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Republicans are vile. This isn't up for debate. But democrats have been complicit and more concerned with political theatre than actual progress. Hugging Lindsey Graham and whatnot. We should be able to discuss their weaknesses from a strategic point of view without theatrics and being overly defensive. They're way too comfortable with having our votes without really fighting for us. 60+ years. Home ownership, unemployment rates, school funding in black neighborhoods have either dropped or stayed stagnant.
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>Yeah, that is the problem with holding office in America is
>that you are beholden to interests that are often
>contradictory or in direct conflict. Moderates and
>conservatives vote with more regularity than young
>progressives so...
Yet an overwhelming majority or voters that were surveyed supported M4A and UBI. So if the issue is progressives not voting, fine, but these so called "progressive" policies are supported by people who do vote.
Another thing is, if republicans are drastically moving more right every year, then the definition of "moderate" is slowly and surely becoming more right. You dont fight fascism with centrism. Sooner or later the people in power need to develop actual principles instead of flailing their arms when they dont have the trust of the people.
Why are democrats in such a vulnerable position with black voters? Whats lacking? 60+ years.
Also, administrations are typically
>comprised of both Democrats and Republicans. Plus, if the
>Trumps can be trusted to listen to Ice Cube. John Kasich
>shouldn't really be some kind of a deal breaker should he?
Noone's saying Trump's team is trustworthy. No one. Ice Cube made a PSA. Both teams responded, they both bullshitted Cube but Trump's team made a public statement for clout. Framing it as Cube seeking the trump administration is reckless.
If roe vs wade is "on the ballot," why is an avid anti-abortion advocate being considered by Biden? Why wouldn't Kasich be a red flag here? Is the administration also courting leftists to balance things out or...? Is Biden truly "reaching across the aisle" when its mostly moderate/hard core conservatives on his team when he himself is a moderate?
We sit here and lose our minds when celebrities even look at a republican, but when actual people in power are actively working with them its nothing but excuses and "coalition building."
You don't see the pattern here of people being afraid of holding democrats accountable? Voting is our only bargaining tool because, yknow...lack of power, so wouldn't it be wise to dangle the carrot a little? 60+ years.
>Now, do I want him in the cabinet? Nope. But 1. consider he
>alternative. 2. According to your logic, Republicans can be
>trusted (possibly moreso than Biden himself) so NBD, right?
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Projecting. Never said this. Never will say this.
>Biden's plan is better than decent. It's good, really good.
>Full stop. So are his other plans all of which, should they be
>enacted (will address below. but weird how no one talks about
>the Senate here), would have profound positive impacts for
>Black people.
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While countless cities in america had anti police brutality demonstrations Joe Biden said verbatim he wants to give *more* funding to police. Those are his words.
He has some good plans, and some downright awful ones. Why is hard to tell the truth? What are we gaining?
>Here's the thing I said in the other post: Trump is willfully
>and purposefully letting Americans die of a preventable
>pandemic. He's letting Black and brown people die in
>unparalleled numbers. Just two weeks ago they rolled back the
>Fair Housing Act (After meeting with Ice Cube). They continue
>to rollback environmental protections. They are actively
>antagonistic to the American people and to Black people in
>particular and they are setting to stay in the White House
>beyond 2024.
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>You think an administration that actively wants to turn
>America into a white-ethnostate is going to honor anything?
>You think an administration that is actively letting Black
>people die of a pandemic is going to honor black people? The
>same one that is about to strip health insurance? The same one
>that appointed 200 judges every single one of them white?
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>Fam, these don't even honor their promises or pay their debts
>to other fucking white people.
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>Bruh, we're discussing this in a post talking about Jared
>Kushner just went on Fox News and said his FIL can't want
>Black folks to succeed more than Black folks. Like, what are
>we even talking about?!
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*We* aren't talking about anything. You're projecting and putting words in my mouth instead of paying attention. I dont support trump at all and dont expect anything from him. We all agree republicans are evil, but if we can't rely on democrats to do the right thing because they're playing softball with republicans...then whats really good?
We should be able to criticize these people who live off taxpayers and hold high positions, way more than we criticize fucking rappers.
>They have waged a multi-front campaign trying to keep Black
>people from voting but they are gonna do right by Black people
>after the election?! I feel like I'm taking fucking crazy
>pills.
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You are. Election years are stressful. You're probably fatigued and can't properly engage. Not even firing shots. I emphasize.
>Ask the German Jews of 1933 who thought the Nazis wouldn't and
>couldn't come for them. Spoiler alert: They got the same thing
>as everybody else.
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>Think of it this way: "When you vote, you are choosing an
>opponent. Would you rather push a centrist or push a fascist?"
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>Biden will need to be pushed to do the right thing. Most
>politicians do. But he can. Trump cannot. At best, you can try
>to curry favor but that marker is only good until it comes due
>and it always comes due.
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Im voting for Biden regardless. My biggest concern is avoiding the complacency of the Obama administration. To this day people refuse to be honest about who and what he was. A conservative. Occupy wall street, BLM, mass deportations, all under his administration. Who did he side with?
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>I'm not asking people to dismiss criticism. There is AMPLE
>reason to be pissed. There is AMPLE reason to be critical. My
>issue isn't with Ice Cube going off the reservation. It's with
>his utter inability to understand the situation. The Trump
>team saw him as another name the blacks know that they could
>use to potentially wedge some black male voters and keep them
>from voting and shift the narrative so people are discussing
>Ice Cube instead of everything else. And he got NOTHING out of
>it. He got a seat at the table in at a dinner party hosted by
>cannibals. Bully for him.
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>I'm not mad at Ice Cube for wanting to do something for our
>people. I'm mad that he made a major tactical failure driven
>by a lack of political acumen.
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So in other words, Cube exposed a major weak spot in the democratic party. We shouldnt be afraid of "splitting the black vote" every election. We shouldn't be worried about the 100 million+ non voters every election. This apathy is a byproduct of the complacent politicians that don't know how to connect with the people.
>So, yes, "the system" is fucked. Yes, there is enough blame
>and criticism to go around the earth twice. But to the Black
>folk that think they are not going to suffer more under
>capital-letter White Supremacist autocracy than in a
>lower-case white supremacist democracy, then, I don't know
>what to tell them.
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I dont tell them nothing except "do your research, and vote down ballot"
>Y'all think the crime bill was bad? Look alive, because what's
>coming down the pipe is going to make the crime bill look like
>the Civil Rights Act and they are working on ensuring there is
>no recourse by which to change it.
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>People want to lay it at the feet of Ginsburg, Obama, and
>every Democrat they can but fail to ignore that the right has
>been waging an all-out war on this country and the government
>(which has been non-functioning) for most of their adult
>lives. These same people do this from the sidelines pretending
>to be above it all. When really they want to assign blame for
>their unwillingness to participate and as an outlet for their
>own political impotence.
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Once again, if we all know that republicans are terrible, why dont the democrats match the energy? They play softball with conservatives but will waste time and energy forcing green party candidates off the ballot and sabotaging progressives. They dont have half the aggression for republicans that you have and that should concern you.
*I would like to reiterate i am voting for fuckboy Biden. I dont want none of you crying under my replies. You're arguing with yourself.
"They used to call me Baby Luke....but now? The whole damn 2 Liiiive Crew."
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