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"Is THIS Him? Is this the illest nigga in Nebraska? Is you 'bout it' bout..."


  

          

The first tweet I saw

https://twitter.com/jeffzeleny/status/1321291021146357767

President Trump took off in Air Force One 1 hr 20 minutes ago, but thousands of his supporters remain stranded on a dark road outside the rally. “We need at least 30 more buses,” an Omaha police officer just said, shaking his head at the chaotic cluster that is unfolding.

What I woke up to.

https://twitter.com/jeffreyguterman/status/1321420067255574529?s=21

The Trump campaign provided bus transportation to the rally in Omaha, then left thousands stranded in the freezing cold after the rally, at least 7 were reportedly hospitalized


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I don't like that shit
Oct 28th 2020
1
Actually on second thought, yea I do.
Oct 28th 2020
2
bout to...bout to drop...drop a dime on em
Oct 28th 2020
13
Great scene in a movie that is full of great scenes
Oct 28th 2020
16
      yep lol
Oct 28th 2020
18
The jokes write themselves here
Oct 28th 2020
3
the krassensteins were banned from twitter because they're scammers
Oct 28th 2020
7
What happened? Did they book them one way busses?
Oct 28th 2020
4
It appears that way. Or just very disorganized
Oct 28th 2020
5
It’s always easier to get to an event
Oct 28th 2020
6
oh my god this just brought back some memories
Oct 28th 2020
9
they prolly didn't pay for the later buses
Oct 28th 2020
8
Looks as if they didn’t coordinate shuttle service.
Oct 28th 2020
10
Bus company wasn’t trying to transport those COVID patients back
Oct 28th 2020
24
if you willingly go to a rally in freezing temps in a pandemic....
Oct 28th 2020
11
Will be funny and sad at the same time
Oct 28th 2020
12
I feel bad for the elderly that were there, but the rest. smh
Oct 28th 2020
14
Each one, teach one
Oct 28th 2020
17
      Oh definitely
Oct 28th 2020
26
Trump could've at least provided beer, weed and bands
Oct 28th 2020
15
Why is local taxpayer money being spent to hospitalize them?
Oct 28th 2020
19
smh, all of them will still probably vote for him
Oct 28th 2020
20
I rolls DOLO, from state to state...ha ha!!!
Oct 28th 2020
21
Somewhat related...anybody ever lost their car at the airport?
Oct 28th 2020
22
lmao no. but I'm kind of an organized traveler b/c I'm forgetful
Oct 28th 2020
25
SIRI saves all...
Oct 28th 2020
27
I don't travel that much but if I did I would definitely have to develop...
Oct 28th 2020
29
I take a picture of my car and two or three perspective shots
Oct 28th 2020
31
      yep take pick of the Lot #, Row# and space w/my car in it
Oct 28th 2020
33
Eh. He's just doing his job as the president they deserve.
Oct 28th 2020
23
From someone who lives here, this didn't change anything
Oct 28th 2020
28
Bad things happened to shitty people. Anything else is a bonus
Oct 28th 2020
30
It's more a living analogy for how this group of crooks will leave
Oct 28th 2020
32
RE: From someone who lives here, this didn't change anything
Oct 29th 2020
35
Biden speaks on it
Oct 28th 2020
34
he left his supporters stranded in the cold *again*.
Oct 31st 2020
36

Adwhizz
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1. "I don't like that shit"
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*Intensely eats banana*


R.I.P. Loud But Wrong Guy
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2. "Actually on second thought, yea I do."
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R.I.P. Loud But Wrong Guy
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13. "bout to...bout to drop...drop a dime on em"
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16. "Great scene in a movie that is full of great scenes"
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18. "yep lol"
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3. "The jokes write themselves here "
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But boy they’re going IN on Twitter lol

https://twitter.com/hkrassenstein/status/1321419686525964289?s=21

https://twitter.com/justhere4tea2/status/1321349089792040960?s=21

  

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7. "the krassensteins were banned from twitter because they're scammers"
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the "krassenstein wife" personality is just another facade

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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4. "What happened? Did they book them one way busses?"
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Wed Oct-28-20 08:25 AM by PimpTrickGangstaClik

          

Article says people were walking 4 miles back to the parking lot

  

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5. "It appears that way. Or just very disorganized "
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6. "It’s always easier to get to an event"
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than it is to leave an event.

I’m sure it was brick cold and you arrive early af for the party but leaving when it’s freezing cold? Every man and woman for themselves.

I’m not one bit surprised the elderly were left out there to freeze. That’s some typical GOP shit.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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9. "oh my god this just brought back some memories"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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8. "they prolly didn't pay for the later buses"
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it happened in baltimore, they didn't have buses because the campaign never paid. they're out of money

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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10. "Looks as if they didn’t coordinate shuttle service. "
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Shuttle drivers probably called out too.
Like who is willing to shuttle that many randos that just purposeful gathered in the thousands, without masks, or distancing.

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24. "Bus company wasn’t trying to transport those COVID patients back"
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Prolly like “I’ll drops yalls off but I ain’t picking yalls up after that super-spreader shindig”

  

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11. "if you willingly go to a rally in freezing temps in a pandemic...."
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peaceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

  

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12. "Will be funny and sad at the same time"
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if those folks will still vote for the orange clown.

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14. "I feel bad for the elderly that were there, but the rest. smh"
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I doubt they even saw the irony of this orange messiah

If a fat guy falls in the woods and there is no one around to see it, do the trees laugh?

  

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17. "Each one, teach one"
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Acting like the olds aren't the architect to this shit.

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26. "Oh definitely"
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I hope it was a lesson learned.

If a fat guy falls in the woods and there is no one around to see it, do the trees laugh?

  

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15. "Trump could've at least provided beer, weed and bands"
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Lit a bonfire. Rally afterparty would've been legendary.



lol. Repubs look like they don't even like music tho.

  

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19. "Why is local taxpayer money being spent to hospitalize them?"
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Chances are none of then wore maaks or latex gloves. Tell these losers to get off the government's teet and pull themselves up by the bootsraps. These welfare queens just worsened the pandemic with their inhumane asses.

No empathy for white misery (c) BDot

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20. "smh, all of them will still probably vote for him"
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21. "I rolls DOLO, from state to state...ha ha!!!"
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22. "Somewhat related...anybody ever lost their car at the airport?"
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Related because an article was talking about people wandering around not being able to find their cars among the multiple lots.

Me: Flight got in in the evening. It's dark out. I'm dead tired.
Get outside by the shuttle bus stop and go into my bag to find my little shuttle reminder ticket. Can't find it.

And I've been gone for a week so I have no clue where my car is. All I know is it's in one of two of the gigantic long term lots.

I get on a bus and hope something triggers my mind. It doesn't.

On my 5th bus trip (smh) I finally get some deja vu. So I hop out at a stop and walk row to row pushing the panic button. After about 30 minutes of walking I finally found it.

Come to find out later that you can call some airport staff to help you out with this.
I thought I was on my own! Embarrassment probably would have prevented me from calling anyways lol

  

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25. "lmao no. but I'm kind of an organized traveler b/c I'm forgetful"
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I always put my ticket in the same place

this reminds me though, I had the same shuttle driver for like 3-4 trips in a row once. He was hella nice (minus giving me some pamhplet about women's periods????) I hope he's doing okay...

  

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27. "SIRI saves all..."
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Being able to just ask your phone where your car is parked has been a lifesaver

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29. "I don't travel that much but if I did I would definitely have to develop..."
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some sort of system even if it was nothing more that making a note on my phone or putting it in my calendar.

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31. "I take a picture of my car and two or three perspective shots "
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Then text it to myself.

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33. "yep take pick of the Lot #, Row# and space w/my car in it"
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23. "Eh. He's just doing his job as the president they deserve."
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-Sig-

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28. "From someone who lives here, this didn't change anything"
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On every local news outlet's coverage, nearly every comment from a Red Vote is some version of "why are you blaming Trump for Omaha's mistakes", "Trump doesn't own our broken public transit system (maybe he should!!)", "they knew it was cold and they chose patriotism", "yeah well where was social distancing when BLM was in our streets?", "they are adults they can take care of themselves it's not Trump's responsibility to treat grown ups like 8 year olds and hold their hands all the way home" etc. etc.


If that's the local response, including from people who attended the event (it wasn't that bad, if you weren't wearing a coat and hat that's your fault, this is Nebraska after all, the event itself was amazing, and if you weren't patient it's only a 4 mile walk to the parking lot!) I can only assume the national response to this is a lot of Democrats going "see?! see?!" and a lot of Republicans going "wow, Omaha sure wasn't prepared for the massive numbers of a Trump rally"


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30. "Bad things happened to shitty people. Anything else is a bonus"
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32. "It's more a living analogy for how this group of crooks will leave"
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their supporters stranded and in trouble long after they are gone.

These people can rationalize and justify all they want but on the national stage, it's kind of emblematic of this administration.

Relevant op-ed:
Some Trump Supporters Might Be Relieved If He Loses

They may even still vote for him, but they are under no illusions about his presidency.

By Eve Fairbanks

Ms. Fairbanks has contributed articles to The New Republic, The Washington Post and other publications.

Oct. 28, 2020

ImageA Trump supporter arriving at a rally in Lancaster, Pa., on Monday.
A Trump supporter arriving at a rally in Lancaster, Pa., on Monday.Credit...Hannah Mckay/Reuters

The morning after President Trump announced his coronavirus diagnosis, a relative who supports him texted me. “OMG Trump,” she wrote. “It’s the end.”

My relative was adamant that Mr. Trump’s bid for a second term was finished. So adamant, actually, that it sounded as if she wanted it to be over.

I noticed a similar attitude of resignation, even relief, from Trump supporters I follow on social media. They expressed strangely little anxiety that Mr. Trump would get very sick or die. Compassion for his suffering, yes. Anger at Democrats’ schadenfreude, yes. But no fear he would be swept off the political stage. My relative mentioned she was listening to Rush Limbaugh’s radio show. The gist of the segment, she said, was that “love him or hate him, Trump was larger than life.”

She made Mr. Limbaugh’s monologue sound like a eulogy, and I tuned in just in time for a caller to tell the pro-Trump host: “I would have thought you were eulogizing the president.” You were talking about him, the caller continued, “like he was in the past tense.”

“Is that right?” Mr. Limbaugh replied. “That’s fascinating.”

I grew up in a conservative social circle, and I talk weekly with friends and family who voted for Mr. Trump. His approval rating has come in consistently around 40 percent, which leads many to conclude that Americans who like him support him staunchly. But I’ve come to believe that some people who publicly support the president don’t fully want him to win. They have to put up a fight for their sense of dignity. But even those who definitely plan to vote for him again privately admit ambivalence or even a wish that he could be magically swept out of the White House without a straightforward ballot-box defeat.

Commentators focus on a category they call “shy Trump voters.” These are voters who supposedly support Mr. Trump but won’t acknowledge it publicly. But I think there’s another category developing under the radar: “Shy Trump doubters.”

These are public Trump fans who, in private, acknowledge that his tweets are humiliating, his crowing about his victories is tasteless, his policy flip-flops are dispiriting and some of his statements are hurtful and damaging. They won’t say they’re tired of him to a pollster. It can be as embarrassing to admit you liked Mr. Trump and now fear him as it was to admit you were attracted to him in the first place. Mr. Trump’s critics portray his supporters as fools, and to say you only now realized he has problems seems to concede the point.

Trump ambivalence goes back to 2016. The morning after his victory, a friend who voted for him sent me an anxious Facebook message: “This is going to be weird.” He had wanted the election to be tight to serve as a rebuke to Hillary Clinton and to supporters who preened about her inevitability. But my friend had believed the polls. He didn’t actually like Mr. Trump. His vote was a protest.

My relative was more upset. She called me near tears. “What’s going to happen to your health care?” she asked. (I rely on the Affordable Care Act.) She never thought Mr. Trump would occupy the White House. Her vote was a form of trolling.
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She might admit this sounds juvenile, but she felt Democrats deserved it. In her view, the American left had long denied being moralistic while acting relentlessly moralizing. Early in 2016, yard signs sprung up in her majority-Democratic neighborhood: “Hate Has No Home Here” and “In This House, We Believe No Human Is Illegal, Love Is Love, and Science Is Real.” They implied that, if you didn’t put up such a sign, you were a monster and your home was filled with hatred, or if you questioned whether paper straws made a serious difference to the environment you “didn’t believe in science.”

Democrats seemed to display an “extreme moral vehemence” matched with a vehement denial that they were intolerant. “I thought there were a lot of people going around saying things they didn’t really believe. They didn’t seem to feel any contradiction between their own conspicuous consumption and their leftism.” Her perception was that they frequently demanded apologies from conservatives, but “the apologies never did those people any good.” President Bill Clinton was a prime example of this double standard; he represented a party that insisted it — and only it — supported women’s empowerment while he preyed on a female intern.

Not long into the Trump presidency, though, my relative began to talk about what would happen if he were “driven out of office.” Other Trump-supporting friends used this phrasing, too, and I began to wonder if it was a sublimated yearning. It would accomplish two things: first, make Mr. Trump a martyr to leftist intolerance, and second, get him out of office.

Their perception of Mr. Trump — crude, immodest and uncontrolled — had always been far closer to the Democrats’ portrayal than Democrats seemed to understand; during his campaign, they found it funny when people bent over backward to prove he was vulgar. Trump fans knew that — it was the point. His crudeness drove Democrats crazy and, in these voters’ view, revealed their true colors, driving them into a moralistic frenzy over “norms” and “decency.”

Mr. Trump’s shtick became less satisfying when he was president. My relative found his demonizing of Baltimore appalling and confessed she’d had to stop looking at his tweets. “Reagan was very genteel,” another pro-Trump friend complained to me — very much unlike Mr. Trump.

But how do you admit you used your ballot — that sacred thing in a democracy — as a weapon to prod your adversaries?

Many Americans who oppose Trump have spent the past four years asking, “How could so many of my countrymen love this man so much?” The answer may be simpler than we expect: a lot of them don’t.

Perhaps it is actually disturbing to consider that Trump fans’ intense public enthusiasm may be a front, because that would mean a proportion of them had a wish to throw the country into chaos. They don’t think America looks good right now, either. They think it looks bad, and they possessed — and probably still possess — such anger and cynicism about American politics that they risked a conflagration.

It’s worth listening for shy doubt about Trump, though, because it still provides an opening. There might be more agreement right now than we realize. That doesn’t mean all or even most shy Trump doubters will abandon him at the ballot box — I suspect most won’t.

But it is something in an era in which we believe people with different politics live in separate realities. There may be one dominant reality, and it’s one in which Mr. Trump, as president, has been a misfortune.

Eve Fairbanks has contributed to The New Republic, The Washington Post and other publications and is working on a book about South Africa.

  

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35. "RE: From someone who lives here, this didn't change anything"
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>On every local news outlet's coverage, nearly every comment
>from a Red Vote is some version of "why are you blaming Trump
>for Omaha's mistakes", "Trump doesn't own our broken public
>transit system (maybe he should!!)", "they knew it was cold
>and they chose patriotism", "yeah well where was social
>distancing when BLM was in our streets?", "they are adults
>they can take care of themselves it's not Trump's
>responsibility to treat grown ups like 8 year olds and hold
>their hands all the way home" etc. etc.
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>If that's the local response, including from people who
>attended the event (it wasn't that bad, if you weren't wearing
>a coat and hat that's your fault, this is Nebraska after all,
>the event itself was amazing, and if you weren't patient it's
>only a 4 mile walk to the parking lot!) I can only assume the
>national response to this is a lot of Democrats going "see?!
>see?!" and a lot of Republicans going "wow, Omaha sure wasn't
>prepared for the massive numbers of a Trump rally"
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yup its not that surprising after seeing what his supporters are like and the fact that its so solidly red here. his supporters aren't budging for shit

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34. "Biden speaks on it"
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On Wednesday afternoon, Biden lamented that the rally attendees, “including older Americans and children, were stranded in sub-zero freezing temperatures for hours,” adding that “it … captures President Trump’s whole approach in this crisis.”

“He makes a lot of big pronouncements, but they don’t hold up. He gets his photo op and then gets out. He leaves everyone else to suffer the consequence of his failure to make a responsible plan,” Biden said. “It seems like he just doesn’t care much about it.”

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36. "he left his supporters stranded in the cold *again*."
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https://twitter.com/DJJudd/status/1322688676170735616

  

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