"Daniel Kaluuya or Robert Downey Jr? That voice he used is terrible"
When Judas and the Black Messiah trailer plays it looks great until you hear Daniel Kaluuya. Then I say maybe Fred Hampton sounded like that... goes to YouTube find a clip of Hampton speaking, he don’t sound like that at all. Bottomline it’s bad acting, and bad casting but in this pussy society where everyone gets a trophy you don’t get called out when you need improvement.
but in this pussy society where >everyone gets a trophy you don’t get called out when you >need improvement.
huh?
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2. "No opinion on Kaluuya really" In response to Reply # 0 Sun Feb-07-21 01:15 PM by shockvalue
But I will say that not all great actors are great mimics. I personally don't need a biopic performance to be a great imitation of the original person for it to be effective. There's a magic sometimes in the synthesis of the actor with the material.
However, all that being said, a guy who could have nailed Hampton's tones was Eddie Murphy. It's a shame he didn't make a great movie in that role in the 80's (of course the funding prospects for something so "transgressive" in those days was probably way more difficult).
Maybe it might still be possible through "the Irishman"-style de-aging??? LOL no god forbid...Fred Hampton with White Walker blue eyes isn't something the world is ready for.
8. "Post kind of took a left turn at the end lol" In response to Reply # 0
I don't necessarily care as much that he sounds like Fred as I care that his voice doesn't take me out of the movie. That's the value of the actor being a great mimic, I get to think about the character instead of the actor.
I'll still probably check it out. If what Noname is correct, it's kinda weird to see Fred Hampton Jr. supporting the film. I'm really over Black liberals telling the stories of Black radicals. It's always watered down.
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79586 posts
Thu Feb-11-21 01:29 PM
17. "well, the movie isn’t called Fred Hampton" In response to Reply # 16
so I’m not sure I get her angle in this. Maybe they presented it as a Fred Hampton film but the trailer pretty much gave the impression the story would be about Darius more than Fred Hampton.
I’m looking forward to it.
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legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79586 posts
Thu Feb-11-21 02:59 PM
19. "Its called Judas and the Messiah" In response to Reply # 18
I expect it to be problematic since its probably more about the Judas
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22. "Not sure why this is a problem?.." In response to Reply # 20
..Its a film that details how Hampton was set up and assassinated.
That doesn't prevent anyone from showcasing other facets of Hampton's life & politics. As a matter of fact, this film might be the spark for another aspiring or accomplished director to delve further into Hampton's life.
23. "exactly. no film is the definitive canon." In response to Reply # 22
its a fictionalized film of real events
we put this kinda stuff on too much of a pedestal
folks should just watch the documentary instead.
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