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PimpTrickGangstaClik
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"The evolution of the word "woke""


  

          

So it's been completely co-opted now. It's either a derogatory label or it's used sarcastically.

But my memory is fuzzy on this. Was it ever a serious term? Was there ever a time people used "woke" earnestly?

Was Childish Gambino's hook serious or jokey?

  

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by the time he used it, it was past it's useful service life.
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"Stay woke" was actually valid until it was hijacked
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It’s the new dog whistle
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I read this the other day and your post brought it back to mind. (link)
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This came up in a post I made a few years ago:
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Georgia Anne Muldrow wept.
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yup....
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^
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it's like any other slang. they all have a shelf life.
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except for...
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it was over when it was used in conservative circles w/o irony
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white supremacists generally use it to say 'nigger lover'
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This. Yep.
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FLUIDJ
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Thu Apr-08-21 08:49 AM

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1. "by the time he used it, it was past it's useful service life."
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Once upon a time, maybe up until the late 90's (early aughts even..EARLY) it had validity.


"Get ready....for your blessing....."
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Sofian_Hadi
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Thu Apr-08-21 08:59 AM

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2. ""Stay woke" was actually valid until it was hijacked"
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Its been turned into a joke unfortunately. But it was an important phrase or word

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"The world is before you and you need not take it or leave it as it was when you came in." - James Baldwin

  

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bentagain
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Thu Apr-08-21 09:02 AM

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3. "It’s the new dog whistle "
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Hilarisad watching evangelicals and Christian fundamentalists using the term based in awakening as a derogatory word

I bet if you asked these kind of people what the word means...they’d be lost

Woke is the new Antifa...it’s a good filter

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you can't understand it with an explanation

  

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Marbles
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Thu Apr-08-21 10:20 AM

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4. "I read this the other day and your post brought it back to mind. (link)"
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I read this WaPo article the other day and your post brought it back to mind.

I know some conservative folks (white, of course) who have used it with derision when discussing politics with me. It made me cringe because of the way it was brought into the mainstream.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/cancel-culture-background-black-culture-white-grievance/2021/04/01/2e42e4fe-8b24-11eb-aff6-4f720ca2d479_story.html

“Cancel” and “woke” are the latest terms to originate in Black culture only to be appropriated into the White mainstream and subsequently thrashed to death. Young Black people have used these words for years as sincere calls to consciousness and action, and sometimes as a way to get some jokes off. That White people would lift those terms for their own purposes was predictable, if not inevitable. The commodification of Black slang is practically an American tradition. “One of the biggest exports of American culture,” said Renée Blake, a linguistics professor at New York University, “is African American language.”

Terms such as “lit” and “bae” and “on fleek” — or, if you’re a little older, “fly” and “funky” and “uptight” — have been mined by White people for their proximity to Black cool. The word “cool” itself emerged from Black culture. “I do not know what white Americans would sound like if there had never been any black people in the United States,” James Baldwin wrote in 1979, “but they would not sound the way they sound.”

With “canceled” and “woke,” there’s a twist: Not only have these words been appropriated from Black culture, but they have also been weaponized to sneer at the values of many young Black liberals.

  

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Teknontheou
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5. "This came up in a post I made a few years ago:"
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https://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=13309061&mode=full#13309110


https://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=13309061&mode=full#13309836

  

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6. "Georgia Anne Muldrow wept."
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9. "yup...."
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so much for master teachers

  

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13. "^"
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man.

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7. "it's like any other slang. they all have a shelf life."
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they're born, grow up, some blow up. then die. some take a long time to die.

it sux when then make it to mainstream and become jokes or used as a negative.

I wonder how it happens with some and not others.

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

  

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10. "except for..."
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nigga

Won't ever die. And yes...it's slang.

  

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8. "it was over when it was used in conservative circles w/o irony "
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11. "white supremacists generally use it to say 'nigger lover'"
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America has imported more warlord theocracy from Afghanistan than it has exported democracy.

  

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12. "This. Yep."
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