legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79586 posts
Wed Jul-21-21 10:14 AM
1. "finally have to go pick up these kids this weekend" In response to Reply # 0 Wed Jul-21-21 10:14 AM by legsdiamond
party is over.
Cant wait, I miss them.
My lil cousin asked for a logo. texted me 3 days later asking if it was done yet.
this guy.. smh.
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
2. "I feel like Ellen was the target of a smear campaign. " In response to Reply # 0
It was just weird how all of sudden Twitter decided it hated Ellen but there was very little of anyone going on record with real incidents of being terribly treated by her. If it turned out that her network was behind it to put themselves in better position for contract renegotiations, I wouldn't be surprised.
I feel like the Chris Pratt hate was unearned too.
********** "Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson
What if most of their victims were marginalized people. Whom the repercussions for tying a name to their complaints are never being able to work in the industry again.
------ “There is no fate that cannot be surmounted by scorn.” -Albert Camus
5. "I think the internet gives power to the powerless" In response to Reply # 4
And that our traditional power structures work to stifle that Think the people needing to pee in bottles at the Amazon factories and/or trucks Think the coal miner strike for the last seven months in Alabama Countless police videos
There’s zero reason to trust the people in power and often times the reality has proven to be worse than the rumors Louis CK The Trump Whitehouse Chris D’elia
------ “There is no fate that cannot be surmounted by scorn.” -Albert Camus
7. "100% the internet gives power to the powerless. " In response to Reply # 5
Which can be a great thing. But anybody can abuse power. AND the internet gives the ability for the powerful to masquerade as the powerless to manipulate people.
We've seen how the Russians used the net to manipulate people and there is no reason to believe corporations or people with bad intent are behind any rumor you hear on the net that doesn't have a source.
All the examples you named, someone came forth and stood by their statement. I will never 100% trust anonymously sourced info found on the webs no matter how much it is repeated.
********** "Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson
6. "I've been listening to the Sopranos podcast" In response to Reply # 2
and Steve Schirippa (Bobby Bacala) used to be entertainment director at the Riviera in vegas. he has tons of celebrity stories some positive, some not so much. He used to book Ellen back in the day and said it was all good. Then he ran into her at the Emmy's and went to say hi, like hey remember me, the guy from the Riviera, and he said she dismissed him like he was a piece of shit.
To your point, i don't think it was anything coordinated by the network, more that twitter will never pass up any excuse to feel justified in dogpiling on someone.
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79586 posts
Wed Jul-21-21 12:53 PM
11. "People really think comedians are nice people" In response to Reply # 6
but from what we often hear a lot of them have some serious darkness surrounding them IRL.
and by darkness I mean being shitty people in real life.
Just because she is a white woman and tells jokes doesn’t mean she can’t be a POS to her staff.
she is also friends with W. Basically, do not underestimate the whiteness of a white woman.
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
23. "lotta comedians are pretty open about being messed up" In response to Reply # 11
if not on stage, in interviews or podcasts
i think with Ellen it's more the contrast with her public image of being this warm, friendly, breezy person
i brought up the shchirripa story because i had just heard it. he didn't go into detail how she was in the past, but i assume she wasn't always terrible to him if he still wanted to say hello to her.
but i still feel buddy's point that this stuff is mostly hearsay. It wouldn't surprise me a bit if she's a trash person who treats people horribly, but it also wouldn't surprise me if some of it's overblown
9. "she's white rich and powerful. she's fine" In response to Reply # 2
"But rest assured, in my luxurious house built on the backs of people darker than me, I am sipping fine scotch and scoffing at how stupid you are." - bshelly
April 16: Ellen crew outraged by treatment during pandemic
The next month, Ellen crew members alleged that producers left them high and dry during the pandemic, and that they were told nothing "about the status of their working hours, pay, or inquiries about their mental and physical health from producers for over a month," according to a Variety report. The article also said crew members were later told they'd get major pay reductions, and their frustrations only increased when they heard the show hired a non-union company to help DeGeneres tape the show from her home.
Ultimately these folks are run through a company, and their complaints aren't REALLY with Ellen, she probably sees herself as a coworker to these people in a lot of regards ... that none of their paychecks say Ellen on them. But that's not how these folks see her. Every single choice she makes dramatically affects their lives.
So I can see a person that's a general asshole, but ALL the smiles in public ... that pre-pandemic, it was good for business for them to facilitate that image ... but then she's still getting kudos while they get shat on and not paid ... nope. It's the same ethos of why you ALWAYS make sure security's pay checks come on time. Because them folks are either your front line or your undercut, no in between.
And read the link, there was a whole internal investigation, C suite level firings and an internal apology ... that doesn't really happen with just smoke. Meaning it's probably way worse
------ “There is no fate that cannot be surmounted by scorn.” -Albert Camus
15. "Jyeah 2" In response to Reply # 0 Wed Jul-21-21 08:55 PM by Binlahab
The animus people gleefully express for again king among others online absolutely blows my mind.
And the shit is because people think he's white.
Which WHO THE FUCK CARES IF HE IS
Like...you white so you can't speak out abt police brutality.
Fk outta here
People say he steals from Black women.
Evidence? There is none. There are accusations. But if someone stole some money from you...can you not sue? Press charges? Never happens with dude. Why? He didn't do the shit
They say he got into with tamir rice mama. In short he didn't approach the family...except with a check for 60k. When people kept accusing him of not talking to the family...he revealed he had and that he had donated to them. Wasn't good enough
Call this man everything but a child of god...for what?
People that have never lifted...a finger. Never amplified not one constructive positive message about Black people think it's HILARIOUS to call dude out his name and shit on his work online.
And dare say...HE is fake!
Its...absurd. it's ridiculous.
The blind group think so prevalent online is...disgusting.
My current company has been my dream company since I was a teenager. That the pandemic exposed my boss as a monster was truly disappointing, but I thought I could work around and over her and keep trucking on.
It wasn't until that paperwork that I understood that she doesn't see herself anywhere close to how she is. And that she was going to block me from moving around and over her ... and not even out of spite, out of incompetence.
So when I hit the market again. Man. It felt good to remind myself through emails and the like, just exactly who I am and who I was. We had a conversation two days ago, about my notice to leave and she kept bringing up all of these things about my work and how we misaligned, not a bad conversation; but just free of the context that for over a year now we've been in a pandemic, in which I had two small kids in the house, and that I've had to teach myself the job. That part just completely doesn't factor into the conversation. That I've been on quarantine longer than I was an employee before quarantine.
All to say. When the offers came in,they were good, really good. And then one came in that was dumb good. We will see what the work entails, because you can know a job but not know what the work is ... but sheesh.
------ “There is no fate that cannot be surmounted by scorn.” -Albert Camus
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