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MEAT
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"The supreme court is awful"


  

          

The short of today is that secret donors are ok and racial discrimination must harm first before being prevented.

If that harm means taking away the right to vote for electors and a representational judicial system ... *whoops*

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Unfortunately they're just doing what they were put there to do.
Jul 01st 2021
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Wait until the abortion rulings too
Jul 01st 2021
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As a nation, shouldn’t we be pushing for total electronic/online
Jul 01st 2021
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In this country, what has technology made better for the marginalized?
Jul 01st 2021
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RE: In this country, what has technology made better for the marginalize...
Jul 01st 2021
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      Has more evidence of misconduct improved anything?
Jul 01st 2021
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did you not see the shitshow that was the 2020 election?
Jul 01st 2021
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      So the solution is to just continue with an old election system,
Jul 01st 2021
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      Paper is always better than virtual.
Jul 01st 2021
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      Assistive voting/voting technology needs to be implemented.
Jul 01st 2021
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      if the replacement solution isn't a system that can pass compliance
Jul 02nd 2021
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      We pay our taxes online.
Jul 02nd 2021
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           Is there a group out there that tries to "overturn" another group's IRS ...
Jul 02nd 2021
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Waiting on that report/recommendation
Jul 01st 2021
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Brew
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1. "Unfortunately they're just doing what they were put there to do."
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2. "Wait until the abortion rulings too"
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>The short of today is that secret donors are ok and racial
>discrimination must harm first before being prevented.

And not only harm but do so significantly.


>If that harm means taking away the right to vote for electors
>and a representational judicial system ... *whoops*

They are doing it on PURPOSE - that's why they got the job.

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allStah
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Thu Jul-01-21 11:37 AM

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3. "As a nation, shouldn’t we be pushing for total electronic/online"
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Thu Jul-01-21 11:40 AM by allStah

          

voting anyway, especially for those who can’t make it to the polls?

Our monetary system has become electronic, our file sharing is electronic. People
focus more on emails and paperless billing than getting mail through
the USPS.

That would do away with the discrimination and subtle voter suppression
tactics.

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MEAT
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4. "In this country, what has technology made better for the marginalized?"
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9. "RE: In this country, what has technology made better for the marginalize..."
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Camera phones have made it more possible for cops to end up at least having to go to court for some of the stuff they do to civilians.

Besides that, anyone with internet has access to good and useful information that was once far more difficult to get a hold of. The fact that most folks use the innanet to look at booties and bullshit is besides the point.

But I'm down with the idea that more digital stuff can lead to much more bold and ridiculous cheating.

  

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MEAT
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10. "Has more evidence of misconduct improved anything?"
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Thu Jul-01-21 03:04 PM by MEAT

  

          

And I’m not a Luddite, I’m all for tech, my question is, in this country specifically what has more tech improved for the marginalized.

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5. "did you not see the shitshow that was the 2020 election? "
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They were already trying to say that some of the voting machines were hacked.

They would've tossed any electronic vote so quick, just like they were trying to do with mail in votes.

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allStah
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6. "So the solution is to just continue with an old election system,"
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which has been manipulated and duped on multiple occasions?


We live in a completely digital age now. As a population, almost everything
can be transacted from our bedroom while wearing drawls. You’re not thinking
or asking the right questions here.

I can’t recall the last time I physically stepped into a bank to withdraw money,
even ATMs are close to becoming dinosaurs.

Online voting technology should be at top of the agenda.

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Brew
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7. "Paper is always better than virtual."
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In terms of security and integrity.

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allStah
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8. "Assistive voting/voting technology needs to be implemented."
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Thu Jul-01-21 12:54 PM by allStah

          

There are many disabled people who can’t vote independently, because their voting requires someone to mark and/or take their ballot to the mailbox.

There are some cities that are looking to add assistive voting technology for
the next presidential election....

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nonaime
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12. "if the replacement solution isn't a system that can pass compliance"
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Fri Jul-02-21 04:51 AM by nonaime

          

It isn't a viable replacement solution.

>I can’t recall the last time I physically stepped into a
>bank to withdraw money,
>even ATMs are close to becoming dinosaurs.

That's a function of the types of transactions that can be performed electronically. Mostly we're talking about debiting/crediting accounts. You can wave a check in front of your camera and deposit it (which debits the issuer's account and that transaction pair can be verified). You ain't waving a stack of cash in front of your camera and have the same effect. Better go to a teller or ATM for that.


So, even in banking there are some problems that can be solved using online solutions, while other transactions can't (as long as there is paper money, you're going to need ATMs).


>Online voting technology should be at top of the agenda.
The bigger, or root cause, problem is that this country doesn't want fair elections for everyone. It never has. Until you solve that problem, there's no online technology that would pass scrutiny.

That's the compliance piece. And in a place that doesn't believe in fair elections, what do you think those compliance policies will be for for online voting? Imagine the audit and recount circus that happened this past election cycle, except all the energy is about smartphone apps.

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LeroyBumpkin
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13. "We pay our taxes online."
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Not sure why we couldn't also vote online.

I need to find that Tik Tok video where that kid was offerring
a rebuttal to everything this white politician was saying.

Yes, we want to vote online.
Yes, it should be easy.
Yes, people should be automatically registered to vote.

https://digife.com

  

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nonaime
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14. "Is there a group out there that tries to "overturn" another group's IRS ..."
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every year? No. Then stop comparing voting to filing taxes (or banking) online.

Voting has a different set of problems than filing taxes has. Simply saying we should be able to vote online just like we can file taxes doesn't address the problems unique to voting. Namely, that there are folks who have a vested interest in seeing votes thrown out.

Hell, they were trying to get votes cast on Dominion voting machines thrown out. Hard to do on systems that you can audit / show that they comply with regulations. And you don't think that won't be attempted if people can vote from their (mostly) unpatched computer or smartphone?

Yes, voting should be easy. But this country bitched over mail in votes. Mail in votes, dude. Trying to make voting easy ain't the problem.

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Doomdata21
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11. "Waiting on that report/recommendation"
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Let's hope that Judiciary commission comes back with news we can actually use and not a waste of time/energy. Expand the courts all across the board.

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