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makaveli
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"The Social Dilemma on Netflix "


  

          

Documentary on Social media, definitely worth watching.

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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Subject Author Message Date ID
I havent seen it yet
Sep 10th 2020
1
I only have Instagram and Twitter
Sep 10th 2020
2
      LOL I quit Facebook for 2 months before quarantine ...
Sep 10th 2020
3
      i find Twitter more way toxic than FB
Sep 10th 2020
4
      did you watch the documentary?
Sep 11th 2020
9
      nope, not yet
Sep 11th 2020
12
      I can definitely see how twitter would be worse
Sep 11th 2020
14
           twitter just feels the enemy of real conversation
Sep 11th 2020
23
      i still have the social accounts
Sep 10th 2020
5
      quitting Twitter has literally improved my health
Sep 10th 2020
6
           I Believe you and I’m glad you’re feeling better
Sep 11th 2020
18
           that's good, however
Sep 12th 2020
25
This was a good documentary.
Sep 11th 2020
7
Is that the companies fault or our fault as users?
Sep 11th 2020
8
      framing it as "fault" is the wrong question.
Sep 11th 2020
10
      Yeah.. I wasn’t asking you tho.
Sep 12th 2020
26
      its just a platform. we make it suck or rock
Sep 11th 2020
11
           did you watch it?
Sep 11th 2020
16
                I tried last night but I fell asleep.
Sep 12th 2020
24
this documentary was so convenient and ahistorical
Sep 11th 2020
13
I think you’re missing the point
Sep 11th 2020
15
      Definitely didn't watch it
Sep 11th 2020
17
      Pfft.
Sep 11th 2020
21
      yes, i typed that reply after the credits rolled.
Sep 11th 2020
20
that was pretty depressing lol
Sep 11th 2020
19
dude talking about getting off work and ignoring his kids was wild
Sep 11th 2020
22
One of the quotes from the doc is that, this affects everyone even if
Sep 12th 2020
27
I couldn't handle how corny the dramatic scenes were
Sep 14th 2020
28
I died at the "facebook" app notification
Sep 14th 2020
30
lol reminded me of those mandatory videos we have to watch for work
Sep 14th 2020
31
this white lady on twitter frying them
Sep 14th 2020
29
In summation
Sep 14th 2020
32

sectachrome86
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1. "I havent seen it yet"
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but my Dad said he deleted all his accounts after watching it lol.

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makaveli
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2. "I only have Instagram and Twitter "
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I deleted Facebook a few years ago. I may delete my Instagram, Twitter is my worst addiction, I may wait until after the election to delete it but I will. I stopped using it for about two months when the quarantine began, then when I started again I was all in immediately.

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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Brew
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3. "LOL I quit Facebook for 2 months before quarantine ..."
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... jumped back in when quarantine started and we were reminded that 45 dismantled the Pandemic Response Team so I could remind all my conservative Facebook friends how inept their hero was. Been on a daily rampage ever since.

But I, like you, quit Twitter for 2 (actually probably more like 3) months when quarantine started as well haha. Basically traded Twitter for Facebook.


>I deleted Facebook a few years ago. I may delete my
>Instagram, Twitter is my worst addiction, I may wait until
>after the election to delete it but I will. I stopped using
>it for about two months when the quarantine began, then when I
>started again I was all in immediately.

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Mynoriti
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4. "i find Twitter more way toxic than FB "
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FB for all its flaws is is useful to keep in contact with certain people. I def had to clean out some riff raff though. it can be fun and pleasant for the right people.

Twitter can be a blast but it's way too dogpilish and overly tribal for my taste. I feel like it brings out the worst in people. It's a lot of "If you think X, you're a piece of shit", and i sometimes find myself falling into that mindset. I generally make a conscious effort not to come at someone online in a way i wouldn't if they were standing in front of me. Twitter is the only place where i'll really feel myself losing that.

Instagram is probably my favorite, I have it kind of set up where i barely see anything political. It's a nice break. I really enjoy it.

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Damali
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9. "did you watch the documentary?"
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Mynoriti
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12. "nope, not yet"
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makaveli
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14. "I can definitely see how twitter would be worse"
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The thing is, there is valuable information on there, but overall it’s just not healthy. I was definitely feeling better when I stopped using it.

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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23. "twitter just feels the enemy of real conversation"
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I can't imagine being even a low level celebrity and sharing an opinion that slightly veers from the crowd. Not to say you *can't* but it doesn't seem worth it. it's like you either have to virtue signal, or go full dirtbag.

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luminous
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5. "i still have the social accounts"
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but i had to turn off all phone and email notifications. i also had to uninstall facebook from my phone because it was using an alarming amount of data.

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6. "quitting Twitter has literally improved my health"
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Twitter has zero redeeming value. It's a worthless echo chamber. Just non-stop doomscrolling. I literally sleep better and have lower blood pressure after deleting it. I got rid of Facebook a long time ago, but at least with FB, you occasionally get an innocent glimpse of your family's lives. Twitter is pure, uncut garbage.

  

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makaveli
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18. "I Believe you and I’m glad you’re feeling better"
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Fri Sep-11-20 01:40 PM by makaveli

  

          

Twitter is crazy. I want to stay informed but just too much. One thing I love about Twitter is I’ve gotten so many great book suggestions, but it’s just not worth it overall.

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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Damali
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25. "that's good, however"
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>Twitter has zero redeeming value. It's a worthless echo
>chamber.

This isnt true. Like anything, you make it what you need it to be. It's very helpful for job searching in the writing field, i got hipped to really informative and helpful podcasts, and it keeps me connected to advocacy initiatives that are important to me.

Just non-stop doomscrolling.

i don't follow those kinds of accounts. Only ones i can learn from.

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kwez
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7. "This was a good documentary."
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Fri Sep-11-20 06:04 AM by kwez

  

          

It's clear these platforms are able to subliminally alter our psyches.

Makes you wonder what would happen if these companies ever decided to forcefully target positivity.

  

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8. "Is that the companies fault or our fault as users? "
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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10. "framing it as "fault" is the wrong question."
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did you watch the documentary?

  

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26. "Yeah.. I wasn’t asking you tho. "
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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BrooklynWHAT
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11. "its just a platform. we make it suck or rock"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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makaveli
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16. "did you watch it?"
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“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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BrooklynWHAT
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24. "I tried last night but I fell asleep."
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I’ll prob watch it tomorrow since week 1 nfl is gonna be rough and boring

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Brotha Sun
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13. "this documentary was so convenient and ahistorical "
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Yes yes its social media thats the problem, not predatory marketers and software developers, not capitalism itself for allowing an attention-economy like this to exist.


"They used to call me Baby Luke....but now? The whole damn 2 Liiiive Crew."

  

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makaveli
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15. "I think you’re missing the point"
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Did you watch it? The documentary does take about capitalism.

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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17. "Definitely didn't watch it"
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Fri Sep-11-20 12:33 PM by luminous

  

          

Opening statement is about how the decisions of 50 software developers can influence the behavior of billions of people.

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Brotha Sun
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21. "Pfft."
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"They used to call me Baby Luke....but now? The whole damn 2 Liiiive Crew."

  

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20. "yes, i typed that reply after the credits rolled. "
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Marketers interfering with politics and america using psyops to manipulate foreign governments existed long before social media. social media just made it easier for them to do, but its always been a thing. the duality of the internet age is more people are privy to this information.

what was missed in the documentary is that misinformation is so easily believed because our country has a record of blatantly lying about things. This distrust in the media doesnt exist in a vacuum. The Dreadloc white guy said people are radicalized because they're "isolated and cant have civil conversations with each other," which is hella ahistorical. America has a history of "radicalism" it refuses to reckon with and the people will perpetuate that with or without an algorithm.


i think the concept of regulating and fact cheking the political content thats posted on major sites would be dope. Not sure how that would be enforced without backlash tho. we can't even get people to wear masks.

"They used to call me Baby Luke....but now? The whole damn 2 Liiiive Crew."

  

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19. "that was pretty depressing lol"
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I've listened to a couple podcast interviews with tristan Harris. This didn't change my views on my own personal use of social media, or make me feel differently about respective platforms but it's a good breakdown about how currently and potentially catastrophic this all is collectively.

simultaneous utopia/dystopia was a good way to describe it.

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Brotha Sun
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22. "dude talking about getting off work and ignoring his kids was wild"
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like damn not even the people that analyze and develop the software are immune to it.

"They used to call me Baby Luke....but now? The whole damn 2 Liiiive Crew."

  

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SuiteLady
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27. "One of the quotes from the doc is that, this affects everyone even if"
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you don't use the product. That is so true!

Another thing that is worth noting is that these developers did not set out to be evil.

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28. "I couldn't handle how corny the dramatic scenes were"
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I turned it off in like 20 minutes

  

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30. "I died at the "facebook" app notification"
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"Your ex-girlfriend is in a new relationship"

The younger daughter smashing the glass thing 30 seconds after getting her phone locked in there was over the top too.

  

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31. "lol reminded me of those mandatory videos we have to watch for work"
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Brotha Sun
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29. "this white lady on twitter frying them"
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https://twitter.com/_lizharvey/status/1305230234900459525?s=20


"They used to call me Baby Luke....but now? The whole damn 2 Liiiive Crew."

  

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32. "In summation"
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A bunch of presumably financially stable people saying, "here's what we did, here's why and how we did it and why are they doing this to us?"

I have a 400 year old chip on my shoulder.

  

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