2. "Gotta love Vanessa Carlton for licensing 1000 miles " In response to Reply # 0 Fri Jul-16-21 09:58 PM by shockvalue
For a song (“Who I Smoke”) that is taunting by name and mocking the deaths of a bunch of murdered children, then getting self-righteous about people who criticized her for it. SMH.
9. "Similar to the drill rapper / gang war that was supposedly " In response to Reply # 0
behind a ton of the shootings last summer in Brooklyn
Social media just sets the fire burning hotter because dudes shoot and then taunt, and the pressure is put on the target of that to respond.
The fact that there is real money behind the success of new songs that include direct reference to victims of violence kind of reinforces the negative trend.
26. "It’s surreal. Bibby was only 16 years old" In response to Reply # 22 Tue Jul-20-21 11:36 AM by shockvalue
Some video editor made that title in after effects, so it could pop up and emphasize the name of the real murdered black child whose death they’re celebrating— “Bibby”. (Aces friend and frequent musical collaborator Ksoo is facing trial for this murder).
And Vanessa Carlton licensed the sample for the song, and is presumably making royalties off the pain this is inflicting on those young men’s families, while her Twitter profile continues to read, yep, BLM.
41. "oh its definitely catchy and the visuals are entertaining..." In response to Reply # 22
but once you dig even slightly deeper you realize how sinister the spirit behind this (and alot of other songs by some of these young dudes) song is. there were virtually 100 shootings in chicago over 4th of july wknd...these lil dudes are possessed by demons.
>I was like, these young boys got a good sense of humor. Had >no idea that they were dancing on real graves. > > >********** >"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then >they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson > >"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"
34. "Remember Dre Day?" In response to Reply # 33 Tue Jul-20-21 12:30 PM by shockvalue
There wasn’t much that was relatable about that. The vicious stuff about Tim Dog and Eazy was appealing to my 12 year old self because of how real and vibrant it was, even tho I didn’t know about the subjects. It endeared me to the narrator because somehow that outre machismo felt liberating.
35. "I guess it's kinda similar, but kinda not" In response to Reply # 34
Those diss tracks were more like watching two people roasting each other. It's entertaining to see who can make the best diss even if you don't know the people involved.
This is on a whole different level. I'm just imagining a club playing this song with the DJ dropping the beat out and the crowd yelling some dead kid's name smh
57. "Except they weren’t rapping about murder victims" In response to Reply # 34
And they were actually rapping.
This is more like being an asshole over a beat than rapping. Their “flows” (if you can call them that) are terrible. It’s like they can’t hear the beat.
16. "Can we take a second to talk about how fucking lame of a diss" In response to Reply # 0 Tue Jul-20-21 09:29 AM by Hitokiri
"smoking on a ________ pack" is? That shit upsetting people is wild to me. If ya'll don't gtfoh with this lame ass, imaginary ass, metaphor posing as a supreme disrespect.
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40. "RE: Question is how'd we get from Pac/Biggie "never again" to this?" In response to Reply # 17
>After Pac/Biggie died, the hip-hop community was adamant that >something like that should and would never happen again. >
THAT hip hop community is over 40. They aren't these 12-18 yr olds currently out here getting it.
Social Media was a paradigm shift for the hood.
Anyone remember the digital divide? that shit is long gone. Smart Phones leap frogged that whole thang but w/o a roadmap.
We can't act like violence is worse than the 90s. But it is extremely more visible. While reading up on this a cop made a good point.
Social media and rap songs are the new graffiti...
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30. "Should some of these artists be deplatformed?" In response to Reply # 0 Tue Jul-20-21 12:17 PM by shockvalue
It’s a thorny issue as I’m loathe to ever censor music or free expression. It’s still fuck C. Delores Tucker…. But aren’t these guys encouraging/threatening violence in as direct a way as possible?
36. "Yeah, I am all for deplatforming. " In response to Reply # 30
Think about it, if there was a youtube video, that wasn't a song, bragging and mocking the murder of a 16 year old, it would b taken down in a heartbeat.
********** "Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson
42. "yall are old and panicking" In response to Reply # 30
gang members, drug dealers and everyday people have been killing each other over money, turf, women or (perceived) disrespect since forever
rapping about it isnt comfortable or "okay", but a percentage of black Americans are in survival mode facing a socioeconomic crisis, and that's a bigger issue than songs about it
hell, the crunk era was practically commanding niggas to harm each other
46. "I teach at an at-risk school in Jacksonville." In response to Reply # 0
My students have literally fought and been murdered outside of school over these dumb ass rap beefs, which are tied to neighborhood beefs as well. I lose about two to three students per year to murder. Another four to five to prison. Our school only has about 120 per year on average.
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"The world is before you and you need not take it or leave it as it was when you came in." - James Baldwin
- "you're old and panicking" applied equally across the board to a guy typing about it and a guy in the eye of the storm
- "you're old and panicking" just applied to people only typing about it and you're being as lame/bored as Buddy Gilapogos trying to get replies out of me
52. "I guess im mid 30s and panicked. Lmao" In response to Reply # 47
I cant lie im fairly certain this will be my last year teaching here. Ive done five years and my brain feels its done its part. Its tapped out from the stress of it.
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"The world is before you and you need not take it or leave it as it was when you came in." - James Baldwin
I get that when it comes to like general boasting and shit talking that goes in rap lyrics. Way to prejudicial.
But if someone is getting sentenced for murdering someone and there is a song where that same person is bragging about the murder or laughing at their death, I think that's something that should be taken into consideration.
Meaning if there is something specific that is stated in the lyrics that are relevant, it should be allowed.
********** "Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson
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