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double negative
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"What policy/action/change would actually lead to equality in the US?"
Tue Mar-02-21 03:59 PM by double negative

  

          

I'm talking about Black people and racism in the united states of america ya'll.

When I say "equality" I mean, true agency.

In this case, being able to build wealth or independence without there being some devaluation, zero-sum thinking, zero-sum motives, or scheme to defraud people. Essentially, being left the fuck alone to pull the levers ourselves without there being a concern that we will take too much or become a competitive threat.

When Black people tried building wealth using traditional tools like banking and real estate, the cake was kicked over before it had a chance to rise. Every venue for generational wealth-building has been booby-trapped it seems.

I think I've reached a conclusion where the only way forward is to flip the damn etch-a-sketch over and start fresh.

Im kind of at a loss for changes that will allow for growth to take traction undisturbed by the forces and will of white supremacy.

One way forward is the growth of black wealth and power in darkness and silence only to be revealed at maturity. A financial underground railroad?

Another way forward is changing the meaning of whiteness to exclude definition by perceived superiority to Black and blackness.


Otherwise...I have absolutely no fucking idea what is next besides incremental changes in our social landscape.

Did this make sense? I'm not sure I was specific enough


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Black folk leaving in large numbers
Mar 02nd 2021
1
1. Where? 2. Why? 3.History...
Mar 02nd 2021
3
      I say to countries predominantly "Black" or African
Mar 02nd 2021
8
my response would get me put on a list
Mar 02nd 2021
2
👁👉🏽👈🏼 👁
Mar 02nd 2021
4
Miscegenation. Whiteness by its definition is white supremacy.
Mar 02nd 2021
5
I would like to try segregation again, without segregating resources.
Mar 02nd 2021
6
how could that even be sold?
Mar 02nd 2021
7
      There is not a single explicitly black policy that wont have backlash
Mar 03rd 2021
13
Reparations and massive/enforceable policy changes
Mar 02nd 2021
9
what kind of reparations?
Mar 03rd 2021
11
we need to make sure whatever they setup on Mars ain't US ver2
Mar 03rd 2021
10
beltalowda innit kopeng?
Mar 03rd 2021
12

Musa
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1. "Black folk leaving in large numbers"
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3. "1. Where? 2. Why? 3.History..."
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I just learned there were actually efforts to prevent black people from leaving the south during the great migration.

from arresting people to not paying people suspected of wanting to leave to straight up violence.


they want us to leave / They don't want us to leave.

BTW, I don't disagree or agree with your point

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Musa
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8. "I say to countries predominantly "Black" or African"
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or countries that are not overtly dominated by eurasians.

Why because this country has never meant to include stolen Africans for anything other than exploitation and have shown they will go out of their way even if they cut their nose off to spite their face to undermine the development and stability of so called Black People.

The US has always sought to control the "Black" population and sadly our people out of self hate and phony inclusion have bought into the undermining their own population in several ways.

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2. "my response would get me put on a list"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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5. "Miscegenation. Whiteness by its definition is white supremacy. "
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"whiteness to exclude definition by perceived superiority to Black and blackness."

The whole purpose of defining whiteness (and originally blackness) is to define superiority.

The only thing whiteness shares is "not blackness". That's why white pride is inherently racist.

Blackness (like Italian-ness, Irish-ness, Korean-ness, Nigerian-ness)
on the other hand, can be defined in ways other than its relationship to whiteness.

Just a specific point I wanted to make.

Other than that, I think the answer is power, and power comes from money, military or demographics.



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6. "I would like to try segregation again, without segregating resources. "
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"They used to call me Baby Luke....but now? The whole damn 2 Liiiive Crew."

  

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7. "how could that even be sold?"
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without there being backlash or a cascading effect?

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Brotha Sun
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13. "There is not a single explicitly black policy that wont have backlash"
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"They used to call me Baby Luke....but now? The whole damn 2 Liiiive Crew."

  

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afrogirl_lost
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9. "Reparations and massive/enforceable policy changes "
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would be a great start. People can choose to repatriate with their funds or remain here.

  

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11. "what kind of reparations? "
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straight up cash monies? tax plan? education? home buying?

if it's cash then...I can't even imagine a sum that would make sense, like 30mil per person

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10. "we need to make sure whatever they setup on Mars ain't US ver2"
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All we can do here is make sure that it doesn't get worse (meanwhile, the VRA is under attack again in the courts). Starting fresh *is* the only way to go. We fucked up when we didn't use our collective buying power to create a home in one of the African countries...but it feels like the ship may have sailed (read:China).

It sounds far fetched, but first comes the explorers, then the colonizers. With Mars, we're at step one. Sure there are some environmental problems to overcome, but to think those problems will take more than one or two generations to figure out seems unreasonable to me.

So for me, the question is how much money can I set aside in a trust fund so that when phase two pops off, the my clan ain't stuck here, even if we can only send one.

My other question would be what are we doing collectively to ensure that we are part of these discussions about how any colonies are set up. This is something we should be figuring out now.

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12. "beltalowda innit kopeng?"
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