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Ron Burgandy
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"Bilal - Love For Sale"


  

          

Listened to this album last night for the first time in a few years. It is still as fresh as ever. By far his best body of work. Has he ever discussed why it was shelved? Have either of you ever seen him perform any of the songs?

At this point,I really wish he would do a Record Store Day release of this. I would pay good money for it......

You stay classy okayplayer!!

  

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White Turns to Grey and All For Love...chef's mfin kiss
Feb 01st 2021
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RE: White Turns to Grey and All For Love...chef's mfin kiss
Feb 01st 2021
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Best unreleased album I've ever heard
Feb 01st 2021
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It was shelved because it leaked
Feb 01st 2021
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Yeah, I remember reading about that and it was probably the FIRST time I...
Feb 01st 2021
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      you say that, then still blame the label..lol wow
Feb 01st 2021
10
           Meh...I've evolved. That's where my frame of mind was back in 2006
Feb 01st 2021
11
                ok that's good to know
Feb 01st 2021
14
Lord Don't Let It
Feb 01st 2021
4
RE: Lord Don't Let It
Feb 01st 2021
6
Bilal paved the way for Anderson .Paak
Feb 01st 2021
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RE: Bilal paved the way for Anderson .Paak
Feb 01st 2021
13
thank you. It's not a 1:1
Feb 01st 2021
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"I feel the same way, I feel the same way" - Raekwon n/m
Feb 02nd 2021
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Paak has some joints like "Make It Better" that could have easily been
Feb 02nd 2021
20
RE: Bilal paved the way for Anderson .Paak
Feb 05th 2021
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RE: Bilal - Love For Sale
Feb 01st 2021
9
what label is he on now?
Feb 01st 2021
12
      RE: what label is he on now?
Feb 01st 2021
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Saw his last live gig, November 2019 here in Barcelona
Feb 01st 2021
15
Got the album on here 15+ years ago
Feb 01st 2021
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All for love is the jam forever
Feb 03rd 2021
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YEEEEEEEEEEEEZ
Feb 04th 2021
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I still have never heard it. Anyone that can hit me off?
Feb 04th 2021
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RE: I still have never heard it. Anyone that can hit me off?
Feb 05th 2021
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Youtube has the full album.
Feb 08th 2021
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RE: Bilal - Love For bootleg
Feb 07th 2021
26
a-ight, Chachi
Feb 07th 2021
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This Bilal and Rell’s “The Remedy” could have both been
Feb 07th 2021
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RELL
Feb 08th 2021
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      That Rell album was a beast..don’t sleep.
Feb 10th 2021
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CherNic
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1. "White Turns to Grey and All For Love...chef's mfin kiss"
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as far as not being released, it was pretty much Interscope's fault right? They didn't like the music, Bilal fought for it, then it got leaked?

  

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jimaveli
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7. "RE: White Turns to Grey and All For Love...chef's mfin kiss"
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>as far as not being released, it was pretty much Interscope's
>fault right? They didn't like the music, Bilal fought for it,
>then it got leaked?

Yep. I was openly sad about it. I STILL street team for that album every time it comes up. I listen to it hard about once every year or so.

I'm gonna get up on it in February based on this thread.

The 'version' I listen to also has Had to Cut Corners (Live) on there. It's beautiful too. That shoud have been a H I T.

  

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CIPHA
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2. "Best unreleased album I've ever heard"
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I guess that's one good thing about the new music business, I don't think you can shelve projects anymore.

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Let me guess, I can have "good day" now, right?

  

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Boogie Stimuli
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3. "It was shelved because it leaked"
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Interscope didn't want release it because they didn't think it would sell. They told him to do something more radio-friendly. Then it leaked, and they shelved it. I've seen Bilal talk about going through a couple of years of depression over that, having worked so hard on the project. He bought some home studio programs and just started writing songs for himself that weren't just about love but about a wide range of topics just as kinda therapy for himself. A lot of that ended up as part of Airtight's Revenge. He seems to see that as the silver lining of it all.

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FLUIDJ
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5. "Yeah, I remember reading about that and it was probably the FIRST time I..."
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ever felt just a bit of guilt/remorse for downloading ...just a TINNNNGE though.... labels be bullshitting not releasing that heat in a timely fashion. And Love For Sale was some serious heat!!

"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"

  

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Damali
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10. "you say that, then still blame the label..lol wow"
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"But rest assured, in my luxurious house built on the backs of people darker than me, I am sipping fine scotch and scoffing at how stupid you are." - bshelly

  

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FLUIDJ
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11. "Meh...I've evolved. That's where my frame of mind was back in 2006"
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Mon Feb-01-21 01:26 PM by FLUIDJ

  

          

His situation made me think about it more....


"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"

  

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Damali
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14. "ok that's good to know"
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"But rest assured, in my luxurious house built on the backs of people darker than me, I am sipping fine scotch and scoffing at how stupid you are." - bshelly

  

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FLUIDJ
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4. "Lord Don't Let It"
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"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"

  

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jimaveli
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6. "RE: Lord Don't Let It"
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>"Get ready....for your blessing....."
>"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"

There’s a new man in your liiiife now. But you stiiill call and checkin on meeee.

But it’s aaaaaaaaaalriiiiiiiight! You say he’s just a friiiiiend.

Yes! Love for sale is harshly jamming. There’s no less than 6 borderline perfect Bilal songs on there. He deserved better for sure.

And yeah, record labels can be the worst. This is my vote fore best leaked album to never see the light of day in any non-leaked form. I’m sure there’s other candidates but this one flat out bothered me. And I didn’t like the idea that the leak was used as the problem. The truth is that the label failed dude by not trusting him. Also, years later, Jay and Kanye found a way to stop Watch the throne from leaking so clearly it was possible to keep shit out of people’s hands.

  

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8. "Bilal paved the way for Anderson .Paak"
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am I the only one who thinks this?

I feel like they have a similar style and position in the landscape

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jimaveli
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13. "RE: Bilal paved the way for Anderson .Paak"
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>am I the only one who thinks this?
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>I feel like they have a similar style and position in the
>landscape

No. This is exactly how I pushed Paak to some of my friends. It’s an unfair comparison cuz Bilal is amazing in a way that’s roughly impossible to duplicate. But it seems like dr dre and them pretty clearly view Paak as Bilal 2.0.

  

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17. "thank you. It's not a 1:1 "
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bilal is bilal, .paak is his own thing, they seem to come from a shared planet

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NorthWeezy
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19. ""I feel the same way, I feel the same way" - Raekwon n/m"
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...

……………….,,
http://gravalicious.tumblr.com/archive

"If you're not loving someone, you're wasting your time." - Dennis Brown

  

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20. "Paak has some joints like "Make It Better" that could have easily been "
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>am I the only one who thinks this?
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>I feel like they have a similar style and position in the
>landscape

on a Bilal project. But Paak also has other sounds he taps into.

  

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howardlloyd
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24. "RE: Bilal paved the way for Anderson .Paak"
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man... paak dont belong in the same sentence with bilal.

yall cats is trippin

maybe he's a an extremely poor and homeless man version

paak's best work was driven by knx

smfh

bilal is arguably the greatest male singer of the last 25 years

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Ron Burgandy
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9. "RE: Bilal - Love For Sale"
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Can we campaign to get this a proper release??? This album is timeless and I believe most that own and cherish their bootleg copy, would absolutely by an official release. He could print up a few thousand vinyl copies with some good liner notes and charge what he wants for it...I know I would cop.

You stay classy okayplayer!!

  

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12. "what label is he on now? "
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"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"

  

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Ron Burgandy
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16. "RE: what label is he on now? "
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Not sure. He was last signed to E1. From what I read, Interscope still holds ownership of 'Love For Sale'. If that's true, I really wish they would let him have it to officially release. Or at the very least go ahead and drop it.

You stay classy okayplayer!!

  

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15. "Saw his last live gig, November 2019 here in Barcelona "
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He played Something to Hold Onto and When White Turns to Grey, maybe some more but that's what I can remember of the top of my head.

Incredible album, such a shame that his true classic got shelved

  

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18. "Got the album on here 15+ years ago"
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«White Turns to Grey» is Forever in my favorite songs top 50

  

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21. "All for love is the jam forever"
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America has imported more warlord theocracy from Afghanistan than it has exported democracy.

  

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22. "YEEEEEEEEEEEEZ"
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23. "I still have never heard it. Anyone that can hit me off? "
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Purty please? Or at least point me in the right direction?
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"To Each His Reach"

but.....

Fuck aliens.

  

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25. "RE: I still have never heard it. Anyone that can hit me off? "
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>Purty please? Or at least point me in the right direction?
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>"To Each His Reach"
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>but.....
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>Fuck aliens.

Youtube almost certainly has all of it.

And make sure you listen to Cut Corners Live too!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QneWLbOXCY8

  

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30. "Youtube has the full album."
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Let me guess, I can have "good day" now, right?

  

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Scott Baio
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26. "RE: Bilal - Love For bootleg"
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only wait ppl got a copy if i had enough money i would buy right to mastercopies.

I really do Love Joni!

  

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28. "a-ight, Chachi"
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Yep

  

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27. "This Bilal and Rell’s “The Remedy” could have both been"
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Career changing had they been released. Rell definitely might not have had the drug distribution charges and would be more than the club singer he is today.

Additionally, had DannyBoy’s (It’s About Time) album been released in the 90’s, the trajectory of male r&b might have been slightly different.

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29. "RELL"
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31. "That Rell album was a beast..don’t sleep."
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