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"The 2020 Election Day Post"
Tue Nov-03-20 09:19 AM by PimpTrickGangstaClik

          

We gone see

I have to stay off political analyst twitter today. They're doing too much. Talking about Florida partisan turnout numbers in 30 minute windows.

Nah. Can't do that today

  

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today is going to be so long
Nov 03rd 2020
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Prediction: LANSLIDE for BIDEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nov 03rd 2020
2
i put my energy here
Nov 03rd 2020
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My heart says yes but my head says no
Nov 03rd 2020
5
he defnitely got a landslide in some town in N.H.
Nov 03rd 2020
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RE: Prediction: LANSLIDE for BIDEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nov 03rd 2020
9
he will win at least one 'Obama' state
Nov 03rd 2020
10
most likely az imo.
Nov 03rd 2020
25
I hope so, very very very much.
Nov 03rd 2020
22
Ah shit, here we go again.
Nov 03rd 2020
3
lol
Nov 03rd 2020
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present...
Nov 03rd 2020
8
I'm just gonna put this on repeat:
Nov 03rd 2020
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https://protecttheresults.com/
Nov 03rd 2020
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How are we on this whole: SCOTUS/votes counted after Nov 3rd thing?
Nov 03rd 2020
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theres a quote by Bitch McConell and Cum Dump
Nov 03rd 2020
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I don't think it's ballot counting that's the issue on the table*
Nov 03rd 2020
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i see the distinction...
Nov 03rd 2020
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It's a republican pipe dream/talking point.
Nov 03rd 2020
18
They just showed a site in Philly.. that was empty
Nov 03rd 2020
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In general, there are more polling places open on Election Day
Nov 03rd 2020
20
Either way, ya'' are going to learn a lot about America
Nov 03rd 2020
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The past four years have been quite instructive
Nov 03rd 2020
42
i already knew my homestate Fl, was going to Trump, and it
Nov 04th 2020
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Trump is talking to his team in Arlington
Nov 03rd 2020
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You have a link for this? I don’t see it reported anywhere
Nov 03rd 2020
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link
Nov 03rd 2020
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It was playing live on Fox News Business in my breakroom
Nov 03rd 2020
27
he sounds like absolute shit here on fox and friends.
Nov 03rd 2020
33
      lol @ fox & friends defending the network against trumps criticism.
Nov 03rd 2020
35
      suppression polls though
Nov 03rd 2020
49
trump team apparently not confident in pa election day turnout.
Nov 03rd 2020
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the fuckery in PA still has me nervous
Nov 03rd 2020
28
im glad things seem to be a lot calmer than i thought they would be.
Nov 03rd 2020
29
      i just remembered Fox obsessing over the solo New Black Panther
Nov 03rd 2020
36
           classic.
Nov 03rd 2020
39
As prepared? The fuck does that even mean?
Nov 03rd 2020
32
      in terms of ground game and organization.
Nov 03rd 2020
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           It was my impression that Biden focused on digital and phone outreach...
Nov 03rd 2020
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           Yeah, they really bashed Biden for hiding and not knocking on doors
Nov 03rd 2020
43
           If Drumf loses, they're going to blame the campaign, but it's really...
Nov 03rd 2020
47
glenn greenwald with his final summary of the trump 1st term.
Nov 03rd 2020
30
would give him extra credit if he said 'white supremacy'
Nov 03rd 2020
31
other than some wacky tweets, nothings happened
Nov 03rd 2020
34
nope...pretty boring, really
Nov 03rd 2020
Pre-Corona, I agree with this
Nov 03rd 2020
40
smh
Nov 03rd 2020
54
Fuck that dude
Nov 03rd 2020
64
White suburbia San Antonio is prepping
Nov 03rd 2020
38
Lines at the bank in Boerne (30 miles north of SA)
Nov 03rd 2020
53
Please, America, do the right thing
Nov 03rd 2020
44
Why does this have to be a thing? Judge orders sweep of USPS facilities
Nov 03rd 2020
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Becuase REPUBLICANS are AGAINST DEMOCRACY
Nov 03rd 2020
46
right...and it seems like it would be easier for them to
Nov 03rd 2020
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Cause elections have always been about voter suppression
Nov 03rd 2020
50
300k ballots.
Nov 03rd 2020
51
I'm ready for the canvassing text messages to slow the hell down
Nov 03rd 2020
48
where are yall watching election coverage on tv (if at all)?
Nov 03rd 2020
55
PBS news hour for now
Nov 03rd 2020
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i cant watch pbs news hour fam.
Nov 03rd 2020
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      Lmao yeah they’re old timey for sure
Nov 03rd 2020
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I’m a fan of the MSNBC graphics.. lol
Nov 03rd 2020
57
me too! msnbc and nbc got some bomb ass color schemes.
Nov 03rd 2020
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Yeah them too
Nov 03rd 2020
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I like when Kornacki at MSNBC gets amped up
Nov 03rd 2020
61
What Steve Kornacki eats during election week:
Nov 03rd 2020
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https://twitter.com/nyinla2121/status/1323779014549401602?s=21
Nov 03rd 2020
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I can’t stand this white haired dude on CNN
Nov 03rd 2020
70
I've been listening to NYT's The Daily live radio show
Nov 03rd 2020
71
trump canceled his call into the mark levin show.
Nov 03rd 2020
60
Stay classy Georgia
Nov 03rd 2020
65
Florida looking like it's Trump's
Nov 03rd 2020
67
I read Biden was struggling to get votes in Miami Dade
Nov 03rd 2020
68
Hispanics
Nov 03rd 2020
72
Cubans like him like that?
Nov 03rd 2020
75
      That's it
Nov 03rd 2020
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      Sucks that the word socialism was ever brought up in the first place
Nov 03rd 2020
79
           If only Democrats hadn't run the term into the ground
Nov 04th 2020
203
      Has to be
Nov 03rd 2020
78
Not surprised... large amount of Spanish speaking voters.
Nov 03rd 2020
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      Trump hates their asses....fuck is wrong with them?
Nov 03rd 2020
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           Cubans think they are white.
Nov 03rd 2020
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           rich latinos hate poor latinos and black people too
Nov 03rd 2020
93
I blame Bernie.
Nov 03rd 2020
81
      lol facts
Nov 04th 2020
204
Texas got my ears perked up
Nov 03rd 2020
80
i believe dems can still put trump away in nc.
Nov 03rd 2020
82
something going on in ohio.
Nov 03rd 2020
83
Whoaaaa
Nov 03rd 2020
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I will play Bone Thugs all night if Ohio comes through
Nov 03rd 2020
85
Wait, doesnt everyone do this anyway?
Nov 03rd 2020
88
Ohio, Ohio, Ohio.
Nov 03rd 2020
86
Need that Scranton energy to come in big time for Biden
Nov 03rd 2020
87
*sigh* Crenshaw re-elected in TX-02
Nov 03rd 2020
89
good cancelled by bad so far
Nov 03rd 2020
90
fucking mitch mcconnell won
Nov 03rd 2020
91
All that money wasted in that race
Nov 03rd 2020
94
cornyn too in tx
Nov 03rd 2020
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Fucking Lindsey's gonna survive too. And Thom Tillis in NC.
Nov 03rd 2020
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      I’m not optimistic about anything right now
Nov 03rd 2020
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      i cant even begin to deal with this
Nov 04th 2020
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           It's fucking awful.
Nov 04th 2020
395
I’m so mad that COVID didn’t kill this hoe ass mfer
Nov 03rd 2020
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Biden wins NY, I did my part... LOL!
Nov 03rd 2020
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I’m calling California now on the strength of my vote
Nov 03rd 2020
97
Ummm....VA looking funny right now
Nov 03rd 2020
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Is Missouri turning blue!? Oh my! I am so excited.
Nov 03rd 2020
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Nope! No dice.
Nov 03rd 2020
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I feel like I’m being teased.
Nov 03rd 2020
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I’m feeling 2016 all over again. A lot of teases and close calls but l...
Nov 03rd 2020
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man, i'm about to tune out of everything
Nov 03rd 2020
104
Gonna get a little closer in GA, a little closer in TX, NC,
Nov 03rd 2020
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That’s how I feel as well. Trump going to lose the popular vote by
Nov 03rd 2020
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what about the rust belt?
Nov 03rd 2020
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      The rust belt is the trump belt, a lost cause and only expanding
Nov 03rd 2020
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      That's where it gets interesting.
Nov 03rd 2020
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Yup. Deja vu like a mug
Nov 03rd 2020
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I’m confused, lol
Nov 03rd 2020
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In other words it's a wrap for Biden
Nov 03rd 2020
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I take that back
Nov 03rd 2020
110
trump tripling his 2016 margin in florida smh.
Nov 03rd 2020
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Fucking depressing. Our best hope for Florida is climate change
Nov 03rd 2020
115
I wanted to be optimistic going into tonight
Nov 03rd 2020
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the fact that so many of these states are too close to call is good
Nov 03rd 2020
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      They are fucking with us.
Nov 03rd 2020
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      i just refreshed the google page, all states turned red lol
Nov 03rd 2020
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      Those are all done except for AZ
Nov 03rd 2020
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Can we throw Nate Silver and his models away after tonight?
Nov 03rd 2020
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Not just him but all pollsters seem to have gotten it wrong again
Nov 03rd 2020
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yeah pollsters all need to quit
Nov 03rd 2020
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      All this stable race” and less undecided voters seems like BS
Nov 03rd 2020
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People are probably lying when polled
Nov 03rd 2020
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That and I think there's a big bias in who chooses to participate in pol...
Nov 03rd 2020
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If there's a polling error, I think it's Covid.
Nov 03rd 2020
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      No
Nov 03rd 2020
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I was told on here that that was thoroughly debunked.
Nov 03rd 2020
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      It is.
Nov 03rd 2020
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           These results say otherwise (even if Biden wins).
Nov 04th 2020
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i mean, the polls are gonna just be wrong
Nov 03rd 2020
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i think the model is really counting on wi, mi and pa
Nov 04th 2020
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269/269 is becoming a possibility.
Nov 03rd 2020
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NH a low key big call for biden
Nov 03rd 2020
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No it’s not.
Nov 03rd 2020
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roy cooper won nc so easily compared to a slim win in 2016.
Nov 03rd 2020
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Yeah that one is odd to me as well
Nov 03rd 2020
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Governor is more "local"
Nov 03rd 2020
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JUST WIN ONE FUCKING STATE
Nov 03rd 2020
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Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania
Nov 03rd 2020
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Yep, this is the whole election. Even winning Arizona would be nice but
Nov 03rd 2020
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Something!!!
Nov 03rd 2020
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az is looking like a pickup.
Nov 03rd 2020
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      Looking good for Biden and Kelly
Nov 03rd 2020
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      Iowa's feeling like it's holding up too.
Nov 03rd 2020
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           cmon
Nov 03rd 2020
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                It's certainly the least promising of the pickup options...
Nov 03rd 2020
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                     Yeah Iowa swings wildly from election to election
Nov 03rd 2020
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                          And now it's shifted against us.
Nov 03rd 2020
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Fools on MSNBC talking about Omaha, Nebraska *sigh*
Nov 03rd 2020
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Between hearing this and Biden’s camp preaching “patience”
Nov 03rd 2020
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is it too early to give up?
Nov 03rd 2020
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Lmao
Nov 03rd 2020
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You might actually be late
Nov 03rd 2020
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Yes.
Nov 03rd 2020
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      thank you...
Nov 03rd 2020
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Ohio looks like it will end up like it did in 2016
Nov 03rd 2020
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Trump winning small Pennsylvania counties to same level as 2016
Nov 03rd 2020
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      When they said they needed PA? Welp.. smh
Nov 03rd 2020
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How to expect races to shift, and when:
Nov 03rd 2020
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fox news calls az for biden.
Nov 03rd 2020
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Let's go Omaha!!!
Nov 03rd 2020
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Numbers shifting back to a (slim) possibility in GA and NC.
Nov 03rd 2020
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GA nearly up to 1 in 4.
Nov 03rd 2020
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      Holy shit now they have Georgia leaning Biden!
Nov 04th 2020
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Why is John King reminding me of Rain Man lol
Nov 03rd 2020
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biden won me-01.
Nov 03rd 2020
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He was always getting ME-1. It's ME-2 that's a tossup
Nov 03rd 2020
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I'm Not Liking How News Is Reporting Or Predicting Winners
Nov 03rd 2020
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The amount of commercials.. lol
Nov 03rd 2020
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It's all looking like a racket
Nov 04th 2020
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      Nate Silver is trash
Nov 04th 2020
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man tx aint even close.
Nov 04th 2020
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Smh
Nov 04th 2020
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big turn out is good for dems
Nov 04th 2020
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nytimes needle for georgia now tilting biden.
Nov 04th 2020
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https://media.tenor.com/images/16e0b9015b93b2c8ceb7adf2ed419c01/tenor.gi...
Nov 04th 2020
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Yep. https://twitter.com/conorsen/status/1323857642985541635?s=21
Nov 04th 2020
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this was actually kinda funny.
Nov 04th 2020
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This is sad.
Nov 04th 2020
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Biden has under-performed with the Latino/a vote
Nov 04th 2020
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I don't think it Biden's weakness. We gotta face it...Trump is strong
Nov 04th 2020
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Perhaps - but there's no excuse for Dems to be losing support
Nov 04th 2020
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You confirmed that
Nov 04th 2020
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trump is strong with men.
Nov 04th 2020
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Fuck Texas and Tex-Mex. Texas is the ultimate Blue balls tease
Nov 04th 2020
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it's not just about Texas - but the broader Latino/a vote
Nov 04th 2020
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Democrats don’t seem to have issues with latinos in Nevada or
Nov 04th 2020
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There are a lot of conservative Lationos in the U.S.
Nov 04th 2020
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In the valley crime is down, jobs and home are up
Nov 04th 2020
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nah. dems just need to try harder and not bullshit.
Nov 04th 2020
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Mexicans/latinos by values fit better within the GOP to begin with
Nov 04th 2020
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      It's really not that tough of a lift - and a lot of Latinos are Catholic
Nov 04th 2020
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           You think latinos that are citizens care about immigration or DACA
Nov 04th 2020
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                Yes - of course they care about DACA and immigration
Nov 04th 2020
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                     Cubans, Colombians, PR, Venezuelans don’t care about DACA
Nov 04th 2020
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                          Speak on it
Nov 04th 2020
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Agreed. His time was better spent in Michigan, PA, etc.
Nov 04th 2020
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correct. Texas won't be in play until
Nov 04th 2020
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this is mostly a trump phenomenon imo.
Nov 04th 2020
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Wisconsin at 0% of absentee ballots reported
Nov 04th 2020
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PA’s former governor feels Biden will carry PA...
Nov 04th 2020
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GOP is going to gangster those votes
Nov 04th 2020
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      SMH
Nov 04th 2020
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turn florida red in this map
Nov 04th 2020
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trump team pissed that fox news called az for biden so early.
Nov 04th 2020
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fucking joni ernst won.
Nov 04th 2020
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Trump already tweeting unhinged AF
Nov 04th 2020
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Given Arizona and Minnesota,
Nov 04th 2020
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Where we're standing right now - Biden does not have a 88% chance
Nov 04th 2020
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I gotta stop you here
Nov 04th 2020
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      Right. If this were CFB, 538/Silver would be Texas/Herman
Nov 04th 2020
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      They called 48 of the 50 states.
Nov 04th 2020
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           My beef isn't necessary w/Silver. It's w/ publicized polls in general
Nov 04th 2020
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Christie a disgusting looking motherfucker...hate to see him speaking.
Nov 04th 2020
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6 points.
Nov 04th 2020
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Fuck face is about to speak
Nov 04th 2020
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Election polling is about as accurate as palm reading
Nov 04th 2020
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I'm going to bed, but ......
Nov 04th 2020
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Numbers keep swinging.
Nov 04th 2020
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I agree with your assessment on Latin and Mexican Americans
Nov 04th 2020
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trump improving with hispanics is largely due to the gender gap.
Nov 04th 2020
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chuck schumer needs to kick rocks.
Nov 04th 2020
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Some of the swing states don't start counting mail-in votes on election ...
Nov 04th 2020
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Knew he would do this. Still - oh. My. God.
Nov 04th 2020
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Complete craziness. I tuned into Fox just to see what they said
Nov 04th 2020
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Yeah it was surprisingly comforting from them
Nov 04th 2020
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if anyone had faith in the way the media would portray this:
Nov 04th 2020
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That was one of the most disgusting speeches ever
Nov 04th 2020
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And then pence says we need to count all the votes lol
Nov 04th 2020
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he did exactly what everyone said he would do
Nov 04th 2020
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      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Nov 04th 2020
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i think trump is gonna lose and not leave.
Nov 04th 2020
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Can the Great Lake states finish counting their votes before SCOTUS?
Nov 04th 2020
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      Is he losing tho? Please Reeq, say you're right lol
Nov 04th 2020
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           Biden is currently losing but a lot of votes left to count
Nov 04th 2020
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                Biden isn't losing
Nov 04th 2020
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                Biden is ahead in the popular and electoral vote but he is behind
Nov 04th 2020
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                Unfortunate as it may be, Trump is way out ahead in those states
Nov 04th 2020
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                     Mail in ballots are probably about 75% Biden
Nov 04th 2020
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                          This is where I'm at with it right now
Nov 04th 2020
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                          Yes all true but I think Biden just needs to win Michigan and Wisconsin
Nov 04th 2020
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I cannot believe this many people still voted for this guy.
Nov 04th 2020
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this is where im at from across the pond
Nov 04th 2020
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They're calling Arizona for Biden
Nov 04th 2020
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I know we have said this over and over again these last 4 years BUT
Nov 04th 2020
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this was fucking bullshit.
Nov 04th 2020
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Shit is mad frustrating Doc
Nov 04th 2020
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How anyone could trust polls after 2016 is just...
Nov 04th 2020
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GA QAnon Senate candidate facing a runoff in Jan thank Gawd
Nov 04th 2020
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So are y’all ready for another four years?
Nov 04th 2020
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😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Nov 04th 2020
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Not when Biden is still predicted to win
Nov 04th 2020
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A close race is not good.
Nov 04th 2020
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Yes, unfortunately I’ve always been a pessimist
Nov 04th 2020
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We're more than 4 years away...
Nov 04th 2020
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"Voters were divided on whether the nation has contained the spread of t...
Nov 04th 2020
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Trump is doing better this year than he did in 2016 in counties with hig...
Nov 04th 2020
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      Now that's a crazy stat.
Nov 04th 2020
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Looking ahead a little, what role could SCOTUS play?
Nov 04th 2020
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The hate is real and they want us to leave
Nov 04th 2020
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yeah the hate is past real, look at how they reelected the racist
Nov 04th 2020
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good news: trump is toast.
Nov 04th 2020
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good morning papi...
Nov 04th 2020
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You sure
Nov 04th 2020
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Man.. I really hope this is true.
Nov 04th 2020
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Too soon? nm
Nov 04th 2020
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same as in 2000, SC will have the final say
Nov 04th 2020
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we also needed the senate.
Nov 04th 2020
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A lot of reckless doom and gloom going on. Playing right into their hand...
Nov 04th 2020
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btw i think lack of traditional campaigning/organizing really hurt dems.
Nov 04th 2020
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The real world conditions were also very unfavorable to the incumbent
Nov 04th 2020
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Nope... that excuse can’t be used
Nov 04th 2020
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      Yup, With Covid, civil unrest, bad economy, etc there should be no excus...
Nov 04th 2020
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      I’m going to get flamed for this but iont give a fuck right now
Nov 04th 2020
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           sounds pretty accurate tbh lol
Nov 04th 2020
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           That was pretty much Trump's campaign strategy from the summer onwards
Nov 04th 2020
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      you didnt actually dispute what i said.
Nov 04th 2020
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           I’m in my feels, little sleep, hungover and at work..
Nov 04th 2020
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Nate Silver and 538 needs to shut it down after this.
Nov 04th 2020
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polling misses are a worldwide phenomenon now.
Nov 04th 2020
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from what I understand they mainly poll people with landline phones
Nov 04th 2020
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      there are various polling methods.
Nov 04th 2020
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      we knew shit was flawed after 2016. Why anyone thought...
Nov 04th 2020
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      That's generally not an issue anymore.
Nov 04th 2020
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When polls are consistently off by double digits...
Nov 04th 2020
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No, it's time to recalibrate them.
Nov 04th 2020
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As of right now it looks like they called 48 of the 50 states.
Nov 04th 2020
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      It's not just the Presidential polling. The polling on the Senate races ...
Nov 04th 2020
468
Update from Stacey Abrams in GA
Nov 04th 2020
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Praying she's right.
Nov 04th 2020
271
Such a crazy election that could come down to.....Omaha
Nov 04th 2020
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I'd like someone to try and explain how in TF Trump
Nov 04th 2020
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Every group has the ability to vote against itself.....
Nov 04th 2020
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The crime bill and cop thing hurt.
Nov 04th 2020
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yeah biden had unique vulnerabilities with his own base.
Nov 04th 2020
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crime bill, age, history, democratic cities
Nov 04th 2020
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It’s a damn shame that the stink of socialism was ever brought up
Nov 04th 2020
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      you sound like a loud and wrong broken record w/ this non-sense
Nov 04th 2020
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           um they called him a Kenyan. Remember the whole Birther thing?
Nov 04th 2020
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RE: I'd like someone to try and explain how in TF Trump
Nov 04th 2020
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RE: I'd like someone to try and explain how in TF Trump
Nov 04th 2020
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people mad about the "crime bill" are mostly young, dumb, uniformed...
Nov 04th 2020
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      Doesn't matter. It's a talking point that can sway a number of people
Nov 04th 2020
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      I agree with all this and I think this is where the lack of door knockin...
Nov 04th 2020
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      those young dumb and uninformed men are grown men in their
Nov 04th 2020
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           nah you got a lot of 20-30y/o's yapping about the "crime bill" that ALL....
Nov 04th 2020
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                that age group barely votes, its the older black men who were
Nov 04th 2020
353
you have to look at men v women
Nov 04th 2020
285
Some of them want to be Americans so bad they buy all the way in
Nov 04th 2020
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i wouldnt put too much into it.
Nov 04th 2020
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I don’t think you can really compare the periods of
Nov 04th 2020
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      ‘there are a ton of differentiating factors but...’ (c)
Nov 04th 2020
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He reached his ceiling w/ white men. Blacks & Hispanics were a target
Nov 04th 2020
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      theres a history of repub incumbents doing better with voters of color.
Nov 04th 2020
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           W got a majority of the Muslim-American vote in 2000
Nov 04th 2020
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Bernie with the half court pull-up...
Nov 04th 2020
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Mail in voting was such a bad idea.. lol
Nov 04th 2020
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mail in voting is part of the reason we had high turnout.
Nov 04th 2020
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It’s too easy to dump mailed votes tho
Nov 04th 2020
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      Using mail-ins when you knew the USPS was being undermined
Nov 04th 2020
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the problem is different states have different methods as to when...
Nov 04th 2020
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Damn Tio Bernie out here with the prophecy.
Nov 04th 2020
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.
Nov 04th 2020
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Time for the TriState, New England & The West Coast to bounce...
Nov 04th 2020
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People act like almost half of some of those places aren't bullshit too....
Nov 04th 2020
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      right lol...
Nov 04th 2020
347
Time to just go to 4 parties
Nov 04th 2020
289
repubs (trumpers, as they are one in the same) would steamroll america
Nov 04th 2020
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smh at anyone thinking Trumpers and Republicans are different demos
Nov 04th 2020
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Where are all the sensible Republicans we were courting?
Nov 04th 2020
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      suburbs in michigan, pennsylvania, georgia, arizona, etc.
Nov 04th 2020
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           I'm a little underwhelmed so far. The Republicans have not
Nov 04th 2020
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You don’t think that would break it up?
Nov 04th 2020
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Repubs will turn a blind eye to the shittier / shadier side of their
Nov 04th 2020
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68 million people have voted for Trump so far
Nov 04th 2020
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I’m saying....
Nov 04th 2020
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      he *is* their normal candidate
Nov 04th 2020
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           Yeah, man.....I’m struggling with this whole shit
Nov 04th 2020
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nah that's a 25% vs 25% vs 50% fight. repubs dream of that
Nov 04th 2020
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That's correct. There is no "moderate Republican" party anymore.
Nov 04th 2020
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RE: Time to just go to 4 parties
Nov 04th 2020
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a multiparty system would ensure conservative rule forever
Nov 04th 2020
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      correct
Nov 04th 2020
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      Fair point
Nov 04th 2020
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Putting them in their own party would help us wash the socialism stink o...
Nov 04th 2020
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dumb idea
Nov 04th 2020
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so your takeaway is that Dems need to abandon progressives
Nov 04th 2020
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      Umm....no
Nov 04th 2020
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           Dems need to stop sending candidates that cater to the donor class
Nov 04th 2020
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                RE: Dems need to stop sending candidates that cater to the donor class
Nov 04th 2020
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                its really that simple.
Nov 04th 2020
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                You’re right. My bad.
Nov 04th 2020
514
Seems like it's gonna come down to Michigan & Wisconsin
Nov 04th 2020
319
It was always going to come down to a few states
Nov 04th 2020
323
      hes gonna have the most votes ever.
Nov 04th 2020
325
I think Ohio will continue to trend red from here. Florida too.
Nov 04th 2020
328
Agree with you on Ohio turning more red for the reasons you gave
Nov 04th 2020
336
      This is an interesting list of states...
Nov 04th 2020
360
           People will scoff at the Idaho suggestion but it has a small population
Nov 04th 2020
364
                Texas' population is the reason it should be focused on
Nov 04th 2020
405
definitely disappointed that its this close
Nov 04th 2020
333
Some People don’t vote based on social or civil issues
Nov 04th 2020
352
      how many people that voted for trump own a business?
Nov 04th 2020
359
fam look at the ballot delivery failure rates by the usps
Nov 04th 2020
342
what did Dems do about this?
Nov 04th 2020
343
What do Dems do about anything?
Nov 04th 2020
350
      You see the amount of money Dems have raised
Nov 04th 2020
354
assuming Biden wins (please dear lord)...
Nov 04th 2020
345
      but it is lol...
Nov 04th 2020
348
           well yes, because Repubs tend to be shit people...
Nov 04th 2020
355
                "This is America"(c)Donald McKinley Glover Jr.
Nov 04th 2020
375
Is this the time period where we're supposed to pretend that the lie of ...
Nov 04th 2020
344
Assuming (and hoping) Biden wins
Nov 04th 2020
362
Any and everything he can to save his own ass from prosecution
Nov 04th 2020
369
how much is still out there for the mail in?
Nov 04th 2020
363
Wisconsin is official for Joe
Nov 04th 2020
365
Is that recount range?
Nov 04th 2020
368
      It seems so:
Nov 04th 2020
371
Fox News Business is saying Biden has Wisconsin
Nov 04th 2020
366
Trump is in panic mode
Nov 04th 2020
377
      I literally LOLed at this reply:
Nov 04th 2020
389
Biden could actually win this thing and yet, still feels like an L
Nov 04th 2020
367
This is a big L
Nov 04th 2020
372
yeah I'm scratching my head at the senate Ls
Nov 04th 2020
408
naw a win is a win.
Nov 04th 2020
373
The trouble is with it being this close they could steal it in the
Nov 04th 2020
376
      they gonna try but it wont work
Nov 04th 2020
383
      how's that?
Nov 04th 2020
391
      you can feel them souring on that.
Nov 04th 2020
393
yep, it's too close
Nov 04th 2020
378
Don't be fooled by those maps, bro
Nov 04th 2020
502
adults shouldn't be this naïve...
Nov 04th 2020
379
and not just the last 4 years but the past 7-8 months
Nov 04th 2020
380
We've got it.
Nov 04th 2020
382
who knows how things would turn out if mail in votes werent sabotaged?
Nov 04th 2020
388
omg please stop typing
Nov 04th 2020
399
Real talk. Please stfu and let me vent.
Nov 04th 2020
406
      aw.
Nov 04th 2020
416
RE: Biden could actually win this thing and yet, still feels like an L
Nov 04th 2020
432
Its a major L. Im confident he'll win, but this campaign was a failure.
Nov 04th 2020
506
florida needed more bernie to convert working class trump voters
Nov 04th 2020
384
oh nah... I think Florida reacts the worst to Bernie
Nov 04th 2020
392
of course. thats why its so funny lol.
Nov 04th 2020
396
I starting typing the response before I read your note at the bottom
Nov 04th 2020
397
      yeah when people refer to fdr, unions, old blue collar dem strength
Nov 04th 2020
409
           This wasn't unique to FDR's base though:
Nov 04th 2020
419
                yes there are white people in both parties vex lol.
Nov 04th 2020
420
                     It's because the xenophobia in the Dem party wasn't just relegated
Nov 04th 2020
427
                          what? fdr new deal dems was *the* democratic party.
Nov 04th 2020
439
yea - Florida never would be a strong state for Bernie
Nov 04th 2020
398
      sanders did well with demographics that disproportionately skew young.
Nov 04th 2020
414
           Exactly the demographic the Democrats should be winning
Nov 04th 2020
426
                biden killed it with young poc tho.
Nov 04th 2020
437
                     I think he's high
Nov 04th 2020
445
                          honestly hes the one poster that consistently confuses me
Nov 04th 2020
449
                          hey! I missed you bro.
Nov 04th 2020
454
these clown shows were so eager to jump on the early results too
Nov 04th 2020
401
i dont get the reflexive impulse to dunk on candidates
Nov 04th 2020
417
shit, the boricuas there apparently didn't buy it either this election
Nov 04th 2020
422
did Bloomberg run ads or nah?
Nov 04th 2020
415
      not sure. i dont think any of that is a substitute for ground game tho.
Nov 04th 2020
428
If you want to help cure mail-in ballots here's list opportunities to he...
Nov 04th 2020
385
Another opportunity through Fair Fight Action for GA (In-person)
Nov 04th 2020
403
What gets done if Biden wins and the Senate stays in GOP control?
Nov 04th 2020
402
wishful thinking perhaps...
Nov 04th 2020
407
yeah mitch mcconnell aint working with shit.
Nov 04th 2020
425
      *hugs you*
Nov 04th 2020
431
      its all fucked up fam.
Nov 04th 2020
435
      Yeah I’m feeling real depressed about this
Nov 04th 2020
467
reversal of Trump policies, covid stimulus, lgbtq legislation
Nov 04th 2020
411
Force Stephen Breyer to retire.. Pray Clarence Thomas dies...
Nov 04th 2020
424
he needs the senate for that.
Nov 04th 2020
429
      Keep praying for a dead turtle i guess then...
Nov 04th 2020
430
rescind executive orders.
Nov 04th 2020
433
      that was going to be my part 2 question
Nov 04th 2020
440
           yeah the map is technically favorable to dems.
Nov 04th 2020
444
any data on how many GOP actually broke
Nov 04th 2020
404
Economy is in shambles because of the shut down
Nov 04th 2020
410
sure but I'm not talking about his supporters
Nov 04th 2020
412
Yeah. The narrative should have been blaming them for the economic
Nov 04th 2020
413
economy is in shambles because of mishandling of the pandemic.
Nov 04th 2020
418
      All up to Philly and the absentee ballots being counted in PA
Nov 04th 2020
421
      If there ever was a time we needed big government
Nov 04th 2020
423
           its sad but the only time we get sweeping progressive policy
Nov 04th 2020
442
I'm thinking 0.
Nov 04th 2020
507
is it safe to say without Covid Plump wins easily?
Nov 04th 2020
434
I think COVID was quite beneficial to him
Nov 04th 2020
446
great breakdown
Nov 04th 2020
451
      This is only anecdotal but I definitely know people who flipped on econo...
Nov 04th 2020
461
           interesting. also defund the police was the worst slogan ever
Nov 04th 2020
473
           I really don't understand how
Nov 04th 2020
477
                go back to twitter
Nov 04th 2020
485
           The world, as it is, allows us to see whatever world we want to see
Nov 04th 2020
488
                yeah, he got more and more heated when he couldn't start a GoFundMe for ...
Nov 04th 2020
495
Without Covid the economy would’ve prolly been enough for Trump
Nov 04th 2020
459
I think it didn't matter as much as people think
Nov 04th 2020
476
Angus King needs to have a conversation with Susan Collins,
Nov 04th 2020
436
This is actually a pretty shrewd move...
Nov 04th 2020
438
her brand is tease, so
Nov 04th 2020
441
bullshit. her votes show she happy as a pig in shit w/ Trump
Nov 04th 2020
443
is there a GOP senator that Biden can nominate
Nov 04th 2020
455
      Susan Collins? Haha the thing is the GOP senator would have to accept
Nov 04th 2020
464
           which are our options?
Nov 04th 2020
483
*Tosses grenade* --- Bernard would've gotten rocked.
Nov 04th 2020
447
too soon...but might be a nice distraction
Nov 04th 2020
450
dem senator gary peters pulled ahead in michigan.
Nov 04th 2020
448
from where?
Nov 04th 2020
452
      basically the 2 ga races and cal in nc.
Nov 04th 2020
458
      I think we just need 2.
Nov 04th 2020
469
           Perdue is winning, Ossoff needs a miracle or something.
Nov 04th 2020
472
                If we can get Perdue under 50% then there'll be a runoff there as well.
Nov 04th 2020
484
                     you're right. look at this
Nov 05th 2020
588
      Georgia runoff in January is our best chance to get one
Nov 04th 2020
463
If Trump won that 1 EV in Maine, that seems to put him at 269.
Nov 04th 2020
453
you had me scared
Nov 04th 2020
457
A rogue elector might be the catalyst to finally end the EC
Nov 04th 2020
460
georgia is getting tiiiiiiight.
Nov 04th 2020
456
yeah but its Warnock vs that white bitch I'm tuning in to.
Nov 04th 2020
470
      That race is going to a runoff in January
Nov 04th 2020
482
           its gonna be 2 than
Nov 05th 2020
590
dems need to be screaming about the usps holdups
Nov 04th 2020
462
Absolutely. Our messaging (and branding) sucks so bad
Nov 04th 2020
465
theyll never do it. its too unbecoming of them
Nov 04th 2020
466
Yep, when they go low, we just disappear and give up
Nov 04th 2020
479
I gave up on the dems showing any testicular fortitude when
Nov 04th 2020
474
This is a real convo that need to be had in the coming months / years
Nov 04th 2020
478
He's suing. I was waiting for this.
Nov 04th 2020
480
Nobody is reporting any paperwork as having been filed.
Nov 04th 2020
481
CNN calls MI for Biden
Nov 04th 2020
486
work em down JOE
Nov 04th 2020
493
This is monstrous. With AZ in the bag, Biden just needs Nevada
Nov 04th 2020
494
Flip! Flip! Flip! (Now who they want??!’)Flip!! Flip!! Flip!!
Nov 04th 2020
501
trump savages storm counting facility in detroit
Nov 04th 2020
487
they want to stop the count where Biden is...leading?
Nov 04th 2020
489
i need the black voters in detroit to show up hip deep
Nov 04th 2020
490
hope the cops start swinging batons on them
Nov 04th 2020
491
LMAO
Nov 04th 2020
492
pepper spray all these fucking karens in the eyes...
Nov 04th 2020
496
that one idiot is gonna come in here and say its lefties doing this
Nov 04th 2020
511
In Detroit?
Nov 04th 2020
530
Biden would like to dedicate this song to Don "The Con" Trump
Nov 04th 2020
497
RE: Biden would like to dedicate this song to Don "The Con" Trump
Nov 04th 2020
498
Warren G second album
Nov 04th 2020
513
Lol, AZ releasing ballot info like a new Kendrick album
Nov 04th 2020
499
im getting nervous about it
Nov 04th 2020
500
a lotta countries aint lucky enough to oust demagogues after 1 election.
Nov 04th 2020
503
Joe may not win GA, but he walked Trump down like a motherfucker
Nov 04th 2020
505
Mans is just "claiming" victory in some states now lol
Nov 04th 2020
509
The twitter warning on the OG Trump tweet is the *chef's kiss*
Nov 04th 2020
510
Rudy gotta just go lay low after this, right?
Nov 04th 2020
512
The guy got tricked by Borat's daughter is really asking that question
Nov 04th 2020
515
trump down to 300k margin in pa with 900k mail in ballots left to count.
Nov 04th 2020
516
At this rate Trump's only hope for hitting 270 is lots of diet and exerc...
Nov 04th 2020
517
      i wanna steal this
Nov 04th 2020
518
      me too, man
Nov 04th 2020
519
      its stolen
Nov 04th 2020
541
      A+ posting
Nov 04th 2020
520
      nice.
Nov 04th 2020
521
      💀
Nov 04th 2020
522
      good one
Nov 04th 2020
525
      Toasty!!!!
Nov 04th 2020
527
      Somebody call Parcells, get this guy a try out
Nov 04th 2020
537
trump ga margin down to 57k with 162k mail in ballots left
Nov 04th 2020
523
trump now filing lawsuit in georgia to stop the count lol.
Nov 04th 2020
531
Now 47k
Nov 04th 2020
533
      damn this is crazy.
Nov 04th 2020
538
      now 38k with 120k votes out.
Nov 04th 2020
540
      now 18k with 90k still out.
Nov 05th 2020
557
           12k
Nov 05th 2020
600
                12k with the 60k thats left to count?
Nov 05th 2020
604
      This is what I wanted last night. Just one state to flip so they stfu
Nov 04th 2020
542
           my homie working in staten island said all the trump shit
Nov 04th 2020
543
trump campaign bails on wisconsin recount.
Nov 04th 2020
524
RE: trump campaign bails on wisconsin recount.
Nov 04th 2020
528
them niggas is broke.
Nov 04th 2020
539
https://i.imgur.com/wH3pbNU.png
Nov 04th 2020
526
I know "folks" are tight as hell watching this count in ATL
Nov 04th 2020
529
Lol...dude tried to ask ol girl a question and got shut down
Nov 04th 2020
534
How AZ percentage reported go down??
Nov 04th 2020
535
Trump: AZ and NV "keep counting" .....thats red flag fishy.
Nov 04th 2020
552
Trump campaign: Stop counting votes! (except in states we're behind in)"
Nov 04th 2020
536
The Trump Decision Tree:
Nov 04th 2020
544
Rick Santorum is kind of a bitch
Nov 04th 2020
545
Never forget
Nov 05th 2020
562
Lol...wtf!! That’s wild. Wilder that there was nothing he could do.
Nov 05th 2020
571
Van was kinda lowkey clowning him last night lol
Nov 05th 2020
584
never forget his name was made slang for 'Booty Juice'
Nov 05th 2020
598
The internet never fails, lol...
Nov 04th 2020
546
Trump: We need to stop counting votes
Nov 04th 2020
547
Arizona coming back for Trump. Called too early
Nov 04th 2020
548
I’m really getting nervous about Arizona now
Nov 04th 2020
549
I wouldnt call that a comeback. He'd have to take nearly 60% of the rema...
Nov 04th 2020
550
more concerned with why Nevada has had ALL DAY and cant supply any info
Nov 04th 2020
551
      Yeah I don’t understand this. Nevada doesn’t even have a lot of peop...
Nov 04th 2020
554
      i'm guessing it's a public safety thing, assuming Biden wins NV.
Nov 04th 2020
555
           I doubt it's that deep. They're probably just taking their time to
Nov 04th 2020
556
"Liberty Bell City" gonna be the difference for PA.
Nov 04th 2020
553
https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1324314809043718146?s=21
Nov 05th 2020
558
I think of this when I think of my friends who have been sh*t talking Bi...
Nov 05th 2020
575
Melania is so over this shyt, she ready to go
Nov 05th 2020
559
Terrible optics
Nov 05th 2020
560
i wonder which melania that is.
Nov 05th 2020
561
      Probably the Secret Service Melania
Nov 05th 2020
563
Is Pelosi done? cuz she awfully quiet....too quiet.
Nov 05th 2020
564
She’s on that RGB. She ain’t leaving until she dies
Nov 05th 2020
566
she will be easily elected speaker in 2021 imo.
Nov 05th 2020
569
I’m stressed over folks acting like Donald Trump can’t still win.
Nov 05th 2020
565
Yup. Just when I think it's done something decent comes in for Trump
Nov 05th 2020
570
pa seals the deal regardless.
Nov 05th 2020
573
Losing AZ would be a 22 point swing
Nov 05th 2020
587
700k mail-in votes outstanding in PA, trump up by 135k
Nov 05th 2020
597
Don't stress it's a done deal
Nov 05th 2020
574
It's not. This is a dumb take.
Nov 05th 2020
579
      The wall around the WH makes me nervous
Nov 05th 2020
580
      Nah you too scared
Nov 05th 2020
581
      He doesn't need to run the table.
Nov 05th 2020
586
      #facts
Nov 05th 2020
      #facts
Nov 05th 2020
582
I feel confident, but not popping bottles just yet
Nov 05th 2020
576
Confident in what and why
Nov 05th 2020
578
      In the amount of remaining ballots and the locations they’re coming fr...
Nov 05th 2020
583
           That's just wishful thinking then
Nov 05th 2020
585
                Based on historical voting patterns.
Nov 05th 2020
611
until arizona is at 100% and stays biden im going to be on alert
Nov 05th 2020
589
EGGZACKLY
Nov 05th 2020
591
its a wrap. just watch it play out
Nov 05th 2020
592
.
Nov 05th 2020
593
Trump wouldn't be begging for us to stop counting mail in ballots
Nov 05th 2020
594
      He's not a smart man and not surrounded by smart people
Nov 05th 2020
595
CNN with "BREAKING NEWS" and it be the same news from 10 hours ago
Nov 05th 2020
567
classic Sportscenter move
Nov 05th 2020
568
breaking news...(insert state) still too close to call.
Nov 05th 2020
572
right I had to stop myself from watching that bs
Nov 05th 2020
577
Kinda feels like GOP is half-assing this election theft
Nov 05th 2020
596
While a lot more evil than GOPers of the past, they are also a lot dumbe...
Nov 05th 2020
601
Didn’t Florida go on for a week, 3 recounts and his brother
Nov 05th 2020
605
the gop legal establishment varsity team is staying away from it.
Nov 05th 2020
603
      Yeah, that's the conclusion I want to avoid...
Nov 05th 2020
606
           was thinking about this yesterday, that McConnell might prefer Biden
Nov 05th 2020
607
Georgia update....
Nov 05th 2020
599
dunno where these numbers come from, but, encouraging i guess...
Nov 05th 2020
608
So Stacy Abrams might be responsible for saving the entire country.
Nov 05th 2020
602
the devil works hard, but S.Abrams works even harder
Nov 05th 2020
609
      Biden really needs to be like, "~You Can Have Whatever you like~"
Nov 05th 2020
612
           lol
Nov 05th 2020
615
You guys have no rules in GD
Nov 05th 2020
610
Sure we do. Fuck BShelly
Nov 05th 2020
614
      lol
Nov 05th 2020
617
      lol
Nov 05th 2020
619
      lol
Nov 05th 2020
621
come on Georgia!:
Nov 05th 2020
613
he's losing whats left of any sanity
Nov 05th 2020
620
Lol...this Clark County, NV dude is spicy...
Nov 05th 2020
616
I feel for the guy
Nov 05th 2020
618
Dude is a complete weirdo
Nov 05th 2020
622

makaveli
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1. "today is going to be so long"
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Tomorrow too.

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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2. "Prediction: LANSLIDE for BIDEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
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So overwhelming that even the courts can't undo it.

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4. "i put my energy here"
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calij81
Member since Jan 17th 2007
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Tue Nov-03-20 10:15 AM

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5. "My heart says yes but my head says no"
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lsymone
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Tue Nov-03-20 10:32 AM

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7. "he defnitely got a landslide in some town in N.H."
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take a message

  

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jimaveli
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9. "RE: Prediction: LANSLIDE for BIDEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
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>So overwhelming that even the courts can't undo it.
>
>

We have been told and shown repeatedly that we’re surrounded by insecure assclowns. And DT makes some of them feel really good about themselves. That alone keeps me concerned about how close this will probably be. And if it’s close, the foot on the ropes and a hand full of tights shit is very much on the table.

  

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Dr Claw
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10. "he will win at least one 'Obama' state"
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by "Obama State" I mean a state that Dems don't usually win. Which will mean that Biden will likely wash Trump in the electoral college.

The turnout is too high in some of these states and that never benefits the GOP, even with a cult leader like Trump.

I just hope this also means that in states that also have a Senate or House race that Dems clean up there too.

Biden needs to get the "Obama Win" for this. They've done 30x the work of Hillary's campaign to make it happen

  

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Reeq
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25. "most likely az imo."
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ga and tx are within reach but i have a higher degree of confidence in states where a dem runs the elections and ensures fairness. plus az already delivered a dem senator and congressional majority.

  

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walihorse
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22. "I hope so, very very very much."
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If a fat guy falls in the woods and there is no one around to see it, do the trees laugh?

  

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3. "Ah shit, here we go again."
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Brotha Sun
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6. "lol"
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"They used to call me Baby Luke....but now? The whole damn 2 Liiiive Crew."

  

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8. "present..."
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11. "I'm just gonna put this on repeat:"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I826gxc8TvI

  

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12. "https://protecttheresults.com/"
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https://protecttheresults.com/

These events are tentative and dependent upon activation of the Protect the Results coalition if Trump takes action to undermine the results. For safety reasons, Protect the Results opposes any events beginning after dark or planned at ballot counting locations.


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13. "How are we on this whole: SCOTUS/votes counted after Nov 3rd thing?"
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Like, can someone briefly school me on this? Is this even realistic?

I keep hearing how the SCOTUS could throw out (or let states throw out) ballots counted after today POSSIBLY. How sway? Ballots are and have always been counted after election day because there are just too many to count EVERY single one in one day...it's a logistics thing.

I mean, I don't know if this is some weird Repub pipe dream or just some shit the media is talking about to get eyeballs, but if this somehow happens, America is REALLY and TRULY dead because then the people have not voted their president into to office, the SCOTUS, appointed with full partisanship in mind, decided it and thus, the American experiment is OVER and I think some scary scary shit will happen from there.

  

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lsymone
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14. "theres a quote by Bitch McConell and Cum Dump"
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>I mean, I don't know if this is some weird Repub pipe dream or
>just some shit the media is talking about to get eyeballs, but
>if this somehow happens, America is REALLY and TRULY dead
>because then the people have not voted their president into to
>office, the SCOTUS, appointed with full partisanship in mind,
>decided it and thus, the American experiment is OVER and I
>think some scary scary shit will happen from there.


wanting this to happen perfectly. Why they push that mediocre catholic into that seat.

take a message

  

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PimpTrickGangstaClik
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15. "I don't think it's ballot counting that's the issue on the table*"
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*except in Trump's mind. There is nothing anywhere that says vote counting has to be done immediately and a result has to be announced on election night.

It's ballot acceptance. Particularly regarding post marks for mail in ballots. If a completed ballot was mailed out before election day but did not arrive until after election day, should it be accepted.

Even Kavanaugh who seems to be echoing Trump on this issue makes the distinction.
He said states should avoid “the chaos and suspicions of impropriety that can ensue if thousands of absentee ballots flow in after election day and potentially flip the results of an election.”

  

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16. "i see the distinction..."
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i hope the effort to encourage early voting, which has seemed to pay off in most respects, mitigates most of that.

i mean, obvioulsy it's all bullshit on the part of Trump and his backers/appointees/etc. only when Trump has run for president are postmarks all of a sudden dubious.

  

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18. "It's a republican pipe dream/talking point."
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Votes are literally NEVER completely counted the night of. Election Night celebrations are about pageantry. They're not constitutionally mandated. If it takes a while to slowly count the votes, it happens. No matter what Drumf says, democracy is not threatened by no decisive outcome on November 4.

The issue in 2000 was Gore conceding by vote, then realizing he was wrong to do so and asking for a recount. And then he the votes got recounted were the issue (hanging chads and all that other shit). The issue in this case are going to be votes that arrive "late" in states like PA or are disputed in states like NC and Texas.

But there's no legal basis for saying that everything has to be over tonight, and no one will be able to file a credible lawsuit alleging so.

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17. "They just showed a site in Philly.. that was empty"
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but they claimed the line was looooong a while ago.

I’m still nervous.

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20. "In general, there are more polling places open on Election Day"
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Than for early voting. So that would cut down the lines today.

It's also a possibility that a shitload of Philly people have already voted. No need to read too much into this.

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19. "Either way, ya'' are going to learn a lot about America"
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before this is all over.

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Let me guess, I can have "good day" now, right?

  

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42. "The past four years have been quite instructive"
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But if we elect to validate this clown for another 4?

yikes.

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253. "i already knew my homestate Fl, was going to Trump, and it"
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will continue to stay republican for a very long time from here on out.

the blacks down there have lil to no power in south florida, only cubans and conservative elites who make 6 figures a year.

them cubans identify as white and white only, and if Latinos in other states voted for Trump its because they have not forgiven Obama/Biden's mass deportation.

take a message

  

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21. "Trump is talking to his team in Arlington "
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and he sounds mad defeated. Sounds like a concession speech.

I feel a bit better now.

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24. "You have a link for this? I don’t see it reported anywhere "
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26. "link"
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https://youtu.be/h2XDdRWCinA

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27. "It was playing live on Fox News Business in my breakroom"
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33. "he sounds like absolute shit here on fox and friends."
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https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1323610271219437569

  

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35. "lol @ fox & friends defending the network against trumps criticism."
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https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1323612549040975873

  

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49. "suppression polls though"
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Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

  

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23. "trump team apparently not confident in pa election day turnout."
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take it with a grain of salt but...

https://twitter.com/PeterAlexander/status/1323681953896419328
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NEW: Early concern inside Trumpworld about Election Day turnout activities in PA: A person with direct knowledge of the campaign's operations tells me, “The team in Pennsylvania was not as prepared as it should be in a state that could decide the presidency.”
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28. "the fuckery in PA still has me nervous"
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but I honestly don't think its going to come down to one state.

I've seen a few folks say we'll know Biden won by tonight.


Which...in addition to being GREAT NEWS...it will be entertaining to see how the Trumpsters back peddle on "we need to know the winner on election night!"

  

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29. "im glad things seem to be a lot calmer than i thought they would be."
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i thought there would be a bunch of chaos and trump caravans or 'poll watchers' causing havoc in dem precincts but that doesnt look like its happening.

i saw a video of ONE trump 'poll watcher' showing up at an nc location with a gun and his camera phone out. but he got turned away quickly. i was expecting whole mobs of these people in some places.

  

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36. "i just remembered Fox obsessing over the solo New Black Panther"
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at a polling station in 2012

  

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39. "classic."
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32. "As prepared? The fuck does that even mean? "
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Either people are voting for him or they ain’t.

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37. "in terms of ground game and organization."
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more concerned with truck caravans and boat parades while biden team was maximizing gotv efforts.

example...
https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1323265381541253121

  

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41. "It was my impression that Biden focused on digital and phone outreach..."
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and didn't do much of the pound on doors GOTV. For covid reasons of course.

And Trump and them tried to be more physical.
Is that incorrect?

  

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43. "Yeah, they really bashed Biden for hiding and not knocking on doors"
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but I think Trump and them were so concerned with hearing crowds chant their names they didn’t focus on expanding their base...

At least that’s what I hope happened.

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47. "If Drumf loses, they're going to blame the campaign, but it's really..."
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...on him. He's the one who insisted on non-stop rallies. Four years ago, he held a rally in Michigan the day before the election and then won the state. Since then, he's insisted that the rally directly led to the victory and poured all of his energy into similar spectacles.

He's also alone in shaping the content of his message, making it about "law and order" and fear of losing heritage and continuing to Cuban B COVID.

No matter if he wins or loses, Drumf gets either all the credit or the blame.

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30. "glenn greenwald with his final summary of the trump 1st term."
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https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1323660099064336389

  

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31. "would give him extra credit if he said 'white supremacy'"
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but like a lil bitch he hides behind "normalcy" meaning "bOtH sIdEs ArE bAd"

they are bad, but that statement addresses nothing behind the "normal" that makes it toxic. he just calls it "normal".

  

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34. "other than some wacky tweets, nothings happened"
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"nope...pretty boring, really"


          

  

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40. "Pre-Corona, I agree with this"
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In very general terms that is. But it was mostly business as usual.

Post-Corona though, it went way off the rails.

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54. "smh"
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64. "Fuck that dude"
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He sounds like 99% of stand up comedians - his takes are fucking LAME.

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38. "White suburbia San Antonio is prepping "
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Stopped by the store. Low paper towels. No tissue. Low water. Stopped by Home Depot whole lotta people checking out motion detecting lights.

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53. "Lines at the bank in Boerne (30 miles north of SA)"
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Dad said his coworkers told him they were gonna wait for him before leaving because they're scared of civil unrest.


I think yall have no idea how scared white people are right now.

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44. "Please, America, do the right thing"
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Start leading the way again.

  

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45. "Why does this have to be a thing? Judge orders sweep of USPS facilities"
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https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/524228-federal-judge-orders-usps-to-rush-delivery-of-mail-ballots-as

A federal judge in Washington, D.C., on Tuesday ordered the U.S. Postal Service to sweep facilities for remaining mail ballots and rush their delivery, as receipt deadlines close in.

U.S. District Judge Emmet Sullivan, who has presided over several lawsuits aimed at Postal Service election mail delays, gave the Postal Service until 3 p.m. to "ensure that no ballots have been held up" in regions that have been slow to process mail ballots.

Tuesday’s order was the strongest measure Sullivan has imposed so far, after previously ordering the Postal Service to take “extraordinary measures” to deliver election mail and requiring daily progress updates.

Sullivan ordered the sweep of facilities after the Postal Service disclosed a trove of data Tuesday showing continued delays in various regions of the country.

Roughly 300,000 ballots that received a scan indicating they were entered into the mail processing system showed no corresponding destination scan that would confirm their delivery, according to an analysis of Postal Service data by the NAACP, one the groups involved in the litigation.

  

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46. "Becuase REPUBLICANS are AGAINST DEMOCRACY"
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That's why.

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52. "right...and it seems like it would be easier for them to"
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you know, just adjust their policies to be more appealing to more people?

All this cheating shit they do just sounds exhausting.

  

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50. "Cause elections have always been about voter suppression "
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and intimidation

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51. "300k ballots."
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somebody needs to go to jail for this shit. regardless of results.

  

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48. "I'm ready for the canvassing text messages to slow the hell down"
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I get a little anxious what a text's gonna be when I'm not at work because it's usually about some problem I have to fix remotely or take responsibility for but it's like 15 a day that are just another volunteer begging me to vote or asking who I voted for, it's kind of egregious and I feel like I'm getting it way more than most people I know. Sometimes it's even people I know from work or socializing so they send the anonymous text then follow up with a "cute" Facebook message or text and it's like, maaaaaaaan...


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55. "where are yall watching election coverage on tv (if at all)?"
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im tryna find the least annoying set of talking heads.


  

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56. "PBS news hour for now "
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It’s a little dry I know.

But I find it to be a level headed respite when i want a break from cable news

  

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59. "i cant watch pbs news hour fam."
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makes me fell like im watching tv in a library or some shit.

youre right about them being pretty even keeled tho.

  

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62. "Lmao yeah they’re old timey for sure "
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I can tell I’m not in the target demographic because of the ads for old people medicine

  

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57. "I’m a fan of the MSNBC graphics.. lol"
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Can’t say I care for the talking heads but I like their break down of states, counties, etc. with their little touch screen.

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58. "me too! msnbc and nbc got some bomb ass color schemes."
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msnbc is my favorite choice but i dont want a panel thats gonna paint too rosy a picture before pulling the rug out from under me.

  

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63. "Yeah them too "
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Kornacki is good at his job

  

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61. "I like when Kornacki at MSNBC gets amped up"
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Calculators and pencils start flying.

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66. "What Steve Kornacki eats during election week:"
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https://www.gq.com/story/steve-kornacki-election-week-diet

TL,DR; Lots of Diet Coke and adrenaline.

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69. "https://twitter.com/nyinla2121/status/1323779014549401602?s=21"
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https://twitter.com/nyinla2121/status/1323779014549401602?s=21

“Imagine Steve and John going Dutch on a dinner and breaking down the bill”

  

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70. "I can’t stand this white haired dude on CNN"
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________________________________________
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2H5K-BUMS0

  

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71. "I've been listening to NYT's The Daily live radio show"
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Not sure what I'll do once they go off the air here in a couple minutes.


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60. "trump canceled his call into the mark levin show."
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https://twitter.com/existentialfish/status/1323765946826268672

  

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65. "Stay classy Georgia "
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https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/sarahmimms/qanon-congress-win-marjorie-taylor-greene-georgia

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"When the music stops he falls back in the abyss."

  

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67. "Florida looking like it's Trump's"
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92% chance according to NYtimes

Biden struggling in Miami

  

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68. "I read Biden was struggling to get votes in Miami Dade"
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Hopefully this isn’t the start of the ending.

Fuck. What’s wrong with Florida?

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72. "Hispanics"
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They sunk Biden in Fl

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75. "Cubans like him like that?"
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Is the socialism stuff?

  

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77. "That's it"
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They fell for the okie doke socialism.

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79. "Sucks that the word socialism was ever brought up in the first place "
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Cancerous in American politics

Particularly among Cubans and latinx folks.


It is what it is

  

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203. "If only Democrats hadn't run the term into the ground"
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during their primary, and acted like it was the equivalent of "free stuff", especially once the pandemic hit and people started seeing all those things like health care and UBI as necessities.

d'aHHHWell...what can you do?

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78. "Has to be "
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That fear mongering appears to have worked among the Cuban voting block

  

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73. "Not surprised... large amount of Spanish speaking voters. "
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74. "Trump hates their asses....fuck is wrong with them?"
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76. "Cubans think they are white. "
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93. "rich latinos hate poor latinos and black people too"
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just like the middle eastern cats who support trump

they hate poor muslims and black people too

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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81. "I blame Bernie."
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204. "lol facts"
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80. "Texas got my ears perked up"
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It's a lot of ground to make up from 2016, but Biden is drastically overperforming Clinton

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82. "i believe dems can still put trump away in nc."
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and dems are overperforming there so far for pres and senate (dem governor is essentially a shoe in regardless).

  

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83. "something going on in ohio."
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https://twitter.com/ConnieSchultz/status/1323800173508775937

  

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84. "Whoaaaa"
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More of this please

  

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85. "I will play Bone Thugs all night if Ohio comes through "
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88. "Wait, doesnt everyone do this anyway?"
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86. "Ohio, Ohio, Ohio."
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If it holds up, we'll also win PA, MI, WI, MN.

Fuck Florida.

There's A LOT of early vote in that OHIO number, but supposedly there's a lot of early vote to come.

  

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87. "Need that Scranton energy to come in big time for Biden"
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I'm thinking midwest is the path. Not too optimistic about Arizona or NC (even Nevada at this point but that's just me being scary). Georgia is done. Florida is done. Texas is a tough hill to climb

Ohio looking decent, so that's a good sign.

  

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89. "*sigh* Crenshaw re-elected in TX-02"
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Also not looking great for the TX House apparently. it was a long shot but still annoying to see how lame this state can be. Hoping Fletcher wins my district (TX-07) again

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90. "good cancelled by bad so far"
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florida is blah. it was going to be a toss up either way but it would definitely be a calm night if biden would be able to win it. doesnt look like it so far.

seems like trump is getting all the gary johnson votes theres. biden under performing a bit in key areas.

north carolina though? a bit early but looking kinda good.

texas...um wow early votes. dont know if it will hold though.

abc graphics are good, if they could only spend more time showing them instead of ads for themselves. msnbc graphics cool but too many popups. cnn, welcome to 2005? how can you not show 2020 and 2016 numbers at the same time??

had some wings, pretty good. best buy? you suck, my mario kart live order got delayed lol

  

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91. "fucking mitch mcconnell won"
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Not a surprise, but definitely a disappointment. Amy Mcgrath won my county, which is a small consolation.

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94. "All that money wasted in that race"
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95. "cornyn too in tx "
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not surprising either but how sweet it would had been to get him out

  

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100. "Fucking Lindsey's gonna survive too. And Thom Tillis in NC."
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Cunningham is currently ahead in NC, but that race is closer than the presidential race, and according to the NYTimes analysis that state's gonna go to Trump.

It's looking like the Senate will stay Republican.

  

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103. "I’m not optimistic about anything right now"
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283. "i cant even begin to deal with this"
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>It's looking like the Senate will stay Republican.
>

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http://perspectivesudans.blogspot.com/
i myself would never want to be god,or even like god.Because god got all these human beings on this planet and i most certainly would not want to be responsible for them, or even have the disgrace that i made them.

  

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395. "It's fucking awful."
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Guess we don't need to hem and haw about whether to expand the Supreme Court.

  

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92. "I’m so mad that COVID didn’t kill this hoe ass mfer"
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96. "Biden wins NY, I did my part... LOL!"
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97. "I’m calling California now on the strength of my vote"
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And the votes of my wife, brother and cousin.

  

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98. "Ummm....VA looking funny right now"
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Trump flipped a big Clinton NoVa county

  

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99. "Is Missouri turning blue!? Oh my! I am so excited."
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♥ Inescapably Me ♥

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118. "Nope! No dice."
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♥ Inescapably Me ♥

"Love is never any better than the lover" Toni Morrison (The Bluest Eye)

  

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101. "I feel like I’m being teased. "
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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102. "I’m feeling 2016 all over again. A lot of teases and close calls but l..."
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This sucks.

  

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104. "man, i'm about to tune out of everything"
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fuck all this anxiety

just gonna pretend trump won and go from there

  

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105. "Gonna get a little closer in GA, a little closer in TX, NC, "
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Trump's gonna get the same EC win despite being behind in popular vote by 6 million instead of 2.

  

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107. "That’s how I feel as well. Trump going to lose the popular vote by "
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Even more than he did in 16 and still win the EC.

A lot of close or closer races in red states but no wins.

  

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108. "what about the rust belt?"
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112. "The rust belt is the trump belt, a lost cause and only expanding "
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113. "That's where it gets interesting."
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The one bit of optimism I have is that the polling error we saw in Florida will not hold in the rust belt.

You know at least as well as I do, but my feeling right now is that Ohio could go either way. I'm feeling good about MI, WI, and (eventually) PA. I'm also hopeful for Arizona. If we can hold three of these four, I think we have it.

538 currently seems to have the overall race at about 50/50. If we win, I think this is how.

  

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109. "Yup. Deja vu like a mug"
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Florida starting off bad... shrugging if off like no big deal.

Then around midnight, you're clinging to a little bit of hope from Michigan

  

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106. "I’m confused, lol"
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111. "In other words it's a wrap for Biden"
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and the turtle will be back in the Senate.

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110. "I take that back"
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I was reading it wrong

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114. "trump tripling his 2016 margin in florida smh."
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115. "Fucking depressing. Our best hope for Florida is climate change"
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And rising sea levels submerges the majority of the state so it only has a few electoral votes.

  

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116. "I wanted to be optimistic going into tonight"
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but this ain't looking too good right now, at all.

A lot of math to play out though.

  

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119. "the fact that so many of these states are too close to call is good"
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its only the hope of a landslide that is making it look bad

tx hasnt been called? ga? nc? az? florida is a bit of a downer but there are still votes to be counted.

i definitely wanted to feel better about it by this time but too early to feel bad.

  

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122. "They are fucking with us. "
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All those leads are going away right now.

It’s good tv and a great way to hook us in for 4 more years of this bullshit.

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126. "i just refreshed the google page, all states turned red lol"
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tx, oh, nc, pa as far as whos leading

but for real, once states start being called one way or another ill start feeling some way.

  

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125. "Those are all done except for AZ"
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117. "Can we throw Nate Silver and his models away after tonight?"
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I know all about probabilities. If something has a 70% chance of happening, there's still a good chance it won't happen.

But if you got three things around the 70% range and none of them work out, then you're just bullshitting.

  

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120. "Not just him but all pollsters seem to have gotten it wrong again"
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How do you get things this wrong twice!?!?

  

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121. "yeah pollsters all need to quit"
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Once? Ok. Trump. Hillary. Odd election.

But twice?

This is unreal.

  

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124. "All this stable race” and less undecided voters seems like BS"
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Like you said, I can understand getting 16 wrong and Hillary being hated but this year was supposed to have gotten the polling better and the race was stable with very few undecided voters and Biden was more likable than Hillary.

IT WAS ALL BULLSHIT

  

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127. "People are probably lying when polled"
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--
Sometimes you have to look reality in the face and say 'No!'
-Ben (Reaper)

If you need any help, don't. Hesitate to ask.

  

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128. "That and I think there's a big bias in who chooses to participate in pol..."
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Trump people obviously do not

  

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132. "If there's a polling error, I think it's Covid."
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Florida's different. Florida was about "creeping socialism." We should have seen it coming.

Elsewhere things are going about as expected. But what I worry about now is what I've been worried about all along. If democrats were 2% more worried about Covid than republicans, then that starts throwing states. And pollsters generally weren't accounting for this in their likely-voter models.

  

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134. "No "
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They got it wrong again if Biden doesn’t win.

This is a crime.

The fuck y’all believe in polls after 2016. They work for the media.

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144. "I was told on here that that was thoroughly debunked."
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155. "It is."
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Unless we believe people would also be too scared of Trump-shame to tell the truth to computers.

  

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374. "These results say otherwise (even if Biden wins)."
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129. "i mean, the polls are gonna just be wrong"
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people don't respond to polls how they actually vote

less people respond to polls in general

so its always gonna just be a wash

  

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178. "i think the model is really counting on wi, mi and pa"
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even when you pick tx, ga, fl, nc and any expected trump state for trump his chances dont go over 11%

too early to know if wi, mi and pa are wrong or not. if either az or nc end up going for trump then i definitely think there are big problems with it. az is looking good. nc is not.

ga and tx were pipe dreams that i definitely fell for. didnt expect landslides in them but i did start hoping and thinking they might flip. they havent been called but im going to be really surprised if they flip to biden overnight. tx i think is a wrap, ga does have some key votes outstanding but i doubt it will close the gap.


the percent chances that 538 gives the races just dont fit commonsense. i get that theyre probably mathematically sound numbers but they dont accurately describe how close the race is. 2016 should have been shown to be 50/50. this one maybe 35/60 and 5% of tie.

  

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123. "269/269 is becoming a possibility."
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If we win WI, MI, AZ, but don't pick up anything else (including PA), it's 269/269.

If I remember correctly, it'd then go to the House. But oh shit, it's not voted by district, it's by state delegation, so despite a huge Dem lead in the house, we'd lose the house vote to break the tie.

  

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130. "NH a low key big call for biden"
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Still not a flip but a good hold

  

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131. "No it’s not. "
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133. "roy cooper won nc so easily compared to a slim win in 2016."
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who are these people splitting their ticket on the prez and senate seat?

  

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135. "Yeah that one is odd to me as well"
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137. "Governor is more "local""
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People tend to look at the actual candidate more than the party label

  

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136. "JUST WIN ONE FUCKING STATE"
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gotdamn..

All this talk about Georgia and Texas

Win something

Shit.

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138. "Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania"
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Dass it

Everything else is fools gold

  

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140. "Yep, this is the whole election. Even winning Arizona would be nice but"
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Not vital to Biden winning tonight

  

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141. "Something!!! "
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139. "az is looking like a pickup."
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142. "Looking good for Biden and Kelly"
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156. "Iowa's feeling like it's holding up too. "
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That'd be a surprising pickup considering other events, but the trade war has been pretty nasty for Iowa.

  

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158. "cmon"
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Iowa isn't going to be close

  

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160. "It's certainly the least promising of the pickup options..."
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all I'm saying is that it's a different dynamic than other states. And polling errors go both ways.

Biden is currently ahead by 4 points with 60% in, even though Greenfield is only ahead by .1 over Ernst. So far, the ticket-splitting is going our way. And Iowa is another state where we expect mail-ins to come in slowly.

  

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161. "Yeah Iowa swings wildly from election to election"
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But everything seems sticky this year. Very little movement either way

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163. "And now it's shifted against us."
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70% in now and Trump has it by a few points (which is only a few tens of thousands of votes). If we pull it out it'll be by mail-ins.

  

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143. "Fools on MSNBC talking about Omaha, Nebraska *sigh*"
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This is depressing

  

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145. "Between hearing this and Biden’s camp preaching “patience” "
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Just feels like listening 2016 coverage and the Clinton campaign.

  

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146. "is it too early to give up? "
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147. "Lmao"
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tears tho.. this is terrible

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148. "You might actually be late "
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150. "Yes."
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It's 50/50 at this point. We're gonna win AZ and WI, almost certainly Michigan once all the vote is in. It all comes down to PA and the isolated districts in Maine and Nebraska.

The bad news is, PA is gonna take another week. Maybe Michigan too. And it's gonna be an ugly week.

It really is hard to extrapolate anything at this point. Dems are good in early and mail-in votes, Trump appears to be ahead in in-person votes. Early votes mostly came in first (when we thought we had GA and OH and TX), then in-person (and we lost them), but the mail-in will take a long time in most places. So there's a swing-back ahead. The question is how big it'll be.

  

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152. "thank you..."
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149. "Ohio looks like it will end up like it did in 2016"
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Early on they were saying over performance there is a good sign for Pennsylvania.

Welp

  

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151. "Trump winning small Pennsylvania counties to same level as 2016"
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153. "When they said they needed PA? Welp.. smh"
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154. "How to expect races to shift, and when:"
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https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-results-timing/

It's gonna come down to the blue wall again, but the blue wall will have a big blue shift in the coming days, especially PA and MI.

Prepare for the lawsuits.

  

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157. "fox news calls az for biden."
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https://twitter.com/ChadPergram/status/1323842664140255232

  

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159. "Let's go Omaha!!!"
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Let's get that 270-268

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162. "Numbers shifting back to a (slim) possibility in GA and NC."
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The odds are still clearly against us, but Upshot (who's doing very detailed analysis of these states and Florida) is currently giving a 1 in 6 shot in either of those states (FL is done, of course). I'm not gonna pin any hopes on either one, but when you roll a die it's not at all strange to hit a six.

  

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165. "GA nearly up to 1 in 4."
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Dekalb county still has a hell of a lot of votes to get to.

Again, I'm not expecting it. But if we win with more than a squeaker, it'll be by pickups in GA and AZ.

  

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174. "Holy shit now they have Georgia leaning Biden!"
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63% odds, based on their estimates of the votes still waiting to come in. Nobody's watching Georgia closer than Upshot. They're basically putting all their analysis into GA, NC, and FL, on the grounds that Biden winning one of them would almost certainly throw the race.

We might fucking win Georgia.

Everyone said this would be a stressful night. I should have believed it.

  

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164. "Why is John King reminding me of Rain Man lol"
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166. "biden won me-01."
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https://twitter.com/DecisionDeskHQ/status/1323849023216865282

hopefully things dont come down to that but its a nice insurance policy.

looks like biden is doing well in ne-02 too.
https://electionresults.nebraska.gov/resultsSW.aspx?text=Race&type=PC&map=CTY

  

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168. "He was always getting ME-1. It's ME-2 that's a tossup"
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167. "I'm Not Liking How News Is Reporting Or Predicting Winners"
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How are you going to say a candidate won a state when the local election candidates only got 20% of the votes in but then they want to say 90% of the votes for the national election is in from the same area, that don't make any damn sense.

Either only 20% of the votes has been counted or 90% it can't be both dammit.

If I let someone borrow $100 and they tell me they got all my money but only bring me $20 claiming it's all there, then they don't know their math, and they better get me the rest of my money.

This is why I've always hated how they do these long ass "prediction shows" all night with so much little information getting people happy or sad depending on who you voted for.


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169. "The amount of commercials.. lol"
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Puts it all in perspective

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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170. "It's all looking like a racket"
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I think of all the money that flowed to Harrison in South Carolina on the premise that it was a close race. Polls showing he was leading, or tied, or very very close.

Dude is going to lose by more than double digits.


  

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172. "Nate Silver is trash"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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171. "man tx aint even close."
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repubs are gonna gerrymander that state to hell and pass more voter suppression measures to ensure that state doesnt go blue for at least another decade.

it looks like a lot of these tossups state will just be trump losing a marginal bit of ground from 2016.

maybe thats enough for pa, mi, and wi.

  

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173. "Smh"
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182. "big turn out is good for dems"
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probably a shaky statement at best moving forward

biden does have more votes than trump got in 2016 but trump has increased his votes by almost the same percentage.

overall it looks like a wash, so far, compared to 2016 in texas.

  

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175. "nytimes needle for georgia now tilting biden."
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https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/11/03/us/elections/results-georgia.html

  

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176. "https://media.tenor.com/images/16e0b9015b93b2c8ceb7adf2ed419c01/tenor.gi..."
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https://media.tenor.com/images/16e0b9015b93b2c8ceb7adf2ed419c01/tenor.gif

If it's anywhere near the recount threshold, it's Trump's though

  

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180. "Yep. https://twitter.com/conorsen/status/1323857642985541635?s=21"
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https://twitter.com/conorsen/status/1323857642985541635?s=21


And it isn’t just Georgia. Pennsylvania still has tons of absentee ballots

Only 19% of them have been counted in places like Pittsburgh too. Edit: Oh and Philly

Most of us have known this would continue into the latter part of the week.

  

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177. "this was actually kinda funny."
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https://twitter.com/kanyewest/status/1323855566314221568

  

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179. "This is sad."
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We need a W

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181. "Biden has under-performed with the Latino/a vote"
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He should've visited Texas. He should've toured with Julian Castro, Deb Haaland & AOC and made a real pitch instead of walking on stage to Despacito (that shit was funny though).

This was a very predictable (and solvable) problem for Biden heading into the general. He had some weakness with this demo in the primary - but should've really committed to making inroads over the past several months. Didn't do nearly enough.

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183. "I don't think it Biden's weakness. We gotta face it...Trump is strong"
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Him and his brand appeal to a lot of people. To be facing all this shit and still perform like this, that says something

  

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187. "Perhaps - but there's no excuse for Dems to be losing support"
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with Black and Brown voters. Biden is actually performing worse than even Hillary Clinton did among people of color, especially Latinos.

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188. "You confirmed that "
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223. "trump is strong with men. "
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thats where almost all of his improved hispanic support comes from.

https://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=13411114&mesg_id=13411114&page=#13411424

  

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185. "Fuck Texas and Tex-Mex. Texas is the ultimate Blue balls tease "
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Texas might go blue but it won’t be anytime soon. Maybe by 2032. For Texas to turn blue it would need the collapse of fossil fuels and the rise of renewable energy. Too
Much gas and oil money in that state for it to turn blue right now.

Texas was always an uphill battle and was never turning blue no matter how many times Biden went there.

  

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189. "it's not just about Texas - but the broader Latino/a vote"
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that demo should be in the bag for Dems - but it's anything but that.


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197. "Democrats don’t seem to have issues with latinos in Nevada or"
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It appears with Arizona tonight.

Florida latinos are a weird mix that is dominated by Cubans that have always went with Republicans.

  

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217. "There are a lot of conservative Lationos in the U.S."
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Although Trump pissed off a lot of Latinos with immigration policy there are also a lot that support Republicans traditionally. Not a monolithic voting block.

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471. "In the valley crime is down, jobs and home are up"
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Additionally nobody hates undocumented brown people more than brown people that had to work through the system or are here as citizens

https://www.missionchamber.com/the-rio-grande-valley-is-growing-and-business-is-booming/

and

https://woai.iheart.com/content/2019-10-17-the-rio-grande-valley-violent-new-statistics-say-the-opposite-is-true/

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200. "nah. dems just need to try harder and not bullshit."
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Latinos aren't blind loyal to them

blaming a voting segment that could tip 38 electoral votes, even without tapdancing for whites, is a losing mentality to ever change things

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205. "Mexicans/latinos by values fit better within the GOP to begin with"
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So it is a tough lift for democrats.

That being said, democrats seem to do well with Mexicans/latinos in Nevada and it seems Arizona for tonight. It isn’t like Texas has been a blue or even swing state that democrats lost in 16 and 20z

Florida is a tough mosaic of latinos. Cubans and now Venezuelans tend to trend more GOP due to Castro, Maduro and socialism.

The democrats do need to do better with latinos, especially in Texas if they want to win Texas but democrats just need to do better overall in Texas.

  

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209. "It's really not that tough of a lift - and a lot of Latinos are Catholic"
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You're telling me a Catholic Democrat who is supposed to have a far more progressive immigration platform can't make inroads with the Latino vote?

>That being said, democrats seem to do well with
>Mexicans/latinos in Nevada and it seems Arizona for tonight.

Thus far, the data shows that Biden has performed better with white voters than Clinton in '16; but underperformed with people of color (especially Latino voters). Arizona in particular has a relatively high white population so we'll see if Biden's win there was product of that or higher Latino numbers.



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212. "You think latinos that are citizens care about immigration or DACA"
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Mexicans hate Central Americans so they can all be deported as far as they are concerned. You think 2nd/3rd/4th generation Mexican Americans, some of which that barely speak Spanish and were told by their grandpa that they came here the “right way” care about newly arrived Mexican immigrants? They don’t, in fact the matter in which they do care is to look down on them, especially Mexicans from southern Mexico that look more like Montezuma than Cortez.

  

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215. "Yes - of course they care about DACA and immigration"
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It may not be the top issue (most data shows that the economy and health-care are the top issues not just for Latino voters, but for most voters) - but racial/ethnic inequality and immigration always round out the top 5 issues for Latino voters - so it's certainly an important issue even if it's not a top 2/3 issue.


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219. "Cubans, Colombians, PR, Venezuelans don’t care about DACA"
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Maybe current Mexican Americans immigrants care about DACA but 3rd and 4th probably don’t care about it much because they were told by abuelita that they came here the “right way” even though that is probably a lie.

  

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475. "Speak on it"
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218. "Agreed. His time was better spent in Michigan, PA, etc."
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Those are going to be the key states. He could've spent a lot of time in TX and had nothing to show for it at the expense of some of the northern states.

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199. "correct. Texas won't be in play until"
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Dems figure out an actual strategy to tip the Latino demographic, besides "vote for us because we deport in a nicer way than the GOP".

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221. "this is mostly a trump phenomenon imo."
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obama and clinton did pretty much the same with hispanics.

trump is turning hispanic men tho. and thats what really accounts for him eating into dem margins.

more here:
https://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=13411114&mesg_id=13411114&page=#13411424

  

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184. "Wisconsin at 0% of absentee ballots reported "
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https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/11/03/us/elections/results-wisconsin-president.html

That includes Milwaukee

  

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186. "PA’s former governor feels Biden will carry PA..."
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once the mail-in votes are counted...but it could take as long as Friday.

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190. "GOP is going to gangster those votes"
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193. "SMH "
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191. "turn florida red in this map"
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accurately shows my mood switch 1.5 hrs ago

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-biden-election-map/#VT:0,MD:0,DE:0,MA:0,DC:0,OK:1,KY:1,WV:1,CT:0,NJ:0,TN:1,AR:1,MS:1,AL:1,SC:1,IN:1,IL:0,VA:0,NY:0,LA:1,ND:1,SD:1,NE:1,WY:1,NM:0,RI:0,CO:0,KS:1,UT:1,CA:0,WA:0,OR:0,NH:0,N3:1,AZ:0,OH:1,ID:1,MO:1,M1:0,IA:1,MT:1,HI:0,MN:0

  

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192. "trump team pissed that fox news called az for biden so early."
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it completely fucked up whatever plan they had to let trump claim prematurely that he was winning.

  

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194. "fucking joni ernst won."
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senate looking harder for dems.

bullock in montana seems to be overperforming (damn near matching trump right now). hopefully that helps.

  

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195. "Trump already tweeting unhinged AF"
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crying about the election being stolen already and struggling to spell basic words.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1323863787825438720?s=20

edit: Trump (or his handler) deleted the tweet lol. It said: "We are up BIG. They are trying to STEAL the election. Votes cannot be cast after the Poles are close." (yes he spelled polls like that)

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196. "Given Arizona and Minnesota,"
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FiveThirtyEight's estimator, taking all states that have been called by *some* network into account, currently gives Biden 88% odds, Trump is at 6%, and the dreaded electoral college tie is at 6%.

So all the terror of the evening -- and I've been sharing every bit of it -- has brought down Biden's odds by one percent, and Trump's odds (of a clean win) by four percent.

We still don't know for sure, but we're still probably winning.

  

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207. "Where we're standing right now - Biden does not have a 88% chance"
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to win this thing. Doesn't mean Biden won't win - but this is not the sweeping math that 538 (and many others) once again wrongly predicted.

Maybe it's time we stop citing that as authority.

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211. "I gotta stop you here"
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>FiveThirtyEight's estimator,

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213. "Right. If this were CFB, 538/Silver would be Texas/Herman"
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394. "They called 48 of the 50 states."
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In the remaining two (FL and NC) they gave 1 in 3 odds to Trump.

Aggregators don't predict the future, they calculate probabilities.

  

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508. "My beef isn't necessary w/Silver. It's w/ publicized polls in general"
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What kind of data are you getting just prior to the election that says there's a 7 point lead in PA or 11 point lead in Wisconsin or 6 point lead in FL. Or Gideon up by 7pts in Maine or Cunningham up 10 in NC.
If that is what you get a day or two before the election, something is fundamentally messed up with your methods.

These polls are supposed to do one thing. Give a picture of expected voter behavior. If the output turns out nothing like actual voter behavior, then the model/system is wrong.

It would be cool if they were just an academic tool. People in labs trying to create a model to predict behavior. Or even something used internally by campaigns.

But these are products for mass consumption now. They are entertainment. A source of ad revenue. And they are misleading people.
And I think they are doing actual harm.


Regarding 538, there were only like 12 races worth calling. You don't need a fancy model to predict the outcome of the other races.
If NC and FL turn out to be the only misses among those, then pretty good job on the presidential side (83% hit rate). If GA and Penn fall, then he starts looking just a little better than a coin flip (66%).



  

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198. "Christie a disgusting looking motherfucker...hate to see him speaking."
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201. "6 points. "
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Rest In Peace, Bad News Brown

  

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202. "Fuck face is about to speak "
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206. "Election polling is about as accurate as palm reading"
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A part of me thinks it should be banned from election coverage or at the very least treated as gossip.

Because this is the second time that polling agencies have been embarrassed.

  

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208. "I'm going to bed, but ......"
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Didn't we all think it would take days to know? (My first post here was in jest/hope.)

Looks like it will come down to the last 3 states that determined it last time, and that it'll take a while to know.

Also this: Biden is winning by over 1.2 million votes as I go to sleep - it really shows the harm that the electoral college makes.

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210. "Numbers keep swinging."
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A lot of people stereotype Latin Americans, and think that the people who vote
for trump are mainly Mexicans, Cuban, and are Catholic. That’s not the case.
And there are lot of Latin Americans who are anti-immigration, because illegal immigration hurts job wages, which hurts Latin American citizens.

For Latin Americans who immigrated to America the right way, and for Latin Americans who were born in America, they believe in being self-reliant, entrepreneurs, and pro-life, and that all falls in line with what trump promotes. Latin Americans are not concerned about welfare issues, redistribution of wealth, universal healthcare, corona virus pandemic, or protecting the environment. Those are major agendas for democrats, and a lot of latinos don’t fall in line with them. Democrats didn’t do their research.






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216. "I agree with your assessment on Latin and Mexican Americans "
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As voting group, all Latin Americans values are better aligned with the GOP, including immigration. Latin Americans, legal or illegally here don’t more illegal immigrants coming and competing with them for low wage jobs.

  

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220. "trump improving with hispanics is largely due to the gender gap."
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the gap between hispanic men and women this cycle is even greater than the gender gap among white voters.

https://twitter.com/Robin_Volpi/status/1321743595016278017

trumps strength is appealing to men.

ethnic/racial lines are fading as indicators compared to gender.

  

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214. "chuck schumer needs to kick rocks."
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dude isnt doing shit for the senate.

i hope he isnt voted majority/minority leader.

  

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J305
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222. "Some of the swing states don't start counting mail-in votes on election ..."
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NYT had a good breakdown state by state:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/upshot/vote-counting-today-polls-election.html

Notably, Michigan and PA don't start counting mail in votes on election night. Some of the counties in PA are intentionally slow rolling to help Trump.

We're not going to know final counts for a while, and there may be some shifts. Dems have been saying this for a while.

Trump's team knows this, which is why they're pushing this narrative around Dems 'stealing it back' after election night results.

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224. "Knew he would do this. Still - oh. My. God. "
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Even Ben Shapiro is like nahhhhh fam

  

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226. "Complete craziness. I tuned into Fox just to see what they said"
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they were critical and essentially said it's too early to call. So not even all of his cheerleaders are fully behind this move.

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227. "Yeah it was surprisingly comforting from them "
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I guess even they have their limits. No way I’m
Sleeping tonight after all this

  

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229. "if anyone had faith in the way the media would portray this:"
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https://twitter.com/sppeoples/status/1323890903728226309

  

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225. "That was one of the most disgusting speeches ever"
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Being an optimist and looking at numbers and voting trends hopefully 75% of those mail in are for Biden and the result will go our way. Never thought i would see the day the president says the election is fraudulent. fucking shame for our country.

  

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228. "And then pence says we need to count all the votes lol"
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230. "he did exactly what everyone said he would do"
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and still the media is pretty much a mixed bag on how theyre framing it.

just cant get right.

  

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232. "^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^"
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peace

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231. "i think trump is gonna lose and not leave."
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like a lot of people predicted.

i dont even know what we do at that point.

  

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233. "Can the Great Lake states finish counting their votes before SCOTUS?"
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I also agree that if he loses he won’t leave or he will leave and setup his new confederacy and southern White House in Ma a Lago.

  

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234. "Is he losing tho? Please Reeq, say you're right lol"
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This shit looks bleak AF from where I'm sitting but Ionno... Seems like a lot of key states are lost already and I don't see a lot of good news

  

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236. "Biden is currently losing but a lot of votes left to count "
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Biden only needs to win Wisconsin and Michigan or Pennsylvania + 1 other Great Lake state.

I wish Biden were ahead in those states right now but he can still catch him because enough votes are still out there to be counted.

  

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238. "Biden isn't losing"
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he's ahead in total votes and electoral votes

  

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242. "Biden is ahead in the popular and electoral vote but he is behind "
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In all three Great Lake states at the moment. For Biden to hit 270 he needs to simply win all three or Michigan and Wisconsin or Pennsylvania and 1 other Great Lake state.

  

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241. "Unfortunate as it may be, Trump is way out ahead in those states"
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Georgia and Carolina seem they’re surely going Trump

And he’s way out ahead in Wisconsin and Pennsylvania, so much so that it just seems mail-in totals aren’t even going to matter

If Trump gets

Georgia
Carolina
Wisconsin
Pennsylvania

it’s curtains for Biden , regardless what happens in Nevada or Michigan (where he’s up as well)

  

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243. "Mail in ballots are probably about 75% Biden"
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He has paths to victories in all of those states. In fact Fox was just saying Georgia has a good chance of going Biden. I would imaging the same for North Carolina. Unfortunate as it is i believe it will come down to PA and the segregated votes will probably go to the supreme court to revisit the case that they refused to rule on earlier last month. I think it was Alito that basically gave PA the chance to re-file the case once Barrett is seated. If Biden can pull GA or NC and make PA a moot point i see him winning without too much challenge. If it comes down to PA that shit is gonna be Florida all over again.

  

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244. "This is where I'm at with it right now"
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Unfortunate as
>it is i believe it will come down to PA and the segregated
>votes will probably go to the supreme court to revisit the
>case that they refused to rule on earlier last month. I think
>it was Alito that basically gave PA the chance to re-file the
>case once Barrett is seated. If Biden can pull GA or NC and
>make PA a moot point i see him winning without too much
>challenge. If it comes down to PA that shit is gonna be
>Florida all over again.

I did just go out and buy another bottle of wine an hour ago before the corner store closed once they said they were expecting some WI news within the next few hours.

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But hell, what do I know?

  

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245. "Yes all true but I think Biden just needs to win Michigan and Wisconsin "
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He wins those and this all over.

  

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235. "I cannot believe this many people still voted for this guy."
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I'm hopeful of the full count, but fuck, how have 64 million so far voted for this man again? I don't understand it. America is fucked, its been fucked, but this is going to turn into been more blatant fuckery.

I'm disgusted.

If a fat guy falls in the woods and there is no one around to see it, do the trees laugh?

  

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267. "this is where im at from across the pond"
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un-fuckin-believable

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237. "They're calling Arizona for Biden"
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and he will definitely win Nevada.

  

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239. "I know we have said this over and over again these last 4 years BUT"
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If Obama did what trump just did then Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania militias would be driving to the White House right now

  

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240. "this was fucking bullshit."
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the teases. Oh, how I thought Ohio might get its head out of its ass, but fuckin' Lorain and Trumbull county.

Texas. That was a wish, but bullshit in the end.

Not sure what to say about NC.

AZ actually being a state flip for Biden was great. At least he won something Hillary didn't.

But the bullshit that GOP state legislators pulled in Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin.... they could have been counted these fuckin' votes.

Georgia won't be done until later. Surprised at a lot of these results. Fulton ain't done.

I'd be less mad (still mad, but less) if there was no COVID.

But I'm mad.

Because there is no way you "class dimension" away this sort of performance from the GOP. Slight argument when it comes to the Dems and their strategy, but IMO... Biden/Harris except for the coalitions they tried to pull together did some things better than Hillary.

GOP votes are not for better economics. Unless you're already rich as fuck.

It's for whiteness. Nothing else.

Democrats are coded "Black and other". And these voters don't want that.

200K lives don't mean shit.
The economy in ruins don't mean shit.
a goddamn pandemic being in the way don't mean shit.

even if Biden wins this, we are The Nazi State.

Exit polls already looking like the only group who lost Trump votes... were white men. WTF.

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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246. "Shit is mad frustrating Doc"
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I honestly believe this was set to steal these states. I believe Wisconsin tried to start counting votes prior to today or at least one of these state did. Obviously he is going to challenge the process as much as he can. Like i said above i believe it will come down to PA's republican party re-filing their previous case with the assistance of Trump and problably the Justice Department. I believe they can attach themselves to that previous case which Alito wrote in his decision that they could re-file and the court was not taking a position at that moment. It makes sense that the Republicans did not re-file prior to the election because i believe it gives them a direct case to attach themselves to post election. That is the only place i believe they have any real chance of getting to the supreme court quickly. Also they already ruled ballots received after 8PM must be segregated so they can immediately invalidate a large swath of votes with just a blanket ruling on those from the now super majority supreme court.

For the first time in my life i am hoping Fox was right and Biden can take GA and NC making PA a moot point.

There was one other state that had to segregate mail in votes received late. I cannot remember whether it was NC, OH or WI.

  

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255. "How anyone could trust polls after 2016 is just... "
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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247. "GA QAnon Senate candidate facing a runoff in Jan thank Gawd"
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I saw some outlets crowning her earlier tonight.

You know that shit's going to be an uphill battle though.. *That's* gonna be the frontlines for the militias should things not go their way at the top of the ticket. Hell, even if.

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248. "So are y’all ready for another four years?"
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249. "😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭"
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250. "Not when Biden is still predicted to win"
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Nevada and Wisconsin will go to Biden. Michigan and Penn are likely.

  

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256. "A close race is not good."
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________________________________________
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251. "Yes, unfortunately I’ve always been a pessimist "
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and knew these polls were trash.

Still holding out hope but I’m just focusing on local shit. Fuck the feds.

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268. "We're more than 4 years away..."
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>

From this shit being anywhere near what some people dream this country to be.

I keep saying this and I keep being told that I'm being harsh. But I'm looking for proof that I am wrong: we are surrounded by people that are okay with this country as is. Some are even clinging to it and hoping it never changes because they still like their cut in the heist.

RIGHT NOW WE ALREADY KNOW that more than 60 MILLION people lived the last 4 years and said 'yeah, let's roll with this guy again'. That should be enough to tell all of us that what we see online and on most TV channels is inaccurate at best. Or it is at least magnified on a portion of the population that barely represents half of us. Some people are totally fine with where we're at and their standards and expectations for that prez job aren't what people keep saying they are.

For the 2nd time IN A ROW we have been told with borderline lazy confidence that DT was toast for months on end.

And now, as we wait for votes to be counted, we're basically looking at something resembling 50/50. RED all up on the maps they keep showing. After everything that has gone down. Recently. Still. 50/50. And DT is for real standing around trying to stop the votes from being counted. What is he really afraid of? 53/47? For real? This is actually happening? To me, if its 53/47, I AM STILL GOING TO BE PISSED OFF.

For clarity, I am not shocked. I had several hints that this was going to happen. But I am tired of being told that this is not where we're at. Because this is exactly where we are at.

If the people we're surrounded by aren't changing, I want the coverage to change.

  

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252. ""Voters were divided on whether the nation has contained the spread of t..."
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"Voters were divided on whether the nation has contained the spread of the virus. About half of voters said the virus is somewhat or mostly under control. And about half described the coronavirus as out of control." AP VoteCast via
@joshboak

@hrfingerhut

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370. "Trump is doing better this year than he did in 2016 in counties with hig..."
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Trump is doing better this year than he did in 2016 in counties with high COVID-19 death rates.


https://twitter.com/bradheath/status/1323827431178948615

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532. "Now that's a crazy stat."
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peace

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254. "Looking ahead a little, what role could SCOTUS play?"
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It seems like their stance is the state legislatures make the rules. So anything not put into state law is fair game to toss out.

That seems really broad and puts a lot at stake. Anybody else have a good read on this?

  

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257. "The hate is real and they want us to leave"
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It's gonna be ugly even if Biden squeaks this out...and Trump world is not gonna just take the L and sit down. This is a showdown.

  

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260. "yeah the hate is past real, look at how they reelected the racist"
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senators: graham, mcconell, hyde-smith, tuberville, cronym

voter suppression/intimidation is real. rural amerikkka is real.

take a message

  

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258. "good news: trump is toast."
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biden winning wi, mi, az, and projected to win pa.

theres a lot of doom and gloom about dems but the fact remains that trump got ousted.

we have a lot to deal with going forward but i can at least be happy with the fact that these fucking magats wont be celebrating a trump win and swan diving in liberal tears.

  

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259. "good morning papi..."
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I slept very little.

  

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261. "You sure"
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n/m

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262. "Man.. I really hope this is true."
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but I have a feeling they are going to yank this shit from us and gangster the courts to stop counting all the votes.

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263. "Too soon? nm"
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But hell, what do I know?

  

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272. "same as in 2000, SC will have the final say"
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________________________________________
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308. "we also needed the senate. "
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#tired

.
http://perspectivesudans.blogspot.com/
i myself would never want to be god,or even like god.Because god got all these human beings on this planet and i most certainly would not want to be responsible for them, or even have the disgrace that i made them.

  

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309. "A lot of reckless doom and gloom going on. Playing right into their hand..."
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In here and other places.

  

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264. "btw i think lack of traditional campaigning/organizing really hurt dems."
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while dems scaled back their in-person operation in a lot of areas and focused on digital outreach (due to pandemic)...repubs ran up the score on door knocks and voter registrations in a lot of areas.

those traditional methods are especially effective in black/brown communities. and just simple changes in campaign behavior and election rules/methods tend to affect those voters the most.

dems handcuff themselves with moral clauses that dont exist (not knocking...just saying it usually hurts us or holds us back). and gop just plows ahead with whatever they think it takes to win.

it was the right thing to do (especially if dems wanted to maintain the high road on the pandemic). but it was also the wrong thing to do...if you get what im saying.

you also had the mail/in-person gap between the parties that allowed a corrupted usps to systematically target dem votes for suppression on a widespread basis. and i think a lot of dems were actually discouraged from going to the polls during the pandemic...even if they couldnt vote by mail or their ballot never got tallied.

i think all in all...this election was an anomaly that shouldnt really be taken as harbinger off too many trends. there were so many real world conditions that were unfavorable to dems that arent represented in polling, recaps, etc.

  

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273. "The real world conditions were also very unfavorable to the incumbent"
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I don't think it's a coincidence that the states Biden is making a run in were the hardest impacted by Covid.

Let's also look at the future of centrism. The sensible centrists don't seem to carry the votes in recent history. Obama was one but did not run as one. Thesocialism stigma is something that needs to be figured out. That trope has been used for almost a century (rugged individualism vs. socialism by Hoover in 1928, a dichotomy that continues today with how people want to deal with the pandemic)

100% agree that taking the high road (in the cases you mention as well as say, the presidential debates) so often backfires for the dems or is at best a simultaneous win / loss.

  

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277. "Nope... that excuse can’t be used"
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If we can march and protest we can knock on doors

Sorry, I’m not buying any excuses this time around. If we lose it’s because America likes Trump. It shouldn’t even be close after 4 years of this shit.

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290. "Yup, With Covid, civil unrest, bad economy, etc there should be no excus..."
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It's not a lack of door knocking. Turnout was huge.
People just don't mind (or they like) Trump.

>If we can march and protest we can knock on doors
>
>Sorry, I’m not buying any excuses this time around. If we
>lose it’s because America likes Trump. It shouldn’t even
>be close after 4 years of this shit.
>
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299. "I’m going to get flamed for this but iont give a fuck right now "
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I’m in my feels

When you have people who can’t open small businesses due to covid but the big box stores stay open. It makes people resent the people in charge. We can say it’s Trump but they easily spin it as local gov and Trump keeps begging for the to open up.

When you have a bunch of people getting covid and most of them aren’t dying... it breeds resentment and opens up doubts about why everything is closed.

When you see Black and Brown folk marching and protesting during a pandemic that’s supposed to be so scary it can kill you... it makes people believe it’s all bullshit.

So they see destruction and people roaming the streets all night and hike the media tells everyone to stay inside because you’ll die if you go outside.. well, it doesn’t add up. So now it looks like everyone is in on some conspiracy to oust trump do they double down... and I’m sure a lot of soccer moms are tired of being at home with their bad ass kids and bearing Trump beg to open things up starts sounding like gospel to them.

Not saying its right but I think that’s how THEY think.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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305. "sounds pretty accurate tbh lol "
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314. "That was pretty much Trump's campaign strategy from the summer onwards"
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Get people to feel that way (that its all bullshit) and position himself as the rescuer. "LIBERATE MICHIGAN! LIBERATE...."

  

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297. "you didnt actually dispute what i said."
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349. "I’m in my feels, little sleep, hungover and at work.. "
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Don’t take anything I say personally.

I’m mad.

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265. "Nate Silver and 538 needs to shut it down after this."
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270. "polling misses are a worldwide phenomenon now."
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and they just about always favor conservatives.

in australia...their liberal opposition party led in every single poll up to the election...and were a shoe in to win power in what many called an unloseable election. well...they suprisingly lost and people were criticizing the polling industry over there.

in the uk...corbyn and labor were supposed to run a competitive election against boris johnson and the conservatives/tories according to consistent polling. tories ended up winning in a historical landslide and pollsters came under fire over there.

in nz...their liberal female leader cakewalked to another term and expanded her partys power in the legislature. they asked what made the difference and she said rupert murdoch doesnt loom over their media like he does in other western democracies.

i think people vastly underestimate the power that fox news, facebook, etc have in influencing election results...particularly late down the stretch.

  

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274. "from what I understand they mainly poll people with landline phones"
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________________________________________
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2H5K-BUMS0

  

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276. "there are various polling methods."
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even within individual firms...a lot of them use a mix.

  

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281. "we knew shit was flawed after 2016. Why anyone thought..."
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it was a good idea to get hyped up over polls in 2020 is beyond me.

“In the suburbs white women... blah, blah FOH”

Just wait until the election results. All that other shit is just media hype and hot takes.

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387. "That's generally not an issue anymore. "
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Most pollsters do call cell phone lines.

And even if one type of line is overrepresented, that can be (and is) corrected by reweighting the averages to account for it.

  

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287. "When polls are consistently off by double digits..."
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It's time to question their usefulness.

At this point it's just guessing with the illusion of statistics.

  

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386. "No, it's time to recalibrate them. "
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The poll results have never just been "this percentage said they'd vote for X and this percentage said they'd vote for Y." The numbers are always weighted by some model of likelihood for those voters to show up. In 2016 and (apparently to a lesser extent) this year, they've underestimated the likelihood of Trump voters to show up. We need to learn from those errors and improve for the future. This year they seem to have improved things by weighting by education, which was ignored in likely-voter models in 2016. This year they appear to have erred by failing to weight by concern over Covid.

Science is complicated, but it still works.

  

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390. "As of right now it looks like they called 48 of the 50 states."
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The two misses (Florida and NC) were both cases where they were giving significant probability to a Trump win (better than 1 in 3 for both of them).

  

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468. "It's not just the Presidential polling. The polling on the Senate races ..."
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They were more bullish on Biden's chances than the Dems flipping the Senate.

  

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266. "Update from Stacey Abrams in GA"
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https://twitter.com/staceyabrams/status/1323985585237884930



Here's where we are:

1. Local elections officials are taking the time necessary to make sure every eligible vote is counted.
2. Trump is losing and trying to crown himself the winner.
3. Voters choose the future. We fought for fairer elections and it’s working.

4. We expected all of this.
5. Now comes the hard part: Wait and don’t panic.
6. We can see the path to victory running from north to south.

We’ve got this, y’all! #Election2020


from SA

take a message

  

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271. "Praying she's right."
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_____________________________________

Let me guess, I can have "good day" now, right?

  

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269. "Such a crazy election that could come down to.....Omaha"
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Biden won a single CD in Omaha - which may sound insignificant - but with that win all he has to do now is win Wisconsin, Nevada and Michigan (all states where the outstanding votes yet to be counted look to favor Biden) - and he will win the Presidency.

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275. "I'd like someone to try and explain how in TF Trump"
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has lost ground with white voters (namely white men, of all people) - but gained ground with Black and Brown voters.

Do we have to admit that there's a shifting landscape to the electorate that essentially nobody saw coming? Or is this data incomplete and/or anomalous so as to not put too much thought into?


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278. "Every group has the ability to vote against itself....."
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Even black and brown voters.

This election cycle it was "socialism" and the "crime bill" and that resonated with some black and brown voters.

They were looking for a reason to not like Biden and they got one.

I don't think it's sustainable. Usually Democrats don't run retread candidates in Presidential elections so this hasn't been a problem.

  

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280. "The crime bill and cop thing hurt. "
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**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

  

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292. "yeah biden had unique vulnerabilities with his own base."
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298. "crime bill, age, history, democratic cities"
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311. "It’s a damn shame that the stink of socialism was ever brought up "
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Not by trump. They used it to their advantage.


We have exactly one person to blame for that on our side

  

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338. "you sound like a loud and wrong broken record w/ this non-sense"
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Acting like "socialism" is a new republican smear that only emerged in 2016. Obama was called a Marxist and a communist throughout his entire tenure -- red-scare tactics has been here for damn near a century - regardless of who the candidate is.

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400. "um they called him a Kenyan. Remember the whole Birther thing?"
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>Acting like "socialism" is a new republican smear that only
>emerged in 2016. Obama was called a Marxist and a communist
>throughout his entire tenure -- red-scare tactics has been
>here for damn near a century - regardless of who the candidate
>is.
>
>-->


And yes red scare tactics are not new. But they've seen a resurgence -- thanks to one dude who chose to spend his career in Vermont while pointing out coastal elitism lol



if he had any political savvy at all he would've labeled his shit literally anything else.

But here we fucking are.

  

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284. "RE: I'd like someone to try and explain how in TF Trump"
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>has lost ground with white voters (namely white men, of all
>people) - but gained ground with Black and Brown voters.
>


I have a good associate who's a filmmaker and journalist, and she's been interviewing black/brown ppl who are trump supporters, and what she find out the common thread amongst black men is a "revenge" against the Dems on the crime bill, particularly supported by Biden, and also most of these men are businessmen who side w/ republican initiatives of tax breaks/loopholes.

as for the latinos, i'm from south florida- the cubans have always identified as white and conservative. and lately the west indians/caribbean are leaning towards republican too. but my guess for the latinx is the mass deportation from the last admin was a betrayal.


and losing white men votes means broken promises such as the farming/agriculture being hit, and "made in usa" hasnt happen yet, but i'm speculating.


this election appears to be holding grudges against the Dems, and they shouldnt be shocked.

take a message

  

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295. "RE: I'd like someone to try and explain how in TF Trump"
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>>has lost ground with white voters (namely white men, of all
>>people) - but gained ground with Black and Brown voters.
>>
>
>
>I have a good associate who's a filmmaker and journalist, and
>she's been interviewing black/brown ppl who are trump
>supporters, and what she find out the common thread amongst
>black men is a "revenge" against the Dems on the crime bill,
>particularly supported by Biden, and also most of these men
>are businessmen who side w/ republican initiatives of tax
>breaks/loopholes.
>
>as for the latinos, i'm from south florida- the cubans have
>always identified as white and conservative. and lately the
>west indians/caribbean are leaning towards republican too. but
>my guess for the latinx is the mass deportation from the last
>admin was a betrayal.
>
>
>and losing white men votes means broken promises such as the
>farming/agriculture being hit, and "made in usa" hasnt happen
>yet, but i'm speculating.
>
>
>this election appears to be holding grudges against the Dems,
>and they shouldnt be shocked.

Very well said. I think you nailed it.

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303. "people mad about the "crime bill" are mostly young, dumb, uniformed..."
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and either weren't alive or not of age when that was going on. The crime bill had the support of the congressional black caucus. Crack and gangs were ravaging our community. Most black folks were begging for something to be done.

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307. "Doesn't matter. It's a talking point that can sway a number of people"
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There are a lot of people who are young, dumb, and uninformed. And their votes count too.

  

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317. "I agree with all this and I think this is where the lack of door knockin..."
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Really hurt Democrats and Biden. Plus the misinformation social media didn’t help.

Still, it is concerning when trump himself, while a citizen probably supported the crime bill, Biden should have ran trumps op-ed on the Central Park 5.

  

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318. "those young dumb and uninformed men are grown men in their"
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40s and 50s. been out within the past 15 or 20 years, did long term sentences for a gram of crack/weed or non-armed robbery.
now they're older, establish and reinstated their right to vote- if that means voting for the wolf over the fox, so be it. its their right.

take a message

  

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331. "nah you got a lot of 20-30y/o's yapping about the "crime bill" that ALL...."
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black politicians where in on.

During that time if you didn't have a "tough on crime" stance you weren't getting elected to any office.


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353. "that age group barely votes, its the older black men who were"
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incarcerated in the late 80s and 90s in their 20s/30s when Biden and Clinton pushed the CB that served stiffer sentences including capital punishment.

and even the ones who never spent a day in prison or dgaf about the CB are slowly switching teams because they are fed up of being ignored. in 2016, Trump got 14% of the black male vote. once this election is over, it might bump up to 18%.


even the Democratic Party has taken severe notice of black men trickling over to the red side.

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/522234-heres-why-young-black-male-voters-favor-trump

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285. "you have to look at men v women"
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I heard a lot of "Latinos aren't a monolith" takes on TV last night, and none of them really went into the gender gap too deeply if at all, even though that has clearly been established as the main aspect indicating Trump support. A decent share of Latino men seem to buy into the economic aspect of Trump and or his "business savvy" (lol), while for Black men it may be distrust to Biden more, but I haven't read as much on that aspect as on the Latino thing so I'm not sure

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288. "Some of them want to be Americans so bad they buy all the way in"
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and unfortunately some of them love the tough talk Trump uses.

But really.. it’s more so about these white women.

You can’t trust them.

They love Trump.

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291. "i wouldnt put too much into it."
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first the exit polling is highly unreliable this cycle because of the large disparity in how the main parties voted and how outlets are attempting to extrapolate that.

also trump is a fairly unique force...especially in his ability to use the media to drive narratives and appeal to certain voters (especially men). and also how his presence helped drive a lot of persuasive disinformation for him and against his opponents.

the silver lining here imo is...trump was the repubs modern reagan in terms of his hold over the base and the coalition he strung together. the real reagan got re-elected in a landslide and was even strong enough to get another repub prez elected immediately after him. trump maxed out his base and was still defeated at the ballot box.

there are a ton of differentiating factors but i dont think every element of ‘trumpism’ translates into a longer term trend that boosts the electoral success/viability of the party beyond the candidate like reaganism did.

  

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302. "I don’t think you can really compare the periods of "
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Trump or Regan, or even compare them individually. The times are extremely different.

Regan’s strong point was homeland security and taking down Russia, because America was deep in a Cold War battle with the Soviet Union. And people no longer trusted the democrats, due to Jimmy Carter’s administration failing in the handling of the Iran hostage situation.

Regan was a god in the eyes of his supporters for killing the communists and taking over as the main super power.

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316. "‘there are a ton of differentiating factors but...’ (c)"
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can we compare any people ever if we just point out the differences in time periods, specific social conditions, etc?

why do we compare lebron/jordan, blueprint/chronic, chappelle show/in living color, etc?

we arent doing 1:1 correlation.

  

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294. "He reached his ceiling w/ white men. Blacks & Hispanics were a target"
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They spent a lot of effort there because there is a good return on investment. He only needs a tiny swing there to make a big impact.

Turn that 10% of the black vote to about 15%, and the democrats start having problems. And it's not hard to give a compelling message to peel away such a small number of people.

  

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306. "theres a history of repub incumbents doing better with voters of color."
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wilt chamberlain endorsed nixon...muhammad ali endorsed reagan...etc.

gw bush almost got 45% of the hispanic vote and marginally increased his black support and actually had a record high in black approval of a gop president since eisenhower at one point.

  

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322. "W got a majority of the Muslim-American vote in 2000"
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279. "Bernie with the half court pull-up..."
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286. "Mail in voting was such a bad idea.. lol"
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I know the pandemic and all but if people are going to Walmart and shit.. they can go vote.

I know, I know... that sounds crazy and all votes should be counted but we know what we are dealing with this year.

Shenanigans about to happen

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296. "mail in voting is part of the reason we had high turnout."
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it might have actually saved dems in some places.

the problem was you have repubs going through extraordinary measures to rig/undermine it...which should automatically tell you how good it is for democracy.

  

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301. "It’s too easy to dump mailed votes tho"
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That’s my issue

We know they cheat so we needed to make it as hard as possible for them to snatch it from us.

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315. "Using mail-ins when you knew the USPS was being undermined"
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AND that Trump telegraphed the shit out of his strategy to cut the count short is honestly soft as fuck of liberal voters.

Stand your ass in line and vote like Republicans are happy to do.

  

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310. "the problem is different states have different methods as to when..."
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they count mail-in votes. Some are able to count them before. Some have to wait until the day of or after the election. The mail-in votes should be counted as they come in and the numbers not reveal until voting is over.

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293. "Damn Tio Bernie out here with the prophecy."
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313. "."
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321. "People act like almost half of some of those places aren't bullshit too...."
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A lot these election results are 55-45 or 50-48 and shit like that.

It's not a huge margin. There's pockets of assholes all over.

  

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347. "right lol..."
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>A lot these election results are 55-45 or 50-48 and shit like
>that.
>
>It's not a huge margin. There's pockets of assholes all over.
>

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289. "Time to just go to 4 parties "
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Bernie Bros, Democrats, Republicans, and Trumpers.

  

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300. "repubs (trumpers, as they are one in the same) would steamroll america"
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320. "smh at anyone thinking Trumpers and Republicans are different demos"
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falling for that Lincoln Project BS

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324. "Where are all the sensible Republicans we were courting?"
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327. "suburbs in michigan, pennsylvania, georgia, arizona, etc."
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do they not count?

  

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330. "I'm a little underwhelmed so far. The Republicans have not"
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shown the splintering I had hoped for. But, it's early.

  

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329. "You don’t think that would break it up?"
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How easily did Trump become the Republican nominee in ‘16? I don’t remember.

Are the conspiracy theorists and anti-maskers freaking out in Drug Stores, and super spreader rally attenders the whole party?

  

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334. "Repubs will turn a blind eye to the shittier / shadier side of their"
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party quicker than dems will embrace democratic socialism or Bernie Bros. It's a tendency for capitulation and compromise that is admirable but is not shared by the right. The Nu-Right have been radicalized by the internet apparently lol.

  

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337. "68 million people have voted for Trump so far"
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what in the HELL are you talking about

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346. "I’m saying...."
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if there was a “normal” Republican candidate as well as Trump....how would that shake out?

There’s gotta be a way to lessen the influence of those extremists. We just gonna be sweating it out like this every time going forward? I hate this shit.....we don’t even talk about the issues anymore or do anything to make real progress. It’s just, vote for the candidate that will have the best chance to beat the fucking terrorist that the other side is trotting out there.

  

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356. "he *is* their normal candidate"
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you're proposing that another Dubya Bush candidate would splinter the GOP voting demographic and make American a liberal lean?

the Dems presented their moderate candidate, an old Catholic white guy who ran on "a decency platform" while skirting any progressive ideas. registered Republicans did. not. give. a. fuck.

63 million voted for Trump in 2016. 68 million people liked what they saw and voted for him again.

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358. "Yeah, man.....I’m struggling with this whole shit"
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I still can’t believe all this is real life.

  

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339. "nah that's a 25% vs 25% vs 50% fight. repubs dream of that"
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335. "That's correct. There is no "moderate Republican" party anymore. "
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If there really ever was one.

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304. "RE: Time to just go to 4 parties "
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>Bernie Bros, Democrats, Republicans, and Trumpers.

There’s enough money for that to work, yes?

BUT

Would folks be cool with someone winning office with 28% of a vote?

  

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332. "a multiparty system would ensure conservative rule forever"
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by diluting the liberal vote.

because conservatives are largely a homogenous bloc and liberals have so many divided factions.

there are a ton of countries where the combined vote on the left outpaces the vote on the right but the right wins because the liberal vote is split between multiple parties. they have strategic voting websites in places like canada just to try to get people not to lose elections where liberals account for 55+% of the vote lol.

and we are a lot dumber than those countries. we cant even manage not to fuck up elections where the green party gets like 3% of the vote. now imagine two liberal parties where one or both are getting 15-20+% of the vote each.

itd be a disaster.

  

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341. "correct"
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look at the UK

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357. "Fair point"
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Makes sense.

I’m really tired of this extremist shit. It’s just hard to fathom that 49% of our country is really that crazy. Was hoping Trump would get soundly thumped this time around and that they’d be forced to regroup and send out a more normal candidate next time.

  

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>Bernie Bros,

But brooklynwhat is right too


  

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326. "dumb idea"
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340. "so your takeaway is that Dems need to abandon progressives"
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and run on some pure "hug the good Republicans" platform?

sounds literally like the worst idea forward ever

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351. "Umm....no"
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I’m saying that the outreach of these fucking nut jobs needs to be minimized so we can actually have a real election between legitimate candidates.

Maybe what I said would backfire. Anybody got anything else though? We gonna just keep doing this “who cares, at least it’s not Trump vs. Trump” everytime?

  

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361. "Dems need to stop sending candidates that cater to the donor class"
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and start sending candidates who want to make REAL policy changes that positively impact the minority demographics they could swing to their side. huge voter outreach, voter registrations, wins at lower levels to build momentum.

Dems did the moderate thing while in power with Obama. it just disenfranchised a bunch of leftist voters and made Republicans hate them even more.

the fact the Biden campaign just refreshed 538 polls and patted themselves on the back for "converting white suburbans" while not having ANY kind of real nationwide Latino or Black strategy is an indictment.

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381. "RE: Dems need to stop sending candidates that cater to the donor class"
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>and start sending candidates who want to make REAL policy
>changes that positively impact the minority demographics they
>could swing to their side. huge voter outreach, voter
>registrations, wins at lower levels to build momentum.
>
>Dems did the moderate thing while in power with Obama. it just
>disenfranchised a bunch of leftist voters and made Republicans
>hate them even more.
>
>the fact the Biden campaign just refreshed 538 polls and
>patted themselves on the back for "converting white suburbans"
>while not having ANY kind of real nationwide Latino or Black
>strategy is an indictment.

100%.

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504. "its really that simple."
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"They used to call me Baby Luke....but now? The whole damn 2 Liiiive Crew."

  

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514. "You’re right. My bad."
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319. "Seems like it's gonna come down to Michigan & Wisconsin"
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Did some OKP QuickMath (c) w/ the online numbers.

  

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323. "It was always going to come down to a few states"
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It's crazy how literally 20,000-30,000 votes will determine the election.

BTW, Biden has over 2.5 millions more votes than Trump right now.

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325. "hes gonna have the most votes ever."
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328. "I think Ohio will continue to trend red from here. Florida too."
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This huge Latino influx into Florida isn't going to be the big boost for Dems that people thought. I would like to see a breakdown of this election by nationality. I think Latino voting trends are kinda difficult to read.

I can't speak authoritatively on Ohio anymore but I get the impression that people are still leaving the state. I'm assuming that they're still losing people each year. These people that are leaving might be heading to large cities in other states. I think that the Ohioans who would vote blue might be leaving the state in droves.

On the flip, are there any states that may be creeping towards turning blue? I don't know what yesterday's Texas numbers mean in the long run. Maybe Georgia?

  

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336. "Agree with you on Ohio turning more red for the reasons you gave"
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States turning more blue would be states like Nevada, Colorado, Arizona, Georgia and North Carolina.

Nevada and Colorado were toss up states in early 2000 but it looks like we have been able to maintain our gains there after Obama won them in 08/12.

Anything that touches California will continue to trend blue. I have some hope that Idaho will also go blue by 2032. Lots of California, Oregon and Washington folks are moving to Idaho.

North Carolina I believe will start turning blue as well.

  

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360. "This is an interesting list of states..."
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>States turning more blue would be states like Nevada,
>Colorado, Arizona, Georgia and North Carolina.

I've been very surprised at Arizona. I always thought it was a locked up red state.

>Anything that touches California will continue to trend blue.
>I have some hope that Idaho will also go blue by 2032. Lots
>of California, Oregon and Washington folks are moving to
>Idaho.

Word? This could be interesting. Idaho seems like somewhere people go to get away from the urban/liberal/progressive crowd.

>North Carolina I believe will start turning blue as well.

This is gonna be a good one to watch too.

  

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364. "People will scoff at the Idaho suggestion but it has a small population"
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So it wouldn’t take a large influx of people from California, Washington and Oregon to start to move it purple and then blue.

The problem with Texas is the population is so large.

  

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405. "Texas' population is the reason it should be focused on"
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>The problem with Texas is the population is so large.

there are already 6 million eligible Latino voters living in Texas. Dems need to youth outreach and registration, because a lot of the demographic skews young and did not grow up in voting households.

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333. "definitely disappointed that its this close"
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even if biden somehow pulls nc/ga the margins are just too close. i give a half pass for voting for trump in 2016..maybe quarter pass. voting for him after the past 4 years??? nope

even if biden does win the election its looking close enough to be vulnerable to the bs they have been telling us they would try to pull.

this is what i was hoping would be avoided, thats why i really wanted to see NC and one of FL, GA, TX called for biden. i dont know how to stop giving in to optimism.

right now im hoping biden has the votes in PA before any mail from today is counted. im hoping he keeps the vote with any mail that comes in today and beyond. obviously hope hes winning WI, MI and NV. if this true then it blunts some of the BS theyre trying to pull.

still worried they will find a way to put enough doubt in the courts.

worried we will have some faithless electors switching to trump.

worried trump will just stay in.

maybe this is the winter GOT kept warning about.

  

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352. "Some People don’t vote based on social or civil issues "
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They vote based on policies and agendas that reflect their PERSONAL interest and concerns. If you’re a businessman and you’re looking to preserve or maintain the majority of your capital, and not have to pay an immense amount of taxes, then Trump’s agenda could be more favorable to that demographic.

Social issues are not a concern for a lot of people who feel they can self govern and be self reliant through ownership and business opportunities. Voting is all about classification. This is why Latin American politics and financial agendas are so misunderstood.

They don’t have the same racial issues or civil history with America like African Americans do, so their perspective of living in America is completely different.

Main reasons why some vote republican:

Pro-life
Financial freedom
Anti-immigration
Lower taxes
Homeland security

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359. "how many people that voted for trump own a business?"
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there are too many people flipping burgers that buy into trump being good for their bottom line against all evidence.

i definitely know about latinos being anti-illegal immigration, even if they are americans due to their parents being undocumented.

some people really voted for trump because he was convinced to give them a $600 check when everything was crumbling.

  

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342. "fam look at the ballot delivery failure rates by the usps"
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especially in places like metro atlanta and philly.

https://twitter.com/johnkruzel/status/1324004554485211136

this may have well been a landslide (or at least definitive) election without the widespread dismantling of the postal service.

  

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343. "what did Dems do about this?"
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seriously, I'm asking. because the GOP publicly announced this as their election blueprint over the summer and I just remember online outrage and DeJoy skating through a hearing.

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350. "What do Dems do about anything?"
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_____________________________________

Let me guess, I can have "good day" now, right?

  

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354. "You see the amount of money Dems have raised"
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The Dem party is good regardless of the outcome.

As soon as they dismantled the machines at the post office Dems should’ve pushed for all voters to vote in person.

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345. "assuming Biden wins (please dear lord)..."
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his administration has to focus on this.

like, seriously, this should be one of the main focuses of his term - enfranchising voters.

do what you gotta do to reverse all of the shit Trump did to destroy the systems in place re: voting, do everything you can to make voting a national holiday (or at least let it be the first weekend in November or something - both Sat. and Sun.). do whatever you can to try to eliminate the electoral college (how we live in a place where it isn't "one person/one vote" is so nuts to me) determining the presidency.

this shouldn't even be a partisan issue. *IF* you're a "patriot" and believe in democracy, you shouldn't have any issue with making sure everyone who's eligible to vote is allowed to, and that their votes count regardless of party.

  

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348. "but it is lol..."
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>this shouldn't even be a partisan issue. *IF* you're a
>"patriot" and believe in democracy, you shouldn't have any
>issue with making sure everyone who's eligible to vote is
>allowed to, and that their votes count regardless of party.

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355. "well yes, because Repubs tend to be shit people..."
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in my experience.

i'm saying in theory.

  

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375. ""This is America"(c)Donald McKinley Glover Jr."
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________________________________________
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344. "Is this the time period where we're supposed to pretend that the lie of ..."
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Is this the time period where we're supposed to pretend that the lie of a global sex trafficking ring led by prominent Dems didn't play a huge part in shaping people's perceptions and actions?

America created then mainstreamed a conspiracy theory to global prominence and the only reason most of us stopped seeing it is because the social media companies went into CYA suppression mode. The followers didn't just simultaneously disappear and deprogram themselves.

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362. "Assuming (and hoping) Biden wins"
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I am somewhat worried how unhinged a Lame Duck Donald Trump will get. Gonna be a wild two months until January when he has to leave. I wonder what he'll do knowing he's going to be forced out of office. The fact the pandemic is literally getting worse right now isn't a good aspect to things as well.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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369. "Any and everything he can to save his own ass from prosecution"
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And hoard assets.

Fuck everyone/everything else.

Re: pandemic, he DGAF- he's immune now, thought you heard?!

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But hell, what do I know?

  

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363. "how much is still out there for the mail in?"
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I have hope in it but, don’t understand the legal issues that surrounds it.

  

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365. "Wisconsin is official for Joe"
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https://twitter.com/mattmfm/status/1324026497536004098?s=20
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Wisconsin Elections Commission Administrator says on
@NBCNews
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368. "Is that recount range?"
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371. "It seems so:"
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Short answer: yea.

It's within 1% and best believe Donny is going to get at it.

https://ballotpedia.org/Recount_laws_in_Wisconsin

Can a recount be requested?
Yes, the recount can be requested within three business days of the county canvass except for presidential election recounts, which must be requested on the first business day following the canvass. The margin required is 40 votes in a race with fewer than 4,000 votes or 1% in a race with more than 4,000 votes. No margin is required to request the recount of a ballot measure. The deadline for completion is within 13 days of the order for the recount.

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366. "Fox News Business is saying Biden has Wisconsin"
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and if Biden holds up in Michigan he doesn’t need PA (Thank God)

I don’t want to play myself tho.. lol

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377. "Trump is in panic mode"
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1324032541544927233

take a message

  

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389. "I literally LOLed at this reply:"
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YZY
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367. "Biden could actually win this thing and yet, still feels like an L"
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I know America has a bunch of shitty people but you would think they would want better after 4 years of this mess.

it’s like a good team barely beating n awful team.

We won but...

I’ll take it tho. Lawd we need a healing.

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372. "This is a big L "
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This was supposed to a statement election. An overwhelming repudiation of Trump. A repudiation of his minions in the senate.

But what we got was a good showing from Trump despite all the headwinds against him.

And on the senate, barely any movement even with hella money going to them. I mean, Susan Collins is going to win easily lol.

These results show that for most Americans, there wasn't anything wrong with the past few years.

Yeah this was a huge L.

  

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408. "yeah I'm scratching my head at the senate Ls"
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AZ? Thats it?


And it seems like Kelly helped Biden, not the other way around.


I thought Biden was supposed to help deliver down ticket?


I mean, I figured the Graham losing stuff was all wishes, but Collins fucking stomped her opponent.


A lot of focus on the Pres polls being off, so were a lot of these senate races. Like, big off.

  

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373. "naw a win is a win."
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if you win the superbowl it dont matter if you played like shit in it.

<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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376. "The trouble is with it being this close they could steal it in the "
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courts.

That's why a close "win" was always a scary initial outcome.

  

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383. "they gonna try but it wont work"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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391. "how's that?"
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But hell, what do I know?

  

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393. "you can feel them souring on that."
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even scott walker is calling wi for biden.

there really isnt anything for courts to overturn when biden is winning based on mail in votes that got in by election day.

the post election day extended deadlines via sos, state court, election board, etc were really the legal pathway they were keying in on.

  

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378. "yep, it's too close"
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democratic pockets in a sea of red

  

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502. "Don't be fooled by those maps, bro"
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that shit is misleading as hell. A lot of those big swaths of red actually represent a relatively small number of people while those "pockets" pf blue represent A LOT of people.
Colors on a map aren't representative.

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"You can't beat white people. You can only knock them out."

  

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379. "adults shouldn't be this naïve..."
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYOjWnS4cMY

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380. "and not just the last 4 years but the past 7-8 months"
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incredible how many Americans seem to be disregarding Covid entirely

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382. "We've got it. "
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Wisconsin is over. Michigan looks like it's over. Those two will do it alone (271/267!), but Pennsylvania is starting to look good and Georgia is still looking good, and should be in by the end of the day today.

Coming back to pollsters and people's weird opinions about poll aggregation, if this holds up the only bad calls from FiveThirtyEight will have been FL and NC (and NC still isn't out of the question for us either).


Yeah, the country needed a landslide, but that was never likely from the poll numbers themselves. Like in 2016, the error wasn't so much "the polls" as people's hopeful interpretations of those polls.

  

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388. "who knows how things would turn out if mail in votes werent sabotaged?"
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we could be talking about biden picking up the blue wall and flipping az, nc, and ga.

  

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399. "omg please stop typing "
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406. "Real talk. Please stfu and let me vent. "
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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416. "aw."
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that was a genuine aw too.

sometimes we all just need some time to vent.

this country is depressing.

  

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432. "RE: Biden could actually win this thing and yet, still feels like an L"
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The three tweets I liked the best this morning.

https://twitter.com/BobTheComrade/status/1324046226552057856?s=20

Joe Biden’s failure to demolish Trump, the most consistently disapproved of President in American history, is a great example of centrism enabling fascism.
By courting conservatives, disowning the left, and coming up short of a big win, Biden has ensured the survival of Trumpism.

https://twitter.com/peterdaou/status/1324055596698640386?s=20

#MitchMcConnell won.

#SusanCollins won.

#LindseyGraham won.

#Trump nearly won.

#Republicans clawed back House seats.

Anyone who gives the Democratic Party a pass for this abysmal performance is just enabling their failure.

https://twitter.com/reframing2020/status/1324054052192309248?s=20

I think Bernie would have destroyed Trump and we would have had the Senate.
They are endlessly bashing the idea of socialism as being why Biden lost ground on CNN/MSNBC and forgetting that the policies they label socialism have majority support among the needed demographics.

  

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506. "Its a major L. Im confident he'll win, but this campaign was a failure."
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"They used to call me Baby Luke....but now? The whole damn 2 Liiiive Crew."

  

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384. "florida needed more bernie to convert working class trump voters"
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according to the editor of one of the top 'progressive' online publications.

https://twitter.com/NathanJRobinson/status/1323814673372860416
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the political calculus of that part of our base is approaching parody.

  

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392. "oh nah... I think Florida reacts the worst to Bernie"
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Not only because he is weak in the south and with voters of color but because of the knee-jerk reaction to the word 'socialism' a lot of latinos have in FL.

  

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396. "of course. thats why its so funny lol."
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along with the fact that a lot of people on the left think you can convert racists with populist economic policy.

  

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397. "I starting typing the response before I read your note at the bottom"
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I agree, shit is not grounded in reality.

This mythical middle-class / working-class solidarity thing has been undermined for too long and too effectively, got to take a more realistic approach to how people vote emotionally and then pander your ass off.

  

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409. "yeah when people refer to fdr, unions, old blue collar dem strength"
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they dont include the part where a lot of the appeal was the left wing version of nativism, xenophobia, etc.

protecting american (white) jobs from immigrants, preserving the social safety net for white families, etc.

thats why for republicans/conservatives...it wasnt economic policy that peeled away white blue collar voters from dems. it was them saying 'if you get these things...then black/brown/etc people are gonna get them too'. republicans literally defeated universal healthcare in the new deal by saying it meant that black people would get universal healthcare too and would white people would have to share hospital rooms with them.

trump 2016 and beyond is the same playbook they been running.

  

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419. "This wasn't unique to FDR's base though:"
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>they dont include the part where a lot of the appeal was the
>left wing version of nativism, xenophobia, etc.

This was across the board - for both parties. The lineage of the Democratic Party is rooted in pro-slavery nativism and xenophobia.

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420. "yes there are white people in both parties vex lol."
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thats why i specifically indicated how one party used those appeals to white voters in the other party to perform a realignment.

im not sure why you said it was both parties...and not just fdr base...that was racist...then pointed out that the party of fdr had a history of being racist lol.

  

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427. "It's because the xenophobia in the Dem party wasn't just relegated"
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to FDR New Deal dems - it was endemic to the entire party. To try and pit that exclusively on FDR is simply inaccurate.


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439. "what? fdr new deal dems was *the* democratic party."
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fdr won over 40 states and almost 500 electoral votes if he wasnt narrowly beaten in pa.

his 'base' wasnt some segmented wing of the party. it *was* the party lol.

racism/xenophobia/nativism worked with white people across the entire board fsm. the reason why we also had japanese internment camps under fdr. and some of the new deal policies excluded black and mexican agricultural and domestic workers as a compromise with southern white dixiecrats. and so on.

  

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398. "yea - Florida never would be a strong state for Bernie"
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But let's not act like the Dem orthodoxy has made the correct electoral calls in the past 4 years. This was supposed to be a massive repudiation from the Democratic base *and* the Lincoln Project right - and thus far it's been a staggering bonanza of exit polling that defies the conventional wisdom, once again.

>Not only because he is weak in the south and with voters of
>color but because of the knee-jerk reaction to the word
>'socialism' a lot of latinos have in FL.

Sanders actually was very strong with voters of colors. He outperformed Biden demonstrably with the Latino/a vote, and also bested Biden with other POC demos (Arab/Asian/Native Americans) - while underperforming considerably with the over 40 Black vote (yet winning the young Black vote).




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414. "sanders did well with demographics that disproportionately skew young."
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like the median age of u.s. born hispanics in america is 28 and half the entire hispanic population is under 18 (part of the reason why the hispanic vote isnt a bigger factor in places like tx).

and bernies strength with hispanics was largely concentrated in a few dense population blue states. but biden beat him with hispanics in places like nc, fl, va, ga, etc.

also about 1/2 of the asian american population is in the most liberal bastions in the west. like 5 of the top 10 cities for asian population are in california alone. and the other half is almost entirely in ny lol.

not exactly a testament to a broad geographic appeal to poc for his brand of politics.

  

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426. "Exactly the demographic the Democrats should be winning"
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Again, the idea that you wouldn't want to actively recruit and embrace the broad, diverse youth support Bernie had is silly.

>and bernies strength with hispanics was largely concentrated
>in a few dense population blue states. but biden beat him
>with hispanics in places like nc, fl, va, ga, etc.

Nah it was pretty broad Latino support Bernie -- he resoundingly outperformed Biden with this demo - and not just in "dense population blue states" like California, where Sanders mopped the floor with the Latino vote - but he also ran the table in red states Iowa and Texas - and even in later races like Illinois and Michigan where the primary was already essentially over.

Sanders was very effective at resonating young Latino voters, understanding that the economy and health-care were issues at the top of their lists - and also understanding the seismic generational shift between younger Latinos and older Latinos (which also applied to the younger/older shift in general that played out across the board). People can act like a state like Florida will never change, the data shows otherwise - even with the Cuban FL population where attitudes are already changing among younger voters:

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/politics/fl-ne-cuban-american-poll-20190131-story.html

The U.S. Latino electorate has 32 million eligible voters this cycle - and we should've performed much better with them.





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437. "biden killed it with young poc tho."
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/El_x7olXIAUEAFt?format=jpg&name=large

they werent the issue.

  

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445. "I think he's high"
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No joke, he sounds like he's stoned. He thinks he's making all these deep points, and a lot of them are just obvious facts or things you have already said.

I think he got blazed this am. I don't blame him.

He's also working on his "Bernie would have won" draft too I'm sure...just in case.

  

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449. "honestly hes the one poster that consistently confuses me"
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as to the point he is trying to make.

some people are just flat out loud and dead ass wrong. and i can respect that lol.

but vex says shit where hes contesting you but not really disagreeing with you but tryna one up you by unintentionally reaffirming something you said but acting like its a rebuttal to something you said.

its weird lol.

  

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454. "hey! I missed you bro."
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Glad to see your troll game is still strong as ever.


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401. "these clown shows were so eager to jump on the early results too"
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the irony of "Tio Bernie" is fucking laughable.


Venezuelans and Cubans, to name a few, were never going to buy it

  

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417. "i dont get the reflexive impulse to dunk on candidates"
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who arent 'your own'. especially when the majority of the people in party picked them.

when they fail...thats a failure for you (and usually america) too. theres really no worth to an 'i told you so'.

  

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422. "shit, the boricuas there apparently didn't buy it either this election"
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415. "did Bloomberg run ads or nah?"
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Wasn't he going to carpet bomb Florida and TX?


Did that happen, or no?


His primary ads were on fucking point.

  

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428. "not sure. i dont think any of that is a substitute for ground game tho."
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a nice supplement sure.

but the dem party is made up of a lot of low propensity voters that respond better to that face to face interaction. and dems scaled that back this cycle for obvious reasons.

  

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385. "If you want to help cure mail-in ballots here's list opportunities to he..."
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in several states including NC, GA.

Ballots need to be cured by Friday. There are multiple shifts to choose from over today and tomorrow

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403. "Another opportunity through Fair Fight Action for GA (In-person)"
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Links to sign-up/training in the thread

https://twitter.com/fairfightaction/status/1324021295659601920?s=20

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A lot of you players ain't okay.

We would have been better off with an okaycivics board instead of an okayactivist board

  

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402. "What gets done if Biden wins and the Senate stays in GOP control?"
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What are things Biden could actually do?

  

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407. "wishful thinking perhaps..."
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but Biden is old and white, like most of the Senate, meaning they are more likely to "work with" him. so many of them have also worked with him, so they know him well.

what does that mean? i really have no idea. they could continue to be complete assholes, or they could be marginally reasonable.

i know one thing - they clearly feared Trump for some reasons I understand and some I don't. with him out of power, they may be somewhat more open to "meeting in the middle."

again, this is probably heavily on the wishful thinking side of things.

  

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425. "yeah mitch mcconnell aint working with shit."
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theyre gonna prevent any real economic recovery while letting the tax rate for the middle class increase every year (that was included in their tax bill).

theyre gonna prevent any real whole of government response to the pandemic.

theyre gonna blame the disastrous covid numbers and worsening economic meltdown solely on biden. and americans are too disinterested with being informed to actually go look at the facts.

then theyre gonna rout dems in the midterms under their new gerrymandered maps supercharged by a corrupt trump census count and a green light from the republican scotus supermajority.

and then 2024 theyre prolly gonna take unified control of the federal govt again with massive power in the states and possibly another supreme court seat vacancy held until a repub can fill it.

  

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431. "*hugs you*"
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i ain't doing that as a troll or cuz i'm saying your wrong.

i'm doing that cuz that shit was DARK and i need a hug too, lol.

i hope you're wrong on some or all levels but i know i'm giving conservatives too much credit too.

  

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435. "its all fucked up fam."
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you just have to look at how repubs act in testing lab states like nc and wi to see what theyre gonna in other states and on the federal level.

they are achieving most of their objectives by being anti-democratic and completely breaking the function of government then blaming it on democrats.

no reason to ever stop when people keep voting for that.

  

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467. "Yeah I’m feeling real depressed about this"
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Don’t get me wrong, we need Biden to win but I don’t see much if any of his agenda being passed at all. GOP is going to block everything, hope things get worse, blame it on Biden and then win in 2024.

  

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411. "reversal of Trump policies, covid stimulus, lgbtq legislation"
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and nothing for black people, per usual.

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Let me guess, I can have "good day" now, right?

  

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424. "Force Stephen Breyer to retire.. Pray Clarence Thomas dies..."
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...and nominate young judges in their 40s to replace them


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429. "he needs the senate for that."
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mitch aint confirming not a single judge and prolly aint confirming too many administration appointments either.

  

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433. "rescind executive orders."
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make *some* appointments via vacancy act like trump because they prolly wont get confirmed by a repub senate.

instead of installing his real cabinet he is gonna have to reshuffle/promote people that are already in our govt and have been senate confirmed previously.

zero dem agenda legislation passed.

zero.

senate repubs are gonna run roughshod with investigations into his admin.

hes basically gonna be a lame duck moral leader unless he can somehow get dems fired up to come out and take advantage of a 2022 midterm map. and dem voters dont have the best history of coming through in off year elections with a dem incumbent.

  

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440. "that was going to be my part 2 question"
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how will he get dems to come out to vote in 2022? the map on paper is favorable right? just in a numbers game of how many red vs blue seats are up for grabs.

i wish i had faith that the dems had a plan to at least flip the senate in 2022.

probably a bunch of government shutdown threats coming again right?

  

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444. "yeah the map is technically favorable to dems."
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the gop would be talking about running up the score in the senate if the shoe were on the other foot.

dems are prolly gonna be on the defensive tho.

covid is gonna be landmine for biden because the economy is already in a condition to worsen and a lockdown would make it worse in the short term (plus repub judges and the sc will prolly strike down much of any lockdown any way).

hopefully we get a vaccine with a robust roll out program and he gets a lot of political capital off of that (especially if it leads to an improved economy). thats gonna take time tho.

  

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404. "any data on how many GOP actually broke"
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for Biden?

I'm sure a little of it happened in the burbs or whatever, but definitely not to the level those Rahm Emmanuel types were fantasizing about.

Lincoln Project L O L


I read somewhere Philly turnout was about the same as in '16. Maybe, just maybe, Democrats should have spent *a little* more time talking to...democrats?


And how in the fuck has Trump consistently won on the economy???

"Soul of our nation" should have been

"10% unemployment and tax cuts for his rich friends"...well something more clever, but the economy is in shambles.


The Dems did not do a good job tying COVID to the economy.

  

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410. "Economy is in shambles because of the shut down"
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and his supporters believe we were too aggressive shutting down and blame Dems for it.

Whether true or not, this is what they believe.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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412. "sure but I'm not talking about his supporters"
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They will believe anything he says.


I guess I don't know the breakdown of how "independents" viewed the economy...but it shouldn't have even been close.


"The economy is objectively in shambles because Individual 1 wanted to pretend COVID didn't exist because it would make him look bad.

A real leader would have a better plan for testing, contact tracing, and economic stimulus, etc."

I don't know, I'm hungover too so I'm not doing my best work here...but you always hammer the economy when you can.

  

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413. "Yeah. The narrative should have been blaming them for the economic "
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impact of the pandemic. That if we’d handled this properly, the economy could have BEEN safely reopened.

  

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418. "economy is in shambles because of mishandling of the pandemic."
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like movie theaters are open in a lot places.

aint nobody going to them shits.


and also poor government response.

other nations worldwide locked down. some more strict than ours. and they didnt have the disastrous drop in gdp and rise in unemployment that we did. cuz they governed like they actually cared about their people.

  

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421. "All up to Philly and the absentee ballots being counted in PA"
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because all us from PA know that once you step outside of Philly's western city limit, you might as well be in West Virginia.

  

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423. "If there ever was a time we needed big government "
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And less people crying about the nanny state

  

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442. "its sad but the only time we get sweeping progressive policy"
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is following an economic disaster.

  

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507. "I'm thinking 0. "
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because more Repubs voted for Trump this time around.... SMH

  

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434. "is it safe to say without Covid Plump wins easily?"
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or you do you think it would be relatively the same?

i do think the "riots" helped him not bleed out.

  

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446. "I think COVID was quite beneficial to him"
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-He knew how deadly COVID would be

-He intentionally misrepresented the severity of it

-By taking a dismissive stance, and not doing a full blown shut down complete with mandates, he all but ensured that it would ravage the country.

-States took their own individual actions thus enabling him to blame those shutdowns, and the resulting economic downturn, on the Democrats.

So he changed the narrative from COVID being something to take very seriously, to COVID being no big deal at all vs the economy being a big deal.

And when people returned to work, he portrayed this as job growth.

This also manipulated the stock market, allowing the rich to get much richer as a result, he gets to tout himself as an economic genius, because his base consists of those who immediately and directly benefited from this gross manipulation, and those who were harmed by that manipulation, but still hate all the same people as their Great Leader, and are generally either too stupid or too blinded by their own common hatred for Black and brown skinned people, women, gays, a women's right to choose, poor people, etc, to see how they have been manipulated.

To summarize: He capitalized on the gullibility and zealous hero worship of his base, deliberately muted his response to the pandemic, in order to use it to further vilify democrats across the board as the root cause for the economic downturn, while propping himself up for the economic upticks that were

A. A semi-natural recovery in the case of jobs (with help from the lack of a second stimulus to extend unemployment benefits, and

B. Wealthy people buying low on the crashed stock market and reaping the gains that come when other wealthy people start buying.

In many ways, this was a perfect storm for him, because, yet again, it allowed him to play to every strength he has with his base.

Just my two cents.

  

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451. "great breakdown"
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do you think he actually gained support from this though, or just managed to hold the line?

  

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461. "This is only anecdotal but I definitely know people who flipped on econo..."
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My father among them. Never voted Red in a national election his entire life until this year when democrats got “so performative” with masks and “chose” to vilify police officers.


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473. "interesting. also defund the police was the worst slogan ever"
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people on here weren't/aren't trying to hear that though.

the whining about masks thing will never not be weird to me though


>his entire life until this year when democrats got “so
>performative” with masks and “chose” to vilify police
>officers.
>
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477. "I really don't understand how"
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there are people who eat up silly phrases like "worst slogan ever"

who aren't willing to play a few hands of poker and hand their money over to me.

it seems unfair that this level of gullibility exists without me profiting from it.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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485. "go back to twitter"
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488. "The world, as it is, allows us to see whatever world we want to see"
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Whether it's true or not, it's out there.

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495. "yeah, he got more and more heated when he couldn't start a GoFundMe for ..."
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Because Facebook and then GoFundMe kept deleting the pages because he kept using language like "Blue Lives Matter" and charging it up with allegations that it's unjust for these platforms to support funding for low-level criminals and drug dealers (which, uh, he himself sold a ton of weed and coke as a young adult...) but not good, ***Union Dues Paying Men of the State***.


And that's the other thing. He's always voted for whatever benefits unions and labor, he despises contract labor and any forms of business that cut wages to benefit employers and big businesses hiring laborers for dangerous work. He raised me to distrust corporations and have a diverse group of friends but here he is now, with this one issue, seemingly throwing all that out the window to fight for a group that doesn't need him to fight for them, all because he's friends with a bunch of them and plays poker/does motorcycle runs with them.


It's bonkers, man. I can reason out how it happened but still, it hurts.


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459. "Without Covid the economy would’ve prolly been enough for Trump"
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no matter what he would spin it but business was booming before Covid.

I don’t see how he loses since people really don’t kind his crazy ass tweets

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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476. "I think it didn't matter as much as people think"
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everything that's happened served to increase turnout...but not just among people voting against trump.



www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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436. "Angus King needs to have a conversation with Susan Collins,"
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about going independent and caucusing with Democrats. It's a long shot but I don't think it's out of the question. This kind of thing happens when the balance is close. And Angus King is already an example of it getting support in Maine.

Collins's brand, ridiculous as it seems, has always been about pretending to be non-partisan, and she hasn't seemed happy about being forced into the role of a Trump enabler, repeatedly breaking her promise not to confirm anti-choice SC justices, and having to claim (laughably) that Trump had "learned his lesson" from the impeachment.

She's probably not gonna run again in six years, and whether we take it seriously or not, *she* seems to care about her legacy, such as it is.

  

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438. "This is actually a pretty shrewd move..."
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If she helps the Dems control the Senate, she can take some credit for making things happen rather than sitting around while the government is gridlocked.

  

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441. "her brand is tease, so"
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i never hang much hope on her

  

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443. "bullshit. her votes show she happy as a pig in shit w/ Trump"
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and she hasn't seemed happy
>about being forced into the role of a Trump enabler,

<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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455. "is there a GOP senator that Biden can nominate"
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for some bullshit post and free up a spot?

  

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464. "Susan Collins? Haha the thing is the GOP senator would have to accept"
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Such a nomination and I don’t see that happening. It would also have to be a senator in a democratic governor since the governor appoint their replacement until a special election can fill the seat.

  

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483. "which are our options?"
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maybe jesus is listening?

  

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447. "*Tosses grenade* --- Bernard would've gotten rocked."
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450. "too soon...but might be a nice distraction"
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godspeed

  

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448. "dem senator gary peters pulled ahead in michigan."
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https://twitter.com/mpolikoff/status/1324050728936042497

any good news where we can get it.

we still need 2 flips.

  

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452. "from where?"
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>
>we still need 2 flips.

And does that include Kamala or no?

  

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458. "basically the 2 ga races and cal in nc."
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long shot bids.

and yeah i think thats for the tie with kamala.

  

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469. "I think we just need 2."
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We're currently at 47. It's down to 46 from the Doug Jones loss. But we got the flips in AZ and CO. So just 2 more would bring us to 50.

That's still a steep climb, though. The GA runoffs are gonna be all about 'packing the courts,' for better or for worse.

A year ago I think you and I crushed stone dreams around here pointing out how tough it'd be to retake the Senate even though Republicans were defending so many more seats. I'm kinda surprised (and saddened) to see how right we were after all that's happened.

  

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472. "Perdue is winning, Ossoff needs a miracle or something."
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Warnock on the other hand is beating that privileged bitch w/ a bat.

take a message

  

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484. "If we can get Perdue under 50% then there'll be a runoff there as well."
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And with all the remaining Dem votes everyone's counting on in GA, that's not out of the question.

Both of these runoffs would be tricky, though. I'm not optimistic about either one of them.

  

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588. "you're right. look at this"
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https://twitter.com/bluestein/status/1324360112190951424

take a message

  

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463. "Georgia runoff in January is our best chance to get one"
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Other than that I don’t see a second win. We will be stuck at 49 and just short of control.

  

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453. "If Trump won that 1 EV in Maine, that seems to put him at 269."
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Unless I'm mistaken.

ETA: I am mistaken. If Biden secures NV he will be at exactly 270 EVs. This is making me scared of possible faithless electors.

  

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457. "you had me scared"
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>Unless I'm mistaken.
>
>ETA: I am mistaken. If Biden secures NV he will be at exactly
>270 EVs.

then I felt better


This is making me scared of possible faithless
>electors.


then you had me scared again

  

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460. "A rogue elector might be the catalyst to finally end the EC"
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_____________________________________

Let me guess, I can have "good day" now, right?

  

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456. "georgia is getting tiiiiiiight."
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https://twitter.com/goldietaylor/status/1324052790088552452
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GA UPDATE: Biden continues to close the gap. Now down ~86,124 votes. There are 63,000 outstanding Fulton absentee ballots, which is about 27% of Georgia’s 236,000 uncounted absentee ballots-- the lion's share of those are in DeKalb, Gwinnett. ALL are Dem strongholds.
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470. "yeah but its Warnock vs that white bitch I'm tuning in to."
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I think War will win it.

I feel for Ossoff, Perdue is leading but anything can happen.


Dejoy needs to be in prison for voter suppression.

take a message

  

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482. "That race is going to a runoff in January "
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590. "its gonna be 2 than"
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https://twitter.com/bluestein/status/1324360112190951424

take a message

  

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462. "dems need to be screaming about the usps holdups"
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just as loudly as trump is screaming about his nonexistent bullshit.

i dont know what its gonna take for dems to wake up and engage in the messaging/narrative war. they have such a passive approach to information and public perception.

  

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465. "Absolutely. Our messaging (and branding) sucks so bad "
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466. "theyll never do it. its too unbecoming of them"
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to get down in the muck and mire and play politics for real.
they want a clean white glove victory on this.

<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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479. "Yep, when they go low, we just disappear and give up"
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474. "I gave up on the dems showing any testicular fortitude when"
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Cory Booker said, in relation to the RBG seat, that they would try to "appeal to the Republicans sense of decency."

If that's still where they are, they'll lose forever.

_____________________________________

Let me guess, I can have "good day" now, right?

  

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478. "This is a real convo that need to be had in the coming months / years"
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Especially with the more respected news sources effectively taken out to the equation for people who don't want to exist within the liberal news bubble

People can choose their reality on Twitter and Youtube, and the party can pick and choose when to echo plot points (using surrogates and stand-ins where necessary)

There is a centralized discipline in the Republican party that is lacking with the Dems. Pelosi said it once and the young progressives chafed, but the corporate / military-like hierarchy the repubs use seems to serve them well in Washington.

  

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480. "He's suing. I was waiting for this."
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https://twitter.com/NewsHour/status/1324088297296220162

take a message

  

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481. "Nobody is reporting any paperwork as having been filed."
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“There is no fate that cannot be surmounted by scorn.” -Albert Camus

  

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486. "CNN calls MI for Biden"
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------------------------------
For the record, my teams:
MLB: Mets / Soccer: PSG
NCAA BB: Arizona / NCAA FB: Michigan
NBA: Spurs / NFL: Jets

  

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493. "work em down JOE"
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494. "This is monstrous. With AZ in the bag, Biden just needs Nevada"
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and the clown is ousted.

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501. "Flip! Flip! Flip! (Now who they want??!’)Flip!! Flip!! Flip!!"
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Game Over.

  

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487. "trump savages storm counting facility in detroit"
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https://twitter.com/PattersonNBC/status/1324086177885003778

__________________________________________

I hope you live a life you’re proud of. If you find that you’re not, I hope you have the strength to start all over again.

— F. Scott Fitzgerald

  

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489. "they want to stop the count where Biden is...leading?"
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490. "i need the black voters in detroit to show up hip deep"
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take a message

  

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491. "hope the cops start swinging batons on them "
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492. "LMAO"
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I shouldn't laugh because it's sad and scary but

for real, #STOPTHECOUNT is where they're at?

  

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496. "pepper spray all these fucking karens in the eyes..."
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...fuck this


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511. "that one idiot is gonna come in here and say its lefties doing this"
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like the libs who tried to kidnap Big Gretch

  

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530. "In Detroit?"
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________________________________________
"Take the surprise out your voice Shaq."-The REAL CP3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2H5K-BUMS0

  

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497. "Biden would like to dedicate this song to Don "The Con" Trump"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrBcPMGUC_w

http://soundcloud.com/deemack1

  

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498. "RE: Biden would like to dedicate this song to Don "The Con" Trump"
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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrBcPMGUC_w
>
>

It ain’t real until JB can throw this on for him.

https://youtu.be/IoyvvEWHodk

  

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513. "Warren G second album"
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https://s.yimg.com/lo/api/res/1.2/y5XxKKlhff9jCPDvHn2J5g--~B/YXBwaWQ9eWlzZWFyY2g7Zmk9Zml0O2dlPTAwNjYwMDtncz0wMEEzMDA7aD00MDA7dz00MDA-/https://fanart.tv/fanart/music/85d7666c-d3ce-4e2c-8b1b-f20db7cdae4f/albumcover/take-a-look-over-your-shoulder-reality-4f6a122f08551.jpg.cf.jpg

  

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499. "Lol, AZ releasing ballot info like a new Kendrick album"
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...I'm from the era when A.I. was the answer, now they think ai is the answer - Marlon Craft

  

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500. "im getting nervous about it"
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whats up with that wrong percentage stuff?

wrap it up b! lol

  

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Reeq
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503. "a lotta countries aint lucky enough to oust demagogues after 1 election."
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i know its a low bar to clear. and there are still a lot of threats ahead for the long term.

but its a blessing we need to count for now.

some trumps came into power in western democracies and still havent been evicted. theyve only strengthened their grip on the country.

trumpism went up against anti-trumpism and anti-trumpism won...by however slim a margin.

citizens of some other countries may never see a victory like that in their lifetime.

  

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505. "Joe may not win GA, but he walked Trump down like a motherfucker"
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...I'm from the era when A.I. was the answer, now they think ai is the answer - Marlon Craft

  

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509. "Mans is just &quot;claiming&quot; victory in some states now lol"
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"Just because you say something doesn't make it true" is the true theme of the Trump presidency.

A lot of people are saying that I won!

https://twitter.com/frazierapproves/status/1324113616027734016?s=20

-------------------------------------------------
http://www.soundcloud.com/sectachrome

  

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510. "The twitter warning on the OG Trump tweet is the *chef's kiss*"
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512. "Rudy gotta just go lay low after this, right?"
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https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1324108208261210112?s=20

...I'm from the era when A.I. was the answer, now they think ai is the answer - Marlon Craft

  

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515. "The guy got tricked by Borat's daughter is really asking that question"
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Reeq
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516. "trump down to 300k margin in pa with 900k mail in ballots left to count."
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biden has been winning mail in ballots at a steady 78% rate so a biden win is a foregone conclusion.

  

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517. "At this rate Trump's only hope for hitting 270 is lots of diet and exerc..."
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518. "i wanna steal this "
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519. "me too, man"
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...I'm from the era when A.I. was the answer, now they think ai is the answer - Marlon Craft

  

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541. "its stolen"
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DJR
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520. "A+ posting"
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Reeq
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521. "nice."
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mista k5
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522. "💀"
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525. "good one"
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527. "Toasty!!!!"
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I hope you’re right too.

  

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537. "Somebody call Parcells, get this guy a try out"
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Wed Nov-04-20 08:05 PM by Amritsar

  

          

C/o - Tony Soprano

  

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Reeq
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523. "trump ga margin down to 57k with 162k mail in ballots left "
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mostly in urban counties.

https://twitter.com/jpeebles/status/1324128893687767042

  

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Reeq
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531. "trump now filing lawsuit in georgia to stop the count lol."
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https://twitter.com/MiamiHerald/status/1324138984054886402

  

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533. "Now 47k"
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_____________________________________

Let me guess, I can have "good day" now, right?

  

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Reeq
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538. "damn this is crazy."
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Reeq
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540. "now 38k with 120k votes out."
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biden might really pull off georgia.

looks like perdue could drop under 50% too...forcing another runoff.

  

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557. "now 18k with 90k still out."
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600. "12k"
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_____________________________________

Let me guess, I can have "good day" now, right?

  

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mista k5
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604. "12k with the 60k thats left to count?"
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542. "This is what I wanted last night. Just one state to flip so they stfu"
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one thing I noticed today is no Trump flags or trucks driving around up where I work.

All a sudden no one has flags or MAGA shit.

****************
TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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Reeq
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543. "my homie working in staten island said all the trump shit"
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magically disappeared.

i honestly think a lot of them knew what was coming cuz nobody really acted out yesterday.

  

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Reeq
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524. "trump campaign bails on wisconsin recount."
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https://twitter.com/PoliticusSarah/status/1324116349539463168

to be honest...they prolly cant afford it.

  

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528. "RE: trump campaign bails on wisconsin recount."
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>https://twitter.com/PoliticusSarah/status/1324116349539463168
>
>to be honest...they prolly cant afford it.

I don’t believe this one no matter how good it sounds

  

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539. "them niggas is broke. "
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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Oak27
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526. "https://i.imgur.com/wH3pbNU.png"
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https://i.imgur.com/wH3pbNU.png

  

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529. "I know "folks" are tight as hell watching this count in ATL "
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CNN is broadcasting from the counting room and it's nothing but black people.

I'm waiting for Guliani to claim that's it unfair

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534. "Lol...dude tried to ask ol girl a question and got shut down"
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...I'm from the era when A.I. was the answer, now they think ai is the answer - Marlon Craft

  

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535. "How AZ percentage reported go down??"
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...I'm from the era when A.I. was the answer, now they think ai is the answer - Marlon Craft

  

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552. "Trump: AZ and NV "keep counting" .....thats red flag fishy."
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536. "Trump campaign: Stop counting votes! (except in states we're behind in)""
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544. "The Trump Decision Tree:"
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I have a lead ---> Stop counting
I am losing ---> Keep counting
I lost ---> Recount
I won ---> No chicanery here

  

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545. "Rick Santorum is kind of a bitch"
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...I'm from the era when A.I. was the answer, now they think ai is the answer - Marlon Craft

  

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562. "Never forget"
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https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/05/rick-santorum-2016-dan-savage-google/

  

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571. "Lol...wtf!! That’s wild. Wilder that there was nothing he could do."
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...I'm from the era when A.I. was the answer, now they think ai is the answer - Marlon Craft

  

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584. "Van was kinda lowkey clowning him last night lol"
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598. "never forget his name was made slang for 'Booty Juice'"
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546. "The internet never fails, lol..."
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https://twitter.com/GoHawkz_27/status/1324166426802860033?s=20

...I'm from the era when A.I. was the answer, now they think ai is the answer - Marlon Craft

  

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547. "Trump: We need to stop counting votes"
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Judge: Why?
Trump: https://memes.getyarn.io/yarn-clip/85ddc1c7-e588-458c-a9ab-2aaec2fd82d5

  

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548. "Arizona coming back for Trump. Called too early"
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https://twitter.com/Nate_Cohn/status/1324173343071809537?s=19


"Tonight's vote dump in Maricopa was Trump+18, which confirms that the state's going to get a lot tighter. It's not very easy to say whether that's enough for Trump or not, but I'd think it's more than enough to preclude an Arizona call tonight"

  

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549. "I’m really getting nervous about Arizona now "
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550. "I wouldnt call that a comeback. He'd have to take nearly 60% of the rema..."
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"The world is before you and you need not take it or leave it as it was when you came in." - James Baldwin

  

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551. "more concerned with why Nevada has had ALL DAY and cant supply any info"
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554. "Yeah I don’t understand this. Nevada doesn’t even have a lot of peop..."
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555. "i'm guessing it's a public safety thing, assuming Biden wins NV."
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like they probably didn't wanna announce (which should give Biden the 270 assuming AZ doesn't flip back) at night where haters could go wild. wait until mofos are at work.

i'm completely guessing though because outside of what i said (admittedly a understandable but odd reason) i have no idea why they'd not have had final tallies by now.

  

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556. "I doubt it's that deep. They're probably just taking their time to "
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get it right.

  

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553. ""Liberty Bell City" gonna be the difference for PA."
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Which is why Trump kept talking shit about Philly a couple weeks ago.

He knew already.

  

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558. "https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1324314809043718146?s=21"
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https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1324314809043718146?s=21

Lmao

  

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575. "I think of this when I think of my friends who have been sh*t talking Bi..."
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since Day 1.

They have criticized his every decision and every move despite the fact it appears to be working.


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559. "Melania is so over this shyt, she ready to go"
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"c'mon lets get out of these ppl's house"-Melania :-D


https://twitter.com/Terrence_STR/status/1324163549338476544


i'm guessing. but i'm sure she voted for biden too.

take a message

  

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560. "Terrible optics "
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561. "i wonder which melania that is."
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563. "Probably the Secret Service Melania"
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Real Melania seems like she hasn't been around in a while.

  

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564. "Is Pelosi done? cuz she awfully quiet....too quiet."
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will the sharks do her in by replacing her w/ another candidate? or will she be reelected again?
do you think Hakeem Jefferies will betray her and go for her seat?

I know she sick of AOC, the reelected squad and plus newly elected Bush, Jones and Bowman- she gotta be shittin diarrhea right now and dry heeving.


take a message

  

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566. "She’s on that RGB. She ain’t leaving until she dies"
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but I def think it’s time for young energy to take over.

These Dems keep running the same plays over and over again.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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Reeq
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569. "she will be easily elected speaker in 2021 imo."
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she said she wouldnt run for speaker after 2022 (midterms).

most of the dems who lost in the house were the moderate/centrist ones in purple or red districts who ran on not supporting pelosi as speaker (max rose, collin peterson, etc). those were the people who tried to mount a challenge to her speakership. progressives largely fell in line.

so ironically her hand might be even stronger in 2021 than 2019 (even after a wave election). im just talking among the dem house caucus.

she isnt gonna have much trouble out of the progressive wing. theyre not the freedom caucus on the repub side looking to cause problems and gum up govt (even their own party).

plus what challenger are progressives gonna put up that wins support from house members who represent the wide geographic band of districts outside the more liberal states like ny(c), ca, etc? barbara lee?

there arent even any progressives in top dem leadership positions who are in line to step up. its all moderates like clyburn, hoyer, jeffries (who barbara lee failed to beat out), clark, bustos, etc.




  

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565. "I’m stressed over folks acting like Donald Trump can’t still win. "
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Legit stressed
He keeps hitting every single margin that he needs.

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570. "Yup. Just when I think it's done something decent comes in for Trump"
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Arizona is done, too much Biden vote left out there.
--6hours later: This latest batch is skewed towards Trump.

Nevada: It's close now, but all that remains is democratic Las Vegas
--6 hours later: The remaining vote are late mail-ins and they are skewing towards Trump.

https://media2.giphy.com/media/3oEjHCWdU7F4hkcudy/giphy.gif
Stuff just always seems to work out for him

I'm just glad that there seem to be multiple outs for Biden

  

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573. "pa seals the deal regardless."
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and the outstanding vote is overwhelmingly mail in ballots around philly where biden is winning over 70%.

the early vote disparity in pa was a lot more dramatic than other states because there wasnt any in-person vote and it was all mail ins (which trump and the state republican party discouraged their voters from doing).

  

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587. "Losing AZ would be a 22 point swing"
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And would mean that those remaining PA votes would HAVE to go Biden and consistently at that high percent.

Numbers often regress to the mean.

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597. "700k mail-in votes outstanding in PA, trump up by 135k"
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Biden been breaking like 70-80%/20%-30% on those mail-ins.

HIGH chance he over-takes.

  

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574. "Don't stress it's a done deal"
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n/m

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579. "It's not. This is a dumb take."
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580. "The wall around the WH makes me nervous"
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they are going to try and steal this shit

I need GA and PA to come thru and crush all this uncertainty

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581. "Nah you too scared"
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Trump gotta run the table. All the mail in votes gotta break towards Trump.

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586. "He doesn't need to run the table."
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"#facts"


          

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2H5K-BUMS0

  

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582. "#facts"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2H5K-BUMS0

  

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576. "I feel confident, but not popping bottles just yet"
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578. "Confident in what and why"
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Because if it's something that's unknowable to you and uncontrollable by you, your confidence is just wishful thinking.

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583. "In the amount of remaining ballots and the locations they’re coming fr..."
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Ie major cities


That’s my understanding anyway.

  

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585. "That's just wishful thinking then"
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611. "Based on historical voting patterns. "
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But okie dokie

  

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589. "until arizona is at 100% and stays biden im going to be on alert"
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i need to see NV and any of GA, NC or PA called for biden to let me relax a bit if AZ doesnt get projected for biden by more places.

  

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591. "EGGZACKLY"
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592. "its a wrap. just watch it play out"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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593. "."
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594. "Trump wouldn't be begging for us to stop counting mail in ballots"
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if it was a close race.


Perhaps you're cynical and mentally preparing yourself for the worst case scenario. We def going to need that cynicism when biden wins and these mofos start getting comfortable. For now just relax.

"They used to call me Baby Luke....but now? The whole damn 2 Liiiive Crew."

  

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595. "He's not a smart man and not surrounded by smart people"
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It's not about the count or lack of, it's about his idea of ruling and power assertion.

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567. "CNN with "BREAKING NEWS" and it be the same news from 10 hours ago"
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568. "classic Sportscenter move"
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its actually astonishing to me how much their election night coverage felt like the nfl draft in structure

<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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572. "breaking news...(insert state) still too close to call."
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so why dont yall wait til something happens then?

  

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577. "right I had to stop myself from watching that bs"
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596. "Kinda feels like GOP is half-assing this election theft"
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To be clear, it's a serious matter. But they really don't seem to have any systematic plan. That story about Jared Kushner calling around for "a Jim Baker type" the day *after* the election may have been the funniest moment of this entire election cycle. Though Pete Buttigieg asking a picketing worker on camera how long the strike fund could hold out is tough to beat.

In any case, pretty on-brand for Trump's people to have put no thought into this. Doesn't mean it can't work, but I expected more organized, external support.

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601. "While a lot more evil than GOPers of the past, they are also a lot dumbe..."
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Jared Kushner really think he is as skilled as tacticians and operatives of 20 years ago just because he now sits in their seat.

Trump is really like, just do what they did in 2000 and surprised it just doesn't...happen.

I've been meaning to go back and read how they stopped the vote in 2000 but I vaguely recall a heated court battle at this point already.

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605. "Didn’t Florida go on for a week, 3 recounts and his brother "
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was the governor so he had all types of help

If Trumps family was governors in all these states it would be a wrap. Maybe, they aren’t the smartest bunch.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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Reeq
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603. "the gop legal establishment varsity team is staying away from it."
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its basically just the usual trump lackeys and some astroturf facebook group loons.

  

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Walleye
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606. "Yeah, that's the conclusion I want to avoid..."
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... not because it's wrong but because it means the establishment is done with him and this is over. Makes sense though. He got them a huge tax cut, some severe wounds to the ACAZ, three new Scotus ghouls, and legions of horrifying chuds in judge positions.

He could obviously do more in a second term, but seems at least reasonable that McConnell might rather force Biden into four years of inaction and/or austerity and then run against the slow economic recovery on four years. Compared to spending a ton of political capital on four more years of Trump, seems preferable.

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Mynoriti
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607. "was thinking about this yesterday, that McConnell might prefer Biden"
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for the same reasons. Especially now that he doesn't have to worry about Trump fucking with his re-election, he can just get back to gridlock and pretending Biden is trying to destroy america with his socialist agenda. Simpler times.

>... not because it's wrong but because it means the
>establishment is done with him and this is over. Makes sense
>though. He got them a huge tax cut, some severe wounds to the
>ACAZ, three new Scotus ghouls, and legions of horrifying chuds
>in judge positions.
>
>He could obviously do more in a second term, but seems at
>least reasonable that McConnell might rather force Biden into
>four years of inaction and/or austerity and then run against
>the slow economic recovery on four years. Compared to spending
>a ton of political capital on four more years of Trump, seems
>preferable.

  

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599. "Georgia update...."
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So here’s the number of outstanding votes from the press conference Georgia just had...


https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-biden-election-results-11-05-20/h_533274b247d47b865f6bd0a28f4e0bbe

About 60,000 votes are being counted today in Georgia, election official Gabriel Sterling said in a press conference Thursday. Here's the breakdown provided:

Bryan County: 3,027
Burke County: 494
Chatham County: 17,157
Clayton County: 7,408
Cobb County: 700 approximately
Floyd County: 682
Forsythe County: 4,713
Fulton County: 11,200
Gwinnett County: 7,300
Harris County: 3,641
Lawrence County: 1,797
Putnam County: 1,552
Taylor County: 456
The counting process will continue today and into the evening if necessary, he added.

  

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608. "dunno where these numbers come from, but, encouraging i guess..."
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(i say i guess cuz i ain't getting excited until it's OFFICIAL official)

https://twitter.com/DrDenaGrayson/status/1324391760487993345/photo/1

  

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602. "So Stacy Abrams might be responsible for saving the entire country. "
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https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1324382400814698496


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

  

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lsymone
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609. "the devil works hard, but S.Abrams works even harder"
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if they win, they better give ol girl a leadership position.

take a message

  

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612. "Biden really needs to be like, "~You Can Have Whatever you like~""
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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

  

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615. "lol"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2H5K-BUMS0

  

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allStah
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610. "You guys have no rules in GD"
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In sports, once a thread hits 300, we create a new thread.

This thread is near 600...lol..processing away your phone’s battery life.

ALL HAIL THE KING of LOSING: LEBRON
Bulls | Bears | White Sox | Yankees | Notre Dame | Illinois | Chelsea | Real Madrid

  

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614. "Sure we do. Fuck BShelly"
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I think that’s true on both boards.

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617. "lol"
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"They used to call me Baby Luke....but now? The whole damn 2 Liiiive Crew."

  

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lsymone
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619. "lol"
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take a message

  

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621. "lol"
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It's plenty of money to be made
from Candler Road to Bankhead
It's plenty of room to get paid
for those that ain't scared

  

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ThaTruth
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613. "come on Georgia!:"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kH_EZF0XqM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2H5K-BUMS0

  

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lsymone
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620. "he's losing whats left of any sanity"
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https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/1324407108167782401/photo/1


and his supporters swarming in with guns

take a message

  

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Dstl1
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616. "Lol...this Clark County, NV dude is spicy..."
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dude ain’t here for none of the bullshit.

...I'm from the era when A.I. was the answer, now they think ai is the answer - Marlon Craft

  

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Amritsar
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618. "I feel for the guy "
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Took the job having no idea that his county would be this important

  

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622. "Dude is a complete weirdo"
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...I'm from the era when A.I. was the answer, now they think ai is the answer - Marlon Craft

  

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