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ThaTruth
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"Kwame Kilpatrick fresh out..."


          

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2021/01/20/kwame-kilpatrick-out-prison-trump-commutation/4239700001/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWh4O6ujK4o

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How guilty was dude?
Jan 21st 2021
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super guilty, ran a two-bit racketeering operation while at the same tim...
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Listen to the Crimetown podcast.
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Very guilty and corrupt as a motherfucka. However...
Jan 21st 2021
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facts...
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yeah.. the sentencing is what made me wonder if he was THAT guilty
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      He was tied for the longest federal sentence ever given to an elected...
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he was doing a lot
Jan 21st 2021
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Now this got buried
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and Harry O
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no Suge?
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Suge got fed charges? Also....manslaughter
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Love this one.
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apparently Lil Wayne and Kodak Black also...
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kodak writeup on the pardon site long as hell
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      hes still facing a sexual assault charge outside the pardon.
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The pardon is such a dumb power given to a president
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Yes yes yes especially this.
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RE: The pardon is such a dumb power given to a president
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Is there an overarching theme in the type of Black People Trump Pardoned...
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Of course. It's his entire worldview.
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Great example of why nobody here buys the Herald anymore
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absolutely. i don't really know how to articulate it but
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      It's like, if you polled black people, none of these people would be on ...
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           I could hear him now. The Blacks, they love the rappers
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           I hear Kwame went hard in the paint kissing his ass and flattering him.
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                dead stripper? wtf... gotta check out that podcast
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                     make sure to listen to the mansion party stuff too
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                          Clarification: Not me, some other Buddy.
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           Yeah, this is the nail on the head:
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                There was definitely money involved.
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I'm still shocked at the Blackwater mercenary pardons
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100%
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I can't imagine more evil pardons have *ever* happened.
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the military has done worse shit that was never convicted in some cases....
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there's sooo much of this
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yup
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legsdiamond
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1. "How guilty was dude? "
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I didnt follow his case but wondered if what he did was worthy of 28 years.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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7. "super guilty, ran a two-bit racketeering operation while at the same tim..."
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cheating on his wife with his designee

criminal through and through

  

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Brew
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10. "Listen to the Crimetown podcast."
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Both seasons are great (in fact I probably liked season 1 a little more, if only because I'm a Boston/New England native and that season was about corruption in Providence RI) but the 2nd season is about Kilpatrick and Detroit.

The pod does a really thorough job of telling the whole story IMO. And his backstory about how he came up from a young age is really fascinating as well.

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15. "Very guilty and corrupt as a motherfucka. However..."
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...he didn't "deserve" to be sentenced to 28 years in the bing. And since this was a commutation rather than a pardon, I'm not mad about this one.

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20. "facts..."
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>...he didn't "deserve" to be sentenced to 28 years in the
>bing. And since this was a commutation rather than a pardon,
>I'm not mad about this one.

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24. "yeah.. the sentencing is what made me wonder if he was THAT guilty"
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Thats “catching bodies” years

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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mrhood75
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27. "He was tied for the longest federal sentence ever given to an elected..."
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...official. The other guy is Jimmy Dimora, the man who Cuyahoga County (essentially Cleveland) for years as commissioner. He got busted for the same type of stuff Kilpatrick did.

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25. "he was doing a lot"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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Amritsar
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2. "Now this got buried "
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At least In my algorithm it did

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3. "and Harry O"
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https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/snoop-doggtrump-death-row-records-michael-harris-pardon-1116872/


Death Row Records co-founder Michael “Harry O” Harris

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4. "no Suge?"
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5. "Suge got fed charges? Also....manslaughter"
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9. "Love this one."
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This dude got fucked over on multiple levels by multiple people.

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6. "apparently Lil Wayne and Kodak Black also..."
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https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/20/politics/lil-wayne-kodak-black-trump/index.html

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8. "kodak writeup on the pardon site long as hell"
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i give him about 6 months out before he's hemmed up again so hopefully he records his ass off in that time period

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17. "hes still facing a sexual assault charge outside the pardon."
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https://mobile.twitter.com/HOT97/status/1352298355024654338

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11. "The pardon is such a dumb power given to a president"
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For a couple of reasons.

It's supposed to be an Executive check on the Judicial branch. And theoretically, the legislative branch can check the president with impeachment if he uses the pardon improperly.
But that doesn't work when all the pardons go out on the last day in office, or if he has a compliant Congress.
Again, theoretically a president could have a DC hit squad murder folks with the promise of no consequences.

And the way they are given out are unjust. The only way to get a pardon is if someone with influence advocates for you. Regular pardon requests get tossed out. But let a Kardashian say your name and you have a chance.

I agree with the way Obama did it for low level drug crimes. Just a blanket pardon for everyone meeting some criteria.

  

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13. "Yes yes yes especially this."
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>I agree with the way Obama did it for low level drug crimes.
>Just a blanket pardon for everyone meeting some criteria.

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16. "RE: The pardon is such a dumb power given to a president"
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Yep and I know its implied in your comment but it really shits on our already fucked legal/criminal justice system + it doesn't consider the impact to victims of the crimes

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12. "Is there an overarching theme in the type of Black People Trump Pardoned..."
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I am not sure how to explain it, but these pardons still fit into what I think is Trumps racist image of black people.

Like in Trump's mind, these hoods are representative of his image of black people so if he is going to pardon black people, these are the ones he will pardon.

Like no way would it be the many black panther type activist still in jail like Ed Poindexter.

https://omaha.com/news/crime/supporters-seek-benevolent-release-for-ed-poindexter-say-it-would-help-heal-racial-wounds/article_c5f81b80-f906-57d1-bc3d-4aab175d5659.html




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14. "Of course. It's his entire worldview."
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18. "Great example of why nobody here buys the Herald anymore"
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Just a flurry of bullet points without much context that leaves the reader still thinking "convict's a convict, not much to be done" without doing any legwork to put these men's lives in proper perspective.


They always give the AG Don Klein a pass too.


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19. "absolutely. i don't really know how to articulate it but "
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it's a similar reason right wingers love sharing Diamond & Silk videos.

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22. "It's like, if you polled black people, none of these people would be on ..."
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top of the list of black people that black people want to see pardoned.

However, if you put together a list of who racist white people think black people would want to see pardoned, it would look more like this list.


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23. "I could hear him now. The Blacks, they love the rappers"
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and shit, why wouldn’t he pardon Kwame? Thats prolly one of Trumps hero’s.

Thats how business is run in Trump land.

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26. "I hear Kwame went hard in the paint kissing his ass and flattering him. "
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More power to him. He got too much time...unless he did kill that stripper.


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32. "dead stripper? wtf... gotta check out that podcast"
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33. "make sure to listen to the mansion party stuff too"
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I remember an episode of Foxxhole Radio covering a lot of this stuff when it happened. People were calling in from Detroit talking about buddy's wife ran up in the party among other things

  

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36. "Clarification: Not me, some other Buddy. "
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28. "Yeah, this is the nail on the head:"
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>However, if you put together a list of who racist white people
>think black people would want to see pardoned, it would look
>more like this list.

I can see Trump thinking pre-election that getting Lil' Wayne's endorsement was going to cut a shit-ton of ice with the Black voters. And he liked the money that Wayne undoubtedly gave him.

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29. "There was definitely money involved. "
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I think about how you can hire someone to lobby on your behalf to get you a pardon and pay that person 1M. Then that person can turn around and donate 750K to a Presidential PAC and ask the president to give a pardon, and its all perfectly legal.

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21. "I'm still shocked at the Blackwater mercenary pardons"
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I don't know that I've seen a more evil set of pardons in my lifetime.

Lil Wayne, Harry O, Kodak, are all kind of whatever to me. But there was some real life evils that were excused on behalf of American imperialism. It's literally one of the most unforgivable things of the entire Trump administration, but it barely registers in the public consciousness.



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30. "100%"
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"Regardless if you listen to me, in the end we'll see."
-Cee-Lo

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31. "I can't imagine more evil pardons have *ever* happened."
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>I don't know that I've seen a more evil set of pardons in my lifetime.

Haven't researched it obviously but these abhorrent blackwater sociopaths seem hard to beat.

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34. "the military has done worse shit that was never convicted in some cases...."
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never even charged, they're basically cops backed by the us government

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35. "there's sooo much of this"
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these horrible things that would define any other person forever, but somehow fall through the cracks with this guy.

> but it
>barely registers in the public consciousness.
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37. "yup"
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