We have seen this before and have always felt that it was Alt-right's biggest success in owning the libs to have us seeking out secret code in a gesture that Ball Players, Nupes and generally everybody who has done an OK sign at one time or another in their life.
So he eventually came out and disavowed White Supremacy.
Like nobody does three as a bolo tie. It’s almost always that circle with the index and thumb while the other three fingers curl towards your face This man out here given himself carpal tunnel in the age of ironic nazis and for whatever reason y’all wanna argue for his benefit of the doubt.
It sure looks like he knows how to use his fingers correctly for 1 and 2 but suddenly three is wild alt righty.
6. "RE: Some of y’all are way too trusting in white innocence " In response to Reply # 5
Not having heard anything about this thing before, that looks very strange and is worth discussion
>Gesture looks wild weird even given the context > >Here’s the image: > >https://cdn01.dailycaller.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Kelly_Donohue-e1619805106630.jpg > > >Like nobody does three as a bolo tie. It’s almost always >that circle with the index and thumb while the other three >fingers curl towards your face >This man out here given himself carpal tunnel in the age of >ironic nazis and for whatever reason y’all wanna argue for >his benefit of the doubt. > >It sure looks like he knows how to use his fingers correctly >for 1 and 2 but suddenly three is wild alt righty. > >https://twitter.com/kokomosal/status/1388376379096453121?s=21 >
7. "I don’t even think it’s worth all that discussion " In response to Reply # 6
Dude claimed that’s not what he was flagging and deleted the Facebook post Only he knows his motivation, personally, I don’t trust him, but that’s a me issue. But I think it’s fair to acknowledge that people were offended by the optics and wanted clarification. I don’t think that’s a bridge too far.
------ “There is no fate that cannot be surmounted by scorn.” -Albert Camus
9. "So does that work. His plan was to win the first two matches and " In response to Reply # 5
throw up the 1 and 2 so that when he wins for the 3rd time he can send a hidden racist symbol that, BTW, was in heavy use by everyone before the racist claimed it?
********** "Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson
10. "How does what work? White stupidity and opportunism?" In response to Reply # 9
You’re doing all the leg work for that man. I’ve seen people work on getting more baseball strike outs just so they could do funny shit with three K’s and go unnoticed.
I’m sure his goal was to make money off trivia. Everything else is a bonus. I look forward to upping this post when he’s on Fox News or Twitter within a year crying about cancel culture during his book deal tour.
------ “There is no fate that cannot be surmounted by scorn.” -Albert Camus
blkprinceMD05 Member since Nov 29th 2004 41323 posts
Sun May-02-21 05:53 PM
12. "If he got to three, he wasn’t gonna let the opportunity pass. " In response to Reply # 9
He got to three wins and didn’t. The ground work was laid for an “excuse” by doing the one finger, 1st win, two fingers, second win gestures.
We can’t say for sure either way but I think it’s naive extremely hopeful to say this wasn’t the racist gesture that some think it is just becuz he did the one and the two fingers....if the three fingers had been the index, middle and ring and not pressed up against his chest like that, I would say it wasn’t intentional either. But That shit looks suspect
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14. "lol yeah, i mean its not impossible" In response to Reply # 9
but the fact that nearly 500 former contestants signed on to this based on something that looks slightly odd, is hella extra. And counter productive for reasons you already mentioned.
i mean maybe we'll find out this guy is in fact a maga dirtbag, but as of now this shouldn't be any kind of story
17. "I don't think I could care less what he is" In response to Reply # 16
Dude aint Ken Jennings and this will be the highest visibility thing he does in his life.
What I do find strange is the folks in here, on here that are acting like the whole purpose of dog whistle racial gestures is not to spark these kinds of reactions and I question why.
If there's anything I do care about is that white people should have to be just as cautious about their appearances as society forces Black people to be.
------ “There is no fate that cannot be surmounted by scorn.” -Albert Camus
>What I do find strange is the folks in here, on here that are >acting like the whole purpose of dog whistle racial gestures >is not to spark these kinds of reactions and I question why.
I don't think anyone is really arguing that. more that there isn't any actual evidence that this *is* a dog whistle. and by feeding into it, it turns into a crying wolf situation when someone who intentionally flashes that sign gets lumped in.
Plus it's just a shitty thing to be accused of. Again it could turn out these accusations are warranted but at this point, i don't see him as any more a nazi than the contestants who signed that letter.
>If there's anything I do care about is that white people >should have to be just as cautious about their appearances as >society forces Black people to be.
28. "couldn't agree more" In response to Reply # 17
>If there's anything I do care about is that white people >should have to be just as cautious about their appearances as >society forces Black people to be.
Jeopardy gives you a *lot* of rules about what you can and can not do during the game, so I've always thought this was a bit of a blind spot (which I absolutely took advantage of, clearly). But some of those rules are tied to concerns about the appearance of supporting white supremacy: you're not allowed to wager some obvious amounts like $69 or $666, but you're also not allowed to wager $14, $88, or $1488 because of they're all associated with the fourteen words slogan.
Do I think he's a white supremecist? Nah. Probably not. Do I think he's a troll that took advantage of his national platform and 5 seconds of fame? Absolutely. My gut feeling is that he thought he was being slick and didn't expect the massive blowback.
FWIW I was actually surprised to see how much the former Jeopardy contestant community rallied together around this. It's a surprisingly super progressive community that's centered around inclusiveness (this same group was one of the leads that pushed so hard for LeVar Burton to host, hopefully permanently), so this all definitely makes sense in that context.
At the end of the day, I'm sure this means the production team is going to crack down super hard on this going forward. So I guess I'm just glad I got a chance to put on for my city while I still had the opportunity.
Just my 2c
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legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79586 posts
Mon May-03-21 09:56 AM
22. "75 mill voted for Trump.. " In response to Reply # 21
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
27. "the invention of dual symbolism in our modern times is genus levels shit" In response to Reply # 0
i'm never not amazed at....whatever the fuck this is when I see it. It's happening here.
It's when a some everyday act/word/symbol/statement is used to point to something devious and dark, but then the person who used the thing has every opportunity to deny the darker statement and lean back on the primary definition/associations of the object.
Then because the object (word, statement, symbol) is so ubiquitous it becomes a battleground for discussion in the culture war debates.
then, during the whole time, the person who first originally used the thing is able to keep both feet on two different islands of meaning. and it's done by simultaneously denying a second meaning while also positioning the dark statement as just joking/humor.
"The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist" - the big trick in all of this, is that we're all trying to act as if these meanings and interactions are just one to one, IRL and completely ignoring the part of living in a world thats on the internet and that the meaning of things has splintered because the language of internet culture is appropriation - so things are appropriated to be given new meaning by groups.
But, then, the meaning of clown world can also mean anything not going right in the world like, "the US and it's government have fucked up their Covid response...what a clown world"
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79586 posts
Tue May-04-21 10:38 AM
31. "I’m shocked people in here don’t believe these folk are above trolli..." In response to Reply # 27
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
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