The Milwaukee Bucks have yet to come out to the court for Game 5 on Wednesday with the Orlando Magic and there's been some discussion within the Bucks about a boycott.
NBA officials have gone into the Milwaukee locker room, sources told ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski and Malika Andrews.
Tipoff for the game in Lake Buena Vista, Florida, was set for 4 p.m. ET.
The Magic were seen taking shots pregame, while the Bucks' half of the court was empty. The Magic left the court with 3:56 left until the scheduled tip.
Top NBA executives were outside of the Milwaukee locker room, but haven't gone inside, a source told ESPN.
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79605 posts
Wed Aug-26-20 03:51 PM
3. "That’s major. Celtics and Raptors are also talking about a boycott" In response to Reply # 0
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
9. "I'd love to see college football players do it..." In response to Reply # 5
Folks would absolutely lose their minds. I'd like to think that if the players hit enough of the right people in their pockets, then some folks would sit up straight & pay attention.
24. "I think we'd be asking a bit much of them to end it" In response to Reply # 19
This shit is gonna take all of us to fight and they're bearing their responsibility, but if the rest of us aren't willing to give everything up then they shouldn't either.
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79605 posts
Wed Aug-26-20 05:47 PM
21. "Proud of these teams taking a stand. " In response to Reply # 0
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
27. "Tucker Carlson is a pile of dogg shit." In response to Reply # 0
I very rarely pay attention to this freak because he's not worth any thinking person's time, but he deserves to be blown the fuck up literally and figuratively over this:
28. "solidarity. huge respect. " In response to Reply # 0
love seeing this described as what it is: a *strike*
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legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79605 posts
Thu Aug-27-20 08:55 AM
36. "People are asking what impact these boycotts/strikes are having" In response to Reply # 0
Which is odd because they are talking about the boycotts...
Seems pretty obvious to me but it’s hilarious how they can’t even see the impact.
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79605 posts
Thu Aug-27-20 11:15 AM
39. "I wonder what changed? " In response to Reply # 38
Owners play hardball?
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
40. "i think it was a valiant but rash decision out the gate." In response to Reply # 39
not saying rash negatively. but it was just abrupt.
the bucks made a decision and the rest of the teams just quickly felt pressured to follow suit. the magic was even on the court warming up and ready to play before the bucks decided to stay in the locker room.
so it wasnt necessarily a unified gesture that everyone decided on.
43. "Yea it was essentially a wildcat strike by the Bucks." In response to Reply # 40 Thu Aug-27-20 11:36 AM by Brew
And same as you that's not a criticism. I respect the hell out of them for making that decision, and was glad to see the rest of the league follow suit.
I don't know whether or not they're making the "right" decision regarding resuming play. Seems like a lot of the more "active" players in terms of activism were seriously conflicted. I read reports that LeBron was mostly silent when it became clear that the players would be voting to resume play. Sounds like he was in favor of calling off the season, which is a huge revelation. He's been working on some great things in the leadup to the election, and this leads me to believe he wanted to be more active in the protests too. Which, considering the impact cancelling the season would have on his legacy (he's obviously got a good chance at another chip this season), that says a lot about where he stands with everything.
I also read that Jaylen Brown asked the players that if they cancelled the season, would they just go home and chill, or would they actually use that time to take to the streets and get in the trenches with the people ? I'm sure that impacted some players' decisions.
I can imagine how messy it would have gotten if other teams decided to play yesterday.
>not saying rash negatively. but it was just abrupt. > >the bucks made a decision and the rest of the teams just >quickly felt pressured to follow suit. the magic was even on >the court warming up and ready to play before the bucks >decided to stay in the locker room. > >so it wasnt necessarily a unified gesture that everyone >decided on.
64. "i mean, real change is gonna take real sacrifice..." In response to Reply # 59
like, them taking that pay cut.
i guess what i mean is i can't judge them for not doing it.
especially now. because not every player is LeBron who doesn't really actually "need" their basketball salary. some do.
so until they are more organized they probably can't make that real sacrifice.
check out today's episode of the Higher Learning podcast because they elaborated on it much better than i'm trying to do but they compared it to the Bus Boycott and how this is different but what it might take for this to be like that in its execution.
44. "This wasn't planned very well" In response to Reply # 38
Which is understandable. Cats are angry, frustrated & very emotional. They absolutely put the issue into the spotlight and I applaud them for that. They have a huge platform and a lot of people paid attention to what they were feeling.
But they should have kept a play stoppage in their back pockets. Now, everyone knows that they won't really disrupt the season. That leverage is gone.
My thoughts aren't fully formed here cuz I'm conflicted but
The players have the power- moreso than any other league. Its star driven.
Shit, there's probably enough money and interest they could start their own league.
Look at the bubble format. Invest/pool their money to cop one facility, and set up a league owned by the players. Get their own sponsors. Copy the bubble format to minimize expenses. Etc.
The players don't need the league. They don't need owners who donate to LAPD, etc. The league needs the players.
Why cave after a day?
I *do* think it was rushed, and they could have clarified what they wanted to come out of it, but they should have stayed strong.
Now it just looks like they didn't want to lose money. Which I get, but the optics on that? The conversation just changed from why they went on strike to why they gave up. So the benefit is minimized a ton.
Which brings me to just how poisoned beyond anything resembling repair America is.
I see talks of general strikes and stuff from leftists, but NBA players can't strike for more than a day? How we going to ask each other to strike, workers at wal-mart to strike, etc...when folks are in here saying Chris Paul shouldn't risk his millions?
And of course, theres typical Amerikkka responses like "they should donate HALF their salary!" !??
Players strike for social justice and are the villains to some. On the other hand, they could only last a day cuz they couldn't leave money on the table.
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79605 posts
Thu Aug-27-20 02:24 PM
53. "Yeah.. I’m conflicted on this" In response to Reply # 48
I get the anger.. I get the boycott and it being a bit rushed.
but it definitely opens the floodgates for a ton of excuses for why it wasn’t a good move or a hollow statement.
I almost wished it would’ve just been Milwaukee teams but I’m not mad at them for trying to take a stand.
One of the reporters said a player asked some of the players who wanted to cancel the season if they were going home to their families or going I the trenches to continue to fight.
I guess the real question is where are professional athletes place on this fight? Where do they serve us best as advocates for change? Hopefully they continue to put pressure on big business.
I heard Lebron walked out after challenging owners to do more.
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
57. "they changed the convo one day later and ruined their message imo" In response to Reply # 53
The biggest benefit/impact the strike had was it got people talking.
Now the convo has changed. So the benefits of a rushed strike are all but erased.
And players who looked like heroes, are now villains or whatever.
And again, lets say Trump doesn't leave office or some shit...the only real thing people can do is a general strike...how can we ask someone with zero savings to strike when these dudes couldn't last more than a day?
>I get the anger.. I get the boycott and it being a bit >rushed. > >but it definitely opens the floodgates for a ton of excuses >for why it wasn’t a good move or a hollow statement. > >I almost wished it would’ve just been Milwaukee teams but >I’m not mad at them for trying to take a stand. > >One of the reporters said a player asked some of the players >who wanted to cancel the season if they were going home to >their families or going I the trenches to continue to fight.
Thats fair but it also misses a big point-
There are a lot entitled white nba fans who essentially demand to be entertained. From outright racists to "shut up and dribble" to "aw man why does everything have to be political?" dudes.
Those guys should have been denied their fucking hoops, man. Straight up.
No changing racist minds...but shaking up the apathetic, more low key racist ones?
And hurt some pockets in the process? Owners, sponsors, etc?
> >I heard Lebron walked out after challenging owners to do more. >
I don't know dude's name on NBATV...that why guy with the hair, the main host...homeboy seemed outright irritated at the strike.
Pointing to $400 million and Black Lives Matter branding like "what else do they want?"
So yeah, more from the owners. And the sponsors, and the NBA media, and the fans, and everyone.
Like I said, they should legit pool their money and start their own league.
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all are in blue areas. easy to locate. the size makes it easier to address covid social distancing issues. most likely have a bigger staffing pool to get poll workers from and avoid shortages (especially since this gets major news coverage).
69. "Given that each state" In response to Reply # 67
and sometimes even within each state, different cities have their own separate Electoral Boards with different rules, I can't imagine this will be an easy task to accomplish.
I hope all goes well in all the cities this will go down in.
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70. "I was thinking about that too..." In response to Reply # 69
>and sometimes even within each state, different cities have >their own separate Electoral Boards with different rules, I >can't imagine this will be an easy task to accomplish. > >I hope all goes well in all the cities this will go down in.
71. "what im learning from the run up to this election is that counties" In response to Reply # 69
have a good bit of leeway as to how they conduct their elections.
like some counties are mailing out absentee ballot applications to every registered voter in the county, some counties have different voting equipment, different voting hours, different early voting periods, etc.
i dont think theres gonna be much issue here but its not above republicans to try/sue.
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Amid a work stoppage that forced the NBA to postpone the playoffs until Saturday, Los Angeles Lakers star LeBron James and a group of players reportedly sought advice from former President Barack Obama on how to proceed with their protest.
According to Shams Charania of The Athletic and Stadium, Obama advised James, Chris Paul and others to resume playing in an effort to further their message against systemic racism during a Wednesday call. That followed a contentious meeting among players inside the NBA bubble during which James, the Lakers and the Los Angeles Clippers voted to end the season following the police shooting of Jacob Blake in Kenosha, Wisconsin on Sunday.
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