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PimpTrickGangstaClik
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"Poll question: How long is Trump going to haunt the US?"
Thu Nov-12-20 04:26 PM by PimpTrickGangstaClik

  

          

Obviously he's going to continue to try to stir shit up in his post presidency life. Probably get involved in the media business somehow (start his own network or be a major part of an existing one).

A question is, will he still have the juice years from now? Or will he fade into oblivion? Will it just be a blip in the history books?

After he dies, will Don Jr. be able to keep this Trump thing going? Papa Trump seems uniquely charismatic.

Will folks be flying MAGA flags and wearing Trump stuff in 2140? Talking about "The MAGA will rise again"?

Poll result (26 votes)
He'll be gone by November (i.e. disappear once the election is over) (0 votes)Vote
Until he dies (15 votes)Vote
Until his children die (1 votes)Vote
Forever (i.e. he turns into a confederacy type symbol) (10 votes)Vote

  

  

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How long did W haunt us?
Nov 12th 2020
1
But W sat his ass down lol
Nov 12th 2020
2
^ exactly.
Nov 12th 2020
7
^^^^^^
Nov 12th 2020
11
Trump was the best thing to ever happen to W
Nov 12th 2020
12
      Haha def. I've said this many times here and elsewhere.
Nov 12th 2020
15
154 civilians have been killed in Afghanistan this month
Nov 12th 2020
4
^ also correct.
Nov 12th 2020
8
fuck W
Nov 12th 2020
31
      Forever.
Nov 12th 2020
33
           and ever and ever.
Nov 14th 2020
83
Roger Stone (68) was a political operative that helped Nixon in 1972
Nov 12th 2020
3
^ also all facts.
Nov 12th 2020
9
ain’t he going to jail?
Nov 12th 2020
5
highly doubt it
Nov 12th 2020
6
I thought NY had a case?
Nov 12th 2020
16
For sure not.
Nov 12th 2020
10
Yeah, an ex-prez is the political version of 'too big to fail'
Nov 12th 2020
17
      Right. Like if any ex-prez were to go to jail it'd be him.
Nov 12th 2020
18
that shit will neeeeeeever happen. it sets a bad precedent.
Nov 12th 2020
40
If done correctly it could set a *good* precedent, IMO.
Nov 12th 2020
46
      at that level the only real lasting action is putting shame on a name.
Nov 13th 2020
54
      the fear just got real...
Nov 13th 2020
76
Bill Belichick kept his rings
Nov 12th 2020
45
      This right here. ^
Feb 23rd 2021
99
Don Jr can't carry that torch
Nov 12th 2020
13
I don't think he can either, but ..
Nov 12th 2020
19
Racism
Nov 12th 2020
21
unfortunately i think he's both
Nov 12th 2020
22
Sr. is charismatic
Nov 12th 2020
30
      I mean I guess ?
Nov 12th 2020
34
      Jr. is a poor copy and everyone knows it
Nov 12th 2020
43
           Yea very fair and probably true.
Nov 12th 2020
47
      I never found him interesting
Nov 12th 2020
39
      sure, there are plenty of old rich white assholes
Nov 12th 2020
44
      I keep hearing this and it puzzles me
Nov 13th 2020
64
           Exactly - same here.
Nov 13th 2020
72
From what I understand, he's a right-wing social media celebrity
Nov 12th 2020
24
name recognition goes a long way
Nov 12th 2020
26
      Agreed. She at least put on a good show at the RNC ..
Nov 12th 2020
35
Jr. has ZERO to say that isn't parroting his dad
Nov 12th 2020
32
True. Ivanka is the only one who gives me some worry
Nov 13th 2020
57
not to *us*. But to them?
Nov 13th 2020
61
nah that mf is a dweeb. the more he's on tv the more folks will realize
Nov 13th 2020
66
he'll get sick soon enough
Nov 12th 2020
14
LOL - how he's lasted this long is beyond comprehension.
Nov 12th 2020
20
      his energy level is legitimately weird to me
Nov 12th 2020
23
           Hahah right !
Nov 12th 2020
36
           His "energy" is deceiving
Nov 13th 2020
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                Oh i know he has 'exec time' and all that
Nov 13th 2020
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I mean, he'll try to stay in the spotlight forever.
Nov 12th 2020
25
LOL c'mon.
Nov 12th 2020
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      You seriously think he's above shilling dick pills for a buck?
Nov 13th 2020
48
           I think *he* thinks he's above that, no question.
Nov 13th 2020
59
                Absolutely.
Feb 18th 2021
92
Who is old enough to remember Lyndon LaRouche or Ralph Nader?
Nov 12th 2020
27
if he's too big to jail, is he too big to deplatform?
Nov 12th 2020
28
Whatever network he "starts," he'll have little to do with anything...
Nov 12th 2020
29
Haha I thought Nader ran as recently as like 2008.
Nov 12th 2020
38
Nader handed things over to Peter Camejo in '04
Nov 13th 2020
49
Remember LaRouche? He was never forgotten.
Nov 12th 2020
41
I once told a story about canvassing for Ralph Nader
Nov 13th 2020
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      lol thatta boy
Nov 13th 2020
73
He's 74 and not in good health
Nov 13th 2020
52
tea party was...2010?
Nov 12th 2020
42
He Will Be That Notible Stain On American History Like Nixon & Reagan
Nov 13th 2020
50
Basically.
Nov 13th 2020
53
What in the hell are you talking about
Nov 13th 2020
56
Reagonomics aka The Trickle-Down Theory
Nov 13th 2020
79
Is Reagan considered a stain ?
Nov 13th 2020
60
      None of these cats are stains to white republicans.
Nov 13th 2020
62
      right? even democrats are scared to trash Reagan
Nov 13th 2020
67
      Which weird, because you have to be in your mid-50s now...
Nov 13th 2020
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           RE: Which weird, because you have to be in your mid-50s now...
Nov 13th 2020
71
                Holy fucking shit.
Nov 13th 2020
74
                     you should check out the old maps, they're interesting
Nov 13th 2020
77
                          a trip how blue the south is pre civil-rights
Nov 14th 2020
81
                          Maine was like fuck FDR
Nov 14th 2020
82
      They love Reagan
Nov 13th 2020
68
           WILD.
Nov 13th 2020
75
Trump is the beginning of the end for this country
Nov 13th 2020
55
how do you figure?
Nov 13th 2020
70
      The clock on this American empire is running out.
Nov 14th 2020
80
           China's economy will eclipse the US economy in less than 10 yrs
Nov 14th 2020
84
Trump, schrump. He's just Republican Frieza's current form.
Nov 13th 2020
58
Trumpism is going to be influential a lot longer than Trump himself.
Nov 13th 2020
78
RE: Trumpism is going to be influential a lot longer than Trump himself.
Feb 23rd 2021
102
he's going to turn into a super villain and get a bald head
Nov 15th 2020
85
Trump lobs bomb at McConnell. He's trying to finish his takeover of the ...
Feb 16th 2021
86
so, none of the things Trump is? LOL
Feb 16th 2021
87
zero chance Trump know what "dour" means
Feb 17th 2021
88
he was the president. They all haunt us in one way or another
Feb 17th 2021
89
IMO he's Reagan on steroids. He's here for generations.
Feb 17th 2021
90
All very well said and true IMO.
Feb 17th 2021
91
Trump to proclaim he is presumptive 2024 GOP nominee at CPAC
Feb 23rd 2021
93
Jesus Christ this dude.
Feb 23rd 2021
94
the republican civil war was a mainstream media pipe dream.
Feb 23rd 2021
95
Still taking about Trump because they don't want to talk about...
Feb 23rd 2021
96
i voted for Biden and can talk about both. so, what's up?
Feb 23rd 2021
101
Pence speaks highly of Trump in meeting and plans to launch a political ...
Feb 23rd 2021
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Cuckkkkkkkk
Feb 23rd 2021
98
Dude literally encouraged his hanging in front of the Capitol
Feb 23rd 2021
100
      GOP is a big ass dysfunctional family
Feb 24th 2021
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      Not family just cowards
Feb 24th 2021
105
      Dude still thinks he's gonna be president one day. Like Nikki Haley.
Feb 24th 2021
106
Republicans again voting against their own best interest
Feb 24th 2021
103

legsdiamond
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1. "How long did W haunt us? "
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Remember when no k e would admit they voted for W or screamed about how they were now voting for Obama to correct their mistakes from 2000 and 2004?

I used to see a shit ton of Trump gear and flags by my job. 9 days after the election and I still haven’t seen a Trump flag or shirt up here on my lunch break or driving around the area.

It’s like they all went back under their rocks.

Now, Trump.. his old ass is running out of time. I think he is going to be the old crazy dude screaming about being robbed for the rest of his life but no one will care.

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PimpTrickGangstaClik
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2. "But W sat his ass down lol"
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He did damage. But he was quiet about it.
And after 2008, he just shows up for funerals.

Trump is a cult of personality. And he isn't shutting up.

  

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7. "^ exactly."
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11. "^^^^^^"
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All those old ass dumb ass Republicans that I thought I hated.....I have a whole new appreciation for them.

Trump is the worst human being in the world, as far as I’m concerned.

  

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12. "Trump was the best thing to ever happen to W"
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W was obviously a disastrous president who left lasting damage, but Trump's such a trash human being on every level that the general narrative around Bush now is that he was a bad president but a decent man.

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15. "Haha def. I've said this many times here and elsewhere."
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>W was obviously a disastrous president who left lasting
>damage, but Trump's such a trash human being on every level
>that the general narrative around Bush now is that he was a
>bad president but a decent man.

It's easy to forget just how historically awful and destructive the Bush admin was in light of the last 4 years for sure.

But there's arguments to be made that Bush did more damage on a human level than 45 did. I don't know if I'd personally make those arguments, necessarily, but I think there's a good argument to be made. Specifically about Iraq/the Middle East in general.

I think the financial crisis also helped W a lot on his way out, as the national focus was no longer on the disaster that was the ongoing Iraq War and his other numerous failures but instead on the financial industry and their transgressions. I also think the crash may have played a part in Obama's seeming disinterest in even passively criticizing his predecessor in any meaningful way, because he immediately had to work with the outgoing administration to try and save the world economy (which is a whole other discussion of course). Those two things combined allowed W to more or less sneak away from his horrific presidency unscathed and lurk in the shadows for a few years before he reemerged to show off his cute paintings and shit. Thus allowing him to sort of reinvent himself in light of the perhaps more sensational and headline-driving disaster that is 45 and his "administration."

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4. "154 civilians have been killed in Afghanistan this month"
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The window for casualties there is going to surpass Vietnam's 1955-1975(ish) in a little more than a year.

Trump's stupid coup attempt is pretty clearly trying to mimic the Brooks Brothers' Riot of 2000.

John Roberts, Brett Kavanagh, and Amy Coney Barrett all came up in the GOP ranks working on Bush vs. Gore lawsuits.

Gina Haspel, who almost certainly supervised actual torture, is now head of the CIA.

Suicide rate among veterans is ticking back up again over the last couple months.

People who didn't benefit from the "recovery" of the last recession are now suffering the worst under our present mess.

People from New Orleans can maybe weigh in with some more.

So, I think it's probably most appropriate to leave the door open on Bush's horrifying, deadly presidency.



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8. "^ also correct."
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31. "fuck W"
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33. "Forever."
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83. "and ever and ever."
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3. "Roger Stone (68) was a political operative that helped Nixon in 1972"
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Thu Nov-12-20 04:45 PM by MEAT

  

          

And that's just one operative and what they can do to America during an active career.

To take it further back we're intimately under the rule of the the Hayes Compromise of 1877.

With Trump pulling up downballot Republicans resulting in loss of statehouses combined with a destroyed Census which will allow ruthless gerrymandering in ways we can't imagine.

Trump will easily haunt the US for over hundred years.

And that's before we talk about the land sales and climate change damage he's caused.

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9. "^ also all facts."
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Thu Nov-12-20 05:42 PM by Brew

          

Just like Bush, the damage he's done has consequences that will span decades if not a century.

Biden and any prez after him have their work cut out for them to even *begin* to undue this shit. And it'll be an uphill battle until McConnell dies or gets murdered.


>RE: Roger Stone (68) was a political operative that helped Nixon in 1972
>And that's just one operative and what they can do to America
>during an active career.
>
>To take it further back we're intimately under the rule of the
>the Hayes Compromise of 1877.
>
>With Trump pulling up downballot Republicans resulting in loss
>of statehouses combined with a destroyed Census which will
>allow ruthless gerrymandering in ways we can't imagine.
>
>Trump will easily haunt the US for over hundred years.
>
>And that's before we talk about the land sales and climate
>change damage he's caused.

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5. "ain’t he going to jail? "
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6. "highly doubt it"
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would love to be proven wrong though

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16. "I thought NY had a case? "
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10. "For sure not."
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I mean, I hope to gawd to be proven wrong.

But I don't see it. Never happened before.

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17. "Yeah, an ex-prez is the political version of 'too big to fail'"
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Particularly an ex-prez with this citizen identity cult. Likewise would love to see it, but it just ain't happening, I gotta assume.

  

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18. "Right. Like if any ex-prez were to go to jail it'd be him."
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Because a lot the crimes he's being investigated for took place both before he was prez or are/were kind of adjacent to the presidency even if they happened during his term. So I leave *some* room for the possibility of him being locked up, whereas I wouldn't have ever considered it with any prior prez.

But nah - I just don't see it.

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40. "that shit will neeeeeeever happen. it sets a bad precedent. "
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is it fucked up? yes.

aint gonna happen.

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Brew
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46. "If done correctly it could set a *good* precedent, IMO."
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It'd be one thing if the Biden admin were to pursue aggressive post-presidency litigation or action against 45. *That* would be unprecedented and possibly backfire on dems/progressives.

But if the litigation were "apolitical," from SDNY et al, re: all his pre-presidency bullshit i.e. taxes, money laundering, charity fraud, etc. ? That would set a *great* precedent IMO.

It would hold an ex-prez accountable while not appearing super-partisan.

The chances of any of this happening are non-existent, IMO for the record lol. Just saying I think theoretically it would set a GREAT precedent if he were to be indicted for some of his bullshit post-prez.

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54. "at that level the only real lasting action is putting shame on a name. "
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i.e., "Hitler", that name has to be buried in dirt for a long long time.

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76. "the fear just got real..."
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this guy has nothing to lose

  

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45. "Bill Belichick kept his rings"
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the ruling class would never sacrifice one of their own to appease us

because that meant it could happen to them

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99. "This right here. ^"
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13. "Don Jr can't carry that torch"
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Trump's been in our lives and in our faces forever.

There's literally nothing unique or interesting bout Junior outside of his name.

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19. "I don't think he can either, but .."
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.. what was unique or interesting about Sr. ? He's not particularly funny, definitely not a good person, has never been as rich as he's claimed to be, has never said anything particularly interesting or thoughtful ...

.. so how the hell did he remain relevant for all these years/decades ?

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21. "Racism"
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>.. so how the hell did he remain relevant for all these
>years/decades ?

He has appealed to broke, racist hicks because they hate the same people.

  

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22. "unfortunately i think he's both"
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>.. what was unique or interesting about Sr. ? He's not
>particularly funny, definitely not a good person, has never
>been as rich as he's claimed to be, has never said anything
>particularly interesting or thoughtful ...
>
>.. so how the hell did he remain relevant for all these
>years/decades ?

i think this is part of what makes him unique and interesting, how this racist carnival barker pretend rich guy reality show, serial liar with his name on everything who shits in a gold toilet took hijacked a political party (albiet trash people themselves) and lined up half the country behind him like a religious cult. of course he's a terrible person, and i'll celebrate every bad thing that happens to him, but it doesn't make him not interesting lol.

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30. "Sr. is charismatic"
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he is. even as repulsive as I find him, he has a way of speaking that makes people listen.

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34. "I mean I guess ?"
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But Jr's doing the same shtick that Sr is, isn't he ? Like both of them are "charismatic" in the sense that they say outrageous shit.

So why did Sr's "charisma" stick but Jr's doesn't ?

I don't see a ton of daylight between them, personally. But maybe my rabid hatred for Sr is tainting my perspective.

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43. "Jr. is a poor copy and everyone knows it"
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he doesn't have any original thoughts and follows his dad for the attention he probably never received.

nobody would care about Jr. if he had a different name. and nobody cares about his thoughts, independent of his father. the fact his own dad passed him over for his daughter and son-in-law is indictment enough.

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47. "Yea very fair and probably true."
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>he doesn't have any original thoughts and follows his dad for
>the attention he probably never received.

His dad has hated him a long time so he parrots him to get attention.

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39. "I never found him interesting "
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He was always just some rich, old, asshole to me. Or “rich”, it appears.

Couldn’t have cared less about whatever reality show he was on. Thought it was a bad joke or something when he started trying to make his name in politics off Obama, and wrote it off as a typical Republican old, white asshole. Dime a dozen.

He’s legit never said or done anything I found interesting.

  

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44. "sure, there are plenty of old rich white assholes"
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but Trump is certainly a magnetic character for reasons people smarter than me could extrapolate -- when he talks, people listen

he has maintained a position in the public eye, decade after decade

his political rise was a crystallization of that for many reasons

(and of course charisma is not tied to morality; Hitler existed)

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64. "I keep hearing this and it puzzles me"
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maybe I have the wrong definition of charisma but he talks very weirdly, isn't funny and doesn't have that seductive vibe that I associate with a charismatic person

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72. "Exactly - same here."
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Maybe it's our bias coloring our views here but, I found Clinton and Obama SUPER charismatic.

Trump not at all.


>maybe I have the wrong definition of charisma but he talks
>very weirdly, isn't funny and doesn't have that seductive vibe
>that I associate with a charismatic person

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24. "From what I understand, he's a right-wing social media celebrity"
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But in terms of the national/global stage, not nearly enough people give a fuck about him to do anything politically. I don't care how much "grooming" Kimberley Guilfoyle is apparently doing with him, he not compelling as a political candidate.

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26. "name recognition goes a long way"
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he's not even good at trolling.
i think Guilfoyle's crazy ass has more of a future. not necessarily in office but as star among the deplorables.

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35. "Agreed. She at least put on a good show at the RNC .."
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.. with her creepy hero worship. In contrast w/Jr's coked up bullshit.

I mean she was probably/obviously yipped out of her skull too but at least she embarrassed herself in a marketable way lol

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32. "Jr. has ZERO to say that isn't parroting his dad"
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his blustering while he grasps at any approval from father as the eldest child is sad to watch

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57. "True. Ivanka is the only one who gives me some worry"
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she seems smart


but that also could be because i'm comparing her to the rest of the trump clan. next to a drooling shitbird like Eric we all look presidential

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61. "not to *us*. But to them?"
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He doesn't need to "carry" anything.

He just needs to feed the same crazy, and he's already gaining real time practice in doing that.

No matter how many tweets backfire, there's no amount of fact checking that will get in the way of their good story.

He can say incredibly stupid things that get shown up in real time, but none of that shit matters because he's not speaking to us. That shit works like a charm on the intended audience.

He may not have the charisma, celebrity, and market saturation of his daddy, but he doesn't need it. And that's the real problem now:

They've amassed plenty of worker bees to carry that torch. Even if he isn't The Guy, he'll be *A* guy, and he'll be a significant enough voice for that movement.

Bill O'Reilly's career died abruptly.... and Tucker Carlson slid right in. Hannity and Ingrahm helped fill the void, and gained in the process.

Every last one of these motherfuckers, from the titans to the minions, is dangerous.

  

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66. "nah that mf is a dweeb. the more he's on tv the more folks will realize"
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say what you want about Senior but he got the juice.

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14. "he'll get sick soon enough"
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you can only eat whoppers and snort adderall daily for so long

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20. "LOL - how he's lasted this long is beyond comprehension."
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23. "his energy level is legitimately weird to me"
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if i eat Jack i the Box right now, i'll be exhausted for 2 hours.
i know he gets these moments where he can't walk down a ramp but he rarely looks tired. i thought covid would have a field day on him even with the best care, but he skated through that like a 2 day cold.

but not just physically, even just how he can keep up this level of chaos and malice ALL the fucking time. its not the least bit emotionally draining to him i guess because he's a sociopath.

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36. "Hahah right !"
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>if i eat Jack i the Box right now, i'll be exhausted for 2
>hours.
>i know he gets these moments where he can't walk down a ramp
>but he rarely looks tired. i thought covid would have a field
>day on him even with the best care, but he skated through that
>like a 2 day cold.
>
>but not just physically, even just how he can keep up this
>level of chaos and malice ALL the fucking time. its not the
>least bit emotionally draining to him i guess because he's a
>sociopath.

I suppose if all you do is lie for 50+ years and get away with it, the pressure's off. Where's the stress ?

But yea that diet and coke/Adderall habit should've killed his weak ass by now regardless of the low life stress.

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51. "His "energy" is deceiving"
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It's more mental than physical.

Meaning, he can probably talk/argue for hours but probably couldn't walk a mile without a break.

Plus he takes alot of vacations and allegedly schedules hours of "executive time" (i.e. chill time) into his daily calendar.

I saw some meme that said he looks like he's barely aged in 4 years. A big part of that (beyond the makeup and already being old when he became president) is he isn't actually doing much work and so he isn't nearly as stressed as past presidents.

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63. "Oh i know he has 'exec time' and all that "
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but just eating fast food and watching tv makes most people *more* tired.

plus even the ability to talk/argue/lie relentlessly should be mentally exhausting for a normal person lol.

there's absolutely zero concept of the weight of his position. it doesn't drain him or age him. So you're right that his stress level only kicks up at things like Fox fact checking him, but things that happen to people who aren't him like 240k dead americans, is just background noise.

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25. "I mean, he'll try to stay in the spotlight forever."
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He'll try to make TrumpTV work. When that inevitably gets run into the ground, he'll try some other grift. I figure we're three years top before he becomes a spokesperson for Viagra or some other pharmaceutical.

And even after his brain turns to complete mush due to dementia, his kids will pimp him for appearance fees/product endorsements until he croaks.

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37. "LOL c'mon."
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>He'll try to make TrumpTV work. When that inevitably gets run
>into the ground, he'll try some other grift. I figure we're
>three years top before he becomes a spokesperson for Viagra or
>some other pharmaceutical.
>
>And even after his brain turns to complete mush due to
>dementia, his kids will pimp him for appearance fees/product
>endorsements until he croaks.

I hope/assume you're kidding.

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48. "You seriously think he's above shilling dick pills for a buck?"
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Bob Dole did ads for Viagra.

If it gets to the point where Drumf needs the money and or the attention, he'd do that shit so fast your eyes would cross.

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59. "I think *he* thinks he's above that, no question."
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92. "Absolutely."
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And he's radioactive. No pharma company will have him.

  

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27. "Who is old enough to remember Lyndon LaRouche or Ralph Nader?"
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Them dudes ran for President for like 20 years.

Trump will be bigger of course. I don't think he has the wherewithal to start a cable network but he probably will start a digital network and charge like 6 month a get like 5 million subscribers....damn, that's good money. He might be around a while but I think he will be just like a bigger Alex Jones...we need someone to throw him in jail.

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28. "if he's too big to jail, is he too big to deplatform?"
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like, will jack have the balls to pull the plug on him?

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29. "Whatever network he "starts," he'll have little to do with anything..."
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...day to day. That's if someone fronts him the money to be NewsMax or OANN, or he talks someone into lending him the money for a digital platform. He'll hire people (and not pay them), while he'll give daily addresses. At least until he ends in house arrest in Mar-A-Lago or his brain turns completely into tapioca.

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38. "Haha I thought Nader ran as recently as like 2008."
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>Them dudes ran for President for like 20 years.
>
>Trump will be bigger of course. I don't think he has the
>wherewithal to start a cable network but he probably will
>start a digital network and charge like 6 month a get like 5
>million subscribers....damn, that's good money. He might be
>around a while but I think he will be just like a bigger Alex
>Jones...we need someone to throw him in jail.

Yea like I said in another post above (or maybe another post altogether) - the only hope is that those SDNY cases or any number of other pre-presidency or not-related-to-the-presidency cases are far enough along that as soon as he's dragged out of the WH they can start really getting @ him.

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49. "Nader handed things over to Peter Camejo in '04"
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Camejo was actually pretty smart; he was a California guy who ran for Governor during the recall fiasco. He died shortly thereafter. And no, I didn't vote for him either time.

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41. "Remember LaRouche? He was never forgotten. "
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pre-covid my office was in the fox news building, I used to see LaRouche people outside all the time, and trump folks which was...weird.

Which reminds me. Back in 2000 election when Nader was running, (I was young and into his shtick which is why I didnt jump on Bernie - it felt too familiar.) and while crossing a table of LaRouche supporters running outreach outside of a postoffice they asked who i was voting for, when I said Nader the guy at the table suddenly looked like he smelled shit and said "Nader?! That syphilitic parasite has the worst ideas. HE IS THE WORST". People turned to see the commotion while all having a look that seemed to ask "what the fuck is going on and what the fuck did you ask that man?". I'll never forget that.

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65. "I once told a story about canvassing for Ralph Nader "
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It was the early 90’s. I was looking for summer work in NYC while staying with my sister in BK. Went to this “interview” and this woman was so fine I ended up in Staten Island knocking on doors with her for Nader.

Didn’t give a shit about politics or even know who he was at the time. Total waste of 18 hours.

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73. "lol thatta boy"
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>It was the early 90’s. I was looking for summer work in NYC
>while staying with my sister in BK. Went to this
>“interview” and this woman was so fine I ended up in
>Staten Island knocking on doors with her for Nader.
>
>Didn’t give a shit about politics or even know who he was at
>the time. Total waste of 18 hours.

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52. "He's 74 and not in good health"
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I think he stays "relevant" for another 4 years to tease another run and then he mostly fades away.

He'll be revered like Reagan for a generation though

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42. "tea party was...2010? "
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aint nothing new under the sun. BUT, trump really did introduce some new shit to the culture war.

I don't think of Trump as an aberration but a mutation of what went down in the previous decade. So, hes going to haunt the US for a long long LONG time. My kids kids will be haunted by the sort of tactics he introduced but only the methods will be louder and more intense.

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50. "He Will Be That Notible Stain On American History Like Nixon & Reagan"
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Nobody will forget how he reverted this country to some old cracker 50's type nation shit, and now other countries that use to see us as an ally now don't trust us since half this country still supported t.rump's views, it will be that speed bump of negativity in the white house like Nixon & Reagan rep is but worst.


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53. "Basically. "
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I know his policies and judges will have an impact but personally? I think dude is going to fade quick because he’s a loser now... and he hates being a loser.

Interested to see if he throws these rallies or just plays his base with asking for donations to fight this election.

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56. "What in the hell are you talking about"
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We live under Nixon's war on drugs today
We live with the economic impacts to unions and the tax issues from Reagan today.


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79. "Reagonomics aka The Trickle-Down Theory"
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"Reagonomics" is basically what republicans been preaching ever since he came up with this idea that if you give tax breaks to the rich then they will pass that along to the middle class and then the poor aka that "trickle down theory", which has never worked and only puts money in the pockets of the rich cause republicans always come with tax breaks for the rich.

We had the Iran-Contra scandal, and pouring money to terrorist ran countries & shit.

Reagan & his wife came up that dumb ass "War On Drugs" shit, and ever since then we've had more drugs smuggled in this country year after year.

He tried to get rid of the Department of Education by defunding it as much as possible, and even lower the standards of the EPA and even ignored the AIDs epidemic (is any of this sounding familiar to you all?).

The reason why repubs and white people love him is the same reason why they now loving t.rump, a stain that won't go away so easily.


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60. "Is Reagan considered a stain ?"
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I thought (white) people loved him.

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62. "None of these cats are stains to white republicans. "
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>I thought (white) people loved him.

When we talk about him being a stain, we're not talking about whether he's a stain to them, anymore than Hitler is a stain to Nazi's.

  

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67. "right? even democrats are scared to trash Reagan"
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69. "Which weird, because you have to be in your mid-50s now..."
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...to have even to be eligible to vote for him. And really, you're probably in your 70s or 80s by this point.

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71. "RE: Which weird, because you have to be in your mid-50s now..."
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The Reagan electoral map of 1984 has a large part into that

http://i.ebayimg.com/images/i/280700673050-0-1/s-l1000.jpg

Look at the world that regular people and elected officials got their start in

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-osBmkyfwvDU/WDMZhPTmBdI/AAAAAAAADys/mnO9P8m2XG4-Xd7xqEruBnJ6AfyyzXpcACLcB/s640/presidential-election-results-1952-2012.png

And it's not until 1992 that you get a Dem someone who's willing to trade on appealing to white resentment with charisma that things start to turn blue.

The reasons for that are myriad, but the lessons learned are clear ... always appeal to the worst parts of white people, but say it in a language that they don't feel embarrassed by it.

Hence, Reagan being deified by people as a standard bearer for how to appeal to this country.

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74. "Holy fucking shit."
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>The Reagan electoral map of 1984 has a large part into that
>
>http://i.ebayimg.com/images/i/280700673050-0-1/s-l1000.jpg

I always heard and knew that Reagan won in a "landslide" in that election but ... holy fucking fuck "landslide" doesn't do that justice.

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77. "you should check out the old maps, they're interesting"
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https://www.270towin.com/historical-presidential-elections/

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81. "a trip how blue the south is pre civil-rights"
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and then Carter sweeping it in 76

that whole nixon silent majority thing in 72 had me scared for this election. if he handled covid well of course the map wouldn't look like nixon/reagan/fdr but he would have skated pretty easily.

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82. "Maine was like fuck FDR"
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68. "They love Reagan"
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anytime I bring up taxes they act like he never raised them. It’s amazing.

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75. "WILD."
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He was objectively awful on a number of levels. Crazy how people lionize him.

But, #whitefolks, of course.


>anytime I bring up taxes they act like he never raised them.
>It’s amazing.

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55. "Trump is the beginning of the end for this country"
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it just is. I'm at peace with it. Just watching the show now. He has no shame or moral compass, he's actually whiteness personified.

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70. "how do you figure? "
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he was bad but come on. he wasnt the worst thing ever. he was a reminder that the stability and chaos were always in a delicate balance, that stability should never be taken for granted, that racism was never over, that the goal of the few is to control the many, that they don't give a fuck about us (us in the case having dual purpose to mean black people and all US citizens.).

we're (the US) savages, never forget that. we've done a lot of deeply evil shit to maintain dominance. when I say we I mean we're all complicit and implicated...but its also impossible to not crush the crickets in the grass when you live in the tank thats rolling over the landscape.


Trump is not the world that birthed his ascension, hes just an element within it. He didnt invent or cause the all of horrific shit happening in our country, he only added to the pile and did not help.

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80. "The clock on this American empire is running out."
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Throughout history they have always fallen eventually. It's happening and we're living through it.

  

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84. "China's economy will eclipse the US economy in less than 10 yrs"
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and that is when it will start falling down frfr.

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58. "Trump, schrump. He's just Republican Frieza's current form. "
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Trump is absolutely emblematic, but he's just the current human host for that particular, parasitic, hive-minded evil.

That parasite keeps evolving, improving it's ability to find a new and more effective host.

And it's already evolving past Trump. Trump laid eggs, and those eggs have been hatching throughout his term. Among them? QA*** (yeah I don't even like typing that shit). But shit like that has always existed. Trump just happened to be the perfect mouthpiece to maximize the effect.

And now, that parasitic hive-mind has evolved to a point where it's now biting the hand that's fed it the last 30 years. Because, apparently, even Fox news- the curator, incubator, provider, leader, mother, father, is now too liberal.

Even Fox is now too far left:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iK08mv57Mt0

Trump pushed them to a point where FOX is just too damn liberal.

Trump either create something of his own, something that WILL be successful, or he and his sycophants will help OAN grow into a far bigger, more impactful, more insidious beast that will, in fact, make Fox look like a leftist organization by comparison, in much the way GWB now looks, on the surface, at least, like a decent human being and president, compared to Trump.

This thing will take some other form. This parasitic hive-mind will find some other host, or multiple hosts, and we'll have to battle that too.

  

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78. "Trumpism is going to be influential a lot longer than Trump himself."
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102. "RE: Trumpism is going to be influential a lot longer than Trump himself."
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Thank you.

  

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86. "Trump lobs bomb at McConnell. He's trying to finish his takeover of the ..."
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But if you come after the king, you better not miss.

This might be the start of the GOP proxy war. I'd think Mitch got all kinds of weapons at his disposal. Trump gonna mess around and find out

https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/16/politics/trump-mcconnell/index.html

"Mitch is a dour, sullen, and unsmiling political hack, and if Republican Senators are going to stay with him, they will not win again," Trump said in the statement. "He will never do what needs to be done, or what is right for our Country. Where necessary and appropriate, I will back primary rivals who espouse Making America Great Again and our policy of America First. We want brilliant, strong, thoughtful, and compassionate leadership."

  

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87. "so, none of the things Trump is? LOL"
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We want brilliant, strong, thoughtful, and
>compassionate leadership."

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88. "zero chance Trump know what "dour" means"
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89. "he was the president. They all haunt us in one way or another"
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America has imported more warlord theocracy from Afghanistan than it has exported democracy.

  

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90. "IMO he's Reagan on steroids. He's here for generations."
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My standing opinion of him is that he got elected by tapping into, normalizing, and emboldening the worst sentiments of his base- mostly whites, but, anecdotally speaking, also to a shocking amount of Hispanics.

People tell me that he didn't normalize anything, that this sort of racism has always been there, and I disagree with that.

This racism has always been there, but in my life time, I have not seen it this bold, this open, by so many people. The quiet parts are said out loud, and nobody is looking around the corner first. That doesn't make the racism itself any better or worse, but I do think that the brazen displays that are given in his name are indicative of a "green light", so to speak, and that's what I mean by "normalize".

The more he escapes real consequences, the more his base believes that the same applies to them- and it has. Thus, they are emboldened.

His name is, pun unintended but all too appropriate, their trump card. He's as close to a religious figure as I've ever seen a politician, literally worshiped by his base. The people who stormed the Capitol did so for him, in his name, and at his call.

He was, they thought, their permission slip. Not even a get out of jail free card, because it's clear that these people were convinced going in that jail wasn't even a remote possibility.

He has undermined the press to a degree I can't recall happening in my lifetime.

He made "alternative facts" acceptable, and he's essentially the patron saint of conspiracy theorists and snake oil salesmen all across this country. Q*** was a LARP that succeeded primarily due to the blind hero worship of this guy.

Yeah, mental illness, yeah, lack of education, etc- but these are things he catered too. Remember, he loves the uneducated.

Q*** also succeeded in part due to the quarantines due to the pandemic- the length and depth of which he is directly responsible for.

He's also undermined the integrity of elections to a frightening degree, and while we got a W this election with the Pres and the Senate, we got saddled with some of his truly horrifying sycophants in the process.

I think this is so deeply rooted that it's reinvigorated the Deplorables to the point where the prior GOP basket looks downright acceptable by comparison- but only by comparison.

So even with the GOP being somewhat split, they're still the same basket of deplorables. The difference is, that basket is now a bag of bad apples, rotten apples, fermenting pruno, and the MAGAts that have been energized by it all. It's still the same old devils, except the demons have gotten some upgrades.

And even with Orange losing his ass over and over and over and over and over again, he still presents a serious threat- because the people who had the power to shut him down for real not only refused to do so, they straight up aided and abetted- even after they damn near got killed by his insurrection attempt.

His Tinfoil Army, when he lost, barely waivered. Most of them just shifted the goalpost. And when March 4th passes and Orange STILL isn't the president, they'll just shift again.

That brand of deplorable has illustrated time and again that they don't die. They just get worse.

This motherfucker is on some supervillain shit.

I don't think this just fades away. I think we're a long, hard road away from him or his influence going anywhere.

  

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91. "All very well said and true IMO."
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>My standing opinion of him is that he got elected by tapping
>into, normalizing, and emboldening the worst sentiments of his
>base- mostly whites, but, anecdotally speaking, also to a
>shocking amount of Hispanics.
>
>People tell me that he didn't normalize anything, that this
>sort of racism has always been there, and I disagree with
>that.
>
>This racism has always been there, but in my life time, I have
>not seen it this bold, this open, by so many people. The quiet
>parts are said out loud, and nobody is looking around the
>corner first. That doesn't make the racism itself any better
>or worse, but I do think that the brazen displays that are
>given in his name are indicative of a "green light", so to
>speak, and that's what I mean by "normalize".
>
>The more he escapes real consequences, the more his base
>believes that the same applies to them- and it has. Thus, they
>are emboldened.
>
>His name is, pun unintended but all too appropriate, their
>trump card. He's as close to a religious figure as I've ever
>seen a politician, literally worshiped by his base. The people
>who stormed the Capitol did so for him, in his name, and at
>his call.
>
>He was, they thought, their permission slip. Not even a get
>out of jail free card, because it's clear that these people
>were convinced going in that jail wasn't even a remote
>possibility.
>
>He has undermined the press to a degree I can't recall
>happening in my lifetime.
>
>He made "alternative facts" acceptable, and he's essentially
>the patron saint of conspiracy theorists and snake oil
>salesmen all across this country. Q*** was a LARP that
>succeeded primarily due to the blind hero worship of this guy.
>
>
>Yeah, mental illness, yeah, lack of education, etc- but these
>are things he catered too. Remember, he loves the uneducated.
>
>Q*** also succeeded in part due to the quarantines due to the
>pandemic- the length and depth of which he is directly
>responsible for.
>
>He's also undermined the integrity of elections to a
>frightening degree, and while we got a W this election with
>the Pres and the Senate, we got saddled with some of his truly
>horrifying sycophants in the process.
>
>I think this is so deeply rooted that it's reinvigorated the
>Deplorables to the point where the prior GOP basket looks
>downright acceptable by comparison- but only by comparison.
>
>So even with the GOP being somewhat split, they're still the
>same basket of deplorables. The difference is, that basket is
>now a bag of bad apples, rotten apples, fermenting pruno, and
>the MAGAts that have been energized by it all. It's still the
>same old devils, except the demons have gotten some upgrades.
>
>And even with Orange losing his ass over and over and over and
>over and over again, he still presents a serious threat-
>because the people who had the power to shut him down for real
>not only refused to do so, they straight up aided and abetted-
>even after they damn near got killed by his insurrection
>attempt.
>
>His Tinfoil Army, when he lost, barely waivered. Most of them
>just shifted the goalpost. And when March 4th passes and
>Orange STILL isn't the president, they'll just shift again.
>
>That brand of deplorable has illustrated time and again that
>they don't die. They just get worse.
>
>This motherfucker is on some supervillain shit.
>
>I don't think this just fades away. I think we're a long, hard
>road away from him or his influence going anywhere.

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93. "Trump to proclaim he is presumptive 2024 GOP nominee at CPAC"
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Good.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-to-claim-he-is-presumptive-2024-nominee-leader-of-gop-in-cpac-speech-report

  

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94. "Jesus Christ this dude."
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I hope SDNY can make its moves to get this fucking megalomaniac out the paint for good. McConnell's coward ass probably hoping the same thing

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95. "the republican civil war was a mainstream media pipe dream."
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this is trumps party.

the anti-trump faction lost the war for the soul of the party long ago. and the base reminds them of that every time they think they got an opening.

almost half of republican voters said they would leave the party and follow trump if he went independent. the amount of people who would stay in the republican party is the same amount as people who are undecided lol.
https://twitter.com/MeetThePress/status/1363509902329667587

even repubs who were criticizing trump a week or two ago like nikki haley are now tripping over themselves to try to fly to mar a lago and kiss his ass.

the majority of republican voters lowkey hate their party. they just hate liberals, minorities, gays, poor people, etc even more.

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96. "Still taking about Trump because they don't want to talk about..."
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...Biden.

I'm talking about people that voted for Biden. They *still* rather keep bringing up Trump than talk about the current president.

  

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101. "i voted for Biden and can talk about both. so, what's up?"
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Biden isn't a progressive, therefore isn't doing much of the shit i'd really like to see but i'm not disappointed cuz i didn't need him to be a progressive..i needed him to be 'stabilizing', and he is

Trump is a part of a transnational crime cult that infiltrated and underminded the US government, right in front of our faces, while openly being white surpremacist and encouraging/egging on cops to beat the fuck out of black people, while robbing the country to pay his rich friends..and imma keep talking about that conniving, criminal, racist, raping, corrupt, fraudulent, traitorous eyesore until the day he dies and is no longer a threat.

so again, what's up?

what you want US to talk about?

you on some QAnon shit, or what?

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97. "Pence speaks highly of Trump in meeting and plans to launch a political ..."
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https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/23/politics/trump-pence-congress/index.html

Former Vice President Mike Pence told a group of conservative lawmakers on Tuesday that he maintains a close personal friendship with former President Donald Trump, while noting that he plans to launch a political organization that will defend their administration's record over the past four years.

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98. "Cuckkkkkkkk"
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vik
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100. "Dude literally encouraged his hanging in front of the Capitol"
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I do but I don't understand this shit.

He's speaking at CPAC this weekend and has all of these GOPers flying down to Florida to kiss the ring ... shit is bananas and has been for years.

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legsdiamond
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104. "GOP is a big ass dysfunctional family"
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but they are a family none the less..

reminds me of my uncles who were brothers. They would argue and come to blows at the bar every weekend.. but anyone who jumped in to defend one of them would end up getting jumped by the other brother.

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Lurkmode
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105. "Not family just cowards"
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They will bounce the min stupid voters stop being extremely stupid.

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106. "Dude still thinks he's gonna be president one day. Like Nikki Haley."
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I definitely don't want this to happen in our reality but I would love to peek into 2024 in an alternate dimension and see Pence's soul leave his body when Trump tears into him on a debate stage for the Republican nomination.

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Cold Truth
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103. "Republicans again voting against their own best interest"
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Up to and including literal death threats.

Supporting brown people, women, LGBTQ people, the poor, etc, or even doing anything that could potentially harm the GOP ability to continue to marginalize them, is a deal breaker- even if their own lives are at risk.

  

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