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"Marvel Studios' Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings "


  

          

https://twitter.com/MarvelStudios/status/1384137317967831041?s=19

Shit looks hard as fuck!

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Nice! Jung!
Apr 19th 2021
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Looks good.
Apr 19th 2021
2
Doing it right this time...
Apr 19th 2021
3
eh the problem w/ Iron Fist is they just did a wack job
Apr 19th 2021
4
I mean... that was one of the many OTHER problems with the show
Apr 19th 2021
5
i generally dont care about shit like this
Apr 19th 2021
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      They could have done both.
Apr 20th 2021
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yoo.. i haaaate dude that plays danny rand in iron fist. that mfer is
Sep 02nd 2021
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      also, everyone in fight scenes was waaay better than him. colleen
Sep 02nd 2021
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      Maybe they will recast Iron Fist for a Shang Chi sequel?
Sep 12th 2021
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that's the difference between Disney and Netflix
Apr 19th 2021
6
A friend was lightweight going off about yet another "Asian Kung Fu guy"
Apr 20th 2021
9
well The Mandarin is in the trailer. it's not an allusion at all.
Apr 20th 2021
10
Oh? I didn't catch him
Apr 20th 2021
11
      his father is the mandarin
Apr 20th 2021
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           I'm confused, didn't they do the mandarin in Iron Man?
Apr 20th 2021
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           That was a bootleg Mandarin
Apr 20th 2021
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                gotcha
Apr 20th 2021
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           ah, I'm up to speed now
Apr 20th 2021
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yea were making progress there
Apr 20th 2021
13
Throw "Sorry To Bother You" in with the progress
Apr 20th 2021
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Its a legit gripe. I'm sick of Black drug dealers, Rappers and 'our' typ...
Sep 04th 2021
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I really thought after Better Luck Tomorrow
Sep 04th 2021
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Just came from watching. I enjoyed it. Give it a B+
Sep 02nd 2021
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missed the second one.
Sep 02nd 2021
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10+ years deep in the game, mf’s STILL leaving before the credits.
Sep 04th 2021
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      Yeah I Don't Get That Shit, You Would Think They Know It By Now
Sep 04th 2021
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      RE: Yeah I Don't Get That Shit, You Would Think They Know It By Now
Sep 05th 2021
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           near-perfectly trash
Sep 05th 2021
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                Damn Rjcc That's Really Harsh
Sep 06th 2021
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                     You been here before? "Harsh" is part of his brand nm
Sep 06th 2021
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                     I have evolved and grown emotionally. I am no longer harsh
Sep 08th 2021
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                     I take issue with it, because I think the people who like it
Sep 08th 2021
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      yeah I saw a few folk leaving like smh
Sep 06th 2021
30
I Saw "Shang Chi" Friday Night & Liked It A Lot
Sep 04th 2021
26
Fun movie and I LOVE Awkwafina...
Sep 06th 2021
33
...and that Anderson Paak joint at the end was FLAMES
Sep 06th 2021
34
that jawn is stupid crazy.
Sep 14th 2021
39
She does “slacker” very well.
Sep 06th 2021
35

Heinz
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1. "Nice! Jung!"
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2. "Looks good."
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*skatin' the rings of saturn*


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Boogie Stimuli
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3. "Doing it right this time..."
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meaning they don't have a white guy learning from Asians and then beating them all up b/c they're the bad guys AKA Iron Fist.

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4. "eh the problem w/ Iron Fist is they just did a wack job"
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casted a terrible fucking lead.

i'd be interested if they came up w/ a Heroes 4 Hire show. hell you could keep Mike Colter but you need a new Iron Fist baaaaaaad.

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5. "I mean... that was one of the many OTHER problems with the show"
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lol
Another being that the writing was trash. I remember thinking that even if the actors were amazing, they're being asked to turn shit into gold with the script they were given.

I just couldn't get over the premise for the 21st century tho. We're in 2017 at the time. The Ancient One was cast as a white woman, and they couldn't make Iron Fist Asian? Not buying it.

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7. "i generally dont care about shit like this"
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but isnt being a westerner (culturally at least, not necessarily ethnically) kind of an intrinsic part of the character? like the contradictons are the point?

WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

  

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8. "They could have done both."
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>but isnt being a westerner (culturally at least, not
>necessarily ethnically) kind of an intrinsic part of the
>character? like the contradictons are the point?

There were a lot of people advocating that he be ethnically Chinese but raised in the US and having no strong cultural ties to China. Could have had him adopted by the Rands or something and used that as part of the adversarial relationship with the board/the Meachums or whatever. If they wanted an Asian lead they could esaily have done it. That probably would have nixed Shang Chi though so maybe, considering that the writing and action choreography for the show was so bad, it was for the best.

Still what a waste of Jessica Henwick as Colleen Wing.

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21. "yoo.. i haaaate dude that plays danny rand in iron fist. that mfer is "
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so ass . that was one of my favorite characters growing up. was hyped when this came out. then seent that bullshit.

ugh.


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22. "also, everyone in fight scenes was waaay better than him. colleen "
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wing was dope.

he just looked mad stiff and uncoordinated.


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38. "Maybe they will recast Iron Fist for a Shang Chi sequel?"
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Sun Sep-12-21 11:58 AM by spirit

  

          

Seems like a cool place to reintroduce Iron Fist and The Hand into the MCU (yeah I know The Hand are Japanese, might as well get some regional beef jumping off LOL)

As a side note, I hope they keep the guy from Netflix Daredevil and bring him and Netflix Punisher into the MCU movies somehow

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6. "that's the difference between Disney and Netflix"
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Disney knows how to win

Iron Fist was all set up to blow just by fixing the character

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9. "A friend was lightweight going off about yet another "Asian Kung Fu guy""
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I hadn't really considered that. But he's right. I mean, people are gonna say this is an old marvel character that's been around since the 70s or whatever, but he's point is that as an Asian person, he's tired of seeing indistinguishable Asian kung fu guys. Like the only way Asian folks enter the western imagination is through these kinds of stereotypes.

Also the trailer looks cool.

Also, the 10 rings is an allusion to The Mandarin, who will almost certainly be the villain of the series.

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10. "well The Mandarin is in the trailer. it's not an allusion at all."
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11. "Oh? I didn't catch him"
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12. "his father is the mandarin"
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15. "I'm confused, didn't they do the mandarin in Iron Man?"
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16. "That was a bootleg Mandarin"
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The real one wasn't actually in the movie.

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17. "ah, I'm up to speed now"
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https://www.denofgeek.com/movies/shang-chi-and-the-legend-of-the-ten-rings-deals-with-the-mandarin-difficult-history/


I pretty much forgot everything about iron man 3

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13. "yea were making progress there"
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>I hadn't really considered that. But he's right. I mean,
>people are gonna say this is an old marvel character that's
>been around since the 70s or whatever, but he's point is that
>as an Asian person, he's tired of seeing indistinguishable
>Asian kung fu guys. Like the only way Asian folks enter the
>western imagination is through these kinds of stereotypes.
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>Also the trailer looks cool.
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>Also, the 10 rings is an allusion to The Mandarin, who will
>almost certainly be the villain of the series.


But really slowly some examples:

Crazy rich asians <<~~~ though there seems to be a whole 'nother trope developing around "crazy rich asians"
-subsequently Henry Golding as the lead and then getting a lead with Emilia Clarke in last Christmas -- which unfortunately sucked.

Alexander Hodge's Insecure Character

Charles Melton in The Sun is Also a Star.

Randall Park and Ally Wong's work. I appreciate that Randall Park's Jimmy Woo character isnt some kungfu/karate master hero.

Though one thing i'll name is that lanes are still pretty narrow as the are for other non white people.


One thing I will name is that:
Something about Asian's that can also be romantic leads --even in the rare cases they happen-- are primarily biracial as noted above. This is true going back to Russell Wong, Keanu Reeves, and Jason Momoa if youre counting AAPI.






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14. "Throw "Sorry To Bother You" in with the progress"
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23. "Its a legit gripe. I'm sick of Black drug dealers, Rappers and 'our' typ..."
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Karaoke is a stereotype too....

I think they handled the stereotypes waaaaay more adroitly than the stupidity of casting Tilda Swinton or the Iron Fist fiasco tho.

Simu Liu isn't the brooding silent Kung fu type of the past, and honestly, that is a departure from the Shang-Chi in the comics.

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24. "I really thought after Better Luck Tomorrow"
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there would be more everyday Asian movies like the Black movies of the 90s...

  

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19. "Just came from watching. I enjoyed it. Give it a B+"
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The "oh wow it's... and then lol" was good to see too. Make sure yall stay for the two end credit scenes.

  

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20. "missed the second one."
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Had to hit the bathroom.

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25. "10+ years deep in the game, mf’s STILL leaving before the credits."
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Like, bro, just watch shit on Fire Stick if you don’t care about it. You’re wasting your own money.

I like the implications of both secret scenes, and the movie overall has me hyped for The Eternals.

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27. "Yeah I Don't Get That Shit, You Would Think They Know It By Now"
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...but I will say I was kind of pissed when they didn't have any ending scenes for "Logan" or "X-Men: Phoenix" but those were technically Fox movies not Marvel per-se.


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28. "RE: Yeah I Don't Get That Shit, You Would Think They Know It By Now"
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>...but I will say I was kind of pissed when they didn't have
>any ending scenes for "Logan" or "X-Men: Phoenix" but those
>were technically Fox movies not Marvel per-se.
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29. "near-perfectly trash"
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31. "Damn Rjcc That's Really Harsh"
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I thought "Logan" was decent for what it was, a well written ending story, kind of how Marvel went thru their "Death Of Wolverine" & "Old Man Logan" phase with him, it's like an alternate future time line story.




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32. "You been here before? "Harsh" is part of his brand nm"
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36. "I have evolved and grown emotionally. I am no longer harsh"
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that was the old me


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37. "I take issue with it, because I think the people who like it"
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generally would say they don't like YA movies, and it is just a regular ass YA movie

and not a top tier one

it's mid

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30. "yeah I saw a few folk leaving like smh"
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It's like leaving before the free desert lol.

  

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26. "I Saw "Shang Chi" Friday Night & Liked It A Lot"
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I thought Shang-Chi was going to be the typical martial arts movie but it turned out pretty damn good, I gotta say whomever did the writing for Awkwafina did a hell of a job (I wouldn't be surprised she basically wrote or improvised all her own dialog) cause she basically carried that movie as a side0kick and comedy relief; cause at certain points the movie was feeling like a dark Dragon Dynasty feature film.

I won't give out any spoilers for those that didn't see it yet but when I saw the character (will just say Mr.W), I thought he would show back up when they reached the village to help out with the battle but nope, it's all good though.

I'll say, it's surprising how Marvel can always make a decent movie but DC still has a hard time doing it from time to time.


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33. "Fun movie and I LOVE Awkwafina..."
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she's basically her character from Nora From Queens, but it works.

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34. "...and that Anderson Paak joint at the end was FLAMES"
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39. "that jawn is stupid crazy."
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it sounds like it came from a Ventura session but it had no room on there....so it found a home on the Shang Chi movie/soundtrack

  

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Yes! She's on the drugs. (c) BoHagon

  

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