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"2020 Election Day Post Pt 2 "
Thu Nov-05-20 12:13 PM by PimpTrickGangstaClik

  

          

Still counting. Still waiting.

  

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Come on man. You know there is a much more clever post title
Nov 05th 2020
1
*Election week
Nov 05th 2020
2
I despise Huffpost's headlines.....
Nov 05th 2020
3
does Stacey want to run the party?
Nov 05th 2020
4
I've only heard her mention Governor and a future Pres run in interviews...
Nov 05th 2020
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Anybody's states pass any interesting measures?
Nov 05th 2020
5
These 2 were the ones that I was most concerned about.
Nov 05th 2020
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a few in CO
Nov 05th 2020
11
can you explain this one?
Nov 05th 2020
12
      Yes, thats pretty much it
Nov 05th 2020
18
           the key being it doesnt go into effect until theres enough for 270
Nov 05th 2020
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                Supreme Court just ruled on this (swipe)
Nov 05th 2020
26
DC decriminalized shrooms and Virginians approved of a ballot measure
Nov 05th 2020
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Oregon decriminalized all drugs too
Nov 05th 2020
28
Nebraska no longer allows slavery as a form of punishment!
Nov 05th 2020
25
a few cool things from what i have read
Nov 06th 2020
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Hey, yall disappointed in LGBTQ & Latinos, or just black men?
Nov 05th 2020
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Why on earth would be disappointed in black voters right now?
Nov 05th 2020
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jig is up fr. the way ive seen people speak on black male voters
Nov 05th 2020
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i could see why black men in Bmore wouldve voted for her
Nov 05th 2020
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      blame for...?
Nov 05th 2020
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      RE: blame for...?
Nov 05th 2020
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           nope. that's not helpful.
Nov 05th 2020
35
      just noticed her name is KimK LOL
Nov 05th 2020
42
Hispanics/Latinos trip me out
Nov 05th 2020
9
what about this election trips you out
Nov 05th 2020
30
just how many were trumpers (for whatever reasons)
Nov 05th 2020
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the problem is viewing that group as a monolith, Mexicans, Puerto Ricans...
Nov 05th 2020
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      no shit sherlock
Nov 05th 2020
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           delete
Nov 05th 2020
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           I wasn't necessarily trying to inform you genius, I'm talking about...
Nov 05th 2020
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                go siddown somewhere
Nov 05th 2020
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                     actually feel free to STFU also with your pointless posts
Nov 05th 2020
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I just figured out how the whole Trump increased his votes among X group
Nov 05th 2020
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im trying to wrap my head around the numbers
Nov 05th 2020
13
Hasn't the story been that Trump's percentage of X group increased?
Nov 05th 2020
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But the story you mentioned is weird
Nov 05th 2020
21
      I see what you're saying
Nov 05th 2020
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after talking about how unreliable polling has been this election
Nov 05th 2020
20
      also white people in the media aint shit mayne.
Nov 05th 2020
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           Meanwhile the hoods are powering Biden's win.
Nov 05th 2020
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                literally saving the country
Nov 05th 2020
29
Clark county registrar dude doesn’t sound like he is built for this
Nov 05th 2020
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When Nevada gets called for Joe, will fox retract AZ for now?
Nov 05th 2020
34
It would be WILD if Fox was the first to call the race for Biden.
Nov 05th 2020
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Is it me, but it seems the POLLING at fox have done Trump no favors?
Nov 05th 2020
37
Believe or not, FoxNews apparently has the most accurate desk...
Nov 05th 2020
39
they aint retracting shit
Nov 05th 2020
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Extrapolation kills politicians everyday, B.
Nov 05th 2020
40
what if the 2 red states that flip are john mccain & john lewis?
Nov 05th 2020
41
Proof that karma exists
Nov 05th 2020
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Did it just so happen that the "swing states" are the last states?
Nov 05th 2020
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RE: Did it just so happen that the "swing states" are the last states?
Nov 05th 2020
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Assuming Biden doesn’t need it I kinda hope Trump takes AZ
Nov 05th 2020
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I don't think it'll work like that
Nov 05th 2020
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Trump TV
Nov 05th 2020
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Good point.
Nov 05th 2020
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CNN and a few others called AZ as well
Nov 05th 2020
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Nah. It won't work out that way. Better for Biden to take AZ so the Gho...
Nov 05th 2020
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I don’t
Nov 05th 2020
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Hell no. I want him to lose every remaining state so there is no doubt
Nov 05th 2020
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John McCain definitely is having the last laugh now
Nov 06th 2020
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Fuck being cute we want a blowout
Nov 06th 2020
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I notice no one has mentioned her, Jo Jorgensen, rather the party
Nov 05th 2020
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WHO
Nov 05th 2020
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she's a political professor and will back to teaching her class next
Nov 05th 2020
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      Oh I know. But WHO
Nov 05th 2020
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is that even 1%?
Nov 05th 2020
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RE: is that even 1%?
Nov 05th 2020
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She pulled a lot more votes from Trump than Biden
Nov 05th 2020
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Please stop paying attention to the circus.
Nov 05th 2020
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Nigga.... this is the best time to watch these fools cry about this L
Nov 05th 2020
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the higher you go the harder you fall.
Nov 05th 2020
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      I’m here for the circus.
Nov 05th 2020
80
folks need to smoke a J and go do something else for a bit
Nov 05th 2020
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      bruh, only one of those things is allowed at work ands it NNN
Nov 05th 2020
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Latino men, assimilation is a bitch
Nov 05th 2020
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^^^^^^^
Nov 05th 2020
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Fam, let's be real, Joe Biden and the Democrats didn't win their votes
Nov 05th 2020
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I hear the don't blame voters thing.
Nov 05th 2020
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I admit they are neglecting the hispanic population in a big way but ...
Nov 05th 2020
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as of right now about 47-48% of voters were OK w/Trump
Nov 05th 2020
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      nah the reality is half our nation is unsalvageable
Nov 05th 2020
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           you can't win elections w/less than half the people
Nov 05th 2020
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                there are plenty of voters in Georgia, Florida and Texas to win those st...
Nov 05th 2020
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                     Very fair point.
Nov 05th 2020
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Normal times, yeah. I've never express it like that before, I've thought...
Nov 05th 2020
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if this is a big phuck you from Latinos to what Obama and his party
Nov 05th 2020
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gop shot down immigration reform in the house 1 year
Nov 05th 2020
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      yeah immigration reform died when bitchface Eric Cantor got primaried
Nov 06th 2020
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Nah. YOU cast your vote. They don't. You make that choice.
Nov 05th 2020
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I feel you. 100%. I don't get Trump's appeal AT ALL
Nov 05th 2020
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and Trump did?
Nov 05th 2020
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      this is always my question.
Nov 05th 2020
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      it's the messaging
Nov 05th 2020
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      its easier to message when you have no shame in outright lying.
Nov 05th 2020
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           well Dems are great at losing gracefully
Nov 05th 2020
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      "but, but...what about the 1994 crime bill, tho?" LOL smh...
Nov 05th 2020
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      Yes, he did somethig to win their votes.
Nov 05th 2020
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RE: Latino men, assimilation is a bitch
Nov 05th 2020
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Wow, thank you for this. I was upset about the percentage increase for t...
Nov 05th 2020
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and I oops, yeah I will stfu now
Nov 05th 2020
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      See! A much smarter person made the point I was trying to make in #10
Nov 05th 2020
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Delete
Nov 05th 2020
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You learned that in Teen Vogue too?
Nov 05th 2020
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*rolls eye*
Nov 05th 2020
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Nope, I cannot tell anyone how to vote.
Nov 05th 2020
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      But what can you judge?
Nov 05th 2020
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Whenever Biden was confronted about immigration policies
Nov 05th 2020
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      And that's what voters rememberd 'go vote for that other guy'
Nov 05th 2020
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           exactly.
Nov 06th 2020
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biden within 9k votes in GA according to abc
Nov 05th 2020
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as I was saying in the other post, our confidence is rooted in precedenc...
Nov 05th 2020
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let's go Chatham County!
Nov 05th 2020
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Georgia down to 9k Trump lead. And still tightening.
Nov 05th 2020
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Black America saving our undeserving asses
Nov 05th 2020
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Perdue now at 49.9
Nov 05th 2020
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Soon as Georgia flips, this ones going on the IG Story
Nov 05th 2020
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you know biden is singing this right now
Nov 05th 2020
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I've listened to nothing but Outkast the last 24 hours.
Nov 05th 2020
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As Ryan said above me, Nothing but OUTKAST in the headphones
Nov 05th 2020
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biden gonna come out to his victory speech with pastor troy.
Nov 05th 2020
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That’s the dagger right there.
Nov 05th 2020
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pay close attention to who is celebrating this win
Nov 05th 2020
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...
Nov 05th 2020
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      people who support leftist policies dont vote
Nov 05th 2020
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trumpers mad the repub establishment aint ridin.
Nov 05th 2020
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damn this pa vote count is moving pretty fast.
Nov 05th 2020
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i guess i'm dumb which is fine...
Nov 05th 2020
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i believe they mean 5% of the current accepted votes
Nov 05th 2020
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i saw a repub conspiracy theory that dems in different states
Nov 05th 2020
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more tin foil:
Nov 05th 2020
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aww, that's cute.
Nov 05th 2020
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fox news cant wait to call it lol
Nov 05th 2020
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how much is trump going to brag if he passes Obamas vote count from 08?
Nov 05th 2020
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If he wins, a lot...but you already know
Nov 05th 2020
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I hope Biden hangs Trump's presidential portrait in the bathroom
Nov 05th 2020
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Turn that shit into toiler paper or use it for target practice
Nov 05th 2020
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MSNBC cut Trump's speech off. LOL!
Nov 05th 2020
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He was just rambling lies off the top of his head.
Nov 05th 2020
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Am I paranoid for thinking it won't be over after Biden hits 270?
Nov 05th 2020
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im kinda encouraged that republicans are kinda keeping their distance.
Nov 05th 2020
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Trump is a coward and insecure
Nov 05th 2020
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The voter fraud hypothesis: is the claim that Republicans are choir boys...
Nov 05th 2020
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This is an embarrassment. Dude is like a child
Nov 05th 2020
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This is embarrassing
Nov 05th 2020
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Wait what are y’all referring to?
Nov 05th 2020
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      Trumps press conference...
Nov 05th 2020
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I'm starting to think a lot about city folk vs. country folk
Nov 05th 2020
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Bishop huggin Raheim’s mom, Walt handing Hank that tape....
Nov 05th 2020
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damn biden only down 3600 in ga now.
Nov 05th 2020
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When you choose "progressiveness" over your blackness
Nov 05th 2020
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black people got hit the hardest by covid.
Nov 05th 2020
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these data/polling dudes are really smug pieces of shit.
Nov 05th 2020
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so proud of black folks...
Nov 05th 2020
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particularly black women
Nov 05th 2020
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**twirls**
Nov 05th 2020
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Yes. I think I'm more hyped right now about GA/Stacey Abrams/Fair Fight
Nov 05th 2020
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      O, she did that.
Nov 05th 2020
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           Hell hath no fury and I'm so here for it lol
Nov 05th 2020
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Particularly black men
Nov 05th 2020
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even murdoch is throwing trump in the trash.
Nov 05th 2020
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Speaking of pence. He’s been realllll quiet since Tuesday
Nov 05th 2020
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He tweeted "I stand with the President" right after the speech
Nov 05th 2020
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      Ahh I see. Must’ve missed that
Nov 05th 2020
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I would think that, but i am pretty sure the state of NY gonna get him f...
Nov 05th 2020
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      hopefully.
Nov 05th 2020
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Hey! The Emperor has no clothes!! (4 years too late)
Nov 05th 2020
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we bout to get our 1st black woman vp fam.
Nov 05th 2020
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RE: we bout to get our 1st black woman vp fam.
Nov 05th 2020
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lol so true.
Nov 05th 2020
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They had their chance with Hillary
Nov 05th 2020
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      Yep, white women had their chance to have a white woman President
Nov 05th 2020
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           and blew it. these the same women that'll tell their daughters,
Nov 06th 2020
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Congrats ❤️
Nov 05th 2020
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Feel lucky to be able to witness it
Nov 05th 2020
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and dont forget graduate of an HBCU and AKA w/ a jamaican
Nov 06th 2020
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love it
Nov 06th 2020
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AKAs on campuses and workplaces everywhere will be
Nov 06th 2020
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      now??? as opposed to...all of time?
Nov 06th 2020
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           Lol
Nov 06th 2020
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impatience aside, the slow Burn of Plump having to watch this slip away
Nov 05th 2020
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watching some of the people who sold out for the MAGA gravy train
Nov 05th 2020
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YUP!!! He deserves a slow, painful demise
Nov 05th 2020
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its a beautiful sight to behold.
Nov 05th 2020
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I’ll admit I hadn’t considered this
Nov 05th 2020
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indy/dem senator in alaska says he is expecting the win.
Nov 05th 2020
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If GA flips, that's going to be the highlight for me. It's symbolic.
Nov 05th 2020
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Stacey should be the new DNC chair
Nov 05th 2020
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Oh hells no lol. I hope not. I've only ever heard her mention trying for
Nov 05th 2020
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They'll appoint her to a plum position that will give her advantage...
Nov 05th 2020
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biden down only 2500.
Nov 05th 2020
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*twerks*
Nov 05th 2020
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1700 now
Nov 05th 2020
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for sure...
Nov 05th 2020
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      right?!
Nov 05th 2020
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All skin folk, ain’t Kin folk… https://twitter.com/_r_o_n_e_/status/...
Nov 05th 2020
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It's obv been said ad nauseam but
Nov 05th 2020
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He's going to have to be gracious in victory
Nov 05th 2020
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Fuck. That. Shit.
Nov 05th 2020
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      There'll be time to be petty and vindictive
Nov 05th 2020
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      RE: Fuck. That. Shit.
Nov 05th 2020
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i wish lol.
Nov 05th 2020
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Gotta disagree on this one,fam
Nov 05th 2020
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      I'm not as concerned about normalcy as I am about not giving...
Nov 05th 2020
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AC just called Trump an "obese turtle on his back flailing in the sun"
Nov 05th 2020
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This Jason Voorhees walk-down in GA is something I'll never forget
Nov 05th 2020
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is he gonna get there? seems really up in the air to me...
Nov 05th 2020
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Yeah, I'm not sure where this confidence is coming from.
Nov 05th 2020
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no, I'm not even speaking of a win, just where the lead was...
Nov 05th 2020
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As of 15 minutes ago, Dipshit's lead was down to less than 2,500
Nov 05th 2020
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      but i just saw a tweet that said there's only 14K votes left to count...
Nov 05th 2020
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           Right, he needs to win 56% of them. And they're mostly from counties...
Nov 05th 2020
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                RE: Right, he needs to win 56% of them. And they're mostly from counties...
Nov 05th 2020
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                And Georgia allows votes by mail to come in a number of days late
Nov 05th 2020
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                military votes skew blue? that's surprising to me.
Nov 05th 2020
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                     No, mail-in votes in general skew Blue
Nov 05th 2020
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                Most of those ballots have already been counted though
Nov 05th 2020
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                     Right. Drumf wouldn't be scrambling to stop the count...
Nov 05th 2020
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                Looks very likely
Nov 05th 2020
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                     Good link
Nov 05th 2020
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                     Thanks for the link.
Nov 05th 2020
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you can tell the trump campaign never saw ga coming.
Nov 05th 2020
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      ...and the fact that dude actually said into a microphone that...
Nov 06th 2020
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The biggest lesson about this election is white folks LIE...
Nov 05th 2020
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You didn’t need this election to know that white people lie
Nov 05th 2020
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The Bradley effect
Nov 05th 2020
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yep
Nov 06th 2020
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I never heard of this phrase before.
Nov 06th 2020
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      wow, really?
Nov 06th 2020
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      welcome
Nov 06th 2020
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not just white ppl. white men are gonna be white men. its
Nov 06th 2020
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What happened to the doom and gloom folks from earlier in the week?
Nov 05th 2020
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Unrelated to the election, but Putin is resigning?
Nov 05th 2020
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Even if this is true it’s not true..
Nov 05th 2020
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      O, there's no doubt that he's not going to disappear completely
Nov 05th 2020
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Biden now ahead by <1k in Georgia..:)
Nov 06th 2020
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Clayton County (John Lewis’ district) put him over the top
Nov 06th 2020
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      Beautifully poetic
Nov 06th 2020
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      that's awesome
Nov 06th 2020
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      may i also mentioned how Nikema Williams dragged Angela
Nov 06th 2020
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btw Philly has basically been a big dance party the last couple of days
Nov 06th 2020
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Time to put crisco on the street poles lmao
Nov 06th 2020
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I forgot about the robot too, hilarious
Nov 06th 2020
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Count Every Jawn
Nov 06th 2020
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I had a few arguments with friends in PA and GA who said their vote
Nov 06th 2020
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Biden leading in Penn
Nov 06th 2020
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God this is so beautiful to watch
Nov 06th 2020
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STOP THE COUNT!!!
Nov 06th 2020
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PA...hawked him
Nov 06th 2020
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Philly ran that anchor like a fucking boss.
Nov 06th 2020
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      Dude, she got the Madden speed burst
Nov 06th 2020
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Gotdamn PA just came thru!!!!
Nov 06th 2020
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Didn’t expect to get emotional
Nov 06th 2020
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go to bed, Steve Kornacki is on the board
Nov 06th 2020
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RE: 2020 Election Day Post Pt 2
Nov 06th 2020
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Steve Harvey played Welcome to Atlanta on the radio this morning
Nov 06th 2020
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Run it up on these hoes!!!!
Nov 06th 2020
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For the states with narrow margins in either direction
Nov 06th 2020
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WHATCHU NIGGAS KNOW ABOUT THE DIRTY SOUTH
Nov 06th 2020
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I’m still in disbelief. I was furious on election night
Nov 06th 2020
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you were definitely on an emotional rollercoaster
Nov 06th 2020
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      I scared my white coworker
Nov 06th 2020
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Don’t everybody like the smell of gasoline?!
Nov 06th 2020
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Came for the blue wave, stayed for the blue trickle
Nov 06th 2020
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That's your people though.
Nov 06th 2020
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What mail-ins? I waited 2 1/2 hours in line on purpose fam
Nov 06th 2020
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Blue Chinese Water Torture for 45
Nov 06th 2020
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      As dejected as I was seeing the early results, seeing the states
Nov 06th 2020
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           GOP walking away from him like Henry Hill in jail
Nov 06th 2020
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I was clowning this song on here earlier this week but....
Nov 06th 2020
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Time to bring back MotownPhilly!
Nov 06th 2020
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Haha.. I’ve been singing this shit in my head all morning.
Nov 06th 2020
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I'm on this one right here...
Nov 06th 2020
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Niiice. And yep she had bars lol
Nov 06th 2020
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I’m making a celebration playlist
Nov 06th 2020
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      im holding out hope for some little brother
Nov 06th 2020
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      need something Detroit themed, they carried Michigan to victory
Nov 06th 2020
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      Sada Baby - Slide
Nov 06th 2020
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      Luda/Field Mob - Georgia
Nov 06th 2020
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PA, GA, & MI Thank You!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nov 06th 2020
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This 25th anniversary edition of "Dirty South" is right on time. n/m
Nov 06th 2020
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“We took what we want and left them quiet as Hell.”
Nov 06th 2020
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Good lord, that's just perfect. n/m
Nov 06th 2020
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20th anniversary edition of Stankonia also just came out
Nov 06th 2020
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good news to wake up to
Nov 06th 2020
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You don't have to wait on NC
Nov 06th 2020
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LOL OMG...
Nov 06th 2020
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Lmao this is Xmas for Twitter
Nov 06th 2020
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vox called it... LOL!
Nov 06th 2020
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They warned us for weeks before the election:
Nov 06th 2020
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Yeah but
Nov 06th 2020
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FiveThirtyEight predicted TX for Trump.
Nov 06th 2020
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      I think the issue is that polls really aren't presented that way
Nov 06th 2020
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           Certainly reporters should be clearer about uncertainties.
Nov 06th 2020
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                I was watching NBC last night and
Nov 06th 2020
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306. Landslide. Blowout. Historic
Nov 06th 2020
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True.. but it’s like telling someone how to ride a rollercoaster
Nov 06th 2020
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      there was too much uncertainty on election night
Nov 06th 2020
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So what's the most likely way the Supreme Court gets involved?
Nov 06th 2020
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I don't think it can go to the Supreme Court yet
Nov 06th 2020
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There's no way for them to get involved right now
Nov 06th 2020
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i mean, if they WANT a civil war...otherwise, they ain't doing shit.
Nov 06th 2020
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margins too big. its over. relax.
Nov 06th 2020
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^^^^^^
Nov 06th 2020
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cases have to make their way up there
Nov 06th 2020
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the only case they had with the supreme court (that they telegraphed)
Nov 06th 2020
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What I'm also bumping this morning:
Nov 06th 2020
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Thumbs up on the Yall so stupid
Nov 06th 2020
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Help me understand this senate situation. There's something I'm missing
Nov 06th 2020
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Senate is sworn in on January 3rd
Nov 06th 2020
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All the polls & "experts" were saying Dems would gain control of Senate
Nov 06th 2020
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The 48 includes Bernie and Angus.
Nov 06th 2020
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This is what I was missing
Nov 06th 2020
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i like how BBC explains it.
Nov 06th 2020
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Lord of the Rings lol
Nov 06th 2020
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I’m cryin’
Nov 06th 2020
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lol
Nov 06th 2020
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LOL
Nov 06th 2020
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I’m laughing and crying so hard right now!!
Nov 06th 2020
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Philly Dancing to Trump’s Campaign Song
Nov 06th 2020
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Fuckin hate Philly as a sports town but today, I celebrate with them
Nov 06th 2020
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Ain’t No Stoppin’ the Count
Nov 06th 2020
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Rush is crying today... screaming it was stolen
Nov 06th 2020
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"patriots" keep falling for the philly special
Nov 06th 2020
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Steve Bannon permanently suspended from Twitter for beheading threar
Nov 06th 2020
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      The other person was Christopher Wray, the head of the FBI
Nov 06th 2020
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      For what? Not arresting Obama and Hunter?
Nov 06th 2020
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           I'm guessing it's not for opening an investigation on Biden.
Nov 06th 2020
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      45's supporters are amoral and calling for a coup
Nov 06th 2020
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glad he gets to see this before he croaks
Nov 06th 2020
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      lulz
Nov 06th 2020
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remember when we were asking if kamala was the right vp pick?
Nov 06th 2020
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the pros far outweighed the cons on the pick
Nov 06th 2020
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yup like our brother vex pointed out (lol)
Nov 06th 2020
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she shored up black (women) support?
Nov 06th 2020
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      she shored up the level of support *he needed*.
Nov 06th 2020
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      exit polls take mail-ins into account
Nov 06th 2020
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           how do exit polls take mail-ins into account?
Nov 06th 2020
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                They poll the people who mailed in their ballots
Nov 06th 2020
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                     but 1st that requires people to self identify that they voted by mail.
Nov 06th 2020
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                          So you don't trust exit polls, but you trust Diddy videos?
Nov 06th 2020
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                               what kinda price of tea in china question is this?
Nov 06th 2020
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                                    You said, and I quote...
Nov 07th 2020
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      Have you looked at the numbers of who black women voters supported?
Nov 06th 2020
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           Same numbers everybody else is citing:
Nov 06th 2020
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The shy Trump voter is real. Haven’t seen no big ass flags up by my gi...
Nov 06th 2020
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they will all disappear back into the shadows...
Nov 06th 2020
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ol paperbag head ass trump voters
Nov 06th 2020
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the shy trump voter will be overstated as a phenomenon.
Nov 06th 2020
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i envy you. they flag HARD in the Triad
Nov 06th 2020
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RE: The shy Trump voter is real. Haven’t seen no big ass flags up by m...
Nov 06th 2020
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btw biden won partly because hes a centrist.
Nov 06th 2020
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so what happened down ballot?
Nov 06th 2020
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from reply #328
Nov 06th 2020
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      so if Trump (as bad as he is) still made voters go straight-ticket R
Nov 06th 2020
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           My personal opinion is that it's a lot of this
Nov 06th 2020
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           the party needs to take some time imo
Nov 06th 2020
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                100% agree. like, while socialism was a deal-breaker in Florida
Nov 06th 2020
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                The party's biggest weakness imo.
Nov 06th 2020
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           who are the progressive dem office holders from georgia?
Nov 06th 2020
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                I see your points, but I fight against Dems catering to centrism
Nov 06th 2020
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                     hey man we are a dumb nation. we are a white nation.
Nov 06th 2020
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                          we are. this election was proof of that.
Nov 06th 2020
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omg reeq lol. like, you can't even wait for the jubilation to subside?
Nov 06th 2020
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we can walk and chew gum babygirl. :)
Nov 06th 2020
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This is the teaching moment.
Nov 06th 2020
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If we want to maintain, the self analysis is so needed
Nov 06th 2020
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Easy to say on Friday lol
Nov 06th 2020
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i think its toxic to lean into the word socialism/socialist
Nov 06th 2020
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OK, so change it from democratic socialism to social democracy
Nov 06th 2020
349
exactly...Dems need to tighten up messaging
Nov 06th 2020
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No you’re on point.
Nov 06th 2020
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^^^^
Nov 06th 2020
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social democracy isn't the same as democratic socialism, tho.
Nov 06th 2020
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that's fair, but Bernie's the one who points to these countries
Nov 06th 2020
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      He does, you're right.
Nov 06th 2020
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great minds. i just posted this in reply #355
Nov 06th 2020
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Dems suck at propaganda
Nov 06th 2020
369
RE: Easy to say on Friday lol
Nov 06th 2020
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      what are the swing districts that 6 m4a sponsors won?
Nov 06th 2020
366
           RE: what are the swing districts that 6 m4a sponsors won?
Nov 06th 2020
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This is probably mostly true.
Nov 06th 2020
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^^^^^^^
Nov 06th 2020
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If this was true, biden wouldn't have struggled.
Nov 06th 2020
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Biden DIDNT struggle
Nov 06th 2020
367
The race was/is being decided by a few thousand votes in key states
Nov 06th 2020
372
We must be looking at different final results
Nov 06th 2020
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      look at the margin in GA, NV, WI, PA, and AZ
Nov 06th 2020
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           Look at the margin in GA?!? Man we talking about GA?!?!?`
Nov 06th 2020
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           ok this is a good point too tho lol
Nov 06th 2020
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           right! The lesson from GA is how do we repeat it?
Nov 06th 2020
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           Ok, leave GA out if you want, still doens't erase the thin margins
Nov 06th 2020
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           You're correct. It's like.. an NBA team winning Game 7 in OT 148-145
Nov 06th 2020
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lol
Nov 06th 2020
430
You’re operating on a Tuesday to Wednesday level understanding
Nov 06th 2020
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biden won the most votes of any prez candidate ever.
Nov 06th 2020
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youre 48 hrs behind breh.
Nov 06th 2020
377
Lmao yep
Nov 06th 2020
380
lol.
Nov 06th 2020
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lol dude stopped the count
Nov 06th 2020
423
Um. When you look up which human received the most votes in history
Nov 06th 2020
385
That makes sense when its a pandemic and more people are voting
Nov 06th 2020
434
he beat an incumbent
Nov 06th 2020
394
      thats more impressive than people realize
Nov 06th 2020
401
      We gotta remember the context. It was in the middle of a pandemic
Nov 06th 2020
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           dems definitely could have done better
Nov 06th 2020
416
           it was also against an incumbent with the most consistently high
Nov 06th 2020
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           Well I really would to try and put myself in those voters' shoes
Nov 06th 2020
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           Dems refused to knock on doors and campaign
Nov 06th 2020
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           The fact we were on here anxious and biting our nails is sad.
Nov 06th 2020
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      right if anything he overperformed recent history
Nov 06th 2020
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bad take.
Nov 06th 2020
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ok you just said below that biden won because of black voters.
Nov 06th 2020
402
      Didnt Stacey Abrams help organize voters and flip GA?
Nov 06th 2020
442
      RE: Didnt Stacey Abrams help organize voters and flip GA?
Nov 06th 2020
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      oh you thought stacey abrams was a 'progressive'?
Nov 06th 2020
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           That's the point tho, Reeq. Stacey *isn't* a lefty but still activates
Nov 06th 2020
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           i was moreso talking about *politicians* who have won elections
Nov 06th 2020
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           bernie has been very generous to the DNC. im aware.
Nov 07th 2020
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      ok so re: identity politics
Nov 06th 2020
461
I swear, if the message that Democrats take from this is...
Nov 06th 2020
407
      you think black people arent moderates?
Nov 06th 2020
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      I think you don't flee the progressive voters of any race
Nov 06th 2020
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           you dont flee progressive voters.
Nov 06th 2020
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                Yeah, now you're setting up straw men.
Nov 06th 2020
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      True
Nov 06th 2020
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      btw the premise of much of your analysis is flat out wrong.
Nov 06th 2020
445
For all those who blame defund the police for hurting results
Nov 06th 2020
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Okay Vex
Nov 06th 2020
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"defund the police" is still bad marketing and needs to be renamed
Nov 06th 2020
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Agreed, I always thought they should go with Define the police
Nov 06th 2020
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      Yo that shit is mad existential lol
Nov 06th 2020
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      they should leave the word police out of a slogan entirely imo.
Nov 06th 2020
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there's nothing in that tweet about defund the police
Nov 06th 2020
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seriously. dude came through with the mo bamba reach.
Nov 06th 2020
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which is also Vex-like
Nov 06th 2020
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      its uncanny.
Nov 06th 2020
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      y'all really got me on your mind
Nov 06th 2020
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RE: there's nothing in that tweet about defund the police
Nov 06th 2020
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      and there are far better ways to go about enacting this change
Nov 06th 2020
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      BLM is not defund the police
Nov 06th 2020
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           He's Canadian
Nov 06th 2020
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           Goodness that was such a frustrating conflation
Nov 06th 2020
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           It was one of the main chants during the countless BLM protests.
Nov 07th 2020
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                i didn't say there's no connection, i'm saying they're not interchangabl...
Nov 07th 2020
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Fuck you
Nov 06th 2020
429
In the end... it came down to Black people.
Nov 06th 2020
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Yup. Everything on their platform for black america they need to delive...
Nov 06th 2020
400
Carried this shit on our fucking backs.
Nov 06th 2020
446
a friend just sent me this video.. LOL!
Nov 06th 2020
412
*spoiler alert*
Nov 06th 2020
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should we worry about legalities?
Nov 06th 2020
417
No. They're literally grasping at straws
Nov 06th 2020
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damn. not sure if I should laugh or cry...
Nov 06th 2020
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No
Nov 06th 2020
424
I'm trying to figure out the GOP long game here
Nov 06th 2020
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It's not a GOP game as much as it's a Dipshit in Charge game
Nov 06th 2020
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I'm sure Ghouliani is telling him he's got a shot this way
Nov 06th 2020
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      uhhh, you're not wrong per this:...
Nov 06th 2020
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           wait, doesn't that mean i'm right? lol
Nov 06th 2020
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btw folks personally im a super lefty like just about everyone on here.
Nov 06th 2020
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RE: btw folks personally im a super lefty like just about everyone on he...
Nov 06th 2020
439
whats your take on the 100 million + people that dont vote
Nov 06th 2020
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most of those voters are white.
Nov 06th 2020
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      RE: most of those voters are white. <- end of thread
Nov 06th 2020
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And that’s why nothing will get done because of your acceptance of it.
Nov 06th 2020
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this isnt a chicken or egg argument fam.
Nov 06th 2020
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      I have to emphatically disagree with you here
Nov 06th 2020
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           notice the article you posted is an *opinion* piece.
Nov 06th 2020
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                Provide facts on the China situation?
Nov 06th 2020
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Thank you for sharing this, no snark lol
Nov 06th 2020
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Right. This is where Reeq always tells on himself:
Nov 06th 2020
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fam you constantly say i didnt do shit that i actually did.
Nov 06th 2020
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      you can spin anything away in hindsight - just be consistent, that's all...
Nov 07th 2020
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does 'ample support' = majority?
Nov 06th 2020
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      The entire field had to drop out for JB to win more than a few counties
Nov 06th 2020
467
           biden won easily when it became a 2 candidate race.
Nov 06th 2020
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                Ok well, agree to disagree. lol. You're kinda just spinning what I said
Nov 06th 2020
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Not reading all of that. with all due respect
Nov 07th 2020
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Theyre really afraid to be the first ones to call it.
Nov 06th 2020
449
they just like the ratings.
Nov 06th 2020
451
Foxnews fucked itself calling AZ for Biden early
Nov 06th 2020
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Nah milking this out is big money for the networks
Nov 06th 2020
469
The Lincoln Project raised $67 million this cycle.
Nov 06th 2020
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Aside from Drumf, the biggest loser is the Lincoln Project
Nov 06th 2020
459
Lincoln Project was a hugely successful grift. They caked up!
Nov 06th 2020
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It's shortsighted to shit on the Lincoln Project.....
Nov 06th 2020
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these niggas want a do over lol.
Nov 06th 2020
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Wow. I woulda thought it would have been all positive vibes in here
Nov 06th 2020
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Yeah Doug Jones knew he was a temp
Nov 06th 2020
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I give Doug Jones credit for voting for removal though. He knew that shi...
Nov 06th 2020
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good to see you back playboy.
Nov 06th 2020
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make an obama post. he'll come
Nov 06th 2020
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Hahahahaha oh man
Nov 06th 2020
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Lol! Reeq said walk and chew gum at the same time
Nov 06th 2020
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Lol thank you. You and reeq are probably the most level headed
Nov 06th 2020
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      lol!
Nov 06th 2020
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we take all Ws
Nov 06th 2020
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Thank goodness you’re back
Nov 07th 2020
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I haven't watched cable news for about 5 years
Nov 06th 2020
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Oh and defund the police was in EVERY single GOP attack here
Nov 06th 2020
482
Meanwhile people in NYC that were savaged by Giuliani overpolicing
Nov 06th 2020
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      What? The slogan is problematic and was used a cudgel in campaign
Nov 06th 2020
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           RE: What? The slogan is problematic and was used a cudgel in campaign
Nov 07th 2020
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           I stand corrected. I wonder what polling on that term would be now,
Nov 07th 2020
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           No, of course not
Nov 07th 2020
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                i don't think anyone here has a problem with reallocating resources
Nov 07th 2020
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                     Bro, we gotta keep pushing for shit we believe in.
Nov 07th 2020
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                          yep
Nov 07th 2020
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                          BLM says exactly what it means
Nov 07th 2020
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                               Well police didn't always exist in this country
Nov 07th 2020
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                                    i agree with everything you said
Nov 07th 2020
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                                         No I hear you. I wish there was a better way to say it concisely.
Nov 07th 2020
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                                              i get the appeal, but is the goal just to agitate?
Nov 07th 2020
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                                                   No people believe in it, it's not just to agitate for the sake of agitat...
Nov 07th 2020
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                                                        fair point. i still disagree
Nov 08th 2020
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so trump is asking supporters to donate to a legal fund
Nov 06th 2020
492
does he even have enough money for a single recount?
Nov 06th 2020
494
      dude can't raise jill stein money, you hate to see it
Nov 07th 2020
503
           I don’t see how anyone could think this putz is going to run in 2024
Nov 07th 2020
504
Mark Meadows has coronavirus
Nov 06th 2020
499
Oh AOC. Politics is about addition. Not force of will
Nov 07th 2020
506
This post is about republicans and people who worked with trump
Nov 07th 2020
511
Every time I start to like her again she does something annoying
Nov 07th 2020
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I like her
Nov 07th 2020
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nevermind
Nov 07th 2020
520
holy shit is she saying we should make a registry for trump supporters?
Nov 07th 2020
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      Exactly.
Nov 07th 2020
543
More Philly Greatness
Nov 07th 2020
514
Extremely, extremely, good read: Is [45] a Flight Risk?(Politico Swipe)
Nov 07th 2020
515
Assuming the results hold you have wonder what the other side will do...
Nov 07th 2020
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      I've taken comfort in the fact that there hasn't been much word of
Nov 07th 2020
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           I feel like the Gretchen Whitmer thing was a precursor...
Nov 07th 2020
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                Very true. Good point
Nov 07th 2020
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How ‘Defund the Police’ Became a Flashpoint in Competitive N.Y. Race...
Nov 07th 2020
518
AOC echoing a lot of things said on here
Nov 07th 2020
519
CNN called it then MSNBC
Nov 07th 2020
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finally
Nov 07th 2020
526
BYE BITCH
Nov 07th 2020
525
Lmao
Nov 07th 2020
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im in the suburbs and people on my street are honking their horns lol.
Nov 07th 2020
527
Sitting in the Cleveland airport. Few old folks trying to get away from...
Nov 07th 2020
531
NIGGA we made it
Nov 07th 2020
528
We did it!
Nov 07th 2020
529
this weak ass negro van jones.
Nov 07th 2020
530
FUCK Van Jones
Nov 07th 2020
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dude tryna act like we aint see this:
Nov 07th 2020
566
lulz
Nov 07th 2020
544
yes! i laughed when his ass started crying FOH
Nov 07th 2020
579
Fuck yeah! So happy its being called.
Nov 07th 2020
532
Finally
Nov 07th 2020
533
Joe ByeDon!
Nov 07th 2020
537
Donald LOST.
Nov 07th 2020
539
yub nub indeed
Nov 07th 2020
540
Even Drudge Report with no mercy
Nov 07th 2020
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...
Nov 07th 2020
542
Now go home and get your fuckin shine box
Nov 07th 2020
545
YYYYYEEEESSSSSSSSS
Nov 07th 2020
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GTFO DONNIE
Nov 07th 2020
547
btw i think all those new age black republican candidates lost.
Nov 07th 2020
548
It’s not raining in San Diego today, those are trump/MAGA tears
Nov 07th 2020
549
Georgians we have to stay engaged. And be prepared for the ads to
Nov 07th 2020
550
i wish we saw more of that side of him during the primary!
Nov 07th 2020
551
He's trying to get out in front of stuff about his ex wife
Nov 07th 2020
558
I hope Warnock keeps that same energy
Nov 07th 2020
580
      What are jim Clyburn and the “like” telling him to do?
Nov 07th 2020
592
Funny how GOP pivoting Biden “has to” listen to the other side
Nov 07th 2020
552
the media helps them with this too.
Nov 07th 2020
554
He picked up steam. He had good ads and they were on frequently
Nov 07th 2020
557
      Wrong spot lol. This was for reply 551
Nov 07th 2020
564
           lol i figured.
Nov 07th 2020
568
word
Nov 07th 2020
561
they acting like trump didnt install a bunch of "acting" heads
Nov 07th 2020
569
They can FOH. Even without the Senate, Biden should do whatever...
Nov 07th 2020
562
man listen. a sick cycle.
Nov 07th 2020
567
tfw your wife didnt even want you to win.
Nov 07th 2020
553
niggas cheering on the usps
Nov 07th 2020
555
s/o jim clyburn btw.
Nov 07th 2020
556
^^^
Nov 07th 2020
560
Absolutely
Nov 07th 2020
572
^^^
Nov 07th 2020
619
Pretty good few weeks as a liberal Los Angeles sports fan tbh
Nov 07th 2020
563
^^^
Nov 07th 2020
565
https://twitter.com/Money23Green/status/1325134299075543042
Nov 07th 2020
570
media growing balls again.
Nov 07th 2020
571
Remember when Tulsi destroyed Kamala’s career
Nov 07th 2020
573
lol thank God biden didnt run his campaign for twitter.
Nov 07th 2020
581
that was literally her peak
Nov 07th 2020
586
Lol oh boy
Nov 07th 2020
589
damn i wish i could do something like this:
Nov 07th 2020
574
chet hanks:
Nov 07th 2020
575
Bruh, someone called him Shabba Hanks
Nov 07th 2020
576
lol
Nov 07th 2020
582
Class act. We need more of this
Nov 07th 2020
578
i legit didnt know which way he was gonna go.
Nov 07th 2020
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this makes me extremely uncomfortable. I couldn't watch the whole thing.
Nov 07th 2020
588
Lmao
Nov 07th 2020
598
LOL @ Aubrey Huff
Nov 07th 2020
577
Yo I JUST discovered this fucker. His Twitter pic is HILARIOUS
Nov 07th 2020
583
      Being from the Bay, we've been subjected to his horseshit for years
Nov 07th 2020
587
somebody in the trump campaign did this on purpose right?
Nov 07th 2020
591
Embarrassing
Nov 07th 2020
615
«Veep was not this good» L M F A O
Nov 08th 2020
629
Ding dong the witch is dead.
Nov 07th 2020
593
Physician heal thyself first! Enjoy
Nov 07th 2020
595
you feel better?
Nov 07th 2020
596
      Quite. Knowing how wrong u were, about everything, is gratifying.
Nov 07th 2020
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           lol get that hate out of your heart playboy.
Nov 07th 2020
601
I would love nothing more than this tbh
Nov 07th 2020
600
Serious question:
Nov 07th 2020
604
man, i'm just happy these soul of the party debates will take place
Nov 07th 2020
605
      RE: man, i'm just happy these soul of the party debates will take place
Nov 07th 2020
606
Oh and Chappelle on SNL tonight
Nov 07th 2020
597
i got superstitious when i heard that last week
Nov 07th 2020
603
      I was mad at that late Tuesday night lol
Nov 07th 2020
614
nm
Nov 07th 2020
607
Were they even involved in this?
Nov 07th 2020
608
Joe crushin it right now
Nov 07th 2020
609
watching biden/harris speak...i cant believe its only been 4 years.
Nov 07th 2020
610
there go hunter. i know maga extra salty.
Nov 07th 2020
611
LMAO
Nov 07th 2020
617
seriously
Nov 07th 2020
612
it’s been a long ass four years
Nov 07th 2020
613
      Dead ass after I biked past Washington Square Park today I got emotional
Nov 07th 2020
618
i forgot about symone sanders. people aint showing her enough love.
Nov 07th 2020
616
^^^^ he should have shouted her out by name. And Lisa Blunt Rochester
Nov 07th 2020
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this clown:
Nov 07th 2020
625
I was watching live he later jumped back in and corrected it after I’m...
Nov 07th 2020
627
Resources for phonebanking for the GA Senate runoffs?
Nov 08th 2020
630
This whole Four Seasons thing is great
Nov 08th 2020
631
It's so unbelievable, but so not unsurprising at the same time...
Nov 08th 2020
632
it had to be intentional.
Nov 08th 2020
633
1st candidate to win 51% of the vote against an incumbent since fdr.
Nov 08th 2020
634
My Trumpette friend has been posting recount stuff all day
Nov 08th 2020
635

Buddy_Gilapagos
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1. "Come on man. You know there is a much more clever post title"
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given it has turned into election DAYS.


There is still time to edit.


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2. "*Election week"
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3. "I despise Huffpost's headlines....."
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"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"

  

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4. "does Stacey want to run the party? "
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Lets make it happen...

  

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178. "I've only heard her mention Governor and a future Pres run in interviews..."
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And she was obviously open to VP during the veepstakes. So who knows.

I kinda hope she *doesn't* want party boss tho tbh lol

Seems like a super-thankless job that tends to destroy ones political capital with the electorate.

They're always the go-to scapegoat for Dem failures... even issues they had little to do with.

  

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Oak27
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5. "Anybody's states pass any interesting measures?"
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I saw Mississippi voted on a new flag to replace their old, racist one.

Saw a bunch of states passed weed.

Only thing interesting on the Mass ballot was ranked choice voting for state elections but that lost 55-45.

  

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8. "These 2 were the ones that I was most concerned about."
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Florida added a constitutional amendment to raise the minimum wage to $15. And they shot down an amendment to have open primaries.

  

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11. "a few in CO"
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passed paid family leave

vetoed some BS banning late term abortions

passed joining the popular vote compact

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12. "can you explain this one?"
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>passed joining the popular vote compact

what I interpreted this as was no matter what happens with the vote in Colorado, CO is going to give their EVs to whoever wins in the popular vote in the country?

  

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18. "Yes, thats pretty much it"
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https://www.cpr.org/2020/11/04/colorado-will-join-the-national-popular-vote-compact-proposition-113/

Its basically a hack to get around the EC, as actually abolishing it would take much more effort.

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mista k5
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19. "the key being it doesnt go into effect until theres enough for 270"
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did other states vote on it this year?

i looked into it the other day and was surprised to see how many and which states were pending on it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Popular_Vote_Interstate_Compact#:~:text=The%20National%20Popular%20Vote%20Interstate,and%20the%20District%20of%20Columbia.

PA, OH, VA and SC are all considering it. it wouldnt be enough for it to go into effect but much closer than i thought.

  

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26. "Supreme Court just ruled on this (swipe)"
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https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2020/07/14/supreme-courts-faithless-electors-decision-validates-case-for-the-national-popular-vote-interstate-compact/

On July 6, 2020, the U.S. Supreme Court unanimously ruled that states have the power to require presidential electors to vote for their party’s candidate for president.

More specifically, the decision allows states to pass laws requiring presidential electors to cast their votes in a manner that faithfully reflects their commitment to vote for the person they promised to choose when they were nominated as an elector.

Supporters of a popular vote for president should understand two important and positive things about the court’s decision. First, the ruling underscores the fact that Article 2, Section 1 of the Constitution accords states broad power over their electors. Justice Kagan wrote in the opinion for eight justices:

“Article II, section 1’s appointments power gives the States far-reaching authority over presidential electors, absent some other constitutional constraint. As , each State may appoint electors ‘in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct.’ … This Court has described that clause as ‘conveying the broadest power of determination’ over who becomes an elector.”

The opinion goes on:

“The Constitution is barebones about electors. Article II includes only the instruction to each State to appoint, in whatever way it likes, . The Twelfth Amendment then tells electors to meet in their States, to vote for President and Vice President separately, and to transmit lists of all their votes to the President of the United States Senate for counting. … That is all.”

Justice Thomas reached the same conclusion as the other justices, but he (and Justice Gorsuch) said that the 10th Amendment provided a basis for the decision. Thomas wrote that the “powers related to electors reside with States to the extent that the Constitution does not remove or restrict that power. Thus, to invalidate a state law, there must be ‘something in the Federal Constitution that deprives the the power to enact such a measure.’”

This clear reaffirmation of the power of states to appoint their electoral votes “in whatever way it likes” supports the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact and Article II, section 1 upon which National Popular Vote is based. States have broad authority over their electors, and nothing in this case would suggest this plenary power would suddenly be limited if the states’ electors were awarded to the National Popular Vote winner.

And second, the Court’s decision reinforces the validity of the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact. Under National Popular Vote, states that combine for at least 270 electoral votes agree to award their electors to the presidential candidate who wins the most individual votes across the nation. (Fifteen states and the District of Columbia, totaling 196 electoral votes, have already passed the measure.)

In the 18 states currently without faithless elector laws, the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact would operate in a manner identical to the system that they have been using for over 200 years. In these states (which currently use the state-by-state winner-take-all method of awarding electoral votes), the presidential electors are chosen by the political party whose presidential candidate receives the most popular votes inside the state, and there are no additional requirements placed upon the elector.

The National Popular Vote Interstate Compact would operate in the same way, except that the presidential electors would be persons chosen by the political party whose presidential candidate receives the most popular votes across all 50 states and the District of Columbia.

Interestingly enough, after 23,529 electoral votes in 58 presidential elections between 1789 and 2016, the vote of Samuel Miles in 1796 was the only case where an electoral vote was cast for president in an unfaithful way by an elector who may have thought his vote could affect the outcome. (See section 2.12 of the book Every Vote Equal.) In their decision, the justices also noted that “… faithless voters have never come close to affecting an outcome.”

However, during the same period (1789 to 2016), there have been a number of “grandstanding” presidential electors—that is, electors who cast a deviant vote for president knowing that their vote would not affect the outcome in the Electoral College.

Prior to 2016, there had never been more than one grandstanding presidential elector in any given election. Having seven faithless electors in one year (2016) was unusual. All of the faithless electors in 2016 were well aware, at the time they voted, that their vote would not affect the outcome in the Electoral College because everyone knew that Donald Trump had won 36 more electoral votes than required for election.

Given the amount of publicity received by the grandstanding faithless electors in 2016, each political party can be expected to be extremely careful in 2020 about vetting the people they nominate for the position of presidential elector. If the political parties do their job carefully and well, faithless electors cannot have any effect on the outcome of a presidential election—under either the current system or the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact.

  

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17. "DC decriminalized shrooms and Virginians approved of a ballot measure"
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that will establish a bipartisan commission on redistricting, independent of the state legislature

  

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28. "Oregon decriminalized all drugs too "
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Choosing to use the money otherwise spent on incarceration of addicts on treatment instead


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25. "Nebraska no longer allows slavery as a form of punishment!"
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...Seriously. We voted on that issue. 32% voted to keep it.


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339. "a few cool things from what i have read"
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$15 min wage in florida

nevada voted for marriage equality

arizona voted to fund schools by taxing high wage income earners


plus the others that have been mentioned.

  

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6. "Hey, yall disappointed in LGBTQ & Latinos, or just black men?"
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Trying to see something...

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7. "Why on earth would be disappointed in black voters right now?"
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https://twitter.com/karensbernstein/status/1324070275642806275?s=21


They’re literally saving our asses. Once again btw

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15. "jig is up fr. the way ive seen people speak on black male voters"
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despite over 3/4 of us voting blue is wild.

"They used to call me Baby Luke....but now? The whole damn 2 Liiiive Crew."

  

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27. "i could see why black men in Bmore wouldve voted for her"
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https://twitter.com/kimKBaltimore/status/1323694366863622145


but the sole blame is Latinos

take a message

  

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32. "blame for...?"
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>but the sole blame is Latinos

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33. "RE: blame for...?"
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https://www.wsj.com/articles/latino-voters-drifted-from-democrats-in-florida-and-texas-11604582691

take a message

  

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35. "nope. that's not helpful."
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Dems need to work to get Latino votes instead of taking them for granted. no minority group deserves blame for any Democratic position.

because if the same percentage of white people voted for Biden as the percentage of Latinos who voted Biden, this election would've been over Tuesday.

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42. "just noticed her name is KimK LOL"
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that feels very on brand for her


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9. "Hispanics/Latinos trip me out"
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I new for years but not at this fervor.

  

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30. "what about this election trips you out "
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70. "just how many were trumpers (for whatever reasons)"
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Damn near everyone who is Hispanic at my job was for Trump and the ones I know personally. They all spoke about not wanting open boarders (like it was. badge of courage to say so etc) but NADA about the administrations handling of the economy, covid, child separation, the racism aspects, etc

Like the poster said at the end of this thread, I wonder if assimilation is the key, and of so..wtf? They cant be that naive.

  

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31. "the problem is viewing that group as a monolith, Mexicans, Puerto Ricans..."
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Cubans, etc. are all very different people

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63. "no shit sherlock"
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>Cubans, etc. are all very different people


really?? tell me more!

  

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67. "delete "
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sssss

  

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74. "I wasn't necessarily trying to inform you genius, I'm talking about..."
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political views and approaches

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78. "go siddown somewhere "
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>political views and approaches


again..duh! youre not actually schooling anyone on this primary shit...please go siddown somewhere

  

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147. "actually feel free to STFU also with your pointless posts"
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10. "I just figured out how the whole Trump increased his votes among X group"
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is a shame.

If the pool of voters increased dramatically (which it seems it did), then of course it will increase among all groups. The number can increase and it doesn't have to mean Trump gained support, in fact the increased number can indicate Trump lost support.

For example, Like lets say the voting pool is up 20% across the board. So if 100 people voted in 2016 now its 120. and if 15 black people voted in 2016 then 18 black people voted in 2020. If 3 black people voted for Trump in 2016 and 4 black people voted in 2020, yeah the raw number is up since 2016, but now since 18 black people voted in 2020 the percentage of black people voting for trump is actually down.




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13. "im trying to wrap my head around the numbers"
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mostly what im seeing is there is a big decrease in third party vote which was split pretty evenly.

7.8 million people voted third or other in 2016, so far 2.3 million did the same in 2020.

both biden and trump increased their turnout by 109% so far.

overall turnout is 105% compared to 2016 so far.

voting age population and voting eligible population increased by 103% so there is a bigger turnout by any measure this year.

so yeah more voters decided they didnt want trump but just as many voters decided yeah i do want trump.

  

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16. "Hasn't the story been that Trump's percentage of X group increased?"
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I haven't seen any stories about the raw number, just the percentage.

https://www.vox.com/2020/11/4/21537966/trump-black-voters-exit-polls

  

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21. "But the story you mentioned is weird"
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I was reacting to memes like this I see going around:

https://twitter.com/Essence/status/1324033899027116032/photo/1

but even this Vox story isn't necessarily comparing apples to apples because they are comparing the 2016 Cooperative Congressional Election Study versus the 2020 exit polls by Edison Research and I would bet money that that 2% is within the margin for error when comparing those two different studies.

I would feel much more comfortable with this take if either of the two original pollsters made that analysis, not VOX.

I just think its too early to be making these types of call.


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24. "I see what you're saying"
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Reeq is absolutely right that it doesn't make any sense. But on an anecdotal level (which I know doesn't mean shit), I seem to know a few blacks & latinos that were 45 supporters. I don't think it's out of the question.

Even if it is true that more black men voted for 45, that doesn't in any way diminish the fact that black folks held it down and put our weight on this election.

  

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20. "after talking about how unreliable polling has been this election"
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the same people are pushing dramatic narratives based on exit polling where the sampling is notoriously unreliable because of how differently members of each party voted this election.

trumps supposed increase in support among minority groups was overwhelmingly driven by his increase in support from men in that group. especially hispanics...who had the widest gender gap of any group.

but also...trump supposedly lost a non-insignificant chunk of support from white men. the racial and gender groups he does the best with.

somehow that makes sense to everyone and they just run with it.

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22. "also white people in the media aint shit mayne."
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theyre framing the election around trumps increase (and bidens failure) with minority groups and not about the 70 million morally decayed white people who had no problem voting for this monster.

you got rich media elites talking about how dem party elites are losing touch with basically every group but whole food shoppers. blacks, latinos, (white) working class, rural voters, etc.

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23. "Meanwhile the hoods are powering Biden's win. "
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29. "literally saving the country"
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14. "Clark county registrar dude doesn’t sound like he is built for this "
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To be clear I don’t want that job either lol

But you Can feel his anxiety

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34. "When Nevada gets called for Joe, will fox retract AZ for now?"
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because if they don't they'll have to call the race

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36. "It would be WILD if Fox was the first to call the race for Biden."
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Trump would lose his shit even more than he already has.

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37. "Is it me, but it seems the POLLING at fox have done Trump no favors?"
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Like they are doing stuff, like calling AZ, that MSNBC would be slayed for doing.


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39. "Believe or not, FoxNews apparently has the most accurate desk..."
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...when it comes to calling states. This is post-2000, obviously. But since then, they've reportedly been the best in business in this area.

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38. "they aint retracting shit"
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https://twitter.com/mattdpearce/status/1324435935778414595

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40. "Extrapolation kills politicians everyday, B."
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The predictions or calculations based on current numbers by the news outlets are
comical at times, especially when shit drastically changes.

Like what happened, you said this, fam. But now it’s this!

Back to you, Bob.

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41. "what if the 2 red states that flip are john mccain & john lewis? "
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44. "Proof that karma exists"
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43. "Did it just so happen that the "swing states" are the last states?"
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I am confused, did it just so happen that the swing states also happened to be the last states tabulated or is it the fact that they are the last states tabulated making them the swing states?


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61. "RE: Did it just so happen that the "swing states" are the last states?"
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No, not at all, they’re just the only ones we care about

CA is still at 60% it just doesn’t matter

  

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45. "Assuming Biden doesn’t need it I kinda hope Trump takes AZ "
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Just because of the massive amount of credibility Fox will lose among the deplorables if that happens. Fox will have incorrectly called a state Trump actually won, that no other news org called not even the fake news Nytimes!

I’m torn tho since I definitely want the strongest possible rebuke of Trump also.

  

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46. "I don't think it'll work like that"
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Trump has already called out Fox before, but it still remains the GOP's state news channel.

if it falters because of this, nothing better will come in its place. we'll just have the QAnon Network or something.

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47. "Trump TV"
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> QAnon Network or something.

  

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48. "Good point."
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OANN will ascend to take its place, or some other fringe network that doesn’t even have to take synergy with other parts of a corporate empire into account (like fox does), to keep the crazy slightly in check.

  

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49. "CNN and a few others called AZ as well"
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i just mentioned Fox because.. well you know

even Drudge called AZ yesterday

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50. "Nah. It won't work out that way. Better for Biden to take AZ so the Gho..."
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of John McCain can haunt Trump for the rest of his life.


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51. "I don’t "
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I hope they start to increasingly differentiate themselves from Trumpism


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56. "Hell no. I want him to lose every remaining state so there is no doubt"
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in anyone’s mind this nigga is gone.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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277. "John McCain definitely is having the last laugh now"
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280. "Fuck being cute we want a blowout "
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https://youtu.be/eaaTxVRG06c?t=89

  

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52. "I notice no one has mentioned her, Jo Jorgensen, rather the party"
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she's in. but 1.6 million votes shouldnt be ignored.

is this a wake up call to both major parties?


http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/libertarian-candidate-jo-jorgensen-pulls-some-votes-from-biden-and-trump-calls-election-a-wake-up-call/ar-BB1aJ7aT?ocid=ientp

take a message

  

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54. "WHO"
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68. "she's a political professor and will back to teaching her class next"
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Monday.

take a message

  

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71. "Oh I know. But WHO"
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Jo doesn’t mean jack shit right now

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57. "is that even 1%? "
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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64. "RE: is that even 1%? "
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1.14 percent marks a steep drop-off from Gary Johnson's 3.28 percent in 2016

but she did manage to beat every other third-party and independent candidate in all 50 states and the District of Columbia.

take a message

  

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59. "She pulled a lot more votes from Trump than Biden"
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53. "Please stop paying attention to the circus. "
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i regularly expose my poor brain and eyes to crazy political shit DAILY.

beween my wife and I, I'm the one whos first to say "did you see what in the fuck is happening in X?"

this shit through?

I'm tuning out and its been good.

What the fuck is happeneing? I don't know.

Where we at in the count? I don't know.

When we gonna know? I don't know.


Friends and family: "man, I'm going through it, I've been drinking, not able to sleep..."

me: "Oh man, oh wow"



People cope with uncertainty in many ways, I've just sorta tuned it out.

You only need to know one thing right now. ONE. THING.

Is Biden the president? Is Trump the president?

All this 538, wannabe Nate Silver, string, pushpins and maps in the garage craziness is...like, why give a fuck?

I give no fucks if more black people voted for Trump or if white women did this time than the last.

It just is what it is. Either we got Trump or we don't.

And if we got Trump, don't even break your brain trying understand why people would even vote for him. You didnt get it then, you wont get it now.

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58. "Nigga.... this is the best time to watch these fools cry about this L"
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I get what you are saying but nah...

you consume a decent amount of info from the other side to stay informed and NOW you want people to unplug?

*Turns up the TV*

If Trump was winning I would see your point but now? NOW???


Nigga, just pop the popcorn b, we watching the circus and it’s almost the grand finale

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60. "the higher you go the harder you fall. "
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it's 2020 dude, why you playing as if anything normal will happen? fundamental shit like gravity stopped working a while ago.

I'm not going to get excited over a damn thing until I see Biden's alabaster claw on a bible on a cold January morning.

Until then, I got my eye on the fringes and pits.


I dipped my toe into the pool and the response has not been "well shit, maybe people just don't want to vote for Trump"

nope.

it's been "No no! See? Something has to be up, how...why....that many votes just can't go to Biden, something has to be up"

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80. "I’m here for the circus. "
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Bring on the clowns!!

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62. "folks need to smoke a J and go do something else for a bit"
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go burn a candle. do some yoga. read a book. dive into some pussy. something.

<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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66. "bruh, only one of those things is allowed at work ands it NNN"
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55. "Latino men, assimilation is a bitch"
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Fear of socialism, fear of Jesus, and fear of being not being respected by whites.

Bunch of dumbass bullshit. Im so disappointed in Latinos. They let every one down, really thinking that they'll get the same respect from a piece of shit like trump and his goons.

If a fat guy falls in the woods and there is no one around to see it, do the trees laugh?

  

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65. "^^^^^^^"
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>Fear of socialism, fear of Jesus, and fear of being not being
>respected by whites.
>
>Bunch of dumbass bullshit. Im so disappointed in Latinos. They
>let every one down, really thinking that they'll get the same
>respect from a piece of shit like trump and his goons.

  

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69. "Fam, let's be real, Joe Biden and the Democrats didn't win their votes"
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the era of blaming voters and voting blocks for being 'idiots' needs to end, if for not better reason than we'll never win votes by calling people stupid.

I get that we're all emotional right now, but the move can't be blaming people for their vote - it has to be 'how do we win them over', no matter how right or wrong you think their votes were.

In a generation of swine, the one-eyed pig is king.
-Hunter S. Thompson

  

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72. "I hear the don't blame voters thing. "
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And it is generally true and I get over Dems all the time in all other instances.

But this is the one instance where I am like dunk on the voter because the alternative was Trump and I dunk on anyone whose seen all of this and say, yeah give me more Trump.

This can't be the mindset going forward, but F everyone who voted for Trump.


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73. "I admit they are neglecting the hispanic population in a big way but ..."
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they ok with what Trump etc represents?

>the era of blaming voters and voting blocks for being
>'idiots' needs to end, if for not better reason than we'll
>never win votes by calling people stupid.
>
>I get that we're all emotional right now, but the move can't
>be blaming people for their vote - it has to be 'how do we win
>them over', no matter how right or wrong you think their votes
>were.

  

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85. "as of right now about 47-48% of voters were OK w/Trump"
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I think Democrats need to find a way to reach voters, man. Counter mis-info, share policies, illustrate for people how their lives will be better, be open and honest about ways past policies have failed, and try and win votes.

If we start by assuming 47-48% of the country are just huge pieces of shit, and treating them as such, that's a losing recipe. You gotta find a way to pull people back as much as possible, as painful as it is.

In a generation of swine, the one-eyed pig is king.
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89. "nah the reality is half our nation is unsalvageable"
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if these last two elections haven't made it clear then you'll never see it

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92. "you can't win elections w/less than half the people"
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so if you start by writing off half the people how you gonna win?

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102. "there are plenty of voters in Georgia, Florida and Texas to win those st..."
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for the Dems. the problem is they are not motivated to vote for Dems, because the current DNC strategy is to tip toe and protect the 45% white vote they get at all costs. and minorities should fall in line for their own good. a platform is not "we are not as bad as Trump."

how come white voters can manipulate the Dem strategy over any grievance, but minorities need to just vote 90-10 Dem no matter what?

*looks at current Dem leadership*

oh yeah.

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110. "Very fair point. "
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There's still a huge untapped pool of voters who weren't compelled by either candidate or party to go and vote. It's going to take some self reflections by Democrats to see how you can win them over and get them to turn out.

In a generation of swine, the one-eyed pig is king.
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76. "Normal times, yeah. I've never express it like that before, I've thought..."
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Trump voting is a character and moral flaw. There is nothing redeeming about that man. I can't stand the GOP, but trump, I hate this man. So anyone who voted for him is doneso for me.

Had it been say a standard GOP nominee vs Biden and Latinos voted for him. I'd be upset, but not in the same way I am now.

If a fat guy falls in the woods and there is no one around to see it, do the trees laugh?

  

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79. "if this is a big phuck you from Latinos to what Obama and his party"
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did to them I understand ala immigration/legalization reform.
they gave him plenty of chances but he kept breaking them...so they bounced.

take a message

  

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100. "gop shot down immigration reform in the house 1 year"
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then shot down immigration reform in the senate another year.

people think the dude who did daca and dapa (shot down by republican supreme court) didnt wanna do immigration reform?

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220. "yeah immigration reform died when bitchface Eric Cantor got primaried"
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Gop ran away from that shit like roaches with the light on

if there's a mistake the dems make with latinos its the assumption that the GOP/Trump's stance on immigration is enough to make them blue.

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81. "Nah. YOU cast your vote. They don't. You make that choice."
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I agree in that it's their job to win your vote.

But you cast your vote.

The choices are what they are, and this time it was Trump or Biden.

Trump is TRUMP, and all the baggage that comes with it.

That right there is more than enough to vote for Biden, if for no reason other than to get Trump out of office, because, despite what cynics seem to think.... they are not simply two sides of the same coin, and they are not equally bad.

So if your voting Trump, it's h because you're good with some part of his message, policies, etc enough that it outweighed all of his clear and unarguable negatives

If you're voting Trump because Biden didn't kiss enough babies or visit your state enough times or what have you, that's essentially a tantrum because you didn't get wined and dined enough.

Politicians need to earn our votes, I agree. But the options are the options, and who you vote for is a reflection of yourself and what you value.

On the "blame" front, I struggle with that somewhat. I'm not for wholesale blame of anyone who votes for him, because, frankly, people can be easily swayed in the right situation, by the right people.

I absolutely HATE to say it, but we cannot discount Trump's charisma and persuasiveness, because he taps into very basic sensibilities, no matter how much you/me/we see through it.

I also have a difficult time "blaming" entire groups who are already disenfranchised. Reeq nailed it when he pointed out that his base is still mostly comprised of white racists, so I agree that, in the case of minority groups who didn't shun him the way many of us hoped they would, we shouldn't be laying any specific blame at their feet.

That said, in general, I do feel a way about anyone who votes Trump.

  

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106. "I feel you. 100%. I don't get Trump's appeal AT ALL"
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especially to non-white people.

>That said, in general, I do feel a way about anyone who votes
>Trump.

I think it's more productive long term for Democrats and people pushing policies that will move our country forward to avoid blaming voters, as frustrating as those voters are. It's just a shit instinct in general. I've seen people blame black men, latinos, men, white women, white men (clearly the most culpable group here) for Trump's succes. The more productive question is how do we win them back? how do we win them over? Are our policies good enough or compelling enough?

Biden wasn't even in favor of legalizing weed, which is one of the most bullshit mechanisms that police still have for locking up minorities and poor people. There is a lot democrats could do to meet some of those people half way and give them an even clearer alternative to Trump.

In a generation of swine, the one-eyed pig is king.
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88. "and Trump did?"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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107. "this is always my question."
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the narrative is always that dems failed some group so they went to the gop...who offered what?

like theres this school of thought that the white working class left the dem party to join the far right but will get woo'd back by socialism lol.

if the lack of bottom up economic policy is why they abandoned dems then why are they flocking to the party of tax increases on the working class and no social safety net?

if an intentionally mishandled pandemic (which disproportionately affects hispanics...especially in places like tx) and a horribly mismanaged economic recovery (which also disproportionately affects hispanics) and the barbaric treatment of hispanic immigrants dont persuade them to seek an alternative to trump/repubs...then what will?

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109. "it's the messaging"
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lots of people still believe that Trump is great for the economy

Dems have shitty, shitty messaging to the general public

and part of it is due to the huge divides within the party on how to move forward

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114. "its easier to message when you have no shame in outright lying."
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117. "well Dems are great at losing gracefully"
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I certainly do not think the GOP guerrilla tactics should be normalized by the Dems. but the Dems need to recognize what they are fighting.

I get a lot "they can't do that! hypocrites!" protests from Dems, which a warm blanket for liberals but don't do shit to move the voters they need.

would you say the Dem messaging is cohesive?

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113. ""but, but...what about the 1994 crime bill, tho?" LOL smh..."
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116. "Yes, he did somethig to win their votes. "
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whether it is tangible or real, that's another question. In my mind unless you're rich or really hyped about banning abortion, he probably didn't offer much. My point is you gotta find a way to communicate that, and give them a much better alternative. You can't just come in on some 'man, Latinos really suck'.

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75. "RE: Latino men, assimilation is a bitch"
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83. "Wow, thank you for this. I was upset about the percentage increase for t..."
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but he made the point which would you rather getting 70% of 20 mil votes or getting 68% of 30 mil votes.

Definitely a good point of reference.

Still mad at the trump voters though, lol bunch of dumbasses.

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86. "and I oops, yeah I will stfu now"
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take a message

  

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90. "See! A much smarter person made the point I was trying to make in #10"
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77. "Delete"
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Delete

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Let me guess, I can have "good day" now, right?

  

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82. "*rolls eye*"
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You can’t tell someone how to exercise their vote. Latin Americans are not a static demographic, nor do they have the same relationship with America.

You better pinpoint your Latin target. All Puerto Ricans are American
citizens. All Mexicans are not, so their political agenda is going to be different. illegal Mexicans affect the job markets of legal Mexicans big time.

That’s what I have learned about politics, which has given me a mature perception.

We don’t all have the same agenda

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87. "Nope, I cannot tell anyone how to vote."
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But I can judge and be judge too. I am venting my frustrations. I live in FL, I know very well that Cubans, Venezuelans, Nicaraguans, who fear socialism vote conservative because they fear that. I get it.

The choice is trump, that is what I judge, I would never try to take away someone's vote, but seeing who it goes to definitely is disappointing.

Let trumpy judge me for voting for Biden, I don't care, they may not care that I judge them.

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94. "But what can you judge?"
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If a person has strong views on abortion and immigration, and a lot of Latin Americans do, that’s a different interest and political relationship.....more than likely, they are going to swing conservative.

I have a Nigerian friend who hates Nigeria, and never wants to go back there. And tells me never to go there. America is a paradise to him. On the flip side, and for a lot of African Americans, we want to get out of America because of our history with slavery and police brutality in this country. 2 different American relationships! All that shit is foreign to him.

Those are the elements that guide political affiliations...

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115. "Whenever Biden was confronted about immigration policies"
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He told latino voters to vote for trump.


Biden failed to be held accountable and promise them anything of substance. Its his job to be worth voting for.


You know who DID have good numbers with latino voters?










Guess

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120. "And that's what voters rememberd 'go vote for that other guy'"
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Biden wasn't great on immigration, but the first 100 days plan he outlined on immigration would be better than what Trump offered. So he did a shitty job defining and leading with his actual policies. Also, even though his policies were better, they weren't like light years better, and given his history it was hard to take him at his word that he would really fight to implement those policies and take on the rogue institution that is ICE.



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224. "exactly. "
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"They used to call me Baby Luke....but now? The whole damn 2 Liiiive Crew."

  

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91. "biden within 9k votes in GA according to abc"
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https://abcnews.go.com/Elections/2020-us-presidential-election-results-live-map

2,439,678
2,430,153

  

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93. "as I was saying in the other post, our confidence is rooted in precedenc..."
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historical precedence. the uncounted mail-in votes are coming in from historically Dem areas.



Black America saved our asses. And I will not allow Eric Trump and them to have me shook

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95. "let's go Chatham County!"
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96. "Georgia down to 9k Trump lead. And still tightening."
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97. "Black America saving our undeserving asses "
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in the face of disenfranchisement and attempts to divide our own party

thank you.

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98. "Perdue now at 49.9"
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looking forward to the runoff

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99. "Soon as Georgia flips, this ones going on the IG Story"
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http://youtu.be/_kH_EZF0XqM

  

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101. "you know biden is singing this right now"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzvchBAttIg&ab_channel=BrittanyHowardVEVO



and yes i know the song isnt about the state lol

  

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103. "I've listened to nothing but Outkast the last 24 hours."
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I mean, I know it's stupid but I'm superstitious and wanna know I did my part.

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105. "As Ryan said above me, Nothing but OUTKAST in the headphones "
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TOOK ME A LONG TIME TO GET HERE

I'm TALKING YEARS AND YEARS

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108. "biden gonna come out to his victory speech with pastor troy."
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112. "That’s the dagger right there. "
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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104. "pay close attention to who is celebrating this win"
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and more importantly, who is not.


the venn diagram is so clear

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111. "..."
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https://twitter.com/DrJasonJohnson/status/1324193055025569792

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162. "people who support leftist policies dont vote"
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but

https://twitter.com/IlhanMN/status/1324486045963034625




damn imagine the numbers if we chose a candidate who during a pandemic, the largest protest movement in american history, and climate crisis didnt have a record of being regressive on these exact issues.


yall are old and upset that incrementalism isnt the wave anymore.

people voted for joe because they were terrified and you're satisfied with that.


Downballot progressives are running laps right now. amazing to see

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118. "trumpers mad the repub establishment aint ridin."
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https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/1324453498897932289

https://twitter.com/mattgaetz/status/1324469405812666375

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1324446159939772421

if you can stomach it...take a quick look down their timeline.

its always been weird af to me that the culture of modern day conservatism is basically accepting the fact that everyone like you is lying to each other. but it doesnt matter because the most important thing is that it fits the narrative/agenda true or false.

these folks are knowingly posting obvious disinformation and fake shit to each other and getting riled up by their own lies lol.

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119. "damn this pa vote count is moving pretty fast."
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https://twitter.com/samstein/status/1324486548788809730

biden is gonna end up winning pa and fox news is gonna be the 1st channel to call the election for him lol.

im lovin it (c)

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122. "i guess i'm dumb which is fine..."
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because it says 95% in. so does that mean 5% left to count or 5% of ballots not returned and way more than that to count?

cuz if it's 5% to count, seems like that's not enough votes to overtake a 78K deficit, no?

(how elections REALLY work and are discussed should be taught in school cuz i'm sure i'm one of millions feeling hella dumb right now).

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125. "i believe they mean 5% of the current accepted votes"
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meaning from the estimated total in-person, dropped off, and mailed votes that have been recorded...5% is left to count.

so in this case...should be like 330k left or something like that.

and from the area that theyre mostly coming from...biden has like a 3:1 margin i think.

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123. "i saw a repub conspiracy theory that dems in different states"
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are colluding to delay the results in az and nv because they wanna let pa (bidens birthplace) be the state that puts him over the top and makes him president.

and i actually hope that one is true.

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126. "more tin foil: "
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https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1324493136853262336

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146. "aww, that's cute."
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127. "fox news cant wait to call it lol"
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https://twitter.com/jeremymbarr/status/1324487077115940866

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121. "how much is trump going to brag if he passes Obamas vote count from 08?"
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124. "If he wins, a lot...but you already know"
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128. "I hope Biden hangs Trump's presidential portrait in the bathroom"
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140. "Turn that shit into toiler paper or use it for target practice"
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on the South Lawn

  

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129. "MSNBC cut Trump's speech off. LOL!"
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135. "He was just rambling lies off the top of his head. "
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130. "Am I paranoid for thinking it won't be over after Biden hits 270?"
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I think it's extremely unlikely that Trump will concede, even after every news outlet declares Biden/Harris the winners. I assume there will be weeks of recount demands, and attempts to place his own loyal electors in highly-contested states, to give him Electoral College votes where he lost the popular vote.

Hopefully I'm worried for nothing, but I don't see this truly ending until December or January.



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139. "im kinda encouraged that republicans are kinda keeping their distance."
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like the pa republican party is shooting down that elector scheme that overrides the will of the state voters.

and repub govs and election officials are basically telling him to stfu and let the votes get counted.

even tho im sure they liked the power he gave their party...i get the impression that a lot of them cant wait til he goes away.

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145. "Trump is a coward and insecure"
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I think he'll start to make noises about not conceding, but once Fox and popular republicans start dogging him he'll do it.

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131. "The voter fraud hypothesis: is the claim that Republicans are choir boys..."
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If widespread voter fraud is (according to Republicans) doable, effective, and as history has shown unpenalized, why wouldn't greasy Repubs do it?

The group of people with a win at all cost mentality don't dare go this route? What's the logic?

  

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132. "This is an embarrassment. Dude is like a child"
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133. "This is embarrassing "
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it looked like Bol Bol was diving in the river - Action Bronson

  

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134. "Wait what are y’all referring to?"
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136. "Trumps press conference..."
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He was just spewing lie after lie claiming fraud...

  

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137. "I'm starting to think a lot about city folk vs. country folk"
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In a way that's always kind of lingered as a NE guy but is really coming front and center for me with this election. Every state I look at, particularly the ones that are going to define this election, a pattern stands out again and again:


GA
Just how incredibly Atlanta and its suburbs are affecting the perception of this state's vote specifically

PA
Philly, Pittsburgh, Allentown Blue
majority of counties red

NV
Vegas, Reno blue
Almost everything else red

NE
Omaha, Lincoln blue
Everything else red

WI
Madison, Milwaukee blue
Nearly everything else red

MI
Ann Arbor, Flint, Detroit, Grand Rapids blue
Nearly everything else red

etc. etc. etc.

And specifically because of how our state operates, and how significantly that played into the overnight optimism yesterday and the AM hours of today, that that blue vote in Omaha for a time seemed like the single most significant vote in the country...if we can't kill the electoral college because of what it represents for representation, shouldn't it be more clear than ever that the system as is doesn't represent its state's constituents for BOTH sides?

Would breaking every state up by district be a net negative for progressives? Without running any numbers, I think yes, but I can't ignore how good it feels to say NE is mostly one thing, but I live in the space where it's not.

The map has also been useful to show friends that are incredibly closed minded in this city, because it makes it so abundantly clear that being surrounded by strange looking people with strange sounding ideas often makes their looks and their ideas less and less strange, to the point they might even look and sound normal, and you increasingly find people voting less out of pure self-interest or self-image than a betterment for the people around you or just a general empathy for non-hetero, non-white experiences that are abstractly very easy to relate to but without that face-to-face relationship equally easy to hand wave and other.

This post turned into a rant and I'm sure for even slightly older or just more consistently tuned in people this is nothing new - hell, like I said early it's not especially new for me - but I'm increasingly curious how this country can continue to operate on this Country vs. City mentality, especially when so much of our mainstream idealism and entertainment is rooted in the cowboy ethos of industry squashing individuality and so much of our science fiction being rooted in metros becoming police states.

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138. "Bishop huggin Raheim’s mom, Walt handing Hank that tape...."
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This was that times a million.

This piece of shit literally created an alternate reality with his lies that MILLIONS of inbred retards believe.

FUCK him and anyone who loves him times a billion. I can’t wait until he fucking dies.

But first.......he’s gonna eat this motherfucking L and SWALLOW.

  

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141. "damn biden only down 3600 in ga now."
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https://twitter.com/JesseLehrich/status/1324501138943758336

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmGUKoDXYAI25_f?format=jpg&name=large

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142. "When you choose "progressiveness" over your blackness"
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. https://twitter.com/BenjaminPDixon/status/1324471680241205248?s=19
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165. "black people got hit the hardest by covid."
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You are old and think incrementalism is still the wave.

"They used to call me Baby Luke....but now? The whole damn 2 Liiiive Crew."

  

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143. "these data/polling dudes are really smug pieces of shit."
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https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/1324381490797547522
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uh they became shiny objects because of your fucked up ass polls and projections models.

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144. "so proud of black folks..."
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we are not to be f*cked with lol


  

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149. "particularly black women"
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We are so fucking amazing yet the whole whole world hates our skin, our features, our attitudes. Still we rise.

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151. "**twirls**"
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**finger guns**


  

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157. "Yes. I think I'm more hyped right now about GA/Stacey Abrams/Fair Fight"
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than Biden tbh

Like holy shit sis

THAT is how you flip a state

this generation's fannie lou hamer

I stan so hard






>We are so fucking amazing yet the whole whole world hates our
>skin, our features, our attitudes. Still we rise.

  

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160. "O, she did that."
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I didn't even know until this week what she was doing post loss, but she been out here killing it.

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163. "Hell hath no fury and I'm so here for it lol "
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152. "Particularly black men"
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Let me guess, I can have "good day" now, right?

  

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148. "even murdoch is throwing trump in the trash."
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https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1324506154148515842

im starting to think dude might just quit a month or two early and have pence pardon him for whatever federal crimes he knows he committed.

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150. "Speaking of pence. He’s been realllll quiet since Tuesday "
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When he contradicted trump


Barr too. Even these dudes have their limits

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158. "He tweeted "I stand with the President" right after the speech"
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But I imagine he's not going to be too loud about it. He thinks he can be president in 2024.

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190. "Ahh I see. Must’ve missed that "
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154. "I would think that, but i am pretty sure the state of NY gonna get him f..."
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155. "hopefully."
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153. "Hey! The Emperor has no clothes!! (4 years too late)"
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I really hope this is one of the 'break the spell' type of moments for a lot of people.

Sure there's going to be some people insisting that the Emperor is still wearing clothes, but hopefully a LOT less.

In a generation of swine, the one-eyed pig is king.
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156. "we bout to get our 1st black woman vp fam."
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thats getting overshadowed by all of the noise.

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164. "RE: we bout to get our 1st black woman vp fam."
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>thats getting overshadowed by all of the noise.

Real talk, how ticked off are some white women about this? They have to be at least a little salty, right? Black dude and maybe soon a Black woman? Talk about being in on the heist until you see your cut!

  

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166. "lol so true."
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184. "They had their chance with Hillary"
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But they obviously didn’t want that...

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215. "Yep, white women had their chance to have a white woman President "
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231. "and blew it. these the same women that'll tell their daughters,"
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nieces and granddaughter they can be president of the US while crossing their fingers behind their backs.

take a message

  

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169. "Congrats ❤️"
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206. "Feel lucky to be able to witness it "
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Something to tell the grandkids one day

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232. "and dont forget graduate of an HBCU and AKA w/ a jamaican"
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father, and appeared on the Breakfast Club. white women will feel sick.

take a message

  

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269. "love it"
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281. "AKAs on campuses and workplaces everywhere will be"
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super obnoxious now...

  

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296. "now??? as opposed to...all of time?"
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lol

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495. "Lol"
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prototype

stand ur ground, believe in urself,
believe in love, prepare urself for love, remove the negativity from ur life, and accept the love u kno u deserve

  

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159. "impatience aside, the slow Burn of Plump having to watch this slip away"
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is fucking euphoric

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161. "watching some of the people who sold out for the MAGA gravy train"
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they realized that Papa Trump just crashed the Family Truckster into the ditch on the way to Wally World.

It's like high def slo motion video of watching a bubble pop.

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167. "YUP!!! He deserves a slow, painful demise"
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Not a bullet to the head.

Metaphorically speaking.

  

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168. "its a beautiful sight to behold."
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176. "I’ll admit I hadn’t considered this "
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Hope he dies slow too

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170. "indy/dem senator in alaska says he is expecting the win."
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https://twitter.com/DrAlGrossAK/status/1324520257885773824
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171. "If GA flips, that's going to be the highlight for me. It's symbolic."
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For so many reasons.

The (re)enfranchisement of black voters in that state.

For what happened to Stacey, and how she fought back.

For the passing of John Lewis this year.

The upcoming runoffs.

Just wow.

I've had that luda + field mob on loop since I logged into this post lol

Even just coming within 0.1% has me hype

  

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173. "Stacey should be the new DNC chair "
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179. "Oh hells no lol. I hope not. I've only ever heard her mention trying for"
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Governor again or a future Pres run in interviews.

But who knows.

I'll repost what I said in 178 to stadiq tho:


I kinda hope she *doesn't* want party boss tho tbh lol

Seems like a super-thankless job that tends to destroy ones political capital with the electorate.

They're always the go-to scapegoat for Dem failures... even issues they had little to do with.

  

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182. "They'll appoint her to a plum position that will give her advantage..."
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...to run for Governor or Senator or whatever she wants to do next.

She's more than earned it.

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180. "biden down only 2500."
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https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1324533217311879168

and the split from the last vote dump was biden 1154 and trump 165.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmGUKoDXYAI25_f?format=jpg&name=large

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188. "*twerks*"
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203. "1700 now "
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They shook

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185. "for sure..."
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I panicked. I was so upset by the number of people that still voted for him lol

this is redemption!








  

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189. "right?!"
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>
>this is redemption!
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172. "All skin folk, ain’t Kin folk… https://twitter.com/_r_o_n_e_/status/..."
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https://twitter.com/_r_o_n_e_/status/1324486437857714176?s=21


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174. "It's obv been said ad nauseam but"
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if Biden doesn't end his victory speech with "the American people have spoken, and they have two words for you, President Trump: You're fired." I want my vote back.

  

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177. "He's going to have to be gracious in victory"
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Anything like that and he'll be blamed for "dividing" the country. Yes, I know Dipshit In Chief has committed his whole political career to being divisive, but Biden is going to have to appear to be better than that.

Do and say all the right things, undo all of Drumf executive horseshit, and than quietly send the Justice Department after his ass.

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Oak27
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181. "Fuck. That. Shit."
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Enough of Dems trying to play nice and find middleground. That has gotten them nowhere. Give the Repugs a taste of what it's like before we go back to being absolute pussies.

You think after 4 years of Biden being civil anything is gonna change across the aisle about how they act? NOPE.

  

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186. "There'll be time to be petty and vindictive"
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Namely spending time undoing every single one of Drumf's executive orders and sending the Justice Department after all their asses.

Hell, I believe Pelosi should spend the lame duck session impeaching Drumf, Barr, DeVos, and anyone else she can think of. Let her do the dirty work.

But acceptance speeches have to be about you, not the other guy. Let Drumf skulk off and whine like a bitch in the process. As said by Reeq above, his slow and painful demise is good for now.

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210. "RE: Fuck. That. Shit."
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>Enough of Dems trying to play nice and find middleground.
>That has gotten them nowhere. Give the Repugs a taste of what
>it's like before we go back to being absolute pussies.
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>You think after 4 years of Biden being civil anything is gonna
>change across the aisle about how they act? NOPE.

Not the move.

  

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183. "i wish lol."
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187. "Gotta disagree on this one,fam "
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The sooner we can return to any semblance of normalcy the better

But I understand the sentiment.

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193. "I'm not as concerned about normalcy as I am about not giving..."
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