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PimpTrickGangstaClik
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"Y'all seeing Mackenzie Scott (Bezos ex-wife) making it rain on HBCUs?"
Tue Dec-15-20 03:49 PM by PimpTrickGangstaClik

          

Actually just making it rain in general. She's donated over $6 billion to organizations so far this year, and more than $4 billion of that in the past 4 months.

Today it looks like she gave:
$40 million to Morgan State
$20 million to Delaware State
$15 million to Clark Atlanta
$50 million to Prairie View
$30 million to Virginia State
$5 million to Dillard
$15 million to Elizabeth City State

I may have missed some.

And recently she gave:
$20 million to Xavier
$20 million to Morehouse
$20 million to Tuskegee
And undisclosed amounts to Howard, Hampton, and Spelman




https://medium.com/@mackenzie_scott/384-ways-to-help-45d0b9ac6ad8

  

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$6 BILLION!!!!
Dec 15th 2020
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Really boggles the mind to think how rich Jeff Bezos really is
Dec 15th 2020
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I don't know it it's true anymore
Jun 17th 2021
76
And people say there should be no Billionaires or that they are evil
Dec 15th 2020
3
I'm not hating (much) but isn't it almost tax time?
Dec 15th 2020
4
Yep.
Dec 15th 2020
6
Does that even matter? IJS
Dec 15th 2020
14
      I'm not hating (much)
Dec 15th 2020
15
Oooooh so you just don't understand the argument
Dec 15th 2020
5
LOL for real tho. The point is *literally* the opposite of what he think...
Dec 15th 2020
9
but but but.....wait it gets worse!
Dec 15th 2020
11
there's always some programmed idiot who uses a moment like this
Dec 15th 2020
17
      Indoctrination is a motherfucker.
Dec 16th 2020
30
I do understand peoples opinions. You have yours.
Dec 15th 2020
12
      You really don't. But here's your Jesus' opinion on the matter
Dec 16th 2020
26
           Oh he's got some apologetic gymnastics locked and loaded for that
Dec 16th 2020
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                LOL, You made all that up in you head. For no reason
Dec 16th 2020
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                     I didn't make up anything. Here's a clarifying question:
Dec 16th 2020
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                          Your entire previous comment was made up. WTFreakAYTA?
Dec 16th 2020
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                               Odd, considering you just did what I said you would do.
Dec 16th 2020
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                                    Lies. I didn't make an apologetic. I provided a clarifying point.
Dec 16th 2020
49
                                         No, it's an apologetic. Whether you're able to admit that or not.
Dec 16th 2020
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                                              Actually it's not. I'm not defending anything.
Dec 16th 2020
64
yes. correct. there should be no billionaires. your point?
Dec 15th 2020
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You assume a lot. Maybe that's you issue in life.
Dec 15th 2020
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      you clearly don't understand the point
Dec 15th 2020
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      I do understand the point. I don't fully agree. That's how life works.
Dec 16th 2020
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           Lmao! No, you do not get it
Dec 16th 2020
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                No. I just don't agree with your logic.
Dec 16th 2020
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                     You literally just typed that bullshit which proves you don't understand...
Dec 16th 2020
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                          LET ME SAY IT SLOWER. And stop being so emotional.
Dec 16th 2020
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                               "Stop being so emotional"<---divert, deflect, etc. As I said.
Dec 16th 2020
44
                                    His response was very emotional and profanity laced.
Dec 16th 2020
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                                         The word shit doesn't doesn't fucking mean you're fucking emotional
Dec 16th 2020
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                                         There you go, arguing to arguing
Dec 16th 2020
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                                              As opposed to... responding to respond?
Dec 16th 2020
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                                         lmao the fucking comedy continues
Dec 16th 2020
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                                              Yeah, that mirror is clean, huh
Dec 16th 2020
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                                                   and profanity laced
Dec 16th 2020
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      You make a lot of really dumb assertions.
Dec 16th 2020
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           I don't owe you an in-depth explanation. That's how life works part II
Dec 16th 2020
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                That statement is a fantastic microcosm of the issues described
Dec 16th 2020
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                You stay arguing about something. I provided clarity below - way
Dec 16th 2020
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                     You did exactly what I said you always do:
Dec 16th 2020
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                          Cool. That cup looks nice.
Dec 16th 2020
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                you really are an idiot
Jun 18th 2021
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RE: And people say there should be no Billionaires or that they are evil
Dec 16th 2020
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there SHOULDN'T be billionaires
Jun 18th 2021
78
Man that is a sh*t ton of money for VSU.
Dec 15th 2020
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Same
Dec 15th 2020
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What I love about it is Jeff probably dies a little with each check.
Dec 15th 2020
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his worth went up from 75b to 200b this year alone
Dec 16th 2020
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50 mill to Prairie View????
Dec 16th 2020
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i hope they use the money well
Dec 16th 2020
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I hope they all make capital improvements.
Dec 16th 2020
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      hope there are checks and balances in place
Dec 16th 2020
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      some positions need to be created to oversee this bread
Dec 16th 2020
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      A&T had a record year in donations…183 million
Jun 20th 2021
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WSSU got $30 million! Speedy! We did it!
Dec 16th 2020
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Toss some coins to Bennett College!
Dec 16th 2020
27
People, People People, Settle the Freak Down! Stuck on a Billion!
Dec 16th 2020
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That was further confirmation that you do not understand.
Dec 16th 2020
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There's no a monopoly on the topic. You have a narrow focused view -
Dec 16th 2020
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      My view on this isn't remotely narrow.
Dec 16th 2020
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Great example: Your "rich people are greedy" link
Dec 16th 2020
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      Yes, there are ethical problems. I'm not debating ethical problems
Dec 16th 2020
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           You're debating an argument not presented in this thread
Dec 16th 2020
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                See my initial response. What are you arguing?
Dec 16th 2020
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                     You're responding to people who aren't here.
Dec 16th 2020
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                          Then why are you responding?
Dec 16th 2020
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                               It's a discussion, and i've been 100% on topic, in context,
Dec 16th 2020
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                                    Are we discussing anything or are you making accusations?
Dec 16th 2020
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                                         If you were "good" you wouldn't keep responding
Dec 16th 2020
70
I came back to find this at 60 replies. I knew this thing had to be bamm...
Dec 16th 2020
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I highly doubt you read any of it.
Dec 16th 2020
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Recently gave away another $2.7billion
Jun 17th 2021
72
I had no idea she remarried
Jun 17th 2021
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      He's probably like: But do we have to get rid of ALL of it though?
Jun 17th 2021
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           and then she tells him her bank account is like space
Jun 17th 2021
75
           And she's like: "We"? When did you start teaching French?
Jun 17th 2021
77
                Right? What’s the Mackenzie equivalent of shooting in the gym?
Jun 20th 2021
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Scott:$133million to educ. Bezos:Dismantles bridge for $500million yacht
Feb 03rd 2022
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A very Historical Black bridge tho..
Feb 03rd 2022
83

Bambino Grande
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1. "$6 BILLION!!!!"
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2. "Really boggles the mind to think how rich Jeff Bezos really is"
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Dude's throwaway money can prop up a dozen+ 100 year old institutions.

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Let me guess, I can have "good day" now, right?

  

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76. "I don't know it it's true anymore"
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but I believe his ex-wife became one of the 20th richest people in the world as result of the money Jeff Bezos gave her after their divorce.

That is pretty damn insane.

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3. "And people say there should be no Billionaires or that they are evil"
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OK.

  

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4. "I'm not hating (much) but isn't it almost tax time?"
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6. "Yep."
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They don’t have to pay taxes on the amount of their income that they donated. So do the math.

Charitable deductions is mostly for the rich.

They even hiked up the standard deduction to make it even more exclusive.

“The way the charitable tax deduction is set up, lower-income Americans can’t really take advantage of it. Unless you earn a lot of money, it makes no financial sense to do your taxes in a way that lets you claim the charitable deduction. The 2017 Republican tax bill made even fewer Americans eligible for the charitable deduction by hiking the standard deduction. Critics responded that they’d made the tax deduction a deduction just for the rich.”

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14. "Does that even matter? IJS"
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15. "I'm not hating (much)"
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5. "Oooooh so you just don't understand the argument"
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because this is absolutely, in no way, something to point to in support of billionaires.

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9. "LOL for real tho. The point is *literally* the opposite of what he think..."
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11. "but but but.....wait it gets worse!"
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we need billionaires to help the poor!

lol

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17. "there's always some programmed idiot who uses a moment like this"
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Tue Dec-15-20 10:53 PM by Stadiq

          

as proof that people are "too hard" on the mistreated wealthy.


Just stupidly doing their work for them.


We all better hope the billionaires take pity on us or invest in the right pet projects cuz this shows that billionaires aren't evil.


Praise capitalist jesus. A multi-billionaire has found a cause.

  

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30. "Indoctrination is a motherfucker."
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12. "I do understand peoples opinions. You have yours. "
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But ALL too broad of a Broad Stroke for me. There are no absolutes regarding this topic. We're going to agree to disagree on that matter.




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26. "You really don't. But here's your Jesus' opinion on the matter"
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Wed Dec-16-20 11:17 AM by Hitokiri

  

          

"Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.”

So Rev, who are you disagreeing with again?

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28. "Oh he's got some apologetic gymnastics locked and loaded for that"
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Anything from it being a metaphor, to the "eye of the needle" being a reference an actual gate that was only narrow enough for the person and their camel to get through, and so the passage is supposedly referencing the fact that someone traveling with too much would be unable to get through.

Of course, that nonsense isn't helped by the fact that jesus, in the passage right before the one you mentioned, was asked what one must due to gain eternal life, and he said to keep the commandments (nothing at all about accepting him as their savior, but I digress).

The man asked which ones, Jesus said don't murder, commit adultery, or steal, and honor your father and mother, and love your neighbor as yourself. The man said he's kept all those, and then Jesus says to sell all your possessions and give to the poor- and *then* follow him (Jesus).

Case will have another ridiculous contortion to explain that too.
Indoctrination is basically cancer. That shit is hard to kill.

  

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36. "LOL, You made all that up in you head. For no reason"
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Wed Dec-16-20 02:24 PM by Case_One

          

I said, "And people say there should be no Billionaires or that they are evil"

And you ran literally ran off and made up an entire conversation in your miserable head. But as always, you failed to do the first basic thing - ask a clarifying question. But do you. It's a regular routine that you play out all the time.


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39. "I didn't make up anything. Here's a clarifying question:"
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Have you sold all your possessions?

A simple yes or no is sufficient.

  

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41. "Your entire previous comment was made up. WTFreakAYTA?"
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Wed Dec-16-20 02:46 PM by Case_One

          

>Have you sold all your possessions?
>

My Answer: No.

My comment: Jesus didn't ask me to sell all of my possessions, becasue my possessions was not a stumbling block in the way of me following him.



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46. "Odd, considering you just did what I said you would do."
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>>Have you sold all your possessions?
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>My Answer: No.
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>My comment: Jesus didn't ask me to sell all of my possessions,
>becasue my possessions was not a stumbling block in the way of
>me following him.

...and, in my previous post, I said you'd have some apologetic gymnatic routine ready to go for that question.

I then listed candidate apologetics often used by christians.

I didn't make up a goddamned thing.
That you didn't use one of the specific examples (niether of which I said you'd use specifically, because again, they were exmaples) and went with another bullshit contrortion to allow you to rationalize why you're not doing what you're convoluted myth tells you to do, doesn't change anything.

  

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49. "Lies. I didn't make an apologetic. I provided a clarifying point."
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You don't like the fact. That's your problem.

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57. "No, it's an apologetic. Whether you're able to admit that or not."
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Wed Dec-16-20 04:23 PM by Cold Truth

  

          

Not that it matters, post hoc rationalizations are pretty much necessary to be religious.

  

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64. "Actually it's not. I'm not defending anything. "
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Again, arguing just to be arguing.


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8. "yes. correct. there should be no billionaires. your point?"
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Tue Dec-15-20 05:09 PM by Damali

          

i'm assuming that your usual logical lapse leads you to believe that others would not have this money if there were no billionaires.

is that your unlogical leap for today, Einstein?

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13. "You assume a lot. Maybe that's you issue in life."
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How's it working for you?




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16. "you clearly don't understand the point"
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You say you do, but you really, very clearly, do not.

And your point that this news somehow invalidates the 'no billionaires'point is, frankly, willfully ignorant and/or shockingly stupid.

So basically you came in here to poorly dunk on an argument that you clearly don't understand, accuse OTHERS of operating under absolutes, and accused others of being the ones who make assumptions.

How is all of that working out for you?

  

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31. "I do understand the point. I don't fully agree. That's how life works."
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My point is that not all Billionaires are inherently evil. Bezo's ex inherited the Billions via a divorce settlement. How does that make her evil? It doesn't. That's the point I was making on an individual moral level.





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33. "Lmao! No, you do not get it"
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You really think you do, but you absolutely fucking don't.
This is just comedy.

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35. "No. I just don't agree with your logic."
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>You really think you do, but you absolutely fucking don't.
>This is just comedy.

And you're here with me in the same boat and don't even know it.

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37. "You literally just typed that bullshit which proves you don't understand..."
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you got several people right here telling you that you don't understand, but you just keep typing dumb shit. It's comedy.

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40. "LET ME SAY IT SLOWER. And stop being so emotional. "
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Wed Dec-16-20 02:52 PM by Case_One

          

First: I don't agree that all Billionaires are inherently evil.
Second: See the First.

Are there valid arguments about the exploitation of people, resources, social and economic structures by people who are Billionaires? YES! YES! YES! There are some evil, raggedy, unethical, people who are Billionaires. But I can't say that all Billionaires are inherently evil. That doesn't negate my understanding when it comes the atrocities that some Billionaires have committed. In fact the number is some made up benchmark that's being used, becasue again, as I said in my comments below, many of these jokers were evil before they reached a Billion.







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44. ""Stop being so emotional"<---divert, deflect, etc. As I said."
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51. "His response was very emotional and profanity laced."
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It is what it is.
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58. "The word shit doesn't doesn't fucking mean you're fucking emotional"
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Shit is just a fucking word, for fuck's sake.

  

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63. "There you go, arguing to arguing"
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Par for the course.


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67. "As opposed to... responding to respond?"
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60. "lmao the fucking comedy continues"
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65. "Yeah, that mirror is clean, huh"
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71. "and profanity laced"
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29. "You make a lot of really dumb assertions."
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And you're never able to substantiate those dumb assertions with facts or sound logic.

If her assumptions were off base, you *could* choose to expound in a way that clarifies your meaning and intent. We all say shit flippantly from time to time that could stand a little clarification in order to complete a thought that sounded one way at first, but becomes something different once clarification is given.

The problem you have is, when you do expound, you tend to double down on everything that was wrong in your initial statement.

  

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32. "I don't owe you an in-depth explanation. That's how life works part II"
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38. "That statement is a fantastic microcosm of the issues described"
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Because you're a dishonest interlocutor, all the time, every time, when your opinion is challenged. You do not discuss anything in good faith, unless you're preaching to a choir.

Otherwise?

It's this disingenuous nonsense.

Nobody said you owe anyone anything.

What you "owe" is immaterial to whether or not the things you say comport with reality.

And you tend to lean heavily toward opinions that do not comport with reality at worst, and deal in gross oversimplifications at best. You routinely demonstrate that you are not in step with logic and observable facts, and view things consistently through low common denominator lenses.

And so often, when you're challenged with logic and facts that dispute your opinion, you go straight into that dip/dodge/duck/deflect/divert mode.

You are incapable of having an honest, sincere discussion on any topic where your thoughts aren't in line with the other party.

In this particular case, you were spectacularly loud and wrong, and absolutely didn't want to hear about how or why.

  

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42. "You stay arguing about something. I provided clarity below - way "
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before you made this goofy comment. But do you.



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47. "You did exactly what I said you always do: "
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You doubled down on the ignorance of your original statement.

By explaining more, you further illustrated that you genuinely don't understand.

  

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54. "Cool. That cup looks nice."
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See how that work. We're talking about two different things. But keep arguing. That Frog is wet.


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79. "you really are an idiot"
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consistently stupid

  

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22. "RE: And people say there should be no Billionaires or that they are evil"
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https://www.businessinsider.com/tax-cuts-rich-trickle-down-income-inequality-study-2020-12?utm_source

  

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78. "there SHOULDN'T be billionaires"
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no one needs nor deserves nor works for that kind of money.

  

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7. "Man that is a sh*t ton of money for VSU. "
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I love it.




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18. "Same "
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>I love it

  

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10. "What I love about it is Jeff probably dies a little with each check."
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She's the one responsible for keeping the company afloat in the early days for that pizzle faced cyclops anyway, so she understands better than anyone the value of that dough. I may even buy her next novel.

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20. "his worth went up from 75b to 200b this year alone"
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jeff prob look at that 38b settlement like "thats cute"

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19. "50 mill to Prairie View????"
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That might as well be a Billion to them...

You take the blue pill, the story ends. You wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill, you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes.

  

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21. "i hope they use the money well"
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any word on how they came up w/ how much to give each school?

i saw on local news A&T got 45m and WSSU got 30m here
looks like Central missed out.

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23. "I hope they all make capital improvements. "
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Upgrade them campuses and dorms.

It would be even doper if they centralized the construction efforts with oversight by a project manager who makes sure none of the money is wasted.

ANND the construction is done by black businesses that employ black people.



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24. "hope there are checks and balances in place"
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and not just checks

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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45. "some positions need to be created to oversee this bread"
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hbcus are unfortunately notorious for gross money mismanagement

  

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80. "A&T had a record year in donations…183 million"
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Endowment is over 150 million now…puts them in the Top 5 of HBCUs and the top Public HBCU…

A&T was already on a building spree prior to this…they have been growing at crazy numbers over the last decade…


Google just donated 5 million to the school last week

Barnes and Noble announced they are paying for all of the books for students for the next two years…

We got a good squad up in Gift office to stay the least…

  

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25. "WSSU got $30 million! Speedy! We did it!"
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America has imported more warlord theocracy from Afghanistan than it has exported democracy.

  

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27. "Toss some coins to Bennett College!"
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34. "People, People People, Settle the Freak Down! Stuck on a Billion! "
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First, for some, the topic Billionaires being evil for is a charged emotional matter, and it's hard to have a coherent conversation about the subject. If you can read, then you can find tons of articles that position why Billionaires shouldn't exist or why they are the scum of the earth and the negative impact that their quest for monetary domination causes for the world. So, if you can read you can understand why people think and feel they way they do about the matter. But again, understanding why someone feels the way they do does not validate the absolute end-all assumption or position. Life is not BLACK and WHITE. That's the fact.

So, let's agree that there are some (I don’t have a number) Horrible and Unethical Billionaires. But we can also agree that many of them were horrible and unethical people before they became Billionaires. To my point, the dollar figure is not the issue. Evil people are the issue and many evil, horrible, and unethical people that have become Billionaires were evil before they made a Billion dollars.

The OP Post is about Bezos ex-wife MacKenzie Scott giving away money to HBCUs. My point is that although she was married to Bezos, she's not Bezos. Nevertheless, She's now an individual Billionaire that may have not been a Horrible and Unethical person. She's become the beneficiary of a financial marital asset. That's how divorces work.

Say she was a loving, caring, empathetic, upright and moral person in life. Does her new financial status make her a Horrible and Unethical person. I think not. To the point of my protest, not all Billionaires are evil.

But, I'm sure that someone will argue that MacKenzie Scott shouldn't even be in this situation because Billionaires shouldn't exist. Well, they do and that's a different conversation. My point is that not all Billionaires are inherently evil.







Rich People Are Greedy
Do you hate rich people? Come on, be honest.
BY: Brad Klontz Psy.D., CFP
Posted Mar 07, 2010

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/mind-over-money/201003/rich-people-are-greedy




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43. "That was further confirmation that you do not understand. "
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You're arguing against the notion that the billionaire, the person, is the evil.

It's odd that you say, rather condescendingly, that life is not black and white, while you make a black and white defense of billionaires (the people themselves) not being evil.

A given billionaire may or may not be necessarily "evil", depending on definitions. Key word: Necessarily.

And I'm sure you'll out some article somewhere where people are railing against the billionaires specifically being the scum of the earth. but that's not what's happening here, in this thread, and that makes your entire argument here a straw man.

The evil of billionaires-the concept, not necessarily the specific person- lies in the fact that nobody earns a billion dollars. There's an argument for, say, someone who got in on bitcoin back in 2010 and held on, but even that speaks to the same broader issue.

Bezos is worth hundreds of billions on the backs of front line workers who, until recently, made a wage that was low enough that many still qualified for public assistance, and our taxes (very little of which is paid by Amazon) have to be used to subsidize those people into a a standard living that is still just treading water.

Then, Amazon upped the wages of those workers to a level that, in many cases, was just above the cutoff for public assistance, thereby moving the quality of life needle very little, if at all.

The system that allows for Bezos to exist as he does, is the system that allows for the front line workers who work their ass off under absolutely insane conditions, under an absurd amount of monitoring and scrutiny, to make a barely livable wage.

Further, the money that Bezos' wife is handing out, while great for those institutions, was made off the labor of those same workers.

The fact that she gave that much isn't evil in a vaccuum.

The fact that one person commands enough wealth, off the backs of innumerable workers who have not reaped a meaningful fraction of that same reward despite contributing the vast majority of the sweat involved in creating that wealth, to just give away that amount of money, absolutely IS evil.

Because the issue at hand is the concentration of immense wealth to a minuscule number of people is the problem.

That those workers will, by and large pay a significantly greater percentage of their income in taxes than Amazon does as a company, is evil.

That those workers do not make a wage high enough to allow them to actively participate in the stock market that billionaires such as Bezos use to expand their fortunes exponentially off the roller coaster created by a global pandemic that disproportionately impacts the workers who built the seed capital that allowed to be in the mix to receive those gains, is absolutely evil.

If those workers received a significantly greater portion of the profits- and by that, I mean all of them, and not the paltry stock options given as part of a benefits package, but a truly equitable wage- those workers would have substantially better economic situations.

Mind you, this is just amazon.

And it's just a scratch on the surface, because there is so much more to address on the subject.

And yet, you're here talking in black and white terms, defending the symptom of the problems inherent with billionaires, without once addressing any of the problems themselves.

  

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48. "There's no a monopoly on the topic. You have a narrow focused view -"
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and you made my point in your first sentence. I am not talking about the concentration of wealth or challenging that argument. I have heard people say that all Billionaires are inherently evil and immoral because they had to do immoral or unethical things in order to accumulate such wealth and that's what I'm challenging.

Again, I'm not arguing the position against s the concentration of immense wealth to a minuscule number of people. That's one problem. That's not that problem I'm contesting. '

So, why can't you understand that fact.




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56. "My view on this isn't remotely narrow."
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And that's evident in my statements.

I addressed a particular issue, but that issue is arguably the top level shell under which the rest of the issues are nested, which is the system that not only allows, but facilitates and encourages poverty wages for frontline workers while creating staggering levels of wealth for those at the time- and I addressed several individual elements of how and why those were negative.

My post was anything but "narrow".

I then reiterated the fact that that particular post was only dealing with Amazon, before clearly stating that there is much more to address on the subject.

>and you made my point in your first sentence.

>I am not
>talking about the concentration of wealth or challenging that
>argument.

>I have heard people say that all Billionaires are
>inherently evil and immoral because they had to do immoral or
>unethical things in order to accumulate such wealth and that's
>what I'm challenging.

Who is expressing that view in here, as you just expressed, for that to be challenged?

>Again, I'm not arguing the position against s the
>concentration of immense wealth to a minuscule number of
>people. That's one problem. That's not that problem I'm
>contesting.

>So, why can't you understand that fact.

You're contesting a problem that hasn't thus far been raised in the context of this discussion.

You're also contesting a problem that is symptomatic of the disease, but not the disease itself.

That those billionaires exist at all is demonstrably a far greater and more pertinent problem than the billionaires themselves. This is evident in the fact that, if we change the system in a way that prevents billionaires from existing at all, and instead works to distribute that wealth to workers as an equitable wage instead of the whims- be it tax shelter, from the heart, or otherwise- of a small handful of those who get to control it- those billionaires may still be able to do vile things, but not to the tune of a billion dollars while thousands beneath them have to eek out a meager existence.

The demonstrably narrow view here, is to go after the lowest branch of fruit available: people who think rich people are greedy and evil.

The thing your contesting is a joke.

  

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50. "Great example: Your "rich people are greedy" link"
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Does not address the ethical problems with the existence of billionaires.

It's an absolutely useless entry to the discussion.

And, yet again, is a high-definition photograph that illustrates that you do not understand the ethical problems with the existence of billionaires.

  

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52. "Yes, there are ethical problems. I'm not debating ethical problems"
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I'm debating default character assumptions. But Carry in


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53. "You're debating an argument not presented in this thread"
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by anyone but yourself.

  

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55. "See my initial response. What are you arguing?"
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My initial post: "And people say there should be no Billionaires or that they are evil"

I'm responding to the people that have made bogus claims about my understanding of something that I never questioned or challenged. I posed a statement about the existence of Billionaires and then being evil. Folk ran with what they wanted. I clarified my comments after folks like you made up nonsense and tried to build a house on it.




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59. "You're responding to people who aren't here."
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grabbing the lowest hanging branch imaginable with each entry.

As of now, you've said (more or less)that you don't disagree with the larger issues I've presented, and are debating the argument from people who aren't in this poast that all billionaires are evil.

Even if the billionaire is the kindest, warmest, most charitable person imaginable, you're still ignoring that their very existence is symptomatic of the evil people who are actually here are talking about.

Which, again, illustrates that you don't quite get it.

  

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66. "Then why are you responding?"
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Again, arguing to be arguing.



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68. "It's a discussion, and i've been 100% on topic, in context,"
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and in detail.

You can write whatever you want in the header, and you can pretend all you want that that isn't the case- but your assertion doesn't match the facts of reality.

I've been substantive the entire time, addressing specific points, in detail.

You can dip, dodge, duck, divert and deflect all day, but that doesn't change reality.

  

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69. "Are we discussing anything or are you making accusations?"
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I stated my point and clarified the point. You seem to want to ignore that fact. I'm good.

Be Blessed.

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70. "If you were "good" you wouldn't keep responding "
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with these empty ass retorts

  

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61. "I came back to find this at 60 replies. I knew this thing had to be bamm..."
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lol

  

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62. "I highly doubt you read any of it. "
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But go ahead and cook

  

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72. "Recently gave away another $2.7billion"
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It's like Brewster's Millions at this point. She's trying to give it all away, but at the same time keeps getting richer

https://apnews.com/article/mackenzie-scott-donating-billions-8e06be7452b8c70f0d9802a6c10ca6a0


MacKenzie Scott, citing wealth gap, donates $2.7 billion

Scott, the billionaire philanthropist known for her impromptu multi-billion dollar donations to charities and racial equity causes, announced Tuesday, June 15, 2021, that she has given $2.7 billion to 286 organizations. It is the third round of major philanthropic gifts Scott has made, which together rival the charitable contributions made by the largest foundations. (Photo by Evan Agostini/Invision/AP, File)
MacKenzie Scott, the billionaire philanthropist known for her unexpected multi-billion dollar donations to charities and racial equity causes, announced Tuesday that she has given $2.7 billion to 286 organizations. It is the third round of no-strings-attached, major philanthropic gifts Scott has made, which together rival the charitable contributions made by the largest foundations.

Scott, the ex-wife of Amazon founder Jeff Bezos, wrote in a Medium post that she and her husband, Dan Jewett, made the donations to enable the recipients to continue their work and as a “signal of trust and encouragement” to them and others.

And she made clear in her announcement that she is troubled by the increasing concentration of vast wealth among a small proportion of individuals. She and Jewett worked with a team of researchers and philanthropy advisors “to give away a fortune that was enabled by systems in need of change.”

  

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legsdiamond
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73. "I had no idea she remarried"
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and its a fucking SCIENCE TEACHER from the same school Bill Gates and his kids all graduated from.

Its obvious they had an open marriage or an understanding but can you imagine going from 80K a year to bagging a Billionaire with generous pockets?

This dude is a fucking winner!!!

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74. "He's probably like: But do we have to get rid of ALL of it though?"
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legsdiamond
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75. "and then she tells him her bank account is like space"
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its constantly expanding

its Science!!!

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77. "And she's like: "We"? When did you start teaching French?"
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<-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><->
<-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><->

  

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81. "Right? What’s the Mackenzie equivalent of shooting in the gym?"
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I shudder to think, as it definitely involves Jeff when he still had that terrible hair.

  

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82. "Scott:$133million to educ. Bezos:Dismantles bridge for $500million yacht"
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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mackenzie-scott-communities-in-schools/

https://fortune.com/2022/02/03/jeff-bezos-historic-dutch-bridge-dismantled-koningshaven-rotterdam-500-million-superyacht/

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83. "A very Historical Black bridge tho.."
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