TRUMP: This thing is a killer if it gets you. If you're the wrong person, you don't have a chance. WOODWARD: Yes, yes, exactly. TRUMP: So this rips you apart. WOODWARD: This is a scourge. And-- TRUMP: It is the plague.
1. "When people talk about "Trump Derangement" syndrome" In response to Reply # 0
What is deranged is the fact that the President of the United States knowingly lied (on tape) to the American people about a disease that has disproportionately killed Black/Brown people and it gets crickets because of how much he and his administration has been able to re-shape norms.
They overwhelm people w/ crimes and scandal and they can't keep up and come to just accept it as 'well, yeah of course he did.'
That's the literal definition of derangement.
This has been the game all along. Inundate and Inure.
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A lot of you players ain't okay.
We would have been better off with an okaycivics board instead of an okayactivist board
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79560 posts
Tue Sep-15-20 09:48 AM
3. "“I can kill 200K Americans and not lose one vote” " In response to Reply # 0
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
7. ""Will this help or hurt his re-election" is what you're saying" In response to Reply # 6 Tue Sep-15-20 10:17 AM by MEAT
And the degree that people jump to that point, without evaluating things from their own lens ... it completely warps reality.
Rather than people chiming in on what they think or feel about something, they pontificate like pundits about what masses of people will do in a period of time from now.
Like I have zero clue about how PimpTrickGangstaClik feels about this revelation. But I do know that you're concerned with how other people won't feel about this. And I believe that you have motivations and concerns outside of other people.
------ “There is no fate that cannot be surmounted by scorn.” -Albert Camus
14. "Man you didn't specify what this post was about" In response to Reply # 12
All you did was post a quote. If you want to steer the discussion a certain way, then do that. Ask those questions. Don't leave it open then jump on people for going a direction you don't want.
I posted what I want to discuss related to the topic.
I don't want to discuss that other stuff, because I already got that figured out for myself. I don't get any value out of posting "Trump is a bad man" on OKP
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79560 posts
Tue Sep-15-20 05:38 PM
19. "No shade but this just sounds weird" In response to Reply # 12
You want people who have bashed Trump for 4 years to bash him some more before discussing if this will impact the election?
Do you know where you are?
You’re preaching to the choir.
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
21. "I think it sounds weirder to depersonalize everything " In response to Reply # 19
Like take the NFL boycott issue. Everytime something pops up you do some version of “ratings” still up. And there’s many of us on here that don’t fuck with the league anymore. But instead of that being a point of conversation you point to the people that aren’t the people you’re interacting with on the message board. Meanwhile we’re on season 3? of no fantasy league.
And it’s the same with the election. Like there are real feelings, fears, outrages, and concerns about this stuff. Yet there’s a number of folks that always direct that to what it means for polls and votes. Meanwhile life is so much more than that.
------ “There is no fate that cannot be surmounted by scorn.” -Albert Camus
>Rather than people chiming in on what they think or feel about >something, they pontificate like pundits about what masses of >people will do in a period of time from now.
*nods furiously*
Very nicely put, sir. Sometimes our role in all of this is to see horrifying crimes (passive and active, in the case of the hysterectomy post) committed against our friends and neighbors and to say, loudly and often, that it's evil.
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legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79560 posts
Tue Sep-15-20 05:40 PM
20. "We’ve said he was evil for years" In response to Reply # 9
not really sure why we have to say it every time before discussing the impact of it all on the masses.
I know where I am tho... you have to condemn in every post or you are painted as an ally of the evil empire.
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
22. "But if we focus everything on the man we miss the actions" In response to Reply # 20
Like he’s so comic villain that we don’t even discuss the destructo ray. Every conversation is Trump is bad, some folks saying they didn’t expect it, then folks discussing that it doesn’t matter And like ... mass deaths matter.
------ “There is no fate that cannot be surmounted by scorn.” -Albert Camus
10. "A strain of Snyder's "Politics of Eternity"" In response to Reply # 7
Things will always be as they are (bad) so nothing really matters.
It is largely a cover for people's passivity, an opportunity to remain disengaged because there is no sense in doing anything if nothing will change (because nothing ever changes).
We see it all the time on this site "Both sides are the same," "This doesn't won't/matter," "Americans/Whites were always like this and will always be like this," etc.
It is often done with complete disregard for things like actual data, history, policy, etc.
The flip side is "The Politics of Inevitablity" in which things will always sort themselves out and in the end and tend toward freedom/democracy etc.
Both lure people into either a false sense of security/insecurity and passivity because they take outcomes as predetermined and remove responsibility from individuals for acting during their moment in history.
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A lot of you players ain't okay.
We would have been better off with an okaycivics board instead of an okayactivist board
13. "It's weird that we still talk about him 'winning an election'" In response to Reply # 11
Although he/his accomplices have no interest in actually winning an election.
He just wants to steal an election.
That's why a president whose approval rating is under water doesn't give a shit about improving it. This is why he only plays to his base but never works on expanding it. It's why he's declared all methods democractic practices (mail-in voting, ballot drop-off boxes, etc) as methods of cheating, and have already declared any result other than him winning as something he will not recognize. It's why the RNC is spending 20 million dollars to send people to intimidate people at the polls and why Trump and people like Caputo are encouraging their followers to prepare to be violent should they lose (and even if they win).
These aren't the tactics of people worried about 'winning an election' these are the tactics of someone engaged in stealing one.
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A lot of you players ain't okay.
We would have been better off with an okaycivics board instead of an okayactivist board
15. "Joe Biden should take a page from Trumps playbook and HAMMER this" In response to Reply # 4
point and quote RELENTLESSLY. any statement about trump should include his referring to covid as the plague. hold a new press conference and make a new commercial immediately. keeping it at the absolute forefront will have the most impact.
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