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legsdiamond
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"Poll question: You getting the Covid vaccine or nah"


          

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/09/health/pfizer-covid-19-vaccine-effective/index.html

Just heard the good news. I put on my tin foil fitted and tipped my cap to the conspiracy gawds.

I hope this news makes Trump fans shit a brick sideways.

Poll result (45 votes)
Hell yeah (33 votes)Vote
Hell nah (11 votes)Vote
I’m Bshelly (1 votes)Vote

  

  

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Subject Author Message Date ID
No.
Nov 09th 2020
1
not from Pfizer and not under Trump
Nov 09th 2020
2
90% effective - YES I WILL
Nov 09th 2020
3
If it passes all regulation. And docs/scientists say I should, of course
Nov 09th 2020
4
I keep seeing people talking about "Biden's going to vax us all!"
Nov 09th 2020
5
Pfizer said it wasn’t part of warp speed
Nov 09th 2020
12
they weren't planning on getting vax'd anyway bc it's all a hoax to them
Nov 09th 2020
19
yeah. after yall tho.
Nov 09th 2020
6
lol when u not looking, imma get behind you in line!
Nov 09th 2020
7
      im fine w/ that i just cant be first lol.
Nov 09th 2020
17
I am a bit skeptical because of Trump's involvement
Nov 09th 2020
8
what involvement? they weren't a part of 'operation warp speed'
Nov 09th 2020
11
      Operation Warp Speed only covers distribution, not design of the vaccine...
Nov 09th 2020
15
I'll have to do whatever my employer decides smh
Nov 09th 2020
9
Is that legal?
Nov 09th 2020
10
      if you work in the food or medical industry probably so
Nov 09th 2020
14
      yes, if its for the safety of the general public.
Nov 09th 2020
28
      my employment is in an at will state
Nov 10th 2020
39
MAYBE when it gets FDA approval
Nov 09th 2020
13
hell yeahhhhhh....
Nov 09th 2020
16
dont know if i trust the FDA
Nov 09th 2020
18
i love the timing of this...rgt after the election so it doesnt benefit
Nov 09th 2020
20
nah...
Nov 09th 2020
21
You're god damn right I am
Nov 09th 2020
22
as long at it's trial'd out and there's no nutty side effects.
Nov 09th 2020
23
It’s time for the anti vax crowd to shine
Nov 09th 2020
24
election over and these mfs still lying their ass off.
Nov 09th 2020
25
Cheeto has be livid that this didn't Pfizer didn't have Comey timing
Nov 09th 2020
27
      pence is praising trump while jr is screaming conspiracy.
Nov 09th 2020
30
           Trump Jr: They cost us the election! Trump Jr: We won the election!
Nov 10th 2020
33
If enough people/orgs I trust cosign it, yes
Nov 09th 2020
26
I mean.. I’m not trying to be the first one to get it
Nov 09th 2020
29
if you're not in a high-risk group, what are the chances
Nov 09th 2020
31
we need to rethink who we are classifying as high risk tho
Nov 09th 2020
32
anybody high risk
Nov 10th 2020
38
high risk for what? dying? man, covid does more than kill you.
Nov 10th 2020
35
I'm not downplaying covid.
Nov 10th 2020
37
I think my demo is round 3 or 4....if not later
Nov 16th 2020
42
I'll give it a few weeks at least
Nov 10th 2020
34
I'm fucking cynical and I blame Trump
Nov 10th 2020
36
I love how these vaccines were announced right after the election
Nov 16th 2020
40
RE: I love how these vaccines were announced right after the election
Nov 16th 2020
41
how much would you pay to get it first?
Nov 16th 2020
43
0, i have no desire to be in front of that line
Nov 16th 2020
44
RE: 0, i have no desire to be in front of that line
Nov 16th 2020
45
      ^^^factuals
Nov 17th 2020
49
      ^^This right here
Dec 04th 2020
58
a family member is a doctor and says she wont get it...
Dec 04th 2020
55
Depends on if the zombies are fast or slow.
Nov 16th 2020
46
Moderna's is 94% effective
Nov 17th 2020
47
hell yeah
Nov 17th 2020
48
Damn, we want to travel as well
Nov 17th 2020
50
Obama, Clinton, and Bush say they'll get vaccine on TV to build confiden...
Dec 03rd 2020
51
Not a drop touched that man's lips, lol
Dec 04th 2020
53
      there was MORE liquid in that cup AFTER he "sipped" lol...
Dec 04th 2020
54
Of course
Dec 04th 2020
52
Most likely everyone here isn’t getting access to the first few rounds...
Dec 04th 2020
56
right regular folks probably won't get until late spring/early summer
Dec 04th 2020
57
^^^^^ Exactly. By the time I’m able to get it, it will be
Dec 05th 2020
62
I'm participating in a clinical trial, so there's a 50% chance
Dec 04th 2020
59
what made you decide to participate?
Dec 05th 2020
63
My wife is friends with the principal investigator
Dec 05th 2020
64
      thanks for the info.
Dec 07th 2020
73
      How does the trial work? After you get the vaccine or placebo,
Dec 08th 2020
75
           I mostly just live my life
Dec 08th 2020
77
                Interesting - thanks for sharing.
Dec 08th 2020
78
Update:
Dec 28th 2020
122
By the time I'm eligible to receive the vaccine, I'll know if...
Dec 04th 2020
60
I dont even trust initial game console releases
Dec 04th 2020
61
Cave men gotta beta test it first
Dec 05th 2020
65
Heard a very reputable immunologist
Dec 05th 2020
66
I personally know three top immunologists who are participating in trial...
Dec 06th 2020
67
well, if someone unnamed apparently heard it from someone else
Dec 06th 2020
68
      Paul Offit, MD
Dec 06th 2020
70
      Any mentor of Offit's would have to be at least 80
Dec 07th 2020
71
           I don't doubt things have advanced
Dec 07th 2020
72
                Technological advancements play only a small part in development speed.
Dec 08th 2020
74
                     Offit is still a practicing doctor I believe
Dec 10th 2020
80
                          Thanks for following up.
Dec 10th 2020
81
                          Yea I think we're actually
Dec 10th 2020
82
                               eh, if I were in one of those groups
Dec 10th 2020
87
                          who said there's no question marks?
Dec 10th 2020
86
                               Man you have a tic
Dec 10th 2020
88
                                    you made up some shit that no one said
Dec 11th 2020
89
      smart dumb dude
Dec 28th 2020
132
Probably - for the greater good
Dec 06th 2020
69
There are thousands of folks w/your exact profile that got it and died
Jan 15th 2021
179
I'll get it. it just makes sense.
Dec 08th 2020
76
Dr Fauci says black woman helped develop covid vaccine...
Dec 09th 2020
79
I will wait one year.
Dec 10th 2020
83
When you get covid I'll be the first to post
Dec 10th 2020
84
      That’s going to be the wait for the majority of the population.
Dec 10th 2020
85
      stop being an asshole
Dec 16th 2020
93
           But, if you wait infinity years then it's super safer
Dec 16th 2020
94
                nothing wrong with taking a wait and see approach for a rushed vaccine
Dec 16th 2020
96
                     You're not special
Dec 16th 2020
97
                          people have valid reasons.
Dec 16th 2020
98
Trump chief of staff: FDA head...approve vaccine today, or you're fired
Dec 11th 2020
90
I work for a hospital system, they sent the email today
Dec 15th 2020
91
Looks like March or April
Dec 16th 2020
92
      We've started giving it out
Dec 21st 2020
99
           We have Pfizer AND Moderna now
Dec 23rd 2020
105
no
Dec 16th 2020
95
its fine to be skeptical, but your reasoning isn't based in fact at all
Jan 15th 2021
180
disgusting how republicans downplayed the virus
Dec 21st 2020
100
I'm officially changing my answer to: Yes, the Moderna one
Dec 22nd 2020
101
can I ask why the preference?
Dec 22nd 2020
102
      that was me still being a skeptic re: Pfizer as a company
Jan 15th 2021
181
still no...
Dec 22nd 2020
103
Have you always had this fear?
Dec 23rd 2020
104
      yes...
Dec 23rd 2020
106
           what about the consequences and pain of getting covid?
Dec 24th 2020
108
Just got it yesterday...
Dec 24th 2020
107
any idea how long any of that will last?
Dec 24th 2020
109
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dec 24th 2020
110
Father got it yesterday.
Dec 24th 2020
111
*does the Birdman hand rub*
Dec 25th 2020
112
next week.
Dec 27th 2020
113
Maybe tomorrow for me!!!
Dec 27th 2020
114
      Got it
Dec 27th 2020
117
           24 hours later - no side effects / adverse reactions (yet)
Dec 28th 2020
120
                Maybe some very slight side effects
Dec 29th 2020
143
mfers vape, eat mcribs, drink monsters and talk about "What's in it?"
Dec 27th 2020
115
Lmao
Dec 27th 2020
118
buying vape canisters from complete randos
Dec 28th 2020
119
lmao at the McRib
Dec 28th 2020
126
People who've bought drugs from strangers, but don't trust vaccines...
Jan 04th 2021
164
*waves church fan*
Jan 15th 2021
182
I hope the general Black population is not represented
Dec 27th 2020
116
why does black people getting a vaccine
Dec 28th 2020
121
Because the reason those black folks are dying is due to
Dec 28th 2020
124
This shit has KILLED 1 in 800 black people in this country
Dec 28th 2020
123
      So you just want to throw a magical experimental vaccine at it
Dec 28th 2020
125
           It’s not a critical question. It’s an aside.
Dec 28th 2020
127
                How is the root of an issue an aside
Dec 28th 2020
128
                Glad to see that not everyone here has lost their mind.
Dec 28th 2020
129
                if you really wanted to show that you're different
Dec 28th 2020
130
                Fuck it, they can't be reasoned with
Dec 29th 2020
134
                     they're literally making shit up
Dec 29th 2020
137
                     Lol you going along with a midget troll of over a decade
Dec 29th 2020
139
                Sadly I'm not surprised either
Dec 28th 2020
131
                You are talking all over the place
Dec 29th 2020
140
                     But I have a PhD in Cherry Picking Wikipedia & Google results!!!
Dec 29th 2020
141
                     So you rather me search for peer reviewed scientific articles on Yahoo
Dec 29th 2020
149
                          You do what you want, lol.
Jan 04th 2021
165
                     Lol so lets make this lazer pointes focused
Dec 29th 2020
148
                          shouldn't you be out intentionally catching it
Dec 29th 2020
152
                out of touch
Dec 29th 2020
155
So it’s a rough vaccine.
Dec 28th 2020
133
Why did you get the vaccine?
Dec 29th 2020
135
antibodies from the infection only last 3-6 months...
Dec 29th 2020
142
three times??? The fck they out here doing???? or...NOT doing??? damn...
Dec 29th 2020
150
three times??? The fck they out here doing???? or...NOT doing??? damn...
Dec 29th 2020
151
the "new" more infectious strain been out here...
Dec 30th 2020
158
      Yeah that's what I was afraid of.
Jan 04th 2021
166
Damn that sucks. n/m
Dec 29th 2020
153
you know you can get it again right?
Dec 29th 2020
145
      yeah, its like cold in that regard.
Dec 29th 2020
147
      The jury is still out on that.
Dec 29th 2020
154
Thanks for sharing your experience with it
Dec 29th 2020
136
thx for this. hope the next one is a smoother ride for you.
Dec 29th 2020
138
I wonder if it was rougher b/c you had covid...
Dec 29th 2020
144
or because he had a rough bout with covid?
Dec 29th 2020
146
it's a vaccine that's still being studied
Dec 30th 2020
159
Sorry it's been bad for you, here's ancedotal from my experience
Dec 30th 2020
156
that's kinda rough fam...
Dec 30th 2020
160
      TO BE CLEAR - this vaccine caused no allergic reactions
Dec 30th 2020
162
Out of curiosity
Dec 30th 2020
157
they are, i work at a health center & there's a CDC app to report to
Dec 30th 2020
161
More ancedotal evidence
Jan 06th 2021
168
We start dose 2 on 01/13/2021 (2 days form now!!)
Jan 11th 2021
170
      2nd dose went in my arm today!
Jan 13th 2021
173
Thank you so much for sharing this level of detail on here
Jan 15th 2021
183
these fuckin ops are screaming about black people being pushed
Jan 03rd 2021
163
so the rollout seems to be a shitshow unlol
Jan 05th 2021
167
Republican values brought you this
Jan 06th 2021
169
      yup.
Jan 11th 2021
171
           Feds woulda phucked it up too
Jan 11th 2021
172
got my first dose last week
Jan 13th 2021
174
any side effects?
Jan 14th 2021
175
      arm sore af for two days and general cold malaise feeling
Jan 14th 2021
176
I've gotten the first dose of phizer
Jan 15th 2021
177
got my 1st pfizer shot on Tuesday
Jan 15th 2021
178
NYT: We're Underselling the Vaccine
Jan 18th 2021
184
RE: You getting the Covid vaccine or nah
Jan 21st 2021
185
^^Thumbs up
Jan 21st 2021
186
huh. this govt conspiracy to vaccinate black people first
Jan 22nd 2021
187

flipnile
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1. "No."
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Damali
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2. "not from Pfizer and not under Trump"
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I want whatever S. Korea is gonna give they folks

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"But rest assured, in my luxurious house built on the backs of people darker than me, I am sipping fine scotch and scoffing at how stupid you are." - bshelly

  

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handle
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3. "90% effective - YES I WILL"
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That's way higher than I expected.

I worked for Pfizer for 5 years and wile a lot of the upper management are awful, I don believe the vast majority of employees are good, honest scientist and that they won't let the vaccine out if it is harmful.

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PimpTrickGangstaClik
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4. "If it passes all regulation. And docs/scientists say I should, of course"
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Mon Nov-09-20 09:39 AM by PimpTrickGangstaClik

  

          

I take other vaccines with no hesitation, why not this

  

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Vex_id
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5. "I keep seeing people talking about "Biden's going to vax us all!""
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Mon Nov-09-20 09:40 AM by Vex_id

          

Yet it's Trump's HHS that developed "Operation Warp Speed" to deliver a vaccine to all Americans:

https://www.hhs.gov/coronavirus/explaining-operation-warp-speed/index.html

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/president-trump-leading-generation-effort-ensure-americans-access-covid-19-vaccine/

Somehow I missed all the hot takes from Alex Jones and the Q-bots calling out Trump for trying to vax us all.

This was even being peddled by cats like Los on Instagram:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CHTiwtypk_U/

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legsdiamond
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12. "Pfizer said it wasn’t part of warp speed"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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19. "they weren't planning on getting vax'd anyway bc it's all a hoax to them"
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>Somehow I missed all the hot takes from Alex Jones and the
>Q-bots calling out Trump for trying to vax us all.
>
>This was even being peddled by cats like Los on Instagram:
>https://www.instagram.com/p/CHTiwtypk_U/

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BrooklynWHAT
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6. "yeah. after yall tho."
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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Damali
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7. "lol when u not looking, imma get behind you in line!"
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"But rest assured, in my luxurious house built on the backs of people darker than me, I am sipping fine scotch and scoffing at how stupid you are." - bshelly

  

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BrooklynWHAT
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17. "im fine w/ that i just cant be first lol."
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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8. "I am a bit skeptical because of Trump's involvement"
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One thing I will do is watch what happens to doctors and nurses since they will get the vaccine first well before the general public has access to it.

I'll keep an eye on that population before getting a shot.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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11. "what involvement? they weren't a part of 'operation warp speed'"
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Numba_33
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15. "Operation Warp Speed only covers distribution, not design of the vaccine..."
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Mon Nov-09-20 10:27 AM by Numba_33

  

          

My concern is with Trump and his cabinet pressuring the FDA to lower testing standards to rush the vaccine out. That's assuming of course the vaccine will be available before January 20th.

**edit**

I totally forgot that Gov. Cuomo mentioned a month or so ago that he would arrange for added testing of the vaccine before making it available statewide in NY. I believe the impetus for this is him skepticism of Trump wanting to rush the vaccine out due to the election. I wonder if that effort will be combined with NJ and CT.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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napturalmystic
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9. "I'll have to do whatever my employer decides smh"
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I never got the flu shot. It used to be optional at work, now its mandatory. I'm sure the vaccine will be mandatory as well.

If I have a choice, no I'll pass.

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10. "Is that legal? "
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14. "if you work in the food or medical industry probably so"
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28. "yes, if its for the safety of the general public."
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no diff than kids getting vaccinated to enter school.

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

  

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napturalmystic
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39. "my employment is in an at will state"
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If I wanna work here I must get a flu shot or be sent packing.

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CherNic
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13. "MAYBE when it gets FDA approval"
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Right now this is just Pfizer is self-reporting. And it has to be stored at -103 degrees....there's a shortage of that right now

I'm hopeful, but there's still a long way to go with this

  

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FLUIDJ
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16. "hell yeahhhhhh...."
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Crash Bandacoot
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18. "dont know if i trust the FDA "
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Mon Nov-09-20 10:46 AM by Crash Bandacoot

          

they approve carcinogen laced drugs so, this is a wait and see for me.

  

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mikediggz
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20. "i love the timing of this...rgt after the election so it doesnt benefit"
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Mon Nov-09-20 11:11 AM by mikediggz

  

          

45 lol

  

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Trinity444
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21. "nah..."
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that or a flu shot.

  

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kwez
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22. "You're god damn right I am"
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23. "as long at it's trial'd out and there's no nutty side effects."
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cuz, franky, i'm missing going to gym like crazy lately...and i know they are open, but people breathe too hard in there mask or not so i ain't doing it right now.

STAND OUT HAND OUTS: http://basquiatwhenipaint.tumblr.com

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Amritsar
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24. "It’s time for the anti vax crowd to shine "
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Reeq
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25. "election over and these mfs still lying their ass off."
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https://twitter.com/Mike_Pence/status/1325794339335921667

https://twitter.com/virginiahughes/status/1325767927254151168

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27. "Cheeto has be livid that this didn't Pfizer didn't have Comey timing"
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Reeq
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30. "pence is praising trump while jr is screaming conspiracy."
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https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/1325791542490050561

looks like they need to get on the same page.

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33. "Trump Jr: They cost us the election! Trump Jr: We won the election!"
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26. "If enough people/orgs I trust cosign it, yes"
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I don't know about you but I'm tired of this fucking pandemic. If this moves us closer to normal again then everyone should get it. I understand the trepidation due to the connection with Trump BS, but some of these comments against a vaccine are sounding a little bit like the ones from anti mask dipshits.

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29. "I mean.. I’m not trying to be the first one to get it"
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and end up walking backwards and shit.

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31. "if you're not in a high-risk group, what are the chances"
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you can get the first round of vaccine doses anyway?

vaccinating the entire world after a record development time is a daunting task now matter how many resources are thrown at it

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32. "we need to rethink who we are classifying as high risk tho"
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i'm guessing you're referring to old people and the immunocompromised?

well, 8 months in, the real high risk group is Black and Latino people because we are half of all Covid deaths

that disproportionality speaks volumes about this country

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38. "anybody high risk"
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>well, 8 months in, the real high risk group is Black and
>Latino people because we are half of all Covid deaths

sure, minorities are suffering through a global pandemic because minorities suffer from poor healthcare even under normal times.

unfortunately, I'm fairly sure that priority will not change once the vaccine is available. that said, even among minority groups there will be levels of risk when distributing the vaccine.

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35. "high risk for what? dying? man, covid does more than kill you. "
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just don't fuck with it. goddamn.

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37. "I'm not downplaying covid."
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I'm saying, if there is a bottleneck distribution*, there will probably be people prioritized over others based on health history. so it may not be up to us (anyone relatively healthy under 60 without diabetes, asthma, etc) whether we can elect to take it or not.

*if a vaccine is effective, the entire world will want and need it. hell, in America it took half the year just to have masks and disposable wipes for everybody.

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42. "I think my demo is round 3 or 4....if not later"
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frustrating but....I understand

  

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34. "I'll give it a few weeks at least"
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Just got tested yesterday- just got the results this morning- negative! Gyeah.

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36. "I'm fucking cynical and I blame Trump"
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he cast doubt on democrazy, voting, the vaccine, my neighbors




we're it anyone else I would be thinking "humans are the shit, look at god"

instead, I'm like...did we rush it? will it really work?

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40. "I love how these vaccines were announced right after the election"
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you can’t tell me these companies just happened to have these stats ready a week after Trump lost.

Even if it’s a coincidence I’m loving the meltdown Trumpers are having..

Anyway.. I will say I’m a bit skeptical of these CEO’s selling stock right after the announcements. that shit should be illegal.

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41. "RE: I love how these vaccines were announced right after the election"
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>you can’t tell me these companies just happened to have
>these stats ready a week after Trump lost.
>
>Even if it’s a coincidence I’m loving the meltdown
>Trumpers are having..
>
>Anyway.. I will say I’m a bit skeptical of these CEO’s
>selling stock right after the announcements. that shit should
>be illegal.
>
>

It is so on-brand in the worst way that Trumpers can only think that everything happening in the world is somehow set up to negatively impact them. It’s the exact complaint they have when minorities and/or women complain about anything ever: even overt racism/sexism, death, etcetera. Now, folks are sitting up in good overall situations and swearing that the world is against them cuz some overnight politician they voted for isn’t gonna be able to ride another loophole into another 4 years. Creating their own social media and shit so they can talk limited loser shit to each other and feel good about it. It’s bad. It’s scary. But it’s so on-brand. It would be funny if there wasn’t so many of them. But some folks really think the whole planet is supposed to revolve around their whims and wants. It’s always gotta be their birthday.

  

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43. "how much would you pay to get it first?"
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just got a survey asking:

"How much would you be willing to pay to get to the front of the queue for the new covid-19 vaccine?"

0-20% of monthly salary
20-40% of monthly salary
40-60% of monthly salary
60-80% of monthly salary
80-100% of monthly salaru
N/A

um what? i swear i just turned into bernie and threw my hands up.

  

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44. "0, i have no desire to be in front of that line"
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i'm not against taking it but i'm not paying to be a crash test dummy

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45. "RE: 0, i have no desire to be in front of that line"
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>i'm not against taking i'm not paying to be a crash test
>dummy

Zero here as well. Why would I trust this thing enough to be first in line? Also, I’m lucky enough to be able to work from home. I’m blessed, lucky, and good. I can go snorkeling or whatever in 2022 if I’m still here and the situation is more under control by then.

  

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49. "^^^factuals"
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I'd rather be at the house well into or all through next year




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58. "^^This right here"
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Definitely will get the vaccine, but don't want/need to be 1st dibs. Let's see some side effects, get it to those at higher risk, and I'll work from home some more.We were going on a cruise this year so let them get everything cleared up by 2022 and I'm good

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55. "a family member is a doctor and says she wont get it..."
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until they have the 2 year data on it

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46. "Depends on if the zombies are fast or slow."
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47. "Moderna's is 94% effective"
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Give everyone that vaccine - keep us masked up for 6 more months and then we're back in business.

If immunity is temporary keep us masked up for longer. We won't know that for a while.

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48. "hell yeah"
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wife will too.

We are (facetiously) DYING for life to seem normal again.

By the time we get the vaccine, we hoping that the kinks show up and we are more educated and reassured about the decision

We are a year overdue on vacation plans to see parts of the world together.

  

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50. "Damn, we want to travel as well"
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and I know this means we would have to get the vaccine.

We still waiting tho.. I can’t trust a vaccine made that fast.



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51. "Obama, Clinton, and Bush say they'll get vaccine on TV to build confiden..."
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Is it going to be as safe as that Flint water supply, Barack?
https://giphy.com/gifs/nowthis-water-obama-flint-oZw2gLIoDHjO0

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/02/politics/obama-vaccine/index.html

  

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53. "Not a drop touched that man's lips, lol"
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54. "there was MORE liquid in that cup AFTER he "sipped" lol..."
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52. "Of course"
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My wife and I are low priority plus with her being pregnant, she may not get it till way later.

If a fat guy falls in the woods and there is no one around to see it, do the trees laugh?

  

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56. "Most likely everyone here isn’t getting access to the first few rounds..."
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They already said the first round will go to health care workers and nursing homes. Then the immunocompromised. Then etc.

We’ll likely all hear months and months of reports on the vaccine’s efficacy before we get a chance. And they’ll continue to develop and improve the vaccine as it’s being deployed. So I’m not worried at all.

And Trump had nothing to do with the vaccine. At all. lol. So that part doesn’t scare me.

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57. "right regular folks probably won't get until late spring/early summer"
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62. "^^^^^ Exactly. By the time I’m able to get it, it will be "
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a no brainer decision.

  

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59. "I'm participating in a clinical trial, so there's a 50% chance"
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I've already taken it.

  

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63. "what made you decide to participate?"
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will you ever know if you got it?

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

  

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64. "My wife is friends with the principal investigator "
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She said they needed more Black participants to ensure the vaccine is safe and effective for everyone.

The study is double blind and randomized, but they will unblind it if a participant gets sick or becomes eligible to get a commercially available vaccine.

  

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73. "thanks for the info."
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a much appreciation for stepping up.

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75. "How does the trial work? After you get the vaccine or placebo,"
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how do they test whether or not it worked? Do you just go out into the world to see if you get the virus or not? Do they specifically expose you to the virus? Are you able to self-quarantine if your state/county recommends it, and if so how would they know if the vaccine works?

  

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77. "I mostly just live my life"
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I have a symptoms diary that I have to fill out twice a week. Every couple months, I give them blood so they can test for antibodies. I notify them if I’ve been knowingly exposed to someone who is positive. If I’m sick, they’ll come do a nasal swab and collect some saliva. They gave me some at home test equipment like a pulse oximeter.

  

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78. "Interesting - thanks for sharing."
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122. "Update: "
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I went in for a follow up today. They told me that they expect to release their findings at the end of next month. At that time, they will unblind the study and everyone who got the placebo will be able to get the vaccine.

  

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60. "By the time I'm eligible to receive the vaccine, I'll know if..."
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...it's going to start a zombie outbreak.

  

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61. "I dont even trust initial game console releases"
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pass

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65. "Cave men gotta beta test it first "
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One of the scientists that worked on it said its bad for you. It doesn't seem safe. Vaccines take minimum 2.5 years of development whereas this took 9 months. I'll take my chances until concrete data shows no long lasting health defects 25 years after taking the vaccine.

No empathy for white misery (c) BDot

"root for everybody black haters say that's crazy, wow..."

  

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66. "Heard a very reputable immunologist"
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Who has developed other vaccines quote a mentor of his who would say he breathes easy after the first 3 million doses.

I'm in no rush to get jabbed. I had covid and made it through pretty well. Some reports of people getting layed low in the vaccine trials sound worse than anything I experienced actually having the virus. Down the road, we'll see

  

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67. "I personally know three top immunologists who are participating in trial..."
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One of them is the immunology division chief at one of the Harvard hospitals. Anecdotes are anecdotes.

  

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68. "well, if someone unnamed apparently heard it from someone else"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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70. "Paul Offit, MD"
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https://www.google.com/search?q=paul+offit&oq=paul+offit&aqs=chrome..69i57j46i131i433j0l3.2709j0j4&client=ms-android-motorola-gfw&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Offit

"He is one of the most public faces of the scientific consensus that vaccines have no association with autism. As a result, he has been the frequent target of hate mail and death threats."

Don't remember his mentor's name

  

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71. "Any mentor of Offit's would have to be at least 80"
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His most well known mentor died in 2005.

  

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72. "I don't doubt things have advanced"
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But this scale and rapidity of vaccination is unprecedented. People go precautionary principle jumping out of the way approaching masked people on sidewalks, but are quick to embrace this. I'm not an outright skeptic or an "I'll never take it" guy but I'm not getting in line for it at this point.

  

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74. "Technological advancements play only a small part in development speed."
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It's mostly funding, manpower and bureaucratic shortcuts that account for the speedy development of the Covid-19 vaccines. Cutting through all that red tape is probably the biggest factor.

In theory most vaccines could be developed within a timeframe like this, but since they normally have to compete with each other (and non-vaccine related health research) for resources and bureaucratic attention, they're not.

I could understand being wary of vaccines developed in Russia or China, since they have a history of poor transparency and corruption, but there's very little reason to distrust the current wave of vaccines coming from established universities and pharma corps.

And I'd take the opinion of currently working experts in the field over that of a single retired prof. I find that's generally a good strategy to end up on the right side of history, so to speak. Because there's always a retired dude with a degree willing to co-sign some dumb shit somewhere.

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80. "Offit is still a practicing doctor I believe"
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And is part of the group of scientists that is evaluating the trial data and making a judgment on whether america should start vaccinating people with the pfizer vaccine. His answer is going to be yes btw.

Covid 19 is new and not all that well understood in some basic ways that again make this uncharted territory for vaccine development. Offit isn't concerned about ADE with sars cov 2 but ADE was shown to occur in some animal models for sars cov 1. We don't know how immunity to the wild virus functions yet in some ways. the possible risk these unknowns may play seems to be outweighed for the vast majority of in the loop scientists informing public policy choices by the amount of suffering these vaccines seem like they can begin preventing basically today. But acting like it's all roses and there are NO question marks seems more rhetoric than reality

  

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81. "Thanks for following up."
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>But acting like it's all roses and there are
>NO question marks seems more rhetoric than reality

Yeah I'm not trying to argue that it's definitely safe (I don't know) and no questions should be asked, but it seems like people are just going "wow that's fast, can't trust it" instead of having actual specific concerns.

>>the possible risk these unknowns may play seems to be outweighed for the vast majority of in the loop scientists informing public policy choices

This is basically why I trust vaccines in general and I haven't seen much reason to act differently for the covid-19 ones.

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82. "Yea I think we're actually"
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Pretty close to eye to eye on this. Since I'm not going to be in any of the groups that will be first to get the vaccine, there will be plenty more data than was created by the trials to assess whether it's something I want to do. I wouldn't be thrilled if I was in some group for which it was mandated at this early stage though. To my knowledge, there are questions remaining about mandates. Will people working in hospitals HAVE to get it and quick? Workers in nursing homes? Etc.

  

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87. "eh, if I were in one of those groups"
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knowing what I know

I'd probably feel comfortable taking the jump, but knowing it's a jump to some extent.

but I'm not, so I'll wait till summer or whatever

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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86. "who said there's no question marks?"
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I said above that I wouldn't be first in line

that's different than spreading fud

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88. "Man you have a tic"
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For arguing like this on okp. It's not worth your time, my time or anyone else's. Have a good night

  

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89. "you made up some shit that no one said"
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and in fact went directly against what was actually said.

if you don't want to admit that and hopefully stop doing it that's your preroggative, but pointing out that you made up an angle in order to argue against it isn't a "tic"

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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132. "smart dumb dude"
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it's true

  

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69. "Probably - for the greater good"
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I’m personally not super worried about how COVID would affect me if I get it. Obviously you never know, but based on my age, fitness level, no underlying conditions or issues ever detected, I don’t get sick often and when I do it’s minor so my immune system seems pretty good - I will in all likelihood be ok.

But I don’t want to risk getting it and being one of those asymptomatic people who spreads it to people who die from it.

Wish we had more time and info and data on long term effects though. That gives me some pause.

  

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179. "There are thousands of folks w/your exact profile that got it and died"
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just saying...

but its good that you're not letting your guard down and taking unnecessary risks in order to protect others.

much appreciated!

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76. "I'll get it. it just makes sense."
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there will be side effects, which is common. hopefully there won't be any adverse, long term effects. sux that we're in the beginning of this and really don't know much.

talked to my boy last night. he's still traveling a good bit, banging chicks. reluctant to get the vaccine for him and his kiddos. still thinks it's flu-like. overthinking, but not thinking clearly.

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

  

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79. "Dr Fauci says black woman helped develop covid vaccine..."
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https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/09/us/african-american-scientists-vaccine-development-trnd/index.html

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83. "I will wait one year. "
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For the sake of more safety data and to get a full understanding of the vaccines’ long term effectiveness, I will wait 12 months.

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84. "When you get covid I'll be the first to post"
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Get better man!

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85. "That’s going to be the wait for the majority of the population."
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It will not be readily available to everyone for awhile.. It will be delivered to high risk demographics first.

So within that time, more safety data will be collected.

Plus the vaccine will only be effective with stopping the symptoms of Covid, not the transmission. They have no idea if the vaccine will prevent the spread of covid. There isn’t enough data.



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93. "stop being an asshole"
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a year isn’t a long time, especially when you see how they are dispersing it in waves depending on risk and availability.

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94. "But, if you wait infinity years then it's super safer "
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>a year isn’t a long time, especially when you see how they
>are dispersing it in waves depending on risk and availability.

Come on bro, people who are vaccine hesitant are like gluten free people - most of the times there's no fucking reason for it.

And every asshole who "waits and sees" is just increasing risk to other people.

And waiting does means availability has to be there - I guess you need every simple thing spelled out.

If you get Covid BECUASE you took a wait and see approach - or if you spread it to other people - then my best effort will have to be a "Get well soon" post here.


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96. "nothing wrong with taking a wait and see approach for a rushed vaccine"
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but keep being this new asshole.

not sure what happened but you’ve gone full old white man asshole this last year.. lol.

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97. "You're not special"
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And you sitting around like a moron NOT preventing yourself from catching a disease proves it.

I see bigoted, nationalist, and anti-science posts here - yours just hits the trifecta.

Get vaccinated. Or come up with a VALID reason not to.





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98. "people have valid reasons. "
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my father in-laws family member is a doctor and she said she isn’t getting it until they have 2 years of data on it.

Just because you want to run to the front of the line doesn’t mean you need to shit on those who will wait and see before getting it.

hell, you cant even get it until April so what if YOU get Covid before then?

I would never wish that on anyone but just showing you how stupid you sound for saying that dumb shit.

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90. "Trump chief of staff: FDA head...approve vaccine today, or you're fired"
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https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/12/11/politics/white-house-fda-chief-approve-covid-vaccine-resign/index.html

  

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91. "I work for a hospital system, they sent the email today"
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4 Tiers:
·Highest risk: Front-line clinical staff who are in contact with patients under investigation for or confirmed to have COVID-19

·High risk: Front-line clinical staff in all areas and support staff in clinical areas

·Moderate risk: Employees who have indirect or limited contact with patients

·Low risk: Administrative support staff with no routine patient contact

I'm in low-risk - So I might be able to get it sooner than someone not working for a hospital,or maybe not. Only time will tell. Whenever they say I can have it I'm, going to get it.

I'd prefer Pfizer vaccine because it's two shots separate by 3 weeks - Moderna is a 4 week separation.

So I'm as close as 4 weeks away from 95% immunity!!! Or as far away as whatever the last vaccine to be given is. But it sounds like the major health risk will be mitigated in the next 6 months!!

I hope to God that Biden comes in and speeds this shit up as much as he can.

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92. "Looks like March or April"
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Unless more vaccines get approved and supply increases

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99. "We've started giving it out "
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Our first shot was on Friday. We're scheduling our front line workers at the most risk to get it in the next two weeks, then we'll open it wider!

Now doing: Doctors, Nurses, N.P.s, CNAs, security guards, janitors and admin people (who check you in, etc.) who are in locations with high COVID contact probability (emergency rooms, urgent care, etc.)

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105. "We have Pfizer AND Moderna now"
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And the leaders are ensuring we're giving it out as fast as we possibly can. It's definitely accelerated now.

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95. "no"
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don't know what it is but, there is a vaccine for it. they're not
that smart. they cant even control cancer, more cancer centers out
here than ever and everybody is an expert. everything is an
opportunistic agenda or money grab so, i treat it as such.

have they even said what has happened to all the medicine
manufactured over in china and india? is stuff still being imported ???

in the interim, continued self-isolation with a wait and see for a
couple of years.

  

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180. "its fine to be skeptical, but your reasoning isn't based in fact at all"
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>don't know what it is

Yes, scientists know EXACTLY what it is. You saying this makes you seem delusional and lacking in critical thinking skills.

In fact, I've decided not to even respond to the rest cuz that is just ridiculous.

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100. "disgusting how republicans downplayed the virus"
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then were 1st in line to get the vaccine even before front line workers.

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101. "I'm officially changing my answer to: Yes, the Moderna one"
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i guess not that i'd have a choice

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102. "can I ask why the preference?"
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Haven’t been paying close attention

  

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181. "that was me still being a skeptic re: Pfizer as a company"
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I'm at the point now where I will take the vaccine, period.

I've signed up and awaiting my turn.

I want to be clear that I think a healthy skepticism was warranted early on...However, I listen to facts, reason and logic and evaluate information from experts...and so far, from what I've learned, even including additional posts in this thread, i'm feeling more and more fine about the vaccine from either company.

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103. "still no..."
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although Im not committed to anything so it make my decision easier. the fear of the side effects outweigh the benefits...in my mind.


  

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104. "Have you always had this fear?"
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>although Im not committed to anything so it make my decision
>easier. the fear of the side effects outweigh the
>benefits...in my mind.

Serious question, because I work with people who are saying the same thing - what's the fear?

Because I've only really heard about a handful of issues with vaccines in the past 50 years where they actually did something dangerous, and then it's too far few people than would have gotten very ill or died from the disease the vaccines prevents.

1)It won't work
2)It will give you COVID-19
3)That you'll experience an allergic reaction
4)That you'll experience a serious side effect before the second dose?
5)That in six months to a year you'll find out it has serious health impacts?
6)There's something wrong with the manufacturing process that will cause a near term serious health issue?
7)There's something wrong with the manufacturing process that will cause a term serious health issue later??

I honestly want to understand if there's a rational basis for the fear - but then again I know sometimes doesn't need to be rational to be real.

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106. "yes..."
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that’s with anything that may cause me pain or sickness. like, despite the joy of birthing a child, I never did it again because of the pain. with covid... it’s more likely a combination of 1 and 2. If I never had to leave the house again or wear masks for the rest of life, I’m totally fine with it.

now when I analysis my crazy lol...it’s crazy! because once in pain, I’ll take damn near anything if it takes away the pain.

but, manufacturing, being implanted with chips, being black...ain’t got nothing to do with it.

good question. I hope it makes sense...


  

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108. "what about the consequences and pain of getting covid?"
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for me, I'd rather the risk of the vaccine than what I've seen of covid.

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

  

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107. "Just got it yesterday..."
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my arm is sore as fuck

today, I'm feeling a little light-headed and sore on my left side, with my classic knee injury feeling stiff and hurting.

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109. "any idea how long any of that will last?"
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is the arm pain any worse than say a tetanus shot?

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

  

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110. "!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
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I 'm hoping to get it next week sometime - we're doing a lot of work right now for it.

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111. "Father got it yesterday."
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He's a pediatrician and one of the hospitals he works with was offering vaccines to all of its staff and doctors that it works with. He's also 75+, so it makes sense from him to get it ASAP.

Talked to him yesterday and he said he felt fine. Going to follow-up tonight.

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112. "*does the Birdman hand rub*"
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can't wait, personally.

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113. "next week. "
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thankful and looking forward to it.

  

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114. "Maybe tomorrow for me!!!"
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>thankful and looking forward to it.
I agree.

In as little as 4 weeks I could be 95% less likely to catch it. So gatherings with friends who are also vaccinated can be more normal.

And maybe things get back to 80% normal in the next few months as community spread is slowed by vaccination.

But I could go to Target or Vons without the worry. Just continue to wear a mask, stay away from folks and hope more and more folks get vaccinated.

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117. "Got it "
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Got the Pfizer one, booster dose on the January 19th, 2021.

A week after that the world's a lot safer for me. (Unless we find out something new.)

Hope everyone gets theirs's as soon as possible.

(No side effects yet. I do have a headache but I worked like 70 hours last week - probably unrelated.)

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120. "24 hours later - no side effects / adverse reactions (yet)"
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Maybe, MAYBE the injection site is a tiny bit sore if I squeeze my arm tightly.

No fever. Nothing to report.

My flu shot 2 years ago had 10 times the pain in the arm.

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143. "Maybe some very slight side effects"
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I either got mild side effects from vaccine and very light food poisoning.

Last night my face was flush/warm, some very light chills for 2 hours, and this morning some diarrhea.

Could be unrelated - but even if it is related then it's very mild.

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115. "mfers vape, eat mcribs, drink monsters and talk about "What's in it?""
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but never worry about what's in their food. now, I understand being cautious, but far too people are being ridiculous with their reasons.

  

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118. "Lmao"
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prototype

stand ur ground, believe in urself,
believe in love, prepare urself for love, remove the negativity from ur life, and accept the love u kno u deserve

  

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119. "buying vape canisters from complete randos "
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is the weirdest shit that's happened this decade, even beyond antivax antimasking

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126. "lmao at the McRib"
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people get hype over that nasty shit

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164. "People who've bought drugs from strangers, but don't trust vaccines..."
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They exist.

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182. "*waves church fan*"
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"But rest assured, in my luxurious house built on the backs of people darker than me, I am sipping fine scotch and scoffing at how stupid you are." - bshelly

  

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116. "I hope the general Black population is not represented"
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by this post.

Y'all are some of the most lost, comfortable in ignorance

Lacking any social political context having or basic common sense people I have ever seen.

Negros overall live in food deprived areas that are repressed with all kinds of health issues DUE TO RACISM and yall talking about taking vaccines from a people who only care about money.

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121. "why does black people getting a vaccine"
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for a contagious disease that disproportionately harms and kills black people make you so angry?

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124. "Because the reason those black folks are dying is due to"
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PRE EXISTING CONDITIONS

Why is that so hard to comprehend.

Sounds like systemic issues are the root not some rushed VACCINE that has no true research on it's long term effects.

THEN the noodle racist megalomaniacs have a nerve to say the BLACK PEOPLE and indigenous folk should take it first. When has this nation EVER in it's 250 year history done anything to benefit black and indigenous people first?

Are yall slow or are yall dumb?

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123. "This shit has KILLED 1 in 800 black people in this country"
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Killed.

Get the damn vaccine.

  

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125. "So you just want to throw a magical experimental vaccine at it"
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and not address the underlining health issues that are DUE to RACISM...


RIIIIIIGHT.

Then on top of that not address the precedent of Western(yt) nations using African and indigenous populations as guinea pigs for their medical industries?


Why are Black folks in the Caribbean and the continent not dying like they are in the USA?


Yall keep jumping over this CRITICAL questions.

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127. "It’s not a critical question. It’s an aside. "
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Refusing to get the vaccine isn’t going to address the disparate health outcomes brought forth by institutional racism. It’s simply going to make it easier to die.

  

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128. "How is the root of an issue an aside"
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You not making any sense.

We can look at all the countries where African people do not live under overt eurasian oppression and they don't have the same issues but in BRAZIL and THE USA we see the SAME conditions and it's an aside?


STAPH.

Then you want to omit the aside of how the US healthcare system has experimented on African people for over a century?

And lets not get into the fact that their system says it takes 7 years AT LEAST to come up with a viable vaccine and you want to take an experimental one made in 7 months?

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129. "Glad to see that not everyone here has lost their mind."
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I'm with you. The way that the healthcare industry, politicians, and the media have been pushing for Black folks to be first in line for the vaccine hasn't been sitting right with me. No one ever gives a crap about our issues any other time and whenever they have acted like they were concerned, it was always some kind of finesse that benefitted them and screwed us over.

I would be surprised that so many on here are going along with this bullcrap but this is OKP and from what I can tell, not much has changed.


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130. "if you really wanted to show that you're different"
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you'd catch covid on purpose and give it to your whole family

I mean think for a second, the government told you to try to not catch it

so really


it's the only logical choice

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134. "Fuck it, they can't be reasoned with"
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Removing facts.

Best bet is to talk to your doctor and follow their advice.

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137. "they're literally making shit up"
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there isn't and has never been a campaign to put black people at the front of the line

but they're fuckin psychos so they make up a thing they can get mad about.

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139. "Lol you going along with a midget troll of over a decade"
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on a messageboard and talking about reason.

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131. "Sadly I'm not surprised either"
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140. "You are talking all over the place"
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No one is denying the racist history of America‘s medical system. This is not an experiment on black people. This is the vaccine for everyone. You’re basically saying don’t put the fire out because the fire was caused by faulty wiring. Put the goddamn fire out first. We can address the wiring later.

As for what you were saying about it taking seven years to create a vaccine, you have no idea what you were talking about. They came up with an H1N1 vaccine in like five months, and that is included in every flu shot now.

I’m not a scientist, but I’m married to an MD with a phD in microbiology and immunology who happens to be immunology division chief at a major university hospital system. I’m going to trust what she tells me about the vaccine. She has no motive other than keeping her family alive.

  

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141. "But I have a PhD in Cherry Picking Wikipedia & Google results!!!"
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>I’m not a scientist, but I’m married to an MD with a phD
>in microbiology and immunology who happens to be immunology
>division chief at a major university hospital system. I’m
>going to trust what she tells me about the vaccine. She has no
>motive other than keeping her family alive.

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149. "So you rather me search for peer reviewed scientific articles on Yahoo"
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dork.

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165. "You do what you want, lol."
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You've been on this schtick since I can remember, I'm not enough of a dork to think I can change that.

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148. "Lol so lets make this lazer pointes focused"
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No one said this vaccine was made for Black folks only. The faulty false equivalency of community A is impacted most more so than community B means they should get the vaccine first and ignore all environmental and outside impacting circumstances that may make them more susceptible such as AH RACISM, purposely created food shortages, low wage earning working conditions etc etc etc yea just throw a vaccine with NO LONG TERM RESEARCH RESULTS yea.

I dont care if your wife was the top immunologists at the CDC none of these people have shown the studies and effectiveness of this vaccine.

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152. "shouldn't you be out intentionally catching it"
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to prove the government lied?

why are you still here

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155. "out of touch"
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not an "aside":
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133. "So it’s a rough vaccine."
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Much like many of the other one treatment regimen vaccines, it packs a punch.
As my antibodies built up I had similar symptoms to when I had Covid.
-old injuries that bother me constantly being acutely sore
-fatigue
-body aches that progressed to my entire body after 11pm to about 2am
-the site where I got the shot got extremely sore and sensitive to the touch, from about the first day no feeling, 2nd day, a little sore, 3rd day during the body aches, couldn’t even lift my arm past my shoulders like John MCain.

I know it’s not live virus, but my immune systems reaction in just 2-3 days, was intense.
The pain and discomfort was at a 4 or 5.

When I had Covid in March, the pain and discomfort went from a 7 to a 8-9 for 2 weeks straight, with 2 specific overnight experiences being a 10.

Covid-19 is such a fucking monster that it can just be a 1-2 for some people, and be a 9-10 for others and even lead to death in some cases. 1 in a 1,000 in fact.

I’m glad I got the vaccine and I hope a lot more people do. But if you have allergies to medication. DO NOT GET THE VACCINE WITHOUT CONSULTING YOUR PHYSICIAN. And only go ahead with it if you’re in a clinical/hospital setting.

2nd shot in 3 more weeks and I know/hope it’ll be easier.

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135. "Why did you get the vaccine?"
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Since you already had Covid. Are you concerned that your antibodies will stop protecting you?

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142. "antibodies from the infection only last 3-6 months..."
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i work with someone who actually got it 3 times this past year

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150. "three times??? The fck they out here doing???? or...NOT doing??? damn..."
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"Get ready....for your blessing....."
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151. "three times??? The fck they out here doing???? or...NOT doing??? damn..."
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"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"

  

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158. "the "new" more infectious strain been out here..."
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they just haven't been testing for it

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166. "Yeah that's what I was afraid of."
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As soon as I saw an article about the new "British" strain possibly being found in other countries, I pretty much concluded it was everywhere already, just like the original virus a year ago.

Three times though, damn.. Know anything about the severity of their symptoms over the course of their three bouts? Should become less severe, right?

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153. "Damn that sucks. n/m"
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145. "you know you can get it again right?"
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Replying to you but not really you....where did the myth come from that you can't get it again?

My friend tested positive in March and had antibodies. Was exposed again in October/November and tested negative but his antibodies were also gone

  

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147. "yeah, its like cold in that regard."
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also the vaccine doesn't prevent you from getting it, but blocks the symptoms so you don't become ill if you do get it. however, you can still spread it. so masks will be around for a bit.



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154. "The jury is still out on that."
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But either way, I was just curious about his story. I'm looking forward to us all getting access to vaccines.

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136. "Thanks for sharing your experience with it"
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Looking forward to hearing any updates you may give.

  

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138. "thx for this. hope the next one is a smoother ride for you."
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144. "I wonder if it was rougher b/c you had covid..."
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I have food + medicinal allergies so even though I'm way down the line in being able to get the vaccine, my allergies do concern me

  

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146. "or because he had a rough bout with covid?"
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i guess that data's not in yet but i wonder if the vaccine in any way mirrors how bad you either had or would have had it.

so if you were or would have been mostly asymptomatic, the vaccine won't hit you hard, and vice versa?

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159. "it's a vaccine that's still being studied"
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and a virus that's still being studied

so it might be both of you guys' assumption

i just think the moderna vax is just rough

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156. "Sorry it's been bad for you, here's ancedotal from my experience"
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I've talked to around 30 of my colleagues who have gotten the vaccine and none have had as rough as a time as you have had. (Most got Pfizer, but at least 5 got Moderna.)

One person had "ringing in her ears' for about 18 hours. (She's a legit weirdo though, she claims to have had COVID twice already, but she only had one positive test.)

About 2/3 had some degree of soreness in their arm.

About 1/3 had slight chills that went away within a day.

I know that 2 of the people have had severe allergic reactions to previous vaccines - one was caused by an interaction with a medication she was taking, the other was spontaneous. Neither of them had any significant reaction or pain to this vaccine (both got Pfizer.)

I'm the only one who admitted to diarrhea. I also had some muscle aches - very minor and possibly unrelated.

I hope your second shot is less painful.

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160. "that's kinda rough fam..."
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lol

it sucks that the vaccine causes allergic reactions though

it's really making it important for everyone else to get vaccinated, but some folks just won't

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162. "TO BE CLEAR - this vaccine caused no allergic reactions"
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These people had allergic reactions to PREVIOUS vaccinations and DID NOT have an allergic reaction to this one.

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157. "Out of curiosity"
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Is the doctor or facility that gave you the vaccine aware of what you went through? I would hope so since everything involving COVID-19 is so brand new, including the vaccine.

It's important for stuff like this to get documented in more places than this dying message board.

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161. "they are, i work at a health center & there's a CDC app to report to"
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168. "More ancedotal evidence"
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2 people who got Moderna had side effects and one missed 2 days of work.

They weren't much more specific - but it happened.

The one I talked to said she'd take it again, that the side effects were like a cold/flu.

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170. "We start dose 2 on 01/13/2021 (2 days form now!!)"
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Some folks have been getting it since the 3rd. I haven't talked to anyone who got the second yet - but I'll post any anecdotes I find.

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173. "2nd dose went in my arm today!"
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No major issues reported yet in my group.

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183. "Thank you so much for sharing this level of detail on here"
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its really truly appreciated.

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163. "these fuckin ops are screaming about black people being pushed"
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as guinea pigs

meanwhile in real life local politicians are dishing out vaccines to their white family and friends



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167. "so the rollout seems to be a shitshow unlol"
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Florida using Eventbrite for registration in certain counties. EVENTBRITE

  

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169. "Republican values brought you this"
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Republican's think power should devolve to the state and that the sates should "figure it out" and that will be better than having someone tell them what to do.

Also THESE Republicans in charge are incompetent.

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171. "yup."
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while leaving no instructions at all for the states to have a smoother roll out.

thank you, orange monster.

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172. "Feds woulda phucked it up too"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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174. "got my first dose last week"
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175. "any side effects?"
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176. "arm sore af for two days and general cold malaise feeling"
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177. "I've gotten the first dose of phizer"
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actually got it two weeks ago. left shoulder was sore for three days. stomach was upset for one day. that was it for the first week. then, exactly one week after, i got body aches for one day. they were minor, but noticeable. nothing else since then.

  

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178. "got my 1st pfizer shot on Tuesday"
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Went with a group of coworkers and we stood in line for 2 hours to get it done. My site is going to have to have a better plan for Seniors and disabilities because standing that long isn't going to cut it.

only felt a little soreness the 1st day like i do with most needle shots.

Rest of the week, no other side effects.

Nurse had us sign up for this after vaccine daily tracking site where they ask everyday how u are feeling.

  

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184. "NYT: We're Underselling the Vaccine"
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https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/18/briefing/donald-trump-pardon-phil-spector-coronavirus-deaths.html

Best swipe:
If anything, the 95 percent number understates the effectiveness, because it counts anyone who came down with a mild case of Covid-19 as a failure. But turning Covid into a typical flu — as the vaccines evidently did for most of the remaining 5 percent — is actually a success. Of the 32,000 people who received the Moderna or Pfizer vaccine in a research trial, do you want to guess how many contracted a severe Covid case? One.

See: https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/11/absolutely-remarkable-no-one-who-got-modernas-vaccine-trial-developed-severe-covid-19
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Full article
Good morning. We explain why the vaccine news is better than you may think.

Early in the pandemic, many health experts — in the U.S. and around the world — decided that the public could not be trusted to hear the truth about masks. Instead, the experts spread a misleading message, discouraging the use of masks.

Their motivation was mostly good. It sprung from a concern that people would rush to buy high-grade medical masks, leaving too few for doctors and nurses. The experts were also unsure how much ordinary masks would help.

But the message was still a mistake.

It confused people. (If masks weren’t effective, why did doctors and nurses need them?) It delayed the widespread use of masks (even though there was good reason to believe they could help). And it damaged the credibility of public health experts.

“When people feel as though they may not be getting the full truth from the authorities, snake-oil sellers and price gougers have an easier time,” the sociologist Zeynep Tufekci wrote early last year.

Now a version of the mask story is repeating itself — this time involving the vaccines. Once again, the experts don’t seem to trust the public to hear the full truth.

This issue is important and complex enough that I’m going to make today’s newsletter a bit longer than usual. If you still have questions, don’t hesitate to email me at themorning@nytimes.com.

‘Ridiculously encouraging’
Right now, public discussion of the vaccines is full of warnings about their limitations: They’re not 100 percent effective. Even vaccinated people may be able to spread the virus. And people shouldn’t change their behavior once they get their shots.

These warnings have a basis in truth, just as it’s true that masks are imperfect. But the sum total of the warnings is misleading, as I heard from multiple doctors and epidemiologists last week.

“It’s driving me a little bit crazy,” Dr. Ashish Jha, dean of the Brown School of Public Health, told me.

“We’re underselling the vaccine,” Dr. Aaron Richterman, an infectious-disease specialist at the University of Pennsylvania, said.

“It’s going to save your life — that’s where the emphasis has to be right now,” Dr. Peter Hotez of the Baylor College of Medicine said.

The Moderna and Pfizer vaccines are “essentially 100 percent effective against serious disease,” Dr. Paul Offit, the director of the Vaccine Education Center at Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia, said. “It’s ridiculously encouraging.”

The details
Here’s my best attempt at summarizing what we know:

The Moderna and Pfizer vaccines — the only two approved in the U.S. — are among the best vaccines ever created, with effectiveness rates of about 95 percent after two doses. That’s on par with the vaccines for chickenpox and measles. And a vaccine doesn’t even need to be so effective to reduce cases sharply and crush a pandemic.

If anything, the 95 percent number understates the effectiveness, because it counts anyone who came down with a mild case of Covid-19 as a failure. But turning Covid into a typical flu — as the vaccines evidently did for most of the remaining 5 percent — is actually a success. Of the 32,000 people who received the Moderna or Pfizer vaccine in a research trial, do you want to guess how many contracted a severe Covid case? One.

Although no rigorous study has yet analyzed whether vaccinated people can spread the virus, it would be surprising if they did. “If there is an example of a vaccine in widespread clinical use that has this selective effect — prevents disease but not infection — I can’t think of one!” Dr. Paul Sax of Harvard has written in The New England Journal of Medicine. (And, no, exclamation points are not common in medical journals.) On Twitter, Dr. Monica Gandhi of the University of California, San Francisco, argued: “Please be assured that YOU ARE SAFE after vaccine from what matters — disease and spreading.”

The risks for vaccinated people are still not zero, because almost nothing in the real world is zero risk. A tiny percentage of people may have allergic reactions. And I’ll be eager to see what the studies on post-vaccination spread eventually show. But the evidence so far suggests that the vaccines are akin to a cure.

Offit told me we should be greeting them with the same enthusiasm that greeted the polio vaccine: “It should be this rallying cry.”

The costs of negativity
Why are many experts conveying a more negative message?

Again, their motivations are mostly good. As academic researchers, they are instinctively cautious, prone to emphasizing any uncertainty. Many may also be nervous that vaccinated people will stop wearing masks and social distancing, which in turn could cause unvaccinated people to stop as well. If that happens, deaths would soar even higher.

But the best way to persuade people to behave safely usually involves telling them the truth. “Not being completely open because you want to achieve some sort of behavioral public health goal — people will see through that eventually,” Richterman said. The current approach also feeds anti-vaccine skepticism and conspiracy theories.

After asking Richterman and others what a better public message might sound like, I was left thinking about something like this:

We should immediately be more aggressive about mask-wearing and social distancing because of the new virus variants. We should vaccinate people as rapidly as possible — which will require approving other Covid vaccines when the data justifies it.

People who have received both of their vaccine shots, and have waited until they take effect, will be able to do things that unvaccinated people cannot — like having meals together and hugging their grandchildren. But until the pandemic is defeated, all Americans should wear masks in public, help unvaccinated people stay safe and contribute to a shared national project of saving every possible life.

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185. "RE: You getting the Covid vaccine or nah"
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Signed up for the novavax trial last week, got an appointment scheduled next Thursday. 66% chance of vaccine, 33% chance of placebo. I’ll know in 4 weeks when they do the second dose. The way I figure, wasn’t gonna be able to get any shot within the next 4 weeks let alone 1. Might as well try.

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186. "^^Thumbs up"
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Hope you get it and it's effective

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187. "huh. this govt conspiracy to vaccinate black people first"
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is just not working out like that.

Dallas County axes plan to prioritize vaccinating communities of color after state threatens to slash allocation
State officials told Dallas leadership the plan was "not acceptable," and threatened to cut the county's vaccine supply.

https://www.texastribune.org/2021/01/20/dallas-vaccine-plan-communities-of-color/?utm_campaign=trib-social&utm_content=1611240859&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

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