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Buddy_Gilapagos
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"Poll question: We really need to wear masks while walking down the street?"


  

          

I mean, the CDC never really advocated for wearing masks in the streets right?

Bonus Question: Predict when 1.) 80%+ people don't wear masks on the street and 2.) when requirements to wear masks indoors go away.


Poll result (24 votes)
Yes! (2 votes)Vote
No! (9 votes)Vote
Probably not but what's the harm? (13 votes)Vote

  

  

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Subject Author Message Date ID
Couldn’t hurt.
Apr 22nd 2021
1
dunno. i still do though
Apr 22nd 2021
2
Fam! Not a single cold in an entire year!!!
Apr 22nd 2021
3
How would that help? H
Apr 22nd 2021
4
I usually get sick maybe 4, 5 times a year
Apr 22nd 2021
9
Im a teacher and i have not gotten sick. Not once this year.
Apr 23rd 2021
15
same boat
Apr 23rd 2021
18
sidebar: some people are fucking stupid as fuck
Apr 22nd 2021
5
No harm in wearing them
Apr 22nd 2021
6
Hole up, we are having more deaths NOW then in the middle of last year?
Apr 22nd 2021
7
      Deaths went WAY WAY WAY up in the fall
Apr 22nd 2021
8
I’m gonna keep my mask on me
Apr 22nd 2021
10
Dr. Sanjay Gupta says maybe not...:
Apr 22nd 2021
11
Is EVERYBODY on OKP really fully masked up?
Apr 22nd 2021
12
pretty sure some haven’t left home often since the shut down
Apr 23rd 2021
21
I do, and I've been vaccinated for months
Apr 22nd 2021
13
do you think you will keep wearing the mask forever?
Apr 23rd 2021
17
      planning on always keeping one with me (N95)
Apr 23rd 2021
25
I don't. Then I be feeling some kinda way when I get funny looks...
Apr 23rd 2021
14
i keep it on deckington.
Apr 23rd 2021
16
The requirements will go away in 2022.
Apr 23rd 2021
19
no.. only if its a crowded area
Apr 23rd 2021
20
My neighborhood is relatively quiet.
Apr 23rd 2021
22
I only rock it indoors and I can’t wait for that to be done
Apr 23rd 2021
23
I promise you I didn't see this headline before making this post.
Apr 23rd 2021
24
CDC says no. Update guidelines on mask usage(link)
Apr 27th 2021
26
RE: CDC says no. Update guidelines on mask usage(link)
Apr 27th 2021
27
the mask thing has shown what a spoiled brat, bitchmade country we are
Apr 27th 2021
28
      Bitchmade is the perfect word for this country
Apr 27th 2021
30
      I hear you, but we are approaching the hygiene theater soon
Apr 27th 2021
31
      thats not what i'm saying at all
Apr 27th 2021
38
      You can contract the virus by touching an infected surface
May 13th 2021
76
      My dad is a retired firefighter. Back in the 80's when
Apr 27th 2021
32
      I was wondering if Seatbelts got this much pushback back in the day.
Apr 27th 2021
33
      i was talking to my mom about this.
Apr 27th 2021
40
      YUP!!! I remember the bitching and moaning about it...
Apr 27th 2021
43
      yo.. you told this story on here before. and i shared it
Apr 27th 2021
39
           lol yeah - I’ve told it in a few places so I didn’t remember if
Apr 27th 2021
48
                it's a trip knowing they went this hard back then
Apr 27th 2021
51
                     My aunt died because of no seatbelt
Apr 28th 2021
52
                          Wow - that is so sad. Around when was this? Asking because I know
Apr 28th 2021
53
                               This happened in 2004-2005
Apr 28th 2021
57
      The fact that it's "easy" isn't a good justification to keep doing it
Apr 27th 2021
34
      >If it's not after getting vaccinated, then when is it?
Apr 27th 2021
35
      Explain the logic of this criteria
Apr 27th 2021
41
           Becuase being vaccinated does not STOP the disease
Apr 27th 2021
47
      is anyone making you?
Apr 27th 2021
36
      the very link you shared is moving in that direction
Apr 27th 2021
37
           I see what you're saying
Apr 27th 2021
42
                RE: I see what you're saying
Apr 27th 2021
44
                well said nm
Apr 27th 2021
46
                I mean most people are gonna do what they want
Apr 27th 2021
45
                When you're vaccinated, things change *for you.*
Apr 28th 2021
56
      The only solace I take is apparently we acted this dumb in 1918 as well
Apr 28th 2021
60
           yeah, type of people affected in 1918 were so different too
Apr 28th 2021
61
I wear the mask around my chin until I am around people
Apr 27th 2021
29
People wearing masks around their chins are more annoying than those...
Apr 27th 2021
49
nah, it's the under the nose saggers that get to me
Apr 27th 2021
50
Inside, I agree. Outside, I vastly prefer those who have masks nearby.
Apr 28th 2021
54
      most people with masks around their chins don't pull them up until...
May 03rd 2021
63
basically.. I usually take the kids to the playground
Apr 28th 2021
58
If I'm not going to be around other people, I don't. If I am, I do.
Apr 28th 2021
55
I am pretty convinced these CDC guideline are about Public Policy
Apr 28th 2021
59
      The people that wear masks when told are ikely the vaccinated
May 04th 2021
70
Reaching ‘Herd Immunity’ Is Unlikely in the U.S., Experts Now Believ...
May 03rd 2021
62
Country is gone - expect the south and midwest to be 1950s soon
May 03rd 2021
64
It was never possible
May 04th 2021
65
So yeah, I think folks are overdoing it with masks but if this dude
May 04th 2021
66
this is what some people do with their free time.. smh
May 04th 2021
67
snatch that sign and rip it the fuck up... good night
May 04th 2021
68
middle aged men hanging around schools their kids don't go to
May 04th 2021
69
I'm not rawdogging the air until COVID becomes a rarity
May 12th 2021
71
that's been my measure
May 12th 2021
75
I usually have at least a gaiter on whenever I leave the house
May 12th 2021
72
Again, which street which state and WHEN
May 12th 2021
73
it's a bizarre obsession
May 12th 2021
74
CA is doing great now, but once tourism restarts...
May 13th 2021
77
CA lsoes ither way with tourists
May 13th 2021
80
I hear you but is there any evidence of people getting COVID from
May 13th 2021
81
people are being real funny about positive cases
May 13th 2021
78
from what I understand being vaccinated doesn't make you immune...
May 13th 2021
79
      Vaccinating does not prevent ALL disease BUT people judge it wrong
May 13th 2021
82
CDC to ease indoor mask guidance...:
May 13th 2021
83

MEAT
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1. "Couldn’t hurt. "
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2. "dunno. i still do though"
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i haven't even had my yearly cold since i've been wearing masks

like, i don't think its something to go off on people for *not* doing, but the level of pettiness and anger over something that is should just be seen as considerate is legit weird.

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Buddy_Gilapagos
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3. "Fam! Not a single cold in an entire year!!!"
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That's kind of amazing. I do think I may never ride a train again without a mask.


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4. "How would that help? H"
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>I do think I may never ride a train
>again without a mask.
>
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Hasn't it been settled that a mask is helpful in stopping things from spreading out of your body, but does nothing for preventing stuff from coming in?

  

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9. "I usually get sick maybe 4, 5 times a year"
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I only got sick one time in 2020 and that was because my mom had Covid and I think my hypochondria got to me lol. haven't been sick in 2021 yet.



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15. "Im a teacher and i have not gotten sick. Not once this year."
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That is absolutely mind boggling to think about. Not a single cold. Nothing. My sick days have turned into mental health days where i get to just chill and relax.

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18. "same boat"
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>i haven't even had my yearly cold since i've been wearing
>masks

between the mask and getting some workout stuff for the crib, i aint been sick since winter '19. only keeping my membership to hoop when that opens back up.

definitely gonna continue with the mask indoors.

  

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5. "sidebar: some people are fucking stupid as fuck"
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One of my favorite little things to keep an eye on as a restaurant/bar worker, especially as the weather's been getting nicer, vaccines are rolling out and people are just getting tired of distancing but clearly did NOT build a muscle memory of being in public, is people's mask etiquette.

Walking up to a server or bartender with a mask on then removing it to ask a relevant question is a particularly wild move, only beat by walking up to a bartender/server with a mask in their hand and asking "do you want me to wear this?"

But the move I really get a kick out of that is FAR more frequent than you'd ever think it would be is people getting up from their table, being all in a good mood and walking through the restaurant/bar without their mask, or fishing for it in their purse/coat, putting it on as they walk out the door and then walking down the street with it on.

I'm vaccinated and lost my patience for people in general about 3 months ago when it was still cold and people started treating them like mouth gloves or something and taking them off the moment they stepped into a building and you realized they'd started thinking of the masks like a baklava or something instead of a health tool but something about the walking through a crowded, indoor space and putting your mask on AS YOU LEAVE still really tweaks something in me.

TL;DR people that are all nonchalant and kissing babies indoors then putting their mask on as they walk outside are my new favorite level of stupid.

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6. "No harm in wearing them"
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>I mean, the CDC never really advocated for wearing masks in
>the streets right?

Only if you were within 6 feet of someone else.

When I hike I don't freak out if someone isn't wearing a mask/covering - but I do it to be polite. Same rules as pants - if you see someone walking toward you then you wear it.


>Bonus Question:

Predict when 1.) 80%+ people don't wear masks
>on the street

*Right now* near the beach no one is wearing a mask.

> and 2.) when requirements to wear masks indoors
>go away.

These SHOULD go away when the virus is no longer spreading in your community. That's NOT right now in the U.S.

On April 21,2021 the U.S. reported 62,919 cases and 720 deaths'.
Last year during the lockdown , say June 12,2020 26,397 cases and 546 deaths - so we're in must worse shape now than during the summer.

So 'll listen to the scientist, but I think when we're under 1,000 cases a day in the U.S. maybe then. Or maybe a hgher number but vaccinations are taken into account.

It won't be this year for everyone.

And if it gets bad then masks come BACK.

But walking by someone for a second is probably not going to give you covid - but once they get too close or you get enclosed or they sneeze its a different risk.





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7. "Hole up, we are having more deaths NOW then in the middle of last year?"
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I would 100% have bet that was not the case. Did people just stop giving an ish when Trump was put out of office?

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8. "Deaths went WAY WAY WAY up in the fall"
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They just haven't gone back down.

See this chart:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1102816/coronavirus-covid19-cases-number-us-americans-by-day/

Or this one:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/us/covid-cases.html


>Did people just stop giving an ish when Trump was put out of office?

People are used to it and no longer afraid - they just ignore the data.

To be fair since the holidays were over - the hospitalization rates is way down, and even a little lower than in June - but we're in NO WAY near the end yet.

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10. "I’m gonna keep my mask on me"
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If I’m out for a walk and nobody is around I might take it down. I largely have to take it down cause my glasses fog up like fuckin crazy and I can’t see.

When I get proximate to folks I’ll keep it up.

I’ve done so much shit around NYC with a mask on and not felt like my freedom and liberty were at stake. If you think so, you’re the real snowflake.

That said, I am and stay in good shape, so I’m ready.

Like buddy said, I did t get sick this year at all— no sniffles no nothing— so I’m gonna keep on rockin it. Got some dope masks designs to add to my outfits.

When this all started I remember yelling at my mom that masks weren’t helpful after she kept bugging me about wearing one. She’s Thai so she been wearing one for no damn reason (or having one around) for years

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11. "Dr. Sanjay Gupta says maybe not...:"
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https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/22/health/masks-outdoors-need/index.html

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12. "Is EVERYBODY on OKP really fully masked up?"
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This place seems to have changed a lot....

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21. "pretty sure some haven’t left home often since the shut down"
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this is perfect for some folk

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13. "I do, and I've been vaccinated for months"
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besides the fact that I don't want to risk covid, there are still plenty of germs in the air, and even if i just avoid a common cold, good. I do pull my mask down when no one is around though.

  

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17. "do you think you will keep wearing the mask forever?"
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even if most people stop?

  

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25. "planning on always keeping one with me (N95)"
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mostly for public transpo. hopefully worn way way less than now though

  

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14. "I don't. Then I be feeling some kinda way when I get funny looks..."
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but then I be thinking, shit...I know how to measure 6-ft....



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16. "i keep it on deckington. "
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i try to gauge how close i'm gonna have to get to folks or how often i'm gonna encounter people.

i'm also that guy who will just cross the street.

probably overreacting but might as well since it can't hurt anything.

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19. "The requirements will go away in 2022."
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20. "no.. only if its a crowded area "
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and when I take my kids to the park and its crowded

but as long as there is some distance I’m not wearing one.


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22. "My neighborhood is relatively quiet."
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So when the wife and I go on walks, we keep our masks around our neck but if passing people or we get into a more congested area we put it on - but if someone is across the street or something, we don't bother. I know that's probably more liberal than some get with masks, but we're fully vaxxed and outside so it seems ok?

But yeah - I certainly don't see the harm in doing so. It might do nothing, but it might prevent spread and I'd rather default to the better thing for the community.

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23. "I only rock it indoors and I can’t wait for that to be done"
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24. "I promise you I didn't see this headline before making this post. "
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https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/22/well/live/covid-masks-outdoors.html?smtyp=cur&smid=tw-nytimes


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26. "CDC says no. Update guidelines on mask usage(link)"
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I really don't understand the logic behind this guidance though.
Why should fully vaccinated folks have to wear masks in places where unvaccinated people shouldn't be (indoor church services for example)?

Another example: attendance will be restricted for Biden's address to Congress. But why restrict it? Aren't they all vaccinated? Does the vaccine work or does it not?

You want to see vaccination rates sky rocket? Tell people you won't have to worry about a mask ever again.


https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/daily-life-coping/participate-in-activities.html

  

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27. "RE: CDC says no. Update guidelines on mask usage(link)"
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>I really don't understand the logic behind this guidance
>though.
>Why should fully vaccinated folks have to wear masks in places
>where unvaccinated people shouldn't be (indoor church services
>for example)?

We can't trust everybody to be responsible so the idea is to protect yourself, within reason. Plus, for those who CANNOT get vaccinated, it gives them an opportunity to potentially participate in indoor activities.

We're going to do a rolling opening like some trendy restaurant lol.

>Another example: attendance will be restricted for Biden's
>address to Congress. But why restrict it? Aren't they all
>vaccinated? Does the vaccine work or does it not?

I'd bet a number of Republicans aren't vaccinated and there are probably support staff who haven't been as well. But I'm sure it'll almost exclusively be Democrats that visibly wear masks.

>You want to see vaccination rates sky rocket? Tell people you
>won't have to worry about a mask ever again.
>
>
>https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/daily-life-coping/participate-in-activities.html

Nah, in our backwards political world, it's validation that this is all just a means to control the people. So the people who don't believe in COVID will just beat their socialism drum harder.


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28. "the mask thing has shown what a spoiled brat, bitchmade country we are"
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What should be seen as the most minimal, basic, considerate love-thy-neighbor gesture is treated like some kind of sacrifice or hardship, and at worst, attack on 'liberty'

i've never seen so many people whine about something so nothing.

Would i rather not wear a mask than wear a mask? sure, but mask wearing has been the easiest thing in the world.


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30. "Bitchmade is the perfect word for this country"
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Fucking A!

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31. "I hear you, but we are approaching the hygiene theater soon "
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No one is getting covid from walking down the street and passing people on the street without a mask on.

When we didn't know anything about the virus, it made sense to be extra cautious. Now that we know more about the virus and know, for example, its not being passed by surface area contact, then we can lay off of doing things we were doing out of an abundance of caution.

Last summer the aholes were the people walking around with no masks on, but soon the aholes will be the people screaming at people on the street to put a mask on.

We live in extremes in this country and we got terrible people like Tucker Carlson advocating calling the police on parents who make their kids wear masks. I think we can push back on that without swinging to the other extreme.

I hate that this whole thing got politicized.

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38. "thats not what i'm saying at all"
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i don't think we should be yelling at or shaming people for not wearing masks on the street. especially as things are moving in the opposite direction.

it was more a reply to pimp saying we have to baby people into getting vaccines by making it a trade off for masks.

and really just a general rant about people and masks

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76. "You can contract the virus by touching an infected surface"
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>When we didn't know anything about the virus, it made sense to
>be extra cautious. Now that we know more about the virus and
>know, for example, its not being passed by surface area
>contact, then we can lay off of doing things we were doing out
>of an abundance of caution.


virus can live on surfaces for a period of time...

  

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32. "My dad is a retired firefighter. Back in the 80's when "
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wearing seatbelts became a law in Michigan, several of his fellow firefighters (conservatives of course) who had been wearing seatbelts STOPPED wearing them, because the government was telling them to do so. Firefighters who were first responders for auto accidents, and knew first hand the difference between wearing a seatbelt and not.

And seatbelts are about protecting yourself, not others. A lot of folks on the right get triggered at the mere thought of "personal liberties" being "taken away".

>What should be seen as the most minimal, basic, considerate
>love-thy-neighbor gesture is treated like some kind of
>sacrifice or hardship, and at worst, attack on 'liberty'

  

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33. "I was wondering if Seatbelts got this much pushback back in the day. "
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40. "i was talking to my mom about this. "
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because she was specifically bitching about it when i was a kid. that its constricting, and what if you get trapped, etc..

she acknowledges she was wrong. especially since we've both been in multiple auto accidents since.

but i do remember debates about it. we just didn't have social media

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43. "YUP!!! I remember the bitching and moaning about it..."
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...moms always made us buckle up before that because we had cousins who were ejected in a bad crash growing up ...when i got rides from other moms they told me i didn't need to wear the belt or not to worry ..used to piss me off


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39. "yo.. you told this story on here before. and i shared it"
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like hey this dude i know who's dad was a firefighter..

lol

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48. "lol yeah - I’ve told it in a few places so I didn’t remember if "
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I’d shared here yet. My dad saw a LOT of stuff in 30 years as a firefighter, and considering what he’s seen that is maybe the craziest thing I’ve heard. Stories of car accidents where cars were flipped over multiple times, but because people had in seatbelts they were fine, and stories of what you’d think would be a fender bender and they were thrown into (or out of) the windshield and died horribly, just because they didn’t have a seatbelt on. Stories of a passenger wearing one and the driver not wearing one (or vice versa) with a crazy difference in outcome.

Also, by the time seatbelts became a law in the 80’s (at least here in Michigan) they weren’t new at all - they’d been in cars a LONG time, and these firefighters had BEEN wearing them because they knew what would happen if they didn’t. But yet they stopped once it became law.

  

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51. "it's a trip knowing they went this hard back then"
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I'm not under a delusion that Trump created all this shit, and like it def sounds like something that would happen now, and even if i did happen now i'd still be surprised and baffled by the STOPPED wearing seatbelts part.

most issues i can at least understand both sides of it regardless of my own opinion on it. the anti-masker thing i just don't get. I get being sick of it, or being annoyed, but the whole screaming about my rights, and Costco trantrums, and now going as far to get mad at the people who *do* wear them. none of it even registers

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52. "My aunt died because of no seatbelt"
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My aunt refused to wear seatbelts for some reason - the reason being people told her it was something she should do. And when it became the law it only hardened her resolve.

Well she got into a BAD car accident with my cousin and my cousin's kids - real bad.

Everyone except my aunt was wearing seatbelts. Everyone else survived --but my cousin had some pretty serious injuries.

My aunt was ejected from the car and died quickly

There was literally no way to get my aunt to wear her seatbelt - she was defiantly opposed, to it BECUASE it was both a good idea and was the law.

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53. "Wow - that is so sad. Around when was this? Asking because I know"
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from my dad's story that there was huge pushback back in the 80's. And even through the 90's and early 2000's you'd see big "click it or ticket" campaigns because people were still not wearing them. By now you'd think that folks have seen enough stories like this to realize the danger and just wear their seatbelts.

It all speaks back to the mask wearing issue - with seatbelts there is a VERY clear and direct cause/effect right there to see and you still had decades of pushback and defiance. So for certain people, they'll never get it with masks - because the cause/effect there isn't as instant, given the time to get sick, show symptoms, etc.

  

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57. "This happened in 2004-2005"
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She just didn't like when people told her to do things. she also didn't think smoking cuased cancer for some reason. She was born in 1959 or around there.

My other aunt was like this too - but I think she wears her seatbelt MOST of the time now. If it's a "short trip' she won't buckle up unless you nag her. (She won't take the vaccine - she says it'll mess up her DNA and fear is worse than COVID.)

As a child in the 80's I started to do it because it was so easy and seemed to carry a benefit. Literally just started doing it in 1981.

And in 1984 when Barbra Mandrell had the accident (and made the PSA) I think it hit home with a lot of my peers.

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34. "The fact that it's "easy" isn't a good justification to keep doing it"
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"Would I rather not wear a mask? Sure."

People would rather not wear a mask. So when can they stop?

If it's not after getting vaccinated, then when is it?

>
>Would i rather not wear a mask than wear a mask? sure, but
>mask wearing has been the easiest thing in the world.
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35. ">If it's not after getting vaccinated, then when is it?"
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It's when you are vaccinated AND the number of cases in your area goes down.

Masks come BACK when case load goes up too.

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41. "Explain the logic of this criteria"
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If people are vaccinated, why does the number of cases matter?

Shouldn't the criteria be when vaccines are widely available and accessible? That is, when everyone who wants a shot can get one.

There's always going to be cases. Especially when a significant chunk of the population who have no plans to get a vaccine.

At some point, if you choose not to protect yourself then that's just on you.



>It's when you are vaccinated AND the number of cases in your
>area goes down.
>
>Masks come BACK when case load goes up too.

  

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47. "Becuase being vaccinated does not STOP the disease"
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It greatly reduces the number of infections - so if you are in a town with relatively low infection rates AND you are vaccinated then it's a small risk and probably okay.

Notice the CDC DIDN'T say you should stop wearing a mask indoors in a crowded situation??

That's because you can still get sick. (It seems that the vaccine may help limit how sick you get - and hopefully it won't be serious, but there's a chance it could be.)

What needs to happens if for 1)You get vaccinated 2)The rate of infection goes down where you live and 3)It stays down for a period of time AND THEN it's safe.

It's like any other disease.

And if the rate of infection goes UP in your city (or Country) it might need to

Seems the hard part for people to accept is step 3 - where you wait. And things could go the other way. India is going the other way right now.

We could (I pray not) get a variant that makes the vaccine MUCH LESS effective - if that happens we go back to being more restrictive.

But it's not going to be this month - or next.





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36. "is anyone making you?"
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like if you're on the street without one you get run up on?

because now people are telling each other to tell people to take their masks off, which is weird because it doesn't affect you at all if someone else is wearing one.




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37. "the very link you shared is moving in that direction"
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the sooner we get to herd immunity, the sooner masks can go away.

now that the recommendation is hey, good news. you don't have to wear a mask for these outdoor activities, people are bithcing even MORE

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42. "I see what you're saying"
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The guidelines are being relaxed, so it should be good news.

But on the other hand, it can be disheartening because it's not much different than the current situation. Someone gets vaccinated and not much changes

  

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44. "RE: I see what you're saying"
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>But on the other hand, it can be disheartening because it's not much different than the current situation. Someone gets vaccinated and not much changes

For me the change is, you don't have to worry about dying or living with potentially crippling side effects from covid. It's been a weight off my mind. That's much different. I feel free to travel, I feel free to do whatever, and more or less get back to normal, just w/a mask.

I think the mask requirements for right now accomplish a few things
1. there's a slight chance a vaccinated person can spread it still (not a huge chance, but not zero) so cool, I'm not trying to spread it
2. general mask mandates still allow for vaccine rollouts to kick in. not everyone is vaccinated yet. we're building up immunity, but we're not there. let's give those at the back of the line to get theirs too before everyone goes mask free
3. It also keeps businesses from being put in the position of asking folks if they're vaccinated or not and selectively requiring folks to wear masks.



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46. "well said nm"
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>>But on the other hand, it can be disheartening because it's
>not much different than the current situation. Someone gets
>vaccinated and not much changes
>
>For me the change is, you don't have to worry about dying or
>living with potentially crippling side effects from covid.
>It's been a weight off my mind. That's much different. I feel
>free to travel, I feel free to do whatever, and more or less
>get back to normal, just w/a mask.
>
>I think the mask requirements for right now accomplish a few
>things
>1. there's a slight chance a vaccinated person can spread it
>still (not a huge chance, but not zero) so cool, I'm not
>trying to spread it
>2. general mask mandates still allow for vaccine rollouts to
>kick in. not everyone is vaccinated yet. we're building up
>immunity, but we're not there. let's give those at the back of
>the line to get theirs too before everyone goes mask free
>3. It also keeps businesses from being put in the position of
>asking folks if they're vaccinated or not and selectively
>requiring folks to wear masks.
>
>
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45. "I mean most people are gonna do what they want"
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if you're outside or going to people's houses, all they're really doing is recommending.

i don't know what Canada is like now but my boss went to visit his fam a few months back, and had to strict quarantine for 2 weeks.

not "we recommend you quarantine" either. It's, we're tracking you and you're gonna get a huge fine if you don't.

here americans can never be told what to do ever, even if there are no real consequences because were special

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56. "When you're vaccinated, things change *for you.*"
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Sure, you may still have to wear a mask places, but you also know you are highly, highly unlikely to get sick and die of COVID. So you can go do outdoor dining at a restaurant, you can travel somewhere if need be, etc. You don't have to stay quarantined if you don't want. That's such a huge difference-- and a huge relief-- compared to before.

I agree that the optics of "keep wearing the mask after getting vaccinated" can make people who don't like masks feel a bit hopeless... but it's not for our benefit, it's for the benefit of others, and it's to (a) make them feel safe that you're not spreading the disease to them and (b) encourage them to keep wearing the mask until more people are vaccinated.

Once the vaccination rate is high enough, I imagine indoor restrictions and mask recommendations will go away. Some people will keep wearing masks, and that's okay, but hopefully we'll be at a place where more people will feel comfortable when they see an unmasked stranger.

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60. "The only solace I take is apparently we acted this dumb in 1918 as well"
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There was an anti-mask movement back during the Influenza outbreak a little over a hundred years ago. It wasn't as large of a percentage of the population, but it was there.

Though back then, lots of people didn't want to wearing them for "comfort" reasons, rather than the "You're limiting my freedom!" horseshit.

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61. "yeah, type of people affected in 1918 were so different too"
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young, healthy people were getting the worst of it

i don't know if there was any kind of racial disparity. I'm guessing they weren't even collecting data on it, but I always go back to last spring where there was a short lived We're all in this Together mindset. so aside from the assumption that if you're not old or sick, you'll likely be ok, as soon as numbers dropped that black and brown people were disproportionately affected, all this "open up now! / "muh freedoms" took off and never looked back

but i do remember reading about a sizable anti-masker movement back then in SF of all places.

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29. "I wear the mask around my chin until I am around people"
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when i walk my dog or go on walks. I have the mask around the chin when i get around people i pull it up.

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49. "People wearing masks around their chins are more annoying than those..."
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who don’t wear them at all

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50. "nah, it's the under the nose saggers that get to me"
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i've been doing the chin thing more while walking an and pull it up when i see people getting near

it's the people who walk around stores with that shit under their nose. pull your damn mask up.

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54. "Inside, I agree. Outside, I vastly prefer those who have masks nearby."
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Because if I have to walk near them, I know they'll pull the mask up as I approach.

But yeah, if they're inside and don't have the mask covering their nose/mouth, there's no point to it, and they should stop pretending they care.

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63. "most people with masks around their chins don't pull them up until..."
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they enter a business and their asked to and as soon as the can they pull them back down. Plus you're more likely to get contaminated moving your mask up and down

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58. "basically.. I usually take the kids to the playground"
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if no one else is there we take our mask off.

If people are distanced I will put it around my chin until they get close

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55. "If I'm not going to be around other people, I don't. If I am, I do."
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If I'm going to be near people I don't know, I wear the mask, because they don't know I'm vaccinated, and I want them to feel safe.

If I'm not around people, or if I'm only near people I also know are fully vaccinated, I don't wear the mask.

Not too difficult to do.

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59. "I am pretty convinced these CDC guideline are about Public Policy"
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For the reason you state and not necessarily medical necessity.

That is, if the rule was vaccinated people don't need to wear there masks at all in public setting, then it all falls apart because people won't wear masks and you can't really challenge people because you don't know if they are vaccinated.

The best way to protect the unvaccinated is to have everyone wear masks but I doubt there is any real benefit to the vaccinated.
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70. "The people that wear masks when told are ikely the vaccinated"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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62. "Reaching ‘Herd Immunity’ Is Unlikely in the U.S., Experts Now Believ..."
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https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/03/health/covid-herd-immunity-vaccine.html

Early in the pandemic, when vaccines for the coronavirus were still just a glimmer on the horizon, the term “herd immunity” came to signify the endgame: the point when enough Americans would be protected from the virus so we could be rid of the pathogen and reclaim our lives.

Now, more than half of adults in the United States have been inoculated with at least one dose of a vaccine. But daily vaccination rates are slipping, and there is widespread consensus among scientists and public health experts that the herd immunity threshold is not attainable — at least not in the foreseeable future, and perhaps not ever.

Instead, they are coming to the conclusion that rather than making a long-promised exit, the virus will most likely become a manageable threat that will continue to circulate in the United States for years to come, still causing hospitalizations and deaths but in much smaller numbers.

“The virus is unlikely to go away,” said Rustom Antia, an evolutionary biologist at Emory University in Atlanta. “But we want to do all we can to check that it’s likely to become a mild infection.”

The shift in outlook presents a new challenge for public health authorities. The drive for herd immunity — by the summer, some experts once thought possible — captured the imagination of large segments of the public. To say the goal will not be attained adds another “why bother” to the list of reasons that vaccine skeptics use to avoid being inoculated.

If the herd immunity threshold is not attainable, what matters most is the rate of hospitalizations and deaths after pandemic restrictions are relaxed, experts believe.

By focusing on vaccinating the most vulnerable, the United States has already brought those numbers down sharply. If the vaccination levels of that group continue to rise, the expectation is that over time the coronavirus may become seasonal, like the flu, and affect mostly the young and healthy.

“What we want to do at the very least is get to a point where we have just really sporadic little flare-ups,” said Carl Bergstrom, an evolutionary biologist at the University of Washington in Seattle. “That would be a very sensible target in this country where we have an excellent vaccine and the ability to deliver it.”

  

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64. "Country is gone - expect the south and midwest to be 1950s soon"
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Country's lost.

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65. "It was never possible"
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66. "So yeah, I think folks are overdoing it with masks but if this dude"
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approached my kid maskless talking this shit, I would 100% try and knock his head off.

https://twitter.com/SamBraslow/status/1389328059577212928

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67. "this is what some people do with their free time.. smh"
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68. "snatch that sign and rip it the fuck up... good night"
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69. "middle aged men hanging around schools their kids don't go to"
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but no no it's not what you think, I just wanted to yell at the kids for wearing masks

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71. "I'm not rawdogging the air until COVID becomes a rarity"
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Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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75. "that's been my measure"
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when the numbers go down I'll change what I'm doing after that.

not before, and around here they aren't down enough.

around my neighborhood or whatever I don't have a mask on but if I'm going somewhere, yeah I keep it on in between it's not an issue

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72. "I usually have at least a gaiter on whenever I leave the house"
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Easy to pull up or down if there's people around. I keep a cloth or KN95 mask on hand too depending on where I am

If I'm out and about in the city, I keep the mask or gaiter on. It's almost part of life now.

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73. "Again, which street which state and WHEN"
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Right now it seems like San Francisco is doing GREAT probably okay RIGHT now. But if the number goes up then the mask should go back on.

Michigan and Colorado? I'd wear a mask right now unless I was vaccinated (I am) but even then so - what's wrong with wearing the mask?

As of 5/11/2021 this is how many people in 100,00 have Covid in locations:
CA: 4 out of 100,000
Michigan: 27 out 100,000
Florida:17 out of 100,000
Pennsylvania:17 out of 100,000

Note: When its less than 1 out 100,000 then it would probably go away/dies off unless and super spreading event occurs - new variant, etc. So it might be really safe in California right now relative to Florida, but that can change. And when Florida numbers go down then mask needs do too.

I think California would be doing as badly as Florida if we used their same policies.

Covid DEATHS in California in the last 7 days:59
Covid deaths in Florida *yesterday*:132



Remember this:1 out of 10 people in the UNITED STATES has been diagnosed with Covid since it started. And the non-symptomatic ones were probably undercounted.

So two approaches are : Relax standards now "for economy and freedom" which is what Florida is doing.
Or take a slower approach, whcih is what California is doing.

If 80 people dying a day is greater than you having to wear a mask when outside, then you should move to Flroida I guess.

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74. "it's a bizarre obsession"
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around here, when people are going to places where people will be, it seems like most are masked up even outside


what is really interesting to me about the TAKE MASKS OFF weirdos

is that before covid ever existed, we've always had a lot of chinese people who come over to study at MSU or U of M when I lived in ann arbor

and a lot of those cats rocked masks all the time when they were in public, even though there was no pandemic.

so how is it shocking that people are continuing to wear masks?


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77. "CA is doing great now, but once tourism restarts..."
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...those #s are going back on the upswing. Because morons from Arkansas and South Dakota and the like are fucking stupid, and won't have the sense to mask up on the streets once they're here.

Plus, I imagine Newsom is going to lift the mask mandate sooner than he should just for purposes of the recall election. He's already pledged to start sending out checks to residents with the money from the surplus, and he's going to try to erase any other lingering pieces of inconvenience before the election in the Fall.

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80. "CA lsoes ither way with tourists"
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When the 'Zoners show up unvaccinated and spread it to us they'll blame California for being dirty.

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If they come out, we don't get it and they go back and say "It's all a hoax."

As of RIGHT NOW Disneyland is only allowing CA residents. (I'm SERIOUSLY considering a trip to Disneyland this week because of low rates, enforced masking and dramatic capacity limits. Give it a 20% chance I go.)

Sea World allows out of state if they have proof of being FULLY vaccinated:
"SeaWorld San Diego is now operating as a theme park. Per state COVID-19 restrictions, attendance is limited to California in-state visitors, and now out-of-state visitors will be required to show proof of a fully completed COVID-19 vaccine (you are considered fully vaccinated two weeks after your second shot, or two weeks after the one-dose vaccine). Guests may also be asked to present proof of residency upon entry. Party sizes may not contain more than 3 households."


As our rates go down Newsome will loosen restrictions - that's literally been the plan as stated the entire time - and they are doing it "responsibly" - BUT it's not hard to see the consequences that are likely to come from the loosening - a rise in the numbers and an increase in sickness and death.

But now it's about judgement - there is always *some* risk around - but I find that AT LEAST 50% of people I talk to can not gauge risk in any meaningful way - it's a binary choice for them.

Meanwhile, Florida is OPEN, more people are dying, less are vaccinated and the South is rushing to join them.

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81. "I hear you but is there any evidence of people getting COVID from "
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walking down the street pass someone with COVID?

Does wearing mask while walking down the street cut COVID rates?

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78. "people are being real funny about positive cases"
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when it comes to vaccinated folk.

My wife is vaccinated and a student and her younger brother tested positive. Everyone is like “you’re vaccinated.. you are good”

but from what I have read some people are still testing positive even tho they had the vaccination... and does it mean you can’t be a carrier if vaccinated?



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79. "from what I understand being vaccinated doesn't make you immune..."
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you're just less likely to get sick but you can still be a carrier

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82. "Vaccinating does not prevent ALL disease BUT people judge it wrong"
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Vaccinated people can get infected - but it seems that nearly none who are vaccinated get a severe case of COVID which requires hospitalization and NONE, repeat NONE, have died from it.(Well the last numbers I saw.)

So your like 19 times more likely to get infected without being vaccinated - and then almost infinitely at greater risk to die if infected.

As for spreading - there are no reports of spreading from vaccinated people - because the numbers of people who are vaccinated who then get infected are so low, and then the severity of the disease is low that *they seem to not spread it at all.*

MAYBE that changes from no spread to a tiny bit when studied, but multiple orders of magnitude less than spread from unvaccinated.

Now, the spread from infected people might go from nearly 0 to
And when it stops spreading no one can catch it anymore.

So give the choices the vaccination route, while not PERFECT, is pretty much as close to perfect as we have available.

Nothing is prefect, but vaccinations and time can get this down to very very low levels. Once its low then it's less of a risk.

San Diego had hepatitis and TB outbreaks in the last decade - but they didn't lock down the county because it was a manageable risk. Covid hopefully will be the same.

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83. "CDC to ease indoor mask guidance...:"
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2021/05/13/covid-vaccine-cdc-variant-fda-clots-world-health-organization/5066504001/

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