateness” of David’s actions.

David, in a statement Monday, said he welcomed that review amid what he called “multiple inaccuracies (that) have been circulating.” He said he only learned of the governor’s alleged misconduct from the Attorney General’s report, and said he neither signed nor circulated the letter. He did acknowledge turning over ’an electric copy of a counseling memo regarding a state employee” after he left government, but said he was legally obligated to do so.

“I have called for his resignation and reiterate that call today,” he said of Cuomo.

Kaplan in 2018 co-founded Time’s Up Legal Defense Fund, which helps women who have been subjected to sexual harassment and discrimination in the workplace.

She successfully represented Edith Windsor before the U.S. Supreme Court in 2013, winning the case that struck down laws against gay marriage across the U.S. She later published a book about the case, “Then Comes Marriage.”

Kaplan also represents writer E. Jean Carroll, who filed a defamation lawsuit against Donald Trump in 2019 related to her claim that the former president raped her in a department store dressing room in the 1990s. Trump has denied Carroll’s allegations.

Carroll supported Kaplan in a tweet Monday.

“Robbie Kaplan is my attorney and will always be my attorney. She over-turned DOMA which ushered in Gay Rights. She’s fighting the Nazi’s in Charlottesville. She is leading the battle for gender equality in women’s sports. She is the best lawyer in America!!” she wrote.

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Associated Press reporter Maryclaire Dale contributed to this report from Philadelphia.



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41. "It's a big club, and we're not in it"
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I'm sure there is a connection. They're rich New Yorkers, so they're probably all friends. Sadly, doesn't seem to require much more than that. Same effect as that Brian Stelter interview about Chris/Andrew Cuomo when he kind of shrugs that CNN is in this really weird situation where they have a journalist who comes from a rich and powerful family and he and his brother are in positions to benefit each other and, gosh, what are you gonna do?

The answer "stop letting our ruling class pretend that inter-personal relationships are a stand-in for politics" doesn't seem to have occurred to him.

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39. "Biden: Cuomo did "helluva job""
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sheesh

  

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40. "RE: Biden: Cuomo did "helluva job""
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Not a fan of Biden, but he must succeed.

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42. "NY Outside "
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https://youtu.be/NF75d5GCGXE

  

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43. "something about this makes me uncomfortable"
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I do think it was a political take down.

who’s going to run NY now?

  

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45. "It was the whole shebang..."
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Cuomo deserved this ending the way he's been playing the political game over the years, but it was a collective "Get out!" by his enemies as well. He's been very cunning in his political gamesmanship but it came back to bite him in the arse. You gotta be Frank Underwood from HOC to navigate that level of NY politics and escape unscathed... and even he got got.

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46. "generational and cultural shifts…made me uncomfortable "
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Of course it’s politics
He’s a legacy
Married a Kennedy
Was NY AG before Gov
His whole life is politics

Doesn’t excuse his behavior or incompetence as a leader
This isn’t an Al Franken situation
He did that.

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47. "Cuomo was too powerful, a seasoned politician w/ roots going"
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back to his daddy and a bulldog lawyer, he had to be taken down one way or another.

plus, his accusers got photos of them hugging and being real cozy, all snuggled up in his embrace.

but AC is still a pos for defending Spitzer and Patterson, creeps will protect creeps.

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49. "who’s qualified to run NY now?"
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run it in a way that we don’t have to worry about a joe manchin type…that’s what I’m worried about. I’m familiar with hochul and she’s not it.

his character and accusations are moot…

  

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50. "RE: who’s qualified to run NY now?"
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So on my shortlist (I'm NYC Centric), I got Letitia James(fellow HU Alum) and Cynthia Nixon(she had a good progressive campaign against a well liked Cuomo) possibly running for the office who I'd vote for.

I'm thinking the field will end up being a laundry list of those looking to increase name recognition. NY turns into Kentucky with less black people past Westchester to me.

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52. "Cynthia Nixon?????????"
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>So on my shortlist (I'm NYC Centric), I got Letitia
>James(fellow HU Alum) and Cynthia Nixon(she had a good
>progressive campaign against a well liked Cuomo) possibly
>running for the office who I'd vote for.

She has no experience at any level in governing and you support her for the GOVERNOR of New York as her first government job??

This is what people thought who voted for Trump.

He was incompetent and did not/does not know how government works - and we don't know if she will be too. (She can not be as bad as Trump.)

She should get some experience before taking on that job. Run for Mayor or Congress. She could have done that in 2020 but she did not.


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53. "RE: Cynthia Nixon?????????"
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Who would you have us vote for, Handle? As I said before, we're going to get a cavalcade of options and those were 2 off the top of my head that I would consider if they ran. Also, I voted for Nixon over Cuomo, and there I have been somewhat vindicated in several ways.

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59. "I don't live in NY - but I vote for people with experience"
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I mean if she had ANY experience. City council? Alderman? Mayor of a small town? Congress person? Worked in a government job?

She's just a TV personality with a message you like. That's pretty much how Trump won.

Vote for someone with a history of government service - not a personality who's only doing activism.

She was really in danger of splitting the vote and letting a Republican win - she didn't give a FUCK about that. Thankfully she was withdrawn by her 3rd party and did not appear on the final ballot.

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62. "I fundamentally disagree with that premise"
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I don't agree that you have to have run for a lesser office if the priniciples you stand behind align with what I support. I understand your argument, but I like to be more granular with my assessments given that the more "experienced" politicians can also be just as bad as inexperienced (see A. Cuomo).

Also, Nixon was taken off the Working Family Party's ballot spot and not Democratic Party spot. I doubt she would have split the vote that much. I'd like to see her run again if she's willing.

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65. "I guess I see governemnt as a JOB"
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And that people with some track record of actually getting stuff done in government is helpful.

Because a LOT of the job isn't about your overriding principle and affecting large social change - it's about keeping the lights on in the state. And a person with experience is more likely to be able to do that.

She has ZERO government experience trying to run the 3rd largest economy in the U.S.

Schwarzenegger was a disaster. So was Trump. They took on a role way bigger than their experience. At least Arnold was able to get SOME competent people to work with him - but he was not good.


>Also, Nixon was taken off the Working Family Party's ballot
>spot and not Democratic Party spot. I doubt she would have
>split the vote that much. I'd like to see her run again if
>she's willing.

If she was on the general ballot she would have split the vote - that's why they shit canned her (and the unions hated her.)

Hey it's a free country - you can vote for someone with no experience if they get you wet - fine by me. I'd like someone with AT LEAST SOME experience at some level of government so they aren't as easily fooled by people with experience when they get there. (But even some very experienced officials are gullible chumps.)

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66. "RE: I guess I see governemnt as a JOB"
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I honestly think it was more about Cuomo being vengeful towards a party like WFP and making it harder for them to even exist in NY (see Green Party). They bent the knee as a business decision.

I get the "Job" angle. I think that we need more than a bunch of lawyers and career politicians in these jobs to broaden the scope and understanding of societal needs. I imagine a career lawyer can't necessarily understand the general outlook of a career artist or engineer. I think government should have more that kind of representation. I'm not afraid of the result because if your platform is sound you can bring on a good team of people to color within the lines of governing, then you can succeed.

We need government to be more accessible to the general populace and not a playground for the Cuomos of the world. Cynthia Nixon showed me enough in her campaign that I thought it could be a positive thing.

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51. "RE: who’s qualified to run NY now?"
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>run it in a way that we don’t have to worry about a joe
>manchin type…that’s what I’m worried about. I’m
>familiar with hochul and she’s not it.

So you're saying she's conservative? If that's the case, I wonder how much the assembly and state senate will clash with her since the Dems in power are pretty liberal. I also have to think they'll look to reign in some of the power Cuomo took from them over his terms as governor.

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61. "Cuomo and Spitzer were AGs…I’d start there"
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54. "Cuomo is a POS that used his power to do folks dirty for years..."
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He is a narcissist. He has been a jerk since his days at HUD. His personality traits helped NY during COVID for a while when the State's needs aligned with his own but as soon as they didn't (nursing home scandal), you see what he did.

He has a list of enemies miles long and he deserved every one of them. He is vindictive as hell. They saw their opportunity and pounced. That is why you do not see any support for him in NYS. People were too afraid to challenge him previously. The harassment allegations finally made him vulnerable.

The allegations are a mess. The Executive Summary alone would have been enough to throw him out - https://spectrumlocalnews.com/nys/buffalo/politics/2021/08/03/attorney-general-letitia-james-cuomo-investigation

The future of the State is kind of unknown. My hope is that Tish James can run for Governor and win but she may be too progressive and too NYC to win the conservative upstate counties. It will most likely be Hochul or someone like her (Conservative Democrat) who will run things.

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48. "RE: Andrew Cuomo"
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Ya'll gotta listen to this David Paterson interview with Brian Lehrer. He's dumping the dirt on this man's political grave. The investigations will then exhume the body. My wife and I are howling at the tea spillage.

https://www.wnyc.org/shows/bl/

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55. "I'm waiting for the NDAs "
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That's how 'these' people get down
and he was a lawyer himself
I'd bet money there's NDAs

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58. "Great interview"
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Never thought about the necessity of an upstate/downtown ticket
being from the area, makes perfect sense
The story about asking if he wanted something to drink reminded me of this...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkN1rCPx4So
Dude woulda came back to the car w/o asking...and probably still get fiyah'd
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56. "maybe we should stop electing political families?"
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57. "correct"
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and also stop electing "moderates"
because that just means "Trump, but less white people like them"

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60. "LOL true."
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>and also stop electing "moderates"
>because that just means "Trump, but less white people like
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63. "Upstate New York is fairly conservative"
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>and also stop electing "moderates"
>because that just means "Trump, but less white people like
>them"

so as much as I'd like to see someone left leaning like Leticia James get in that governor's seat, this is easier said than done.

I'm happy the assembly and state senate for the time being are controlled by democrats at the moment. I wonder how much power they'll try to get back in terms of day to day government affairs and checks and balances now that Cuomo is gone.

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64. "I think the Upstate/Conservative angle is fair..."
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I haven't dug into it, but that "socialist" candidate who won mayor of Buffalo really intrigues me about the dynamic up there at the moment. This could speak to a more progressive minded person being a force for changing the whole equation upstate. Perhaps a roadmap has been developed.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/how-a-socialist-won-the-buffalo-mayoral-primary/ar-AALDdgQ

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70. "Buff/Roc/Cuse/Albany are at least moderately liberal"
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A few college towns like Ithaca are strongly liberal.

The rural areas and small towns(especially the poor ones) are as conservative as anywhere.

Same story as most of the country, I’d imagine.

  

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67. "Something is very rotten in (upstate) Gotham"
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link: https://gothamist.com/news/ny-assembly-suspends-impeachment-investigation-cuomos-actions

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NY Assembly Suspends Impeachment Investigation Into Cuomo's Actions
by Jen Chung

The New York Assembly will not move forward with its impeachment investigation of Governor Andrew Cuomo, Speaker Carl Heastie announced on Friday afternoon.

The Assembly's Judiciary Committee had been conducting an investigation of the governor's actions since March, and had requested evidence from the New York Attorney General's report outlining the governor's sexual misconduct and workplace violations. The committee had also given Cuomo and his legal team until 5 p.m. on Friday, August 13th, to submit any evidence they wanted the committee to consider. But Cuomo's decision to resign on August 24th raised questions about whether the legislature would be able to impeach him if he was already out of office. An impeachment would have meant that Cuomo would not be able to run for office again.

"First, the purpose of the impeachment investigation was to determine whether Governor Cuomo should remain in office. The governor’s resignation answers that directive," Heastie said in a statement. "Second, we have been advised by Chair Lavine - with the assistance of counsel - of the belief that the constitution does not authorize the legislature to impeach and remove an elected official who is no longer in office (see attached memo)."

However, Heastie did admit that "the committee’s work over the last several months, although not complete, did uncover credible evidence in relation to allegations that have been made in reference to the governor. Underscoring the depth of this investigation, this evidence concerned not only sexual harassment and misconduct but also the misuse of state resources in relation to the publication of the governor’s memoir as well as improper and misleading disclosure of nursing home data during the COVID-19 pandemic."

All evidence from the Assembly's investigation will be turned over to the various authorities investigating Cuomo. Some members of the Assembly had been pushing to move forward with an impeachment proceeding, citing the need for accountability, while others argued it would be a waste of time and money, as well as a distraction.

Here's Heastie's full statement (and memo):

After consulting with Chair Lavine and my majority colleagues, the Assembly will suspend its impeachment investigation upon the governor’s resignation taking effect on August 25.

There are two reasons for this decision. First, the purpose of the Assembly Judiciary Committee’s impeachment investigation was to determine whether Governor Cuomo should remain in office. The governor’s resignation answers that directive. Second, we have been advised by Chair Lavine - with the assistance of counsel - of the belief that the constitution does not authorize the legislature to impeach and remove an elected official who is no longer in office (see attached memo).

Let me be clear - the committee’s work over the last several months, although not complete, did uncover credible evidence in relation to allegations that have been made in reference to the governor. Underscoring the depth of this investigation, this evidence concerned not only sexual harassment and misconduct but also the misuse of state resources in relation to the publication of the governor’s memoir as well as improper and misleading disclosure of nursing home data during the COVID-19 pandemic.

This evidence - we believe - could likely have resulted in articles of impeachment had he not resigned.

I have asked Chair Lavine to turn over to the relevant investigatory authorities all the evidence the committee has gathered. We are well aware that the attorney general is investigating issues concerning the governor’s memoir; the Eastern District of the United States attorney has been investigating the administration’s actions concerning nursing home data; and there are active investigations by local law enforcement authorities in five jurisdictions - Manhattan, Albany, Westchester, Nassau and Oswego - concerning incidents of sexual misconduct.

As I have said, this has been a tragic chapter in our state’s history. The people of this great state expect and deserve a government they can count on to always have their best interests in mind. Our government should always operate in a transparent, safe and honest manner. These principles have and always will be the Assembly Majority’s commitment to all New Yorkers.

The Judiciary Committee was scheduled to meet on Monday, August 16th. Judiciary Committee Chair Assembly Member Charles Lavine's office has not returned a request for comment.

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68. "Impeachment would bar him from running/holding public office "
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and collecting his pension

Hopefully AG James still drops the hammer and criminal convictions have the same effect

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80. "Seeing and hearing Cuomo's smug"
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face in those incessant TV ads makes me wish the state legislature would have impeached him.

I have to assume Cuomo must have something over the leadership's heads as to why they held off on impeaching him.

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71. "Sen Andrea Stewart-Cousins would "give free breakfast to all Black peopl..."
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Senator Andrea Stewart-Cousins would "give free breakfast to all Black people."
(c) Cuomo

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/14/nyregion/andrew-cuomo-governor.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur

https://mobile.twitter.com/nytimes/status/1426562957136338951

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72. "12K added to NY Covid death toll"
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https://apnews.com/article/andrew-cuomo-health-coronavirus-pandemic-7312b49695e726eda8d59848e82271c5

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77. "12k of suspected covid deaths (vs confirmed by lab)"
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>https://apnews.com/article/andrew-cuomo-health-coronavirus-pandemic-7312b49695e726eda8d59848e82271c5

The count used by Cuomo in his news media briefings and on the s tate’s COVID-19 fatality tracker included only laboratory-confirmed COVID-19 deaths reported through a state system that collects data from hospitals, nursing homes and adult care facilities.

That meant the tally excluded people who died at home, in hospice, in prisons or at state-run homes for people with disabilities. It also excluded people who doctors believed died of COVID-19 but never got a positive test to confirm the diagnosis. Such tests were scarce in the initial months of the pandemic, when hundreds of New Yorkers were dying each day.

“There are presumed and confirmed deaths. People should know both,” Hochul said

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73. "Fuck Cuomo and that entire family..."
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..Told y'all he's a snake from a den of snakes.

Always has been, always will be.


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75. "damn man i kinda discovered Chris' show on cnn while being "
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stuck at home last year...i liked his approach and vibe...now im finding out he's a snake?? i feel let down smh.

  

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76. "He shit on Trump and is reasonably intelligent"
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So that makes him worlds better than most Republicans. He at least tried to do his job, and wasn’t a complete fucking moron.

But ultimately he’s always been pretty shady himself.

  

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78. "care to expound? like i said i kinda started checking him and Lemon"
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last yeah and i felt like they both seemed to actually give a shit and tried to counter the repub bullshit with logic and both seemed to wanna do the right thing. eventually i unplugged and stopped watching the news all together. but i dont know much about Chris' history other than really surface stuff.

>So that makes him worlds better than most Republicans. He
>at least tried to do his job, and wasn’t a complete fucking
>moron.
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81. "Like letting some 15 000 elderly folks die in those COVID-infected"
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nursery homes?

He
>at least tried to do his job, and wasn’t a complete fucking
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82. "^^Knows nothing - but is LOUD"
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Do you think that Cuomo is accused on killing 15,000 nursing home residents??

Is that literally what you think the allegation is???

Because it's actually:
1)He didn't count nursing home residents who died at the hospital (not in the nursing home.) 8,500 vs 12743.
So your saying that every COVID death was caused directly by him, plus 2,000+ more that aren't reported?

2)A directive stating that nursing homes could not deny admission to people with a COVID 19 positive test. That directive seems bad, but not a homicide of 15,000.

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84. "Cuomo lied egregiously..."
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..cut more than $400 mil from the healthcare budget in the face of a pandemic.

He then lied about anything that would reflect poorly on his profile during the pandemic (including the true numbers and risk to the most vulnerable population of NYC). He was infamously catapulted into the spotlight as a knight in shining bullshit because he was somehow seen as the man who saved the U.S. from Trump's reign of ignorance.

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86. "Your goalpost moving doesn't make me wrong"
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Is he responsible for killing 15,000 nursing home patients??????????

That's what I was responding too.

Now you're talking about "He lied and blah blah blah."

Did those lies KILL 15,000 nursing home patients???

The gasoline must have warped you brain.

You can dislike him and agree he didn't KILL 15,000 nursing home patients.

(Unless you're drinking that gasoline!!!)

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88. "agreed. The Cuomo family has been bad for the state of New York."
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Andrew especially, but the elder Cuomo introduced a nasty habit to the state...

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83. "Was thinking about how many of these Trump &quot;foes&quot; have fallen"
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or are at least worse off while Trump is still chugging along with no comeuppance.

Cuomo
Avanetti
Alec Baldwin
Nipsey
Jussie
shit. even Louis Ck called trump hitler

there are more i'm forgetting, and no their fates have little to do with Trump, but it's just kinda depressing lol

  

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85. "i'm sure you could do this with trump supporters too"
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alot of people can be called trump foes
there is alot of bad things that happen to people.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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87. "for sure"
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or more directly with people who aligned themselves with him and squandered their reputation

guess it just kinda reminded me of that Chris rock bit about trump

”A lot of people are like, “Well, Trump’s a bad person. He’ll get his.” You know, some people never get theirs. Some people just fail up. People are like, “What goes around, comes around.” No, it don’t. Sometimes, it’s just keeps goin’ around. Ain’t nothin’ gonna happen to Trump.

  

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