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"Crypto Scarfaces?"


  

          

Yal buying or shytting yaselves right now?




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started in 2019 when a bitcoin was worth 3,700
May 19th 2021
1
I startedwhenbitcoinwasblejg4eggjgjg9gg *AHEM*
May 20th 2021
26
      RE: I startedwhenbitcoinwasblejg4eggjgjg9gg *AHEM*
Nov 10th 2021
348
Sold my DOGE at .60
May 19th 2021
2
Same.
Oct 11th 2021
127
      RE: Same.
Nov 10th 2021
349
killing myself for knowing about all this shit early enough to be a mult...
May 20th 2021
3
Just do it breh
May 20th 2021
4
I spent around $60 for 4 million Shib
May 20th 2021
6
if I thought heavy about the first time I heard of bitcoin
May 20th 2021
5
We're still early when it comes to crypto
May 20th 2021
8
Seems like you'd be better off just making a longshot bet on a game
May 20th 2021
11
Smh same thing i heard about Doge back in 2016
May 20th 2021
14
umm.. you can do both
May 20th 2021
17
It is an either/or decision. You have $100 to put into one thing
May 20th 2021
18
      you want it to be one way..
May 20th 2021
20
      The options are invest or don't invest, not invest in this or that
May 20th 2021
21
           reminds me of people who say Doge vs Shib!!!
May 20th 2021
22
           You don't "have to" invest in either one. You could choose neither
May 20th 2021
25
                Do you often tell people what they would or wouldn't do?
May 20th 2021
30
                     k
May 20th 2021
32
           The point is most people would never consider betting on a long shot
May 20th 2021
24
                No, the point is you think know me
May 20th 2021
33
                k
May 20th 2021
34
                I enjoy roulette when I go to the casino
May 20th 2021
40
lol, do you know what an inner monologue is?
May 20th 2021
19
MAN. someone told me about bitcoin back in 2012-2013
May 20th 2021
27
If I would've carried through with getting an ASIC miner back in the day
May 21st 2021
52
I'm not worried
May 20th 2021
7
i'm buying
May 20th 2021
9
I want to diversify, what's best way to buy this Shibu?
May 20th 2021
10
crypto.com
May 20th 2021
12
      is the shibatoken.net site not legit?
May 20th 2021
13
           It is its just easier on crypto.com
May 20th 2021
15
                bet...thanks...downloading now. I also have bitpay...
May 20th 2021
16
Up $xxx,xxx in Doge
May 20th 2021
23
damn
May 20th 2021
42
That's awesome.
Oct 11th 2021
133
which exchange do you all use? coinbase? crypto.com?
May 20th 2021
28
coinbase
May 20th 2021
31
I use crypto.com for my shiba and cardano and robinhood for doge
May 20th 2021
37
$HOOD IPO'd a month after this tweet at $35 it is now at $10
Aug 07th 2022
476
Coinbase gave me five 'free' crypto currency types
Aug 13th 2021
74
Buying. Imagine panic selling during the March 2020 crash
May 20th 2021
29
So is this Shiba Inu coin the current "hot" coin?
May 20th 2021
35
Follow up question: Is Cardano a good buy at $1.80?
May 20th 2021
36
It is but I would wait for a dip
May 20th 2021
39
      i guess i'm asking if it's a quality coin. from what i'm reading
May 20th 2021
43
           it dipped too.. down approx. 20 cents
May 21st 2021
59
           it's now worth 35 cents
Nov 06th 2023
548
don't even touch it. it's a trash meme.
May 20th 2021
38
      lmao.. didn’t they say the same thing about Doge?
May 20th 2021
41
      He's got a halfway point though.
May 20th 2021
45
      nah man, I got a point point. stay away from hype coins.
May 20th 2021
47
      which ones are worth getting into right now?
May 20th 2021
48
      keep your eye on the ERC-1155 standard and what might come
May 20th 2021
51
      It's a half point in that it may not matter to he/me/etc
May 20th 2021
49
           i overstand.
May 20th 2021
50
      its still an “investment”
May 21st 2021
53
           I'm just getting at my psychological framing of it
May 21st 2021
54
           yeah.. its a bit of both
May 21st 2021
58
           I think palantir is a long play. like...a few years.
May 21st 2021
56
                yeah.. not to pat myself on the back but this is the first time
May 21st 2021
57
      and? Doge is a joke coin, this is a joke coin about a joke coin.
May 20th 2021
46
      wrong place
May 20th 2021
44
Fire Sale Friday!
May 21st 2021
55
thanks
May 21st 2021
60
Thank you for the thread and this post.
May 21st 2021
61
hope everyone treats crypto like vegas money
Jun 21st 2021
62
lolz
Jun 22nd 2021
63
I hope people are buying and not selling right now
Jun 22nd 2021
64
I sold. I'm buying back in tho when it finishes bottoming out
Jun 22nd 2021
65
I’ll buy when it dips below $20K….might not be too long the way
Jun 23rd 2021
66
Huge drops/dips are terrifying
Jun 23rd 2021
67
It's not terrifying if you're playing the game with disposable funds
Jun 23rd 2021
68
      Even if I am gambling with money I know I can afford to lose...
Jun 23rd 2021
70
      while this should be true.. it simply isn’t
Aug 13th 2021
77
lolz
Jun 23rd 2021
71
Added 3 million hoge
Jun 23rd 2021
72
fuck a dirty duck. I have several K tied up in binance...FML
Jun 23rd 2021
69
RE: fuck a dirty duck. I have several K tied up in binance...FML
Oct 11th 2021
119
Seeing some decent returns
Aug 13th 2021
73
Bought during the dips and am doing well right now.
Aug 13th 2021
75
I love seeing my money make money
Aug 13th 2021
76
My Cardano and Shiba printing 💰
Aug 16th 2021
78
Elon Musk constantly manipulating DOGE
Aug 16th 2021
79
      More skeptical about hedge funds pumping and dumping
Aug 16th 2021
80
Anyone else follow Black Bitcoin Billionaires on Clubhouse?
Aug 17th 2021
81
I started following after they were on the 85 South Show.
Aug 17th 2021
83
All my extra money been going to me tryna buy a house
Aug 17th 2021
82
buying a house was the best investment I have ever made
Aug 17th 2021
84
Huge dump
Sep 07th 2021
85
one of the bigger ones in the minute, but if you're in the green
Sep 07th 2021
86
Still up in Cardano in overall investments
Sep 07th 2021
87
And the rebound seems to be ongoing today
Sep 09th 2021
88
These fees suck
Sep 09th 2021
89
They do suck, and they also keep me away from trying to day trade
Sep 09th 2021
90
Shiba goin crazy
Sep 16th 2021
91
If you're going to roll the dice on a high reward/low risk on SHIB
Sep 16th 2021
92
WeBull says crypto trading is not available if you live in NY
Sep 16th 2021
93
I use Coinbase.
Sep 16th 2021
94
Man, I tried that too and it wouldn’t let me
Sep 16th 2021
95
      have you tried since?
Oct 05th 2021
110
           Finally figured out a workaround
Oct 10th 2021
115
You're not going to miss out
Sep 17th 2021
96
      Never seen anything like this
Sep 17th 2021
97
I got 4 mill Shib for $25 about 6 months ago
Sep 17th 2021
98
Another Fire Sale as China bans crypto for 464865th time smh
Sep 24th 2021
99
Saitama might be the one right now.
Sep 29th 2021
100
UP. For a few reasons.
Sep 30th 2021
101
      Scam
Oct 01st 2021
102
           why?
Oct 01st 2021
104
                here's why I'm not fucking with it
Oct 04th 2021
109
                     Those objections can apply to so many things.
Oct 28th 2021
281
Saw a fairly interesting reference to MiamiCoin on DrudgeReport earlier ...
Oct 01st 2021
103
👀
Oct 04th 2021
105
I don't see the appeal beyond speculation.
Oct 04th 2021
106
It's currency independent of the dollar essentially untaxed
Oct 04th 2021
107
Sounds like speculation.
Oct 04th 2021
108
      Value comes from momentum
Oct 06th 2021
111
      there's no description of this that doesn't make it sound
Oct 06th 2021
112
      That depends on the currency
Oct 08th 2021
113
unstoppable programmable monies.
Oct 11th 2021
117
And you can take it with you.
Oct 11th 2021
121
I could post a seed phrase here...
Oct 11th 2021
124
Brave Browser and BAT tokens
Oct 08th 2021
114
I use it. Used it since 2018/2019 or so.
Oct 11th 2021
120
In since 2017.
Oct 11th 2021
116
RE: In since 2017.
Oct 11th 2021
122
BTC, ETH, AVAX, FTM, MATIC, RVN...
Oct 11th 2021
123
      RE: BTC, ETH, AVAX, FTM, MATIC, RVN...
Oct 11th 2021
125
           Never to late.
Oct 11th 2021
126
                RE: Never to late.
Oct 11th 2021
128
                     3)UNI/Uniswap and 4)USDC.
Oct 11th 2021
131
You a Crypto OG
Oct 12th 2021
141
Hardly.
Oct 12th 2021
145
Are these three
Oct 12th 2021
142
      RE: Are these three
Oct 12th 2021
144
BSC BNB is centralized trash.
Oct 11th 2021
118
Listen to the Bitcoin Podcast.
Oct 11th 2021
129
Hbar is my hail mary
Oct 11th 2021
130
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...
Oct 11th 2021
134
SHIB is... interesting.
Oct 11th 2021
132
Copped 1M myself for around $10
Oct 11th 2021
135
      Yup I got some because OTHER people
Oct 12th 2021
136
           A penny is a pipe dream until they have a better burn mechanism
Oct 12th 2021
138
                I'm confused at how I get some Saitama.
Oct 12th 2021
139
                1. buy on Coinbase 2. Install Coinbase wallet to your phone
Oct 12th 2021
140
                     RE: 1. buy on Coinbase 2. Install Coinbase wallet to your phone
Oct 18th 2021
173
                     No doubt! That shit drove me crazy for a good half hour
Oct 19th 2021
176
                     You weren't lying about the gas fees
Oct 20th 2021
178
                RE: A penny is a pipe dream until they have a better burn mechanism
Oct 12th 2021
143
nice sale this morning
Oct 12th 2021
137
Staked more in staking platforms
Oct 12th 2021
146
Do all the things. Stake and Lend. Mine if you got GPUs.
Oct 12th 2021
147
Delete if this isn’t ok.
Oct 13th 2021
149
AVAX - Avalanche. It's on Coinbase.
Oct 12th 2021
148
Hbar is in the same lane...
Oct 13th 2021
150
Free FOX tokens... I think you can still claim them.
Oct 13th 2021
151
I'm falling back with 3 billion+ Saitama
Oct 13th 2021
152
That's it? I figured you would have at least hundred billion by now
Oct 13th 2021
153
Its not worth the headache
Oct 13th 2021
158
What's Saitama?
Oct 13th 2021
154
      It's an erc 20 token
Oct 13th 2021
157
           Looks like they are planning a Uniswap clone.
Oct 14th 2021
162
Find unclaimed airdrops - AKA FREE TOKENS
Oct 13th 2021
155
RE: Find unclaimed airdrops - AKA FREE TOKENS
Oct 13th 2021
156
      Yes.
Oct 14th 2021
160
C'mon Cardano
Oct 14th 2021
159
If they actually do smart contracts. Yeah.
Oct 14th 2021
161
      It's not much, but I'm already winning.
Oct 14th 2021
164
           Same.
Oct 14th 2021
165
Remember: this is gambling. Wall Street too.
Oct 14th 2021
163
so many lose sight of this.
Oct 22nd 2021
188
BTC.
Oct 14th 2021
166
RE: BTC.
Oct 15th 2021
167
      Beautimus maxiumus.
Oct 15th 2021
168
Look at OXT.
Oct 17th 2021
169
RE: Look at OXT.
Oct 17th 2021
170
      I don't ahve anything like that.
Oct 17th 2021
171
What would you buy Bitcoin at?
Oct 18th 2021
172
CashApp is the easiest way.
Oct 18th 2021
174
i like coinbase pro
Oct 18th 2021
175
RE: What would you buy Bitcoin at?
Oct 19th 2021
177
I'm waiting for 60k
Oct 21st 2021
185
Today was a good day.
Oct 21st 2021
179
RE: Today was a good day.
Oct 21st 2021
181
      HODL+
Oct 21st 2021
183
           RE: HODL+
Oct 21st 2021
186
           RE: HODL+
Oct 21st 2021
187
           off topic
Oct 24th 2021
218
                bought my wife a MacBook Air instead.
Oct 30th 2021
294
Would you trade upwards of 700K+ doge for Shib?
Oct 21st 2021
180
RE: Would you trade upwards of 700K+ doge for Shib?
Oct 21st 2021
182
No. where's ShibaSwap?
Oct 21st 2021
184
Saitama. I'm a little pissed I didn't move my Shib investment
Oct 22nd 2021
189
Lol bruh just hold both
Oct 23rd 2021
194
      Oh lord. What a weird reply. You're makimg a lot of assumptions.
Oct 24th 2021
198
           Wouldn't you be buying back in at a higher price?
Oct 24th 2021
200
                Yes, you're reading it wrong.
Oct 24th 2021
204
                     You said you sold all your saitama
Oct 24th 2021
205
                          How do you not understand this basic concept?
Oct 24th 2021
206
                               I completely understand the concept
Oct 24th 2021
216
                                    I sold at 57. bought it back at 45. I gained more Saitama in the process...
Oct 24th 2021
226
                                         Just asking a question about your strategy bruh
Oct 25th 2021
228
                                              Nah. Reading your posts, they don't come across that way.
Oct 25th 2021
230
                                                   U got it bruh
Oct 25th 2021
257
not hating on anyone who invested
Oct 23rd 2021
190
You really can't just lump all crypto into the same bucket
Oct 23rd 2021
191
strong cosign.
Oct 23rd 2021
193
this has never been said about anything that isn't a ponzi scheme
Oct 24th 2021
195
So basic math is a ponzi scheme?
Oct 24th 2021
199
      RE: So basic math is a ponzi scheme?
Oct 24th 2021
202
      none of this is dictated by math
Oct 24th 2021
210
and bringing up el salvador is reallllll funny
Oct 24th 2021
196
RE: You really can't just lump all crypto into the same bucket
Oct 24th 2021
201
it's still early and Wall Street is in it.
Oct 23rd 2021
192
but I thought bitcoin was supposed to take down wall street
Oct 24th 2021
197
Good bad ugly - the Street is paying attention.
Oct 24th 2021
211
      I do not give investment advice
Oct 24th 2021
222
RE: it's still early and Wall Street is in it.
Oct 24th 2021
203
      It touches US citizens so it needs to be in line with US law.
Oct 24th 2021
212
           RE: It touches US citizens so it needs to be in line with US law.
Oct 24th 2021
214
                RE: It touches US citizens so it needs to be in line with US law.
Oct 24th 2021
225
                     RE: It touches US citizens so it needs to be in line with US law.
Oct 25th 2021
229
                          lmao @ saying you are happy for him. You sound jealous fam
Oct 25th 2021
252
                               i am happy for him
Oct 25th 2021
255
there's also a thing called
Oct 24th 2021
207
      here:
Oct 24th 2021
208
      ...
Oct 24th 2021
209
           RE: ...
Oct 24th 2021
213
           aside from everything else...um. bitcoin isn't decentralized
Oct 26th 2021
261
                this, valid point about buttcoin
Oct 28th 2021
276
Regarding the Ponzi comparision...
Oct 24th 2021
215
Bruh don't let them turn this into that kinda post
Oct 24th 2021
217
LMAO
Oct 24th 2021
220
      they both need to be ignored completely IMO
Oct 24th 2021
227
the only value bit coin has created is the value of the currency
Oct 24th 2021
223
      sounds like the stock market.. lol
Oct 25th 2021
232
      no, that's not how stocks work
Oct 25th 2021
237
      RE: no, that's not how stocks work
Oct 25th 2021
247
      this isn't at all how the stock market works
Oct 25th 2021
244
      This is the point I was attempting to make
Oct 25th 2021
233
           like the stock market
Oct 25th 2021
236
           similar, but the comparison isn't quite right.
Oct 25th 2021
241
                meh.. Facebook and such are examples of users being the product
Oct 25th 2021
242
                     This is an almost textbook description of speculation.
Oct 25th 2021
243
                          thats what the market is.. its legalized betting.
Oct 25th 2021
248
                               there is a difference between that and a purely speculative market.
Oct 25th 2021
253
           because it is risky
Oct 25th 2021
238
*Cuban Bs any ponzi talk* Mononoke inu...
Oct 24th 2021
219
BNB BSC is wild AF.
Oct 24th 2021
221
....
Oct 24th 2021
224
      Incorrect
Oct 25th 2021
231
      solutions for problems that do not exist
Oct 25th 2021
240
      Lmao @ I dont need it so no one else will.
Oct 25th 2021
251
      efficient payment gateways already exist
Oct 25th 2021
256
           ...
Oct 25th 2021
259
      The point is to cut out the bank
Oct 26th 2021
263
           folk crack me up with the BUT MUH BANK DOES THAT
Oct 27th 2021
267
           yes. the feds be watching. fdic insured
Oct 28th 2021
272
                Coinbase makes you whole
Oct 28th 2021
275
           there's no tech solution for having your account hacked
Oct 28th 2021
273
                it's pretty amazing that people want to take on the responsibility
Nov 09th 2021
338
      absolutely none of those things are useful
Oct 25th 2021
246
      Like the stockmarket
Oct 25th 2021
235
           no, not like the stock market at all, please see response #237
Oct 25th 2021
239
           I understand that you don't understand stocks
Oct 25th 2021
245
                lmao.. that’s why I’m not a day trader, lol
Oct 25th 2021
249
                     the ability to lose money is not what makes these what they are
Oct 25th 2021
250
I need Shib to hit 10 cents in 10 years.. lol
Oct 25th 2021
234
Good luck with that.
Oct 25th 2021
254
Not happening for at least six years
Oct 25th 2021
258
10 years is longer than 6 years.. lol
Oct 26th 2021
262
      or longer... there's a quadrillions of SHIB
Oct 26th 2021
264
      my kids, kids, kids.. gonna be rich!!
Oct 26th 2021
265
      You spoke too soon either way
Oct 27th 2021
268
           I bought in early.. but not that much
Oct 28th 2021
278
$SHIB is still up!
Aug 07th 2022
479
Look at AVAX if inclined to do so.
Oct 25th 2021
260
If Cryptocurrency Was Honest: Introducing Rog Coin
Oct 27th 2021
266
I'm sick, but learning valuable lessons.
Oct 27th 2021
269
Shib is $600 per 7 million
Oct 28th 2021
270
I'm just looking at overall market cap with SHIB
Oct 28th 2021
274
not sure what you are working with but why not have both?
Oct 28th 2021
279
      It's a nice chunk of change vs life changing money
Oct 28th 2021
280
      Also, Saitama has better burn mechanisms and reflections
Oct 28th 2021
282
I'm doing well, while not really understanding what's being said here.
Oct 28th 2021
271
Keep learning.
Oct 30th 2021
296
WHEW. Finally managed to escape Binance
Oct 28th 2021
277
Inbox
Oct 28th 2021
286
      Drop me one too, por favor
Oct 29th 2021
287
           Check your inbox, player.
Oct 30th 2021
293
Coinbase #1 app in app store
Oct 28th 2021
283
LOL
Oct 28th 2021
284
bro, don't worry about what I'm saying, just get rich
Oct 29th 2021
288
FOMO
Oct 30th 2021
295
"somethings happening" $COIN price
Aug 07th 2022
474
      $53.28. Brian Armstrong knew it would be like this
Jun 10th 2023
532
ETH $4,387.20 - bounced off $4400 ATH.
Oct 28th 2021
285
Aren’t BTC and Eth no brainers to keep going up?
Oct 30th 2021
289
      Until it isn’t.
Oct 30th 2021
290
      No such thing as "safe bets" - dead that.
Oct 30th 2021
292
           I can't find anything here that I disagree with
Oct 31st 2021
299
Who got some hoge?
Oct 30th 2021
291
Jaspreet is flowing from the Survival Scrolls...
Oct 30th 2021
297
Got dropped $145 for holding AAVE/stAAVE
Oct 30th 2021
298
Question for everyone: What % of your portfolio is crypto?
Nov 01st 2021
300
like 5%
Nov 01st 2021
301
65%
Nov 02nd 2021
302
whoa!!
Nov 02nd 2021
303
how do you drive your lambo with balls so big?
Nov 02nd 2021
307
<1%
Nov 02nd 2021
304
3%
Nov 02nd 2021
305
33.3% objectively
Nov 02nd 2021
306
I have no idea.
Nov 02nd 2021
308
Time in the market is always better than timing the market
Nov 02nd 2021
309
      Yup.
Nov 02nd 2021
311
15%
Nov 02nd 2021
310
100%
Nov 11th 2021
357
I feel sick. I think I may have lost all my Saitama today.
Nov 02nd 2021
312
lmao, I just worked myself into a panic. thankfully.
Nov 03rd 2021
313
my best crypto investiment was getting a ledger 2-3 years ago
Nov 03rd 2021
314
      No need to stake Saitama.
Nov 03rd 2021
316
Stick to metamask and use uniswap
Nov 03rd 2021
315
I'm good on that. Gas fees are more headache inducing
Nov 03rd 2021
317
be your own bank, few understand.
Nov 03rd 2021
318
I genuinely don't give a fuck what you have to say about anything
Nov 03rd 2021
319
      https://tinyurl.com/uvmzn3pf
Nov 03rd 2021
320
           Why the fuck would I click some bullshit tinyurl link
Nov 03rd 2021
323
I always run a test sum before moving large amounts. fuck the gas price....
Nov 03rd 2021
321
      Yup. That was something that was killing me yesterday
Nov 03rd 2021
322
going to say this again for the people in the back
Nov 03rd 2021
324
RE: going to say this again for the people in the back
Nov 04th 2021
327
      Exactly.
Nov 04th 2021
328
           Finally available on Coinbase for NY.
Nov 12th 2021
375
Rivian IPO going to be listed next week (non crypto) #ponzigang
Nov 04th 2021
325
seems legit
Nov 04th 2021
326
Being listed today
Nov 10th 2021
343
Stack metals
Nov 04th 2021
329
bought em all.
Nov 05th 2021
330
AVAX ATH.
Nov 07th 2021
331
BTC pumping.
Nov 07th 2021
332
Potential Airdrops.... "POTENTIAL"....
Nov 09th 2021
333
let's talk taxes.
Nov 09th 2021
334
Pay them.
Nov 09th 2021
335
Charitable Remainder Trust seems like a better alternative
Nov 09th 2021
339
OR
Nov 09th 2021
336
      Thanks. definitely something to look into when the time comes
Nov 09th 2021
337
      can you inbox that info to me aswell?
Nov 09th 2021
340
      RE: OR
Nov 09th 2021
341
      can I get that info too?
Nov 10th 2021
347
      Can I get that too?
Nov 11th 2021
356
ENS airdrop. OMFG. Claim site
Nov 09th 2021
342
none of the credit cards I have work for crypto
Nov 10th 2021
344
Counts as a cash advance for the cards that LET you use them
Nov 10th 2021
345
      got it.
Nov 10th 2021
352
Sold all my Loopring at $.49 a few weeks ago to buy more SHIB......
Nov 10th 2021
346
SAME!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nov 10th 2021
351
Opened at 106 smh
Nov 10th 2021
350
yeah what a letdown. was boring af.
Nov 10th 2021
355
Sooo Evergrande (Chinese Real estate developer) defaulted....
Nov 10th 2021
353
LOL
Nov 10th 2021
354
it appears they did not but it's been hard to fucking tell all day
Nov 11th 2021
359
I'm deep on Layer 1 chains right now. Peace to everyone on Avax and Bsc
Nov 11th 2021
358
Layer 2 scaling is where the money resides.
Nov 11th 2021
360
      I'd rather invest in cross chain projects with their own ecosystems.
Nov 12th 2021
367
      If ETH2 happens.
Nov 12th 2021
369
      that goalpost has been moving for so long
Nov 12th 2021
372
      To who? Im focused on where new retail is onboarding to.
Nov 12th 2021
374
      when do you think eth 2.0 will be deployed
Nov 12th 2021
371
           who knows. i stopped caring about eth as a network a while ago.
Nov 12th 2021
373
                BTC is Netscape. ETH is IE.
Nov 12th 2021
376
                     maybe they'll fix the efficiency at some point
Nov 26th 2021
406
                     I WAS WRONG ABOUT ETHEREUM
Aug 08th 2022
485
      you posted this the same day someone put hijacker code on badger
Dec 03rd 2021
419
Spending bsc in .02 increments on bsc coins
Nov 11th 2021
361
LOL
Nov 11th 2021
362
MVI - Metaverse Index
Nov 11th 2021
363
just a PSA: Saitama ate a zero today.
Nov 11th 2021
364
I have 0 of that token.
Nov 11th 2021
365
Ok.
Nov 11th 2021
366
      This space is noisy AF.
Nov 12th 2021
368
           again, ok. Nobody is trying to push Saitama on you.
Nov 12th 2021
370
what are your thoughts and feelings
Nov 18th 2021
388
      I like the token and plan.
Nov 18th 2021
393
           thanks for the feedback
Nov 18th 2021
396
BTC is doing ok.
Nov 13th 2021
377
$100 AVAX.
Nov 13th 2021
378
Almost bought nbc
Nov 15th 2021
379
RE: Almost bought nbc
Nov 15th 2021
380
A 24 glitch happened that had me ready
Nov 15th 2021
383
      RE: A 24 glitch happened that had me ready
Nov 15th 2021
384
dafuq
Nov 15th 2021
381
LMAO
Nov 15th 2021
382
FOX is pumping
Nov 15th 2021
385
Still pumping.
Nov 16th 2021
386
AVAX New ATH.
Nov 17th 2021
387
Kadena
Nov 18th 2021
389
its cheap too
Nov 18th 2021
392
buy CRO.
Nov 18th 2021
390
I have CRO and use the app
Nov 18th 2021
391
companies that sponsor stadiums and F1 teams are always
Nov 18th 2021
394
Enron!
Nov 18th 2021
395
      it's a good hustle, you sign a 20 year contract
Nov 21st 2021
401
the price of $CRO peaked five days after this post at 93 cents
Aug 07th 2022
478
Accumulated a lot during yesterday's dip
Nov 19th 2021
397
Jaspreet continues to flow from the Survival Scrolls...
Nov 21st 2021
398
These metaverse plays might be rug pulls
Nov 21st 2021
399
MANA is serious
Nov 21st 2021
400
      MANA and SAND gon pop
Nov 22nd 2021
402
GALA
Nov 24th 2021
403
RE: GALA
Nov 24th 2021
404
Everything is on sale.
Nov 26th 2021
405
*Takes flyers on cheap coins*
Nov 27th 2021
407
LMAO wtf is smooth love potion?
Nov 28th 2021
408
      RE: smooth love potion?
Nov 28th 2021
409
           axie infinity is a "game" that you pay $1500 to "play"
Nov 28th 2021
410
           Gas is too damn high to me playing on Ethereum
Nov 29th 2021
411
                I own six digit doge and work
Nov 30th 2021
414
                     No BSC
Nov 30th 2021
415
Luna hit new all time highs while the market was red. n/m
Nov 30th 2021
412
wait, did you buy Luna? it's now entirely worthless
Aug 07th 2022
477
The P of my PNL for this month is ticking up.
Nov 30th 2021
413
I didn't expect to see all the big names drop 10+% at once
Dec 04th 2021
420
      I did.
Dec 04th 2021
421
           AND YET YOU DODGE MY BADGERDAO QUESTIONS
Dec 04th 2021
422
                I will not confirm
Dec 04th 2021
423
                     now they beggin for the coins back
Dec 05th 2021
424
                          All they can do is ask
Dec 05th 2021
426
Polygon/MATIC
Dec 01st 2021
416
Hard to believe Cardano is sub $2.00.
Dec 03rd 2021
417
Where's the ADA DEX/Defi?
Dec 03rd 2021
418
did you hodl? It's now 53 cents
Aug 07th 2022
475
Luna up 60% since my last post. :/
Dec 05th 2021
425
Prices keep on getting lower and lower
Dec 10th 2021
427
The markets follow each other
Dec 10th 2021
429
it's because you should put more money in
Dec 11th 2021
430
...
Dec 10th 2021
428
The shopping spree continues
Dec 11th 2021
431
Anyone dabble in mining?
Dec 11th 2021
432
Self-proclaimed 'Crocodile of Wall Street' snagged in big Bitcoin bust:
Feb 09th 2022
433
This one of the people y'all let make off with y'all coins
Feb 09th 2022
434
      LMAOOOOOOOOO
Feb 10th 2022
435
      I lasted until sammich
Feb 10th 2022
436
So um... where we at with this?
Mar 16th 2022
437
Markets are down because of Putin
Mar 17th 2022
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Educational Resources?
Mar 21st 2022
439
Sure, why not help out.
Mar 21st 2022
440
Buy, buy, buy, and buy some more.
Apr 27th 2022
441
Sam Bankman-Fried (FTX) on Yield Farming Ponzis
Apr 27th 2022
442
he'd know!
Nov 12th 2022
501
Fidelity 401ks will offer Bitcoin investment
Apr 27th 2022
443
It took waaaay too long nm
Apr 27th 2022
444
the ceo of the company pushing for that isn't ceo anymore
Sep 07th 2022
492
btc abt to drop below 30k
May 09th 2022
445
BUY THE DIP
May 09th 2022
446
24 hour haul...
May 10th 2022
447
y'all good?
May 11th 2022
448
Wow, -92% overnight? Some sites report -98%
May 11th 2022
449
reading about people claiming they bought the dip at 40 or 15
May 12th 2022
455
      Terra Luna 2.0 plummets 70+% just hours after its launch
May 29th 2022
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i dont have any serious money in them
May 11th 2022
450
shits crazy man. i pulled profits early enough.
May 12th 2022
451
Absolutely not
May 12th 2022
452
Saitama was a slow moving train wreck
May 12th 2022
454
shit, my 401K and stocks are down more than my crypto
May 12th 2022
453
Do Kwon
May 12th 2022
456
*smh* I've always thought crypto was worthless
May 12th 2022
457
to be fair the tech is worthless too
May 13th 2022
458
That's interesting. I think that's the way I always looked at it.
May 13th 2022
459
Folks should know by now every financial fad is....
May 16th 2022
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this a redundant point. the stock market is worthless/overvalued
May 16th 2022
461
      I tried fake day trading after a nice win with 1 stock
May 18th 2022
463
           Don't feel too bad
May 29th 2022
465
Still in &amp; buying more
May 16th 2022
462
It's an investment
May 30th 2022
466
      buy the dip!
Aug 04th 2022
473
Gucci Mane, Lupe Fiasco, Lewis Capaldi and others are issuing NFT ticket...
May 30th 2022
467
if you believe this you're an idiot
May 31st 2022
468
"it can be more than jpgs"
May 31st 2022
469
Not a great weekend for the market...
Jun 13th 2022
470
Celsius paused withdrawals. NFTI index -97.66% from ATH.
Jun 15th 2022
471
~8,000 Solana-based wallets attacked/drained
Aug 03rd 2022
472
This thread is hella entertaining.
Aug 08th 2022
480
if the news of a coin has spread wide enough to hit okp
Aug 08th 2022
483
crypto ponzi schemers getting their money heisted anonymously.
Aug 08th 2022
481
treasury sanctions leading crypto mixer for money laundering for hackers...
Aug 08th 2022
482
just insane - totally - insane - scam written all over from top to botto...
Aug 08th 2022
484
kira how you doing bro?
Aug 09th 2022
486
Diversify your crypto nigga - Wu Financial
Aug 10th 2022
488
largest american crypto exchange revenue fell *1/3* in q2.
Aug 10th 2022
487
95% of Coinbase's fees were collected from retail traders
Aug 10th 2022
489
coinbase is getting rekt
Jun 09th 2023
531
I think my favorite thing about coinbase, is that they have more data
Aug 14th 2022
490
I'M UP
Aug 15th 2022
491
lmao.. good luck.
Sep 07th 2022
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FTXtinguished
Nov 09th 2022
494
Crypto getting treated like cassette tapes and shit
Nov 09th 2022
495
Binance not acquiring FTX
Nov 09th 2022
496
“That’s crazy.” - Mal
Nov 09th 2022
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these mfs invented money and gave it to themselves
Nov 12th 2022
502
      can't you say that about "regular" money?
Nov 28th 2022
510
           this is my point. they created a "new" system that didn't improve on the...
Nov 29th 2022
511
           Yes, but money was invented LONG BEFORE
Nov 29th 2022
512
                the gold standard hasn't existed for about 50 years
Dec 02nd 2022
513
Up 6 figures until the CPI report...
Nov 10th 2022
498
https://youtu.be/A8q8PXoJwVk
Nov 11th 2022
500
should I buy a bitcoin?
Nov 11th 2022
499
I don't think you should invest in things you don't understand
Nov 12th 2022
503
Do you like gambling large sums of money?
Nov 19th 2022
507
folks soon to start blaming the US Gov't if more FAILURES occur
Nov 18th 2022
504
Some will but lack of govt regulation also helped
Nov 19th 2022
506
      I wouldn't speak so soon about contamination not spreading
Nov 28th 2022
509
NY Times: Gov't regulation stopping wild promises of profit is the end
Nov 19th 2022
505
Crypto Lender BlockFi Files for Bankruptcy - ny times
Nov 28th 2022
508
so this dude stole Billions and gets to chill in the Bahamas?
Dec 02nd 2022
514
RE: so this dude stole Billions and gets to chill in the Bahamas?
Dec 13th 2022
515
white collar criminals usually aren't arrested right away
Dec 14th 2022
517
I'm done, this shit is done.
Dec 13th 2022
516
the fact you can’t just take your money out half the time
Dec 14th 2022
519
Never been in on crypto but this SBF shit is so fascinating
Dec 14th 2022
518
Crypto is like tulips, Beanie Babies, art, trading cards
Dec 14th 2022
521
... At a bit of crossroads. Replies 519 is fud
Dec 14th 2022
520
SEC Charges Coinbase After Going After Binance - rollingstone
Jun 07th 2023
522
Binance Exec Said Crypto Giant Was Unlicensed Securities Exchange
Jun 07th 2023
523
Posts 522 and 523 fall squarely on Biden.
Jun 07th 2023
524
lol you still pumping this ponzi scheme?
Jun 08th 2023
525
      Crypto is not a Ponzi scheme nor a scam
Jun 08th 2023
526
           Of course it's a scam and/or ponzi of sorts
Jun 08th 2023
527
                they had niggas taking investment advice from logan paul and lil yachty.
Jun 09th 2023
529
crypto.com shut down their institutional business in the u.s.
Jun 09th 2023
528
.
Jun 09th 2023
530
The Feds Are Coming for Crypto. Can It Survive? - RS swipe
Jun 10th 2023
533
People who love Richard Heart are def in a cult lol
Jun 13th 2023
534
I recently read an article on the amount of deaths in crypto
Jun 13th 2023
535
Wall Street launches crypto exchange, loads apply for Bitcoin ETFs
Jun 29th 2023
536
What a fuucking scam
Jun 29th 2023
537
Fidelity is re-filing. Fid, Ark, Van Eck, WisdomTree, Grayscale et al
Jun 29th 2023
538
Looking like it'll be denied again
Jun 30th 2023
540
crypto is important because it enables the unbanked!
Jun 30th 2023
539
y'all good?
Nov 03rd 2023
541
This is one helluva timeline in Crypto finances
Nov 04th 2023
542
SBF convicted 1 year to the day after the coindesk article dropped
Nov 04th 2023
543
Jury spent more time ordering dinner than deliberating
Nov 04th 2023
545
      turns out that when the feds make a case on you
Nov 05th 2023
546
Very good
Nov 04th 2023
544
Still up high five figures
Nov 06th 2023
547
Bitcoin Rodney - friend of Rick Ross, Jamie Foxx - under arrest
Jan 09th 2024
549
Bitcoin Rodney sounds like a name you can believe in
Jan 09th 2024
550
      Yes
Jan 09th 2024
551
BTC ETF seems like it's happening.
Jan 11th 2024
552
you dumbass boomers still fading crypto?
Feb 29th 2024
553
Nigeria
Mar 14th 2024
554
Cashed out most of my BTC at 70k.
Mar 15th 2024
555
Glad to see someone winning at this shit.
Mar 18th 2024
557
solid thousandaire
Mar 18th 2024
558
yea I got out before the collapse thank God
Mar 19th 2024
560
AVAX is pumping to $100.
Mar 18th 2024
556
Stacker.News - Lightning Network "Hacker News" clone
Mar 18th 2024
559

tomjohn29
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1. "started in 2019 when a bitcoin was worth 3,700"
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im gucci

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Navem nu, cuando sol
Tutu nu, vondo nos nu
Vita em, no continous non
Nos nu ekta nos sepe ta, amen

When the sun shades the ship
We sweat and life is not safe
To swim or to touch not
When we unite we hedge amen

  

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double negative
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26. " I startedwhenbitcoinwasblejg4eggjgjg9gg *AHEM* "
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under 400.

did i go crazy with buying? hell the fuck no, but I did submit paperwork to change my name to Burger King because I WAS FLIPPING left and right.

I've been in the game since 2016. I lost my patience with trying to ride waves, so I set my portfolio about three years ago and just stepped all the way back. I've seen all of this shit before so I'm not pressed. Either I get rich or I make a decently sized sum of capital to do things with. I choose the more likely scenario and leave YOLO plays to everyone else.


I stopped DCA back in 2018.

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348. "RE: I startedwhenbitcoinwasblejg4eggjgjg9gg *AHEM* "
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sorta where i am with most of my portfolio. i dont have it in me to do the day trading although it seems like that's where some of the really big gains are to be had.

i'm investing in crypto that i think is gonna be around in 5+years

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2. "Sold my DOGE at .60"
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I feel like a genius.

I mean, really though - you can't ever REALLY time it right. Figure whatever people are happy with they should sell. But I also like casinos more than the stock market so don't listen to me.

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127. "Same."
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When people aped in I dumped 90% of my doge.

Sold all my XRP at $3.

That's still the ATH.

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349. "RE: Same."
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XRP is one of my long-term holds. just fingers crossed the SEC shit blows over & in 5+ years the'y're filling in for ACH around the world

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3. "killing myself for knowing about all this shit early enough to be a mult..."
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Wlnf of a very minimal investment that was undoubtedly squandered on fast food or movie tickets or some other bullshit.

Several times over.

So that makes me thin...I should take 2-300 bucks over this next week or two and sprinkle it on Shib and Safemoon in hopes one of them reaches a penny and and I can get 50-75K payday.

$100 in SHIB right today gets you a mil if it ever reaches a dime. Minus taxes and fees, that's still a paid off home in a nice area in most of the country.

If it dies out tomorrow, I'm out a $100.

And that's a horrible mentality for investing, so I'll just frame it as gambling and KIM.

Or I'll do nothing and want to hang myself in 5 years when SHIB is $3.62 or some shit, knowing I could have bought ten million of these fucking things for $100 to take a shot at generational wealth.

Then I think, $100 is nothing to lose right now, so why the fuck not?

Then I think... Im nowhere close to where I should be financially to be thinking $100 is nothing to lose, even if that's mote or less true.

Then i think of all the dumb shit i can buy in a month that is more or less a waste of money. I spent $23 taking my son to Wetzels tonight, and i'm thinking about how if the $11.50 of that total that i spent on my food could have bought a million shibs or tnearly twice as many safemoons.

Basically, it makes me think a wide spectrum of thoughts.

  

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4. "Just do it breh"
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Feel the same way about Doge

I 1st heard of it back in 2016

I could easily be on half a mill right now if I bought in a couple hunnid

I probably spent about 1000 on sneakers that year smh

But yea

Its pretty much gambling but the amount of bullshyt I spend $100 bucks or more on

I got about 6 million in shib tokens

Think i spent 120 on it

Fuggit

If it gets to even a Nickle I'm good

If it don't Orwell

My 1st venture into crypto was Cardano a couple months ago and I kick myself for not buying more when i got in at 60 cent

I mean I'm still winning. Its at like 1.70 now and that's on a dip

But I wish I had went in a bit more

I might buy more at the price its at now

It could fuk around and be in the double digits by years end

But who knows

Its all a gamble

I'm basically putting my sneaker money into crypto this year

Fuggit

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6. "I spent around $60 for 4 million Shib"
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and I realize investing in these coins is a gamble but fuck it

gotta be in it to win it!

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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5. "if I thought heavy about the first time I heard of bitcoin"
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I'd go crazy

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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8. "We're still early when it comes to crypto"
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Most people only know doge, eth and bitcoin. Now's the time to buy since everything is on sale.

You're probably at the place where you can lose 100 and not be stressing. I've found the thing that keeps newcomers out this space is the risk of losing money. Not all coins are straight up and down gambles where you either gain 800% or lose all your money.

I got into DOT when it was $2. It was a solid project, so I held it for months. it got up to $30. You don't have to hit a lick every time you invest. If that $100 can get you 30% over time, shit even 10%, it's still better than letting it sit in a bank account with some young ass APR. If you lose $100, then you can live without it.

  

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11. "Seems like you'd be better off just making a longshot bet on a game"
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Thu May-20-21 07:32 AM by PimpTrickGangstaClik

          

The odds a probably similar.
And at least that seems legitimate versus some fly by night joke/meme spinoff of a joke/meme cryptocurrency.

You wouldn't consider dropping $100 on some crazy basketball parlay. And you probably wouldn't get mad at yourself if that crazy parlay hit without you putting a bet down.

So why would the mindset change for jokey cryptocurrencies?

  

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14. "Smh same thing i heard about Doge back in 2016 "
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I mean yea it is true itc started off as a joke coin

I would be laughing to the bank right now

With shib I wouldn't even need it to reach .50 in 5 years

Also u ain't losing everything in an instant like u do betting on sports

Its volatile as shyt right now but it still has some value even when it dips


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17. "umm.. you can do both"
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always cracks me up when people make it an either this or that situation.

you can lose, win or break even with crypto..

but the key is just holding if it dips instead of panic selling.

You shouldn’t use money you can’t afford to lose.

I’m already invested in IRA, 529, ETF’s and a 401K.. so if this little bit of money is lost it won’t kill me. But if my crypto investments take off.. it could be a nice chunk of change.



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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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18. "It is an either/or decision. You have $100 to put into one thing"
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Put the $100 in some random crypto or put it into some other longshot bet.

You are assuming the random crypto is the better choice. I think that's a bad assumption.

  

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20. "you want it to be one way.. "
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but they have smaller denominations..

and it sounds like you want to win or lose fast vs investing and waiting.

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Cold Truth
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21. "The options are invest or don't invest, not invest in this or that"
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Nested beneath the "invest" option is.... everything there is to invest in.

Those options are then pared down based on your goals, potential returns, risk, cost, your budget, etc.

Your budget will be based on what you can afford, what you can afford or are willing to lose, etc.

It's only "this or that" if... you decide to do this or that, or narrow down your options to the point where that somehow becomes a this/that option, like a single share of two seperate stocks that cost whatever it is you're able to spend.

In this scenario?

You can bet $50 on that longshot game, and you can put $50 in crypto.

But that comes after you've made the invest or don't invest decision.

  

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22. "reminds me of people who say Doge vs Shib!!! "
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like you can’t invest in both.. lol.

but I guess that is how you approach it if you aren’t a fam of crypto.

has to be one or the other because lord knows if you do both the whole world will collapse.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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25. "You don't "have to" invest in either one. You could choose neither"
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If someone offers you two different bets with terrible odds, you would likely reject both.

If you usually wouldn't gamble, why would you "invest" in something that has gambling payoffs

  

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30. "Do you often tell people what they would or wouldn't do?"
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It's like you're just waiting for your turn to talk.

Moreover, you seem to be more interested in reading my mind than listening to what I have to say.

I know this because you're asking questions I've already answered.

You're also REALLY hung up on this gambling dichotomy, because in your mind, putting money on The Big Game is identical to investing in Crypto.

I'm sure your bet and really like to put money on The Big Game or whateverthefuck, but that doesn't hold the same appeal for everyone else. Even if they're "technically" the same, they're not, if for no other reason than one appeals to me and the other doesn't appeal to me in the slightest.

I have no idea what you're trying to accomplish in this discussion, but all you're doing is projecting your own perspectives and thought processes onto other people.

  

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32. "k"
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24. "The point is most people would never consider betting on a long shot"
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Not even one dollar. They would say it's a crazy bet or a sucker's bet.


But something with similar or worse risk/return tradeoffs (crypto) has people opening up their wallets.

  

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33. "No, the point is you think know me"
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It's like you're just waiting for your turn to talk.

Moreover, you seem to be more interested in reading my mind than listening to what I have to say. You're too busy thinking you know me, my mind, my thoughts, how I make decisions, etc.

Whatever you think you know about people in general, that doesn't always apply to everyone, all the time, under every circumstance.

Stop that shit. It's a really bad way to engage with people, on any discussion.

You're also asking questions I've already answered.

You're also REALLY hung up on this gambling dichotomy, because in your mind, putting money on The Big Game is identical to investing in Crypto.

If you like to put money on The Big Game or whateverthefuck, cool.

That doesn't hold the same appeal for everyone else. Even if they're "technically" the same, they're not, if for no other reason than one appeals to me and the other doesn't appeal to me in the slightest.

I have no idea what you're trying to accomplish in this discussion, but all you're doing is projecting your own perspectives and thought processes onto other people.

  

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34. "k"
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>It's like you're just waiting for your turn to talk.
>
>Moreover, you seem to be more interested in reading my mind
>than listening to what I have to say. You're too busy thinking
>you know me, my mind, my thoughts, how I make decisions, etc.
>
>
>Whatever you think you know about people in general, that
>doesn't always apply to everyone, all the time, under every
>circumstance.
>
>Stop that shit. It's a really bad way to engage with people,
>on any discussion.
>
>You're also asking questions I've already answered.
>
>You're also REALLY hung up on this gambling dichotomy, because
>in your mind, putting money on The Big Game is identical to
>investing in Crypto.
>
>If you like to put money on The Big Game or whateverthefuck,
>cool.
>
>That doesn't hold the same appeal for everyone else. Even if
>they're "technically" the same, they're not, if for no other
>reason than one appeals to me and the other doesn't appeal to
>me in the slightest.
>
>I have no idea what you're trying to accomplish in this
>discussion, but all you're doing is projecting your own
>perspectives and thought processes onto other people.

  

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40. "I enjoy roulette when I go to the casino"
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odds aren’t great and the house usually wins but I go in with the mindset that its money I can afford to lose.

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Cold Truth
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19. "lol, do you know what an inner monologue is? "
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he odds a probably similar.
>And at least that seems legitimate versus some fly by night
>joke/meme spinoff of a joke/meme cryptocurrency.
>
>You wouldn't consider dropping $100 on some crazy basketball
>parlay. And you probably wouldn't get mad at yourself if that
>crazy parlay hit without you putting a bet down.
>
>So why would the mindset change for jokey cryptocurrencies?

Anyone who actual knows me- includimg OKP's who know me off site will read what I wrote and laugh because that little bit right there is how my brain processes every decision there is to make. It doesn't really matter what the subject is. Not necessarily to that extent, but I generally run through a similar list of pro/cons.

So my mentality doesn't change with crypto. Given what it is, what that means, etc, it arguably makes it more pronounced because it's life changing, but it doesn't change.

Also, I don't gamble. And despite being a Lakers/NBA fan, I have no interest at all in sports betting.

Mentally, this is more like a lottery ticket.

Sure, I'll buy lottery tickets here and there, join a pool when it reaches ungodly amounts, etc. I just don't drop $100 on lottery tickets. I'll likely wind up putting a little money into it.

But this post was just a list of the different thoughts I think on the subject, and the little scenic path my brains takes on it's way there.

  

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27. "MAN. someone told me about bitcoin back in 2012-2013"
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I had to step back into my career but I was a toxic pick becuase I had such a massive gap in work history (long stupid story) so I worked retail. This was when I was living in SF...so, you know, rich motherfuckers everywhere.

The store was beneath luxury condos. There was a rich tech asshole who would try to bro down with us during breaks.

Not once, but like, SEV-ER-AL times he would just scream "YA'LL BUY SOME BITCOIN AND THANK ME IN 5 YEARS"

us: what the fuck is he talking about?

also us: yo, why would anybody need digital money? scam. can't truss it.



bitcoin was somewhere between a dollar or 15 or 100 depending.


I'm not salty about it, I just wished I was more informed. Ya figure, living in SF, I had seen soooooo so many start ups come and go, there was no way to know if this was a bet or some hype machine bullshit.

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52. "If I would've carried through with getting an ASIC miner back in the day"
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It would've went to a wallet that I wouldn't remember the password to today. Or worst, I would've had a paper wallet that I couldn't read today.

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7. "I'm not worried"
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I moved all my BTC to FIAT after the news about the Bitcoin ban in china.

Outside of that, I'm glad the market had to chill to knock off all of these Dogecoin nuts and Elon tweets. All the coins I missed out on are on sale so I'm about to scoop some up and hold.

  

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9. "i'm buying"
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10. "I want to diversify, what's best way to buy this Shibu? "
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"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"

  

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12. "crypto.com "
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Just download the app.


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13. "is the shibatoken.net site not legit?"
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"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"

  

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15. "It is its just easier on crypto.com"
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16. "bet...thanks...downloading now. I also have bitpay..."
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"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"

  

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23. "Up $xxx,xxx in Doge"
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Own well over 136+ million Shiba Inu token aiming for 500 million by the end of the year. The more coins I buy the more money I make if it hits the $0.00s. If it dips to $20 per 7 million coins around $212 (crypto.com fees) buys 70 million coins. I could exceed 500 million coins easily. Might aim for a billion at that point.

Have some trx, sia, usdt, ethereum, raven, and digibyte.

Only reason I haven't exited Doge is some price predictions have it reaching $2.50 by the end of the year. It hit 75 cents days before Elon's SNL appearance but I couldn't sell because of the 40℅ capital gains tax hit but I can exit right now and win.



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42. "damn"
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****************
TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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133. "That's awesome."
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I dumped a lot of doge to BTC. Riding that wave to +$100k per BTC.

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28. "which exchange do you all use? coinbase? crypto.com?"
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binance?

and are there significant pros/cons with each?

  

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31. "coinbase"
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Totally new when I jumped in a couple months ago and it was pretty easy to navigate

  

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37. "I use crypto.com for my shiba and cardano and robinhood for doge"
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I got a coinbase but I haven't purchased anything from it yet
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476. "$HOOD IPO'd a month after this tweet at $35 it is now at $10"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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74. "Coinbase gave me five 'free' crypto currency types"
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when I first opened up the account. I put free in quote because to get them transferred to my account, I had to watch and answer some questions in the coinbase app about the different crypto currencies. It was true outside of the current BitCoin that I have. From what I remember, I think Coinbase gives you $5 worth of BitCoin just for opening up the account, but I could be mistaken there.


If there are other crypto currency trading options that give you fee crypto currencies for opening up an account, I'd love for others to let it be known.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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29. "Buying. Imagine panic selling during the March 2020 crash"
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Those people are kicking themselves to this day.

Its either zero or hundred as far as im concerned.

"They used to call me Baby Luke....but now? The whole damn 2 Liiiive Crew."

  

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35. "So is this Shiba Inu coin the current "hot" coin?"
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36. "Follow up question: Is Cardano a good buy at $1.80?"
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this shit is so confusing but i think i'm starting to wrap my head around it. i think.

  

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39. "It is but I would wait for a dip"
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It was at 2.40 a few days ago so it might be heading there again so that's y I say u could prolly buy now

I personally just try to make a habit of buying at a dip

Yesterday was a fire sale

It dipped down to almost $1

Don't know when or if it'll go down that low again but I would buy a dip. Even if its just 10 cents from when I initially want to purchase
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43. "i guess i'm asking if it's a quality coin. from what i'm reading "
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it looks legit. or at least as legit as crypto can get.

it's backed by a good team and it's energy usage is more efficient than bitcoin (which seems to be more and more important).

i have a brokerage account and follow the non-crypto market daily so i totally understand buying on dips. just trying to figure out if $1.80 is a good dip to buy at. seems like it may be.

  

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59. "it dipped too.. down approx. 20 cents"
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548. "it's now worth 35 cents"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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38. "don't even touch it. it's a trash meme. "
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don't buy the rumor.

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41. "lmao.. didn’t they say the same thing about Doge? "
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I’m willing to risk a few dollars to find out.

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45. "He's got a halfway point though. "
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Every last one of these coins had serious scrutiny until it blew the fuck up.

The numbers are what they are, and I'm essentially deciding on whether to cop a $100 lottery ticket, and I view buying a lottery ticket the way I view paying for entertainment.

It's definitely not an investment IMO. It's a shot in the semi-dark at a time when it's quite possibly in the early stages of a boom period.

But by and large, it's better to just take the time and discipline to learn sound investment strategies.

  

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47. "nah man, I got a point point. stay away from hype coins. "
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I'm a grizzled ass believer in crypto. some of it is good, some of it will change the world, most of it is greasy fat finger cash grab trash.

you can definitely make money off of it, but when it comes to joke-y hype shit, I'm off that because...

people are still playing pump and dump games. people are still listening for pump and dump signals.

get in, make your sats, but go in knowing that a group of players have a moment in mind to pull that rug and run - you won't know when it will happen, so have your price point in mind, set up a stop loss and keep it moving.

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48. "which ones are worth getting into right now?"
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which are the good ones that you think will be good investments in the long term?

  

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51. "keep your eye on the ERC-1155 standard and what might come"
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the use case for semi-fungible assets is yet to be seen, but if this works...interesting things might happen.

I really can't call it because it's all opinion based and I've yet to see a single strong opinion that isnt trying to play an angle.

Essentially...and I hate doing this, do your research and buy things you like. EVERY time I bought off hype, I lost money, every time I bought into something I believe in, I did well.

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49. "It's a half point in that it may not matter to he/me/etc"
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We all know that much, I think.

I think we understand the volatility involved, hence the reason I view it as a lotto ticket, despite there are ways to manage it.

It's obvious that people are playing these markets. We recognize that.

There's a difference between going in viewing it as a serious investment- which is where your point is a full point- and approaching it like a casino, which is where it becomes a half point, because the point your making is one we're already aware of, even if that awareness isn't a sophisticated of the deeper mechanics that drive it.

I hope that makes sense. I'm not discounting your point itself, because it's valid. It's that the mileage of that point varies depending on the approach and understanding the person has going in.

it's why I'm drawing the distinction between a sound investment approach and a gambling approach.

  

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50. "i overstand. "
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im taking the perspective that more and more and more and more people are getting into investing & crypto thinking it's going to be easy peasy money and not ready to lose, not even 5% of the initial investment.



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53. "its still an “investment”"
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just may not always be a good one.. lol

like you said below, we know the risk with these cryptos that are less than a penny. That’s what makes them attractive.

but any individual stock that you buy can go up or down..

I’ve been burned by FOMO on a few stocks like Roku and Palantir. I just have to wait them out or say fuck it and eat the loss if they never bounce back.

so yes, these coins are risky af but I know this and didn’t use my kids college funds.

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54. "I'm just getting at my psychological framing of it"
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I think gambling and investing are damn near synonymous most times, because one is, essentially, the other to an extent.

Leaning heavier toward one term or another is, for me, a matter of expectation.

  

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58. "yeah.. its a bit of both"
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and I look at these stocks way too often.

I need to step away and just let these ride for a few years. That was always the plan but its hard to not check and react when you see something taking off or falling hard.

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56. "I think palantir is a long play. like...a few years. "
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similar to how FB played out.

open at 38 - drop to 18 6 months out

now at 3 something.

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57. "yeah.. not to pat myself on the back but this is the first time"
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I’ve told myself to chill the fuck out and just let these stocks sit until they go green.

when I first started I would eat the loss trying to find the next stock.

I’m still challenging myself to see red and see a coupon code.

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46. "and? Doge is a joke coin, this is a joke coin about a joke coin. "
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fuck.

we really are about to enter 2017 again arent we?

*waves arm against landscape*

Remember the heady times of 2016-2017?

The time that brought us,

Potcoin

Jesus Coin

Trump Coin

Coinye

BitConnect

etc.



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44. "wrong place"
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Thu May-20-21 04:15 PM by Mafamaticks

  

          

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SeV
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55. "Fire Sale Friday!"
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Red red red
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60. "thanks"
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@silentintellect

  

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61. "Thank you for the thread and this post."
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Doing my research on seemingly environmentally clean crypto currencies. I dumped some funds in Cardano today. Might look into another clean crypto coin to invest in later on tonight as well.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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62. "hope everyone treats crypto like vegas money"
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you know, money that you kind of expect to lose.

i have a small stake and will probably nibble on this crash (or whatever is going on right now).

but yeah, smh at those who have more than like 1% of their net worth in this stuff.

  

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63. "lolz"
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64. "I hope people are buying and not selling right now"
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people tend too do the opposite for some reason.

shit is on sale.

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65. "I sold. I'm buying back in tho when it finishes bottoming out"
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Just talking bout my cardano

I sold my doge b4 the crash to cop more amc

But I'm going to go in once Cardano reaches $1 or less

This a great opportunity for those looking to get in





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66. "I’ll buy when it dips below $20K….might not be too long the way"
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Things are going….

Fortunately I cashed out at the last uptick


"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"

  

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67. "Huge drops/dips are terrifying"
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>people tend too do the opposite for some reason.
>
>shit is on sale.
>
>
For most people just holding is a challenge in itself, and the thought of buying is really difficult. If it were that easy, everyone would be rich. I've never sold during lows, but the typical thoughts are "what if this is actually the one that sends us into another crypto winter for years and have to hold these bags. What if this is a coin that isn't going to survive such a winter (99% of alts die)." And sometimes you just don't buy the right dip, and it dips even further. It really is like trying to catch a falling knife. But this last month has been good if you are a risk taker and want to swing trade when the big 10-20% dips and pumps every week. I've fortunately bought low and don't have to worry much.

  

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68. "It's not terrifying if you're playing the game with disposable funds"
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which is what everyone should be doing with crypto.

  

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70. "Even if I am gambling with money I know I can afford to lose..."
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watching 5 to 6 figures of "disposable" money disappear in minutes still feels awful. And it's terrifying because you're now considering throwing in additional money while there's blood on the streets, even if the new money is also disposable. Don't get me wrong, I don't ever sell low or FOMO and buy high, but even I hesitate to put in more money with the kind of dips we've been seeing in recent weeks.

  

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77. "while this should be true.. it simply isn’t "
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some people can’t stop themselves from selling when shit tanks because they are afraid of losing it all even when its disposable income.

I made that mistake a few times but its a great feeling to wait out a dip and see it rebound.

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71. "lolz"
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72. "Added 3 million hoge"
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By directly converting eth using trust wallet.

Add to my doge position every month.

My quest to 1 billion shiba inu coins continues!

While up six figures in doge it still hasn't peaked at stablecoin status of $1

No empathy for white misery (c) BDot

"root for everybody black haters say that's crazy, wow..."

  

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69. "fuck a dirty duck. I have several K tied up in binance...FML"
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i did a dumb thing and let some alts sit in binance and somewhere along that time when I wasnt looking, binance US kind of became it's own thing so, I can log into the global binance site and see my monies, but I cannot log into binance us and move shit. it's frustrating.

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119. "RE: fuck a dirty duck. I have several K tied up in binance...FML"
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if your account hasn't been purged use a VPN from um Canada or Europe and log on. Move everything off OG Binance to US Binance.

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73. "Seeing some decent returns"
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with the little chump change I invested some months ago. The gains I've seen this week or so makes me wish I invested even more when the markets were down about two or so months ago.

The one thing I dislike about the crypto currencies is that is seems all of the different types seem to ride the wave of how well BitCoin is doing. I guess that's just the nature of how dominant BitCoin is in terms of it's ubiquity relative to the other crypto currencies.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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75. "Bought during the dips and am doing well right now."
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The last couple of months really did feel bearish, and buying those dips felt riskier than usual. I can't help but feel like there's some negative correlation between crypto performance and developments regarding COVID.

  

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76. "I love seeing my money make money"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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78. "My Cardano and Shiba printing 💰 "
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Kinda regret selling doge

It went into another investment so I'm not that salty but still

Trying to resist fomo'n back in

But yea

That dip in the market is doing me good right now


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79. "Elon Musk constantly manipulating DOGE"
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doesn't make you a bit skeptical? That and the fact it isn't tied to some actual use makes me a bit leery.

Good on you and the other folks that are profiting from DOGE though.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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80. "More skeptical about hedge funds pumping and dumping"
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To create liquidity

I'm not going to buy back into doge.

But it is tempting when I see it pump like that
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81. "Anyone else follow Black Bitcoin Billionaires on Clubhouse?"
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The folks involved in it put out some good content all the time, whether for the beginner or more advanced.

<-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><->
<-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><->

  

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83. "I started following after they were on the 85 South Show."
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Twitter & IG: @rulerofmyself
SC: rulerofmyself17

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82. "All my extra money been going to me tryna buy a house"
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I haven't even following crypto the past couple weeks.

  

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84. "buying a house was the best investment I have ever made"
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got lucky and bought in a hot market right after the bubble burst

did no research.. lol. Just got lucky.

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85. "Huge dump"
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Sheeeesh


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86. "one of the bigger ones in the minute, but if you're in the green"
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nothing really phases you.

  

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87. "Still up in Cardano in overall investments"
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but I lost some of the gains I had in my other cryptocurrencies with today's very rapid selling off.

I'm hoping the relatively low prices will convince folks to slowly re-invest in the market to bring prices back up.

It looks as if 11:00 AM EST was the floor for the majority of the cryptocurrencies today.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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88. "And the rebound seems to be ongoing today"
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At least for my investments, I've been doing quite well today.

Greedily, I want to see Cardano get back to the $3.00 range it was at earlier this week before the huge multi-currency selloffs occurred. I'm still up just in my Cardano investments since I bought in when Cardano was roughly $1.50 or so per share.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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89. "These fees suck"
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They charge fees for transferring and exchanging crypto.

Pancakeswap makes millions off fees.

Bought 7.6 billion Carma, x00 million safemoon and a few million hoge.

No empathy for white misery (c) BDot

"root for everybody black haters say that's crazy, wow..."

  

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90. "They do suck, and they also keep me away from trying to day trade"
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I've been pretty good at knowing when to buy and sell, but the fees are definitely a deterrent from doing it more frequently. Perhaps it's for the best.

  

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91. "Shiba goin crazy"
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92. "If you're going to roll the dice on a high reward/low risk on SHIB"
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Now's the time. It's up on Coinbase and Binance as we speak.

I already have a small crypto fund running and I rerouted a good portion of it to SHIB.

I'm still going in with a gambler's mentality approach.

If the whole thing tanked, it's not enough to matter in the grand scheme, and I won't miss it.

Conversely, it's enough to be seriously life changing if it ever hits a penny.

The more I thought about it, I realized, this isn't enough to do much of anything for me right today, and we're in a good position financially.

But I'd feel sick to my stomach if I didn't take a gamble on something that cost so little, if this turned out to be yet another train I overlooked or was too lazy/skeptical/cheap to hop on, at a time when the potential loss would hurt the absolute least.

I'm good with it.

  

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93. "WeBull says crypto trading is not available if you live in NY"
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The fuck kinda shit is that? If this blows and I can’t get in because of that, I’m legit spending the rest of my life finding out who I have to fuck up for that.

Where else can I buy this?

  

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94. "I use Coinbase."
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I'd get on that signup process asap

  

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95. "Man, I tried that too and it wouldn’t let me"
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I read about some workaround on Reddit - just give them your debit card and not your bank account. Nope. Didn’t work. It’s not just NY - some other states too. Fuckin ridiculous.

  

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110. "have you tried since? "
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There will be more runs, but right now this shit is going ballistic.

At least to me lol

  

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115. "Finally figured out a workaround"
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Buy ethereum on Coinbase, transfer it to MetaMask, and then swap it for shib.

Of course, I got in right as it stopped going up. Throw in all the fees I had to pay to do all that transferring and converting above and I’m down.

Hopefully this thing isn’t done, smh.

  

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96. "You're not going to miss out"
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I mean you can get 7 million tokens for about $60 right now

Its not going to get to a penny till around 2023

U can fomo into it now if u want tho

I use crypto.com

Crazy stuff going on tonite

I watched a fan coin go from $10 to $150 in a matter of minutes

They cut off buying and selling because there wasn't enough liquidity

Shyts nuts
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97. "Never seen anything like this"
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20 minute span

https://twitter.com/ono_matokana/status/1438724326711181324?s=19

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98. "I got 4 mill Shib for $25 about 6 months ago"
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I have solid investments in my 401K and IRA so why not throw a dub at crypto every now and then. If nothing happens.. oh well, but if it pops its a nice come up.

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99. "Another Fire Sale as China bans crypto for 464865th time smh"
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I'm waiting till later to buy after the U.S. wakes up to panic sell

Cardano seems to be bouncing off of 2.18 so I might go on in tho

Technically I'll be averaging up but that's still a helluva discount with the type of run its on

Also looking to add some Elrond (egld)

I'm kicking myself for not getting in earlier this summer when it was $80

It's at $230 now but that ish will prolly be 500+ by the end of the year


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100. "Saitama might be the one right now."
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I got 7.5 billion for about $142. I wound up with $102 worth, because it's not currently listed on a major exchange, and I had to buy Ethereum and convert it via uniswap, which has high "gas" fees.

It costs nothing right now.

It has a lot going for it.

https://saitamatoken.com/

-A set roadmap. The site says it's on stage 2, but my understanding is that it should be hitting stage three imminently. It released in June, and surpassed 50k holders this weekend. They also have an upcoming listing on a major exchange, which should be announced soon.Apparently,m there are major names in sports and other entertainment mediums attached to this event.

That has nothing to do with the coin itself, but from a marketing and visibility standpoint, that's a big deal.

-Saitamask wallet coming soon, November 8th or 13th, which coincides with an event and a partnership announcement. As far as I can tell, the wallet itself will function as an exchange all it's own. There's also a focus on financial education as part of the wallet.

-We know who all the devs are. I realize this isn't unique, but it definitely helps with the whole of it. There's a vision, a roadmap, and, as far as I can tell, ambition. This is a meme coin, that isn't at all a meme coin.

I know SHIB has it's own ecosystem, as do others, but by and large this is well laid out, at least to my rudimentary exposure to crypto.

-The coin comes with burn and redistribution features. This is the crazy part.

swiped from the site:

"Passive Income System

2% of every transaction with $SAITAMA is deducted and redistributed to our pool of holders. It means that just by holding it you will see the number of tokens increasing automatically everyday as the community transacts.

Deflationary Currency

An additional 2% of the amount of all transactions is taken out of circulation, meaning that our token supply is constantly shrinking and making your $SAITAMA increase in value with time. We have already started with 49% of the supply burned.

Anti-Whale Trap

Everyone is expected to make profit but we want profit to be for everyone. $SAITAMA is coded in a way that prevents big wallet holders (whales) from trying to manipulate the price in their favour or from dumping the token by selling out. "

I have questions about this last one, but no answers just yet. I need to find out what this means, exactly. I should be able to sell when I want/need.

But I need to clarify what this is, exactly, and how it works.

But the distribution and supply control mechanisms, taken together, is huge. In the two days since I purchased mine, 2,993,922 has been added to my wallet as a result of the redistribution.

That's insane. One thing I heard, but haven't confirmed, is that the distribution you receive increases with the amount you own. Which is mind boggling. You can spend $500 at this point, and just let that shit run.

I think, between the way they've ramped up so quickly already, the wallet, the supply control (does this count as a burn?), redistribution, sheer FOMO from missing out on DOGE and others, along with increased visibility, I'm guessing that we'll see accelerated growth here relative to other coins.

  

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101. "UP. For a few reasons. "
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1. Yes, I'm partly sounding the horn for some shit I'm excited about, and definitely want to make sure people are aware at a time when it costs next to nothing to get in.

2. I want to hear from others in this room that are far better educated than I am on the subject of crypto as a whole, who can probably offer a better critical eye than I have. The vast majority of the sources I've found on it are, like me, shouting the positives of it.

But there are some issues.

The total supply is massive, which makes this look like it will take incredibly long to gain any real traction, because the buying has to increase to absurd numbers for the burn to significantly reduce the amount in circulation. I think that slow growth is part of the plan, so that the whales can't come in an monopolize things early. But I could be reading this wrong.

Saitama definitely isn't a get rich quick token or anything of the sort(unless you already got six figures to put in asap)- but it does appear to have "get holy shit! levels of rich seveen to ten years from now, if you get in now" appeal to it IMO.

I have found a solid YT channel (Saitama Stacker) that does take a measured, critical approach to talking about it.

We're years away from realistically even talking about a penny- but there do seem to be factors that can help accelerate that growth.

  

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102. "Scam"
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104. "why? "
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What's the scam?

I can't find a single indicator of that.

They have a product in development with schrduled release date, a roadmap with specific goals, etc.

I was able to a single reddit post where someone said some random billionaire told him to buy Saitama over a video game, and the immediate responses of "scam" by other reddit posters, and that post changed course as the token took root.

There's no indication that there's anything illegitimate about it, as far as I can tell.

So I'd like to know what your basis is for callimg it a scam

  

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109. "here's why I'm not fucking with it"
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Anybody can make a whitepaper and set goals and shit. That doesn't move me.

After looking at the white paper, only thing I see is that holders get 2% from every transaction. That's a red flag for me. The only value in this coin is to get other people to buy so the bag holders can collect.

They plan on opening a storefront to buy goods and services? I can already do that. Why is this marketplace any different? what goods are they selling that I can't get anywhere else?

A platform to build NFTs? I can already do that on a more established platform. Why should I have to wait for them?

Edutainment? I can just go to decrypt.co to learn about Crypto.


All that before I even checked to see how the coins are currently distributed and if the devs are doxxed.

It's crypto so there's always a chance to make money off of other people's naivete, but I'm good of this.

  

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281. "Those objections can apply to so many things. "
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>Anybody can make a whitepaper and set goals and shit. That
>doesn't move me.

>After looking at the white paper, only thing I see is that
>holders get 2% from every transaction. That's a red flag for
>me. The only value in this coin is to get other people to buy
>so the bag holders can collect.

Can you explain how you arrived at the conclusion that this is the "only" value?

>They plan on opening a storefront to buy goods and services? I
>can already do that. Why is this marketplace any different?

Why does it need to be "different" to be useful?

>what goods are they selling that I can't get anywhere else?

Why by from Target when you can get the same thing at WalMart?

I'm sorry, but these aren't much in terms of objections.

>A platform to build NFTs? I can already do that on a more
>established platform. Why should I have to wait for them?

Again, not much of an actual objection to the coin itself. All you've said so far, amounts to, "I have other options for the same things", but they don't really say anything about any perceived flaws in the coin or the plan.

Which is fine, if that's all you're saying.

>All that before I even checked to see how the coins are
>currently distributed and if the devs are doxxed.

The devs are fully doxxed.

  

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103. "Saw a fairly interesting reference to MiamiCoin on DrudgeReport earlier ..."
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This isn't the article I saw linked, but it is fairly interesting. I'm not sure how I feel about the electricity usage that'll come with Florida potentially becoming a center for cryto-mining, but it is what it is I suppose in terms of folks wanting to profit.

link: https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/09/30/crypto-miamicoin/

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Crypto tax: ‘MiamiCoin’ has made the city $7 million so far, a potential game-changer for revenue collection


The South Florida city is the first municipality to accept cryptocurrency contributions through CityCoins, which the mayor says may one day take the place of taxes

Miami Mayor Francis Suarez has a plan to transform the city into the world’s “cryptocurrency innovation hub,” and one of the outcomes, he claims, could be a metropolis free from taxes.

The lofty idea is the byproduct of a cooperation with CityCoins, a nonprofit and opensource protocol that allows people to hold and trade cryptocurrency representing a stake in a municipality. By running software on their personal computers, CityCoins’ users mint new tokens and earn a percentage of the cryptocurrency they create. A computer program automatically allocates 30 percent of the currency to a select city, while users get the other 70 percent.

Since CityCoins unveiled “MiamiCoin” in August, the protocol has sent about $7.1 million to Miami. (City commissioners agreed to accept the donations on Sept. 13.)

While the program is still in its infancy, Suarez (R) estimates the effort could generate as much as $60 million for Miami over the next year and ultimately “revolutionize” how the city funds programs that address poverty and other societal issues.

“When you think about the possibility of being able to run a government without the citizens having to pay taxes. That’s incredible,” Suarez said, adding that the partnership creates a “counternarrative” to the idea that city programs require raising taxes or “private sector philanthropy.”

CityCoins fits snugly into Suarez’s overall direction in Miami, as a business-friendly environment welcoming tech companies that want to benefit from warm weather and low state taxes. The mayor says he is having discussions with mining companies about setting up operations near a South Florida power plant and ultimately wants to rebrand the city from a travel destination to a technology hub.

Over the past year, several financial and tech firms set up offices in the city, including Goldman Sachs, SoftBank and Blackstone, according to Suarez. In June, the crypto wallet Blockchain.com announced it was moving its headquarters from New York City to Miami, citing the city’s “welcoming regulatory environment serving as a hotbed of crypto innovation,” the company revealed in a news release. That same month, the stock-trading platform eToro announced plans to establish offices in the city.

Miami is attempting to integrate cryptocurrency into city government. According to Suarez, it is exploring allowing city employees to get paid in bitcoin and allowing residents to pay some fees and taxes in bitcoin. The city held the world’s largest bitcoin conference in June for thousands of enthusiasts.

CityCoins describes itself as more of a collective than a business. It’s the brainchild of the platform’s community leader, Patrick Stanley, who says CityCoins’ strategy is guided by cryptocurrency enthusiasts online who communicate on the chat platform Discord and vote on what’s next.

CityCoins is a community "that is trying to bring something into existence, that didn’t exist before, for the betterment of all citizens in the respective cities,” Stanley said.

Cryptocurrencies are pieces of digital code that allow people to buy, sell and build wealth. Miners create new cryptocurrencies by running software on networks of computers, while the code works to solve mathematical problems adding the transactions to a public ledger, known as a blockchain. New tokens are awarded in a lottery-like system to people running the software.

MiamiCoin relies on a base cryptocurrency called Stacks. As miners mint Stacks and forward the tokens into CityCoins, MiamiCoins are generated. Miners who send the most Stacks have the best chances of being awarded new MiamiCoins.

People interested in buying or trading MiamiCoin can find it on the crypto exchange Okcoin, where the token traded for just over two cents ($0.026) this week.

The tokens can be bought or mined by people wanting to support Miami, and they gain value if the demand is higher than the supply. In a world where an unlimited number of new cryptocurrencies are popping up, CityCoin’s launch benefits from increasing attention to its effort, potentially increasing the value of the currency.

“It’s a way of getting people to mine your currency as opposed to the hundreds of others out there,” said David Sacco, an economics professor at the University of New Haven.

But Miami’s vote to accept the tokens as contributions was a pivotal moment for the cryptocurrency industry, which is seeking to gain momentum and utility among broader society as it faces increased scrutiny from regulators. Lawmakers have voiced concern over what happens when shadowy financial instruments, not subject to normal oversight vehicles, grow without control of regulators.

Miami’s reserve wallet automatically converts deposited tokens into U.S. dollars, with city officials deciding when to cash out. Anyone can download MiamiCoin software to compete for rewards, which creates legal considerations for the city, experts say.

“One thing to consider is who you are accepting donations from,” said Max Dilendorf, a New York attorney at Zahn Law Group who focuses on digital securities. “I could be a world criminal sitting somewhere in Iraq or in Russia and have a frontman making a donation through MiamiCoin.”

The city is not spending the money for six months to insulate itself from fraud and misuse and to give city officials time to respond if issues arise, according to Suarez. “There are scenarios under which we would pull back,” the mayor said. “What if there’s some fraud involved, or if people sue? We have no reason to believe that is happening. But anything can happen. And we want to be careful.”

Miami’s high-profile attempts to attract cryptocurrency investment drew CityCoins, and there’s now competition among cities to create similar partnerships, Stanley said.

San Francisco, an epicenter of the tech industry, is probably next to get a CityCoins token, according to CityCoins website, which has a tool that lets people vote for where to show up next.

“The community is actively chatting online,” Stanley said. “Do we launch in New York, do we launch in Austin, San Francisco, Singapore or Seoul.”

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105. "👀"
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106. "I don't see the appeal beyond speculation."
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What am I missing?

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107. "It's currency independent of the dollar essentially untaxed"
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As long as you dont sell within a year and the value of your investment isn't too high to raise red flags.

The appeal is spend $60 today watch that turn into five, six, or seven figures tomorrow.

No empathy for white misery (c) BDot

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108. "Sounds like speculation."
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What value is being created to justify the increase in price? I don't gamble and this looks a lot like gambling to me.

I'm not talking shit and I damn sure ain't trynna rain on anyone's parade. I'm seriously asking...

Where is the value coming from?

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111. "Value comes from momentum"
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... generated from people buying in and special projects attached to the coin/token. For example carma coin has giveaways. The more people buy in the more giveaways but this sentence reads like a scam.

Safemoon already made people millionaires and the momentum came from their app that's also a wallet for other crypto.

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112. "there's no description of this that doesn't make it sound"
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like a pyramid scheme


www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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113. "That depends on the currency"
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Bitcoin was originally created to be a fiat currency that isn’t controlled by a central authority. Bitcoins value is set by all of the participants in its network and it has certain characteristics that can make it an attractive place to store value away from centrally controlled fiat currencies like the dollar.

Most centrally controlled currencies are setup to have at least mild inflation… the fact that your dollar will be able to purchase less in the future motivates many people to invest into businesses and assets that will grow in value over time (hopefully faster than inflation). At worst, governments can lose control of inflation, which can dramatically reduce a populations purchasing power in a short time, reducing their quality of life. A lot of people see the US and many other countries heading into a high inflationary era due to our huge deficits and debt. They see Bitcoin, which is configured to be deflationary, as a good place to keep their money in the long term bc the value will grow as the dollars value shrinks.

I see Etherium and many of the currencies based on it as more like tech stocks. They’re finding uses for blockchain technology that will eventually change how we do business so ownership in these currencies is basically betting on the next big tech company.

Then you have a bunch of meme/shit coins that basically have no use other than a means to speculate, like dogecoin. If you buy them, you’re just hoping it catches fire in the media so you can sell to the bigger fool later.

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117. "unstoppable programmable monies."
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121. "And you can take it with you."
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memorize your seed phrase and destroy the copies.

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124. "I could post a seed phrase here..."
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that unlocks a $1000 in the form of 24 words.

If you had enough computational power you could brute force a seed phrase...

Satoshi's seed has access to ~$64 billion dollars. Maybe he has a daemon on the internet waiting for an event to send it to all the active BTC addresses in existence. Or not. That would be interesting though.

https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0039/english.txt



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114. "Brave Browser and BAT tokens"
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Do folks here use the Brave Browser? On a monthly basis, the browser generated BAT token that 'pay' you to allow small ads to load up on the lower right hand side of the screen. I was lazy in the past in terms of setting up a wallet to properly retrieve the coins. I finally get up a Gemini account and was able to get all the BAT token the browser 'gave' me from the time I've been using the browser.


For folks that are already knowledge of these tokens, is there anything malicious in terms of what the Brave browser folks are doing?

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120. "I use it. Used it since 2018/2019 or so."
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Got some BAT. Got some on Celsius earning me a little extra scratch.

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116. "In since 2017."
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I'm good.

I can retire.

2020 Savings + 401k + stocks + crypto + HSA investments + cash = actual retirement.

Early.

Look at ETH 2 scaling solutions: AVAX, MATIC, and FANTOM.

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122. "RE: In since 2017."
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damn you a vet in the game..

are those three you are bullish on?



in addition to btc/eth....i'm holding some shib, ada, enj right now..

what are some alt coins/projects you feeling?

  

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123. "BTC, ETH, AVAX, FTM, MATIC, RVN..."
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FOX, DOT, ALGO, SNT and XMR.

Bullish AF.

BTC was $2700 when I started. We happy.

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125. "RE: BTC, ETH, AVAX, FTM, MATIC, RVN..."
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*jealous AF*

  

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126. "Never to late."
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Invest in SOMETHING.

Saving cannot save you. Invest.

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128. "RE: Never to late."
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i hear you man. been had some stocks but just started a month ago in crypto with $7k to 'play' with.

besides btc/eth.. what are your next two biggest holdings?

  

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131. "3)UNI/Uniswap and 4)USDC."
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I got UNI for free for using the Uniswap platform when it was in beta. I got a lot via an airdrop - tokens issued to people/addresses who are weird enough to use real money on new software.

I used multiple ETH addresses testing the DEX (decentralized exchange) and was paid out hundreds of UNI. It's $25 per token today.

USDC is a stable coin. Gains get cashed out to USDC.

The airdrop lotto is real. Use a platform early enough before they issue a governance token and you may get a lot of it.

It's nerds paying nerds to test nerd shit.

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141. "You a Crypto OG "
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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145. "Hardly."
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If I was an OG I wouldn't be working.

I'd be on an island somewhere with excellent internet service.

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142. "Are these three"
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>Look at ETH 2 scaling solutions: AVAX, MATIC, and FANTOM.

looking to remedy some of the computing power and environmental concerns that come with the farms used to mine cryptocoins en masse?

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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144. "RE: Are these three"
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They are not proof of work coins - they can interact with the EVM - Ethereum virtual machine - via separate and faster blockchains. So no mining.

Different consensus algos. Staking and using validators uses so some power is used but not as muck as BTC and ETH mining. And that mining is a drop in the bucket compared to large datacenters hosting internet and cloud services.

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118. "BSC BNB is centralized trash."
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don't do it.

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129. "Listen to the Bitcoin Podcast."
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https://thebitcoinpodcast.com/

They have an active Slack with solid info and memes.

No guarantees. You must learn to earn.

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130. "Hbar is my hail mary "
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https://investorplace.com/2021/10/hedera-hashgraph-could-become-ethereums-next-big-competitor/

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134. "Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..."
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*thinking faces*

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132. "SHIB is... interesting."
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It's a BSC BNB token.

There are 4,320,000,000,000 SHIB tokens on BSC BNB.

https://bscscan.com/token/0x2859e4544c4bb03966803b044a93563bd2d0dd4d

Nah... better off looking at BTC and ETH.

But I got a million just in case.

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135. "Copped 1M myself for around $10"
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That $10 is now $30

Lol

If it hits a penny tho I’ll have enough money to buy Montana

  

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136. "Yup I got some because OTHER people"
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were hype. People are hype for the meme coins.

if it ever hits a penny I'm buying a planet. LOL

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138. "A penny is a pipe dream until they have a better burn mechanism"
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>if it ever hits a penny I'm buying a planet. LOL

I mean, that's a 100k.

That aside, there's serious money to be made without it ever getting that far, but at this point you do need a decent investment to see those big returns. But they're there. So far I've tripled the amount I've put in.

It's definitely a FOMO/hype driven currency. The burn mechanism at this point is lackluster. People are hype as hell off it but they need to institute something major to make that happen.

IMO the wave to catch is Saitama, which I think has done a better job implementing a burn mechanism, though I think they need to up the percentage from 2 (really 3.55, since 55% of the redistribution also goes to the dead wallet) to 5.

But that does allow more time for more people to adopt the currency before it starts to hit any significant scarcity. It will never be bitcoin or ethereum, but I don't think that's what it's designed to be, and I think it will develop into more of a practical use currency.

While I think, as with SHIB, much of this is and will be driven by sheer hype FOMO, there's an argument for practical use currency to be made with SHIB and Saitama, and IMO Saitama looks like the one with stronger legs.

Still, there's money to be made off FOMO, and it's still early enough to rake off absurd returns.

15k right now makes you a millionaire if it drops two zeros from where it is now, and that would still be well behind Shib's current price.

Keep in mind, it took Shib all of a year to reach this point, and that didn't have the hype then that Saitama has right now.

That same money, if it ever hits where shib is now, gives you around 28.4 mil.

$500, right today, is a shade under 950K if it ever does what SHIB is doing now.

Which means chopping those numbers down even further still nets a solid return. in terms of risk/reward, I think that's the play.

  

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139. "I'm confused at how I get some Saitama."
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Sorry, I'm still new to this.
I use coinbase.
So, I gotta buy some Ethereum on CB and then trade the ETH for Saitama... on coinbase?

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140. "1. buy on Coinbase 2. Install Coinbase wallet to your phone"
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3. transfer Eth from your CB account to your CB wallet

4. go to uniswap (or the Saitama home page) and exchange your Eth for Saitama.

I recommend doing the exchange the middle of the night, around 1-2 AM, since "gas" fees for Eth trades can be downright absurd during the days.

Also, make sure you delete the last digit of the amount of Saitama and manually enter it right back. There's a weird glitch where it won't go through otherwise.

Or you can create a Bitmart account and wait a week, since that listing is due on the 17th, I believe.

There two other bigger exhcnages supposedly in the pipeline, but then there's the Saitamask wallet dropping on the 13th (though there is currently a beta) where you will be able to buy it directly.

  

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173. "RE: 1. buy on Coinbase 2. Install Coinbase wallet to your phone"
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>3. transfer Eth from your CB account to your CB wallet
>
>4. go to uniswap (or the Saitama home page) and exchange your
>Eth for Saitama.
>
>I recommend doing the exchange the middle of the night, around
>1-2 AM, since "gas" fees for Eth trades can be downright
>absurd during the days.
>
>Also, make sure you delete the last digit of the amount of
>Saitama and manually enter it right back. There's a weird
>glitch where it won't go through otherwise.
>
>Or you can create a Bitmart account and wait a week, since
>that listing is due on the 17th, I believe.
>
>There two other bigger exhcnages supposedly in the pipeline,
>but then there's the Saitamask wallet dropping on the 13th
>(though there is currently a beta) where you will be able to
>buy it directly.

Cold, you saved me bigtime with this 'delete the last digit' advice. I would've lost my mind otherwise, but it damn sure worked! Thanks!

  

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176. "No doubt! That shit drove me crazy for a good half hour"
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178. "You weren't lying about the gas fees"
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I woke up randomly at 4am and was like Oh, like me get that Saitama. I was just gonna get $50 worth and see what it does. They were trying to charge me $50 in fees for the transfer! Had to pass on that. Maybe I'll try at 1am tonight.

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143. "RE: A penny is a pipe dream until they have a better burn mechanism"
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I'm kidding of course but 100k would be a nice surprise.

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137. "nice sale this morning"
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146. "Staked more in staking platforms"
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and borrowed USDC to buy more coins then staked those.

Like Aave. I love Aave - https://app.aave.com/dashboard

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147. "Do all the things. Stake and Lend. Mine if you got GPUs."
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Celsius is legit and have earned me $2700 in crypto - https://app.celsius.network/

Let your money make money.

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149. "Delete if this isn’t ok. "
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Join Celsius Network using my referral code Timothy5618 when signing up and earn $50 in BTC with your first transfer of $400 or more! #UnbankYourself

https://celsiusnetwork.app.link/Timothy5618

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148. "AVAX - Avalanche. It's on Coinbase."
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https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/avalanche

Take a look. It does everything ETH does and all the things ETH2 wants to do.

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150. "Hbar is in the same lane..."
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No empathy for white misery (c) BDot

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151. "Free FOX tokens... I think you can still claim them."
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enter your PUBLIC ETH address to see if you got 400+ FOX tokens (worth ~$0.30 a token).

https://fox.shapeshift.com/airdrop

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152. "I'm falling back with 3 billion+ Saitama"
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Cant wait to splurge and relax.

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153. "That's it? I figured you would have at least hundred billion by now"
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158. "Its not worth the headache"
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Dealing with buying ethereum to pay gass fees to pay to swap crypto to gain Saitama. I could easily have 100 billion if I wanted to.

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154. "What's Saitama?"
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BSC BNB token? Tron? ERC20?

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157. "It's an erc 20 token"
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https://saitamatoken.com/

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162. "Looks like they are planning a Uniswap clone."
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Interesting.

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155. "Find unclaimed airdrops - AKA FREE TOKENS"
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https://earni.fi/

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156. "RE: Find unclaimed airdrops - AKA FREE TOKENS"
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do you think DOT, XLM, UNI, and FTM are still solid buys in the present?

  

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160. "Yes."
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Get money.

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159. "C'mon Cardano"
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Hopefully with the cryptocurrency buying sessions I am seeing right now, Cardano will get within the 2.50's or even better 2.70's range.

Seeing it hit the 3.00 threshold some months ago has me being a bit greedy since it's been in the low 2's since then for several weeks.

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161. "If they actually do smart contracts. Yeah."
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I'm staking a little bit of ADA. Look - it's a gamble. worth a look not a major look. $1000 or less. Minor bet.

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164. "It's not much, but I'm already winning."
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I invested earlier this year when each share was roughly $1.00 or slightly above it. It's been at least $2.10 for the past couple of months now, so technically I am winning.

I want to win more though.

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165. "Same."
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I want more wins. BTC may hit 100k in December according to the "stock-to-flow" model.

And everything in this space follows BTC - up and down. $5 ADA? Very possible.

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163. "Remember: this is gambling. Wall Street too."
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You could lose money. Does not always go up. Most times it's flat. Side ways.

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188. "so many lose sight of this."
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166. "BTC."
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https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/bitcoin

Get. THIS. Money.

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167. "RE: BTC."
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it's a beauty.

  

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168. "Beautimus maxiumus."
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:)

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169. "Look at OXT. "
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https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/orchid-protocol

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170. "RE: Look at OXT. "
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bruh i just saw this now, way too late lol.

where can i sign up for your buy alerts....

  

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171. "I don't ahve anything like that."
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Join this Slack. Listen and learn.

https://thebitcoinpodcast.slack.com

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172. "What would you buy Bitcoin at?"
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I feel like I'm late in the game and buying now seems foolish when it seems like it's back to its previous high of 60k. Obviously I wish I pulled the trigger when it was down to 30k. But I guess my question is more like "Do you see any more room for growth?" Are there reports that Bitcoin will hit 100k?

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174. "CashApp is the easiest way. "
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DCA - aka dollar cost averaging. Buy $100 a month on autopilot.

Set it and forget it.

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175. "i like coinbase pro"
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i first messed with webull because i thought it had/has the nicest user interface (which it does) but it's some bullshit when it comes to actual buying/selling.

i use coinbase pro and binance (for some coins that aren't on coinbase pro).

  

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177. "RE: What would you buy Bitcoin at?"
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>I feel like I'm late in the game and buying now seems foolish
>when it seems like it's back to its previous high of 60k.
>Obviously I wish I pulled the trigger when it was down to 30k.
>But I guess my question is more like "Do you see any more room
>for growth?" Are there reports that Bitcoin will hit 100k?

That 100k thing is out there in several places. Still, the next little time might see a big drop temporarily because the whales will make it happen in order to make sure THEY get in at a price they want. What does everyone think on this?

  

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185. "I'm waiting for 60k"
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Yea I remember it dipped to 29k back in July I think.

I was sleep tho smh


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179. "Today was a good day."
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Shat.

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181. "RE: Today was a good day."
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do you have a profit taking strategy? or just hold it all for long term?

  

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183. "HODL+"
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Take profits and enhance the quality of my life. Or get something I need/want.

New MacBook Pro and AirPods. Getting that.
Line my savings. Getting that.
Line my other other savings. Getting that.

https://thebitcoinpodcast.slack.com/messages/C0QK6L611/ - Join the Bitcoin Podcast Slack. Listen and learn. Ask questions. We help each other in this HODL+ lifestyle.

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186. "RE: HODL+"
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i joined earlier

  

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187. "RE: HODL+"
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Eric S? I'm timothy has... on there. Welcome.

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218. "off topic"
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which macbook pro did you pick up? i got one too.

  

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294. "bought my wife a MacBook Air instead."
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I don't need a laptop - I tried to think of a way to justify it. I'm always at home and at a desk. Apple store was out so I'm getting an M1 Mac mini OR iMac from Costco today.

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180. "Would you trade upwards of 700K+ doge for Shib?"
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It amounts to over 4 billion shib and technically makes me a millionaire two zeroes from now. But I'm not sure because I already own over 20 billion crypto.

No empathy for white misery (c) BDot

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182. "RE: Would you trade upwards of 700K+ doge for Shib?"
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>It amounts to over 4 billion shib and technically makes me a
>millionaire two zeroes from now. But I'm not sure because I
>already own over 20 billion crypto.

I'm making the assumption that this is all disposable dinero. With that, I say something like: go for it..that's basically the point for a bunch of folks with this stuff. Now, the key is this: is that the point AT THIS POINT for you? You have already done well apparently, but what is the next step FOR YOU?

And practically speaking, maybe another angle/question here is this: which of those two coins has a better shot of actually being useful for real at some point based on what we 'know' now?

  

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184. "No. where's ShibaSwap?"
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Doge is at least a BTC fork. Shib needs utility - somewhere.

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189. "Saitama. I'm a little pissed I didn't move my Shib investment"
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Or at least both. Saitama is the one with serious like life changing potential, at least at this point in the game, with what I can reasonably and safely invest relative to what it would need to do to get there. Shiba is way, way off from that mark, though it is nice.

But yeah, saitama has more than tripled since my OP on it. I only has $ 500 in it, so seeing 1799 in that account is a fantastic surprise. But it still eats at me, knowing I could be seeing exponentially greater numbers right now. I have no idea what I was waiting on.

I need people to take a good slice of profit now, lol.

  

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194. "Lol bruh just hold both"
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It'll be smart to keep investments in both

Nobody says you can only have 1 crypto

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I have no idea why u pitting saitama against shib

U don't know when saitama is going to hit a wall and lose steam



Its dumped already and shib is pumping

Just hold em both man





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198. "Oh lord. What a weird reply. You're makimg a lot of assumptions. "
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>It'll be smart to keep investments in both
>
>Nobody says you can only have 1 crypto

I don't have only one crypto. I have several, not named Shiba or Saitama. I didn't say anything that would lead to a reasonable conclusion that I have only one, or somehow think I can only have one.

>I have no idea why u pitting saitama against shib

I have no idea why you wrote that, because nothing I said comes anywhere close to this. There's no basis for your statement whatsoever.

These are the two I happen to be speaking about. I also have *my* own personal goals, for what *I* hope to accomplish. I'm not "pitting" anything against anything. I'm looking at two options and deducing that the returns for one look exponentially greater, in a shorter amount of time, based on where they are in their current pricing, and the amount of capital I have and can reasonably anticipate having to invest.

You can view it through whatever simplistic, low common denomninator fanboy lense you want, but I'm not.

>U don't know when saitama is going to hit a wall and lose
>steam

No shit. Same goes for any number of things. This is a complete non-point. You can say the same about Shib, for that matter.

>Its dumped already and shib is pumping

S. No, it's not "dumped already".

They're both doing what crypto does: rise and fall.

It has a run, and people take profits, often buying back when the price drops again. It's actually holding fairly strong around the low 50's. It's briefly dipped down to the high 40's a few times, jumping right back up to 50.

In fact, I sold all my Saitama, so that I can buy it back. More to the point, so that I can buy it back with Shib when Shib rises.

  

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200. "Wouldn't you be buying back in at a higher price?"
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I doubt it'll dip down to the level u got in at?

Am I reading it wrong

I'm confused
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204. "Yes, you're reading it wrong."
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And yes, you're very confused, just as with the last post.

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205. "You said you sold all your saitama"
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And u bought back in

At a higher price than you initially bought in since it never dropped back down to the initial price


Explain?

>And yes, you're very confused, just as with the last post.
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206. "How do you not understand this basic concept?"
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It doesn't matter what i bought it at.

I sold at a much higher price- and bought it back at a lower price than that what i sold it for. What's so confusing about that?

You buy 100 widgets at $1 each
Said widgets increase to $6 each

You sell them for 600, knowing people will also sell, and the price will drop.

Said widgets drop down to 4.50.

You buy them back, and you now hold 133 widgets for the same $600.

I dunno about you, but I'd rather have 33% more for the same money.

Each their own though.

  

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216. "I completely understand the concept"
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Just don't understand the execution

I'm looking at the charts and I don't see a dip anywhere from the 0.000000020s to the 0.0000000060s

But ok I guess
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226. "I sold at 57. bought it back at 45. I gained more Saitama in the process..."
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Gas fees weren't crazy so its was a worthwhile move.

I'm not aiming for dramatic shifts. I don't understand the fluctuations well enough, and don't have enough capital, to try to those kinds of plays.

But I figured it would dip before it made a push above 60, and I was correct- and bought it back at 45, just above its low for this run. I was correct on this as well.

That's a win under any scenario.

I also converted a significamt chunk of Shib when it hit 44 and Saitama was around 50/51.

My current strategy for a sizeable portion of my portfolio is to leverage Shib gains to increase my Saitama bag. I'm not pitting the two against each other, I'm using both to maximize my gains. I just wish I had done that earlier.

I'm learning as I go here, and I've stayed ahead by a good margin, trying to learn from missed opportunities as I go.

It doesn't rrally need to make sense to you or anyone else. It just needs to reflect in my bottom line.

To your "ok i guess", this are significant net positive moves, and my bottom line proves it. Why are you so pressed? Are you here to scrutinize the moves of the next person? I see you telling jetblack not to let rjcc and others bam up this discussion, and I agree. It's best to ignore them entirely. It's clear that they want to derail this whole thread.

But you're kind of doing too much right now yourself.

  

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228. "Just asking a question about your strategy bruh "
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If that's doing too much in a post about crypto investing then my bad

I simply didn't understand your flip

I got in around the low 30s

Brought some more in the low 40s before the run up

And I just averaged up again around 49

Iv tried to stay away from swing trading crypto because the volatility plus with the market basically being up 24/7 was just too time consuming and risky

I'm just doing what worked for me with shiba in the beginning by just averaging up at different levels of price

Another reason I never thought about swing trading this was other than my timing being horrible when I've tried to execute in the past with different crypto, this shyt involves too many factors for me to feel comfortable doing it

Gas prices

The price of ethereum

Shyt was hard enough trying to time the buy in at the price I wanted it at

Gas was fluctuating $49-$67 in a span of 90 seconds

All while the token price bouncing between 48 and 51

Anyway I was just curious about your strategy

I'll move on











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230. "Nah. Reading your posts, they don't come across that way."
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"I don't know why you're putting saitama vs shib, nobody says you can only have one, ok I guess"

That's not asking a question about my strategy.

That's scrutinizing my noves and priorities based on your own imagjned versions of things I didn't actually say.

We can certainly move on, buy you don't get to oretend you were just chopping it up after I called you out for that fuckshit.

I don't do a lot of swing trading as it is. I've done it a few times, with varying degrees of success.

I've only sone it with Saitama once, and that's the one I told you about. And, once again, despite your condescendingly mystified response....that shit is climbing like crazy, just after I quintupled my Saitama bag with the two trades I told you about🤷🏼

Gas fees are what they are. For me, it's the cost of doing business for the time being, because it's more important to build up that Daitama bag asuvh as possible, as early as possible.

  

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257. "U got it bruh"
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190. "not hating on anyone who invested"
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wishing you good returns. personally, i think crypto is a massive ponzi scheme that is destined to fail. what originally emerged as a *digital currency* has morphed into a *store of value*. a fundamental pivot of such magnitude is indicative of its failure and little to no practical use in the world. nations and banks will never yield control. corporations will never accept crypto as payment due to volatility.

crypto requires constant new investment to retain and raise value. at some point, the threshold limit will be met and the bubble will burst. the whales will walk away with everyone's investments and leave countless in ruin. maybe a bleek outlook, time will tell. if you got in early, good for you, as ponzi's always favor early investors.

  

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191. "You really can't just lump all crypto into the same bucket "
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This ain't 2011

I mean bitcoin is legal tender in El Salvador now

And I'm sure Vietnam, Pakistan & India won't be too

*store of
>value*. a fundamental pivot of such magnitude is indicative of
>its failure

Could be talking about our current fiat banking system with that statement too

Don't know if you been keeping up with the economy but inflation is at a 30yr high

What do you think is going to happen to the dollar when that bubble pops?

and little to no practical use in the world.
>nations and banks will never yield control.

It won't be shut yielding control but they will have to adapt

corporations will
>never accept crypto as payment due to volatility.

Lol once again this ain't 2011



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>crypto requires constant new investment to retain and raise
>value. at some point, the threshold limit will be met and the
>bubble will burst. the whales will walk away with everyone's
>investments and leave countless in ruin. maybe a bleek
>outlook, time will tell. if you got in early, good for you, as
>ponzi's always favor early investors.

There's a lot to unpack with this

But you kind of have an antiquated understanding of crypto

And that's cool

This post is for educational purposes too

I hate to sound all investor bro but u gotta do your DD (due diligence)

This was just a few days ago
https://www.fa-mag.com/news/paul-tudor-jones-is-using-crypto-to-hedge-against-inflation-64503.html

I mean yes the earlier you get in on investments the higher the return

That doesn't make it all a ponzi scheme

Not to say there aren't any pump n dumps out there

But you can avoid em with a lil 'DD'



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193. "strong cosign."
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195. "this has never been said about anything that isn't a ponzi scheme"
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"I mean yes the earlier you get in on investments the higher the return

That doesn't make it all a ponzi scheme"


www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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199. "So basic math is a ponzi scheme?"
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The earlier you get in an investment wither it be stocks or crypto the more you get in your return

I mean what's not to get?

And if I we getting technical maybe yal should find another word because I think on a ponzi scheme you're selling an asset that doesn't actually exist

Maybe you mean pyramid?

I dunno

Either way ur off
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202. "RE: So basic math is a ponzi scheme?"
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crypto are not like stocks at all.

when you buy a stock, you own a piece of a company, that produces real products and offers real services. stocks are regulated and protected by the government.

what does bitcoin provide and who protects your investment?

  

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210. "none of this is dictated by math"
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again, a claim that has only ever been made when someone is trying to scam


www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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196. "and bringing up el salvador is reallllll funny"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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201. "RE: You really can't just lump all crypto into the same bucket "
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>I mean bitcoin is legal tender in El Salvador now

although I respect the size of bukele's balls, the people of El Salvador don't want bitcoin and have rejected it. El Salvador has massive and systemic problems making it a terrible place to live. there is hardly any infrastructure to support blockchain. the country is ruled by gangs and the cartel. 70% of the population is unbanked. pushing rural people who barely have the concept of the internet into blockchain is a pipe dream. there are many reasons to believe bukele's decision was influenced by the cartel.

some things to consider. why did bukele push bitcoin when other cryptos can be sent faster for a few cents? bitcoin is limited to 7 transactions per second with an average transaction fee of $18. bitcoin technology is slow, expensive, and drains energy. to mitigate this issue the government in el salvador will utilize a node on the lightning network hub they control, which means the government will be able to censor transactions, stop, freeze, and regulate. doesn't sound like financial freedom to me but more like a dystopian wet dream. or just maybe, bukele is a crypto bro with a severe case of fomo and a poor nation's resources to pump his investments with. using el salvador as a positive use case for bitcoin is pure fantasy.

>And I'm sure Vietnam, Pakistan & India won't be too

vietnam is probably the best candidate for crypto adoption, time will tell.

the pakistani government is calling for crypto regulation although it has no objection to investment. wasn't crypto supposed to be free of regulation and decentralization? you can see where this is going. (nations will never yield control)

india is considering a crypto ban outright.

>Could be talking about our current fiat banking system with that statement too

on one hand, many crypto investors criticize fiat and attempt to liken it to some of the most fundamental flaws in our financial system with whataboutism, and on the other, they amass crypto in order to exchange it for fiat. philosoraptor enters the room. what are you investing in if not for high fiat returns? if everyone buys, the value goes up, if everyone sells, the value falls. the intrinsic similarities between crypto and ponzi are self evident, everyone can't win.

>Don't know if you been keeping up with the economy but inflation is at a 30yr high

the impact of the pandemic is clear, but it is not a forever problem. vaccination rates are on the rise and society is steadily returning to "normalcy". it may get worse before it gets better, but the global economy will recover. the pandemic was a black swan event that for all intents and purposes the world has done quite well to endure. it is no surprise the value of crypto went up at this time, and it is telling, that it relies on global catastrophe to prosper. what does crypto look like in a post pandemic world when the economy recovers do you think?

>What do you think is going to happen to the dollar when that bubble pops?

can you go into some detail here?

>It won't be shut yielding control but they will have to adapt

bitcoin will never be adopted by the big players. it's garbage tech with high transaction fees and massive negative impact on energy with high volatility. it costs me $0 to send and receive funds via my online bank portal using the speed of light. what problem is bitcoin solving exactly? i also have security and insurance and someone i can call if a problem arises. who do you call if you input just 1 wrong character on your crypto transaction? noone, because those funds are gone forever. who do you call if you have been hacked? noone. being your own bank is a lot more complicated and nuanced than crypto investors are willing to admit. many of the problems that bitcoin is positioning itself against have already been solved and are handled 1000x more efficiently, that is not to say there are no uses for blockchain, and many of the big players are building their own, they will never ever yield control.


corporations will
>never accept crypto as payment due to volatility.

>Lol once again this ain't 2011

would like to hear you expand on that a bit.


>But you kind of have an antiquated understanding of crypto

can you go into some detail?


>https://www.fa-mag.com/news/paul-tudor-jones-is-using-crypto-to-hedge-against-inflation-64503.html

everyone who invests in crypto becomes an instant marketer and salesman for crypto, essentially working for free. the more you can recruit, the higher your returns, bitcoin is the greatest mlm, ponzi ever created. doesn't matter how much you put in, the lambo dreams are strong. paul is clearly a whale and whales benefit the most, just like musk, who can change the value of your investment with a tweet. does this sound stable and secure to you?

>I mean yes the earlier you get in on investments the higher the return

this is the essence of ponzi.


>Not to say there aren't any pump n dumps out there

speaking of pump and dump. i would advise you to read the following.

https://crypto-anonymous-2021.medium.com/the-bit-short-inside-cryptos-doomsday-machine-f8dcf78a64d3

tether is the greatest pump and dump scheme we have seen to date.

  

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192. "it's still early and Wall Street is in it."
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Crypto is not going away. It's an application on the internet like email. Value over TCP/IP via strong encryption.

You rely on encryption daily. You're using it on these boards.

It works. Very well.

Start here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1si5ZWLgy0

And then tell me it's a ponzi after you actually understand what bitcoin is.

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197. "but I thought bitcoin was supposed to take down wall street"
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now it's a good thing that Wall Street is investing?

crypto as an application is exactly like every other application on the internet, that's true.

the problem is that it's an incredibly slow application, that requires much more processing power than every other method.

this cannot be fixed, it's inherent to the design.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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211. "Good bad ugly - the Street is paying attention."
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SEC is blessing BTC ETFs so the Street can play on the blockchain(s).

Bitcoin is slow (max 4MB blocks of transactions every 10 or so minutes) and proof of work uses a lot of power - A LOT. The blocks of transactions are small and when the market is moving it's molasses. IT doesn't break and has never broken. It just get much much slower. Hence all the forks attempting to solve that but people aren't using it - your DOGE, LTC, RVN, DASH... so many. The next big iteration is Proof of Stake coin.

There are other blockchains like Ethereum Layer 2 scaling solutions Avalanche (AVAX), Fantom (FTM), Polygon (MATIC), the very very centralized Binance BNB (BNB BSC) and others can be used like "regular money". It's fast and resolves quickly. >4000 TPS on AVAX 24-7-365-no holidays. Visa is fast >25k TPS (40 seemed too high - thanks Google) but you can't use it everywhere. Crypto can be used everywhere. Even off world - theoretically.

I've been in since June 2017 - the best and worst time to get in. ICO summer, Bitconnect (which I never used because it WAS a Ponzi) and thousands of scam projects out to get ETH and vanish. I've made a lot of mistakes and some really smart calls. And I pay my taxes.

I have real money in crypto I have made from "play" money. I have to take it seriously. Just like my 401(k), "Stonks" and other investments.

I'm not planning to buy a pizza with my BTC.
I'm going to buy houses.
I'm going to pay for private school.
I'm going to travel A LOT when the world is slightly less diseased.
Large purchases.

I understand people not wanting to participate. And you don't have to. But if you do there's risk. Similar to the Street.

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mostly because I wouldn't be good at it.

people make lots of money on decisions I wouldn't advise

my problem is that everything said about practical applications for blockchain technology beyond creating something for people to invest in, just does not work.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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203. "RE: it's still early and Wall Street is in it."
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>Crypto is not going away. It's an application on the internet like email. Value over TCP/IP via strong encryption.

i don't expect it to go away either, but it will be forced to evolve and wear new hats as it fails to meet its proposed use cases. it will be a slow and painful death imo. what emerged as a deregulated digital currency, has now become a store of value to hedge against inflation. what happens when the global economy recovers? what emerged as tech revolution is now conforming to the same systems it attempted to supplant.

>You rely on encryption daily. You're using it on these boards.

i'm not worried about encryption. my resources are secure and protected, i pay $0 in transaction fees, and i have someone to call if a problem arises. what happens if you input the wrong character in your crypto transaction? who do you call if you get hacked?

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1si5ZWLgy0

i'm not even sure where to begin with Andreas, however, bitcoin failed to meet his own expectations.

>And then tell me it's a ponzi after you actually understand what bitcoin is.

i still think its a ponzi.

>Oh and welcome/welcome back to the boards.

thanks, i'm a fan of the roots and it led me to this site. interesting place with lots of discussion on things i have a lot of interest in.

  

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No one manually enters addresses. I've never done that. Validated addresses/Public keys and QR codes only.

If you sign a transaction with your private key without validating the receiver and amount - that's on you. It's like handing a stranger cash.

What makes you thing bitcoin is a ponzi scheme? Specifically? I'm curious about your answer/logic here.

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214. "RE: It touches US citizens so it needs to be in line with US law."
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there are countless stories of people losing their crypto due to marginal errors, and many who have been hacked. major exchanges have also been caught locking people out of their accounts and preventing people from selling.

>What makes you thing bitcoin is a ponzi scheme? Specifically?
>I'm curious about your answer/logic here.

ponzi:
"a form of fraud in which belief in the success of a nonexistent enterprise is fostered by the payment of quick returns to the first investors from money invested by later investors."

bitcoin has no real utility in our world. people have been searching for utility for over ten years. it's a solution for a problem that does not exist, therefore it is a nonexistent enterprise. you can't do anything with as it's purely speculative.

you only earn returns based on people who buy after you, which is why every crypto investor is also a salesman and spokesperson, working to recruit new investors in order to pump the value of its worth.

  

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225. "RE: It touches US citizens so it needs to be in line with US law."
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Marginal errors? Example? People definitely get hacked because they don't understand how to secure their private key(s) which is paramount for anyone going to self-custody/store access to coins and tokens. Or don't secure their accounts with 2FA or the exchange is hacked on the backend/server side. That can happen with any account/system not just crypto. People get locked out of accounts ALL the time - also in and out of crypto. The centralized exchanges are much better about having users secure their accounts BEFORE any purchases.

More info about that here: https://www.coinbase.com/learn

And as a personal rule I use an exchange as such - a place to exchange fiat for crypto - then store the rest via private keys stored in secure locations. They are not banks - yet. No FDIC with crypto. That's what's happening sooner rather than later.

Usually when an exchange prevents users from buying or selling is the user's local laws.Binance has everything - good, bad and ugly. They are based in Malta.
Coinbase has a decent variety of coins. They based in the US are subject to US laws.

But since it's all internet based a clever person could unload a bag they cannot unload on CB, Gemini, Kraken etc. Or via a DEX.

Bitcoin is $60k as of right now - I got in at $2700.

I'm good - I've bought vacations, computers, paid for lawyers and paid taxes via BTC. It is real.

Most of the people stacking BTC right now already have it and are continuing to acquire it due to the fact that there will only be about 21 million and traditional finance wants more tools to make money and fees. That's the main reason the Street is excited - another way to line their pockets. Speculation DEFINITELY happens. In EVERY market.

Yes - new people are getting in but they are buying fractions. They aren't moving the price up. The whales are - just like the Street. 0.01 BTC here, 0.03 BTC there. They are buying sats - satoshis - the smallest fraction of a bitcoin.

You can see some of that data here: https://bitcoinity.org/markets

If you look at this post regarding me specifically I'm pushing the ETH L2s - enhancements on Ethereum's scalability and throughput via validators and proof of stake. There's more programmable money functions on Ethereum via "smart contracts".

I'm shilling this. SPECIFICALLY: https://www.avax.network/

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229. "RE: It touches US citizens so it needs to be in line with US law."
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>Marginal errors? Example?

too many to mention. frequent some of the popular crypto subs on reddit and you'll come across many.

People definitely get hacked
>because they don't understand how to secure their private
>key(s) which is paramount for anyone going to
>self-custody/store access to coins and tokens. Or don't secure
>their accounts with 2FA or the exchange is hacked on the
>backend/server side.

there are plenty of other hacks as well, again, please refer to the subs.

That can happen with any account/system
>not just crypto. People get locked out of accounts ALL the
>time - also in and out of crypto.

the difference is, i can call someone to straighten the issue out and my money is protected.

The centralized exchanges
>are much better about having users secure their accounts
>BEFORE any purchases.
>
>More info about that here: https://www.coinbase.com/learn
>

coinbase has locked people out of their accounts, and prevented people from selling during dips. this is all very well documented.

>And as a personal rule I use an exchange as such - a place to
>exchange fiat for crypto - then store the rest via private
>keys stored in secure locations. They are not banks - yet. No
>FDIC with crypto. That's what's happening sooner rather than
>later.
>

"be your own bank! bankers hate this ol money under the mattress trick."

sincerely, crypto should address some of its security issues.

>Usually when an exchange prevents users from buying or selling
>is the user's local laws.Binance has everything - good, bad
>and ugly. They are based in Malta.
>Coinbase has a decent variety of coins. They based in the US
>are subject to US laws.
>

coinbase has not registered with the SEC, and it's deposits are not protected by the SIPC either.


>Bitcoin is $60k as of right now - I got in at $2700.
>

ponzi always favor early investors. congrats, genuinely thrilled for you. for your sake, i hope you time your market exit correctly.

>Most of the people stacking BTC right now already have it and
>are continuing to acquire it due to the fact that there will
>only be about 21 million and traditional finance wants more
>tools to make money and fees. That's the main reason the
>Street is excited - another way to line their pockets.
>Speculation DEFINITELY happens. In EVERY market.

the bubble will burst eventually. something you have not addressed is that bitcoin is a solution to a problem that doesn't exist, it's tech is garbage and energy costly. bitcoin has been looking for a problem to solve for over 10 years and has not found one.

>
>Yes - new people are getting in but they are buying fractions.
>They aren't moving the price up. The whales are - just like
>the Street. 0.01 BTC here, 0.03 BTC there. They are buying
>sats - satoshis - the smallest fraction of a bitcoin.

fractions add up, however, to your point about whales. crypto investors claim that bitcoin is decentralized, but it is clearly not when whales can swing the price at will or with a tweet. it is centralized via their hands. what do you think would happen if the whales pulled out? also, i really think you should read the following article:

https://crypto-anonymous-2021.medium.com/the-bit-short-inside-cryptos-doomsday-machine-f8dcf78a64d3

tether has been used to pump the value of bitcoin and is destined to fail.

  

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252. "lmao @ saying you are happy for him. You sound jealous fam"
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and once again people are always saying the market is a bubble and will pop.

In 2008 it actually popped..

and people went right back in and now its humming along and people once again are saying it will pop.

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my life is good and i only compete with my own sense of accomplishment. he was respectful in the way he spoke to me, and that is enough for me to wish him well.

  

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supply and demand

  

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Market Cap
24 Hour Trading Vol
Fully Diluted Valuation
Total Value Locked (TVL)
Fully Diluted Valuation / TVL Ratio
Market Cap / TVL Ratio
Circulating Supply
Total Supply
Max Supply

  

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209. "..."
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is it a ponzi scheme because somebody valued the new kyries at $1500?
or the new macbook pro at $2500?

in china they can make a generic medication, have it shipped to the
u.s. and sell it for 4x the price at which it is made. what is the
value in that? $4? $100? nothing?

as long as you're calling that a ponzi scheme too, fine.

the good/service in this case should be decentralization, tech, the
value of supply/demand. which you can't really put a price on imo. the
2008 financial crisis is what triggered this and countries that have
been pissed on are willing to buy into it.

  

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>is it a ponzi scheme because somebody valued the new kyries
>at $1500?
>or the new macbook pro at $2500?

a macbook is a real tool that you can hold in your hands. it can be used to make a living, to stay connected to the world/family, and for entertainment.

what can you use bitcoin for?

>in china they can make a generic medication, have it shipped
>to the
>u.s. and sell it for 4x the price at which it is made. what is
>the
>value in that? $4? $100? nothing?
>
>as long as you're calling that a ponzi scheme too, fine.

definitely not a ponzi.

cost of labor in china is cheaper than it is in the west, therefore, many companies outsource labor in order to increase their profit margins.

the definition of ponzi:

"a form of fraud in which belief in the success of a nonexistent enterprise is fostered by the payment of quick returns to the first investors from money invested by later investors."

bitcoin does not exist in the physical world, it has no purpose or use case, it relies on outdated and costly tech. it's highly volatile. in short, it's a pipe dream. it cannot be used to achieve any effect (medicine), and holds no intrinsic value as a product or service.

>the good/service in this case should be decentralization,
>tech, the
>value of supply/demand. which you can't really put a price on
>imo.

decentralization is a pipe dream. nations and banks will never yield control. if you're wondering whether or not centralization exists, look into the amount spent on transaction fees. furthermore, some of the biggest crypto exchanges prevented people from selling and locked many out of their accounts.

the
>2008 financial crisis is what triggered this and countries
>that have
>been pissed on are willing to buy into it.
>

the 2008 financial crisis occurred due to the collapse of the housing market. in short, too many people took loans they could not afford. poor regulation was a major catalyst.

bitcoin was started in 2009 as a method to send money over the internet using an alternative payment system, operating free from central control.

these two instances have 0 to do with each other.

  

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261. "aside from everything else...um. bitcoin isn't decentralized"
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and everyone knows it
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-10-25/bitcoin-still-concentrated-in-few-hands-study-finds

"NBER researchers were able to find the former controlled about 5.5 million Bitcoin at the end of last year while the latter controlled about 8.5 million. Additionally, the top 1,000 individual investors controlled about 3 million, and the concentration could be even greater."

“This measurement of concentration most likely is an understatement since we cannot rule out that some of the largest addresses are controlled by the same entity,” researchers Igor Makarov and Antoinette Schoar wrote.

For instance, the data did not not assign the ownership of early Bitcoins held in about 20,000 addresses to one person (Satoshi Nakamoto) and considered them as belonging to 20,000 different individuals.

The concentration of miners is even more profound, data show. NBER found that the top 10% of miners control 90% of the Bitcoin mining capacity, and just 0.1% (about 50 miners) control 50% of mining capacity.

Such a high concentration could make the Bitcoin network vulnerable to a 51% attack, where a colluding set of miners or one miner is able to take control of a majority of the network. NBER found the concentration also decreases following sharp increases in the Bitcoin price, meaning the probability the network is vulnerable to a 51% attack is higher when Bitcoin’s price drops sharply.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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fEw UnDeRsTaNd

  

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So a ponzi relies on new rubes to come in and pay the rubes on the layer above them and then bring in more rubes so they can get paid? Right?

Lemme skim the Ponzi wiki - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponzi_scheme
(Why there is no bitconnect direct link on this page is weird - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitconnect )

How does that work with bitcoin? Or ethereum? Or any other top 100 market cap crypto? How do the new rubes pay the old rubes on the blockchain or on layer 2 or via another blockchain? Via affiliate links? Some kind of side channel or fiat off ramp to pay people? How would that work?

I've mined it via GPUs and power - BTC, ETH, RVN and XMR.
I've earned it via bounties and making art for NFTs.
I've staked it on DEX - decentralized exchange(s)/CEX - centralized exchange(s).
I've used lending platforms.
I have no upline (except the IRS) and no downline (except CEX fees and tx fees).

A lot of people see crypto and especially bitcoin as a ponzi but I don't see it in the space generally - but there are exceptions of course. There are DEFINITELY some chains that are ponzis - https://coinmarketcap.com/alexandria/article/5-of-the-biggest-crypto-ponzi-schemes

Doesn't mean they all are. But anything that touches money can be subject to scams. No doubt about that.

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At this point they're just arguing to be arguing

Let's get back to the money
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yeah... LOL

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which only goes up if you get more people to turn their real money into this stuff

it's not that complicated


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237. "no, that's not how stocks work"
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this is a common knee jerk misconception that people point to when they look for ways to normalize bitcoin.

stocks do not gain value based on how many people buy them, they gain value based on the success of the company which offers real products and services that you can see, touch, feel, and hear.

if you bought into Apple on the first day the stock was available and the company did poorly, the value of your stock would not increase simply because you got in early.

in contrast to bitcoin, where buying in early offers the greatest return because the value is pumped by subsequent investors, hence, why it is a ponzi/pyramid scheme.

to date, bitcoin offers no utility, no product, and no service whereas apple offers hardware for work and play, software, and other entertainment services, and that's why its stock is valuable.

stocks are also protected and regulated rendering fraud impossible to protect investment, whereas bitcoin has no such protections.

stocks also offer you ownership of a company, and you are a holder of its share. bitcoin offers you nothing in a share of nothing.

  

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247. "RE: no, that's not how stocks work"
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>this is a common knee jerk misconception that people point to
>when they look for ways to normalize bitcoin.
>
>stocks do not gain value based on how many people buy them,
>they gain value based on the success of the company which
>offers real products and services that you can see, touch,
>feel, and hear.

stocks indeed gain value because people buy them… wtf.

what does FB offer that is real that you can touch?
>
>if you bought into Apple on the first day the stock was
>available and the company did poorly, the value of your stock
>would not increase simply because you got in early.

this makes no damn sense. Most people make money on stocks because they got
in early before it performed well.
>
>in contrast to bitcoin, where buying in early offers the
>greatest return because the value is pumped by subsequent
>investors, hence, why it is a ponzi/pyramid scheme.

no.. plenty of people bought early AND sold early
>
>to date, bitcoin offers no utility, no product, and no service
>whereas apple offers hardware for work and play, software, and
>other entertainment services, and that's why its stock is
>valuable.

So you can’t use bitcoin to purchase things online?
>
>stocks are also protected and regulated rendering fraud
>impossible to protect investment, whereas bitcoin has no such
>protections.
>
true.. its new and still the wild west in some ways. There is also a reason some countries are trying to get rid of it.. because people are moving away from traditional investing.

and lets not act like stocks aren’t manipulated a ton and pumped and dumped

>stocks also offer you ownership of a company, and you are a
>holder of its share. bitcoin offers you nothing in a share of
>nothing.
>

what do you really own? I own tesla stock but I can’t walk into a tesla factory and start calling the shots on some “I own this bitch”

Bitcoin offers you the same thing as any other stock. A chance to make or lose money.

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244. "this isn't at all how the stock market works"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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233. "This is the point I was attempting to make"
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Where is the value coming from? If this is purely speculative (which it appears to be) then yes, I can jump in and make some money IF it continues to go up, but how do I know when to jump out? How do I know if it will keep going up? How do I have even slight assurance of my investment paying off?

It all seems VERY risky.

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236. "like the stock market"
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lmao.

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241. "similar, but the comparison isn't quite right."
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Those stocks are backed by ACTUAL value. Products and services that can be evaluated and quantified. The stock market doesn't always get it right but that is where those prices come from.

Here, there is not product. So where is this value coming from?

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242. "meh.. Facebook and such are examples of users being the product"
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Most crypto has some type of utility..

and people are betting that the future of these cryptos will increase as
more and more transactions are
performed digitally.



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243. "This is an almost textbook description of speculation."
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>and people are betting that the future of these cryptos will
>increase as
>more and more transactions are
>performed digitally.
>
>
>
>


Historically speaking. Betting on speculation is a sucker's bet.

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248. "thats what the market is.. its legalized betting. "
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which is why you should diversify and never put all your eggs in one basket.

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253. "there is a difference between that and a purely speculative market."
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One is FAR more risky.

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238. "because it is risky"
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the value comes from subsequent investors who come in after you, based solely on bitcoin's reputation and nothing more. if the whales decide to pull out, the value will plummet in seconds leaving everyone to fight over the scraps. the potential for collapse with bitcoin is extremely high. it is doing well now only due to inflation and only because tether is pumping its value, however, the global economy will recover and tether will collapse. since bitcoin has no utility, its destined to fail.

  

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219. "*Cuban Bs any ponzi talk* Mononoke inu..."
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Saitama is printing

Mononoke Inu might be a waste of time...
... So I bought in the realm of quarter trillion+ coins just in case it's not.

Got some Kuma for the low.

Need to pillage the BNB world besides Elongate.

No empathy for white misery (c) BDot

"root for everybody black haters say that's crazy, wow..."

  

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221. "BNB BSC is wild AF."
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I get scam airdrops DAILY.

CAKE and APESWAP have been very good to me. No hate on the dogs. SHIB is pumping.

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224. "...."
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"i bought a trillion of them not because they're useful for literally anything but because I hope someone else will also buy in later and increase their value"

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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231. "Incorrect"
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In 2021 legit crypto has a whitepaper, dev team, community, and projects available or on the horizon.

This is one of the trackers I use avoid scams

tokensniffer.com

Carma Coin is a giveaway coin based on a smart contract platform.

Mononoke Inu are anime tokens based on a game.

Elongate is a charity token that's 10K shy of donating $3.5 million to charities around the world.

Doge is the original memecoin with a strong community and dev team.

Shiba Inu has nfts, it's own blockchain in the works, and support of two major payment platforms.

Safemoon has an a wallet app and projects in the works.

Saitama Inu is an education and wealth building platform.

This is a small list but most crypto have real uses.

No empathy for white misery (c) BDot

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240. "solutions for problems that do not exist"
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i can send and receive funds via my banking portal in seconds for $0 at the speed of light. my transfers are protected and insured. i have a customer support line i can contact if something goes wrong, and recover funds if necessary.

tell me how using Doge is going to make my life better?

  

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251. "Lmao @ I dont need it so no one else will. "
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You clearly aren’t that important.

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256. "efficient payment gateways already exist"
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the solutions offered by the aforementioned crypto products are attempting to reinvent the wheel. there is no utility in any of them.

large banks will create their own blockchains if they see value in them, and already are. if you think they are going to turn to bitcoin, you're living in a fantasy world.

  

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259. "..."
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263. "The point is to cut out the bank"
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The technology is 12 years old... if it continues to evolve to the point it offers all the benefits you listed but doesn't require using a large, centralized financial institution... why would anyone need the bank?

<-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><->
<-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><->

  

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267. "folk crack me up with the BUT MUH BANK DOES THAT"
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no shit..

and banks also used redlining

deny Black folk loans or give them high interest loans

totally fucked up the housing market in 2008

and its not like Wells Fargo didn’t just steal folks info and create Billions in fake transactions and credit card applications. Nah.. that never happened.

try to pull 15K from your bank account and see what happens. Feds be watching.



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272. "yes. the feds be watching. fdic insured"
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what happens when your crypto exchange lets your entire account walk



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275. "Coinbase makes you whole"
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Digi Unicorn crypto-exchange ignores you or goes belly up.

Choose wisely until the industry matures and exchanges are able to offload some of that risk onto insurance companies. Maybe they never get insured by the government but somebody is going to want that insurance premium on trillions of dollars in these assets. And you’ll only be able to get that insurance if you meet minimum standards for security so getting insurance is a form of regulation itself.

<-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><->
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273. "there's no tech solution for having your account hacked"
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and losing all your money


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338. "it's pretty amazing that people want to take on the responsibility"
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of being their own bank, and even using cold storage, that can be easily lost or damaged forever

it's so dumb and unnecessary

  

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246. "absolutely none of those things are useful"
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and do anything better than existing solutions

nothing whatsoever

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235. "Like the stockmarket"
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I didnt buy Tesla or Ocugen because it was useful to ME. I bought it hoping it will be useful to other people AND others will think its useful so they buy it too.

are we only supposed to invest in things we use in our daily lives?

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239. "no, not like the stock market at all, please see response #237"
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245. "I understand that you don't understand stocks"
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please I'm begging you, please, please, talk to a broker

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249. "lmao.. that’s why I’m not a day trader, lol"
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but yall in here trying to remix the stock market into some shit that cant go down or pop.

all this shit is legalized gambling





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250. "the ability to lose money is not what makes these what they are"
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it just isn't that

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234. "I need Shib to hit 10 cents in 10 years.. lol"
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254. "Good luck with that."
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258. "Not happening for at least six years"
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When it dips buy more to get rich when it hits the .000s

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262. "10 years is longer than 6 years.. lol"
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264. "or longer... there's a quadrillions of SHIB"
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out there.

In 2077 one of your ancestors can cash out.

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265. "my kids, kids, kids.. gonna be rich!!"
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268. "You spoke too soon either way"
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Especially if someone bought in earlier than today. It doesn't need to hit 10 cents. At 10 cents I'm buying PBS.

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278. "I bought in early.. but not that much"
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479. "$SHIB is still up!"
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260. "Look at AVAX if inclined to do so."
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https://www.avax.network/

Casino is open 24-7-365-No Holidays.

Can't win if you don't play.

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266. "If Cryptocurrency Was Honest: Introducing Rog Coin"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUs5y9leCyA&t=18s

  

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269. "I'm sick, but learning valuable lessons."
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I sold my Shib for Saitama.

Instead of dollar cost averaging over time, waiting for prime moments to strike, I did it in two transactions, both at a time with decent conversion return, at times when Shib was up and Saitama was down. Last night was one of those nights. Had I just waited until I woke up, I would have doubled my Saitama bag. Or, at a minimum, had I gone in with a dollar cost strategy, would have had lesser gains, though still greater than what I got.

All told, I could easily have a 15-30% bigger Saitama bag had I been a little more patient.

In both cases, I went with a very conservative shift, mostly due to FOMO for Saitama, because I got in so late on Shib. Even if Shib hits .01, what I had was roughly even with what I'll get with Saitama, if it reaches .00001.

The difference here, is that I'm betting that Saitama has a stronger chance, with a less difficult path, to reach something close to where Saitama is now, and that .00001 mark, quicker than Shib does at .01.

Shib getting to .01 looks like a very, very long way off, even now, due to the extremely high supply, and as-yet wanting burn mechanisms.

But an RH listing may well accelerate that, and I have a feeling that Shib and Saitama will both make bigger and faster gains, as we will likely see an increase in retail investors to crypto due to mainstream coverage of them.

But crazy things can happen, so who knows.

What I do know is, lesson learned. A little more patience, a little less jumping the gun at every crack of possible profit.

  

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270. "Shib is $600 per 7 million"
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So buy back into Shib and stake the coins.

Have enough Shib to burn x million buying Saitama. RH listing may eliminate another 0. FYI whales might exit in the 0.00s

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274. "I'm just looking at overall market cap with SHIB"
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I'm only in it for a short term trade so now that it's run up to being a little more valuable than DOGE, it seems like a good time to get out. As usual, I just wish I got in earlier for the 10x instead of just the 2x.

I think the speculation about being listed on RH is what's driving the price now and it will drop significantly when the news is finally announced. I believe I heard RH's most recent quarter shows that their popularity has been dealing in recent months so I don't think getting listed on RH will create the pop people are expecting. THIS is the pop.

I really don't get people's fixation on 1C for Shib. Who exactly is going to burn significant amounts of their holdings to help constrain the supply for everyone else? :0D

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279. "not sure what you are working with but why not have both?"
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I’ve FOMO’d before and with anything that is a fraction of a penny I now just throw new disposable money at it so I dont miss out or regret it.

of course I still regret any moves that doesn’t make me rich instantly.. lol

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280. "It's a nice chunk of change vs life changing money"
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I had money in both, and the plan was to build up the shib bag right away, because that's the one on the front burner, and closer to making those massive gains.

Saitama was dirt cheap, and still is, but it exploded way sooner than anticipated. It didn't do a little incremental leap. it went from .000000019 to .0000000083 in 11 days, and that buying power decreased dramatically.

So the focus has shifted, to building up the Saitama bag as big and quickly as possible.

The same money, right today, will yield night and day results for both, in the same amount of time.

If you have $100 to put in today, you'd get roughly 1,300,000 Shiba, which will be worth a little over $13,000 if it ever reaches .01, which may never happen, and may likely take a few years to get there- despite the current explosion. But we'll see.

Saitama would be worth the same 13k once it hits .00001- which is likely, and will probably do that within a year. **there are a few other hurdles, such as gas fees right now, but this will not be an issue after November 13th, or if you have gate.io until then.

If it gets to where Shib is now- which is a realistic goal IMO- it will be worth 91,000.

Shib would need to hit .07 to get to 91,000. Which will be very hard to do, and take exponentially longer to net the same return.

So the same money (provided you believe, as I do,that Saitama will follow a similar trajectory) will yield exponentially greater results from Saitama.

With what I had, and will have to put in as it climbs, Shib would have been a nice little nest egg. Saitama will allow me to buy a nice home in cash, set aside a chunk of change to cover property taxes for a few decades, pay off my wife's student loans, pay off all our debts (not much, but still) put enough away to pay for college for the kids, pay cash for two nice whips, have 7 figures in the bank, and still have plenty of Saitama left to let ride, while also diverting some of it into other, more stable/traditional investments.

Shib won't come close to that for me, not for another 5-10 years. If Saitama follows in Shib's footsteps, that little daydream I just wrote will be a reality, this time next year.

I'll still buy some Shib, and other things, as time goes on. But the immediate priority is securing enough Saitama to make that shit happen.

  

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282. "Also, Saitama has better burn mechanisms and reflections"
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Staking Shiba is A. costly, and B. doesn't really offer much of a return.

For every transaction, Saitama distributes 2% of that transaction (from the total supply) to a dead wallet, which removes it from circulation, and distributes another 2% to holders, though .55% of that goes to the dead wallet. That adds up, especially in the long term.

Put it this way: since Monday alone, I've received more Saitama as a result of those distributions, than the Shib I had converted in that second transaction to put it into Saitama.

In a month's time, I'll have received additional Saitama that will amount to nearly five times the amount of all the Shiba I had.

Which means that if/when Saitama hits where Shib is now, the amount of additional Saitama I receive over the course of the next 27 days will, all by itself, be worth roughly five times what my Shib would be worth right now.

So, as I grow that bag, and more buyers come in, those reflections will increase significantly. That's a serious advantage over Shib.

That said, It's still good to diversify, and had I been able to secure Shib far earlier than I did, I'd absolutely hold both, and I wouldn't be on OKP right now. I'll add to Shib after I reach my target Saitama amount.

  

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271. "I'm doing well, while not really understanding what's being said here."
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I'm still keeping an eye out for whatever they put in the "learn" section of the Coinbase app to see if any of this makes sense over time.

I can't remember when I got in on Cardano, but I didn't get enough to bust a nut over like I see some people are doing.

Crypto.com is saying my ROI on Shiba is 4043455.22%.

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296. "Keep learning."
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277. "WHEW. Finally managed to escape Binance "
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figured out what I needed to do since my account was old (pre Binance.us)

converted everything to BTC, moved things around.

I had a mount of HOT/holo i had to dump and now I have a small pile of XRP i need to dump. Going just about all in on BTC or ETH.

Thinking of looking into a staking/lending platform to earn some interest.

the whole landscape is...I'm not willing to spend the time to get through the noise to figure out whats hype and whats valuable.

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286. "Inbox"
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I got Celsius promo code for you.

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287. "Drop me one too, por favor"
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No empathy for white misery (c) BDot

"root for everybody black haters say that's crazy, wow..."

  

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293. "Check your inbox, player."
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283. "Coinbase #1 app in app store "
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Somethings happening

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284. "LOL"
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alt szn.

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288. "bro, don't worry about what I'm saying, just get rich "
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https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/stephaniemcneal/lularoe-millennial-women-entrepreneurship-lawsuits

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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295. "FOMO"
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Then a bear market.

That number that pumps eventually deflates.

Euphoria wears off. Smart people take profits and buy back in lower.

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474. ""somethings happening" $COIN price"
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"-187.42 (-66.82%)past year

their share price was $319 the day sev posted this.

it is now $93.

they fired 1100 people


something was happening!



www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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532. "$53.28. Brian Armstrong knew it would be like this"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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285. "ETH $4,387.20 - bounced off $4400 ATH."
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289. "Aren’t BTC and Eth no brainers to keep going up?"
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It’s fun to try to hit on something early and have it blow up, but...wouldn’t just putting a good amount of money in BTC and Eth be a safe bet to steadily make money?

  

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290. "Until it isn’t."
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They’ll likely collapse eventually so that’s gotta be part of the calculation.



  

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292. "No such thing as "safe bets" - dead that."
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You have to realize that it can go to 0. It's gambling. It's tech too - know how it works. Know how to secure it. Know how to unload it. PAY YOUR TAXES.

I am in a solid place financially. The present and future is BRIGHT.

I am WELL diversified. Money in different vehicles. I am actively doing ALL the things. I make money EVERY DAY. When I'm asleep something I have is making money. Sometimes it loses money. That's the game.

This is not safe - buyer beware. Understand what it is you're betting, place your bet and hope for the best.

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299. "I can't find anything here that I disagree with"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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291. "Who got some hoge?"
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Nm

No empathy for white misery (c) BDot

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297. "Jaspreet is flowing from the Survival Scrolls..."
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqGhaQCTxYU

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298. "Got dropped $145 for holding AAVE/stAAVE"
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Hold/stake those on AAVE? You could've had $145 of Geist token.

Can't claim it now. Sorry.

But you may have other "airdrops".

https://earni.fi/

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300. "Question for everyone: What % of your portfolio is crypto?"
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% of all your investment accounts together. 10% crypto? 50%? 75%? 90%?

  

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301. "like 5%"
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302. "65%"
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303. "whoa!! "
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307. "how do you drive your lambo with balls so big?"
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304. "<1%"
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GT: SoulGatherer

  

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305. "3%"
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306. "33.3% objectively"
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Subjectively profit wise I'm up six figures owning over 330 billion+ cryptocurrency.

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308. "I have no idea. "
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i bought bitcoin back in 2014 to buy off label internet drugs and then I just DCA'd.

all in all, the current net worth of the assets is 14,900% from where I started and I've bled off a ton through the years

I no longer buy, I just hold or shift assets around.

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309. "Time in the market is always better than timing the market"
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311. "Yup. "
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310. "15%"
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357. "100%"
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went all in after the march 2020 crash. been in and out since 2017. had no conviction in 2017, not making the same mistake this time.

"They used to call me Baby Luke....but now? The whole damn 2 Liiiive Crew."

  

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312. "I feel sick. I think I may have lost all my Saitama today. "
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I didn't want to just keep holding in my wallet, so I transferred the balance to Gate.io, since they carry it now.

I did the transaction via the qr code on the gate.io website, from my coinbase wallet, directly from the Gate website.

It does not show in my Gate.io account. It's not reflected at all. I realize that this can take time, however the transaction should at least show up as "pending". But it's not reflected at all, and this is very concerning.

I spoke to someone in the live chat, and they had never seen this before, so that wasn't very reassuring. I'm still waiting on the response from the trouble ticket.

The Etherscan shows that the transaction is a "success", and it shows see that it is located in the same wallet address as the USDT I purchased on Gate.io earlier today- but it does not reflect the additional Saitama I purchased prior to that, which is also in the Gate account. That's another curiosity.

Part of me says everything is fine and this is just one of those things that just needs some time to go through, and my inexperience and temperament just make this more nerve wracking than it needs to be. Or some sort of glitch they can fix, but there's a huge part of me that says, kiss that shit goodbye.

I'm definitely conditioned to listen to that third one more than the first two. This is going to be a long ass few days, or however long it takes to figure out what the hell happened.

  

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313. "lmao, I just worked myself into a panic. thankfully."
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314. "my best crypto investiment was getting a ledger 2-3 years ago"
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There has to be an app if you want to stake...I think. I haven't bought any new crypto in a while, but swapping coins/tokens has been fairly easy.

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316. "No need to stake Saitama. "
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It gives solid reflections as is.

I'll be switching to Saitamask after it drops.

  

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315. "Stick to metamask and use uniswap"
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Gate.io and Kucoin are headache inducing.

No empathy for white misery (c) BDot

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317. "I'm good on that. Gas fees are more headache inducing"
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than Gate.

I can't stand the busy ass Gate GUI, but it is what it is. This is temporary until Saitamask drops, or until it hits coinbase.

  

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318. "be your own bank, few understand."
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319. "I genuinely don't give a fuck what you have to say about anything "
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at all, ever.

Bye.

  

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320. "https://tinyurl.com/uvmzn3pf"
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https://tinyurl.com/uvmzn3pf

  

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323. "Why the fuck would I click some bullshit tinyurl link"
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From someone who's opinion I don't even care to consider?

  

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321. "I always run a test sum before moving large amounts. fuck the gas price...."
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322. "Yup. That was something that was killing me yesterday"
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I've made a few mistakes being too caught up in the emotion of all this.

Nothing fatal, mostly of the "could have executed this better", or "could have made more with a little more patience" variety.

But I've definitely leafned from them.

Yeatersay, I was killimg myself for not doing exactly what you juat said.. Why the fuck didn't I send $20 or aime shit first?

Anyhow, it was just some shit where tech support needed to go in and fix it.

  

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324. "going to say this again for the people in the back"
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AVAX - Avalanche.

https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/avalanche

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327. "RE: going to say this again for the people in the back"
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>AVAX - Avalanche.
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>https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/avalanche

2200% in the last year. Woah.

  

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328. "Exactly."
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And it's on coinbase.

If you're gambling in this space you need to take a SERIOUS look at AVAX.

ETH2 is trying to do things that AVAX is doing right now with it's bridging, X chain, P chain and C chain which has ETH compatibility.

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375. "Finally available on Coinbase for NY."
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I just plunkered down come ducats on this. Hope this proves to be a decent investment.

It appears to be a relatively decent time to invest as it appears AVAX is on a downward swing for today.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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325. "Rivian IPO going to be listed next week (non crypto) #ponzigang"
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Electric vehicle manufacturer backed by Amazon

ps://insideevs.com/news/544832/rivian-ipo-details-price/

First of all, the company intends to offer 155,250,000 shares (including 20,250,000 shares to the underwriters) at a price between $57.00 and $62.00 per share. As a result, the company might raise up to about $8.85-$9.63 billion (minus costs).

"This is an initial public offering of shares of Class A common stock of Rivian Automotive, Inc. We are offering 135,000,000 shares of our Class A common stock.
Prior to this offering, there has been no public market for our Class A common stock. It is currently estimated that the initial public offering price will be between $57.00 and $62.00 per share. We have applied to list our Class A common stock on the Nasdaq Global Select Market (“Nasdaq”) under the symbol “RIVN.”"

Considering up to 882,245,652 shares common stock will be outstanding after this offering (including up to 874,420,652 Class A common stock and 7,825,000 Class B common stock with 10x the voting power), the company could be valued at $50.3-$54.7 billion. IPO shares would stand for about 17.6% of the company.

The $50-$55 billion valuation sounds much more attractive for potential new investors, compared to the initially rumored $80 billion. However, it's still not far behind big automotive groups like Ford (over $70 billion market cap).

The IPO on the Nasdaq (under "RIVN" symbol) is expected as soon as next week.

Let's recall that Amazon holds about 20% stake in Rivian. According to CNBC's undisclosed sources, Ford holds roughly a 12% stake in Rivian. That would be almost a third in total.


You can see more details in the Rivian's Amendment No. 2 to Form S-1.


https://www.forbes.com/advisor/investing/rivian-ipo/


Rivian Automotive, the California electric vehicle upstart, has filed paperwork with the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) to become a publicly company. In an SEC filing on Nov. 1, Rivan disclosed it was targeting a valuation above $60 billion in its initial public offering (IPO) next week, with shares priced between $57 and $62 a piece.

This valuation would make the company only slightly less valuable than industry stalwarts General Motors (GM) and Ford Motors (F). That’s an impressive feat for a new IPO, but what’s really driving Rivian is growth like electric vehicle powerhouse Tesla, Inc (TSLA), which has seen its valuation shoot up from about $75 billion at the end of 2019 to more than $1.1 trillion today.


The promise of meteoric growth is irresistible for potential Rivian IPO investors. But keep in mind, splashy IPOs are never a sure thing. The EV space alone is littered with the wreckage of failed companies that promised to help solve climate change and make you rich along the way.

Remember Nikola Corp, which sought to become the Tesla of 18-wheelers? Founder and ex-CEO Trevor Milton was recently indicted for fraud by a federal grand jury for lying about “nearly all aspects of the business.” Rivian is no Nikola, but IPO investors should always do their homework.


Is the Rivian IPO the Next Tesla?
Tesla has rocketed to ever-higher valuations in recent years at least in part because its cars became so cool. Not only did the owner of a Tesla Model S show themself to be someone who cared about the environment (despite questions about how green Tesla really is), but the car itself looked great.

With its R1T and the R1S models, Rivian is aiming to do pickup trucks and SUVs what Tesla did with sedans. Pricing of both models starts around $70,000, and each features a base driving range of more than 300 miles on a full charge. Just as importantly, they’re being advertised in the “Built Ford Tough” mold: Glossy videos showing the vigorous vehicles vying with the elements, whether desert sand or mountain snow.

The hope is that mass affluent truck shoppers won’t be able to get enough of Rivian. Remember, the Ford F-150 is and has been (seemingly forever) the best-selling vehicle in the country. In fact, the top six automobiles in the U.S. by sales are either pickup trucks or SUVs.

In addition, Rivian will have the added benefit of, like Tesla, selling their trucks directly to consumers rather than going through a traditional dealership model. That means no bleeding of profits to any middlemen.


This has whetted investor appetite, with Rivian recently raising $2.5 billion from the likes of T. Rowe Price (TROW) and Amazon Inc. (AMZN)—the latter recently acquired a 20% stake in the company and has already ordered 100,000 units for delivery by the end of 2030.

Rivan IPO Faces a Crowded EV Market
Rivan is hardly the only auto manufacturer aiming to corner the EV truck market. And among Rivian’s toughest competitors is one of its top investors: Ford Motors.

Ford will begin selling an EV version of its famed F-Series pickups in 2022, named the F-150 Lightning. Much like the R1T, the model also has a 300-mile range but carries a price tag that’s $30,000 less than Rivian’s. It’s already garnered more than 120,000 reservations since its debut in May while Rivian is still making itself known to the general public. (For will also net around $900 million when Rivian goes public.)

“Ford’s manufacture of a full-size pickup shows how serious the company is about BEVs, as this segment is the lifeblood of the company at about 1 million units a year,” noted Morningstar analyst David Whiston after Ford’s May investor day. “CEO Jim Farley stressed that Ford will not give up its leadership in trucks as it moves to BEVs.”


Tesla’s not exactly going to roll over and forgo the most valuable slice of the auto market, either. It’s been working hard to perfect its own outlandish pickup truck model, the aptly named Cybertruck, which looks like something out of a Mad Max movie. Consumers are very interested in the Cybertruck; it has a reported reservation backlog of around 1.3 million. The cheapest option is said to be priced at about $40,000.

Throw in the likes of General Motors (with all-electric Silverados and Hummers), and Rivian will have a hard road to climb.

Should You Invest in the Rivian IPO?
Even in the rosiest Tesla-like scenario, it could be a long time before a bet on Rivian pays off.

Tesla’s share price, for instance, bounced between $30 and $75 for most of the five years leading up to 2019. Though its stock now clocks in at over $1,100 per share, skeptics about the company’s viability abounded, and short sellers targeted the stock, betting against its success. Investors who held on faced massive uncertainty whether they would end up owning one most valuable companies in the world or (relatively) worthless shares.

Recent big-name IPOs have likewise been stuck in purgatory. For instance, Coinbase (COIN) has suffered through disappointing returns since going public in April, while the S&P 500 has returned more than 20% so far this year.

Rivian will inevitably face growing pains as a public company. No one will be driving around in a Rivian truck until late 2021 or early 2022—a date that has been pushed back more than once already and may be extended again as the company sorts through the supply shock caused by pandemic lockdowns. Nor has the company built up its own charging network.


Say what you want about Tesla’s boffo market capitalization, but you actually see folks riding around in them and parking at Tesla-branded charging stations.

That means investors need to be clear-eyed, patient and willing to cut losses should Rivian fail to launch as expected. Or you could wait until Rivian becomes big enough to warrant inclusion in the S&P 500 and buy it through a passively indexed, low-cost fund.


I intend to day trade it for a quick flip

And then reinvest later down the line after the price drops

Looks to start out at 57-$62 a share

I see it running up to $200+ before the sell off

I got about 3 stacks to play around with

Get in early!

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326. "seems legit"
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I have Amazon and Tesla stock in my portfolios. Stonks are adult Pokemans.

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343. "Being listed today"
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Now its at $78 a share

Yikes


Still going in but kinda changes my initial strategy

Might have to jump out faster than I thought I would

Probably after the 1st trading halt

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329. "Stack metals"
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https://www.apmex.com/product/237305/dune-1-10-oz-gold-spice-melange-set

I like stuff like this but I RARELY buy it. But it's Dune so I may pick up a few.

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330. "bought em all."
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https://www.apmex.com/category/29872/dune

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331. "AVAX ATH."
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332. "BTC pumping."
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Casino is loud right now.

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333. "Potential Airdrops.... "POTENTIAL"...."
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1f_9c8P28dXG5K6DXlHGeTQUww5K8Ft6GgCKYZ8scjb0/htmlview?pru=AAABfSkMXtM*zssCOx6svcKHO6CSlDAnFg

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334. "let's talk taxes."
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The tax implications are insane if you hit big early.

I've only skimmed through this stuff so far, so I'm definitely missing plenty of finer points. Ideally this subject can be fleshed out in this post with better informed people than I.

Thus far, from what I've seen, taxes on long term gains aren't terrible. anything held for over a year seems relatively ok, and I'm ok with that fair share cut. Even in Cali, you can wind up with a 40% total tax between state and federal, and IMO that's not so terrible.

But short term gains aren't taxed, so much as gouged. That shit seems straight up predatory.

I've read up on creating a CRT, and that seems like the way to go, but my guess is that shit gets kneecapped within the next few years.

  

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335. "Pay them."
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I use https://bitcoin.tax/

Do not get put on the SummerJam screen.

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339. "Charitable Remainder Trust seems like a better alternative"
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as far as a short term gain goes.

Long term, I think a CRT would be a better option.

You get a million dollar cashout, you put that into a CRT and you can get 60-80K a year ( 6 to 8% a year) annuity over twenty years.

at 60K, you'd wind up with 1.2 mil over the life of it, though that income would be taxable. If you wound up with the higher end of that, at

Shit, you could take half, take that massive tax hit and still wind up with 230-250K as a lump sum, put the rest in a CRT and net a 30-4K return over that 20 year stretch, and more or less break even. You still wind up with more than a mil- and at the end of that 20 years, your charity/foundation of choice gets what's left of the trust.

  

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336. "OR"
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don't sell anything and borrow against your crypto.

Check you inbox.

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337. "Thanks. definitely something to look into when the time comes"
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Now isn't the time, but that may come soon enough.

  

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340. "can you inbox that info to me aswell?"
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pls & thx

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341. "RE: OR"
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>don't sell anything and borrow against your crypto.
>
>Check you inbox.

I’m gonna go ahead and ask for this too. At best, I’ve done like 6x in a short period of time but just in-case the time comes where I want/need to move out, I need to know what I’m doing with my taxes so I don’t Snipes myself.

  

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347. "can I get that info too?"
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n/m

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356. "Can I get that too?"
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Kinda sold a small portion of doge earlier this year...

No empathy for white misery (c) BDot

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342. "ENS airdrop. OMFG. Claim site"
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https://claim.ens.domains/


https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/ethereum-name-service

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344. "none of the credit cards I have work for crypto"
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transactions. they're all from major banks. are yall using debit cards?

I'm trying to dip a toe in, but don't want to use my actual cash.

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does it even make sense to use a cc? reading that some will charge cash advance fees to make the transaction.

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

  

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345. "Counts as a cash advance for the cards that LET you use them"
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Other just won't let the transaction pass through their payment network.

Debit cards and connections to checking accounts via services like Plaid.

So yes.

Debit cards.


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352. "got it."
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thanks.

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346. "Sold all my Loopring at $.49 a few weeks ago to buy more SHIB......"
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Loopring just hit $3.92 today! I feel like jumping out the window. SMH

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351. "SAME!!!!!!!!!!!! "
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I had sold, but was monitoring it over the weekend, at $1.

  

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350. "Opened at 106 smh"
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They got greedy

Shyt only ran to 119 before the sell off

I'll reinvest around 50

Made a few bucks but no way FOMO was going to kick in at an 106 open

Traders hit the sell button got hit at the 1st $3 dip
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355. "yeah what a letdown. was boring af."
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353. "Sooo Evergrande (Chinese Real estate developer) defaulted...."
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Scary hours.
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354. "LOL"
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359. "it appears they did not but it's been hard to fucking tell all day"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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358. "I'm deep on Layer 1 chains right now. Peace to everyone on Avax and Bsc"
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I missed avax when it was 5 dollars but I got in on $luna mad early. One of the most complex and user friendly crypto ecosystems in the game rn.

Eth is damn near unusable right now so the gate is open for the next big Layer 1 to step in. Might be Solana or Dot. I'm making bets on whoever is focused on bridging gaps between different chains and haven't cracked the top 100 yet (Glitch Protocol or Cellframe look great)

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360. "Layer 2 scaling is where the money resides."
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367. "I'd rather invest in cross chain projects with their own ecosystems."
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What will happen to these L2 projects when eth 2.0 is deployed and fixes the scaling issues?

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369. "If ETH2 happens. "
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There's not guarantee they will make it work in 2022 or 2023. Defi and NFTs live on ETH - for now. The scaling solutions ALSO have their own mainnet chains. Bridging and mainnet matter in this space.

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372. "that goalpost has been moving for so long "
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374. "To who? Im focused on where new retail is onboarding to."
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Scaling solutions are cool but dumb money isnt thinking about that. Its a boring narrative when theres new low marketcap chains hitting 100x every few months.

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371. "when do you think eth 2.0 will be deployed"
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373. "who knows. i stopped caring about eth as a network a while ago."
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great as a speculative asset but otherwise meh. it might be the Netscape of crypto years from now.

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376. "BTC is Netscape. ETH is IE."
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406. "maybe they'll fix the efficiency at some point"
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but everything I've read from the people I trust suggests they will have a monster of a time trying to fix the processing that's keeping gas fees sky high

maybe you say that isn't a problem bc of smart contracts etc etc, but I don't see it going away

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485. "I WAS WRONG ABOUT ETHEREUM"
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I didn't predict what seems to be happening

on one hand, it seems more and more likely that the ETH 2.0 update will actually happen, even if it's delayed a half dozen times

but what I completely fucking missed, is that lots of ethereum miners want to fork and stick with old ethereum so they have something to do with the rigs they spent all their money on LOL

I never guessed this particular set of outcomes



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419. "you posted this the same day someone put hijacker code on badger"
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jet did you hack badgerdao?

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361. "Spending bsc in .02 increments on bsc coins"
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Like zombie inu, baby shiba inu, catgirl and bunnygirl.


Not even serious with these bsc tokens except for elongate and safemoon adding to the war chest.

No empathy for white misery (c) BDot

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362. "LOL"
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I've been finding and dumping mainnet BNB into BSC then bridging to other networks.

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363. "MVI - Metaverse Index"
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https://app.zerion.io/invest/asset/MVI-0x72e364f2abdc788b7e918bc238b21f109cd634d7


Index contains these ETH ERC20 "metaverse" tokens - click "Underlying Tokens" to show the contained tokens:

https://www.tokensets.com/v2/set/ethereum/0x72e364f2abdc788b7e918bc238b21f109cd634d7

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364. "just a PSA: Saitama ate a zero today."
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Saitamask drops on Saturday, and it isn't just a Uniswap clone.

Saitamask is a wallet/defi exchange combo, that will use Saitama to fuel transactions instead of Ethereum- supposedly with lower gas fees.

This means a significant utility use case, resulting in a significant increase in Saitama transactions- which will in turn fuel the burn of circulating supply, and a dramatic increase in reflections.

Plus, it will allow you to stake your Saitama for additional reflections.

IMO, this is big. Check for Saitamask announcements on Saturday, there are too additional announcements apart from Saitamask.

  

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365. "I have 0 of that token."
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What blockchain is Saitama on? Is it on it's on mainnet or is it a layer 2 scaling solution atop Ethereum?

No one I converse with in this space - people who work for projects, people who have high market cap projects, people in NFTs, people in DEXes/Defi, podcasters, whales - have never mentioned this coin.

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366. "Ok."
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it's a 5 month-old ERC-20 token

I really have no comment on the rest. I'm not telling anyone what to get, what they should get.

I'm just letting people know about a token that has momentum, with catalysts on the horizon.

whether or not you have it, or your circle talks about it ot is aware of it, doesn't really change the fact that it has momentum, a product launch and a use case, with benefits of holding, and a community of it's own.

Thete are something like 13,000 crypto tokena out there. chances are, most people don't know much about most of them. I'm just letting people know this one is out there🤷🏼.

  

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368. "This space is noisy AF."
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I get that. I keep it simple - top cap coins AND coins doing something interesting.

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370. "again, ok. Nobody is trying to push Saitama on you."
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>I get that. I keep it simple - top cap coins AND coins doing
>something interesting.

I keep it simple too.

I think Saitama is extremely interesting.

A wallet/defi exchange combo that uses it's own token for gas in exchanges, provides a solid reflection just for holding, allows you to stake for additional reflections, and has excellent momentum at a time whne it's cheap enough to get enough to yield fuck you money without it ever evens sniffing a penny, all that is very interesting to me.

Particularly since it's already doing the one thing that ultimately matters here:

Making money.

Much more than anything else I'm in.

But nobody is pushing you toward Saitama.

It's totally cool that you and your buddies have no interest in it.

All I'm doing is letting people know it's out there🤷🏼
It's totally ok if nobody cares

  

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388. "what are your thoughts and feelings "
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on what just recently happened/happening with SAITAMA?
and how do you feel about it moving forward?

  

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393. "I like the token and plan. "
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-The marketing team is straight trash. They're either grossly incompetent, or they know exactly what they're doing.

I still think it's the former. They're doxxed and too front & center at this point for this to be a rug pull IMO.

I think the vegas event was a debacle that everyone involved should be ashamed of, and not just the fucking livestream. The "event" itself just looked and felt like a frat boy circle jerk, and nothing more.

I do not believe the idea that they did any of that deliberately as a pump and dump.

There was word circulating a few days prior that the Certik audit was incomplete and Saitamask wouldn't drop at the event, but I didn't see any official word from the devs, and that's a problem.

The shit that came out about Russ and his old charge isn't that big of a concern to me, and neither is the shit that happened with Willie D. I do think the ad on CMC was some fuck shit that will ultimately go unpunished.

I'm still in, but decidedly less bullish and much more cautiously optimistic. We didn't lose anything we invested, but we lost a LOT of gains.

Frankly, they need to hire a PR and marketing firm to handle all that shit from here. They need serious damage control on that front IMO.

The big test will be what happens with the Certik audit of Saitamask, and whether that two-week window- which expires in 8 days- will be met.

They can recover. But they need to get their shit together.

  

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396. "thanks for the feedback"
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377. "BTC is doing ok."
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lil' money.

lil' bit.

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378. "$100 AVAX."
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https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/avalanche

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379. "Almost bought nbc"
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https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/pornrocket/

Peep the all-time high...

No empathy for white misery (c) BDot

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380. "RE: Almost bought nbc"
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>https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/pornrocket/
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>Peep the all-time high...

What in the world happened there?

  

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383. "A 24 glitch happened that had me ready"
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To buy artist's publishing. I saw $16 quadrillion value and spent hours trying to cash out.

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384. "RE: A 24 glitch happened that had me ready"
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>To buy artist's publishing. I saw $16 quadrillion value and
>spent hours trying to cash out.

You coulda had Atlanta!

  

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381. "dafuq"
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382. "LMAO"
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wow

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385. "FOX is pumping"
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https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/fox-token/

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386. "Still pumping."
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we major.

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387. "AVAX New ATH."
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389. "Kadena "
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https://kadena.io/

This has potential

Basically a 1 stop shop

Went on a nice run last week

still has legs to grow




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392. "its cheap too"
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Its on my watch-list. Haven't bought any yet.

https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/kadena

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390. "buy CRO. "
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crypto.com coin. the Staples center renaming is just one of several partnerships including UFC and F1....its an exchange coin like BNB but with only 12b market cap. Look at the price of BNB and thats where CRO is headed...plus they offer debit cards so you always access to flip yur crypto to dollars in an instant.

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391. "I have CRO and use the app"
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decent company. They even have a debit card.

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394. "companies that sponsor stadiums and F1 teams are always"
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around for the long haul

(rich energy)

(enron field)

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395. "Enron!"
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That company was nuts. LMAO.

"smartest guys in the room"... heh

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401. "it's a good hustle, you sign a 20 year contract"
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but you won't be around when the balloon payment comes up

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478. "the price of $CRO peaked five days after this post at 93 cents"
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on the day of the post it was worth 50 cents.


it is now worth 15 cents.


no one knows who owns crypto.com


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397. "Accumulated a lot during yesterday's dip"
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BTC, ETH and AVAX.

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398. "Jaspreet continues to flow from the Survival Scrolls..."
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4-hsKTSpk8

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399. "These metaverse plays might be rug pulls"
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But just in case they aren't I've got a few like gala, smooth love potion, and LRC.

Also staking Shib, doge, and infinity dot in different places making money whilebI rest. Are 2% returns per week trash?

No empathy for white misery (c) BDot

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400. "MANA is serious"
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I got a lot 3 years ago.

I was getting ERC20s like pokemon cards.

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402. "MANA and SAND gon pop"
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that Sandbox poppin too

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403. "GALA"
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like the apple.

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404. "RE: GALA"
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>like the apple.

Like Phoenix on Gladiator…have I missed it? Is it too late!?

  

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405. "Everything is on sale."
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IF one is inclined to buy these digital pokemans.

Picked up BTC/ETH/AVAX.

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407. "*Takes flyers on cheap coins*"
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Bought some porn rocket only for them to rebrand the erc20 version of the coin but nothing changes.

Bought some smooth love potion.

Bought some infinity dot based in the polkadot network.

Trying to time the sell of doge to the fall of CRO.

No empathy for white misery (c) BDot

"root for everybody black haters say that's crazy, wow..."

  

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408. "LMAO wtf is smooth love potion?"
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LOL

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409. "RE: smooth love potion?"
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Smooth love potion is a utility token used in Axie infinity ecosystem. Axie infinity is a Pokémon inspired universe built on the Ethereum blockchain.

No empathy for white misery (c) BDot

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410. "axie infinity is a "game" that you pay $1500 to "play""
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and is only actually played by unemployed people in the Philippines

no one in America actually plays it

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411. "Gas is too damn high to me playing on Ethereum"
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ETH2? Maybe.

Black maybe.

Where are people getting all this money to be fucking around on Ethereum? 1 ETH is ~$4300.

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414. "I own six digit doge and work"
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Plus eth is available in point increments...

I call bs if you reveal you invest in bsc.

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415. "No BSC"
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ETH Layer 2 scaling and BTC. I have some Doge I mined and haven't touched.

I'm doing ok.

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412. "Luna hit new all time highs while the market was red. n/m"
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"They used to call me Baby Luke....but now? The whole damn 2 Liiiive Crew."

  

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477. "wait, did you buy Luna? it's now entirely worthless"
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I didn't think I knew anyone who bought Luna


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413. "The P of my PNL for this month is ticking up."
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Q4 is always shaky in this space. People selling their bags to get gifts and such.

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420. "I didn't expect to see all the big names drop 10+% at once"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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421. "I did."
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Because this is gambling. There are no guarantees.

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422. "AND YET YOU DODGE MY BADGERDAO QUESTIONS"
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VERY SUSPICICOUS

SOUNDS LIKE A MAN WHO JUST GOT AWAY WITH 120 MILL IN CRYPTO MY BOY

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423. "I will not confirm"
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nor deny I know what BadgerDAO is or what the bBadger token is or what yield farming is or what cryptocurrency is.

Nor can I confirm or deny what the definition of the word is is.

Nor am I aware of what DeFi projects Celsius Network uses.

Nor am I aware of what DeFi is or what it is used for.

(They got GOT and they don't know who did it. I'm in a few of these projects discords and they are SHOOK. LOL)

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424. "now they beggin for the coins back"
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I guess we'll see how that goes

and how it goes for whoever took them (jetblack)

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426. "All they can do is ask"
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There's no FDIC in this space.

One way transactions with multiple outputs.

That money is sitting on a Ledger Nano X in a safety deposit box.

That money could be anywhere. 🤖

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416. "Polygon/MATIC"
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https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/polygon

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417. "Hard to believe Cardano is sub $2.00."
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I should have sold when it hit $3.00 two or so months ago. It's barely above the price point when I initially bought in five or so months ago.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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418. "Where's the ADA DEX/Defi?"
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When that is real it will take off 🚀

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475. "did you hodl? It's now 53 cents"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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425. "Luna up 60% since my last post. :/"
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"They used to call me Baby Luke....but now? The whole damn 2 Liiiive Crew."

  

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427. "Prices keep on getting lower and lower"
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for the past month or so now. My porfolio on Coinbase has been looking very very meager as of late. I've been way to busy at work to read into what in the world is going on.

It part of the reason why prices are getting beat in the head is because traditional Wall Street interests are getting into cryptocurrencies and as traditional non-crypto markets are hurt, so are crypto markets as well?

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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429. "The markets follow each other"
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and sometimes they have an inverse relationship.

I'm doing fine. I diversified across as much as I can pay attention to.

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430. "it's because you should put more money in"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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428. "..."
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431. "The shopping spree continues"
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Bought xx million military.finance to support the troops.

Cum Star, Porn Rocket, and Nafty as nsfw plays all exchanged for billions of coins each

Shibelon as a meme coin.

Useless coin in the billions.

Meta Pets as a metaverse play. If it gets to 5 zeroes I'm wealthy.

Bought a bunch of contentos and vvs finance. Vvs finance is worth minimum $6 imo...

Babydoge and baby shiba inu as meme coins.

Shib gf looks promising but I own plenty of charity coins.

No empathy for white misery (c) BDot

"root for everybody black haters say that's crazy, wow..."

  

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432. "Anyone dabble in mining?"
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Got a modern PC with a modern GPU and can read?

https://whattomine.com/

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433. "Self-proclaimed 'Crocodile of Wall Street' snagged in big Bitcoin bust:"
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https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/self-proclaimed-crocodile-wall-street-snagged-big-bitcoin-bust-2022-02-08/

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2H5K-BUMS0

  

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434. "This one of the people y'all let make off with y'all coins"
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https://twitter.com/MoonOverlord/status/1491111919633469443

  

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435. "LMAOOOOOOOOO"
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top shelf trollin lol

shawty got big bars on this one too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jlSHGAem6g

  

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436. "I lasted until sammich"
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****************
TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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437. "So um... where we at with this?"
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438. "Markets are down because of Putin"
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Except Ethereum gas fees of course.

Stopped counting how many coins I own after hitting the 300 million quadrillion mark.

Saitama is trending downward.
Shibnobi appears to be an early Shiba Inu.
While charity coins like baby doge and sharity show promise be careful of coins like Lilly Finance for reasons you need to research.

Pmail is a secure file storage coin that looks passable on first glance.

Catcoin and bitrise are printing.

Cheems Inu is about to launch memetech, a platform for meme coins.

Zombie Inu is holding strong.

Probably got scammed with mononoke inu.

Tectonic finance is my speculative play.

Making huge gains with crypto dot com's defi wallet. As high as 149% apy on some coins.

No empathy for white misery (c) BDot

"root for everybody black haters say that's crazy, wow..."

  

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439. "Educational Resources?"
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RE: Markets are down because of Putin

So I'm guessing this might be a good time to get in then?

Are there any good educational resources for beginners? I'm trying not to charge in blindly or sink a bunch of money somewhere because some subreddit cult is really optimistic about their coin's prospects. I'm looking more for something that explains how all of this works (or is supposed to work) in general rather than advice on which coins to buy (for now) as I only have a very basic understanding.

Not against doing my own searching but if anyone knows of anything good that they've used then I would appreciate a recommendation.

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440. "Sure, why not help out."
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>RE: Markets are down because of Putin
>
>So I'm guessing this might be a good time to get in then?
>
>Are there any good educational resources for beginners? I'm
>trying not to charge in blindly or sink a bunch of money
>somewhere because some subreddit cult is really optimistic
>about their coin's prospects. I'm looking more for something
>that explains how all of this works (or is supposed to work)
>in general rather than advice on which coins to buy (for now)
>as I only have a very basic understanding.
>
>Not against doing my own searching but if anyone knows of
>anything good that they've used then I would appreciate a
>recommendation.

https://leicestercrypto.substack.com/p/cryptononics-101-how-do-i-get-into

and open a trading view account to learn patterns. Nevee buy when a crypto is up or in the green if you want to save money.

There are intensive free courses on youtube.

Shiba Inu is good, doge is worth up to .72 cents, vvs finance is good, tectonic finance is ok. <--- All on the crypto.com app.

Crypto.com's defi app had 172% apy at one point. I'm due $48,000+ off staking crypto by next year.

No empathy for white misery (c) BDot

"root for everybody black haters say that's crazy, wow..."

  

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441. "Buy, buy, buy, and buy some more."
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Market is down so it's shopping spree time!

Bitcoin and dog coins, thanks to Elom, are up.

On the cronos side:

Auto staking vvs finance to generate auto compounding vvs finance at a paltry 16.51% apy down from the 100℅ apy awhile back.

Staked vvs finance to earn tonic and single finance respectively.

Staking vvs finance to generate xvvs finance.

Staking xvvs finance to generate single finance.

On the eth side:

Gas fees are too much, hurry up eth 2.0 to save us thousands per transaction.

Shinja, Shibtoro, and Medi token are hanging on.

Spent equal amounts of money on project feenix v2 on bsc and eth platforms resulting in billions versus millions of coins.

On the bnb/bsc side:

If I have to deal with another 1,000,000,000 migration like Volt Inu I might *edit*

Five zeroes away from buying espn on 40+ different plays. Let Cheems Inu ever soar without a migration rising to 9 zeroes... Bitrise has shockingly remained strong throughout the turmoil. Spent $3 on Sanji Inu on a whim but it looks like a rugpull.

Still managing over 10 portfolios sighing. None of this is financial advice do your own research.

No empathy for white misery (c) BDot

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442. "Sam Bankman-Fried (FTX) on Yield Farming Ponzis"
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https://mobile.twitter.com/RobinWigg/status/1518592047757901824

  

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501. "he'd know!"
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443. "Fidelity 401ks will offer Bitcoin investment"
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444. "It took waaaay too long nm"
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>

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the brown figures on the walls of my apart-a-ment...

  

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492. "the ceo of the company pushing for that isn't ceo anymore"
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and it turns out he hasn't been paying his taxes for like, a while

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445. "btc abt to drop below 30k"
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everything's for sale!

nah but forreal, everything down like a mofo. crypto and stocks alike.

streets running red rn.

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446. "BUY THE DIP"
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idk

eesh

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447. "24 hour haul..."
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1.1 billion TERA
100 million vvs finance
100 million dogelon mars
3.3 Nonillion Shinja
22.7 quintillon Sharity
46 quintillion Cheems Inu

^^ That's mostly bsc side. Almost bought the dip on useless.

No empathy for white misery (c) BDot

"root for everybody black haters say that's crazy, wow..."

  

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448. "y'all good?"
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mofos posting suicide hotlines in a few forums....

the terra luna situation is especially scary.

y'all take care of yourselves out here.

still begs the op question tho-

y'all buying or shitting yourselves rn?

crashes only last for so long. ....right?

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449. "Wow, -92% overnight? Some sites report -98%"
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re: Luna

  

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455. "reading about people claiming they bought the dip at 40 or 15"
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ouch..

I got got by Ocugen stock.

Made a few stacks on a run and tried to circle back a few months later and that shit dropped like a rock.

Will Luna rebound or is that shit done

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464. "Terra Luna 2.0 plummets 70+% just hours after its launch"
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>Will Luna rebound or is that shit done


  

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450. "i dont have any serious money in them"
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i might buy the dip if its still low in a couple months.

im more down on myself for buying into coinbase and rivian lol i put more money into them than i should had and it has not paid off. still not serious money but i would like it back lol

  

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451. "shits crazy man. i pulled profits early enough. "
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im not touching anything outside of bitcoin, eth, and thorchain in the midterm.

"They used to call me Baby Luke....but now? The whole damn 2 Liiiive Crew."

  

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452. "Absolutely not"
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Go look at the Saitama situation to feel even worse about crypto.

At one point last night 10 of my portfolios were down. It was red except for binance-usd.

I'm still up huge on dogecoin despite the dips. It needs to add zeroes to go low enough for people to refill bags.

Adding another 100 million vvs finance shortly.

Auto farming and glitter mines are still paying off handsomely.

Think of this time as the crypto equivalent as that new SEC rule that tanked dark web otc stocks.

No empathy for white misery (c) BDot

"root for everybody black haters say that's crazy, wow..."

  

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454. "Saitama was a slow moving train wreck"
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>Go look at the Saitama situation to feel even worse about
>crypto.

Their subreddit was a constant cycle of hype followed by PR nightmare.

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453. "shit, my 401K and stocks are down more than my crypto "
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This is my “oh well” casino money.

but umm.. I still want to walk out with some paper, lol.

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456. "Do Kwon"
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he probably will have to elude the us government, etc. for the
rest of his life.

yellen boldly called out terrausd in her press conference, that's how deep this goes.

  

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457. "*smh* I've always thought crypto was worthless"
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Not the tech, you just have to look at the sort of people that are harking this shit to know it was always gonna end in tears

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458. "to be fair the tech is worthless too"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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459. "That's interesting. I think that's the way I always looked at it. "
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Without following crypto at all, I was just look at the people I know hawking it, the dummies I know IRL, talking like they were Warren Buffet, and I knew that 95% of it must trash and folks will eventually get wiped out.

It reminded me when I was around for the dot com crash. When all the randos were talking to me about stocks, it felt like it had run its course. In 2007 when bozos I knew were mortgage brokers living large, it felt like the end was near.

Shoot I forget the year, but when dummies from high school I didn't know like that were tracking me down on facebook trying to get me to buy into their coffee MSM, it was clearly a pyramid scheme.

Not to say some folks aren't going to fold bank, but most will get wiped out.


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460. "Folks should know by now every financial fad is...."
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461. "this a redundant point. the stock market is worthless/overvalued"
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its been artificially pumped up via government bailouts and tax cuts.

hows netflix and apple doing?

most things are bullshit, we're just numb to it.

atleast this particular bullshit is fascinating.

"They used to call me Baby Luke....but now? The whole damn 2 Liiiive Crew."

  

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463. "I tried fake day trading after a nice win with 1 stock"
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it did not go well.. lol.

so when people are yapping about this being a ponzi scheme while being totally okay with their stocks dropping like a rock its hilarious

all this shit is wild and you can’t really tout any gains or losses as something logical or based on expertise. We all out here gambling.

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465. "Don't feel too bad"
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most people never outperform the market anyway. Not unless you Nancy Pelosi or somebody like that. Way less stress throwing it in a mutual fund and letting it rock over time

  

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462. "Still in &amp; buying more"
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Gonna DCA Bitcoin & eth1&2 til I croak.

Logic remains the same

  

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466. "It's an investment "
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Little bit at a time and holla at me in 20 years

Putting it in a trust for the next generation along with other investments

Holla at that index universal life policy baby. Infinity banking. Getting it like the getters get it. Asap. That means immediately

LLC Twitter on the rise

  

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473. "buy the dip!"
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https://www.cryptoground.com/bitcoin-profit-calculator?amount=1000&day=05-30-2022

You would have made a loss of $-278.38 that is -27.84% of ROI!


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467. "Gucci Mane, Lupe Fiasco, Lewis Capaldi and others are issuing NFT ticket..."
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People rightfully shit on NFTs, but here's one of the reasons I believe in the tech. It can be more than just a bunch of cryptobros buying dumb ass apes and jpegs and shit

Granted I don't see this getting TicketMafia out of here anytime soon but this is a start.

https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/v0x482/gucci_mane_lupe_fiasco_lewis_capaldi_and_others/

  

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468. "if you believe this you're an idiot"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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469. ""it can be more than jpgs""
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no it can't.

it's a slow, inefficient database. that's all it is. it's just like every other database, except shittier.

the claims about security don't hold up.

There is no issue with fraudulent electronic ticketing systems now.

There is no auditing problem that's fixed by a blockchain and smart contracts no human being can understand.

They pitch me this news. I pass on it because a. no one gives a flying fuck. and b. because the only news they have, is that no companies other than the ones who are invested in NFTs want to use the tech, and no consumers anywhere ever interact with them unless they're attached to tons of freebies

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470. "Not a great weekend for the market..."
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471. "Celsius paused withdrawals. NFTI index -97.66% from ATH."
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472. "~8,000 Solana-based wallets attacked/drained"
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480. "This thread is hella entertaining."
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Beautiful little time capsule lol

  

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483. "if the news of a coin has spread wide enough to hit okp"
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it's probably (not always) but probably too late to expect huge potential after that.


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481. "crypto ponzi schemers getting their money heisted anonymously."
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crypto sites shutting down and keeping their money.

and they cant do shit about it because theres nothing like the fdic to insure their money.

funny how the folks screaming deregulation always end up crying for regulations to protect them when shit hits the fan.

  

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482. "treasury sanctions leading crypto mixer for money laundering for hackers..."
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https://twitter.com/ericgeller/status/1556649437539307520

over $7 bil in less than 3 years.

this shit is a cesspool.

  

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484. "just insane - totally - insane - scam written all over from top to botto..."
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the end

  

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486. "kira how you doing bro?"
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seriously.

  

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488. "Diversify your crypto nigga - Wu Financial"
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Seriously, I hope he has other vehicles for investments

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487. "largest american crypto exchange revenue fell *1/3* in q2."
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https://twitter.com/SilvermanJacob/status/1557109591896383489

theyre also being sued by shareholders for misleading about information related to their public listing.

https://twitter.com/CoinDesk/status/1557072289874776064

  

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489. "95% of Coinbase's fees were collected from retail traders"
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even though 50% of its AUM are institutional. 2nd quarter stats. As Bloomberg's Eric Balchunas argues, old ass Vanguard (via its ownership structure and low fees) is more defi ("in spirit") than the current crypto world.
https://mobile.twitter.com/TheStalwart/status/1557107083065102336

  

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531. "coinbase is getting rekt"
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even if it weren't got the SEC.

mfs just ain't trading like they were before

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490. "I think my favorite thing about coinbase, is that they have more data"
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on blockchain transactions than probably anyone?

and yet they still managed to open an NFT marketplace at the exact time the NFT market crashed


AND their NFT marketplace sucks ass and no one uses it, even the people who like trading NFTs.


it's hard to imagine someone managing to be worse than opensea, but they did it.

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491. "I'M UP "
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Shiba Inu is printing.

No comment on dogecoin.

Terrarium is a global sleeping giant.

Once the SEC stops hating on xrp it should reach $10,000 per coin.

HBAR is faster more efficient Ethereum imo.

Bandex is about to token migrate at the end of the month.

Shibtoro and Shinja tanked.

Cheems Inu is holding strong.

Eth fees dip to $0.0002 cents on September 15th allegedly.

Saitama basically rugged pulled.

No empathy for white misery (c) BDot

"root for everybody black haters say that's crazy, wow..."

  

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493. "lmao.. good luck. "
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and I mean that

I knew this was a gamble and I’m chillin and letting it do what it do, or don’t do.

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494. "FTXtinguished"
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495. "Crypto getting treated like cassette tapes and shit"
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496. "Binance not acquiring FTX"
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497. "“That’s crazy.” - Mal"
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.

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Woe unto him who in this world courts not dishonor.

  

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502. "these mfs invented money and gave it to themselves"
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510. "can't you say that about "regular" money?"
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crypto is rife with fraud and scams, but so is our traditional financial system.

  

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511. "this is my point. they created a "new" system that didn't improve on the..."
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at all

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512. "Yes, but money was invented LONG BEFORE"
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>crypto is rife with fraud and scams, but so is our
>traditional financial system.

They saw the money scam - a scam that has been around for millennia AND enforced with violence and decided "Let's do this now, with us on top."

And people fell for it, somehow.

Money IS a scam - but it is so engrained and so enforced that it's not going away.

Crypto??? Just some math equations that provide NO VALUE and have no enforcement mechanism.

You steal the U.S. gold we're sending an army. Crypto? NOPE.

Crypto's success and ultimate failure is simply based on weird libertarians and greedy investors fleecing the greedy and/or gullible.

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513. "the gold standard hasn't existed for about 50 years"
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Our entire financial system is just moving numbers between different servers.

I'm not a huge crypto proponent, but it's literally no less "real" than old school money.

  

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498. "Up 6 figures until the CPI report..."
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Bought into Cheems Inu at 16 zeroes it rose to 12. It's back down so I'll re-up. If it loses 2 more zeroes I'm ok...

Shinja performed a migration that dropped sextillion+ coins into thousands. Don't even ask what the ratio was.

Currently three lost zeroes of Shiba Inu from retirement!

No empathy for white misery (c) BDot

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https://youtu.be/A8q8PXoJwVk

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My buddy is telling me I should. I don't understand this shit much at all, its down under 17K and last year was in the 60s right? So would think would go back up in at least a few years if have the money to spare should be a good investment. Thoughts?

  

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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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504. "folks soon to start blaming the US Gov't if more FAILURES occur"
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already blaming/suing the celebs for promoting crypto

Soon, it will be the Gov't was SUPPOSED to prevent something as important as a form of CURRENCY from being (devolving into) A TOTAL DESTRUCTIVE SCAM


https://www.yahoo.com/news/congress-took-millions-ftx-now-015947797.html


Congress took millions from FTX. Now lawmakers face a crypto reckoning.

Sam Bankman-Fried, founder of the FTX cryptocurrency exchange, testifies during a Senate hearing in February. (Saul Loeb/AFP/Getty Images)
Tony Romm
Thu, November 17, 2022 at 8:59 PM
WASHINGTON - The sudden collapse of one of the world's largest cryptocurrency exchanges rattled the nation's capital this week, as lawmakers grappled with the wide-ranging fallout - and began to confront the consequences of neglecting the surging financial sector.

Only a few weeks ago, top Democrats and Republicans alike had been cashing campaign checks and working side-by-side with the vanguards of the industry, including FTX founder Sam Bankman-Fried, as they labored to craft new regulation in the frenetic, cutting-edge digital space.

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Instead, Bankman-Fried unexpectedly became a potential case study of the costs of congressional inaction. While Washington dithered, he appeared to place risky bets that incinerated his fortune, jeopardized billions of dollars in Silicon Valley capital and upended an entire ecosystem of cryptocurrency start-ups. The lawyer tapped to lead FTX in restructuring, who previously oversaw the bankruptcy of Enron, described the situation Thursday as a "complete failure of corporate controls."

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Investigators in the United States and abroad have opened probes into Bankman-Fried and his holdings. The Treasury Department has quietly placed calls to other large crypto exchanges to assess the risks of a broader contagion. And a slew of congressional committees have readied their own reviews, including a House inquiry announced Wednesday that could see Bankman-Fried testify under oath next month.

In the process, federal policymakers have been left to ask themselves a familiar, if uncomfortable question: Could they have prevented a crisis if they had paid close attention sooner?

"Over the years, the regulators . . . sorta invited them in, these crypto companies, and we've seen the damage they've caused," said Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio), the chairman of the Senate Banking Committee.

Brown said he is exploring the need for comprehensive cryptocurrency legislation, something that Congress repeatedly has proposed as the sector grew, yet time and again has failed to achieve in the face of staunch industry lobbying. In that time, a wide array of crypto firms have experienced meteoric rises - and once-unfathomable collapses - on the promise of great wealth that didn't always materialize.

Still, Brown remained bullish that Congress could rein in cryptocurrency companies that have put investors large and small at risk: "They need to be held accountable."

In some ways, the tumult around FTX tells the story of a Capitol often outpaced by the deft technology giants ostensibly under its watch.

From the burst of the dot-com bubble at the turn of the millennium to the rampant privacy mishaps at Facebook decades later, federal policymakers historically have been slow to anticipate the troubles of the digital age. Only after massive, costly scandals have lawmakers and regulators been stirred to action, sometimes with less-than-desirable results.

The nascent world of cryptocurrency - where digital tokens replace dollars, investments and payments, all without the need for traders, governments or banks - has presented perhaps the most complicated challenge to date. As an entirely new financial system has come online, Washington has been forced to choose whether to institute stringent rules on crypto or stay out of Silicon Valley's way.

The U.S. government largely has adopted the latter approach, much to the relief of crypto companies, executives and investors. That has enabled the rapid growth and soaring valuations of bitcoin, a wide array of related currencies and an entire ecosystem of firms to support them. Until recently, that included FTX, a marketplace for buying and selling tokens that boasted its own currency - an exchange that at its height was the third-largest in the world.

But the peril of that approach came into sharp relief as FTX began to unravel. Questions about its finances - and whether Bankman-Fried used FTX deposits in potentially illegal ways - prompted large investors to sell off their FTX-issued tokens, known as FTT. With nowhere to turn and losses mounting, Bankman-Fried filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy last week, setting off a cascading effect that has hammered Silicon Valley venture firms and start-ups that depended on FTX. Other crypto exchanges soon after found themselves at risk, with their own assets tied up in the fallout.

John J. Ray III, who became chief executive of FTX in bankruptcy, told a federal court Thursday that he had never seen in his career "such an absence of trustworthy financial information as occurred here." He couldn't figure out what assets the company owned; he struggled to calculate what the firm owed, and to whom; he could not even cobble together a full list of employees who had worked there.

Ray previously supervised the $23 billion dissolution of Enron and its recovery of funds for creditors, yet he suggested the FTX meltdown was in some ways worse.

"From compromised systems integrity and faulty regulatory oversight abroad, to the concentration of control in the hands of a very small group of inexperienced, unsophisticated and potentially compromised individuals, this situation is unprecedented," he wrote in the court filing.

On Capitol Hill, the fiasco quickly captured unexpectedly wide, bipartisan attention.

The shift began Tuesday, as lawmakers sorted out the repercussions of the 2022 elections. At a news conference normally reserved for Democratic leaders to lob political barbs and issue policy announcements, Rep. Hakeem Jeffries (D-N.Y.), the caucus chair, said the party had plenty of priorities in the waning weeks of the year - and "the situation related to the cryptocurrency industry will be one of them."

The House Financial Services Committee, led by Rep. Maxine Waters (D-Calif.), on Wednesday announced plans to hold a hearing on FTX, potentially featuring Bankman-Fried's testimony. "Unfortunately, this event is just one out of many examples of cryptocurrency platforms that have collapsed just this past year," lamented Waters, describing an "urgency" to act.

Across the Capitol, the fallout from FTX quickly overshadowed what normally might be a somnambulant hearing in the Senate Banking Committee about credit unions. Sen. Patrick J. Toomey (Pa.), its soon-retiring top Republican, seized on the moment to highlight "several high-profile collapses of crypto companies, including one prominent example last week" - a reference to FTX, if not explicitly by name.

Toomey previously has purchased cryptocurrency assets, his personal financial disclosures show. But he focused on the repercussions when a firm like FTX, which was based in the Bahamas, can run roughshod over the U.S. economy.

"As a general matter, the failure of Congress to pass legislation in this space and the failure of regulators to provide clear guidance has created ambiguity that has driven developers and entrepreneurs overseas," he warned. "And we've just once again seen how that ends."

In recent years, Democrats and Republicans at various turns have tried to regulate cryptocurrency, introducing a range of measures to empower federal agencies and pursue abuses, including fraudulent coin offerings and international money laundering. They've also held a number of major hearings, even grilling Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg in 2019 over his company's doomed crypto effort, known as Libra.

Law-enforcement agencies, meanwhile, have prosecuted some of the worst actors - unveiling charges in August, for example, against 11 individuals allegedly involved in a $300 million pyramid scheme. And President Biden himself recently has been engaged, signing an executive order in March that offered an early road map for how Washington might approach cryptocurrency regulation.

But the government at times has faced blowback for acting too aggressively. This March, for example, a bipartisan group of lawmakers known as the Congressional Blockchain Caucus took aim at the Securities and Exchange Commission over its attempts to "gather information from unregulated cryptocurrency and blockchain industry participants." Its signatories included Rep. Tom Emmer (R-Minn.), a caucus co-chair who has argued in the past that the SEC has misused its authorities to assert jurisdiction over cryptocurrency.

Emmer is set to serve in a key House leadership role under a Republican majority next year. Appearing at an industry conference on Wednesday, the GOP lawmaker urged Congress not to adopt a "wet blanket" of regulation in the wake of the FTX crisis.

"We need to use the stage that is Congress to promote all of you beyond the walls of the Capitol," added Emmer, whose comments were first reported by the publication CoinDesk. "People need to understand more out there that they shouldn't be afraid of this."

His office declined further comment.

Adding to the challenge, the government has faced an onslaught of lobbying from an increasingly powerful and profitable industry.

Since January alone, cryptocurrency exchanges and their advocates have spent more than $14.8 million to influence regulators and lawmakers, according to lobbying data compiled by OpenSecrets. Bankman-Fried and other FTX leaders, including Ryan Salame, the company's co-chief executive, also donated more than $70 million in the 2022 election, the analysis showed. That made them the third-largest contributor in the two-year cycle, OpenSecrets found.

"The Senate has trouble keeping up with things that lobbyists prefer the Senate not keep up with," said Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), a veteran of the 2008 financial crisis, after which she oversaw congressional efforts to keep watch over big banks. Reflecting on the reasons for congressional inaction, she added: "I have said for a very long time now that we need better regulation in this space."

On Capitol Hill, FTX and its lobbyists actively guided lawmakers in writing legislation that would govern the company and its industry rivals. A regular in Washington, Bankman-Fried personally provided input to Sens. Debbie Stabenow (D-Mich.) and John Boozman (R-Ark.), who introduced a bill this year that would shift some crypto oversight to the Commodity Futures Trading Commission.

The CFTC regulates complicated financial instruments known as derivatives, as well as futures contracts for agricultural products. The crypto industry generally prefers that agency over the SEC, which governs stock and bond markets and is perceived as more aggressive. Lawmakers and administration officials have split over which regulator should have jurisdiction, partly a reflection of the complexity in defining crypto assets - whether they are commodities or securities - under law.

As she raced to a Senate vote this week, Stabenow acknowledged she had solicited feedback from "all the stakeholders . . . including Sam" on cryptocurrency regulation. A beneficiary of more than $20,000 in campaign donations from Bankman-Fried this election, the senator added she was "extremely surprised, of course - we all were extremely surprised and disappointed" at the downfall of FTX.

But Stabenow still stood by her legislation as an antidote to the risk and abuse seemingly rife in cryptocurrency: "That's exactly why we need our legislation, so the CFTC can proactively provide regulation and transparency to consumers."

Other lawmakers, though, feared that the bill had become tainted by FTX's influence. Brown, the leader of the Senate Banking Committee, specifically acknowledged "concern" that Bankman-Fried and his industry allies had too great a hand in shaping the legislation, noting it "needs major improvement."

"I think you look at any of the legislation, any legislation written here, always the fingerprints of the big banks. In this case, the big crypto companies are always all over it," Brown continued. "That's the fight I make every day in this committee, and it's the fight we'll make on this."

As the FTX collapse rippled through the crypto world, the Biden administration urged Congress to act. On Wednesday, Treasury Secretary Janet L. Yellen issued a public warning about dangers to the economy as she called on lawmakers to fill in the remaining regulatory "gaps." She said the agency's prior reports had identified a wide range of "risks" that ultimately were "at the center of the crypto market stresses observed over the past week."

Behind the scenes, top Treasury officials have been in close contact with major cryptocurrency exchanges and other companies in recent days to assess the FTX fallout, according to an aide who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe the conversations. Some lawmakers, meanwhile, signaled they were exploring a raft of new proposals in the hopes of protecting Americans who buy, own and sell cryptocurrency.

Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.), a tech expert and leader of the tax-focused Senate Finance Committee, said in an interview that he planned to put forward a "consumer protection package" targeting cryptocurrency in the coming days. The lawmaker worked with other Democrats and Republicans last year in instituting the first-ever tax reporting requirements for digital tokens.

Sen. Mark Warner (D-Va.) said this week he had "tried to reserve judgment" given the promise of the technology. But the lawmaker, another top member of the Banking Committee, stressed "there's a reason we have rules around investor and consumer protection, safety and soundness, and the prevention of financial crime."

As she left the Tuesday banking hearing, Sen. Cynthia Lummis (R-Wyo.) similarly stressed that the FTX meltdown left Congress no choice but to legislate. Lummis, who once took to the Senate floor to "thank god for bitcoin," has put forward her own, sweeping bill that would shift more oversight to the CFTC.

"I think it's really important now that senators really focus on digital assets," she said. "In the past, it's been easy to put that on the back burner and address other issues that were more front-burner issues. This is now a front-burner issue. . . . We have put ourselves at a regulatory disadvantage."


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https://www.siliconvalley.com/2022/11/16/ftx-and-star-backers-including-brady-curry-sued-by-investor/

Warriors, Steph Curry being sued along with Tom Brady, others over FTX endorsement

Steph Curry appeared in FTX commercials and Warriors had in-arena ads and promotions

By MADELINE KENNEY | mkenney@bayareanewsgroup.com | Bay Area News Group
PUBLISHED: November 16, 2022 at 8:16 a.m. | UPDATED: November 17, 2022 at 7:06 a.m.
The Golden State Warriors and star Stephen Curry are named among a list of other high-profile backers in a class-action lawsuit filed this week following the swift collapse of cryptocurrency firm FTX, which filed for bankruptcy last week.

FTX and its former CEO, Sam Bankman-Fried, were sued over claims the platform targeted “unsophisticated investors” using celebrity endorsers including Curry, the Warriors, Tom Brady, Gisele Bundchen and Shaquille O’Neal.

“FTX’s fraudulent scheme was designed to take advantage of unsophisticated investors from across the country, who utilize mobile apps to make their investments,” Oklahoma resident Edwin Garrison said in a complaint filed Tuesday in federal court in South Florida. “As a result, American consumers collectively sustained over $11 billion dollars in damages.”

Garrison seeks to represent a class representing “thousands, if not millions, of consumers nationwide,” including all investors in the US who were enrolled in yield-bearing FTX cryptocurrency accounts, which he alleges constitute unregistered securities.


“Although many incriminating FTX emails and texts have already been destroyed, we located them,” Garrison’s legal team claimed in the 41-page complaint.

Garrison alleges that FTX used celebrity endorsers — who are also named as defendants — to funnel investors into a Ponzi scheme and to promote its unregistered securities.

The Warriors, who had shown in-arena ads for the cryptocurrency platform after launching a partnership with it earlier this year, paused all FTX-related promotional assets this week in the wake of the troubled company filing for bankruptcy. A Jordan Poole bobblehead given to the first 10,000 fans at Monday’s game against the San Antonio Spurs, which was planned in advance of last week’s news, would be the last FTX promotion in connection with the reigning champs, the team said.

A spokesperson for the Warriors said they don’t comment on pending litigation.

Curry was featured in a nationwide ad campaign for the cryptocurrency platform, saying: “I’m not an expert, and I don’t need to be. With FTX, I have everything I need to buy, sell, and trade crypto safely.”


Brady, the NFL star and San Mateo native, and his then-wife Bundchen filmed a commercial called “FTX. You In?” that showed them encouraging acquaintances to join the FTX platform, according to the complaint.

Cal, which was not named in the lawsuit, also suspended its field naming rights deal with FTX this week. The agreement, signed in August 2021 and brokered by Learfield, was set to run for 10 years and pay $17.5 million.

The case is Garrison v. Bankman-Fried, 22-cv-23753, US District Court, Southern District of Florida (Miami).

  

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506. "Some will but lack of govt regulation also helped"
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A more regulated crypto industry would’ve been more ingrained in the financial industry and a failure of this magnitude might’ve endangered companies that aren’t really in the crypto industry. There wasn’t the contagion like bad mortgages causing the biggest recession since the Great

Now the regulators have the precedent to come in really hard and, ultimately, there’ll be fewer, safer crypto products and the industry will ultimately be bigger than ever.

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509. "I wouldn't speak so soon about contamination not spreading"
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what you've seen so far is the spot of rust on the bumper

not that part when you crawl up under the car and see two parts of the frame aren't even connected to each other anymore

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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505. "NY Times: Gov't regulation stopping wild promises of profit is the end"
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https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/17/opinion/crypto-banks-regulation-ftx.html?

OPINION
PAUL KRUGMAN

Is This the End Game for Crypto?

Nov. 17, 2022


By Paul Krugman

Opinion Columnist

Recent events have made clear the need to regulate crypto, an industry that grew from nothing to a $3 trillion market capitalization a year ago, although most of that has now evaporated. But it also seems likely that the industry couldn’t survive regulation.

The story so far: Crypto reached its peak of public prominence last year, when Matt Damon’s “Fortune favors the brave” commercial — sponsored by the Singapore-based exchange Crypto.com — first aired. At the time Bitcoin, the most famous cryptocurrency, was selling for more than $60,000.

Bitcoin is now trading below $17,000. So people who bought after watching the Damon ad have lost more than 70 percent of their investment. In fact, since most people who bought Bitcoin did so when its price was high, most investors in the currency — around three-quarters of them, according to a new analysis by the Bank for International Settlements — have lost money so far.

Still, asset prices plunge all the time. People who bought stock in Meta, the company formerly known as Facebook, at its peak last year have lost around as much as investors in Bitcoin have.



So falling prices needn’t mean that cryptocurrencies are doomed. Crypto boosters surely won’t give up. According to a report from The Washington Post, many of those who subscribed to Twitter Blue Verified, Elon Musk’s disastrous (and now paused) attempt to extract money from Twitter users, were accounts promoting right-wing politics, pornography — and cryptocurrency speculation.

More telling than prices has been the collapse of crypto institutions. Most recently, FTX, one of the biggest crypto exchanges, filed for bankruptcy — and it appears that the people running it simply made off with billions of depositors’ dollars, probably using the funds in a failed effort to prop up Alameda Research, its sister firm.

The question we should ask is why institutions like FTX or Terra, the so-called stablecoin issuer that collapsed in May, were created in the first place.

After all, the 2008 white paper that started the cryptocurrency movement, published under the pseudonym Satoshi Nakamoto, was titled “Bitcoin: A Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System.” That is, the whole idea was that electronic tokens whose validity was established with techniques borrowed from cryptography would make it possible for people to bypass financial institutions. If you wanted to transfer funds to someone else, you could simply send them a number — a key — with no need to trust Citigroup or Santander to record the transaction.

It has never been clear exactly why anyone other than criminals would want to do this. Although crypto advocates often talk about the 2008 financial crisis as a motivation for their work, that crisis never impaired the payments system — the ability of individuals to transfer funds via banks. Still, the idea of a monetary system that wouldn’t require trust in financial institutions was interesting, and arguably worth trying.


After 14 years, however, cryptocurrencies have made almost no inroads into the traditional role of money. They’re too awkward to use for ordinary transactions. Their values are too unstable. In fact, relatively few investors can even be bothered to hold their crypto keys themselves — too much risk of losing them by, say, putting them on a hard drive that ends up in a landfill.

Instead, cryptocurrencies are largely purchased through exchanges like Coinbase and, yes, FTX, which take your money and hold crypto tokens in your name.

These exchanges are — wait for it — financial institutions, whose ability to attract investors depends on — wait for it again — those investors’ trust. In other words, the crypto ecosystem has basically evolved into exactly what it was supposed to replace: a system of financial intermediaries whose ability to operate depends on their perceived trustworthiness.

In which case, what is the point? Why should an industry that at best has simply reinvented conventional banking have any fundamental value?

Furthermore, trust in conventional financial institutions rests in part on validation by Uncle Sam: The government supervises banks, regulates the risks they can take and guarantees many deposits, while crypto operates largely without oversight. So investors must rely on the honesty and competence of entrepreneurs; when they offer exceptionally good deals, investors must believe not just in their competence but in their genius.

How has that been working out?

As boosters love to remind us, previous predictions of crypto’s imminent demise have proved wrong. Indeed, the fact that Bitcoin and its rivals aren’t really usable as money needn’t mean that they become worthless — you can, after all, say the same thing about gold.

But if the government finally moves in to regulate crypto firms, which would, among other things, prevent them from promising impossible-to-deliver returns, it’s hard to see what advantage these firms would have over ordinary banks. Even if the value of Bitcoin doesn’t go to zero (which it still might), there’s a strong case that the crypto industry, which loomed so large just a few months ago, is headed for oblivion.

  

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508. "Crypto Lender BlockFi Files for Bankruptcy - ny times"
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(the reader's comments are along the lines of "it was always a ponzi scheme" "it was always a way for criminals to hide transactions" - like I said, these financial fads are ALWAYS A SCHEME)

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/28/business/blockfi-bankruptcy-cryptocurrency-ftx.html#commentsContainer

Crypto Lender BlockFi Files for Bankruptcy as FTX Fallout Spreads
BlockFi was entangled with FTX, and its stability was thrust into uncertainty after FTX collapsed.


BlockFi marketed itself mainly to small investors, offering them loans in minutes without credit checks.

BlockFi marketed itself mainly to small investors, offering them loans in minutes without credit checks.Credit...Samuel Corum for The New York Times

By Lauren Hirsch, David Yaffe-Bellany and Ephrat Livni

Nov. 28, 2022

Updated 2:40 p.m. ET

BlockFi, a cryptocurrency lender that targeted ordinary investors eager for a piece of the crypto mania, filed for bankruptcy on Monday, felled by its financial ties to FTX, the embattled exchange whose recent downfall has shaken the crypto industry to its core.

Based in Jersey City, N.J., BlockFi marketed itself primarily to small investors, offering them loans backed by cryptocurrency in minutes without credit checks, as well as accounts that paid high interest on crypto deposits. As of last year, the lender claimed to have more than 450,000 retail clients.

On Monday, BlockFi, which was founded in 2017, filed for Chapter 11 protection in New Jersey. Its implosion is the latest example of an industry built on shaky foundations, with companies so intertwined that a single wobble can unleash financial chaos.

BlockFi isn’t the first crypto lender to file for bankruptcy. In July, two of its rivals, Celsius Network and Voyager Digital, collapsed within a week of each other. They were struggling to right themselves after a market panic in the spring, when the value of many high-profile cryptocurrencies plummeted. Bitcoin alone fell 20 percent in a week.


BlockFi had been reeling since then. To stabilize itself, the lender struck a deal with FTX in June, which was seen as a safety net at the time given the exchange’s credibility and dominance in the crypto industry. FTX agreed to provide the company with a $400 million credit line — essentially a loan BlockFi could tap as needed.

A Symbiotic Relationship: Mr. Bankman-Fried’s built FTX partly to help the trading business of Alameda Research, his first company. The ties between the two entities are now coming under scrutiny.
Missing Assets: Lawyers for FTX said a substantial amount of the company’s assets had either been stolen or were missing, casting doubt on the odds of recovering billions of dollars in crypto that customers lost.
A Bid for Influence: ​​In just three years, Mr. Bankman-Fried built a massive operation to woo politicians, regulators and nonprofits to support his crypto goals. Here’s how.
In announcing the funding, Zac Prince, the chief executive of BlockFi, said it would provide “access to capital that further bolsters our balance sheet.” The deal also gave FTX the option to buy BlockFi.

BlockFi subsequently borrowed $275 million from a subsidiary of FTX, according to its bankruptcy filings. That financial entanglement meant that when FTX toppled and was forced to file for bankruptcy amid revelations of corporate missteps and suspicious management, BlockFi began to struggle, too.

A few days after the exchange collapsed, BlockFi told customers that they couldn’t withdraw their deposits because it had “significant exposure” to FTX, including additional funds the company had hoped to draw on under the agreement and other assets held on the FTX platform.

In its filing on Monday, BlockFi said it had about $257 million in cash on hand to help support its business through the bankruptcy. The company said in court filings it had more than 100,000 creditors, as well as $10 billion in assets and liabilities. It also said it would reduce expenses considerably, including labor costs. It employed 850 people as of last year.


BlockFi also said it would focus on recovering all obligations owed to the company, including those by FTX. However, it warned of delays in recovering assets from FTX given the exchange’s bankruptcy.

John J. Ray III, the new chief executive of FTX, who previously led Enron during its bankruptcy, has called the corporate dysfunction at FTX “unprecedented.” Legal experts say it could take years to unwind and recover assets.

Regulators had already been scrutinizing BlockFi. In February, the Securities and Exchange Commission reached a $100 million settlement with the company’s lending arm for offering loans without registering them as securities, and for not registering itself as an investment company. The S.E.C. also found BlockFi made false and misleading statements about the level of risk in its loan portfolio and lending activity.

BlockFi still owes the S.E.C. $30 million, according to its bankruptcy filing, making the nation’s top securities cop its fourth-largest creditor. It owes $275 million to West Realm Shires, the parent company of FTX’s U.S. exchange and BlockFi’s second-largest creditor. Its top creditor, at about $729 million, is Ankura Trust Company, which specializes in managing loans for distressed companies.

“From inception, BlockFi has worked to positively shape the cryptocurrency industry and advance the sector,” said Mark Renzi of Berkeley Research Group, a financial adviser to the company. “BlockFi looks forward to a transparent process that achieves the best outcome for all clients and other stakeholders.”

BlockFi’s other bankruptcy advisers include the law firm Haynes and Boone, investment bank Moelis & Company and strategic adviser C Street Advisory Group.

  

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514. "so this dude stole Billions and gets to chill in the Bahamas?"
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Who are his people and what is his background?

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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515. "RE: so this dude stole Billions and gets to chill in the Bahamas?"
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https://finance.yahoo.com/news/ftx-founder-sam-bankman-fried-arrested-bahamas-001141970.html

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517. "white collar criminals usually aren't arrested right away"
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his arrest is pretty quick, by comparison

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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516. "I'm done, this shit is done. "
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I'm not out, I'm just letting things chill on cold storage as always.

nothing but greed, scandals, burned resources, boom-busts, empty promises and some of the most horrible user experiences created here.

crypto will become something eventually, but right now...nah. I've been in it since 2015 and with each passing cycle of interest the bar just keeps getting lowered. it's fuckin' penny stocks.

1. crypto cannot solve the banana problem. the banana problem is, how do you pay for a banana at the bodega? whats easier, going to your wallet to pull out a single bill or dealing with overly complicated digital interactions? You can still buy a banana with a ripped dollar, but aint shit moving if your micro usb cable is not playing well with your ledger.

2. the US is powerful because the world runs on greenbacks. The dollar is TRUSTED, money and banking is all trust, without trust, none of it works. There is nothing about crypto (right now) that would lead to it being trusted.

3. shit gets mad iffy when you think about the fact that a currency is maintained by a group of civilians - what happens if a government decides to use a currency, does that mean that the gov assumes control? does that mean that all other crypto is considered illegal?

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519. "the fact you can’t just take your money out half the time"
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fuck crypto

niggas was right, shit is a ponzi scheme and if you got in late you got burned

I don’t mind losing money the honest way if the shit drops but freezing accounts and holdikg funds is disgusting.

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518. "Never been in on crypto but this SBF shit is so fascinating"
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Every NYT and WaPo article is a must read for me at this point. And from this perspective it seems…

Crypto, generally, is not having a reckoning. Just because one casino fails doesn’t mean they all do

This dude is getting rolled on, hard, by his inner circle as evidenced by how relatively quickly he was taken into custody

Stocks on steroids is still my blimp-level takeaway and given the reckless, stranger than fiction ride these stable, shit and elsewise coins have been on since GameStop/AMC the timing seems about right

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521. "Crypto is like tulips, Beanie Babies, art, trading cards"
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>Stocks on steroids is still my blimp-level takeaway

At least stock shares are legal claims on a company's profits and assets.

  

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520. "... At a bit of crossroads. Replies 519 is fud"
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All you have to do to exit any crypto position off an exchange is
swap into the currency of the smart contract ecosystem. On an exchange just sell for dollars and transfer out.

I'm at a life changing position waiting for verification before executing the play. One of the currencies I own a lot of trades for 0.00006. I own enough to never work again once the transaction goes through.

Overall industry is doing fine shockingly but you gotta know where to look with a subsequent strategy in play.

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522. "SEC Charges Coinbase After Going After Binance - rollingstone"
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https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/sec-charges-cryptocurrency-exchnage-coinbase-1234764548/

TALES FROM THE CRYPTO

Crypto Crackdown: SEC Charges Coinbase After Going After Binance
The financial regulator accused Coinbase of failing to register as an exchange, broker, and clearing agency

BY JON BLISTEIN

JUNE 6, 2023

THE SECURITIES AND Exchange Commission’s crypto crackdown continued Tuesday, with the financial regulator bringing new charges against another major cryptocurrency exchange, Coinbase.

The new complaint alleges that, since at least 2019, Coinbase has served as a securities exchange, broker, and clearing agency but never registered as such with the SEC. In doing so, the SEC said in a statement that Coinbase has “deprived investors of significant protections,” including SEC inspection, record keeping requirements, and other safeguards.

One of those safeguards has to do with the SEC’s allegation that Coinbase has been functioning simultaneously as an exchange, broker, and clearing agency — three key functions “typically separated in traditional securities markets,” according to the complaint. A main reason for that separation, the SEC noted, is to “protect investors and their assets from the conflicts of interest that can arise when these functions merge.”


“We allege that Coinbase, despite being subject to the securities laws, commingled and unlawfully offered exchange, broker-dealer, and clearinghouse functions,” SEC Chair Gary Gensler said. “In other parts of our securities markets, these functions are separate. Coinbase’s alleged failures deprive investors of critical protections, including rulebooks that prevent fraud and manipulation, proper disclosure, safeguards against conflicts of interest, and routine inspection by the SEC.”

Paul Grewal, Chief Legal Officer and General Counsel for Coinbase, responded to the charges: “The SEC’s reliance on an enforcement-only approach in the absence of clear rules for the digital asset industry is hurting America’s economic competitiveness and companies like Coinbase that have a demonstrated commitment to compliance. The solution is legislation that allows fair rules for the road to be developed transparently and applied equally, not litigation. In the meantime, we’ll continue to operate our business as usual.”

The Coinbase charges notably dropped just one day after the SEC filed 13 charges against Binance, the world’s largest cryptocurrency exchange, and its founder/CEO Changpeng “CZ” Zhao. The SEC accused Binance of misleading customers and misusing funds, as well as allowing some top traders in the U.S. to keep using Binance’s unregulated international exchange.

As Rolling Stone recently reported, Zhou is arguably the dominant player in crypto and among the 60 richest people in the world. Despite his stature, he’s largely been able to keep a low profile — but that’s changed in recent months, especially after the high-profile collapse of Binance’s former main rival, FTX, and the indictment of its co-founder Sam Bankman-Fried (who’s pleaded not guilty to numerous fraud and campaign finance charges).

Maryland Sen. Chris Van Hollen told Rolling Stone, “Clearly CZ has been lurking in the shadows. It’s hard to put a finger on where (Binance is) operating, what they’re doing.” He added: “We just went through the (Silicon Valley Bank) collapse, and that was a regulated bank, at least there was some review process. In (Binance’s) case, we know nothing. This is a black box. So I worry about the potential for it to go down. A lot of people could lose a lot of money.”

  

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523. "Binance Exec Said Crypto Giant Was Unlicensed Securities Exchange"
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https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/sec-files-charges-binance-changpeng-cz-zhao-1234747350/

TALES FROM THE CRYPTO


SEC: Binance Exec Said Crypto Giant Was ‘Operating as a Fking Unlicensed Securities Exchange in the USA Bro’

The financial regulator filed 13 charges against the massive crypto exchange and its CEO, Changpeng “CZ” Zhao

BY JON BLISTEIN

JUNE 5, 2023


THE SECURITIES AND Exchange Commission ramped up the pressure on Binance, bringing 13 charges against the world’s largest cryptocurrency exchange and its founder/CEO Changpeng “CZ” Zhao.

Accusing Binance of misleading customers and misusing funds, the SEC said the company was able to control customer assets and move them around as it pleased. Binance allegedly diverted some of those funds to a separate entity Zhao owned, Sigma Chain, which the SEC said was “engaged in manipulative trading” to artificially boost the trading volume on Binance.US — a platform established in 2019 for U.S. users that was supposedly independent from Binance proper.

The complaint cites a Jan. 2021 message from the Sales Director at BAM Trading (a U.S.-based Binance affiliate) to the company’s CEOs and other employees, which listed 20 Binance.US account numbers: “fyi these are ALL sigma chain,” the Sales Director wrote. One employee reportedly responded, “woah.”

The SEC also claimed Binance and co. surreptitiously commingled billions of dollars of investor money, sending it to another third party, Merit Peak Limited — which Zhao also owned.


In a statement, SEC Chair Gary Gensler said, “Through 13 charges, we allege that Zhao and Binance entities engaged in an extensive web of deception, conflicts of interest, lack of disclosure, and calculated evasion of the law. As alleged, Zhao and Binance misled investors about their risk controls and corrupted trading volumes while actively concealing who was operating the platform, the manipulative trading of its affiliated market maker, and even where and with whom investor funds and crypto assets were custodied.”

When reached for comment, a rep for Binance pointed to a post on the company’s blog. It stated that “any allegations that user assets on the Binance.US platform have ever been at risk are simply wrong,” and that “all user assets on Binance and Binance affiliate platforms… are safe and secure.”

News of the SEC lawsuit broke just a few hours after reports emerged speculating on a possible succession plan at Binance, with Zhou reportedly looking to step back from the exchange, while also decreasing his ownership. (It appears likely, though it’s not confirmed, that Richard Teng — who was tapped to oversee Binance’s regional markets outside the U.S. — is being primed for the job.)

As Rolling Stone recently reported, Zhou is arguably the dominant player in crypto, and among the 60 richest people in the world. Despite his stature, he’s largely been able to keep a low profile — but that’s changed significantly in recent months, especially after the high-profile collapse of Binance’s former main rival, FTX, and the indictment of its co-founder Sam Bankman-Fried (who’s pleaded not guilty to numerous fraud and campaign finance charges).

As Maryland Sen. Chris Van Hollen told Rolling Stone, “Clearly CZ has been lurking in the shadows. It’s hard to put a finger on where (Binance is) operating, what they’re doing.” He added: “We just went through the (Silicon Valley Bank) collapse, and that was a regulated bank, at least there was some review process. In (Binance’s) case, we know nothing. This is a black box. So I worry about the potential for it to go down. A lot of people could lose a lot of money.”

In its new lawsuit, the SEC also targeted Binance’s alleged attempts to skirt U.S. laws, which other regulators have also expressed concern about (the Commodity Futures Trading Commission sued Binance back in March over the same issue). Back in 2019, Binance (which is based overseas) launched a U.S. arm called Binance.US; they said U.S. customers would be restricted from using the original Binance platform, and that Binance and Binance.US were independent from each other.


In the lead up to launching Binance.US, company execs appeared to recognize they were already walking on precarious legal ground by operating in the United States. According to the complaint, in Dec. 2018, Binance’s COO told a compliance officer at the company, “we are operating as a fking unlicensed securities exchange in the USA bro.”

But even after launching Binance.US, the SEC alleges that Binance was determined to keep “high-value U.S. customers” trading on the original platform. Furthermore, it was alleged that Binance.US and Binance weren’t so independent, with the SEC saying Zaho and Binance “secretly controlled” Binance.US operations behind the scenes.

The complaint says Zhao told Binance to implement a plan that would “encourage customers to circumvent Binance’s geographic blocking of U.S.-based IP addresses by using a VPN service.” Specifically, the SEC says Binance reached out to its top 22 “VIP customers,” and its Chief Marketing Officer reported back that 19 were ready to change their IP addresses and “Know Your Customer” identity information.

As for other VIP customers, Zhao reportedly told Binance senior officials in a June 2019 meeting, “We do need to let users know that they can change their KYC on Binance.com and continue to use it. But the message, the message needs to be finessed very carefully because whatever we send will be public. We cannot be held accountable for it.”

Binance appeared to touch on this issue in its blog post, asserting that it’s always “cooperated with the SEC’s investigations,” while also casting doubt on whether the agency actually has any jurisdiction.

“We will continue to cooperate with regulators and policymakers in the U.S. and across the globe because that is the right thing to do,” the post read. “And Binance remains committed to productive engagement to ensure the next generation of cryptocurrency regulation fosters innovation while implementing and ensuring important consumer protections. Because Binance is not a U.S. exchange, the SEC’s actions are limited in reach. Still, we stand with digital asset market participants in the U.S. in opposition to the SEC’s latest overreach, and we are prepared to fight it to the full extent of the law.”

Gensler, however, was blunt, stating, “They attempted to evade U.S. securities laws by announcing sham controls that they disregarded behind the scenes so that they could keep high-value U.S. customers on their platforms. The public should beware of investing any of their hard-earned assets with or on these unlawful platforms.”

This story was updated at 2:40 p.m. ET with additional details from the SEC complaint against Binance.

  

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Kira
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524. "Posts 522 and 523 fall squarely on Biden."
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His administration takes the fall for this blatant attempt to derail the crypto market.

All they needed to do was implement policy based on already existing international policy framework. This is another policy failure that falls squarely on Biden.

Evidence is found in the SEC suing an exchange every time the market gradually recovers. Fire Gensler, stop suing crypto exchanges, let the market recover, and maybe crypto holders won't vote Biden out over Gensler's conduct.

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525. "lol you still pumping this ponzi scheme?"
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you mad that the government didnt change laws/regulations to make a scam legal?

niggas with common sense told you how all of this is gonna play out.

  

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526. "Crypto is not a Ponzi scheme nor a scam"
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>you mad that the government didnt change laws/regulations to
>make a scam legal?
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>niggas with common sense told you how all of this is gonna
>play out.

It is a $1 trillion market that Biden's administration is hellbent on ruining. I'm still up five figures throughout all this despite missing out on $25 quintillion.

This is a complete failure on Biden and Democrats as a whole. Elizabeth Warren lied about fentanyl. If this market drops harshly Biden and Democrats will receive voter feedback during elections at the ballot box. All they needed to do is follow international regulation. Cryptocurrencies are not traditional assets the SEC regulates and require a different approach besides suing exchanges out of existence.


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527. "Of course it's a scam and/or ponzi of sorts"
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Ever since mining being prohibitively expensive you could only make money by selling this shit to the so called bigger fool and other than that, crypto still doesn't represent the production of anything tangible and useful.

Still shocked how many people fell for this shit.

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529. "they had niggas taking investment advice from logan paul and lil yachty."
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>Still shocked how many people fell for this shit.

  

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528. "crypto.com shut down their institutional business in the u.s."
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theyre still running the exchange for retail customers because there are still some stubborn marks out there like kira.

  

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530. "."
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c71
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533. "The Feds Are Coming for Crypto. Can It Survive? - RS swipe"
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https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/binance-coinbase-sec-investigation-crypto-1234768202/

CRYPTO TROUBLE

The Feds Are Coming for Crypto. Can It Survive?

The SEC filed lawsuits against two of the world's largest cryptocurrency exchanges — and it could mean big changes for a vast and unregulated marketplace

BY MOLLY WHITE

JUNE 10, 2023


The Securities and Exchange Commission filed suit on Monday against global giant Binance, the largest cryptocurrency exchange in the world. A second lawsuit came the very next day against Coinbase, the largest exchange based in the United States. After years of regulatory turf wars over an industry widely seen as the Wild West, the SEC has planted its flag in the cryptocurrency industry as firmly as ever, hoping that courts will support the agency’s opinion that the vast majority of crypto assets qualify as a type of carefully regulated financial instrument known as securities, and agree that the unregistered crypto platforms that have set up shop in the United States are flagrantly violating the laws that regulate them.

Both cases allege that the companies were illegally operating without registering with the SEC, and offered unregistered securities in the form of crypto staking: programs in which customers lock up their crypto tokens in exchange for rewards. Binance is additionally charged with engaging in unregistered securities offerings by issuing BNB, a token that the SEC alleges functions like a share in the Binance company, and BUSD, a stablecoin pegged to the US dollar. Unlike in the Coinbase suit, the Binance case also includes complaints aimed directly at the company’s CEO, Changpeng “CZ” Chao.


These are hardly the first lawsuits that the agency has used to take aim at the industry — in fact, the regulator has already brought more than a hundred cases against crypto platforms and their operators in the last decade. But they are a marked shift from the previous scattershot enforcement against crypto Ponzi schemers, one-off token issuers, and smaller platforms. By going after Binance and Coinbase, the SEC is kicking off the final boss fight, aiming to end the nose-thumbing by two of the largest companies in the sector that have brazenly ignored the agency’s repeated warnings. The SEC has had to adopt a more aggressive approach with crypto, says David Gerard, author of Attack of the 50 Foot Blockchain. “The SEC is used to the institutions under its purview taking them seriously. Crypto resents the very concept of regulation — they’ve been scofflaws by culture since bitcoin was founded.”

It’s tough to be the buzzkill who comes in and shuts down a party when everyone’s having a good time, and the SEC seemed to know it. In 2021, the party was raging: crypto asset prices had skyrocketed, stories of overnight millionaires plastered the pages of newspapers, and companies like Crypto.com and FTX were splashing out millions of dollars on naming rights to sports stadiums and Super Bowl ads in hopes of convincing even more people to come join the mania. Entrepreneurs, venture capitalists, and lobbyists were describing crypto as the next iteration of finance, of technology, even of society — and influential people from the tech industry to Congress were buying the story. The SEC and other agencies mostly stayed out of the way.

The catastrophic implosion of the Terra project in May 2022 was among the first in a never-ending series of failures, soon followed by the crumbling of crypto hedge fund Three Arrows Capital, a linchpin of the sector whose insolvency destabilized other major firms. Through the summer, a slew of companies limited or halted withdrawals, leaving panicked customers unable to access the crypto assets they’d stored on the platforms. The bankruptcies followed, with Voyager Digital and Celsius filing within weeks of each other, followed later by BlockFi and Genesis. A once-titan of the crypto industry, Sam Bankman-Fried, swooped in and extended loans to floundering platforms. Only a few months later, his own crypto empire toppled amid allegations of fraud as it became apparent that billions in customer funds had gone missing.

It was only then that the SEC, the Commodity Futures Trading Commission, and the Department of Justice descended to belatedly clean up the mess they really should have prevented in the first place, unpopular though it might have been. Now that things have collapsed, this is an easier sell — people are expecting the bad players in the industry to be held to account. “The political will is there at last,” says Gerard. Researcher and computer scientist Nicholas Weaver describes the shift as a reaction to the sentiment that regulatory agencies failed to prevent the FTX catastrophe: “I think with the SEC… they have long had a habit of being reactive, coming in after the manure hits the whirling blades. But FTX was a big deal: billions of US persons’ (assets) lost, and it is clear from the record that if the existing rules were enforced against FTX then most US customers would be whole already.”


Since the string of collapses began, the SEC has sued Terra and its CEO Do Kwon, and criminal authorities are seeking Kwon’s extradition from Montenegro to face fraud charges. The New York Attorney General filed fraud charges against Celsius CEO Alex Mashinsky. The SEC sued both the bankrupt Genesis and its close business partner Gemini. FTX executives face civil complaints from both the SEC and CFTC, which have been placed on hold pending federal criminal cases. And predating the new SEC lawsuit against Binance is one from the CFTC, which alleges violations of commodities laws as it also describes activities that sound like they would be more suited to a criminal indictment.


In recent months, the SEC has telegraphed that it won’t solely act reactively to crypto’s collapses, filing charges only after companies have been reduced to piles of rubble. The SEC began with actions against some of the smaller crypto companies left standing amidst the carnage of the prior year.

The outcomes of these cases are likely to shape the future of the cryptocurrency industry in the United States.

However, the Binance complaint goes considerably beyond the one against Coinbase. While Coinbase’s CEO Brian Armstrong is not named as a defendant in the case, the Binance suit includes claims leveled directly at Zhao. That case also alleges much more serious malfeasance, including rampant wash trading, commingling of funds, material misstatements to investors, and intentionally pushing U.S.-based customers to circumvent the platform’s region-based restrictions. Like in the CFTC case, some of the behavior described in the SEC case seems criminal. “I think that the CFTC complaint and the SEC complaint evidence an egregious criminal enterprise on multiple levels,” former SEC enforcement attorney John Reed Stark tells Rolling Stone. Gerard agrees, speculating that criminal charges may have already been filed: “The CFTC complaint reeks of a shadow twin sealed indictment. The SEC complaint even more so.” Zhao has recently hired white-collar defense attorneys to represent him personally. (Both Binance and Coinbase did not respond to Rolling Stone‘s request for comment.)

The difference between the two cases is underscored by the emergency motion for a temporary restraining order against Binance that was filed by the SEC on Tuesday, which seeks to freeze assets belonging to Binance’s U.S. entities. A temporary restraining order is “the most powerful tool the SEC has,” says Stark. “It’s used sparingly,” reserved only for “really bad situation(s)” where substantial assets are deemed to be at serious risk. No such motion was filed in the Coinbase case, which also does not allege fraud or mishandling of customer funds.

The outcomes of these cases are likely to shape the future of the cryptocurrency industry in the United States, but the decisions probably aren’t coming anytime soon. For months, Coinbase has been posturing about its willingness to fight to the death against what they view as an increasingly aggressive yet opaque approach to the industry by the SEC, which Coinbase CEO Armstrong alleges is “harming America”. Binance has likewise promised to fight the SEC in court. Other legal battles between crypto firms and the SEC, such as the one involving the crypto token issuer Ripple, have dragged on for years. The industry will continue to be in limbo until then, with other unregistered platforms facing tough decisions over whether to delist the many prominent cryptocurrencies newly described by the SEC as securities, or whether to shut down crypto staking programs similar to those mentioned in the lawsuits. Meanwhile, traders have pulled more than $1.4 billion in assets out of Binance and more than $1.2 billion out of Coinbase.


To be sure, the SEC is taking on some risk here. Courts could embrace the crypto industry’s position, that the agency has overstepped by trying to enforce laws that don’t apply because they simply weren’t written to account for the crypto industry’s novel financial instruments, in a smackdown that would completely undermine the agency’s efforts to regulate the sector. But if the SEC emerges victorious — and their track record to date has been very strong — things will begin to look very different for crypto traders in the country. The Wild West era will draw to a close.

  

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534. "People who love Richard Heart are def in a cult lol"
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535. "I recently read an article on the amount of deaths in crypto"
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they believe most are people faking deaths to run away with the money

but basically all this shit is a scam.

feel bad for those who still believe in it.

kudos to anyone who got in and out early.

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536. "Wall Street launches crypto exchange, loads apply for Bitcoin ETFs"
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EDX Markets, a new crypto exchange backed by major Wall Street players Charles Schwab, Citadel Securities, and Fidelity Digital Assets, launched last week for institutional investors.

Fidelity just joined BlackRock and several others in applying to launch a spot Bitcoin ETF.

So we have the SEC suing major exchanges for offering what they call securities (essentially every non-BTC/ETH crypto according to them) without a license.

Meanwhile Wall Street and big financial institutions are opening exchanges and trying to launch ETFs.

The government seems to want to destroy non-BTC crypto and traditional finance wants to load up on BTC exposure.

If these ETFs are approved, BTC becoming easier to invest in helps with adoption and has a major impact on the next bull run.

Buy Bitcoin.
Avoid shitcoins.

  

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537. "What a fuucking scam"
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BTC are worthless until they can CON.. I mean.. instill CONfidence in you for them.

ETF based on coins that a small group of shit heels invented (and own the vast majority of) doesn't seem like anything other than a scam.

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538. "Fidelity is re-filing. Fid, Ark, Van Eck, WisdomTree, Grayscale et al"
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have filed for a spot ETF before, respectively, since as early as 2019 and been denied. All before BlackRock. But since BR finally filed with a Surveillance Sharing Agreement between CBOE and a crypto exchange, companies are re-filing or filing because they think BR is in the know and think an SSA is the key for approval. Ark re-filed and actually is first in line to be approved even before BR.

  

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540. "Looking like it'll be denied again"
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SEC Says Spot Bitcoin ETF Filings Are Inadequate

https://www.wsj.com/articles/sec-says-spot-bitcoin-etf-filings-are-inadequate-390336e8

  

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539. "crypto is important because it enables the unbanked!"
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also: Look at all the big banks getting into crypto! It means crypto is important!!!!!!!

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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541. "y'all good?"
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542. "This is one helluva timeline in Crypto finances"
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Started out like a dreamy whirlwind love affair and ending like Set It Off but with a hole in the bag while boarding the bus.

  

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543. "SBF convicted 1 year to the day after the coindesk article dropped"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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545. "Jury spent more time ordering dinner than deliberating"
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Hopefully he doesn't decide to unalive himself in lieu of spending the rest of his life in prison.

  

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546. "turns out that when the feds make a case on you"
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it's fuckin made

yeah bro was chilling in the Bahamas for a few weeks...while they were busy flipping all of his co conspirators

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544. "Very good"
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547. "Still up high five figures"
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A millionaire in 100 different assets of any of them drop 2-5 zeroes.

Don't know about y'all but I'm great.

No empathy for white misery (c) BDot

"root for everybody black haters say that's crazy, wow..."

  

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549. "Bitcoin Rodney - friend of Rick Ross, Jamie Foxx - under arrest"
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https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/bitcoin-rodney-arrested-crypto-1234942231/


MONEY MOVES


‘Bitcoin Rodney’ Pushed Crypto With Jamie Foxx and Rick Ross. Now He’s Under Arrest


With celebrity endorsements to spare, the influencer promised he could easily make you a millionaire — and promoted an alleged pyramid scheme

BY MILES KLEE

JANUARY 9, 2024




THIS ARTICLE WAS produced in collaboration with Court Watch, an independent outlet that unearths overlooked court records.

The dream of making a quick and easy fortune in cryptocurrency took yet another hit on Friday with the arrest of Rodney Burton, a.k.a. “Bitcoin Rodney,” a relentless promoter who sold himself as a high-tech financial guru and was often seen out with celebrity pals including Jamie Foxx, Rick Ross, Marlon Wayans, and Tiffany Haddish.

Burton, whose 2021 “Reinvent Yourself With Crypto” event in Miami also included appearances by singer Akon, FUBU founder and Shark Tank regular Daymond John, and convicted fraudster Jordan Belfort (whose memoir The Wolf of Wall Street inspired the Martin Scorsese film), was taken into custody in Florida and is awaiting transfer to Maryland, where he’s being charged. The criminal complaint that was filed rests on an affidavit by a special agent of the IRS who found probable cause to believe that one of the crypto operations that Burton was involved in was an “unlicensed money transmitting business.” Burton is accused, in short, of illegal transfer of currency — but the broader accusations in the legal filing paint a picture of a pyramid scheme operated by several people, including Burton. (Burton did not respond to requests for comment through social media or his public defender.)



The statement describes Burton’s role in advising people to invest in HyperVerse (previously called “Hyperfund”), a purported decentralized finance crypto investment platform established in 2020, alongside two other HyperVerse promoters unnamed in the document (“Individual 1” and “Individual 2”). The IRS special agent alleges that this entity made “fraudulent promotional presentations to investors and potential investors.” Touted as the “world’s most sustainable passive rewards program,” HyperVerse sold investor “memberships” that promised double or triple returns — up to one-percent daily “rewards,” paid for in part using “large-scale crypto mining operations.” But it had no mining capability, and, according to the charging document, the investors “were paid with funds collected from more recent investors.” The fund collapsed in mid-2023, costing consumers approximately $1.3 billion. (Last week, a Guardian investigation found that its CEO, Steven Reece Lewis, “does not appear to exist,” though HyperVerse’s founders gave no comment for the story.)


Neither Burton nor the Southern District of Florida Federal Public Defender’s Office, which is currently representing him, responded to requests for comment from Rolling Stone, and no others have been arrested in connection with HyperVerse to date. The fund was created by Zijing “Ryan” Xu of China and Xue “Sam” Lee of Australia, two other crypto entrepreneurs whose Blockchain Global crypto exchange platform ACX.io imploded in 2019, with creditors still owed around $50 million. Blockchain Global itself collapsed in 2021 and entered voluntary administration.

HyperVerse was run as what various financial regulators around the world warned was a potential pyramid scheme, and that’s what seems to be presented in the charging documents: members invested money that was converted into “HyperUnits,” or HU, that could then be withdrawn and converted into Tether, a so-called “stablecoin” that was established in 2014, whose value is pegged to the U.S. dollar and can easily be converted to fiat currency. Investors were also encouraged to reinvest what they made and refer new customers for commission fees. According to the charging statement, Burton, on at least several occasions, paid “rewards” to investors out of his own HyperVerse account.


According to the IRS investigator who wrote Burton’s charging document, “beginning in at least July 2021 HyperFund began blocking investors’ ability to convert HU to cryptocurrency.” Yet Burton continued to accept checks and wire transfers from customers through early 2022, the affidavit states, and took in $5,833,562 in these transactions, even though HU was by then effectively worthless. Burton, the filing says, also instructed Individual 1 to ask customers for wire transfers or checks with the inaccurate memo line “Consultation/Training” to avoid scrutiny from banks. Furthermore, the entities he used to conduct these transactions failed to register a money transmitting business with the Financial Crimes Enforcement Network as required by the U.S. Treasury, per the IRS agent.



After Burton’s initial court appearance, the government moved to reseal his criminal complaint, possibly indicating that other defendants are to be charged in connection with HyperVerse.

Burton has cut a flashy figure in the crypto world, wearing crypto-themed clothes and jewelry, buying designer cars with Bitcoin, throwing yacht parties, apparently commissioning his own rap anthem, and earning shoutouts for his business acumen by the likes of Rick Ross, who in 2022 said Burton was “getting real money” compared to “fake-rich” crypto hustlers. This high life has extended to hobnobbing with other celebrities, including Jamie Foxx and music mogul Breyon Precott. In recent years, the likes of Lindsay Lohan, Jake Paul, Tom Brady, Jimmy Fallon, Soulja Boy, Lil Yachty, Kim Kardashian, and Floyd Mayweather have all faced lawsuits and SEC charges for their roles in promoting crypto, in some cases allegedly failing to disclose that they were paid to do so. Most of those suits have already been settled, while Kardashian paid an SEC fine of about $1.3 million in 2022. Burton’s most famous supporters, however, do not appear to have directly endorsed his HyperVerse venture.

In addition to his consulting services, investment tutorials, and event appearances, Burton’s website also advertises an AI-powered crypto trading platform. Yet another link plugged on Burton’s Instagram profile redirects to a cannabis lifestyle site called Cannaglobe. Burton appears to be the name behind the Cannaglobe product “Ryz,” a “sexual enhancer breath refresher” that costs $99.99.


In a November 2021 interview on the popular morning radio show The Breakfast Club, Burton said he’d discovered crypto investing in 2017 and had been passionate about it ever since. Asked by host Angela Yee why people might suspect a crypto opportunity of being a “scam,” Burton replied that not every investment he’s made has been “on the up and up.”

“Some of these deals I’ve made money, some of these deals I failed miserably,” he said. “It’s the reason I’m doing so well now, it’s because I know exactly what to look for.” He also acknowledged that USI Tech, one of the first crypto platforms he promoted, was a Ponzi scheme — it collapsed in April 2018, with tens of millions of dollars vanished — claiming that he didn’t recognize it as such because he was still new to the field.

“I always tell everyone, make sure you have a coach, instructions, direction before you go there and do it, because you can lose everything you made, or earned in life, in crypto,” Burton said.

  

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550. "Bitcoin Rodney sounds like a name you can believe in"
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I fell for the hype years ago

when I see people on FB still asking if its a good time for crypto..

anyone on here win? I mean, actually get to take out serious profits?

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551. "Yes"
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>anyone on here win? I mean, actually get to take out serious
>profits?

If you're going to invest, DCA into Bitcoin and avoid shitcoins and memecoins trying to chase a buck. Even if you started DCAing into Bitcoin the day it hit its all-time high you'd be up.

99.9 percent of it is a waste. It's a speculative risk with no actual need at best, an outright scam at worst.

Bitcoin is the 0.1%.

Is there money to be made with the rest? Absolutely. But you're not investing, you're gambling. And like I said, as far as the moonshots go (and there absolutely will be more this cycle, PEPE had it's moment last year, BONK was ripping last month) by the time you hear about them you'll already be too late.

  

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552. "BTC ETF seems like it's happening."
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Selling it all at 100k.

Moon. Lambo.

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553. "you dumbass boomers still fading crypto?"
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btc etfs puttin up numbers
btc pushin up close to all time highs ($69k) already at $62k
bullrun is here.

eth etf comin soon

and so on.

you still fading digital gold and e z money szn?

  

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554. "Nigeria"
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Just to take some attention away from the excitement "omg number go up" and the flavor-of-the-month shitcoin, let's have a look at what's going on in Nigeria.

Last year Nigeria de-pegged the Naira and (surprise surprise) the currency collapsed. Over the last year the currency has fallen from ~0.0022/USD to ~0.00063/USD (-71%).

So what is a citizen to do? Find some fucking USD of course. But what happens when the government restricts access to USD? Crypto, mainly stablecoins.

Hey, there's our scapegoat! Nigeria is blaming crypto on the collapse of their currency. They've gone as far as arresting two Binance employees and trying to get them to release data on their top Nigerian users.

https://www.ft.com/content/9c1394de-0492-4597-b075-cbf19e0b6e83

Get yourself some bitcoin. Just because the use cases don't seem to apply to you now, they eventually will.

  

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555. "Cashed out most of my BTC at 70k."
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We good here.

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557. "Glad to see someone winning at this shit. "
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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558. "solid thousandaire"
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No complaints.

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560. "yea I got out before the collapse thank God"
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>We good here.


Made a smooth 200k but a lot of ppl I know lost their shirts

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556. "AVAX is pumping to $100."
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Then I'm stepping out of that. Selling most of my alts. Pay the taxes on em and enhance my QOL.

Quality of Life.

Mo money.

Better quality of life.

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559. "Stacker.News - Lightning Network "Hacker News" clone"
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aka get paid to post. Lightning Network uses payment channels atop the live BTC network. No fees. Active posters get paid in satoshis. Get a Lighting Network wallet like breez, phoenix or muun. Or cash out to your Cash App. Cash App has had Lightning Network support for 2 years or so.

Link: https://stacker.news/

My referral link: https://stacker.news/r/godlikeXi

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